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- So how does the Mark II series hold up in 2020? At the current prices, they still remain very competitive in the market in my opinion. I start with the E-M10 Mark II, then move on to the E-M5 Mark II and talk about all the additional benefits that camera offers over the E-M10. Then moving on to the E-M1 Mark II, and significant upgrades it brings. No matter which camera you choose, you will have one of the best on the market today.
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Why hasn’t Olympus picked you up as one of their visionary’s. Your knowledge about their camera systems is phenomenal. Your teaching skills explaining how to use them helps those that don’t read manuals. I personally enjoy your videos and even as along term Olympus user do pick up the odd tip which I find useful. Keep up the good work, and during this difficult time stay safe.
Thanks, Les. My genre of photography really doesn't have the appeal like landscape, wildlife, and sports. It's just business and I don't mind. Titles are just titles.
@@RobTrek Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge anyway. Not all photographers do those kind of photos, for instance knowing about indoor low light capabilities, for travel photos like inside museums or monuments is one of the things that made me look to Olympus cameras.
@@RobTrek I agree that you aren't the "Visionary" they want and crave.... but they have Ambassadors and if you don't fit that bill, then they are pretty petty when it comes to having Ambassadors and Visionaries... I'm a big, long time, unofficial ambassador of m43, mostly Olympus, and you are more out there than me.
At least you should be an Olympus educator. Your material is far better then anything Olympus puts out, which frankly is pretty bad. Olympus does a poor job of marketing their products.
In answering to Les Reed, Marcos, all of you above, I am in complete agreeance! Rob Trek should be! While watching the very first video of his I knew I was subbing; his knowledge & that unique teaching personality he has. Very engaging. I think it's funny Olympus isn't interested in the genre. This to me is an overlooked niche, actually genre, with more than enough people (active enthusiasts pro & non pro alike!) that they are truly missing out on a customer base & interest they'd do well to pay attention to. And they've got their very first & best rep looking them in the face! Lol things that make you go "hmm." And to Rob, thank you for giving us this video on all three of these models at once. Been wanting to see exactly this. Clear, informing, concise! I have the E-M1 and the older E-PM2.
I'm a professional photographer, yet I've recently purchased two E-M5 MkII's rather than the E-M1. My decision was based upon performing a MoSCoW Requirements Analysis on the various features, so that I could understand the worth of each feature to myself.
MoSCoW breaks down into assigning each feature a value of:
• Mo = MUST HAVE, or else I'm not buying.
• S = Should Have, where I need most of the Should Have features, but (ultimately) I can accept not having all of them; just most of them.
• Co = Could Have, which are nice to have non-essential features. Assign points for these, but they're only "wish list" items.
• W = Won't Have, which are features I'm not willing to pay for because I don't need them; such as (in my case) any of the video capabilities.
If you assign MoSCoW values to each of the camera's listed feature, your decision on what to spend your money on will be much more logical. This should include features such as ergonomics, ease-of-use (e.g. the menu system), size and weight. For example: the E-M1s are too big for my particular requirements, whereas the E-M10 and E-M5 score highly in these Must Have requirements. For you, size and weight may be only Should Have's.
Never forget, even if you buy today's most advanced camera, even before you've mastered all of its features, something else will have come along to supersede it. You'll also be one of the 'early adopters' who are the Guinea pigs who endure all of the pain of early release software and waiting for bug fixes. That's why I liked the well tried and proven Olympus OM-D E-M5 MkII.
One last point: once you've made your decision and laid out your money, STOP reading technical reviews and equipment comparisons. You have chosen the best equipment for your needs, now it's time to learn how to master what you have and stop thinking the grass may be greener elsewhere. Practice makes great photography. A technically perfect image of doggy doo-do is still a picture of doggy doo. A less than technically perfect, yet amazing image, will always be of greater artistic and photographic value.
Rick Bear
Thanks, Rick! Always a wealth of information.
Great comment on the MoSCoW values system! And you're so right about raising a valid point (for me; for most?) about being satisfied with what one has invested in & not continue looking at other product comparisons & if there is greener grass elsewhere. I was doing exactly this & stopped; I told myself I'd already done careful research so I would be satisfied. Which I am. These cameras are great. But i like staying abreast of the latest, like others. Now to just keep that tempered & not develop gear syndrome lol?!
Great and informative video as always. I really enjoy your content and it has helped me more than anything else on the internet to grow as a photographer. Thank you.
I appreciate that!
That's a fantastic video. Thanks to this I have a clearer idea about the ideal Olympus camera for my purposes. Thanks a lot, Mr. Trek.
Glad it was helpful!
@@RobTrek may I ask: where did you get such as a good deal with the M5 Mark II?
Although I'm a faithful follower of your videos, I don't often comment. I just wanted to echo the thanks of many others who are grateful for the hard work you put into making the videos. Please keep up the good work!
Thanks, Gilbert. Always happy to hear from you.
Really great comparison Rob fantastic summary. I've long wanted someone to quantity the long shutter speed hand holding abiities of the EM1ii vs my EM5ii so many many thanks for that. Also I had'nt realised just how superior the EM1ii is at focusing in low light. Stay Safe, Rich.
Thanks, Richard.
Thanks, Rob. I love my EM-1 MkII. When I see this video I realize how much more I can tap out of this camera. I often use the sync terminal with an attached strobe. I like that feature. Not sure the others have that. Little things count! Thanks again
The sync terminal is almost legacy now, isn't it?
Thanks again, I have now my first olympus camera, but I love it. Never want another camera anymore. Your you tube helpp me so much for how to work with the olympus camera. Thanks 😊
Happy to help!
@@RobTrek I always watch your vidios, so happy with it
Good and I learn something every time. Thanks!
Thanks, David. Looking forward to Sunday's streaming meetup!
A very informative tutorial thank you! It's always nice to see the newer version and sometimes I do feel tempted to purchase the E-M5 Mark ll, especially when you do a great job explaining the differences. I feel if you worked in a shop I would of walked out of Trek Cameras with the E-M5 Mark ll under my arm! Stay healthy and thank you again!
Thanks. Trek Cameras? I like the sound of that!
Another great, informative and USEFUL video Rob. You are a great ambassador for Olympus and photography in general. I'm glad there are people like you out there who share their knowledge with us. Of course you make me spend money, but I'll forgive you that one.....
Thanks, Dave. Appreciate your support and kind comments. Hopefully I save you a little money too!
I'm still using EM5 II for fun and professional jobs. Indeed this camera is a gem.
I really love the em5-ii, especially at the current prices.
I'm using the em 10 mkiii. I was wondering if it's worth getting the em 5 mkii. I know for video it's "worse" but I can't get past the fact it's all metal unlike the new em5 mkiii. I also mainly shoot stills and only use single point af. As some one who owns the em 5 mkii would you switch from the m10 mkiii to the m5 mkii?
Excellent explanation! Thank you!! N.B impressive the GD3WH at the start of the video ;-)
Many thanks!
A very interesting comparison, professional as usual, thank you very much.
Just to mention it - the EM-10 II can do focus stacking as well. I did it a lot with the 25mm/f1.8 lens and some extension tubes for macros.
Keep on the good work and please stay healthy.
Sunnz Boz
But not in-camera as it seems
Thanks! Focus bracketing is a great in-camera feature. Focus stacking is reserved for the em5 and up.
@@RobTrek Oh yes, you are right. I mixed up focus bracketing with focus stacking (in-cam).
Another great video... Thanks Robert !
Thanks, Peter.
Thanks a lot for your review and I wholeheartedly agree. I have the OMD-1 Mark II combo with the 12-40 mm Pro and the 60 mm macro lens and for me it's a great combo. The quality of the glass is great. The camera is jampacked with all kind of useful, great features and delivers great quality photos. For me it's the ideal combination that handles everything you throw at it.
Thanks. The Mark II series really set the bar pretty high.
I can't wait to have the money. Thank you, Rob!
Thanks, Jules.
If you remember a couple weeks ago I ask about the E-M10 II, wanting to replace the one I sold last year. Well, I did repurchase it with that $299 sale Adorama just had (body + kit lens) so now I have all three of the ones you mention in this video along with my E-PL7. I'm happy to have them and they all have their place and use. I really did miss my E-M10 II and started thinking about replacing it within 3 months of selling it :-)
I know how you feel. I'd replace mine too. Weird, isn't it.
I went from the Canon range of camera's to the Olympus range in 2018 and have never looked back. I love all cameras for what they can produce in the right hands ;) But doing long hikes and all day model shoots my hands where starting to feel the pain. To add to the comment below, you really should be an Olympus visionary as you do so much for the brand in such a calm, educated, and informative way. All the very best for the future and I look forward to following you on here for many more years.
Cheers
Jim
Thanks, Jim. Appreciate the kind words. I enjoy different cameras for the unique experience each one can bring. Ultimately Olympus is my favorite. It's made for those of us who want the compact system but still deliver.
As always interesting content about Olympus cameras. I started with M10 2, then won M5 3 in a competition from Olympus. Still trying to get my head around M5 3, but with your videos, which help a great....How do you remember all about the workings, its a mine field. Thanks for your help through this channel. Have a good day and stay safe .
Thanks, Roy. I still struggle with lots of things in the menus. But as I figure them out, I post a video.
Hi there, I’m thinking of purchasing one of the mark 2s and I just hesitated because of the one thing he said about it not being weather sealed, I’m very new to photography and I don’t know that weather sealing means, does it mean I can’t take pictures in the rain?
@@coliningraham7762 best advise, is to look on the olympus Web site. It will tell you which camera is weather seal. My EM1X is weather sealed.
Excellent video Rob. I always learn something new about my camera whenever I watch your posts, thank you.Why doesn't. Olympus market these great features. Maybe you should offer them your services.
Thanks, Troy.
Seems Olympus reached maturity at mark 2. Thankyou for a good post.
Thanks, Warren. The Mark II series certainly set the bar pretty high.
Thank you from someone who was so overwhelmed with the choice of cameras out there ..I just purchased the E-m10 mkii and was wondering if I should have gotten the m5 instead because of the weather proofing .. I’ll just watch for specials on it and enjoy what I bought
Glad I could help! If you have the E-M10ii, skip the E-M5 II and save up for the E-M1 Mark II or E-M5 Mark III.
Great Video.. I am a Nikon Z6 user and last month after an Olympus workshop I tried to switch to the system even bought the M1 mark III and the 12-40 pro and 150-300 2.8 pro, unfortunately I was really disappointed with the EVF resolution, way too low for today's market. went back the following week and returned everything.
but I keep following the brand.
The evf is a very important part of the user experience. It wasn't a deal breaker for me, but I completely understand that it is for many like yourself. Honestly, I was really hoping they'd significantly improve the evf of their flagship this time around, but we'll probably have to wait another generation. Thanks for sharing your experience with Olympus.
Thank you Rob for another non fuss video. You helped me made my choice with one f your videos. I have the em10 and got out of Auto mode in spring, bought me the 60mm macro lens in september and got crazy about macro. I was considering to buy a 5. Mark 3 but ended up ordering an omd 1 m ii with a pro lens at excellent black friday price today. I have read that the plastic base of omd 5 m iii can crack when using a tripod,
Congrats on your OMD EM1 II ! Glad I helped you make the informed decisions.
Hi there, I’m thinking of purchasing one of the mark 2s and I just hesitated because of the one thing he said about it not being weather sealed, I’m very new to photography and I don’t know that weather sealing means, does it mean I can’t take pictures in the rain?
@@coliningraham7762 with mark 2 you can take pictures in harsh weather, rain and snow, but not under water.
Hi Rob, late to the party, sold on EM 10, Mark 11, your review nailed it, good enough for this amatuer. No weather sealing? Use a freezer bag!, Used prices afforable now plus kit glass, as you have pointed out, with "post", no discernable diff to pro glass. Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Thanks, Steve.
This was a nice practical video. I started digital ILC photography with an E-M10 Mk.1, then handled an E-M1 Mk.1 a year or so later. Jonesd for it and bought one on a Black Friday sale. I made the mistake of handling the Mk.2 version a couple of years ago and now have one of those as well.
The 20MP is a nice improvement but what really floored me were the small changes - higher capacity battery, improved grip profile plus 1>2 lever and AEL/AFL button orientation changes. It's a camera that will last me a long time, probably until the E-M1 Mk.4 shows up!
My 'go to' lens for site surveys and lighting assessments is the 7-14mm f2.8. It's very sharp and compact enough to throw in a small sling.
BTW I'm finding your WorkSpace videos very helpful at weaning me off OV3.
Thanks. I'm waiting for the 8-25mm f/4. I used a Pana 7-14mm but switched to the 8mm fisheye. I'll have to review my workspace videos and see what I can add next. I you watch my last livestream, I do a lot of editing in workspace starting at about the 30 minute mark.
@@RobTrek I love the speed of the 8mm, plus being able to defish the images in OV3 to get a rectilinear image (haven't tried in WS yet).
I have had a M10 since they were first released. Having followed all your videos I now realize that I was using about 10% of the capabilities. I debated upgrading to the M5 III but finally purchased an ex demo M5 II for a great price. Super happy with it for all the reasons you mentioned. I even bought "Mastering the Olympus OM-D E-M5 mark II" as a quick reference.
Thanks for sharing, David. It's a great camera. How do you like the quick reference?
@@RobTrek The book is OK, the only weak section I picked up was Partial Color - they do not really understand the three different modes. The main complaint I have is the size and organisation. It is a solid book, 514 pages and not one I would take on a trek. Information is scattered in a number of places, for instance the index for "Partial Color" lists 5 different locations - all of which need to be referenced to get the whole story.
I would prefer a much smaller, but comprehensive guide printed on fine paper similar to a Michelin Guide (or a Lonely Planet) that slides into a back pocket. All the necessary information should be concise and in the one place.
I guess I can only dream unless you feel like a challenge!
Hi there, I’m thinking of purchasing one of the mark 2s and I just hesitated because of the one thing he said about it not being weather sealed, I’m very new to photography and I don’t know that weather sealing means, does it mean I can’t take pictures in the rain?
Hi Rob, thanks for the video. I am not a pro and nor do I take or use a camera in work life. For me photography is stickly for fun. I picked up my first Olympus, an OMD EM 10 mk 2 about 4 years after watching your tutorials. I love this little camera, it's lightweight and provides excellent picture quality which has allowed me to hang photos, that I took, on our walls in our home with my wife's blessings. And over the years I bought a few prime lens, just bought the 30mm, and I have been thinking about upgrading to the EM-5 or EM-1 mark 2 with a Pro zoom 12 - 40. I thinks it's going to be the EM-5 because of the small size and weight and I am not a pro or pixel peeper and don't plan on becoming one. This video and all of your tutorials have helped me with understanding my camera of choice (Olympus) and to become a better photographer. Thanks, I look forward to more from your channel. Neil
Thanks, Neil. I think it's great that you hang your photos. I'm sure they are a great source of pride and joy. I think the em1-ii will be a better fit for that 300mm. The grip alone is a big plus. I'm not sure, but I think the ibis works better with the 300mm too. Robin or Peter may be able to give you better feedback on that one since I don't own that lens.
Hi there, I’m thinking of purchasing one of the mark 2s and I just hesitated because of the one thing he said about it not being weather sealed, I’m very new to photography and I don’t know that weather sealing means, does it mean I can’t take pictures in the rain?
I recently bought my first Olympus camera EM5 marks 2. I only owned a point and shoot prior to that. Your videos for the basics on the camera EM 10 kept me from taking mine back! Thank you for your wonderful for beginners videos. You are a wonderful teacher. Do you have videos on how to move from the point and shoot mind set to adjusting the camera on the go? I am a true beginner. Your aperture priority mode has helped me so much but I am ready to venture out a bit. Thanks!!!
Thanks. Other than my beginners series, I don't have any videos on adjusting one's mindset from point and shoot to higher end cameras. I'll have to give that some thought as it is not quite as tangible as talking about settings.
Rob Trek if anyone could make it manageable it would be you. I already have a better understanding of ISO, shutter speed, Aperture and white balance from you ....just not the finesse of making it work the way I want.
Nice vid, I love my EM1 Mark II!
Same here! Thanks.
Just picked up the EM1 Mkii for $899.00 from Olympus flash sale, amazing bargain. Good things come to those who wait... lol, Great Video Rob
What an amazing deal. Really tempted me too.
Great comparison. I have been enjoying my original em1 and have been thinking about some of these newer features like in camera focus stack, high resolution mode, smaller autofocus point, improved ibis. Think it’s time to add a newer em1.
Thanks, Paul. You'll love the Mark II.
A great help - Thanks
Glad it helped!
Thank you! Very clear! 👍
Glad to hear that!
nice review, love my 5II.
Thanks for watching!
Hi Rob. I use an EM5 Mk.2 which I bought new with the 14-150 kit lens at the time. It wasn't cheap then in 2016 but I gotta tell you it was worth every British penny that I paid for it. Great bit of kit.
It's an awesome camera. I haven't heard anyone ever regret getting one. Thanks.
Can I ask a quick question. Is the screen on the M5 fully articulated? What I mean is can it be flipped all the way around on itself so the screen is folded into the camera to protect the screen?
@@matt821 Yes Matt it is on my EM5 Mk.ii Not sure if it does on the original EM5 though ? Hope that helps.
@@The58stupot that's great thanks! Yes it's the mkII I was talking about, so perfect 👍🏻
Really enjoying my OMD-5ii but I do struggle with flying birds. I’m using the 40-150f2.8 native or with one of the adapters, but tracking is hit & miss and exposure all over the place. Still birds are not a problem, but flying, struggling. Sounds like the 1ii with its better C-AF etc might be the way to go. Thanks for another informative and helpful video.
Yes, the E-M1ii will perform much better for flying birds.
Thank You for your info about Olympus system. I have bougth m1 mIi, 12-40 f2,8; ; 40-150 f 2,8; 300-f4; 60mm macromedia f2,8 and panasonic 25mm F1,7. All this secon hand as like new. And now, m10 mIV a new one. I am very happy with this system. And agan, thank You for your information wich given me this resultat..
Glad to help!
Great video! I've been thinking for a few months now that the mk2s are the ones I'd like to hang on to. I've owned the Em10mk2 for 4 years and was dissapointed when the mk3 came out as it seemed to have been dumbed down and stripped of some advanced features. I just picked up an Em5 mk2 used in great shape and great price. I've read it has a few things they stripped of the mk3 like bigger viewfinder. Maybe in a couple years when used Em1 mk2s are cheap I might grab one of those as well, still too expensive for my needs right now.
Thanks. Agree with everything you said. You might find the em1 iii very cheap in a couple years too!
Not so long ago you were missing out if you didnt upgrade your camera about every 18 months; now a five year old model like the E M5ii will satisfy most users - I love mine. Each of these models is still excellent, and the E M10ii is fantastic value, particularly for folks upgradng from phones.
Thanks. Couldn't agree more!
Great video Rob and would you believe, I still use my EM5 Mk1 !
Thanks. For stills photography, no reason to upgrade to anything else that I can think of.
Me too Man, I really lucky when I buy one M5i full box and just 40 shots. I don’t believe this.
Thank you mr Trek for your excellent video's! All of them! Recently I switched from a lifelong (40yrs+)pro Nikon camera's (last one a Z6)to a(mint) EM1MKII.(12-45 pro)(Euros 1400,)
And oh brother am I happy! This is the 2nd most beautiful, fun camera I ever used and owned (Leica Q being nr 1, nothing beats the Q in terms of simplicity.......and do I hate the Olympus menu system....)And far too late I discovered how good MFT is. The black and white"s are amazing!! Thank you again for your great video's and best wishes for this new year. Stay healthy.
Greetings
Gerard (Netherlands)
Thank you, Gerard!
Hi there, I’m thinking of purchasing one of the mark 2s and I just hesitated because of the one thing he said about it not being weather sealed, I’m very new to photography and I don’t know that weather sealing means, does it mean I can’t take pictures in the rain?
@@coliningraham7762 Without weather sealing, you risk water getting into the camera during rain and damaging it. You'll also need to purchase weather sealed lenses. The em5-ii with 14-150mm is a good weather sealed kit. The E-M1-ii with the 12-40 pro also a good choice.
@@RobTrek I don't plan on going out with the Olympus in downpours, at most light rain for limited amounts of time, and drying the camera afterwards, do you think that would be enough to protect it rather than having to buy the more expensive weather-sealed lenses? Would a plastic bag with a hole for the lens be enough to protect the camera from rain? Also thank you for responding to my comment.
@@coliningraham7762 I've gone out in the rain a few times with no problems. I was careful not to let the rain just pore on the camera, a few sprinkles is okay. When I got home, I took the battery out, opened the battery door and let the camera dry overnight just to be sure. If you use a plastic rain cover with a lens hole, you'll be fine. Still, there is always a risk that one drop gets in the wrong place.
Great review.
Thanks!
E-M1 II is a great camera. When the price drop a little bit, like with most older models, it will become a really tempting buy.
Might have to wait another year. Olympus prices seem to stay "up there" longer.
@@RobTrek or buy a used one :)
@@romualdb5968 I'm in the UK and could trade in a lens I don't use anymore and get an excellent condition used E-M1 mkII for £600. New, they're still £1000.
@@matt821 hi there thanks but I already have bought a E-m1 mk2 on Amazon.de for 700euros new during a sale... Now I'm looking for a tripod... I think I may go for the rollei c6i
I love your videos and have watched all of the OM-D E-M10 ii video tutorials. One think I'm a bit surprised you don't mention in this video is a major difference the E-M10 has over the other two, and that's an OLED viewfinder as opposed to the LCD on the more expensive ones. I know viewfinders can be quite subjective but I so much prefer the vibrant and easier-to-see-outside one in the E-M10 that I ditched the E-M1 I thought would be better. It was not, looked washed out in comparison.
Great point! Unfortunately my dying eyes don't see that much difference.
Hi there, I’m thinking of purchasing one of the mark 2s and I just hesitated because of the one thing he said about it not being weather sealed, I’m very new to photography and I don’t know that weather sealing means, does it mean I can’t take pictures in the rain?
Thanks for this video! So glad to see you are well in these weird times.
In your opinion is the M1 Mark II - because of the better focusing - as good as the Panasonic G5 for 1080p video? So many professionals practically worship the G5's video ability (which I would never trade for, simply because the Olympus has far more AMAZING photo features built in). I have the M5 Mark II and love it, wishing only to improve the video possibilities.
Thanks. It's been a long time since I've heard from you. Hope you are doing well. I've never used a G5 so can't really comment on it. But the EM1 autofocus is amazing now and the video quality is perfectly fine for general use. I suppose more demanding scenes would benefit from 10bit 422 and log profiles, but then your workflow increases substantially.
@@RobTrek Thanks so much, Rob. Like you usually do, 1080p is the way to go forward for me. Candidly, I honestly do NOT understand why so many consumers demand 4K since typical (most) computers can't competently handle the editing workload, let alone uploading the results (unless they have a huge broadband upload capacity or hours to spare). Just sayin.
Did you mean gh5 or g9 maybe. G5 i dont know, its an old generation
Thanks for putting them side by side on the table. I have spent more than a month comparing these cameras based on available videos online.
How big is the E-M1 (1st gen) compared to the E-M5 MK II?
I'm planning to use it for macro/product photography.
The E-M1 is slightly smaller than the E-M1 Mark II. For intents and purposes, the E-M1 is about the same size as the E-M1 Mark II. camerasize.com/compare/#482,594
@@RobTrek Thank you!
I never knew this website exists 😅
Just got the em5 II next to my em10 II... both are gems. I needed focus stacking for my product shoots. It works Just very very good. Both of them are great. Will never sell them...
Totally agree!
Hi Rob, great explanation/comparison of the different cameras. You know that I’m not a professional, I just shoot for fun (stills only, no video) and I’m very happy with the Fuji X-T2 and the lenses that I have, but watching your videos makes me want to get an Olympus camera, I like some of the features that they offer not found on the Fuji cameras. But my issue now is that I have to decide between the OM-D E-M1 Mark II or the OM-D E-M1 Mark III and which first zoom lens should I get, the 12-40 f/2.8 or the 12-100 f/4, and they say that retired people don't have any problems. LOL
Thanks. I think you'll appreciate the hand-held hi-res shot mode in the E-M1 III. Wait for a good deal. Personally I skipped the 12-100 because of it's size. The 12-40 is like bread and butter on the EM1.
@@RobTrek Thanks Rob, i'll wait for a good deal on the Mark III and get the 12-40, if i'm going out for wildlife and/or bird photography i'll just bring the X-T2 with the XF 100-400.
Hi Rob, I recently picked up my first camera, a EM10 II, and have watched a LOT of your content to learn the ins and outs of the OMD system, as well as general photography tips. So much thanks to you, I'll definitely buy you a coffee!
I have the 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 ii R amd 40-150mm f4.0-5.6 R kit lenses, as well as the Olympus 25mm f1.8. I think I will be able to cover a lot of ground with this kit and will be able to learn the basics well, but are there any other lenses I should keep an eye out for (I like to scour the used market for good deals) that are good bang for my buck? Should I consider saving up for any pro lens in particular? I haven't been able to get out much to practice with this pandemic going on, but I'm hoping to get into street photography, landscapes, and portraits.
Also, the street photography videos are great! It really helps a beginner photographer hearing the thought process.
Thanks, Dylan! I'd look at going wider, like the current 9-18mm. If budget allows, an new 8-25mm is supposed to be coming. Might be worth waiting for.
Rob, is the included flash with the em1 mkii strong enough to bounce off a standard height 7-8 foot indoor house ceiling and still be useful? It’s pretty nice that you can tilt and swivel it. The Fuji included kit flash does not do that. Thank you
Yes. It's pretty good indoors.
Great tutorial Rob, I have a omd10 mk 3 and would love to upgrade when all this coronavirus thi g is over. Could yo do a similar comparison on the mark 3's. Thankyou Peter.
Thanks, Peter. I will. I'll title it something like "Worth the Wait?"
The em10 iii is like the most underrated camera in the world. It's cheap, undercover, takes pro pics. And is the only one with a screen that flips upwards without having to flip out first - this is soooo convenient.
The em5 II blew me over with it’s image quality and all the amazing feature like Live Comp. I could not believe a little thing like this could perform so well. The result is that I hardly ever use my Canon 5d iii anymore and went on to buy a used em1 II and several lenses from Oly and Panasonic.as usual a great video, Rob. Looking forward to tonight’s livestream.
That's what happened to me with the E-M10ii. Amazing cameras.
Hi, great comparison! Is there a difference in image quality between this 3 models using the same lens?
Not really. The E-M1ii is a little better with jpg.
Great comparison - Thanks!
What is that articulating head you show at 1:08 - that looks pretty useful?
It's awesome! Can't believe you don't have one. Benro Gear Head. amzn.to/2Aoxnc3
@@RobTrek Whoa - That truly is nice, especially the way it operates/functions. Cannot budget for that at the moment though but will keep the link.
At the moment, my main tripod setup is the really well made and sturdy (but incredibly low cost) Davis&Sanford 7518 that has a ball mound and really good fluid head included in the package. Been through "the wars" on a hundred indoor/outdoor occasions with that and it is still like new. Love it.
Great as that is, I was looking for something lighter to run with and a head like you show here. The Benro gear head looks strong and like it would be great for uneven ground.
All these are in my wishlist.
I'm really confused as to which one to get for macro photography.
I'd recommend the E-M1 Mark II or Mark III.
Rob, love all your videos. Thank you very much. I am often told my EM5ii is terrible for birds. I own a 300mm pro n 150mmpro, but most think the EM5ii will not be good for bird photography. Upgrading is presently not possible till I save up. Is EM5ii lacking for birds?
The focusing is not any worse than any other contrast detect only AF. The problem is really with the buffer. You only can get a few shots off before the camera crawls to a halt. If you have a Mark II camera, a fast UHS-II card will help. The EM10-ii even has a larger buffer than the E-M5-ii. You next camera should probably be the E-M1-ii. I found the AF and Shutter speed excellent for birds.
@@RobTrek thanks for the advice. That explains the lags I have been experiencing. I guess I will hv to save up n upgrade if I intend to continuing bird photography.
It's great to have a review of these top value bodies . I picked a slightly used Em10-II a few months ago at great price as those Em5-II where both pricier and way more used localy (not overpriced but just not as good a bargain). If i am not mistaken , the 10 has an 'af pad' missing on the 5 . The EZ 14-42mm pancake version that came with it has a bad reputation for IQ but my experience with that kind of lens is to simply leave it at F8 (aperture priority mode) at all time and wow, it delivers !
Adding a tiny 9mm fisheye 'body cap lens' for fun and a 45mm f1.8 for extra IQ and depth control makes it an impressively small, light, cheap, good and capable kit . I sometimes add a 30mm f3.5 macro, 40-150 f4-5.6 and/or a fl600r flash . Dont forget a mini (always) or full size (sometimes) tripod for live composite and other 'slow light' functions...
Thanks. You have a great setup. I'd shoot at f/5.6 on the wider end of the 14-42mm and f/8 on the long end. But really, it does a good job across the range.
Hi Mr.Trek.....Where could I get assistance to know my om d cameras...?? Their menus are so
complicated for me....!!!!
Thanks a lot Mr Trek for your help.
Regards.
Check out my channel. I have many videos. th-cam.com/channels/4k4g9LVWmGOidD7tzRnYFg.html
Hi Rob~ in order to use High-Res Mode, you said in the VDO that it requires “compatible lens” - by that you mean any M43 sharp lens, right? or do they have to be the Pro Lenses?!
Hi. Actually any m43 lens should work with hi-res mode. They don't have to be pro-lenses. My mistake.
I currently have the em5ii and pen F (and em10 II and pen epl9) and I’ve been debating if I should upgrade to the emi mkii because I find the focus and shutter lag on my em5 to be frustrating. (If the Pen F was weather sealed I would stick with that) so I’m curious if the em1 would be a good option for me.
Yes, the EM1 is substantially better than any of the cameras you currently have. Watch this video I did to see some of the difference on buffering.th-cam.com/video/9Aer5uyfCu4/w-d-xo.html
Hi, Rob.
Great video. I m using Em1 Mk2 for a while. Love it as you said. But also have a problem when I record the video it can not record for a long duration. May be 15 mins or 30 mins then it shut off automatically. Instead I have enough space in my memory card. How to set up to solve this problem or it s a firmware bug? Looking forward for your reply. Thank you. ;)
Thanks. It will shut off at 30 mins, that is the limit. It should not stop after 15 minutes. Double check and let me know.
have your thoughts and opinions change much since this was first posted? I’m in between a few models, em-5mk2, em-10mk2 or 10mk4. the newer sensor with a bit more MP is slightly attractive.
My opinion hasn't changed. I'd recommend the EM5.2 of the three you are considering. The EM5.2 has better build quality, weather sealing, and more features than the EM10 series. The only exception would be if you want 4k video. The EM10.4 is the only one that can do that. But it doesn't have a mic jack and the EM5.2 does.
Thank you for your interesting video. I still own an Em10 II and considering Em5 mk 2 or Em5 mk3. Hard choice... I just wanted to comment ont focus stacking capabilities though : the em10 II does have this feature, but it will not assemble the shots, you have to do it with a dedicated software on your Mac or PC.
Yes, the em10 has photo "bracketing" but not "stacking". So be sure to look for that specific vocabulary when choosing the next camera. Also, the "stacking" produces a jpg image, so post processing will be limited.
@@RobTrek OK, thank you, I wasn't aware of the difference between bracketing and stacking.
I have the 10 ii and I guess I always thought that it was performing images tacking when I use HDR.
Yes, HDR is image stacking. I was referring to focus stacking. Good point!
I bought my E-M10 Mk II shortly after I got the III. Bought both earlier this year, just before the early lockdown in the US. Was digging getting into m43 and scored all of my favorite lenses used. Mulling getting either a EM-5 II or III next at some point. I know people rag on the plasticky build of the EM-5 III, but I'm really only worried about that if I act like a doofus and leave the thing overnight unused on a tripod.
I'd skip the E-M5 Mark II if you already have 2 E-M10s. I would go to the E-M1 Mark II.
I'll consider that, thanks.
I have the em5 mark III which I really like but I'm looking for a complementary camera, is the em10 markII still a good choice these days? (I don't think there is a very big difference with the em10 III or IIIs and the IV is much more expensive - and I would like a tilt screen to change).
I have no problem recommending the E-M10ii. It's still a great camera.
I would like to upgrade my EPL7 to the EM5 mark ii for the flippy screen but whats stopping me is the lack of 20mp sensor. Any chances we get an EM10 mark IV with flippy screen and 20mp sensor? Em5 mark iii cost too much
I doubt the em10 iv will have a fully articulating screen. But who knows? Might be worth waiting to see. I wouldn't worry about the 16mp vs 20mp to be honest. Better to invest the difference in price in good lenses.
Any tweaks you can suggest for my 5mii for vlogging audio . Out seems very noisy, even connects with external rode mic
I generally lower the camera mic gain between -5 and -10, then apply noise reduction and gain in software later. You could also try a preamp between the mic and camera if you don't mind a little bulkiness.
I am choosing between Lumix G9 and the Olympus om-1 Mark ii for 4k video capture. Which one would you recommend?
Thank you.
Probably the G9. However, the autofocus on the EM1ii is more reliable and has smoother transitions. The G9 offers better video features and is easier to use for video. However, if you can stretch a bit, the GH5 would be a better choice.
Hi Rob, is it necessary to put LCD screen protector? Thank you
I don't put them on my cameras anymore. I suppose it doesn't hurt and will add some layer of protection, not unlike people do for their phones. The screens on our cameras are made of similar material as found on phones.
Hi Rob, were you using the Pen F for filming this? I'm just wondering why the all the moiré on your shirt. Does the E-m10 ii have the same problem?
I honestly don't remember but it was probably the e-m5 iii or the e-m1 iii. Depending on how I recorded it, I noticed moire can vary. Sometimes downsizing 4k to 1080p or zooming slightly in post can make it worse.
@@RobTrek Really? I wasn't expecting the E-M1/5 iii. I've never noticed moiré on the E-m1 ii or my PL9; so, it would be surprising. Maybe it was a editing thing...
What about considering 10 mk2 for wildlife photography? Does the contrast based focus detection work good?
Works great for most wildlife. It's not so good with fast moving objects so you'll have to develop your skill at tracking by eye.
@@RobTrek fine 👍. Thanks for the response 😊
awesome video ^^
Thanks! 😄
I'm still loving my EM-5 Mark II, first real camera I ever bought and it's just so much fun to tinker with all the features and hidden gems. I admit learning the menu system took some time, but I eventually found what was most important and that's the Super Control Panel. I'm in and out of it all the time. Only thing I wish I had was more lenses, I've got two and would like to really see the power of the camera by adding two more: a macro lens and a good prime.
Any how, love your videos Rob. I been watching since I first bought my OM-D and you've been super helpful.
Thanks for sharing your story, Will. In the meantime, for macro you can try using extension tubes and/or reversal rings. The 60mm and 30mm macro lenses double as great primes, so maybe start with one of those.
Rob, out of the 3, do you think that the em10 is just as good as the others? I'm not into video so that hardly matters to me. I'm a minimalist professional photographer.
Thank you
For sports/action, birds in flight type stuff, you'll get much better performance from the E-M1 Mark II. For just about everything else, the e-M10ii will be fine. So pick between the e-M10ii and e-m1ii. The e-m5ii is a great camera but pricing is key here. for $100 more than an e-m10ii, I'd get it. More than that, step up to the e-m1ii or get the e-m10ii. Image quality is virtually the same on all three.
Now we need a Pen F mk2 to complete the set. I hope Olympus reconsiders and decides to make a Mk2
I'm very hopeful and will be first in line!
Fair comments.
Thanks. I try to be fair.
Hi Rob, just found your channel and subscribed. I have the EM1 Mk2. I have been looking at the EM1x as an addition to My Canon 1D series cams I use for events. Do you have any thoughts on the "x" or tried it? Thanks
The e-m1x is mainly built for outdoor rugged environments. I think a more versatile option would be the e-m1iii with an optional grip. Performance and image quality will be the same regardless of which one you pick. Hope that helps. -Rob
@@RobTrek Thanks, I use my 1D series cams for industrial shots, events and some light sporting shoots. I am leaning towards the X because of the ways and environments I use the 1D in.
they are also very very robust... I dropped my EM5II several times out in the field.. . resulting in a visible dent in the metal case, it looks a bit rough but it works perfectly still, also the lenses do not smash that easily ( my Macro and my 45 mm hit the ground, both still fine, although showing the impact marks, but I almost had a heart attack ;) ) I guess I have to get the TG6, sounds like I need it ;)
Haha! You and I have a lot in common. I've dropped my TG5, more like flung across the concrete, and it's fine. Doubt my OMD would have survived.
@@RobTrek ha ha ha... and yesterday I dropped my Canon too... instant thought: that is it, stick to Olympus ha ha ha ha
I don’t use the cameras enough and keep forgetting any custom settings I may have been using.
Sometimes the aperture dial on my E-M1 seems a little unresponsive.
I can appreciate that. I'm constantly changing my custom settings and can't remember what I was doing last. Sorry to hear about your dial. Maybe try cleaning it with a dry tooth brush.
sticky aperture dial is a common fault with the EM1. I did send it into the repair shop and it was inexpensive to have fixed, now it feels like a new camera again.
had this problem with mine, gave it some fast turns in both directions and it has been fine since.
WoW. Very nice topic for the 249th episode. I wonder what would it be for the 250th...🤔
Thanks, Wahab. I never plan what I'm doing video to video. I just wake up with each morning and go where the day takes me.
Please do a Pen F in 2020. That camera is interesting as well.
That might be fun. It's still a great camera.
Will boosting the dynamic range improve contrast autofocus?
No way to "boost" dynamic range. You can only try to focus on the brightest and contrasty part of the image.
@@RobTrek adjust highlights and shadows , I should say
@@Innereyehawk No. The hi/shdw is applied after the image is taken. Good question.
Awesome.!👍
Thanks ✌️
Can anyone help I want to upgrade me olympus om-d e-m5 mark ii firmware. I can't find anything on the Olympus website. When I select update firmware with the camera plugged in My Sofware (Olympus Viewer version 2) say this function is not available?
Hi. You will most likely need to update to OM Workspace v2.2. I've updated the firmware on my EM5.2 with no issues. Let me know if that works. -Rob
What does the lens have to do with focus stacking?
Not sure why, but stacking is limited to Pro lenses. Doesn't make sense to me either. If focus bracketing works on all lenses, isn't stacking a secondary step?
Out of the em1 mk1, em5 mk 2 and em10 mk 3 what would be your choice, i can afford any of these 3 used. i currently shoot Canon but looking for something more portable, i am not a professional and will be keeping the canon for low light.
I think you'll like the E-M5 Mark II best. You can still get one relatively new. The EM1-I is harder to find in excellent condition. You'll probably want to get a grip for the E-M5 mk2. Although the the em10 mk3 is a great camera, the Mk2 series are still better in my opinion.
Probably the EM 5 ii, though the EM1 is definitely more comfortable for longer shooting sessions or with larger lenses.
i would go for the 2 version of the em10 as the 3 removed some goodies like piloting an fl-600r flash, viewfinder boost and probably some other stuff . It is also better at low light than anticipated . A em5 mk 2 will bring you mostly a bit more performance in high speed (1/8000s) and burst mode plus high res mode and weather sealing wich means little if the lenses are not, and many of the best values aren't .
My advice is to also plan on lenses and flash first . See my other comment in this post. You will find that in comparaison to your Canon (dslr) , M43 is more about those tiny lenses than the light body itself.
I went for the em5 mk ii one came upnfor sale used with the additional grip and a 12 month warranty at I price that was very good. Only had it a day but so far very impressed.
@@martinmchale8069 Sounds like a good deal! I'm still keeping my eye out for a used EM5 ii at a good price! Happy shooting!
Hi Rob, they are all excellent cameras. But I do wish they were more competitive on price because Panasonic are.
No question the gx85 and g9 are top notch values and their prices have come down substantially compared to Olympus. If there was a g85 on the shelf when I went to the camera store 3+ years ago, I might be a Panasonic shooter today!
@@RobTrek Hey Rob, at $698 it is a steal, though the 12-60mm lens is a lower end kit and not the faster lens. Still a low price for the combo. The camera bodies and lenses may not have the sex appeal of Olympus, but in all fairness, the Panny style and lenses look and feel great! Some of the lenses are Japan made too. I think all the cameras seem to be made in China. As for build quality the battery door, as example, I think is more sturdy. Looks like the G85 grip is pretty good. The G9 is tops, no doubt, but larger and a larger price of $999 -- still a good mark-down though.
@@RobTrek it is a bit of a shame because there are so many things I like about Olympus cameras, I used to have the PEN years ago and with your videos I like the idea of all the configuration possible. But then value for money and form factor , I am a GX80 user, I bet I will stay with Pany.
Would you still recommend Olympus for someone getting started today?
Absolutely!
I totally agree.
Thanks!
I have some doubts to buy a new Olympus( I use stillan EPL-1) because they are closing this year, I ask myself if it has sense or better go for a Panasonic...😒
Panasonic makes fine cameras. I still prefer and will continue to buy Olympus.
@@RobTrek thanks Rob
A new Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark II with 14-42mm II R Lens is on sale now in the U.S. for $299 at one of the big sites.
Amazing deal. I hope people take advantage of it. I'm seeing that pricing more often.
indeed. At this price new, it is hard to find a better deal used .
EM1 - 2 is amazing and great in low light too.....I print and the difference between 5D lll is hardly noticable
Thanks for your feedback!
Thanks for your talk. Can you do a thing for a beginner...maybe a book
I'm not much of a writer.
I have just order it on amazon. There is a 600p book for omd 1 m ii
Tk very much.
You're welcome!
would the battery grip work with em10 mkiii
Sorry, there is no battery grip option for the e-m10 series.
The E-M10 Mark II was my first Micro 4/3s camera too. Like you I was using Nikons before getting into Olympus. The E-M10 Mark II is now my main camera .
Great minds think alike! Thanks, Steve.
Awesome views! I have an om-d e-m10 Mark ii which I bought along with the 14-42mm ez kit zoom. And the combo worked for me until recently one day a message popped out on the LCD saying "please check the status of a lens"! After fiddling with the system for about an hour I finally realised my biggest mistake! "NEVER BUY A MOTORIZED ZOOM LENS! NEVER, EVER!"
That happened to me too! It's not a big enough problem for Olympus to recall the lens, but it's the most common problem I hear with that lens.
@@RobTrek i always tough that the only advantage of such zooms is a smooth zoom in/out in video (set to slow) .
Mine came with my slightly used Em10-II , kind of a bonus and works fine so far. I really like that it is pancake for the little room it takes in the bag when i use another lens, witch is frequent . As long as it works at the wide range i'll be happy since i always carry a 9mm 'cap', a 30mm f3.5 macro and a 45mm f1.8 in the bag with it.
It also seems that the other 14-42 has its problems .
In any case, it seems a little risky to rely only on a single Olympus kit zoom . At least another lens is not only a complement but also a backup.