Wass haste gemacht? kw oder biltstein fahrwerk, nur h&r stabi hintern und k04 umbau mit so etwa 450ps? ( fahre selber k03 limo und kybrid ko4 avant s4 ;) )
The battle between the subaru and the audi in this video was more entertaining to me than watching professional race cars. My eyes were glued to the television. Theres something about street cars thats just that little bit more enjoyable to watch
That's the sort of comment I came here looking for. I've seen *very* fast older S4s like that at track days here in the US - not much recently, but definitely back 15 or 20 years ago. What impressed me more was the Seat! Didn't get to see much of it because it just walked away from the STI.
MC talking about the S4 the whole time is the equivalent of going on a date and talking about the server the whole time. lol Great cars and driving by both 👍👍
Here's a run down of the car. I did have it all in my head ready to go but when you have a camera pointed at you it kinda all disappeared. First off the car was down on power compared to last year. Didn't like the fuel and the octane booster we had was crap. (Millers one shot) do not recommend it. Ecu had cut boost so max boost pressure the ecu would allow was 1.2bar instead of the normal 1.5bar. We were using vp fuels octane booster last year and it worked great. The cars a jdm sti s206 I could go into detail about the car but would be easier to google and someone's already posted the spec in the comments. The engine is untouched and completely stock hasnt even been mapped. Only mods to engine is a 42mm koyo alloy rad and my custom 25 row setrab oil cooler with ducting through the fog cover and vented into the wheel arch. Suspension has a few mods, hks hipermax r coilovers with 12/10k rated springs. Front pillow ball anti lift kit, s206 high castor bottom arms. 24mm front roll bar/22mm rear roll bar on medium settings. Fuji racing anti roll bar mount braces to stop lateral movement in the rear bar. Fuji racing adjustable toe arm, cusco adjustable camber arms, solid mount rear subframe. Fuji racing gearbox pitch mount, sti grpN main gearbox mount, billet subframe brace. Fuji racing monoblock 355x32mm 6 pot brake kit, dixcel ra compound pads in the front, dixcel slotted and z compound pads in the rear, 300c+ brake fluid and fuji racing braided brake lines along with a cusco master cylinder stopper. Alignment is 4degrees camber, 0 toe, 6.5degrees of castor up front. 3degrees camber, 0 toe in the rear. The whole point of the build was to make a subaru go round a track all day long and it does that. Already looking at getting it mapped and converting to a flex fuel set up to run methanol so that will sort my fuel issue out. So ill be back again next year (can only come once a year due to work commitments 😭)
When you realize the B5 S4 weighs ~3700lbs stock, and 60% of it is over the front end, the little black sleeper sedan in the video becomes all the more impressive… 🙌 🇩🇪 💪 🐌 Looked like Jason Statham’s stunt man driving it. 🏎️ 💪
Yes I was also surprised about it behaving like a well balanced RWD car. Way in my past I had a Porsche 944, that also used to look like this on fast corners, fully controlled but with the tail out a bit. A lot later I had a B6 S4, and unless you actually braked it into the corner it would prefer sliding the front wheels. It was comfortable and fast on the road, but definitely not a track car.
I run an uk S4 avant with K04s (RS6 turbos) has United motorsport 440whp 480w lbf base map plus dynamic setup. Lots of bits added but standard block. Chassis / brakes setup to match power. Having owned built / rallied and raced lots of cars, I would say the S4 is a seriously underrated sleeper! Quickest car I have ever owned.
Incredible! Notes taken from a 94' UrS4 owner here in the U.S.. Parents owned a BMW shop and raced Tii's. in the 80's. Sold mine in 89' and just got back into cars recently mainly to pass something along to the next generation especially this incredible period in German automotive history. Discovered the 5 cyl. platform which led to choosing the AAN/01E powered UrS4. Been following Misha's channel for awhile now and seen almost every other car under the sun except a 90's Audi sedan. This video confirmed all of my assumptions about it's potential and capabilities around The Ring- can't wait for a feature on one.
@@jdmimportlogistics My first Audi build was a Ur Quattro, circa 1999. I used a motronic Ecu and look from an RS2 and bolted to 10valve. With a cam (copy of works rally) homemade manifolds etc I had very usable 340hp at 1.1bar. I then had a 600hp RS2, UrS4 (kept standard) then early RS4 v8. I hated the RS4 and moved onto a 964 Porsche and build a RS Cup replica. It was astonishing and with life, cars took a back seat until I bought this S4. Modern cars are completely soulless… I could write so much on the subject! Walter Rohrl did some amazing stuff with 90 20v Imsa and 200 10v racers.
Pretty impressive the S4 held on so well. Hope you can meet up with the driver and see what he has done to the car, it looked like it rotates quite well.
The highest compliment to the car was you just jumping in and driving the doors off of it, with zero feedback about it until the end of the lap, just hauling ass. The owner was so obviously overjoyed at the thrashing you gave it, real car guy.
I regard myself as a B/C5 enthusiast having owned all A4,A6 and the Passat of course. 😅 Still missing the Skoda though and since it is Finland, only ever owned the FWDs 😢
Amazing Video as always! Just in case someone wonders what’s special about the S206 NBR Package, you get: STI tuned Bilstein dampers S206 BBS 19-inch forged wheels Brembo 6-pots in the front with 2 peace rotors Brembo 4-pot in the rear flexible front strut brace flexible draw stiffener lateral link with pillow ball bushing special engine balance S206 ECU twin scroll ball bearing turbo S206 sport muffler Large intercooler with S206 logo strengthened intake STI designed air cleaner S206 multi mode VDC Recaro bucket seats Carbon roof Carbon S206 spoiler Carbon front lip Special front bumper Finns on the fender Lighter hood Lots of interior dress ups I'm sure I missed some things They only made 300 S206 and only 100 of them are equipped with the NBR package. They made these to celebrate their 24h class win.
Thank you for this! Saved me a google search and a bunch of sifting through bad results. I’m guessing this version of the STi never made it to the US? 👀 Amazing hardware combo out of the box. 👌 🤤 🇯🇵
@TheTexican05 no, jdm only. Although there's not much s206 left suspension wise the s206 suspension was good, but only took it so far, ive done lots of mods to the suspension and replaced the factory 6 pots with our 355mm 6 pots.. Rest of the car is untouched. Engine is stock too
Or this driver actually understands how to extract the best from the platform, 99.99% don't. Same with the 911.. An extreme weight distribution problem needs a very specific skill set from the driver.
@@ukwan this 100%. I've owned several B5 S4's over the years and the key is learning to use that front weight bias to your advantage. Trail-brake late and hard, load that front end with grip and square off your entry as this guy does, full throttle before apex so the boost kicks-in just after, and it will torpedo nicely through corners. You'll be fighting that weight a bit, but it's surprising how much that front can grip with a decent set of tires before it hints at washing out. Made the STI's I've owned feel like toys in comparison.
I used to own a peugeot 106 rallye that was fully stripped and took it on several track days, as there was basically no interior from the front bucket seats back, most of the weight was over the front end, bit it had beautifully controllable lift off oversteer, like this audi driver I would play with, in my cars case, the throttle through corners to step that back end out slightly and get the front to dig it. Was so much fun.
Lots of audi comments, but for a stock powered impreza this thing was beating down well with no issues. Looks like a well put together car, few more hp and that should be flying.
B5 S4 has a 2.7(2.67) with twin (borg warner) k03 turbochargers. This one likely has k04's but at 330hp claimed by the owner, it could just be stgII-k03. (Chip/supporting mods) The potential these cars have outweigh the lengthy pro/con list :) I owned one for about 6 years.(2001.5 - 6MT) Very nose heavy
Now you talking out of your a$$. Nobody puts k04 just to claim 330. You get 330 from the original k03 at stg 1. The reason you go through the hustle and put k04 is that now you have rs4 power at 380, in a much cheaper s4. If you throw in supporting mods you are looking at steady 400-420 crank. Obviously the guy has upgraded the swampy breaks and the horrendous suspension, and with the pair of big basket ball balls he’s got he has a good ring tool 😊 I had one yellow touring, the sound from the ACE competition exhaust was beautiful 🤩
@josefinkjellsson7051 I think you may have misunderstood my comment? Stg1/2 are still k03 cars and can easily see 330hp. Watching the video I assumed it had k04's but noticed the lack of top end those cars produce. That's why i suggested it was just stg2. There was a "stage" called stg3- that was a k04 swap without with proper fueling or supporting mods that would come later on depending on the owners budget. Believe it or not that was a real thing back in the day. I had a borla and piggy pipes on mine. Just silver with a sunroof. But yes the owner definetly has some handling mods done and knows exactly how to aim that heavy nose out of corners.
My friend picked up a 2015 S4, the Supercharged 3L one. I was mindblown how fucking quick it was. But it's one of those cars that even if you aren't trying to drive fast, you don't realise how fast you're going. Nice car but we've lost something with newer cars, I'd much prefer an older one. Well at least I'd probably keep my licence a few weeks longer.
@@the.villanI was cruising in an express lane one day and there was a bit of traffic. My brother in the passenger seat started saying to my dad on the phone how these idiots were going 65 when in actuality I was going nearly 100mph even the older ones feel comfortable at those speeds. A true autobahn cruiser.
I had a b5 s4 upgraded turbos and striped out track set up absolutely loved that car! Glad to see they are still out there crushing it🤙🏼 very underrated car
Hallo Ich bin der Fahrer vom Cupra Finde es der Knaller auf deinem Video zu sein. Verfolge dein Kanal schon lange bist ein super cooler Typ 😊 Mein Cupra ist ein 2017 er 300 mit Performance Packet. Habe einiges Verbessert an Fahrwerk Motor etc. Hat ca 400 PS und macht Mega Spaß. Tooles Video und Danke für die Kommentare.
It Is crankshaft horsepower for the subie so about 260 at the wheels so it makes sense I've had a Forester with 570 even in the 370whp "low" tune it accelerated like a missile
i used to own a b5 s4, that 2.7 v6 twin turbo makes wild power. I was making 435 crank torque at 1800 rpm on a tune and stock car. He might have a k04 turbo upgrade in that one.
So love watching these at work in a little window, but when your eyes caught that S4 it went full screen quick. I would love to see you do a ride along with him and his kids as a passenger.
@@seanus27 get one 2007+ cars with a few suspension mods handle so much better than the newage cars, plenty of jdm 2.0 cars on the market in the UK now. Wouldn't bother with a UK 2.5
To see a B5 S4 doing that on the Ring is EPIC. For those that know... 1. It should be understeering into the Forest every corner...the 01E trans is probably trying to reject every up and downshift...and it appears to be a K04 setup with a shimmed diff to be doing anything like that on corner exit. That driver knows the B5 chassis as well as the old B5 Challange/Super Touring car drivers. Im blown away by his skill.
Don't know how that audi is rotating so well, maybe the driver. But I always found the B5 platform pretty awesome and they aged well in the correct condition and color.
The B5 chassis was the first multilink in the front Audi chassis after the A8. It has not changed much since then in newer Audis - thus you can pretty much make it handle like you wish. 😅
i’ve owned Two stage 3 S4 B5 and One Stage 3+ 500 & 610bhp They are quick even by todays standards not great round corners unless a lot of work has been done Legendary cars!!
I miss the shit outta my S4 B5.5 6MT. 500HP tune/ Boltons and just great mid range power. Steady torque and planted in the twist. Should have never sold... :(
Misha,for me the best and most fun video so far👌👏! Nice fighting with the s4 driver! The only thing i missed in a few vid's is an rear camera instellation.For me it's an must have...i think that will be even more fun/action🙏 Greetings from Koblenz🙋
@@dylan2364he blamed it on it being Easter weekend and said people seeing a car like that causes people to do stupid things. I think he should take the car around it at least once.
The first multilink after A8. The modern Ingolstadt Audis are not that different when it comes to the chassis, so the B5 you can get really close to any newer Audi.
Great video, your driving in the subaru tailing the S4 made it damn entertaining. You guys were pushing both cars proper which is a lot cooler than run of the mill car vids nowadays with everyone just mashin their foot down with paddle shifters and expensive cars. Especially this subie, high personality car and that era S4 is a huge favorite of mine. Love this vid
I know you aren’t meant to “race” on TF but when misha gets into a dog fight with another car it’s different level. His whole driving standard completely changes. Definitely my favourite type of on board
Absolutely, epic. Loving the STI and and that crazy B5. I have a B5 myself. Sadly a normal tdi FWD but still, i think that chassis is extremely underrated. I have upgraded suspensions and arms/bushings and once you learn how to manage that front weight in corners you can forget about the oversteer issues and light back. I enjoy my sunday drives trough the italian hills, where i live. Btw we all now want the video with that S4 :)
Imprezas were making 280bhp in the 90s, I like Subaru's but their engines are stuck in past. Subaru's make the same power they did 30 years ago. The Golf GTI has doubles it's power in 30 years and the best Subaru could do was 10bhp.
@@user-ue6iv2rd1n Emissions getting ridiculous is what stopped them. Add to that Subaru doesnt really have the coin for a proper R&D program and is probs hamstrung being owned by Toyota now
This video is perfect exaple that some people just cant drive quattro on track, and others just killin it. Perfect driving by that audi dude. Fav video❤
I noticed Misha was not revving the car out close to redline at 8000. Is this EJ207 hurt? Even shifting at 7500 would have kept him on the power band, and have some leeway to avoid a money shift. The Audi was bonkers.
Subarus don't really make much power top end but it also sounded like the clutch was slipping high rpm. The rpms should drop when the clutch was engaged but you could see they were shooting up
He probably has 330 at the wheels and subie 315 at the crankshaft probably at around 260-270 at the wheels. I had a 2002 Forester with 570whp and at even the "low" 370whp tune it accelerated like a missile had it for two years in Greece drunk too much fuel now a dude pulls a trailer with it after 16 years
My subaru was down on boost as well, didn't have any octane booster with me this year, so was only boosting to 1.1-1.2 bar, factory is 1.5bar, but went to have fun and got home without any issues. So more mods to do ready for next year
@@Stis206trackdays I would keep it close to stock it seems to be a blast to drive or I would put a good built motor close to 400 but for reliability . I've seen stock type Ra blocks push 1100whp but only for a few thousand kmrs . If you built it right with a tuner that knows what Subarus need it will last . Now I think I will switch to the ez30r flat 6 Subaru engine from my ej20 legacy for the sound only it is marvelous. Whatever you will do in the future you have an amazing car a dream for some of us
this was awesome to watch, going perfectly in every corner and the audi driver as well, i have 1000+ h in ac on NÜRBURGRING and i still can't drive in a f****g game like this man :)) i hope one day i will be there with misha for a lap
Nice driving as always, the s4 pushes it really, really hard/aggressively in the corners, but not a word from Misha about that nonchalant spider passing by at the little carousel. Misha is not the slowest. Very impressive how Porsche made a convertible so easy to drive and capable of these speeds and handling :O
You just taking it easy today Misha, short shifting at 7k. Unless maybe the owner asked you too. Either way nice driving. Seems like a very well set up car.
That German engineering is no joke, my buddy’s had a 2014 S4 and now he’s got a 2019 S4, both cars could eat through corners like nothing. Quattro is insane
I met this Audi driver several times on Easter Sunday, once in this lap for example, when he nearly caused a collision with overheated & smoking brake: th-cam.com/video/X0ihPhrY4Ps/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mvN9SduUKYZ9cNEt&t=230 (starting at position). Dangerous driver though I have to say he is sending it absolutely on the edge.
Awesome driving as usual, misha. Privileged for you to take me round again 👌now i need power mods 😅 same again next year? 💪
Love this video and love your car! Misha took my old M3 CS round in the wet last week 😅, he’s an awesome guy! You got an Instagram account? 🤘
Yes pls!
@@mgcharoudinif you'd like to drive a similar spec B5 S4 - I'm taking mine to the ring in August if you'd like a go! (Mine is an avant )
@@olis_garage yes pls!
Sounds like a Boro accent? Nice car and video mate 👍
And now we all wants a vidéo with this S4 lol
Very true
So much
yessssssss
Yes, absolutely
Yes!!!
Hallo , vielen Dank für die tollen Kommentare 😊 Ich bin der Fahrer des S4 ....hatte meine Familie an Bord. War also nicht am Limit, aber die Bremsen.😇
Lol mega xD
Nice driving!
Vaya aparato y vaya manos😊😊😊😊
Wass haste gemacht? kw oder biltstein fahrwerk, nur h&r stabi hintern und k04 umbau mit so etwa 450ps? ( fahre selber k03 limo und kybrid ko4 avant s4 ;) )
nice!
The battle between the subaru and the audi in this video was more entertaining to me than watching professional race cars. My eyes were glued to the television. Theres something about street cars thats just that little bit more enjoyable to watch
Then along came the Seat and blew them both away 🤯
@@eyesodd lol. Yeah that was awesome as well
That Audi S4 driving reminded me of the movie : Transporter 1 to 3 (i know the car is different) i don't know why but yea his driving was insane
Same, probably the way they recorded the movie scenes from the car behind
@@samsonacc8081 yea the turnings were identical to movie
@@samsonacc8081And the way the car balanced itself
@@IroquoisPlissken I didn't understand what you have said?
Audi S4 …his driving was insane
Best video I’ve seen in a long long time! That S4 was mega haha! Not to mention the Subaru - also looked awesome!
This Subaru handles very well. Every corner was so smooth. Add 50 more hp and this one will be an absolute weapon
Compliment to STI
Stole my exact thought
Considering thats standard power and engine its pretty quick. Is an S series though not a standard STI
Not to forget, the A052 tyres compliment its handling
I’d say another 75-100 to make it more competitive . At 312 hp with drivetrian losses that would make it a real threat on the track
B5 was special but the Leon definitely deserves some praise too! 🙌🏻
That's the sort of comment I came here looking for. I've seen *very* fast older S4s like that at track days here in the US - not much recently, but definitely back 15 or 20 years ago.
What impressed me more was the Seat! Didn't get to see much of it because it just walked away from the STI.
And Golf 8 GTI white color
yep and the leon is 25 years newer :)
MC talking about the S4 the whole time is the equivalent of going on a date and talking about the server the whole time. lol
Great cars and driving by both 👍👍
lol bro was getting cucked
Here's a run down of the car. I did have it all in my head ready to go but when you have a camera pointed at you it kinda all disappeared. First off the car was down on power compared to last year. Didn't like the fuel and the octane booster we had was crap. (Millers one shot) do not recommend it. Ecu had cut boost so max boost pressure the ecu would allow was 1.2bar instead of the normal 1.5bar. We were using vp fuels octane booster last year and it worked great. The cars a jdm sti s206 I could go into detail about the car but would be easier to google and someone's already posted the spec in the comments. The engine is untouched and completely stock hasnt even been mapped. Only mods to engine is a 42mm koyo alloy rad and my custom 25 row setrab oil cooler with ducting through the fog cover and vented into the wheel arch. Suspension has a few mods, hks hipermax r coilovers with 12/10k rated springs. Front pillow ball anti lift kit, s206 high castor bottom arms. 24mm front roll bar/22mm rear roll bar on medium settings. Fuji racing anti roll bar mount braces to stop lateral movement in the rear bar. Fuji racing adjustable toe arm, cusco adjustable camber arms, solid mount rear subframe. Fuji racing gearbox pitch mount, sti grpN main gearbox mount, billet subframe brace. Fuji racing monoblock 355x32mm 6 pot brake kit, dixcel ra compound pads in the front, dixcel slotted and z compound pads in the rear, 300c+ brake fluid and fuji racing braided brake lines along with a cusco master cylinder stopper. Alignment is 4degrees camber, 0 toe, 6.5degrees of castor up front. 3degrees camber, 0 toe in the rear. The whole point of the build was to make a subaru go round a track all day long and it does that. Already looking at getting it mapped and converting to a flex fuel set up to run methanol so that will sort my fuel issue out. So ill be back again next year (can only come once a year due to work commitments 😭)
When you realize the B5 S4 weighs ~3700lbs stock, and 60% of it is over the front end, the little black sleeper sedan in the video becomes all the more impressive… 🙌 🇩🇪 💪 🐌
Looked like Jason Statham’s stunt man driving it. 🏎️ 💪
Wonder what the weight distribution is when it's full of passengers 😂
Yes I was also surprised about it behaving like a well balanced RWD car. Way in my past I had a Porsche 944, that also used to look like this on fast corners, fully controlled but with the tail out a bit. A lot later I had a B6 S4, and unless you actually braked it into the corner it would prefer sliding the front wheels. It was comfortable and fast on the road, but definitely not a track car.
@@ScottZ370I’m sure the weight distribution was Much better probably. That looked way more planted than my S4 ever will be
@@ScottZ370It was a tactical kid in the back. To help with weight distribution. :D
@@ScottZ370 And what the total weight was if it was full of passenger, a derp a derp
I run an uk S4 avant with K04s (RS6 turbos) has United motorsport 440whp 480w lbf base map plus dynamic setup. Lots of bits added but standard block. Chassis / brakes setup to match power. Having owned built / rallied and raced lots of cars, I would say the S4 is a seriously underrated sleeper! Quickest car I have ever owned.
Love mine too, and mine is only on K03s
Incredible! Notes taken from a 94' UrS4 owner here in the U.S.. Parents owned a BMW shop and raced Tii's. in the 80's. Sold mine in 89' and just got back into cars recently mainly to pass something along to the next generation especially this incredible period in German automotive history. Discovered the 5 cyl. platform which led to choosing the AAN/01E powered UrS4. Been following Misha's channel for awhile now and seen almost every other car under the sun except a 90's Audi sedan. This video confirmed all of my assumptions about it's potential and capabilities around The Ring- can't wait for a feature on one.
@@jdmimportlogistics My first Audi build was a Ur Quattro, circa 1999. I used a motronic Ecu and look from an RS2 and bolted to 10valve. With a cam (copy of works rally) homemade manifolds etc I had very usable 340hp at 1.1bar. I then had a 600hp RS2, UrS4 (kept standard) then early RS4 v8. I hated the RS4 and moved onto a 964 Porsche and build a RS Cup replica. It was astonishing and with life, cars took a back seat until I bought this S4. Modern cars are completely soulless… I could write so much on the subject! Walter Rohrl did some amazing stuff with 90 20v Imsa and 200 10v racers.
So utterly boring to look at though, the designers took some annual leave when they designed it 😂
@@MrCaterhamr500 You know you chose a poor design when the estate is the more desirable option!! 😀
Pretty impressive the S4 held on so well. Hope you can meet up with the driver and see what he has done to the car, it looked like it rotates quite well.
The highest compliment to the car was you just jumping in and driving the doors off of it, with zero feedback about it until the end of the lap, just hauling ass. The owner was so obviously overjoyed at the thrashing you gave it, real car guy.
As a b5 Audi enthusiast, this was beautifull
I regard myself as a B/C5 enthusiast having owned all A4,A6 and the Passat of course. 😅 Still missing the Skoda though and since it is Finland, only ever owned the FWDs 😢
Amazing Video as always! Just in case someone wonders what’s special about the S206 NBR Package, you get:
STI tuned Bilstein dampers
S206 BBS 19-inch forged wheels
Brembo 6-pots in the front with 2 peace rotors
Brembo 4-pot in the rear flexible front strut brace
flexible draw stiffener
lateral link with pillow ball bushing
special engine balance
S206 ECU
twin scroll ball bearing turbo
S206 sport muffler
Large intercooler with S206 logo
strengthened intake
STI designed air cleaner
S206 multi mode VDC
Recaro bucket seats
Carbon roof
Carbon S206 spoiler
Carbon front lip
Special front bumper
Finns on the fender
Lighter hood
Lots of interior dress ups
I'm sure I missed some things
They only made 300 S206 and only 100 of them are equipped with the NBR package.
They made these to celebrate their 24h class win.
Thank you for this! Saved me a google search and a bunch of sifting through bad results.
I’m guessing this version of the STi never made it to the US? 👀
Amazing hardware combo out of the box. 👌 🤤 🇯🇵
@TheTexican05 no, jdm only. Although there's not much s206 left suspension wise the s206 suspension was good, but only took it so far, ive done lots of mods to the suspension and replaced the factory 6 pots with our 355mm 6 pots.. Rest of the car is untouched. Engine is stock too
Everyone's talking about the S4 (rightfully) but no one noticed the mad lad in the little Boxster with it's top down there at the end!
Never seen an S4 of that generation rotate so well. Seems like it‘s been dialed in properly.
Or this driver actually understands how to extract the best from the platform, 99.99% don't.
Same with the 911.. An extreme weight distribution problem needs a very specific skill set from the driver.
@@ukwanYea he obviously knows how to drive, at the start I noticed his aggressive turn in with a tap of the brakes to help rotate the rear
@@ukwan this 100%. I've owned several B5 S4's over the years and the key is learning to use that front weight bias to your advantage. Trail-brake late and hard, load that front end with grip and square off your entry as this guy does, full throttle before apex so the boost kicks-in just after, and it will torpedo nicely through corners. You'll be fighting that weight a bit, but it's surprising how much that front can grip with a decent set of tires before it hints at washing out. Made the STI's I've owned feel like toys in comparison.
I used to own a peugeot 106 rallye that was fully stripped and took it on several track days, as there was basically no interior from the front bucket seats back, most of the weight was over the front end, bit it had beautifully controllable lift off oversteer, like this audi driver I would play with, in my cars case, the throttle through corners to step that back end out slightly and get the front to dig it. Was so much fun.
Lots of audi comments, but for a stock powered impreza this thing was beating down well with no issues. Looks like a well put together car, few more hp and that should be flying.
That Audi driver knows his car very well, that really was insane skills 😅
B5 S4 has a 2.7(2.67) with twin (borg warner) k03 turbochargers. This one likely has k04's but at 330hp claimed by the owner, it could just be stgII-k03. (Chip/supporting mods) The potential these cars have outweigh the lengthy pro/con list :) I owned one for about 6 years.(2001.5 - 6MT) Very nose heavy
stfu with ur nose heavy...only bullshit.
Way more engine potential than my IS350, I thought it had 320-350hp, fun cars 4 sure!
Now you talking out of your a$$. Nobody puts k04 just to claim 330.
You get 330 from the original k03 at stg 1.
The reason you go through the hustle and put k04 is that now you have rs4 power at 380, in a much cheaper s4.
If you throw in supporting mods you are looking at steady 400-420 crank.
Obviously the guy has upgraded the swampy breaks and the horrendous suspension, and with the pair of big basket ball balls he’s got he has a good ring tool 😊
I had one yellow touring, the sound from the ACE competition exhaust was beautiful 🤩
@josefinkjellsson7051 I think you may have misunderstood my comment? Stg1/2 are still k03 cars and can easily see 330hp. Watching the video I assumed it had k04's but noticed the lack of top end those cars produce. That's why i suggested it was just stg2. There was a "stage" called stg3- that was a k04 swap without with proper fueling or supporting mods that would come later on depending on the owners budget. Believe it or not that was a real thing back in the day. I had a borla and piggy pipes on mine. Just silver with a sunroof. But yes the owner definetly has some handling mods done and knows exactly how to aim that heavy nose out of corners.
@@josefinkjellsson7051 stg 1 e85 k03's @0.9/1b for 330hp on mine, if you put k04's you can hit easily 450-460hp.
B5 S4’s are the goat!
How?
@@USConnexion Did you even watch the lap? Lol
My friend picked up a 2015 S4, the Supercharged 3L one. I was mindblown how fucking quick it was. But it's one of those cars that even if you aren't trying to drive fast, you don't realise how fast you're going. Nice car but we've lost something with newer cars, I'd much prefer an older one. Well at least I'd probably keep my licence a few weeks longer.
@@the.villanI was cruising in an express lane one day and there was a bit of traffic. My brother in the passenger seat started saying to my dad on the phone how these idiots were going 65 when in actuality I was going nearly 100mph even the older ones feel comfortable at those speeds. A true autobahn cruiser.
b8 is the goat silly
I had a b5 s4 upgraded turbos and striped out track set up absolutely loved that car! Glad to see they are still out there crushing it🤙🏼 very underrated car
Yesterday was the 36th anniversary of STI. Good timing Misha.
Awesome timing!
Misha: He is on it! That one knows how to pedal. Must be close to 500 horsepower in it....
Random Seat: Coming through, get out of my way!
lol.
Hallo
Ich bin der Fahrer vom Cupra
Finde es der Knaller auf deinem Video zu sein. Verfolge dein Kanal schon lange bist ein super cooler Typ 😊
Mein Cupra ist ein 2017 er 300 mit Performance Packet. Habe einiges Verbessert an Fahrwerk Motor etc. Hat ca 400 PS und macht Mega Spaß. Tooles Video und Danke für die Kommentare.
The real MVP.
The real MVP.
You made me as a Proud as a Seat Owner myself!! Good job!
Klasse!!!!!!!
So the S4 with 330 HP and 3 people was leaving the 315 HP Sti with 2 people on the straights? Must've been 330 AWHP vs BHP for the Subaru.
It Is crankshaft horsepower for the subie so about 260 at the wheels so it makes sense I've had a Forester with 570 even in the 370whp "low" tune it accelerated like a missile
B5 S4’s make more torque than power usually so not really surprising
Nope, look at the Audi weight, it's one of the lightest cars.
@@etshArk87B5 S4’s are heavy as hell, they’re 3700lbs
That was awesome. You so need to do a run with the S4 driver so we can see more of it, that battle with it was brilliant, hats off to the driver. 👍😎
i used to own a b5 s4, that 2.7 v6 twin turbo makes wild power. I was making 435 crank torque at 1800 rpm on a tune and stock car. He might have a k04 turbo upgrade in that one.
So love watching these at work in a little window, but when your eyes caught that S4 it went full screen quick. I would love to see you do a ride along with him and his kids as a passenger.
Crazy cupra 390-400 hp? Nice one!
Yes it has around that. A friend of mine drove then.
@@rednotpanda2409 very nice beast ! :)
300
That white golf passing at the carousel was v impressive. Disappeared soon after and the sti is fast. Grt video, love it. Ty
That B5 driver knows his car well and what a playful chassis the B5 is, greetings from another B5 driver😂
Awesome video. Owner didn’t look happy at end of vid that the Audi kept the Subaru honest. Both amazing cars and drivers. Subaru was lovely!
😂 didn't bother me it was fun chasing it, just a shame it was over too quickly 😂 my Sti has 0 power mods
@@Stis206trackdaysI had a 2005 UK STI I tuned to 450/410. It was the sweet spot at 330bhp. Your car has made me want another haha
@@seanus27 get one 2007+ cars with a few suspension mods handle so much better than the newage cars, plenty of jdm 2.0 cars on the market in the UK now. Wouldn't bother with a UK 2.5
this driver in audi knows his car very well, perfect funny lap Misha.
1:56 engine oil in the bottle holder. I like it!
It's the scooby way
Bimmer style
😂 it's not normally there, just had extra just incase. Never needed it by the way 👌
Boyyyy was that s4 moving. I wanna see what Misha can do in it
Probably no better than the s4s driver was doing, he was in the zone squeezing every drop out of that thing.
5:57 the Seat coming in was quite awesome.
3:43 This moment reminded me the famous "Was is´n das für'n Kombi" video 😂😂
To see a B5 S4 doing that on the Ring is EPIC.
For those that know... 1. It should be understeering into the Forest every corner...the 01E trans is probably trying to reject every up and downshift...and it appears to be a K04 setup with a shimmed diff to be doing anything like that on corner exit.
That driver knows the B5 chassis as well as the old B5 Challange/Super Touring car drivers. Im blown away by his skill.
Don't know how that audi is rotating so well, maybe the driver. But I always found the B5 platform pretty awesome and they aged well in the correct condition and color.
The B5 chassis was the first multilink in the front Audi chassis after the A8. It has not changed much since then in newer Audis - thus you can pretty much make it handle like you wish. 😅
i’ve owned Two stage 3 S4 B5 and One Stage 3+ 500 & 610bhp They are quick even by todays standards not great round corners unless a lot of work has been done
Legendary cars!!
I'd say in the winter with studded tires they are among the best around corners. 😂
The guy knows his Audi. It doesn't like to turn, so he jumps it into corners =)
I miss the shit outta my S4 B5.5 6MT. 500HP tune/ Boltons and just great mid range power. Steady torque and planted in the twist. Should have never sold... :(
Best video in a while! I wish that Cupra,S4,Sti together was longer
I was shocked how fast the Cupra was!? Didn’t see him again 😢
@@SalomonX88yea how in the world is that thing so fast
Its actually my Boss who ownes the leon, he has got 390HP
Hats off to the S4 driver for holding out so long against Misha.. loved this lap!
One of the best videos, so much fun and nice driving 👌
Misha,for me the best and most fun video so far👌👏!
Nice fighting with the s4 driver!
The only thing i missed in a few vid's is an rear camera instellation.For me it's an must have...i think that will be even more fun/action🙏
Greetings from Koblenz🙋
Wait a minute did I see a purple zenvo tsr-s at the garage 1:33 😶
Yes
@@mgcharoudin I hope video will come off the zenvo, its my favorite car with his active rear spoiler 😃
@@egeesen8635 It is Shmee150s he wont drive it on the track
@@dylan2364he want s to, he said that is waiting for some private track day for the ring to be calmer!!
@@dylan2364he blamed it on it being Easter weekend and said people seeing a car like that causes people to do stupid things. I think he should take the car around it at least once.
Owner looks SO happy to be involved in a 'race' 😄 👍
You need to make a video with that s4. Love this video
That little Subie handled the lap like a dream! Kept its cool too. Very impressive.
The Seat just went!!!
3:58 The Line you took through here was crazy amazing! full tilt! awesome angle!
Loved the interaction with the S4 in the end
B5 s4 are no joke…love mine…pushing close to 800hp with v3’s and 18z brakes..
The first multilink after A8. The modern Ingolstadt Audis are not that different when it comes to the chassis, so the B5 you can get really close to any newer Audi.
I love it when Misha sees a car he can " keep up with," The video quality and excitement just excel.
Audi B5 S4 Quattro
2.7 V6 TT Loads of tuning potential, if a little pricey!
8:40 that white golf obliterated you! Lol 😂
was that white golf the R or Gti club ?
GTI@@lukabuyens1397
@@fredericoespinoza but very fast for orginal GTI ;-)
Great video, your driving in the subaru tailing the S4 made it damn entertaining. You guys were pushing both cars proper which is a lot cooler than run of the mill car vids nowadays with everyone just mashin their foot down with paddle shifters and expensive cars. Especially this subie, high personality car and that era S4 is a huge favorite of mine. Love this vid
misha was so focused on that audi's driving he wasnt able to go 100% in the subie 😂😂
Misha: LOOK ATDAT AUDI
Subaru owner:
The car looks very happy with its present setup, all seems nicely balanced. No drama. Enjoy !
Misha's videos are always on point, but this was one of the best, what a show from both vehicles.
I know you aren’t meant to “race” on TF but when misha gets into a dog fight with another car it’s different level. His whole driving standard completely changes. Definitely my favourite type of on board
He made that s4 dance on its tip toes. We need to see it now!
The black Cupra is Amazing 😮
get a lap with that audi please
Saw a B5, had to watch
Absolutely, epic. Loving the STI and and that crazy B5. I have a B5 myself. Sadly a normal tdi FWD but still, i think that chassis is extremely underrated. I have upgraded suspensions and arms/bushings and once you learn how to manage that front weight in corners you can forget about the oversteer issues and light back. I enjoy my sunday drives trough the italian hills, where i live. Btw we all now want the video with that S4 :)
Найди этого водителя и сними ролик вместе с ним на этой же машине, будет очень интересно!!!!!!!
That Seat flew by subaru and audi as if they were not even trying hard. 😂
Crazy that the VB WRX’s will put down this power reliably with just a quality tune.
Goes to show the engineering improvements from the EJ to the FA24.
The EJ207 does as well. Its just the EJ257 that has always been crap.
Imprezas were making 280bhp in the 90s, I like Subaru's but their engines are stuck in past. Subaru's make the same power they did 30 years ago.
The Golf GTI has doubles it's power in 30 years and the best Subaru could do was 10bhp.
@@user-ue6iv2rd1n Couldn't stop thinking about this though out the race, and how can a modern sti be this underpowered and slow?
@@user-ue6iv2rd1n Emissions getting ridiculous is what stopped them. Add to that Subaru doesnt really have the coin for a proper R&D program and is probs hamstrung being owned by Toyota now
This video is perfect exaple that some people just cant drive quattro on track, and others just killin it. Perfect driving by that audi dude. Fav video❤
ランエボも復活して欲しいよね
スバルだけ頑張ってるけどライバルがいないのは寂しい
そですね
Busy day, that S4 driver sent that thing. Reminds me of Senna's driving style for some reason
B5 Superiority
I've litteraly been smiling the entire video.
Damn I miss my glory days tracking my Audi S2.
Getting sentimental here😂
I noticed Misha was not revving the car out close to redline at 8000. Is this EJ207 hurt? Even shifting at 7500 would have kept him on the power band, and have some leeway to avoid a money shift. The Audi was bonkers.
Subarus don't really make much power top end but it also sounded like the clutch was slipping high rpm. The rpms should drop when the clutch was engaged but you could see they were shooting up
some crazy driver in that S4, very nice, Misha made him take all off that Audi, amazing both drivers and drive
INSANE
Was this video about the Subaru or the Audi?😂 Awesome driving between the both you though!
To be honest, I don't care about he Audi half as much, as about the freaking SEAT... that was a bloody beast...
That's a B5 for you, however it's in some much needed stiffer roll bars and/or dampener settings car has a ton of body roll.
I thoroughly enjoyed the Audi driver not racing but rather practicing his "getaway" driving skills 😂
Make a b5 s4 video!
what a Awesome round as allways thanks Misha and the rest of the team.
He probably has 330 at the wheels and subie 315 at the crankshaft probably at around 260-270 at the wheels. I had a 2002 Forester with 570whp and at even the "low" 370whp tune it accelerated like a missile had it for two years in Greece drunk too much fuel now a dude pulls a trailer with it after 16 years
My subaru was down on boost as well, didn't have any octane booster with me this year, so was only boosting to 1.1-1.2 bar, factory is 1.5bar, but went to have fun and got home without any issues. So more mods to do ready for next year
@@Stis206trackdays I would keep it close to stock it seems to be a blast to drive or I would put a good built motor close to 400 but for reliability . I've seen stock type Ra blocks push 1100whp but only for a few thousand kmrs . If you built it right with a tuner that knows what Subarus need it will last . Now I think I will switch to the ez30r flat 6 Subaru engine from my ej20 legacy for the sound only it is marvelous. Whatever you will do in the future you have an amazing car a dream for some of us
this was awesome to watch, going perfectly in every corner and the audi driver as well, i have 1000+ h in ac on NÜRBURGRING and i still can't drive in a f****g game like this man :)) i hope one day i will be there with misha for a lap
CHAD AUDI DRIVER
Nice driving as always, the s4 pushes it really, really hard/aggressively in the corners, but not a word from Misha about that nonchalant spider passing by at the little carousel. Misha is not the slowest. Very impressive how Porsche made a convertible so easy to drive and capable of these speeds and handling :O
Y de pronto.. aparece un Cupra
Y pronto desaparece.......
@@sanmiguel4019 😂😂😂
Seeing Misha having fun on the Ring is the best thing on the world!
You just taking it easy today Misha, short shifting at 7k. Unless maybe the owner asked you too. Either way nice driving. Seems like a very well set up car.
That German engineering is no joke, my buddy’s had a 2014 S4 and now he’s got a 2019 S4, both cars could eat through corners like nothing. Quattro is insane
I met this Audi driver several times on Easter Sunday, once in this lap for example, when he nearly caused a collision with overheated & smoking brake: th-cam.com/video/X0ihPhrY4Ps/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mvN9SduUKYZ9cNEt&t=230 (starting at position). Dangerous driver though I have to say he is sending it absolutely on the edge.
this makes me love my b5 even more lol always wanted to bring mines on the green hell. Great driving as per usual Misha! def. one of my fav. laps
I noticed a lot of early shifting, was the Subaru not making more power above 7000 rpm? Just curious! Was awesome to watch.
That was an epic bit of racing by both yourself and the talented s4 driver....awesome to watch! 🙂
If the S4 is 330 HP, Subie doesn't have 315
Reminded me a bit of getaway in stockholm 2 video, the way the Audi driver is driving. Good video that too, if you haven't seen it, guys. Thanks.
Great video, albeit very illegal driving 😅