Thanks misha for this splendid drive. Hi everyone its owner here. Its does have a oil cooler and big radiator. car has no problem running donington silverstone even SPA. all we mention on the clip was the oil temp.
Was so stoked to finally see Misha drive a VA. As a VA STI owner myself, I'm so envious and wish I could have the ride of my life like you did with and incredibly talented driver making the most of my car. We'll, I got the next best thing and I'll be Savinng this video and I'll be watching it over and over again on my TV at home. How is your car after rubbing so hot for so long? Did you have a baffled oil pan as well? What turbo are you running with your fmic? Was this run done on E85?
@@stansuarez it full stock engine and turbo have a service after this run and everything was fine. It’s a bit difficult to find e85 in Europe however the gas in Germany runs a high rate so everything was good
It’s crazy how many cars can’t cope with a full lap without overheating or the brakes fading like crazy . Kinda makes all the endurance cars so much more impressive
Because most people only invest in the cheapest way to impress friends, they dont know how their cars will behave in real racing conditions, which is overheating and melting. If you increase power, you need to improve braking and cooling, period. If you don't do it this will happen.
@@ALIENdrifter66not necessarily my tuned Saab Viggen doesn’t overheat as badly as my friends GR86 when we run on our local roads and his car is stock and mine is tuned
Stock cars absolutely can and do overheat if they are not designed to be driven this way (which many are not). There is no point to install oversized radiators and overpowered cooling systems if they will never be seen under design operating conditions and would be a waste of resources and money. Sometimes cars are adapted from the factory for local conditions in the target market (e.g. climate).
You need to take into consideration that Nurburgring is very long and has some proper elevation changes. I bet this Subaru can do like 3 laps on a average 2-3 km long, flat racetrack with ease. And after cooling lap you will be able to do this again.
Ähm, okay. Hat der Subaru nicht angeblich 390 Ps, oder waren es 319. Und selbst dann... 300 ps sind viel :D Oder bedeutet a ton of hp 1000 ps... Have a nice day or whatever. Sorry for the german
I would think the front mounted intercooler would have something to do with it. Big impact or not on daily driving, when driving for a long period of time on track that difference could be exponentially greater.
@@AntilleanConfederation front mount intercooler are placed in front of the radiator, meaning the cool air goes towards bigger power than actually cooling down your car. The hood scoop can’t help with cooling because the radiator is still in the front. A WRX/STI with a front mount intercooler essentially becomes a badly designed Evo, the hood scoop then just becomes a source of bad aero increasing the CD.
I owned a 17 STI for 6 years and it was built and driving was a lot of fun but my eyes were always on the coolant temp and as soon as I saw it go Up my heart dropped from PTSD hahaha
My temps on my VA also inches up on hill climbs even if I have the koyo rad and perrin oil cooler but it never gets *that* hot and the temps drop quickly as soon as I let off a little. Having said that. I also hyperventilate as soon as the temp needle starts moving. Hahaha
@@stansuarezthe Perrin Oil cooler suffers behind the FMIC. I actually placed mine on top of the FMIC and routed the lines differently. Zero issues with the oil getting too hot or even the coolant temps sky rocketing.
Definitely because the sensor is only reading 240, must be slightly hotter in hotter parts of the block and ESPECIALLY on the EJ's where it naturally runs hotter in some parts. That coolant evaporated and most definitely fucked up the headgasket, I hope he had full compression test and everything done right after
@@ohnaw223 I think in the video it is around 245, if it to the max left it will be 250, that niddle will start moving at 230, I track my VA as well, I will never let it over 230
@@ohnaw223 never mind I see the owner say the coolant is 126c which is 258f, that means oil temp is at 270 probably 300, that motor fucked up for sure, no matter it is a built motor or OEM one, headgasket and bearing is failing for sure
As a Subaru owner and enthousiast always fun to see one on the channel. The emotion of the boxer engine is something special. I’m going to try to get you into your old car this year. It’s under construction at the moment, so that it is ready to go closest to it was back in the day. I just want it to be perfect, so it would not disappoint. Really afraid of that happening, so trying my best to make it as good as I can afford.
I’d like to see the fallow up with this guy and see if his piston ringlands got damaged and or second rings overheated and lose tension. Needs an oil cooler for sure, the oil gets hot and can’t cool off.
@@siraff4461that's one reason I decided to stay with the top mount on my VA. I do get less WHP at 365whp on pump Gas but at least my Koyo Rad gets better airflow.
@@stansuarez Yeah cooling gets a big issue as you go for more power and a lot of people just go for the power without considering its implications on everything else. I would take ~30hp less reliably all day over an extra bit of peak that you can't really use for fear of cooking something. Lets be honest - 365 wheel is still a lot of power and more than enough to be great fun. My old Impreza (GC8) was only just over 300 wheel but it had the right mods and I could just beat on it all day until the tank went dry then beat on it again. Fun fact - the best mod I did to that car was the gearbox and diffs from an RA. It revved hard at high speed but I never took it on long runs anyway and it was a much better drive when caning it. Short/close gearing really works on them.
Each shift was way off.. trail breaking and heel toe is basic. Far from playing the piano, but he knows the track very very well. In his own car I'm sure he's much more smooth
I heard the issue with subaru engines is mostly because of emissions! (Making pistons prone to melting and fragile because of piston ring placement which is too high).
@@wanderer7779 yea we're lucky we even got turbo ejs in the US because they had to be heavily restricted for our emission laws, and it only got worse over time so reliability took a hit. JDM turbo ejs are highly regarded because they could actually breathe and make power
Mutkurve was pretty understeary but it was also a little fast 😄. lovely car 🔥🔥
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I would ask you to start telling people not to use their phones even when not driving but I won't so I'll try to do it. I am sure it annoys you too and it is becoming a scary mindless trend. Three great reasons just to name a few: 1. You need reaction time in case of a crash, slide or heavy braking 2. Your phone can bounce out of your hands and you can actually hit or block the driver 3. You need your hands when the sh.t hits the fun Enjoy the drive, Misha got you covered from all angles!
In this case the owner had telemetry on his phone. And he was monitoring it because car got too hot. If temp continued to rise he would tell Misha to calm down and cool the car. So it was almost cooked engine)))
This is a first generation WRX STI and ironically the last generation of STI. First ever WRX that was not an Impreza, and it’s currently in its second generation as the VB WRX.
@6:45 it was then, that he knew, his engine was F-Ed..... I could smell the coolant through the screen. Then a minute later I'm guessing the car kicked itself into a different mode (Sport Sharp to Sport?) to try to prevent further damage..
I do cringe a bit in the manuals when he slams gears flat without finding the biting point properly, could be done a little more gentle at first as your brain learns the points as by 3rd 4th corner it’s fine but out of those cones it’s rough as toast every time😢
I have a 2015 VA WRX from Australia, car has now done 130,000km and still runs smoothly. Car is still in stock form (197kW/264hp and 350Nm) Sure it may not be the fastest sports car out there, but the power is sufficient enough to put a smile on your face and the way it handles is just brilliant, I can corner at high speeds and the car sticks to the ground like super glue, one of those cars with that oldschool raw feeling. I thought about upgrading to the VB but the differences didn’t really warrant $60,000 AUD which is about $40,000 USD. I believe the VA looks better and the minimal increase in power (3hp) and the slightly better torque curve (although it’s still rated at 350Nm) doesn’t really justify that huge price tag.
Good choice to stick to the VA. I made the same decision. Sticking with mine too. Just rebuild that engine properly when the time comes and tune it to around 400whp and it should give you another 200k km
Oh, a cameo 😅😅 thx for tagging Misha ❤ And as always cool video. Interesting for me to see how other EJ257 equipped cars behave 😅 Man this one got pretty hot, temps got up way before Bergwerk 😮 Sometimes somehow these cars survive this 🤷♂️😅
Looks like that beeping noise in the end of the video is coming from gauges which is in central console. It signaling the limit which could be preselected manually. It could be warning about low pressure of oil, or high temperature of exhaust gases. I hope it was not low pressure, which is a nightmare for all Subaru owners around the world :-) Thank you for exciting video!
I wonder why Subaru (and many others) ignores cooling. I saw Best Motoring International, where one episode was focused on cooling and results were really bad. It was before year 2000, yet more than 20 years later they still dont give a damn about it.
They probably didnt design a car to have 400 bhp and most people dont drive this hard for so long as you cant on the road and the engines are not designed for being 2.5 liters also which dont help with it staying together
@@Craiggg12345 It's solid! I'll do my best to list mine: Alum rad, High flow water pump housing, Cylinder 4 cooling mod, AOS also (not really a cooling mod), and silicone hoses with Turbosmart Murray Clamps. That's engine, I also have a power steering cooler for the steering rack, ETS top mount (less heat soak, but still awful after sitting in traffic), and I am probably forgetting some stuff. But keep those temps happy and proper maintenance for a happy EJ.
@@ozzysgarageyeah I have an ets TMIC, cylinder 4 cooling mod, VSC hoses but the bare metal for the killer b headers and Cobb up pipe generate so much heat so summer sucks. I was gonna get the Killer B high flow water pump but a waste for a daily.
Nice video, miss the STI, it’s sad Subaru discontinued STI and now build new wrx on SUV forester chassis and SUV open front diff and open rear diff. They need to bring back STI with that nice front LSD, center DCCD diff, and rear LSD.
This car was my dream, but It was impossible to get well maintanced car with some not the highest mileage and at a reasonable price. So I took Giulia instead.
I hope he pays them or something for abusing their cars, every time i see this guys videos….which i love, he’s always driving the car so hard 😂 and the owners are always terrified
Glad to see the VA chassis on here. My dad has both the VA U.S. Spec 2016 WRX and a 2020 STI. I might be a Honda fan, but I do love the Subie platform as well 😁
This engine needs all the cooling mods, but once you're there it's good to go. I'd like to see Misha race my car down that track (750bhp fastest stock location turbo in the world).
Just imagine being Subaru. You are owned by Toyota, a Company that is famous for Cars that will outlive their Owners and you still manage to build unreliable cars.
Being owned by Toyota is irrelevant. Subaru still manufactures their own cars. And calling them unreliable is also stereotypical. It’s always the people who (i) have never owned a Subaru or (ii) have done stupid mods on their Subaru WRX/sti like putting intake exhaust crank up the boost with no proper ecu tuning that are calling these cars unreliable. I have owned a 02 WRX with stage 3 mods and a 2012 sti with stage 2 mods and tracked them both many many times without issues. The sti did get a little hot because of a sh*tty aftermarket radiator but I don’t blame the car. People nowadays are so quick to blame the car the brand and others but never themselves.
@@Kichoman1983 No reason to defend your beloved Carbrand. But the latest example probably is the BRZ. With its oil starvation in right hand corners, it’s RTV issue. Other Subarus have common issues with head gaskets and transmissions. Subarus are great cars, Ferraris are also great cars, but I wouldn’t call either of them reliable. They are still great though.
@@Rouven_K Never had any Ferrari so can’t speak for them. I agree no car / car brand is bulletproof. All I want to do is share my personal experience on cars that I have actually owned and not basing my argument on hearsay. My Lotus Exige V6 had a Toyota engine and everyone just assumes it is reliable. Well guess what, the car has given me more issues (not engine related) in 2 years than the 20 years combined on my Subaru ownership. I still absolutely loved it though. So it’s not so simple as journalists and social media would have people believe. As for the new BRZ, I have one in the family and it just did two track days back to back with no issue. Another friend tracked his stock power one multiple times already and no issues. More track days to come so we shall see. The key for me is proper maintenance and track preparation. That means, among other things, oil change with good oil (not some cheap stuff that you can buy at your gas station) before and right after EACH track event. I would be delusional if I expect any cars that I beat on the track to be hassle free in the long run. Gotta pay to play, period.
7:50 kind of a joke of a high temp warning, just a message for a second? no red light on dash? the temp needle which has literally 2mm of travel between normal and hot.. wow.
Great car and video ! Gonna bring you mine next year (hopefully) which has every reliability mods + chassis renforcement and brakes upgrade ! Just want to put Sportster CSs in !
I’ve taken my VA STI on the ring with the stock intercooler and even then I had pretty high temperatures. After installing my FMIC my oil temperature alone is now 20-25f higher. I can only imagine if I go back again with my current set up lol.
@@Craiggg12345 I could only imagine so since the core size for my FMIC is 4.5 inches. I installed my FMIC just when winter started so I will have to gauge it when it’s summer, since that’s when I went to the ring.
@@gotboost1183 FMIC will significant'y increase coolant temps. I'll take higher intake temps and slightly reduced power than high coolant temps which = no more lapping.
7:12 gas pedal to the metal, while car is almost not accelerating. Limp mode. Coolant overheated, oil pressure warning. This engine is TOASTED. Only question to Misha: why you kept driving it, while seeing all warnings?
Dare I say that a sorted suspension, tires and a nice set of brakes without too much power make an STI a bit boring? Another 100hp and this thing would've been a blast I bet.
Hey I'm just thinking an extra 100hp from one of these is also making a lot more heat 😉 keep it were it is and giving it better cooling that would of made Misha's lap alot quicker if he didn't have to nanny the temp gauge
Heat has many issues with this platform not just eventually expelling your coolant from the system and seizing the engine or if your lucky doing a Head gasket You also run a risk of pre detonation with the increased and unstable cylinder temps wich can mean bye bye ring lands :)
i need to get there one day just for that section before the mini carousel alone . great lap you just cant beat driving a subaru they just have a vibe . the owner seems like a lovely guy .
Thanks misha for this splendid drive. Hi everyone its owner here. Its does have a oil cooler and big radiator. car has no problem running donington silverstone even SPA. all we mention on the clip was the oil temp.
Was so stoked to finally see Misha drive a VA. As a VA STI owner myself, I'm so envious and wish I could have the ride of my life like you did with and incredibly talented driver making the most of my car. We'll, I got the next best thing and I'll be Savinng this video and I'll be watching it over and over again on my TV at home.
How is your car after rubbing so hot for so long? Did you have a baffled oil pan as well?
What turbo are you running with your fmic? Was this run done on E85?
Love to see a fellow HKer on this channel!
@@stansuarez it full stock engine and turbo have a service after this run and everything was fine. It’s a bit difficult to find e85 in Europe however the gas in Germany runs a high rate so everything was good
Great car mate, enjoy it in good health.
@@stanleylam2159beautiful car mate. It's just like mine 😅
As a fellow Subaru owner, the coolant temperature needle had me sweating. But the car seemed really planted and power seemed just right.
same. That was unreasonably hot, these engines risk detonation WAYY too much to be running that hot at high rpms and etc.
def needs an Oil cooler and better rad
well nvm it has an oil cooler damn
Yeah me too, is 136C really still safe to drive? My piston melted at 130…
@@henrym5889 first thing I did on a 98 wrx sti before tracking it,RCM baffled sump and pickup,money well spent.
It’s crazy how many cars can’t cope with a full lap without overheating or the brakes fading like crazy . Kinda makes all the endurance cars so much more impressive
Because most people only invest in the cheapest way to impress friends, they dont know how their cars will behave in real racing conditions, which is overheating and melting. If you increase power, you need to improve braking and cooling, period. If you don't do it this will happen.
Stock cars can handle it, but most modified cars aren't modified for track use. Most people just add power, when that should be the last thing to do
@@ALIENdrifter66not necessarily my tuned Saab Viggen doesn’t overheat as badly as my friends GR86 when we run on our local roads and his car is stock and mine is tuned
Stock cars absolutely can and do overheat if they are not designed to be driven this way (which many are not). There is no point to install oversized radiators and overpowered cooling systems if they will never be seen under design operating conditions and would be a waste of resources and money. Sometimes cars are adapted from the factory for local conditions in the target market (e.g. climate).
You need to take into consideration that Nurburgring is very long and has some proper elevation changes. I bet this Subaru can do like 3 laps on a average 2-3 km long, flat racetrack with ease. And after cooling lap you will be able to do this again.
A great lap, filled with smiles and good vibe. The owner is a G😄
Don’t need a ton of hp to have fun! That boxer sound is pure magic
Ähm, okay. Hat der Subaru nicht angeblich 390 Ps, oder waren es 319. Und selbst dann... 300 ps sind viel :D
Oder bedeutet a ton of hp 1000 ps...
Have a nice day or whatever. Sorry for the german
@@SuperBubba01390 horsepower yes. and i think its a fast car for sure. I dont know what kind of missile mikey drives 🤔
@@user-mi8ie2kq4e currently building a ‘96 GC8 and “dailying” a ‘22 VB WRX. You could say I’m kinda bias 😅
Lol Until it goes boom like 99% of them.
@@mikey_gc8 ew a VB? Cringe. I have a 2015 STI and a fully built 09 STI with a rotated turbo set up
As a VA STI owner i also have looked for those videos and came up short. Thanks for letting Misha Rip it for us! that was awesome to see.
Woah! All the way from Hong Kong! That's properly unique!
The owner looks happy and scared 😅 great vid.
@@Tanuki974 really?
He was actually impressed at the corner speed
Thinking of his car blowing up 🤣
Id be scared too if I see temps go up like that. But with an incredibly talented driver at the wheel, I'd just hold tight and tell him to SEND IT! 😅
Always love the sounds that the STI makes 👌
this makes me so excited seeing my dream car on my favorite track and it brings me back when i played Forza Motersport 4
It runs HOT! Holy moly! Definitely need oil cooler & bigger radiator.
I would think the front mounted intercooler would have something to do with it. Big impact or not on daily driving, when driving for a long period of time on track that difference could be exponentially greater.
Has both owner mentioned it in comments
@@kunfupandaroflwhy would the front mount affect cooling negatively. It’s getting colder air
@@kunfupandaroflnvm. You saying the front mount is blocking air I assume. But there is cooling from the hood scoop.
@@AntilleanConfederation front mount intercooler are placed in front of the radiator, meaning the cool air goes towards bigger power than actually cooling down your car.
The hood scoop can’t help with cooling because the radiator is still in the front. A WRX/STI with a front mount intercooler essentially becomes a badly designed Evo, the hood scoop then just becomes a source of bad aero increasing the CD.
What a nice guy, and great mods on the car 🤌
I owned a 17 STI for 6 years and it was built and driving was a lot of fun but my eyes were always on the coolant temp and as soon as I saw it go Up my heart dropped from PTSD hahaha
My temps on my VA also inches up on hill climbs even if I have the koyo rad and perrin oil cooler but it never gets *that* hot and the temps drop quickly as soon as I let off a little.
Having said that. I also hyperventilate as soon as the temp needle starts moving. Hahaha
@@stansuarezthe Perrin Oil cooler suffers behind the FMIC. I actually placed mine on top of the FMIC and routed the lines differently. Zero issues with the oil getting too hot or even the coolant temps sky rocketing.
headgasket left the chat,240+ coolant temp will definitely do that
Definitely because the sensor is only reading 240, must be slightly hotter in hotter parts of the block and ESPECIALLY on the EJ's where it naturally runs hotter in some parts. That coolant evaporated and most definitely fucked up the headgasket, I hope he had full compression test and everything done right after
@@ohnaw223 I think in the video it is around 245, if it to the max left it will be 250, that niddle will start moving at 230, I track my VA as well, I will never let it over 230
@@ohnaw223 never mind I see the owner say the coolant is 126c which is 258f, that means oil temp is at 270 probably 300, that motor fucked up for sure, no matter it is a built motor or OEM one, headgasket and bearing is failing for sure
with coolant mods, are for example longer autobahn sessions possible or not
@@kiritowow2736lol
Misha you relentless bro 😂
Poor engine.
Good to finally see my car on the channel 😂
Is the engine okay?
nice 4014 shirt sir!
@@asm200sx nah it's cooked
@@asm200sx It runs fine for now
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That coolant temp - that engine is going to definitely need heavy maintenance session. 😬
Oil temp ...not coolant
As a Subaru owner and enthousiast always fun to see one on the channel. The emotion of the boxer engine is something special.
I’m going to try to get you into your old car this year. It’s under construction at the moment, so that it is ready to go closest to it was back in the day.
I just want it to be perfect, so it would not disappoint. Really afraid of that happening, so trying my best to make it as good as I can afford.
I’d like to see the fallow up with this guy and see if his piston ringlands got damaged and or second rings overheated and lose tension.
Needs an oil cooler for sure, the oil gets hot and can’t cool off.
I had a Subaru for 10 years
He already had an oil cooler apparently. Oof
He said big intercooler aswell. I bet its covering a big part of the radiator and the whole cooling balance is off.
@@siraff4461that's one reason I decided to stay with the top mount on my VA. I do get less WHP at 365whp on pump Gas but at least my Koyo Rad gets better airflow.
@@stansuarez Yeah cooling gets a big issue as you go for more power and a lot of people just go for the power without considering its implications on everything else.
I would take ~30hp less reliably all day over an extra bit of peak that you can't really use for fear of cooking something.
Lets be honest - 365 wheel is still a lot of power and more than enough to be great fun.
My old Impreza (GC8) was only just over 300 wheel but it had the right mods and I could just beat on it all day until the tank went dry then beat on it again.
Fun fact - the best mod I did to that car was the gearbox and diffs from an RA. It revved hard at high speed but I never took it on long runs anyway and it was a much better drive when caning it. Short/close gearing really works on them.
Misha looks like playing the piano with his foots...perfect coordination...
Each shift was way off.. trail breaking and heel toe is basic. Far from playing the piano, but he knows the track very very well. In his own car I'm sure he's much more smooth
I still hope to see GD version of a STI on this channel. 🙌
I drive the face lift VA currently in -20C degrees and rhe oil still reaches 110C degrees in city traffic 😅
Tip, if you want to drop engine temp quickly: turn on heating, and roll down the rear windows a bit. Works like a charm.
That does nothing for oil temp lol
Clown 🤡
Not on the ring fam
The amount of times uncle rod comes knocking inside a EJ is more times I'd like to recall
Ah the ever present 4th gear grind that plagues our subies 😅
Just noticed if you look at the fuel gauge from the beginning to the end it drops by almost a quarter 😄
145 mph in fox hole, wow
As a subaru mechanic, those head gaskets are now DEFINATELY done. Hope it was fun
I heard the issue with subaru engines is mostly because of emissions! (Making pistons prone to melting and fragile because of piston ring placement which is too high).
Not true at all for EJ257 didn’t have head gasket issues it had ringland issues your no Subaru tech your an imposter
Nope nth happened to the car and it made it though my whole Europe road trip
@@wanderer7779 yea we're lucky we even got turbo ejs in the US because they had to be heavily restricted for our emission laws, and it only got worse over time so reliability took a hit. JDM turbo ejs are highly regarded because they could actually breathe and make power
I'm not taking my Subie to you cuzc apparently you know nothing about them from your comment lul
Looked like a fun lap! Car hung on, just barely!
Handling seems very neutral and compliant. Very fine 👌👌
Mutkurve was pretty understeary but it was also a little fast 😄. lovely car 🔥🔥
I would ask you to start telling people not to use their phones even when not driving but I won't so I'll try to do it. I am sure it annoys you too and it is becoming a scary mindless trend. Three great reasons just to name a few:
1. You need reaction time in case of a crash, slide or heavy braking
2. Your phone can bounce out of your hands and you can actually hit or block the driver
3. You need your hands when the sh.t hits the fun
Enjoy the drive, Misha got you covered from all angles!
In this case the owner had telemetry on his phone. And he was monitoring it because car got too hot. If temp continued to rise he would tell Misha to calm down and cool the car. So it was almost cooked engine)))
This is a first generation WRX STI and ironically the last generation of STI. First ever WRX that was not an Impreza, and it’s currently in its second generation as the VB WRX.
@6:45 it was then, that he knew, his engine was F-Ed..... I could smell the coolant through the screen. Then a minute later I'm guessing the car kicked itself into a different mode (Sport Sharp to Sport?) to try to prevent further damage..
I love the big boi g meter. Amazin
S#モードだとアクセル全閉状態（完全に戻った状態）でクラッチ切らないと、エンジンがオーバーレブするし回転落ちも遅いんよね。踏んでるアクセル開度は5～10％程度でも実際のスロットル開度は30～50％程度になってる。
that dude just wanted to scream, Samir you are breaking the car!!!!
I do cringe a bit in the manuals when he slams gears flat without finding the biting point properly, could be done a little more gentle at first as your brain learns the points as by 3rd 4th corner it’s fine but out of those cones it’s rough as toast every time😢
@@AI-Records24I know!! Every single car. Let's make this boosted cars internals scream with load
@@gabemiller9873 sometimes it’s literally a bang too you can see the owners just cry inside 😢
I have a 2015 VA WRX from Australia, car has now done 130,000km and still runs smoothly.
Car is still in stock form (197kW/264hp and 350Nm)
Sure it may not be the fastest sports car out there, but the power is sufficient enough to put a smile on your face and the way it handles is just brilliant, I can corner at high speeds and the car sticks to the ground like super glue, one of those cars with that oldschool raw feeling.
I thought about upgrading to the VB but the differences didn’t really warrant $60,000 AUD which is about $40,000 USD.
I believe the VA looks better and the minimal increase in power (3hp) and the slightly better torque curve (although it’s still rated at 350Nm) doesn’t really justify that huge price tag.
It’s still too heavy, can’t compare to old school GC and GD
Good choice to stick to the VA. I made the same decision. Sticking with mine too. Just rebuild that engine properly when the time comes and tune it to around 400whp and it should give you another 200k km
Oh, a cameo 😅😅 thx for tagging Misha ❤
And as always cool video. Interesting for me to see how other EJ257 equipped cars behave 😅 Man this one got pretty hot, temps got up way before Bergwerk 😮 Sometimes somehow these cars survive this 🤷♂️😅
Looks like that beeping noise in the end of the video is coming from gauges which is in central console. It signaling the limit which could be preselected manually.
It could be warning about low pressure of oil, or high temperature of exhaust gases. I hope it was not low pressure, which is a nightmare for all Subaru owners around the world :-)
Thank you for exciting video!
I wonder why Subaru (and many others) ignores cooling. I saw Best Motoring International, where one episode was focused on cooling and results were really bad. It was before year 2000, yet more than 20 years later they still dont give a damn about it.
Well nwo will eliminate i.c.e very soon so won't have this issue
They probably didnt design a car to have 400 bhp and most people dont drive this hard for so long as you cant on the road and the engines are not designed for being 2.5 liters also which dont help with it staying together
Because at the end of the day, it's still a grocery getter from factory.
These cars and those darn temps!! I have so many mods just to keep a "reliable" EJ if that is even a thing 😭😭😭😭
I just have an AOS and radiator and equal headers for the bigger turbo. Thats kinda it.
@@Craiggg12345 It's solid! I'll do my best to list mine: Alum rad, High flow water pump housing, Cylinder 4 cooling mod, AOS also (not really a cooling mod), and silicone hoses with Turbosmart Murray Clamps. That's engine, I also have a power steering cooler for the steering rack, ETS top mount (less heat soak, but still awful after sitting in traffic), and I am probably forgetting some stuff. But keep those temps happy and proper maintenance for a happy EJ.
@@ozzysgarageyeah I have an ets TMIC, cylinder 4 cooling mod, VSC hoses but the bare metal for the killer b headers and Cobb up pipe generate so much heat so summer sucks. I was gonna get the Killer B high flow water pump but a waste for a daily.
damn that car rotates!! this is how you do subies!
The first thing you should get when you buy a Subaru is the name of your service advisor.
The traction is amazing 😮. And the boxer 4 sound is different. Like it. Thanks for sharing. 😊
Re71 is a killer tire
Glad the owner kept UELH on the car.
That thing was COOKING from a few minutes in 🥵
Nice video, miss the STI, it’s sad Subaru discontinued STI and now build new wrx on SUV forester chassis and SUV open front diff and open rear diff. They need to bring back STI with that nice front LSD, center DCCD diff, and rear LSD.
Thing started pulling timing when the temp was up, can see it struggling. Time for a koyorad radiator dude
Classic Subaru with temperature issue
This car was my dream, but It was impossible to get well maintanced car with some not the highest mileage and at a reasonable price. So I took Giulia instead.
It's a shame subaru stopped making STi. Now we only have ugly wrx and soon to be "hybrid" cars.
@@kevina.4036 indeed, it's like killing the legend...
You made the right choice. Sold my GR sti after 10 years.
Me just watching and listening to the rumble. those footwork are fire
Out of all the cars misha has driven the sti seems like the one he’s most confident with, thing has so much grip !!!
Would love to see a supercharged h6 legacy subie on the nurb . Subies hit just different for me
266deg F😅 I was nervous.
ole mate will be rebuilding this engine very soon.
For real dude
I hope he pays them or something for abusing their cars, every time i see this guys videos….which i love, he’s always driving the car so hard 😂 and the owners are always terrified
Since 2006, after years of “development” , subaru still uses the weak 2.5l EJ257 engine😅
Knock knock💥
2.5L in most other world
2.0L in Japan
Design wise, iirc EJ257 has semi-closed deck while EJ207 has open deck. 🤔🤔
This gen STI is not in production anymore. Current WRX uses fa24 turbo. STI will probably have it also.
@RDSAlphard all sti models are semi closed deck (except for gc8)
@@RDSAlphardfalse……
The EJ207 STI engine is a semi closed deck engine!
I would never want anyone to beat on my car at that temp ..... No respect to the owner im sorry misha
Glad to see the VA chassis on here. My dad has both the VA U.S. Spec 2016 WRX and a 2020 STI. I might be a Honda fan, but I do love the Subie platform as well 😁
Misha; Temp: 136
Phone; Press confirm
Car; goes flying,
Misha; Temps?
Passenger; I’ve deleted the app 😮
After Misha's lap best option is oil change😄especially after 130C
This engine needs all the cooling mods, but once you're there it's good to go. I'd like to see Misha race my car down that track (750bhp fastest stock location turbo in the world).
i like to see it
Are you sure it can handle oil/water temps produced on nur?? Better not embarass yourself;)
You better listen to moto iq mike
after my experience with the fa20 im so done with subarus
And that's one of the more reliable motors that they offer XD
The lap with P. Weber in the M2 was facking awsome 💪🏻🤘🏻
Misha is seriously living my life in Forza motorsport, but in the real world.
Bigger Rad and oil cooler if you are going to track lol temps were not ideal lol
Time to head over to RCM for a rebuild 😊
Just imagine being Subaru. You are owned by Toyota, a Company that is famous for Cars that will outlive their Owners and you still manage to build unreliable cars.
Being owned by Toyota is irrelevant. Subaru still manufactures their own cars. And calling them unreliable is also stereotypical. It’s always the people who (i) have never owned a Subaru or (ii) have done stupid mods on their Subaru WRX/sti like putting intake exhaust crank up the boost with no proper ecu tuning that are calling these cars unreliable. I have owned a 02 WRX with stage 3 mods and a 2012 sti with stage 2 mods and tracked them both many many times without issues. The sti did get a little hot because of a sh*tty aftermarket radiator but I don’t blame the car. People nowadays are so quick to blame the car the brand and others but never themselves.
@@Kichoman1983 No reason to defend your beloved Carbrand. But the latest example probably is the BRZ. With its oil starvation in right hand corners, it’s RTV issue. Other Subarus have common issues with head gaskets and transmissions. Subarus are great cars, Ferraris are also great cars, but I wouldn’t call either of them reliable. They are still great though.
@@Rouven_K Never had any Ferrari so can’t speak for them. I agree no car / car brand is bulletproof. All I want to do is share my personal experience on cars that I have actually owned and not basing my argument on hearsay. My Lotus Exige V6 had a Toyota engine and everyone just assumes it is reliable. Well guess what, the car has given me more issues (not engine related) in 2 years than the 20 years combined on my Subaru ownership. I still absolutely loved it though. So it’s not so simple as journalists and social media would have people believe. As for the new BRZ, I have one in the family and it just did two track days back to back with no issue. Another friend tracked his stock power one multiple times already and no issues. More track days to come so we shall see. The key for me is proper maintenance and track preparation. That means, among other things, oil change with good oil (not some cheap stuff that you can buy at your gas station) before and right after EACH track event. I would be delusional if I expect any cars that I beat on the track to be hassle free in the long run. Gotta pay to play, period.
That clutch is savage !
I wonder what that "wubwubwub" sound was when you're deep into 5th gear
Temps buried in the red Misha full throttle at 140mph uphill 😅 "Will it survive" lol
Wow really well set up! acceleration feels subtle but carries a lot of speed!
7:50 kind of a joke of a high temp warning, just a message for a second? no red light on dash? the temp needle which has literally 2mm of travel between normal and hot.. wow.
Was excited til I saw 6k limiter 😂
Each time there’s a Subaru on here it’s running hot, I still like them either way, brz gang 👌🏾
Great car and video !
Gonna bring you mine next year (hopefully) which has every reliability mods + chassis renforcement and brakes upgrade ! Just want to put Sportster CSs in !
Something about a Subaru on the Ring. Awesome pedal work
The careful driver in me would have quit long before the end of the lap. I don't see a needle almoat hit H and think "meh".
Am I getting that right... you guys had over 130c coolant temps?
hopefully that was oil temp.
@@Nebbia_affaraccimiei You can see on gauges that coolant was propably close to 130c too.
Shhhh 🤫
Subaru's are great car's and pretty quick also
the avg suv in 2024 would walk it.
@@remissiveslave what suv would walk an sti in the ring? lol
@@remissiveslave What's your point?
@@remissiveslavearound the Nurburgring?
@@remissiveslave In a track? Nah those soccer mums would roll over at a corner.
Used 1/4 a tank of gas for a lap wow😮
How did the car feel balance wise, Misha? Did it have a lot of understeer or was it pretty neutral?
YOU HAVE GOOD CORNERING.
TAKUMI SENT ME.
NAMASTE 🙏🏽 FROM BROOKLYN.
I’ve taken my VA STI on the ring with the stock intercooler and even then I had pretty high temperatures. After installing my FMIC my oil temperature alone is now 20-25f higher. I can only imagine if I go back again with my current set up lol.
Does the FMIC affect your coolant temps since it’s blocking the radiator
@@Craiggg12345 I could only imagine so since the core size for my FMIC is 4.5 inches. I installed my FMIC just when winter started so I will have to gauge it when it’s summer, since that’s when I went to the ring.
@@gotboost1183 FMIC will significant'y increase coolant temps. I'll take higher intake temps and slightly reduced power than high coolant temps which = no more lapping.
@@gotboost1183seems like it’s only worth upgrading the top mount to a bigger unit and leaving the air for the radiator clear.
Subaru would be great if they just had normal inline engines.
Great lap, that coolant temp though 😅Look forward to a VB lap!
Subaru needs to watch your video and learn, look where the problem is most Subaru's just overheat at the climb.
7:12 gas pedal to the metal, while car is almost not accelerating. Limp mode. Coolant overheated, oil pressure warning. This engine is TOASTED. Only question to Misha: why you kept driving it, while seeing all warnings?
he kept driving it so people like you can post dumb comments lile this one
Gotta love Subaru's!
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No apostrophe needed, it's just 'Subarus'.
@@willwastaken thx
можно было посадить владельца на заднее кресло, тогда бы по балансу веса на оси субарь превратился бы в среднемоторный)
Can’t believe that I can drive the same STI with Misha 🤯cause the owner is my friend 😂
Was the car ok after the track run? So many people complain about the temp
@@xristodoulos88 it should be alright 👍🏻
So the noise between shifting was sync mesh making that sudden scratch or crunch noise?
Dare I say that a sorted suspension, tires and a nice set of brakes without too much power make an STI a bit boring? Another 100hp and this thing would've been a blast I bet.
Ooookay why ? What car do you own if it's ok too ask ?
@@doaSkid69Misha liked his comment so yes another 100hp would be fun
Hey I'm just thinking an extra 100hp from one of these is also making a lot more heat 😉 keep it were it is and giving it better cooling that would of made Misha's lap alot quicker if he didn't have to nanny the temp gauge
Heat has many issues with this platform not just eventually expelling your coolant from the system and seizing the engine or if your lucky doing a Head gasket
You also run a risk of pre detonation with the increased and unstable cylinder temps wich can mean bye bye ring lands
:)
i need to get there one day just for that section before the mini carousel alone . great lap you just cant beat driving a subaru they just have a vibe . the owner seems like a lovely guy .
As a viewer from Hong Kong, I'm quite surprised about this🤭 Nice car, nice lap!
A hengerfejtömítés kilépett a csoportból 😄
Отлично бежит по кольцу, но такое охлаждение уложит двигатель
That's clutch is too much for the car lol
That thing is cooked 😂
The happiness in his face ❤
Unbelievable how an M2 just easily destroys this car. And flew away.
Love the Subaru though. Always loved them.
Head gasket next thrashing