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Six years ago, I switched from Canon to Olympus and landed on some of the OMD em10 Mark II series. Since then, the rest has been history. I have invested in pro lenses, and now I’m using my m1- Makk II for professional work. Thank you, Rob; you have been a top-notch TH-camr all these years.
Thanks. I try.
Thanks for taking time in making this video Rob. It really helps in arriving at a decision.
Glad I can help. Thanks.
Thank you Rob #olympus #robtek! I ordered the M1 Mark II (directly from Olympus as I have been with them since the late 1990s) due to the information on your video. I am of German decent and I like solid. Also the professional even if older would help me do stuff I could not with my M10. I loved finding you and this review. Wish I could take you to our local coffee shop but will send you a coffee anyway. Will love following you as you are so practical as well as detailed. God bless.
Thanks, Deborah! Glad to help.
Very to the point, I bought em1 mkii because of better grip for 12-100 and bigger battery 👌🏼
Thanks Rob.
Thanks, Perrier.
Very much after the event, but thank you for this. For me it really comes down to what I'm using it for. When I'm travelling, the lighter weight and much smaller size of the EM5, paired with the 14-150 (not a Pro lens but excellent) covers just about every eventuality and wins the choice, and unless you're shooting absolutely everything you see, the battery lasts all day. Not bothered about the lack of grip - that would negate the size advantage. When I'm closer to home, on a dedicated shoot or with a specific aim, the extra customisation and easy of grip on the EM1 makes it the choice.
Thanks for your input!
Thanks for posting this Rob,one point that I read some where and seemed pretty valid was its highly unlikely the big O is going to provide any more firmware updates for the emll or at least anything significant something to consider. Good luck on the repair hopefully it doesn't fall into the $240 plus shipping flat rate like my last repair.
Yeah, their last update was pretty significant so not sure what else they can add at this point. It's really perfect now!
You are the best at explaining these things. I'm happy with my EM1 Mark II, but if I were making a purchasing decision today, your explanations would help, that's why I refer people to your videos when they ask me about what I might do. It's subjective. The cameras are great, anyway.
Thanks. I try to get past the specs and talk about the real differences to real people.
Very helpful comparison! Yup- already have the 12-40mm pro lens; so your comments really help! Thx!
Thanks.
I found my way back to Olympus six months ago, first buying the E-M5 Mark III and then the PEN-F. I love both cameras because of their capabilities, but above all because of the small size of the camera and lenses. I've looked at the E-M1 Mark II and the newer models, but they're just too heavy for me. Thanks for your interesting videos. Without it I would have had a harder time getting around (and certainly never bought the PEN-F 😂).
Grip, Battery, Focus Stacking, USB C, price. Just setting up my new EM1ii. I love the snap of the mechanical shutter. The one feature I wanted was BT "live" GPS tagging, but that said, I actually like the OI Track app with it's exclusion zones - this is very useful for me.
I did have an issue with updating the firmware to 3.x on a windows 10 PC - had to use my mac, and all wen't well. I actually think the menus are better on the Oly than Sony a7 from my perspective.
The EM1 fits my hands, my brain and my personal needs like a glove. Happy to be back in the fold.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I had trouble with one of my PC's too, but updated fine on another. Weird.
Was just watching this again Rob and had to laugh when you mention throwing (but not on purpose) the camera across the street because my first thought was those killer bee's with knives where headed your way. lol!
Haha! Thanks.
Thanks Rob, I appreciate the video compare. Even though I have the E-M5 II and the E-M1 II, I may yet decide to purchase the E-M5 III to use as my backpacking camera. As you pointed out though, I'll probably stick with smaller "Premium" lenses because my 12-100 Pro is really large and heavy on the E-M5 II :-) for trail carry...
Thanks. yes, that 12-100 is perfect optically and has the "right" range, just so bulky!
I purchased a second EMii as my back-up, then all my settings are the same and I can have two lenses fitted all the time, thus reducing the need to change lenses and therefore reducing dust ingress when in the field. The EM1 Mkii prices have come down and you can pick up a new one for as little as $1200 now.
Thanks a lot for the comparison. Useful as always...
Thanks.
Nice video Rob. I have the grip for the E M 5 MKIII and it works great. The battery life is not great so I bought a few extra batteries.
Thanks. Yes, I really love my e-m5iii with 3rd party grip and a couple of spare batteries. No other camera offers all the features in as small a package.
Nice comparison and overview. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Rob, just got a smokin' deal on a used E-M1 ii with the 12-40 pro. I've tried them for a couple of days and I'm super-happy. I could have gone with the em5 iii, but used prices on the em1 ii have fallen way below the em5 iii's new and used prices. Now, it's a no-brainer! Also, it's probably the supirior camera. I think the price variation is due to either some people upgrading to the em1 iii or "getting scared" over recent news. The guy who sold me mine upgraded to the em1x, but his em1 ii was still running the original firmware! I guess some people just don't inquire about their camera or care. Anyway, this will be my system moving forward.
Congrats on your new camera! It's awesome. Always fun to find a good deal. Makes it that much sweeter!
@@RobTrek It was 800 euros (delivered) with the 12-40 f2.8. Couldn't pass it up. Only had 8500 clicks on it and a little bit of wear.
Great Video Rob, are you covering up the logos for a reason? Or are they some sort of weather proofing? I think I am moving up to the EM 1 mk ii, best bang for the buck or maybe save a bit more and get the MK III. Not sure yet. Thanks again
I felt like making the cameras as mundane as possible for street shooting. I've since removed all the tape as it really doesn't matter. However, it does keep the white lettering nice and new..
Very helpful, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Rob, very helpful comparison - thank you for that.
I just got an E-M1 II for testing. There are few things I am worrying about. 1. EVF: they use a LCD instead of OLED, very low constrast. All blacks are grey. Bright spots illuminate darker areas around. I compared with an E-m10II, which has a much better EVF (OLED). 2. Too soft shutter button. Almost impossible to feel the point "before" exposure. 3. Big and heavy for M43.
I had a E-M5 III in my hands. The material feel very cheap, no doubt about sealing and durablity. Hard to by buy a plastic camera for 1200€.
The plastic doesn't bother me, but I understand. There is currently a $200 price drop here in the USA on the E-M5III. Maybe wait for the E-M1 Mark III. See if it comes with the OLED and better feel on the shutter button. It's also supposed to be a bit lighter too. The E-M10 IV shouldn't be far behind. Since you have a great camera already, no rush.
@@RobTrek Thanks for your quick reply! I compared the EFV in dark light situation e.g. night shots. The OLED of my E-M10 II shows (without Liveview boost) some details like stars etc. The LCD of the much more expensive shows: nothing! Even with boost the EFV is a step back. And, very annoying: they use the same low res low contrast in the E-M1 Mark III.
Nice comparison Rob, appreciated. At the moment I am torn between buying the EM5 iii, the EM1 ii, the Fuji X-S10 or the Nikon Z50. I already have a Nikon D7500 plus 9 f-mount lenses and I photograph/film mostly wildlife. The D7500 is great for stills but a real pain to handle for video due to mirror etc, and the 4K is cropped by an extra 1.5X. I think the Olympus options are appealing for wildlife because of the lenses such as the new 100-400mm f5-6.3; it's weather-resistant and you can use T.C's on it too! It's a tough choice.
For wildlife I'd definitely recommend the EM1 ii for it's grip, much longer battery life, and better pro-capture mode. It's also more durable. As for the other cameras, I'm sure you've already done your due diligence. That said, I'd probably skip the z50 for lack of affordable lens choices. For the fujifilm, it lacks pro capture and a little bit of reach at the same focal lengths although you'll probably get better low light performance since you're probably keeping your shutter speeds up. Hope that helps.
I just bought the EM5 Mk3 after using an EM10 mk2 and EM1 Mk1 for a few years. As much as I like the handling of the EM1, I travel a lot for work and the smaller size of the EM10 travels much better. The EM5 gives me the form factor of the EM10 with most of the features of the EM1. I've also heard a reviewer complain about the use of the older design BLS-50 battery, but for me, the battery compatibility with the EM10 is a huge plus.
Yes, I'm very happy they switched to the BLS-50 battery. Not only does it help those of us upgrading from the EM10 and have a bucket full spare batteries, but also the few of us who use the dummy batteries for continuous power. One less accessory to buy.
Good point about the battery for the EM10 ii. It's a useful fact that kind of makes me attracted to the EM5 iii. Plus those batteries are pretty small so spares are compact to carry.
Great review. Very helpful. Just 1 question...I am going on a cross-country bicycle trip this spring and wondering if the E-M1 Mark 2 would be too large. I have not seen one in person (and the only pro camera shop where I live does not carry Olympus) What is the size, say in relation to a Nikon F3?
Thanks. I have xl hands so the M5 is not an option.
It's a little smaller than the F3 and 126 grams lighter. The grip is much better. Pair it with at 12-45 f/4 pro lens and I think you'll have an excellent combination. Watch this video where I did a close up detail of the handling: th-cam.com/video/XoaZo1wDfBg/w-d-xo.html
Good review, lots of details. Thank you!
Thank you!
I was waiting to buy the EM5.3. I am upgrading from my Pen F because I really need better AF. However I am really not happy with the EM5.3. So I have decided to buy the EM1.2. Going to wait until February after I am officially retired and have all that worked out.
Really can't go wrong either way. Congrats on retirement!
Hey Rob, wow, you have so many videos now, well done. I'm just thinking to upgrade and just wondering the em 5 mark 3 or the "other one" if I can afford...? What is the recording time limit on both at 4K 30fps? Thanks in advance. Also a new sub here.
Thanks. They both have 30min limit in video regardless of format.
Hi Rob,
Great vid as usual! Just wondering what your thoughts on the EM5III with the 17mm f1.8 as a street camera vs. the EM1II. I want to upgrade from the EM1 I to either the EM1 II or EM5 III and enjoy street shooting. I like using the 17mm because of its size and weight. Thanks.
I personally enjoy the em5-iii for street. My last vlog I used the 17mm and em5-iii for night street photography and loved it. The smaller size of the 17mm is a perfect match for the em5-iii and I don't think you'll miss the grip on your em1. However, the screen is a fully articulating vs tilt, so you need to consider that in your decision. The main advantage of the em5-iii or em1-ii is the ability to focus in much darker scenes. Otherwise, I don't really see a need to upgrade unless you want to start vlogging as well.
I have the 5.3 with the 15mm Leica f1.7 and its a great package for street. Most people won't recognise it as a serious camera. I feel more secure with this size, don't like too much attention.
Great info. Thanks a lot !
Glad it was helpful!
I really like the size of the E-M5 Mark III. I have the Mark II and use the 12-40 most of the time. With that lens the grip of the Mark II is just not good enough for comfortable use. So I attach the optional grip.
It seems, from the video, like the E-M5 Mark III has a good enough grip for the 12-40. Think I must try it myself in the shop.
It's a little better grip, but I'd still recommend an optional one.
@@RobTrek Thanks for the advise. Seems I should wait a bit for a nice cheap second hand E-M1 Mark II. I think a lot will be on sale when the E-M1 Mark III hit's te stores.
Dear Rob. I am looking to buy an MFT camera. I have zeroed in on the Olympus EM1 Mk2 12 to 40 pro or Panasonic G9 with 12 to 60 f2.8-4. Which one will give me better subject tracking AF accuracy?
I might go in for the 12 to 100 pro along with a 17mm and 45mm f1.8 for evenings instead of the 12 to 40 pro should I decide to buy the Olly.
Please I would really appreciate your opinion on this.
Thanks.
Love your thorough videos.
I like the grip of the Em1 mk2 and the G9. I haven't used them because of the pandemic. It's hard to get your hands on them.
I don't have the G9 so can't comment on the subject tracking. I can tell you the subject tracking on the EM1 Mk2 is awful. Most users default to 5 point C-AF and track manually. The AF speed, pro-capture feature, and superb lenses from Olympus still make it an excellent choice. As for lenses, if you get the Em1ii, the 12-100 with a couple of primes makes the most sense. Although the 12-100 is one of the best, I don't like it's size/weight. I prefer the 12-40pro. If I need something longer, I'll bring a 75mm prime or 40-150mm.
Hi Rob, I'm thinking about getting the Olympus ECG-5 Grip for the EM5 III. Have you used it at all , and if so are your thoughts?
Yes, I tried it a few times but decided against it. It does feel great and gives you a high level of confidence when holding the camera and doesn't add much weight. If you occasionally use larger lenses it's a must have. However, it doesn't have an arca swiss plate on the bottom so I ruled it out. I often mount my camera on a tripod and don't want to have to carry a spare plate with me so it's nice to have built into the grip's base.
Thanks for the info. I went ahead and ordered one since that is the only grip available.
I just made this exact decision, I ended buying the EM1 ll. Very helpful video! I have read some concerns with the tripod mount being weak, on the EM5 lll. Have you heard anything on this?
I've only seen one report that got spread around to look like the problem might be worse that it actually is. That said, a plastic body is not going to have the same strength as a metal body. Regardless of material, I always buy a full bottom plate grip to distribute the weight. That way the lens mount will probably break before the tripod mount.
Hi. Would the Panasonic 12-60 2.8-4 be ok on the M5 mark 111? I’m looking for a lightweight weather sealed camera and I’m interested in this lens.
It should work great on the Mark III. You may lose some features like focus stacking, but for general photography no issues.
I love your informative videos, Rob. I just upgraded my MFT collection with an E-M5 Mk III. The main reason I chose this camera over the E-M1 Mk III is the battery. That may sound a bit odd, but my other Olympus MFT cameras- the E-M10 Mk I, the (2) E-PM2, and the E-PL1- can all use the same battery, the BLS-5 or 50. Although the E-PL1 originally came with the BLS-1 battery, it can also use the newer BLS-5 and 50 batteries. And the other main reason: my E-510 was my favorite camera for many years. It, and my E-330, fit my hand perfectly. My E-M10 Mk I was way too small, rectified a bit with the ECG-1 grip, and now my E-M5 MkIII is almost perfect with the ECG-5 grip. Oh, and I also think this combination is perfectly balanced with my other recent purchase, the 12-40mm f2.8 lens! I hope this will be the last camera I ever need to buy! Olympus is dead, long live Olympus!
Thanks for sharing your experience. I can see the benefit of having the same battery fit multiple bodies. Congrats on your new em5.3 and lens. It's a great combo!
@@RobTrek Oh, I forgot. I wanted to ask, why did you tape over the Olympus name on the cameras in your video? I am sad that, after the new OM-1, no camera will ever again bear the Olympus name!
@@bsuthe At the time, I wanted to make the cameras more discreet for street photography. I've since abandoned that idea.
A nice summary.
In Australia for me the price of the EM5.3 is too close to the EM1.2 to consider the EM5.3 unless you really needed the smaller camera. But to me the size difference is not that big. But I am guessing that when the EM1.3 comes out the price difference will be greater.
It's interesting the price and kit combination differences around the world. The current sales make the choice even harder, but I decided not to compare pricing here as they are pretty close even at list.
HI ROB
Hey what was that Little Neat Looking LENS You Had on The SMALLER EM5 MK III?
THANKS In Advance :-)
I believe it was the Olympus 17mm f/1.8
A lot of people are saying look at the em1 2 but as you pointed out they are very different cameras.
I have small hands and a wimpy body so light weight is high on the list.
Also the form factor I want small to tuck away not a massive box.
The only thing to mention is that the pro lenses are the only lens that has the weather sealing which is going to add price but more important weight.
So the 50gm saving helps to cut this down on top of the smaller camera size in the first place.
PS you also look like a good friend of mine.
Thanks. You and I are on the same page. Hopefully the Olympus Lens roadmap with smaller weather sealed f/4 lenses pans out and they don't cost an arm and a leg.
@@RobTrek This is the right one me thinks
ED 25mm F1.2 PRO
just seen come camera footage in a wales cave on London camera exchange and they used 2.8 and it was amazing. so 1.2 be cool for my video requirements and indoor server rooms.
Hey Rob. What about someone who may be upgrading from the original four thirds is the difference between phase detect and contrast detect. I have the Olympus E620 and I later bought the the EM 10 mark 2 based on your recommendation. And I love this little EM 10 mark 2 but the focusing was in and out with my old four thirds lenses. So I bought a used EM 1 Mark 1. I use the EM 1 for landscape and hiking. I use the EM 10 mark 2 when travelling. I too am a big fan of Olympus and I just started with a couple of the old OM lenses. Keep up the good work. Neil.
Hi. I don't have the 4/3 lenses, but I did ask the Olympus Rep about using those lenses on the em1-ii and em5-iii. He said they work great, for what it's worth. Maybe check hout the mu-43.com forums, I'm sure many have tried it with the em1-ii by now.
Thanks Rob. Another key advantage to the OMD EM1 ii is its use with larger lenses. The EM5 iii is maxed out with the 12-40mm lens. if one is going to use any of the longer lenses, e.g. the 12-100mm pro then the EM1 is clearly the way to go
Stephen Cohen same as I found. I tried the 12-100 and it felt unbalanced. The 12-40 is a good match
Yes, the 12-40 is about the limit I'd want to carry. Hopefully the new line of f/4 zoom lenses mitigate the gap in the current lineup.
Disagree. I have used the Leica 50-200 on a GM-5 body without any problem
I find the 12-40mm f/2.8 is great on the EM10 Mark ii. So is the 75mm f/1.8 but they are probably about the limiting size. The smaller cameras feel so good with the small primes and look just right with the 17mm, 25mmand 45mm f/1.8 s.
You SAID That The EM1 MARK II Handle Alone Stores X2 Batteries.,.=Made it Sound Like X2 In Handle & 3rd In Camera? SO X3 Batts TOTAL is That Correct?
THANK You ROB
Sorry if I misspoke. One in the grip, one in the camera. So two batteries total.
I'm curious why you prefer the E-M5 M3 over the PEN-F as your walking around camera?
At the time I used the E-M5 M3 for vlogging and photos, so it was easier to carry just one camera. Right now I'm shooting the PenF and vlogging with an insta360 R action cam.
Hi Rob. I'm Jason, a hobbyist and have been shooting Olympus for 2 years now. I mostly shoot events on my own accord and recently I have been invited to shoot for my friend's wedding. My current gears are: E-M1 II, 12-100 f4, 25 f1.2 and 45 f1.8. Would you think E-M5 III would be good for my secondary camera? What lens do you think can be added to my kit? Would appreciate you could give me some advice. *Support from Singapore :) TIA!
I would get another E-M1 Mark II for the dual card slots. As for lenses, the 40-150mm f/2.8 would be a good addition for event type photography.
I bought a new E-M1 Mk2 a couple of months ago for the bargain price of £620 including taxes in the UK, which is less cost than the E-M5 Mk3. I love it and use it much more than the Sony A7 Mk3 which I also own. Its not the feature set so much but the handling I think that makes me prefer it. The Sony does, after all, have a remarkable auto-focus system, amazing low light/high ISO performance and a really useful minimum and maximum shutter speed adjustment that is easy to use. Yet it is the Olympus that I prefer using. To top it all, I could have bought three E-M1 for the price of one A7 3 body. The body may well be out of production and they are clearing old stock, but I'm a very happy bunny and the camera is brilliant with the current firmware, which has been updated with new features over several years, which has kept it very competitive.
Once I held the em1-ii in my hands, I knew it was the right camera. Thanks for sharing your experience.
here in canada, both bodies are selling for exactly same price CAD$1200, which one should i get? is there a difference in software in em5m3? like eye autofocus and other things? is it better than em1m2, is the software on em5m3 is better than em1m2? please suggest.
I'd recommend the em1m2 if you're not sure which one to get. More features, better build quality, exactly the same performance in AF and image quality.
Good to know, that also E-M5 III can speed up RAW processing with Olympus workspace.
(but currenty I am on vacation and did not bring the right cable, so I am not able to use it)
There is only USB2 as far as I know .. so I was afraid.
But you did not mention 1 difference, where E-M5 III is better: there is OLED viewfinder
(not simple TFT, which means better contrast and not "visible pixels")
I also notice, that sensor may have little better DR, according to dpreview testing
(also E-M1X sensor was better in "exposure latitude", but reviewers wrote it may be due to possible different Adobe NR)
I don't think the E-M5 III will speed up raw in workspace. Yes, the evf is nicer in the EM5-III. Adobe raw processing is a moving target and so are firmware updates that might affect raw files. Thanks. -Rob
How hard would it have been to remove the Arca plate from the E-M1ii? It's clearly a larger camera, but not by as much as it appears with the plate.
Not hard but I use double sided tape between the plate and the camera so I didn't want to have to reapply it. It tends to tear whenever I remove the plate.
I would go with the em5, because my em5 mk1 gives me what my Canon 7d can't and that's fun. It's lightweight, easy to carry everywhere. Choosing the em 1 would bring back that big and serious feel...
That pretty much sums it up for me too! Thanks.
Hey Rob - just curious why you have the Olympus logo blacked out on the EM-5?
I put black tape on my cameras to make the more "mundane" and less intimidating for my street photography.
@@RobTrek Hmm.. I never thought about it... The only other time i've seen it is when reviewers are out and aren't supposed to let me know what they are shooting (new stuff).. Most americans don't know what Olympus is anyhow.. lol but I actually think it looks pretty cool. I'd like it even more if they changed the white to a really dark grey? where it's there, but not really there? who knwos. Great video! I think I'm going to get the EM-1 Mark 2 for christmas.
@@SonnyCrackBeats Dark grey would be cool! Someone said they saw the em1-ii for $1099 at best buy. Check it out!
Thanks Rob, feeling much better about my recent EM1 MKII purchase.
Great! It's a fantastic camera.
I was a little worried with mine right up until I printed some 11x14's and 12x12's via Costco and Walgreens. AMAZING image quality.....hanging on my wall. The reason I'm thinking about the 1ii or 5iii is that little extra IBIS.
@@BMRTV Thanks for sharing. The ibis in the em5iii is good if you want to hand hold shots longer than 1 second.
Dioes the EM1 Mark II have the flicker reduction which the EM5 is suppose to be so good at?
Yes. It has the standard 50hz/60hz setting plus two Flicker Scan functions for photo and video.
I got the EM1.2 Last year when the EM5.3 first came out. No brainer for me. It was the grip.
Solid choice! Thanks.
Hey Rob. Currently, I can get the EM 1 mk ii for $100 less than the EM 5 mk iii. With this pricing, which would you recommend? Please note that I am not a pro, just a hobbyist. BTW, I already have the EM 10 mk ii. Thanks.
I would get the e-m1-ii. It will offer you a distinctly different experience with Olympus, particular the handling and feel. Even though the e-m5-iii is newer, it doesn't really offer anything over the e-m1-ii and will be very similar to the e-m10-ii in terms of feel and handling. If compactness is your priority, the e-m5-iii is a substantial upgrade in af and features over the e-m10ii. Personally I take my e-m5-iii out more than my e-m1-ii for it's smaller size. But I have the luxury of having both. If I had to pick one, i'd go with the em1-ii.
@@RobTrek Thanks for the prompt reply and the good advice. Take care.
Already owning a full frame Pentax K-1 I needed a light weight travel camera and decided on the om-d m5 iii ! Very light weight and full of features !! Why should I go for the m1 ii or iii ? Only more weight and heavier lenses !!
Pentax K1, nice. But yeah, E-M5 III is my go to camera.
Hey @robtrek is that the 75mm f1.8 on the em 1 mark ii?
Yes. I misspoke when I said 75-300mm.
@@RobTrek That is a phenomenal lens and it is the only lens left for me to buy 😊
I also noticed this 😊
Hi Rob. I'm using em5 mark ii and now want to switch to em5 mark3 or em1 mark ii. I usally insterest landscapes and travel photography. Which one dou you suggest me? Thank you.
I'd probably go with the em5-iii for the smaller size/weight. Most likely you're not using large lenses as landscape is like wide angle f/5.6+ material. For travel, the smaller body with fast f/1.8 primes is ideal.
@@RobTrek Exactly true, im using laowa 7.5 for wide angle. Thanks for comment.
Thanks very much for your demo. Aw, man, camera decisions again lol. I have been a point and shoot guy and with my Sony with it's Zeiss lens, have taken some great shots and I love the portability but I need to up my game. I tried a Canon DSLR but found I was getting better shots with my Sony and it was somewhat big and clunky and I sold it. It was a lower level Canon. I like the idea of video but I also like the idea of longer battery life as countless times I have missed great shots due to the camera shutting down from an exhausted battery. I'm also on a bit of budget. Do I get a used MK11 or pop for a new MK111? Uhg.
I know how you feel. I like the new features in the MKiii. On a budget though, the MKii is awesome. I've seen them for $999 refurbished. Shop around until you get that deal and you will have no regrets.
Thanks very much, Rob. I appreciate your advice.
Was debating between these two and went with EM1MKII. Was hoping EM5MKIII can do live charging while shooting, which should help for timelapse or livecomp until I heard it needs to be turned off while charging. So I went with EM1MKII for longer battery capacity. Another reason was I assume the shutter in EM1MKII would have longer lifespan since it's their pro grade camera, I could be wrong though. Have around 90,000 shutter count on Pen F and already feel it's not as "bouncy" as when I just got it, so hopefully will last longer for EM1MKII. Still miss the dedicate exposure compensation dial on the Pen F though. (Which also start having problem on Pen F, when just turn the Pen F on, sometimes it would go -0.7EV even when EV dial is at zero. Just have to turn the dial somewhere and turn it back to zero to fix it...)
You made the right decision. You should easily go 2 hours in a timelapse. There are also come dummy batteries available for external power banks. I'm not having any issues with my penf, but I think I'm only around 42k in shutter count.
Great vid and very informative. Wondering how you blacked out the lettering on your em1 mark ii?
I just used electrical tape.
@@RobTrek so simple. Thanks
I found an EM1 2 for the same price as the EM5 3. It was a no brainer. I got the EM1. I will buy the EM5 at some point to replace my original EM5.
Always nice to have choices! Congrats on the EM1.2. It's a fantastic camera.
You also mentioned in a live stream that the E-M5 III does not have focus stacking? I am just amazed by that and do not understand why Olympus would do that. Only focus bracketing?
My mistake! The E-M5 Mark III does have in-camera focus stacking. I had an incompatible lens on the camera when I tried it and missed it completely!
Thanks for the clarification. That’s great news
Rob Trek I really want olympus to add image stacking. If you shoot landscapes it pretty well negates any potential noise issues when pushing it above 6400
Another great video and thanks Rob~ so the E-M1 is for professional and the E-M5 is a walkabout.. how would you differentiate the E-M10 tho?.. apart from not being weather sealed i think you could equip it with a battery grip~
The em10-ii is an awesome camera and the best value in my opinion. For less than half the price of the em5 and em1, you get 90% of the functionality for most photography. The other 10% can mostly be overcome with skill or software.
@@RobTrek agree~ the price of the em10-ii is tempting but it lacks a feature which i'm very interested to upgrade into.. that's the hi-res mode since my interests are still life/ architectural & landscape photography (i'm aware of the focus stacking technique but its not exactly the same) ..do you find hi-res mode useful?
@@kevinlui8601 Not really. I've made a few decent efforts and not too impressed. I did a video on it. th-cam.com/video/1FgNlQSordU/w-d-xo.html
Is there a way to connect those cameras directly to a pc whilst filming or taking photos so that they save directly to the pc?
Yes. For video you need this: HDMI to USB Capture amzn.to/2HtEFuU For photos, the E-M1 II will tether via the usb. You'll need the tether software from Olympus app.olympus-imaging.com/olympuscapture/en/ for best control, but other software like Lightroom and Capture One may directly tether as well.
@@RobTrek Is this software from Olympus also compatible with the EM 5 Mark III ?
I couldn't swing the E-M5 III yet but I got my wife the E-M10 III. I am confident in the quality of build even if the E-M5 III is more plastic because of how more refined the E-M10 III is over the mark II and it too went all plastic. Like for example, the power button and d-pad is more dampen when it clicks, the dials look and feel better and the grip is a bit thicker which feels much better with the 14-150mm lens.
However the menu options are simplified and some manual features are now more automatic. I hate it but my wife likes it because the Advance Photo mode on the dial makes it easier for her to do live comp, HDR and multi exposure. AF Targeting Pad works much better too. The D-pad you can't customize but it's labeled with what each arrow does. The two things I don't really like is you can't manually select and adjust silent mode and you can't adjust the histagram settings. I understand why they took away the option of silent mode except in an auto Advanced Photo mode because this is more of a beginner's camera and people generally don't understand light frequencies and how to control banning on the photos but Olympus should have allowed to unlock that feature in the super control panel. I don't understand why they took away the histagram adjustment because I set it between 10-245 and if someone is using a histogram, they will understand what that adjustment is. Sorry for my long amount of details.
Has some of those features spilled over on the E-M5 III? lack of silent mode in super control panel and no adjustment of the histagram?
Thanks for sharing as I don't own the em10-iii and the info is helpful for all. The e-m5-iii has access to histogram and silent shutter for all modes. I'll do a side by side menu deep dive soon em1ii vs em5iii.
@@RobTrek that I look forward to watching.
Does em 5 have built in flash and usb charging?
The EM5-III has usb charging only, no built in flash.
I personally would prefer the E-M5 MkIII + grip, because I prefer the longer eyerelief of the viewfinder. I also prefer the softened shutter.
The grip costs 199€ here in germany and you need more accus with this camera.
So actually the E-M1 Mk II costs LESS money, has longer accu life and lower accu cost and has tethering with Olympus capture.
Because I cannot clearly decide, I buy nothing until I get a very good offer, maybe used with warranty. ;-)
I'd lean towards the eye relief of the em5-iii. However, if you do pro work in studio, the tethering can be more important. Tough call.
It is a tough call, which is the reason I am also still holding on. With the additional grip, the em-5 has virtually the same grip than the em-1, with the added benefit that you can take it off when you don't need it. In Italy it would still costs 100 euros less than the em-1 (1200+200 vs 1500). The wisest thing is probably to wait a few months and try to get a deal on the em-5
@@RobTrek I use the camera private as a hobby for recreation mostly in nature on a walk, and to shoot ebay stuff closeup on the table. Tethering is quite useful for the latter, I still have an E-M1.1 (which I bought used) which supports it.
Normally I use the 12-40 and the Panasonic 100-300 and some manual lenses.
I also plan to get the Olympus 400mm f6.3 Zoom, when it is available, and for this the grip could be useful, but I dont know yet.
0:44 75mm f/1.8 on the EM10 Mark ii. I have both those lenses in those colours too.
Cool.
The sensor in all olympus cameras until the om-1 is the same since a long time ago ,is that true?
I have an em-5 ii ,does the more modern olympus cameras like the em-1 iii have significantly better AF?
I need a second body and logically another em-5 ii makes sense but i wonder about getting a em-1 model if it gives better results as in images.
I take wildlife,captive animals and woodland as well as wild flower images.
When i get a chance i will look at an om-1 as i got hold of a leica SL2 in a camera shop and the amazing EVF blew my mind! so curious to see if the olympus EVF is similar?
I recommend the E-M1 Mark II as the best value. It has much better AF than the E-M5 II and a newer 20mp sensor. It focuses much better in low light and has a much bigger buffer for continuous shooting. Some don't like the EVF in the E-M1, so you need to try it for yourself.
Skip the E-M1 Mark III and go for the OM-1. It is a significant improvement over the Mark III in every way. The EVF is excellent in the OM-1 and you can use all your current lenses. I'm not familiar with the SL2. Hope that helps. -Rob
@@RobTrek Thanks,it helps a lot.
I have Pen F and my next camera will be E-M1 Mark II. Thank you Rob for reviewing.
Love the PenF! You'll really like the EM1, but it's not as sexy or inspiring.
Just wait for the em1 m3
Have you bought EM1 Mark ii ? How is it ?
I have had both and enough of a chance with the mklll to down an opinion. The most lll is lighter that the ll by a enough to notice. The issue is balance with lens.
The lll is fine with the smaller lens and it’s starts to get borderline wirh the 12-100. The 40-150 and the 300 forget it. They only I use in the em1mkll. I look at the 5mklll as a better em10mklll. It has a few quirks that you hit upon that I hope will be addressed in firmware updates.
Not a good idea if you use 3rd party batteries in body as some have been reported to swell in charging. Not really an issue if charging outside the body but inside the body could be a big problem
Thanks. You and I are on the same page with the lenses. The swelling is caused by heat. An original battery has a temp sensor (that 3rd pin) to change the charging rate based on battery temp. 3rd party batteries have a "dummy" 3rd pin that reports the battery is not overheating, hence the charging rate stays at full strength causing the battery to overheat.
I bought a E-M5 mkiii, but decided to trade in to E-M1 MKii
The major reason is the heat accumulates fast while taking pictures but the plastic body could not cool down the heat in time. After taking about 30 50 pictures, the grip became quite hot (like 40 to 45c) which wasn't the case for original E-M5.
Although the CAF is way much better than the original E-M5, I just hate the warm feeling and decided to trade in it.
But the weight increase.....It is tough call. Why not just build a metal version!
You're not alone on making a metal E-M5 III. I never notice mine getting that hot.
I am just need the standard features, I do not do video except a rare short clip and do not need the full ranfe if fast shutter shooting. To me the E M5 mk3 was a no brainer, the only disadvantage being smaller battery, but I can leave ghe camera in my bag chargin on a powerbank. A great upgrade from mk2. Very happy wigh mk3. Will not suit everyone I realise. Great video thanks.
Thanks, Donald. I love my all my Olympus cameras but the E-M5 Mk3 is my everyday camera.
I had a EM1 Mark II for 4 years and recently upgraded to the Mark III. The EM1 fits my hand like a glove and is much better balanced. I don't think the EM1 is much bigger and heavier, considering the so much better handling, I would go with the EM1
Yeah, really not much difference, especially since I added a grip to my e-m5 iii. It's still smaller and lighter, but the trades offs are significant.
Thankyou for your none bias view ( your not an Olympus visionary whatever that is or sponsored by them.) of the omd 5 mk3 and 1mk2 comparison. I am torn between getting the new 5 mk3 or a omd 1 mk2 second hand with firmware 3 upgrade because I cannot afford a new one , now I'm certain I'll get the omd 1.... or new 5 mk3... doh .?
I hope I hit on the major differences in the video, but if you have any other questions let me know. If you're upgrading, either camera will provide better AF, Low Light AF, faster shutters, and marginally better iso performance.
I already have an EM10 iii so want to get the EM1 ii or iii as a second body for bigger lenses - my only concern is - would the grip be too big? I have very small hands. Size 6 gloves uk. Not much bigger than child hands! Anyone with small hands used one?
I have very small hands as well, though I'm not sure what size 6 is in the UK. In the USA, my hands almost fit a men's small size glove, so that's what I usually get. The grip on the EM1 II or III is good. The OM-1 is just a bit large for me.
@@RobTrek Thanks. I guess I need to see one and try it.
@@RobTrek I had actually decided on the EM5 iii but a bit put off by reports of the tripod bush issues and base plate cracking as I wanted to use an arca swiss attachment. Any tips on that? ie how to prevent it? does it need a special base plate?
Forget that! I just saw your other video about base plates and grips.
I guess I need to go look at the em5 III. Honestly, I was a little disappointed when this camera was released. But, you’ve given positive reviews and I value your opinion. $1200 for a plastic m43 seems outrageous... I was holding off to upgrade from em1 to em5 III, and I know it would be a marked improvement, but plastic???
If you have the em1 - mark i, I'd recommend you get the em-1ii as the prices now are lower than the em5-iii. You may have to shop around. Otherwise, might be worth the wait for the em1-iii and see what it brings. I think the plastic build on the em5-iii might never feel right to you. The only reason to upgrade from the em-1 mark i is really for sports/action speed and af.
Nice review Rob. For me - as you perfectly describe - even if the 2 cameras are very similar in technical capabilities they are really different in handling. On my side as I use large lenses (12-60 Leica - 42.5 Leica - 75 mm Olympus) I prefer the om1m2. But true that for people using 17mm or 45mm it could be a very good combination with the om5 m3. Last point not the least there are a lot of om1 m2 used around 600-700 euros and this is fear more cheaper than a brand new om5 m3. Due to the quality of build of the om1 I don t think buying a used one in good shape will impact the durability. And this is what I bought. Have a nice day.
Congrats on the EM1-II. It's an awesome camera and you certainly have a fine collection of lenses to go with it.
I had the EM-5 Mk II and the Mk III doesn't feel "plasticky." On the contrary, it feel every bit as solid - just lighter.
Thanks for your feedback. I really only notice it's plastic when it's cold and it doesn't have the cold metal feel.
Glad I saw this. Excellent A-B of these two cameras. Firmed up my decision.
I was all set to go M1 MkI to M1 MkII - logical step. Then I saw a number of reviews of the M5 MkIII - seemed like +/- the same bang for less bucks. Superb sunny evening here in Normandy, France, so I strolled out with the M1 MkI - and that did it.
I like being able to carry my camera with index finger hovering over the top deck controls while the camera hangs down from the other three, safely hooked round a substantial grip. Used to do it with my Nik D600, also. Not really possible with the M5.
So by the time I'd had a stroll, taken some shots of the blossom coming out here, I'd decided - the grip is a deal-maker and contains a bigger battery as a bonus.
The grip is a big deal! Thanks.
I chose the EM1 II to buy about a few days ago. I think the technology in the camera is valid for a further 5 years.
It's a great camera, John. I hope to get many years of joy from it. Thanks.
How much did you pay for it?
@@iblameabel £750
Considering purchase of factory ( OMS) refurubished OMD E-M-M1- Mk11. Have yet to master my Pen F's , may send some queries may be sent, what would be the most suitable address.
At the moment this Mk 11 is going for a steal price. One item of appeal is the much longer battery life than with my Pen F's ,yes , have purchased several and put a couple in my pocket when setting out. It would be good to have a camera where the battery would just last longer. Also, from what I have seen the EM1 Mk 2 is that it has fastter AF than the pretty slow AF in the Pen F. I have most of the Oly glass that I will need. The EM1 Mk 11 may just get some shots that the Pen F can miss out on with slower AF- however, it would not have been considered if the purchase price was anything like the release price.
Any thoughts, I really do need a 2nd OMD/OMS body to have a 2nd lens attached to most of the time, would probably be the 12-40 2.8 Pro. Am not expecting better images, as such, just some better captured images due to better AF, longer battery life, for a very modest outlay.
Thanks in advance.
If the cost is very modest, I don't see a reason not to get the EM1.2. It's a fantastic camera. You'll love it paired with the 12-40 Pro. As for battery life, be sure to use OEM factory original batteries.
@@RobTrek Many thanks.
Hey Rob as you know I recently sold all my Olympus gear but today I was very tempted by the EM1 Mark II. My local Best Buy is selling them for $1099 new.
That's an amazing deal, but resist!
I saw them online recently for the equivalent of USD $950. Not refurbished not grey imports. That's a bargain.
Thanks for this side by side Rob - really helpful. I've been using a Nikon P7800 for years and have loved it as a hybrid camera for my travel blog (www.therealjapan.com), but it's faltering and dated and needs replacing. I've been waiting on the M5 III for a couple of years, but the plastic build has really put me off, plus the poor battery life. (I've had hands on so I know what it feels like.) I had a Nikon P7700 which was all metal and the P7800 replaced much of it with plastic some buttons of which faltered fairly quickly - hence my worry about the M-5 III.
Anyhow, my main love about the P7800 is its ergonomics: the compact size, built-in (7x) zoom, fully articulating screen. The M-5 III gives me some of this, but I know I won't use any big (or Pro) lenses.
If I did upgrade, the Oly would be my first ILC and I know next to nothing about lenses. I need something compact (ideally pancake style) that can function both for stills and video in travel, street, architecture scenarios and the odd live concert.
Do you think the Olympus 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ on the M-5 III would be a good upgrade from my P7800? (Nikon lens is F2-4, 28-200 equiv zoom.)
I'm also gonna miss my W-T toggle zoom button. Can I assign the zoom control on the 14-42 to one of the M5's buttons or must I use the ring on the lens?
Sorry for all the info and questions but any advice you can give would be much appreciated! Thanks!
Honestly, I just wanted another iteration of the P7800 but that design line ended there. :-(
If you want the features of the em5-iii like great AF and IBIS, then yes. The 14-42 is considerably shorter than the 28-200, so maybe consider the 14-150 instead. That said, Panasonic has some great cameras similar to the p7800. Mabye the lx100-ii or DC-ZS200.
@@RobTrek Thanks. Yes, the AF and IBIS are what make the Olympus cameras so attractive. I was thinking about getting the 14-42 as well as the 14-150 actually, so your recommendation is helpful. I like the LX100 II but I must have an articulating screen - essential for video work!
@@RobTrek is it possible to control zoom lenses (particularly the pancake zoom) from the camera body by assigning buttons to take over, rather than using the zoom ring on the lens??
I have both the EM1 MKII & new EM5 MKIII. I take the EM5 with me pretty much everywhere because of its compact size and weight. I would also take the EM5 if traveling (abroad) for the same reason. If I go out for the day or go away in UK. I would take both. The EM1 with the bigger lenses feels better in the hand. I put a prime on the EM5 and so can quickly swap between cameras rather than swap out a lens - that also reduces exposure of the sensor outdoors. .....If I came across a thief....well I would just whack them with my tripod.....lightweight though it might be. I think it would put a dent in any assailant's head!
LOL. I rarely take a tripod with me anymore. Thanks for sharing. You and I are on the same page with these two cameras!
Thanks for the comparison, I guess the Mark 5 with the 40 -150 lens probably wouldn't work too well.
Not really unless you add the optional grip.
I use a E-M10 II with 40-150 Pro without additional grip. You have to hold the lens with the camera as an attached accessory. Yes, the E-M1 II ist more comfortable, but it impossible to shoot one handed with this kind of lens.
I'm from Indonesia, I want to get em1 mark II, can someone help me get it?? Sir plis
Unfortunately, I won't be able to help you. Try asking over at mu-43.com forums. They are very helpful.
Thanks for all your insights, it helps a lot!
Quick question: I've had my EM5 mkii for 3 weeks and enjoying it (bought 2nd hand with shutter count of 100).
Today was the first time I noticed a sound like "white noise" when half pressing the shutter to focus.
I checked online and people say it is the ibis at work. I switched ibis off and no more noise when focusing..BUT, I've taken a few hundred photos with ibis on, and have never heard the noise before. Why was it silent (or maybe softer) before and now suddenly appeared? Any thoughts? Does your EM5 mkii or other model OMD cameras make the same noise? It's really bugging me now..
Keep up the good work!
Yes, that is the ibis. It's very subtle to me but my hearing is not what it used to be so it doesn't bother me. However, when using an external mic that is attached to the camera hot shoe, it's recommended to use a good shock mount to mitigate that hum.
Thanks Rob, yes I think I only noticed it yesterday, as it was the first time I focused in a very quiet environment! Amazing how much ambient noise there are most of the time, which masks the ibis sound.. Will remember the mic tip when I get to using one! 😉
I have never owned a camera that felt better in my hands than the em1 mark II and I come from Canon, so that is saying a lot. Love the em 5 mark II as well but for long shoots it is just a fraction too small for me.
The grip is really nice! That said, if I didn't have my pro work, I'd get the em5-iii.
I wish they kept M5.2 body and only update relevant hardware.
You're not alone. Many prefer the metal feel and look of the em5.2. Thanks.
I had a play with the EM5iii not to shoot but just to get a feel of, and I'm just disappointed, it just feels plasticky, the little nob on the mode dial, the buttons all just feel a little bit fragile, I'm sure it's great for photos, but the body itself just doesnt give you confidence, I have 2 EM5iis and feel much better about them, considering the price of the 5iii it just doesnt warrant it, with the 1ii only a couple of hundred bucks dearer but to my mind a far superior camera, why would you go for the 5iii? For me the 5iii is a sub $1000 camera
Thanks for sharing. You're not alone on that one. That's why I made a point to express how the em1-ii and it's buttons feel more substantial and quality built over the em5-iii. It can make a difference in the buying decision.
The thing is that the price of EM-1 Mk2 is a little cheaper than EM-5 Mk3 here in Taiwan.
It's a tough sell. Depends on how much you value size/weight vs. features.
I recently took a trip to Istanbul. I had my E-M10.2 with the 12-40mm Pro and the Lumix 20mm f/1.7 pancake lens. It worked like a champ! Using the pancake lens for street photography was, for me, ideal. It's as small as a cell phone and no one paid it any attention. The 12-40 was perfect for cityscapes and architecture. I think the EM5.3 would be even better given the slightly larger grip, 20 MP and the USB charging which eliminates the need for that clunky battery charger. The perfect small and lightweight kit for travel and casual photography. For bigger lenses, events like you said and sports/wildlife I'd recommend the E-M1.2.
Agreed! Seems Olympus knows us well.
I recently purchased an EM I mark II....But the menus....ooooh My God....the menus....Is there a book,besides the manual,that explains how can I understand this lovely camera....?.... Thanks for your help....Regards
I am going to update my channel with the new menus for the EM5 and EM1 soon. In the meantime, you can watch my other video. Many things are the same or very similar. th-cam.com/video/zJGQg7ug_80/w-d-xo.html
@@RobTrek I wish there was a book for the PEN F. I cannot ever get the settings right. MOst frustrating camera I have ever owned.
Juanito, you can download a PDF manual of 100+ pages form Olympus official site. At least in Europe you can, guess the American version is the same. And about the menu - a complicated one on this camera. But I find it pointless to try learn all at once. I use the camera and when cannot find something, I watch a TH-cam video about it :) This channel has some useful videos. There is one Finnish guy, bald with glasses, his channel is useful too. Type Peter and Olympus, it will find it. And 2 or 3 tips I saw from Olympus's channel here on TH-cam. Way less intense to learn like that ;)
@@momchilyordanov8190 ....thanks you a lot for your avises.Regards.
I still don't know why for the same price (or actually about 5-10% now cheaper in Aust.) why you wouldn't buy the E-m1 ii. I think the E-M5 iii is pointless next to the E-m1 ii.
The em5-iii is definitely a tough sell against the em1-ii. That said, the em5-iii suites me better for a vlogging/photo camera.
I went with m1 mark ii 😊 switched from canon 5dmk4 and rp. No regrets! 😊
Great to hear!
I was trying to decide between switching to Sony or upgrading my EM5 mk2. Having used the Sony for 2 months I decided to stick to MFT but I got to like the chunkier body. So I decided to go with the EM1 mk2 rather than upgrade the EM5, purely for that chunkier grip. Great video BTW and those two cameras really are like peas in a pod.
I heard that em5 mark3 have some problems about auto ISO which em1 mark2 doesn't and em5 mark3 can't use as a web camera, but em 5 mark3 has slow motion video recording opportunity for some people it also can be important, to my opinion em1 mark2 is more for professional working and em5 mark3 more for traveling or for every day using outdoors, because this camera is very small and light
Hi. I use the e-m5 iii and have not noticed any problems with the auto-iso. You can use em5-iii as a webcam, you just need an hdmi adapter to usb adaptor. They sell for about $15.
@@RobTrek thank you Rob for quick answer, it's very useful information
I’m bemused by Olympus’ thinking with the EM5 M3 release. In Australia the prices are as follows:
EM5 M2 $999
EM5 M3 $1899
EMI M2 $2199
So clearly the EM5 M3 is not a progression for EM5 M2 users. It’s too expensive for that. It’s almost the same price as the pro-standard EM1 M2, which is a better camera in every way. So what exactly is the projected market for the EM5 M3? Who would buy it? I just don’t get it. I predict it will prove to be an evolutionary dead end.
Hi from WA- yeah, I noticed the weird pricing. I was at digidirect in Perth two weeks ago, fighting some GAS.
The guys in the store reckon the EM5iii is a replacement for the current EM1ii, which I personally believe may be superseded next year by a EM1iii with a 47mp sony sensor.
Time to get the piggy bank out again :-)
@@rodmehta5356 A 47 mp sensor for MFT would mean a pixel pitch of ca 2,18 micrometer compared to the 3,3 of the Mark ii. Conceeding the improvement of the processors abilities the noise behavior will drastically increase. Even if the sensor will be a BSI...
I think they are pricing the camera relative to competitor cameras. Sort cameras weather sealing, ibis, mic jack, and articulating screen and the field narrows. It gets confusing with all the sales going on right now, but that seems to be their strategy.
@@RobTrek Just saw the EM5ii for A$ 765.
Crazy.
Probably should get a spare 😅
@@WMedl That sounds interesting
If I went with the EM-5 mkIII, I'd have to buy the ECG-5 grip, which would bring the price very close to an EM-1 mkII. So for me, it would be EM-1 mkII all the way.
Yes, if you want a grip then you might as well get the E-M1.
Plastic is a stupid reason not to buy a camera. I started in 1962, and of course always worked in medium format. 35mm was considered an amateur format back then, with negs too small to be of much use. I shot quite a lot of 4x5 and 5x7, but medium format was my main bread and butter. I remember when medium format cameras started going to plastic bodies. It was brilliant. The weight difference was substantial and it was very popular as a result. From memory it was the Mamiya 645 Super that first went plastic and the following cameras continued with plastic. No one thinks the Mamiya 645 is anything other than a brilliant high end camera because of plastic. This recent obsession with plastic is ridiculous. Either the camera internals do a good job or not, the shell makes no difference. If anything, the weight saving is a big plus.
Sadly, too many people don’t know enough about cameras to know which camera best suits their needs. For me the custom menu and larger battery make the E-M1 a no brainer, but for 90% of the viewers of this video, they will never use a custom button ever. Every one of those people should be saving a few dollars and getting the E-M5. It is much better value in terms of bang per buck, and a superb camera. Sadly, too many of them will buy the more expensive camera thinking that it will improve their photos. Sadly, it won’t, but the manufacturers employ an army of marketing people whose only job is to convince them it will. They lie.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience. Very true.
Очень полезно и информативно, спасибо!
Спасибо!
Rob, great and practical comparison ... And yes the Christmas price discounts makes it easy for me to add one ore body ... right
Thanks. Some great deals out there!