F1 Mercedes braking systems with Mike Elliott By Peter Windsor
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Mike Elliott, Technology Director of AMG-Mercedes Petronas F1, talks us through the braking systems of the Championship-winning Mercedes F1 car. The temperatures and the g-forces involved are mind-blowing; and, until the new F1 regs arrive, the brake suppliers in F1 remain in fierce competition. Mercedes generally use Brembo calipers with Carbone Industrie discs but there's always a lot of fine-tuning over a race weekend. With thanks to AMG-Mercedes Petronas Motorsport.
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Mercedes F1 team always share a lot of insight, that’s great to watch
OK, I''ve been a loyal fan and subscriber - can you please explain why no more Scarbs?
Racing Point: Can you hold that disc up a little longer please?
I think F1 TV coverage should focus more on this.
Not arf! These muppet commentators and muppet producers think theirs is the only game in town. Somewhere on You Tube there's some amateur fixed camera stuff between two corners in Melbourne which shows the incredible grip of an F1 car far better than standard follow-the-action camera work. The broadcast establishment need to search You Tube.
Great video Peter, for some reason I thought the modern cars were Brake-by-wire, where the pedal and resistance was computer/servo controlled and it is all programming for the distribution and energy recovery. Apparently not, it is good to see good ole non-power, pedal-fluid brakes, where it is the driver doing the work!
Mercedes introduced a brake-by-wire system on the SL series roughly ten years ago, however after certain problems with it the following series had a traditional braking system again. I don't know the current state of brake-by-wire systems in road cars though, so if anyone knows that please give a short overview comment here :-)
Very interesting, Mike has a great way of explaining things. Thank you.
also FYI. when they ask lewis to
"turn off brake magic" its warmer that keeps the discs at better than cold temperatures
Great video! I miss the days of Windsor/Hobbs/Matchett commentary.
Worth watching.I rather wanted to hear more about the rear brakes and the relationship with energy recovery, but that is a question for the Mercedes team pr, and not you.
There are two energy recovery systems in all the engines in F1, the mgu-h and mgu-k. Which are the Motor Generating Units Heat and Kinetic respectively. The MGU-h is a generator/motor that attaches to the turbo shaft allowing the energy to be gathered on throttle lift off and also act as an electric turbo pre-spooling before throttle goes down (Removing most turbo lag). The MGU-k is a generator/motor connected to the crankshaft. So as the engine revs the motor spins, the electronics can change whether to do nothing, recover energy or output energy. So when the driver gets to the end of the straight, partially the engine is braking, partially the MGU-k is braking and the brakes are braking. The teams use very complex systems to decide when they do everything to achieve the optimum energy management. So the energy recovery doesn't come through the brakes. Hope that clears it up :)
So you want to know the the rear breaks? Coffee breaks? Lunch breaks? Dinner breaks?
@@jamessquibb7766 Excellent! My thanks.
@@koitorob I was tired. I have now corrected it.
Mikey Elliott.... great guy to work with, very level headed, no Ego
Peter gets next level access fair play
nice repost
more more more
If anyone want to watch the original video rather than this shared version it can be found here: th-cam.com/video/ODaPkCehkkA/w-d-xo.html The channel is worth watching if you prefer your videos up-to-date and want to ask questions of the originator of the video.
Any thoughts Pete about Wolff buying into Aston Martin and the Interpersonal financial dynamic there..
Wolff didn't purchase Aston Martin
@@pabloescobar1106 not outright, just got a big bite www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.mercedes-chief-wolff-buys-stake-in-aston-martin.1JqnDLH1GP3tOavENsmRSy.html
@@BlueJazzBoyNZ Do you want to know about my stake in Aston Martin? ANYONE can buy shares!
@@BlueJazzBoyNZ 0.95% not exactly going to be on the board is he, he is an investor and can probably see AM growing once they join F1. Interestingly tho, Daimler group also own about 5% of AM. I am interested in how it will play out tho, he owns Merc F1 and had to sell his stake in Williams before he became Merc team principle, so not sure how having a stake in AM is any different to Williams.
Can you also explain engine mapping
an engine needs certain amounts of air+gas at certain rpm. You make a spreadsheet, with how much gas and air the engine needs at the different rpm and throttle positions. make the computer read the spreadsheet based on how much you are pressing the gas pedal and what rpm the engine is at. the computer reads the spreadsheet and puts the designated amount of fuel + air into the engine
Why don't they use inclined master cylinders ? Would be easier for packaging
The applied force then won't be on the same plan as the Master cylindre , there will be a lost horizontal component . And also when they put the Master cylindre in a horizontal position , it takes less space and they can put things on top of it . Just a personal opinion 😁
Mercedes uses CATIA?
Yes they do, I believe they also use seimens nx cad package. Ferrari also uses Catia. Most of the aerospace and automotive companies use either of those packages
Last time I checked Mercedes used CATIA of one generation newer than Ferrari.
@@MrLundefaret oh I didn't know that but most of the teams use either Catia or NX
I have your F1 game
We won't see it in race action though.
this video was made to appease f1 fanboys who know nothing about cars. The brakes in this car work the same as in any other car, you push a pedal, and the brake calipers squeeze the rotors, but with more attention to cooling and regenerative braking to actively get the correct brake bias for maximum stopping power.
0:22 pedals wrong way round !!!
No!