I think the big advantage of the 919 EVO is its massive accelleration. On a track like Le Mans, where top speed matters the most, it would probably not set such a great time.
I think it's because it still is drastically not only cheaper, but also safer to do that. Those things cost money and F1 if anything is the greatest motorsport at development. Sims is one of the reasons why. Extensive research that goes into development of the car is something next level and, considering it is for ONE particular track, it's even more surprising.
Sounds pretty good but I think they would need more then 3 drivers that are capable of driving the F1 the F1 car is way more difficult and brute on you especially on corners so they'd also change of drivers more often too
Le Mans despite being 13 kilometers long still only has 3 sectors. First goes up to Tetre Rouge, second is the entire Mulsanne straight, and third is from Mulsanne corner to the end. Alonso started his lap from the pits so the first sector isn't comparable. He encountered the traffic when entering the porche curves so about halfway down the 3rd sector. So he would have only gotten a single proper sector time for the lap, and that happens to be the Mulsanne straight. Realistically the only information you'll get from that is whether an F1 car is faster than a Le Mans Hypercar on a straight line. That being said, if you go look at the video of Alonso doing the lap, he goes from Tetre rouge to Mulsanne corner in about 1 minute and 20 seconds. In Le Mans 2024 qualification and hyperpole the fastest sector 2 times appear to be around 1 minute 19 seconds and change. So in a straight line his lap time was pretty much exactly the same as a Le Mans Hypercar.
This is the dumbest video I’ve seen. Builds up all this anticipation, just to realize that Alonso never was able to reach a flat out full lap at Le Mans.
The way the team saved a LOT of trial and error costs with computer runing multiple laps with current f1 car stats on the circuit to find the perfect "macro" and then get the driver to mimic as close as possible to the machine precision without the need to drive the actual car its soo clever. Thats a perfect representation of how can technology is helping us solving "real life puzzles" faster and more efficiently!
Cool video, but fyi "terminal velocity" is not a synonym of "top speed" (of a car, a runner, etc). "Terminal velocity" is a term specific to Fluid Dynamics, referring to the highest speed an object will achieve when FALLING (ie unassisted by a source of propulsion) through a fluid/gaseous medium, usually referring to air (ie, a sky diver's highest speed, or anything else falling through the air), limited by the air's inability to get out of the way any faster. A car pushing itself through the air can be limited by either engine power (pushing the air out of the way), or gear ratio, or running out of room on a straightaway. "Top speed" covers those conditions.
This was the comment I was looking for. The "terminal velocity" remark - while I get what he means in the video - took me out of it. Clumsy misstep from someone who is usually quite scientific in his videos I thought.
FWIW - LMP1 (1 min 45 sec) is 13 sec/lap slower than F1 car (1 min 32 sec) at COTA (3.4 mi/5.5 km). Indy car has lap time (1 min 46 sec). All are qualifying times.
@@SpencerMusic880why would you say that? Sub 3 minute laps would put them way ahead of even LMP1 cars in 10 laps. They would box and be out in front of them the whole race. Of course with the requisite amount of fuel needed to lap that long or longer. Do you mean from a longevity standpoint they couldn’t last 10 laps or more? Just trying to understand your take. Not getting at you.
@@SpencerMusic880 But I think the idea of a F1 24 hr Le Mans race would be without anything else than F1, or maybe with just F1 and F2/Hypercar racers.
@@snakebitten6967 Well, that simulated sub 3 lap was a 'perfect computer lap' and not a driven lap so I'm more than a bit skeptical if that was a real world achievable time. Even if it were an actual possibility it would be more of a qualifying hot lap than a race lap. In Grand Prixes there's a 7-10 second difference between pole qualifying lap and the race's fastest lap. Fuel load, set up,... the difference between getting the fastest lap possible and the fastest consecutive 50 laps possible are very different, much less 24 hours of laps. 2018 cars were faster than 2023/24 cars. Some of that do doubt was on the corners but the fastest achieved speeds have also gone from around 130 mph to around the mid 120s. It would be interesting to see this with an Indycar which while much slower in the corners and acceleration/deceleration do have around 10-15 mph faster top speed with an oval set up.
Lap record was 3:17 by Conway, during the actual race, I'm assuming? Because I know Kobayashi did 3:14 during qualifying in 2017 or 2016, I don't remember.
At 4:09, I think what Dominic means by a lack of sensitivity is that changing that part of the setup has a relatively small effect on simulated performance, small enough that the driver can choose what they prefer, not the meaning subsequently described in the video
Just to note, when the engineers talking about low sensitvity at around 4:00, I think he might be talking about sensitivty analysis rather than the handling sensitivity. Meaning in their simulations if there are two different set up optinons that give similar lap times they'll let the drives try both set ups to see which they prefer.
Because a wing regardless of size, still creates drag. Having a large wing with DRS is going to be slower than a smaller wing with DRS. The straights on Le Mans are far more important than the 5 or so slow corners.
because DRS don't remove all the drag of the rear wing due to regulation, the opening is limited to 8 cm or 3.15 inches no more and if you want them to allow a larger opening then it's no longer a F1 car.
He simply referred to the Alpines in the 2021 Italian Grand Prix as Renault. Since the video essentially talks about the Renault R.S.18 F1 car from 2018.
The BIG question is how long would a F1 car last at that 3 min pace before a critical failure? 2 hours like a F1 race? 4 hours if you tone it down to race safely 24 hours seems an eternity. Makes us respect both categories. Usain Bolt would never beat Kipchoge in a marathon. No one was able to beat Bolt on a 100m dash
That's 40 laps at 20s faster lap time.. how quickly could they swap out some brakes? Or design a brake system that could be swapped out fast.. Interesting thought experiment.
40 laps? You realize that a lap at Sarthe is nearly twice as long as Spa right? They'd be doing 23 maybe 24 per fuel stint if they're doing fuel saving. All of that is also ignoring tire life.
@@caillanan Yeah. So lets call it 39 laps then and allow 3 minutes for a couple of fuel stops and a tyre change. :) How long does a pit stop add to a lap? (Genuine question?) Not here to argue, as I know stuff all about any of this. Just suggesting I am sure there are solutions to the problems..
Not really. You'd just end up with an open wheel LMP1 that requires an engine swap midway after all the fixes you'd need. I'd probably just rather run an LMP1 since you'd be losing so much time in the pits.
Remember when Porche tested their setup with absolutely no limits for shits and giggles? Man I wish F1 teams did more of this with their older setups. Sadly, FIA regulates F1 heavily so as to not have private testing (which is not accessible for all teams due to monetary limitations) for current gen cars (or next for that matter)...
8:38 slight mistake there, the drivers for the Renault team in 2018 would be Hulkenberg and Sainz. Neither Ocon nor Alonso was driving for Renault in that year.
Great videos! Id love to see some indy car video's. Feel the series is very underrated. The last few indy 500s have been pretty awesome! They amount of passing and actual racing is so mu greater than F1 and therefore entertaining. Plus they've got ovals which alot of F1 drivers are scared to race on!
Ocon and Gasly ran 2 f1 cars and Victor Martins and Theo Pourchaire drove 2 F2 at lemans last year for a french race called GP explorer. It was amazing
Great video! It would be interesting to see how well the 919 Evo would do here. If I remember correctly, the Evo was about 11% faster in Spa and about 12% faster on the Nordschleife. While F1 did beat the 919 Evo time in Spa later on, Le Mans has a different setup and once the Evo could get better tires and wheels as well as a better overall preparation I would put my money on the Evo...
F1 should race at LeMans for a special double points race. Like indy car has indy 500, if F1 has LeMans on the race calender and it's an opportunity for constructors and drivers championship to gain double points with the same pointing system
The Circuit de la Sarthe is not up to F1 standards with its FIA Grade 2. Also I think F1 should leave this circuit to prototypes and GT cars and come up with its own Jewel in the Crown event instead of stealing it from another series.
@@ananastudio Yeah, you get the idea. Monaco doesn't count. We need an endurance special stage for teams to have the opportunity to score double points. I know there are lots of things such as the right track, cars would have to be specialized for that specific event, they'll need to work out a driver swap system, and imprpve the longevity and reliability of the engine...basicallybhave a special engine just for that 1 race. OH, AND MAYBE F1 CARS WILL HAVE HEADLIGHTS AND BRAKE LIGHTS FOR ONCE 😂😂
I'm french and i Have to say that the Mulsanne straight is between the Mulsanne Corner and Indianapolis corner. The massive straight is the Hunaudieres straight
This is wild, I wouldn't have imagine any other F1 team other than Redbull to attempt this with how crazy Redbull can get with their crazy stunts and attempts at world records
we really need that big no rules time attack meeting of different sorts of motorsport. f1 vs hyper cars, maybe some old lmp1 at an iconic track and then just go for it
The Porsche's supposed 'record' at Spa was a publicity stunt. The car was completely unregulated built specifically for the stunt. The run was on a closed track. On a non-competition weekend. And yet it was just marginally faster than fully compliant F1 car. F1 cars are still faster.
The only problem with this is that if you modify the GP car to go fast you should allow and unrestricted LM car to also set a time as you are not comparing apples with apples. It would be interesting to see the comparison between a GP car set up for say Monza against a LM car set up for Le Mans. If the GP car need to slow down sooner due to brakes etc. so be it and we would see a fair comparison for the two disciplines.
Great video thanks. It just shows how serious and prepared F1 teams are, for everything. Not a case of just turning up with a Monza spec car and having Alonso rag it a bit. nope they optimise the car even just for a demo run. Now, how quick could they have been if they faired in those open wheels???
You didn't mention Gerard Welter who used to turn up in Formula 3000 cars with Group C bodywork. He managed more than one lap (sometimes) and set the record down the straight (405, some say 407 kmh).
Thx for this absolutely interesting video. I rarely ever watch adds during vids but here, I have to say that I did, as a token of appreciation. Keep it up sir (and team) 👍
I hope they radically altered the DRS wing to create massive drag when closed but very little drag when open. The slot gap could be doubled if they wanted.
Thanks for posting. Too bad they could wait for the other demonstration cars to be further along or go before them. I suppose windows of opportunity were a factor. 🏎
I greatly enjoyed this video, as I have in the past been curious about what time an F1 car would do at Le Mans. I’m also wondering what lap time they would be able to at the Nordschleife.
1:50 does anyone know who the driver is here? It looks like Hamilton’s helmet but surely that’s impossible. Is it Piastri? The car doesn’t have a number so I really don’t know.
The fastest lap of Le Mans is actually Kamui Kobayashi at a 3:14.791 but that was in qualifying. Its still the official lap record though AFAIK unless they've lightly changed some corner layouts that reset the records?
@Starfire_Storm No, its Le Mans not WEC. If there's a F1 race and 24 LM at same time I will watch 24H LM. If there is F1 race and something else, I will watch F1. WEC races I don't watch it from start to finish like I do with Le Mans, and at big extent, 24 Nurburgring, 24 Spa and 12 Bathurst. WEC races I watch more or less the first and last hour, if I m home at that time doing nothing. The other races its on my calendar.
I used to play rfactor a lot, trying f1 cars at the different tracks. And Circuit de la Sarthe was one of the favorites. Surprisingly the lap time was around 2:57.000 - 2:59.000 :) I guess rfactor is a nice simulator game in the end :)
But, as last year's 'pretend' NASCAR showed ('cause let's remember, it was quite some distance from a genuine NASCAR), being able to do a single fast lap is one thing, but doing it over an entire tank of gas (let alone over 24 hours), is COMPLETELY different. An interesting exercise? Sure. But, even IF an F1 team could build an engine that would last 24 hours (and let's remember, Alpine couldn't achieve that with their Hypercar this year), I doubt very much that the car would beat an LMP1 (or even a Hypercar) over the race distance.
Hi mate! What about that project you were developing, about running a race car upside down inside that custom-made tunnel? Just asking for pure information, since no further info has been given: it was something amazing and I guess everyone would be super excited for it to actually go on! Let us know, all the best!
Yo diría y haría la comparación que la F1 es un Guepardo, solo es para cortas distancias. En cambio, Le Mans es una maratón. Digo esto porque, en Le Mans los automóviles, mecánicamente hablando deben soportar 24 horas en un circuito. Así que, a la larga, los automóviles de Le Mans le ganan a la F1.
The Mulsanne chicanes were added in 1989 after the WM Peugeot had run 408K(about 252mph) the year before which will stand for ever as the fastest speed ever recorded!
Imagine Ferrari making a 499P Evo (not the Modificata, that is too softened up for amateurs) like the 919 Evo and going around beating the 919 Evo records where it can! Damn that would spark some Porsche revenge :)
@barath4545 well, that would be one hell of a challenge: 919 Evo is based on an LMP1, a way more complex and faster car overall... even a "standard" 919 would probably be considerably faster than a 499p Modificata so yeah, not a realistic thing at all imo lol
Next time I hop in my rig, I'll have some Assetto Corsa work to do at Le Mans, in various F1. But the first one will probably be Alonso's 2006 Renault !
The best cars suit for that are Nascar or Indy car!! They can endure more specifically the indycar can use the Indy 500 set-up can run more than 235mph!!
it would be a blast if the day before the le mans 24 there will be an event where every series/types of cars would be given a chance to compete for quickest lap. good entertainment that.
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They've destroyed Ayrton Senna's Lotus. To make watches. How can you be ok with this? It's disgusting.
I wonder how fast an Indycar would lap. They have a higher top speed than a F1 car.
@@SuikaIbukiyou don't have to
@@grizzlyhamstercan you elaborate? This type of comment is... puzzling
Imagine having an F1 endurance race at Le Mans
Wouldn't last 4 h
it would be very underwhelming
F1, F2, F3, and F4?
@@Beckett3743 F4 would lose.. By a mile so it wouldn't be proper and the standards of racing are different
@@thesteverussmaybe with a detuned engine
I read the thumbnail as "Fiat Le Mans". This is perfect.
Ha! Very good point - sorry for the clickbait 😂
@@Driver61 i was expecting some puntos but here we are
@@Driver61tbf the alpine car aint that much faster than a fiat
I did it too
@@DavitaDidiTavita Loool took the words right outta my mouth.
Next year they should let the Porsche 919 EVO do an unrestricted solo run around Le Mans like they did at the Nordschleife
Yes!
Absolutely
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I think the big advantage of the 919 EVO is its massive accelleration. On a track like Le Mans, where top speed matters the most, it would probably not set such a great time.
Agree but Porsche might not bother until they actually win again
TLDR: 0:20 They didn't get to complete a lap and the estimated timed lap is a sub 3 minutes, save yourself 12 minutes folks.
thank you
Should have read the coments first.
Thanks but no thanks. Many of us take a thorough interest in the full videos.
Instead of TLDR you should write ADHD.
(….hurry hurry please only read me the last page of the book..) 🤣
Dude... I thought I was losing my mind.
The fact that they wrote all of that complex simulation software which 'just' gives them a base setup is astounding
I think it's because it still is drastically not only cheaper, but also safer to do that. Those things cost money and F1 if anything is the greatest motorsport at development. Sims is one of the reasons why. Extensive research that goes into development of the car is something next level and, considering it is for ONE particular track, it's even more surprising.
I'd love f1 endurance races because it'll force the designers to make f1 cars even more durable and reliable over a long period of time
The tickets wouldn't sell as well.
@@solarissv777 why?
That's basically just open wheel LMP1 with stricter regulation. 😂
@@chrismaina1830 Too expensive maybe idk, I don't get it. F1 is the most popular sport. I think it would sell.
Sounds pretty good but I think they would need more then 3 drivers that are capable of driving the F1 the F1 car is way more difficult and brute on you especially on corners so they'd also change of drivers more often too
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Its because they want to explain it in a way new viewer would understand with no prior knowledge or little of how race car works.
I was not expecting sub 3 minute time projection. That's insane. I'd love to see it a real lap unimpeded.
how did Alonso's first few sector times compare to le mans until he hit traffic?
I wondered that
Because Fernando is faster than you
@@mram7571ALL THE TIME you have to leave it, the space
Le Mans despite being 13 kilometers long still only has 3 sectors. First goes up to Tetre Rouge, second is the entire Mulsanne straight, and third is from Mulsanne corner to the end. Alonso started his lap from the pits so the first sector isn't comparable. He encountered the traffic when entering the porche curves so about halfway down the 3rd sector. So he would have only gotten a single proper sector time for the lap, and that happens to be the Mulsanne straight. Realistically the only information you'll get from that is whether an F1 car is faster than a Le Mans Hypercar on a straight line.
That being said, if you go look at the video of Alonso doing the lap, he goes from Tetre rouge to Mulsanne corner in about 1 minute and 20 seconds. In Le Mans 2024 qualification and hyperpole the fastest sector 2 times appear to be around 1 minute 19 seconds and change. So in a straight line his lap time was pretty much exactly the same as a Le Mans Hypercar.
This is the dumbest video I’ve seen. Builds up all this anticipation, just to realize that Alonso never was able to reach a flat out full lap at Le Mans.
The way the team saved a LOT of trial and error costs with computer runing multiple laps with current f1 car stats on the circuit to find the perfect "macro" and then get the driver to mimic as close as possible to the machine precision without the need to drive the actual car its soo clever. Thats a perfect representation of how can technology is helping us solving "real life puzzles" faster and more efficiently!
12 minutes to tell us they didn't do a lap 😂😂😂😂😂
Cool video, but fyi "terminal velocity" is not a synonym of "top speed" (of a car, a runner, etc).
"Terminal velocity" is a term specific to Fluid Dynamics, referring to the highest speed an object will achieve when FALLING (ie unassisted by a source of propulsion) through a fluid/gaseous medium, usually referring to air (ie, a sky diver's highest speed, or anything else falling through the air), limited by the air's inability to get out of the way any faster. A car pushing itself through the air can be limited by either engine power (pushing the air out of the way), or gear ratio, or running out of room on a straightaway. "Top speed" covers those conditions.
A car can also be limited by its terminal velocity at some point but I don't know if any car has achieved that.
@@102ndsmirnov7 i think mythbusters dropped a car from a big height before
This was the comment I was looking for. The "terminal velocity" remark - while I get what he means in the video - took me out of it. Clumsy misstep from someone who is usually quite scientific in his videos I thought.
Thanks. That term sounded strange to me but didn't know exact reason.
Unfortunately that was a waste of 12mins
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FWIW - LMP1 (1 min 45 sec) is 13 sec/lap slower than F1 car (1 min 32 sec) at COTA (3.4 mi/5.5 km). Indy car has lap time (1 min 46 sec). All are qualifying times.
and a 24 hour race at Le Mans including that F1 car would have them looking at GT car tail lights after 10 laps.
@@SpencerMusic880why would you say that?
Sub 3 minute laps would put them way ahead of even LMP1 cars in 10 laps. They would box and be out in front of them the whole race. Of course with the requisite amount of fuel needed to lap that long or longer.
Do you mean from a longevity standpoint they couldn’t last 10 laps or more? Just trying to understand your take. Not getting at you.
@@SpencerMusic880 But I think the idea of a F1 24 hr Le Mans race would be without anything else than F1, or maybe with just F1 and F2/Hypercar racers.
@@snakebitten6967 Well, that simulated sub 3 lap was a 'perfect computer lap' and not a driven lap so I'm more than a bit skeptical if that was a real world achievable time. Even if it were an actual possibility it would be more of a qualifying hot lap than a race lap. In Grand Prixes there's a 7-10 second difference between pole qualifying lap and the race's fastest lap. Fuel load, set up,... the difference between getting the fastest lap possible and the fastest consecutive 50 laps possible are very different, much less 24 hours of laps.
2018 cars were faster than 2023/24 cars. Some of that do doubt was on the corners but the fastest achieved speeds have also gone from around 130 mph to around the mid 120s. It would be interesting to see this with an Indycar which while much slower in the corners and acceleration/deceleration do have around 10-15 mph faster top speed with an oval set up.
@@snakebitten6967 The poster is saying that the F1 car is so fast it would be about to lap the GT cars in 10 laps.
If an Alpine/Renault can go sub 3 minutes at Le Mans
Imagine what the Mercedes W11 can do on it 💀
wow
conversely, imagine Mazepin being lapped by the GT class.
Lap record was 3:17 by Conway, during the actual race, I'm assuming? Because I know Kobayashi did 3:14 during qualifying in 2017 or 2016, I don't remember.
You are correct! And the time was 3:14.791 during qualifying in 2017 and it was set by Kamui Kobayashi not Mike Conway.
Lap records are always Race Laps.
Qualifying laps don’t count as official lap records.
@lordomacron3719 Yeah but it just feels weird taking that number for comparison when the f1 predicted lap time is for a perfect qualifying lap.
You are right, and Kevin Estre's last hyperpole was 3:24.634
At 4:09, I think what Dominic means by a lack of sensitivity is that changing that part of the setup has a relatively small effect on simulated performance, small enough that the driver can choose what they prefer, not the meaning subsequently described in the video
Just to note, when the engineers talking about low sensitvity at around 4:00, I think he might be talking about sensitivty analysis rather than the handling sensitivity. Meaning in their simulations if there are two different set up optinons that give similar lap times they'll let the drives try both set ups to see which they prefer.
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if theres DRS available everywhere why not have a very big wing to go faster through corners but still be very fast on straights with DRS
Coz you want the front wing to be trimmed for low drag as well and a big rear wing would mess up the balance too much.
it would still mean more drag at the straights and with 92 % flat out would probably cost more time than what you d save in the corners.
Because a wing regardless of size, still creates drag. Having a large wing with DRS is going to be slower than a smaller wing with DRS. The straights on Le Mans are far more important than the 5 or so slow corners.
because DRS don't remove all the drag of the rear wing due to regulation, the opening is limited to 8 cm or 3.15 inches no more and if you want them to allow a larger opening then it's no longer a F1 car.
Even with drs, the wing produces drag, and a bigger wing would ruin the aero balance of the car.
8:37 The highlighted drivers were not driving the Renaults. The Renaults were driven by Hülkenberg and Sainz back in 2018.
He simply referred to the Alpines in the 2021 Italian Grand Prix as Renault. Since the video essentially talks about the Renault R.S.18 F1 car from 2018.
@@ananastudio He didn't, Sirotkin is in there, Ericsson, Vandoorne, Hartley as well. That's not 2021's Italian GP
The BIG question is how long would a F1 car last at that 3 min pace before a critical failure?
2 hours like a F1 race?
4 hours if you tone it down to race safely
24 hours seems an eternity.
Makes us respect both categories.
Usain Bolt would never beat Kipchoge in a marathon.
No one was able to beat Bolt on a 100m dash
Brakes would let go ~2 hours in. They're too fragile for anything longer than grand prix distance.
That's 40 laps at 20s faster lap time.. how quickly could they swap out some brakes? Or design a brake system that could be swapped out fast.. Interesting thought experiment.
40 laps? You realize that a lap at Sarthe is nearly twice as long as Spa right? They'd be doing 23 maybe 24 per fuel stint if they're doing fuel saving. All of that is also ignoring tire life.
@@caillanan Yeah. So lets call it 39 laps then and allow 3 minutes for a couple of fuel stops and a tyre change. :) How long does a pit stop add to a lap? (Genuine question?) Not here to argue, as I know stuff all about any of this. Just suggesting I am sure there are solutions to the problems..
Not really. You'd just end up with an open wheel LMP1 that requires an engine swap midway after all the fixes you'd need. I'd probably just rather run an LMP1 since you'd be losing so much time in the pits.
Love it when concepts like this are explored
Remember when Porche tested their setup with absolutely no limits for shits and giggles? Man I wish F1 teams did more of this with their older setups. Sadly, FIA regulates F1 heavily so as to not have private testing (which is not accessible for all teams due to monetary limitations) for current gen cars (or next for that matter)...
FOR EVERYONE WANTING TO KNOW WHAT TIME DID HE SET, HE DIDN’T. THAT’S THE SUM UP OF THIS VIDEO 11:13
is that a spoiler spoiler alert?
1:16 you mean 2km? The world, including FIA, speaks metric!
Thank you for mentioning it. I was wondering what 1.2 football stadiums meant in non-freedom units.
8:38 slight mistake there, the drivers for the Renault team in 2018 would be Hulkenberg and Sainz. Neither Ocon nor Alonso was driving for Renault in that year.
Great videos! Id love to see some indy car video's.
Feel the series is very underrated.
The last few indy 500s have been pretty awesome!
They amount of passing and actual racing is so mu greater than F1 and therefore entertaining.
Plus they've got ovals which alot of F1 drivers are scared to race on!
liked the video just because of "ive spent lemans weekend with ferrari" news always happy to see my man being part of something amazing
11:24 The fastest lap in the current layout was set by Kobayashi Kamui in 2017 with 3:14.791
Very cool stuff. Thanks for making videos like this.
It would be pretty interesting to have simulation data with perfect conditions on the lmp car aswell. So you can get a proper comparison
can confirm the sub 3 minute lap. I personally did a 2.38 in a 2007 ferrari f1 car
Ocon and Gasly ran 2 f1 cars and Victor Martins and Theo Pourchaire drove 2 F2 at lemans last year for a french race called GP explorer. It was amazing
Great video!
It would be interesting to see how well the 919 Evo would do here. If I remember correctly, the Evo was about 11% faster in Spa and about 12% faster on the Nordschleife. While F1 did beat the 919 Evo time in Spa later on, Le Mans has a different setup and once the Evo could get better tires and wheels as well as a better overall preparation I would put my money on the Evo...
So how to read that data?
How's the lap time it was?
8:46 Bump drafting in a formula car?? Now I want to see that!
Then I remember that modern F1 cars would disintegrate at merely touching another car.
F1 should race at LeMans for a special double points race. Like indy car has indy 500, if F1 has LeMans on the race calender and it's an opportunity for constructors and drivers championship to gain double points with the same pointing system
Imagine how fast they would be until the first fuel stop... then get lapped by LMGTE cars.
@@SpencerMusic880 By the time they need to stop for refuelling, the F1 cars would be laps ahead. They'd have the time to grab a coffee.
The Circuit de la Sarthe is not up to F1 standards with its FIA Grade 2. Also I think F1 should leave this circuit to prototypes and GT cars and come up with its own Jewel in the Crown event instead of stealing it from another series.
@@SpencerMusic880 LMGTE is a discontinued set of regulations that last raced at the 2023 8 Hours of Bahrain
@@ananastudio Yeah, you get the idea. Monaco doesn't count. We need an endurance special stage for teams to have the opportunity to score double points. I know there are lots of things such as the right track, cars would have to be specialized for that specific event, they'll need to work out a driver swap system, and imprpve the longevity and reliability of the engine...basicallybhave a special engine just for that 1 race. OH, AND MAYBE F1 CARS WILL HAVE HEADLIGHTS AND BRAKE LIGHTS FOR ONCE 😂😂
Nice video!
I believe that the record for the current layout of the track is set by Toyota Gazoo Racing / Kamui Kobayashi 3:14.791 (2017).
I'm french and i Have to say that the Mulsanne straight is between the Mulsanne Corner and Indianapolis corner. The massive straight is the Hunaudieres straight
not sure how good it would be, but id love to see at least one race there with modern f1 cars.
This is wild, I wouldn't have imagine any other F1 team other than Redbull to attempt this with how crazy Redbull can get with their crazy stunts and attempts at world records
the limiting factor would be the gearbox here right? if they could make a 1 off gearbox for higher topspeeds how much faster would they go?
love this new style of editing
we really need that big no rules time attack meeting of different sorts of motorsport. f1 vs hyper cars, maybe some old lmp1 at an iconic track and then just go for it
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Wonder what the 919 evo would do?
They were as fast as F1 on Spa, so it would be hard to predict.
I think faster then F1
@daniel635biturbo that's what I thought. They took it to a few different tracks and it was always up there with F1 times
When you say the numbers in miles, could you also please say the numbers in kilometers as well?
The Porsche's supposed 'record' at Spa was a publicity stunt. The car was completely unregulated built specifically for the stunt. The run was on a closed track. On a non-competition weekend. And yet it was just marginally faster than fully compliant F1 car. F1 cars are still faster.
Can u make a video about the BMW e46 m3 gtr
The only problem with this is that if you modify the GP car to go fast you should allow and unrestricted LM car to also set a time as you are not comparing apples with apples. It would be interesting to see the comparison between a GP car set up for say Monza against a LM car set up for Le Mans. If the GP car need to slow down sooner due to brakes etc. so be it and we would see a fair comparison for the two disciplines.
A full video of this on the car camera please
Great video thanks. It just shows how serious and prepared F1 teams are, for everything.
Not a case of just turning up with a Monza spec car and having Alonso rag it a bit. nope they optimise the car even just for a demo run.
Now, how quick could they have been if they faired in those open wheels???
You didn't mention Gerard Welter who used to turn up in Formula 3000 cars with Group C bodywork. He managed more than one lap (sometimes) and set the record down the straight (405, some say 407 kmh).
I would love to see what would happen with an open wheeler endurance race series
thanks for fixing the sound, much better than before.
Thx for this absolutely interesting video.
I rarely ever watch adds during vids but here, I have to say that I did, as a token of appreciation.
Keep it up sir (and team) 👍
I hope they radically altered the DRS wing to create massive drag when closed but very little drag when open. The slot gap could be doubled if they wanted.
If Alpine believed they could go sub three minutes I wonder what a real F1 team could do.
Thanks for posting. Too bad they could wait for the other demonstration cars to be further along or go before them. I suppose windows of opportunity were a factor. 🏎
I greatly enjoyed this video, as I have in the past been curious about what time an F1 car would do at Le Mans. I’m also wondering what lap time they would be able to at the Nordschleife.
1:50 does anyone know who the driver is here? It looks like Hamilton’s helmet but surely that’s impossible. Is it Piastri? The car doesn’t have a number so I really don’t know.
did i just watch all of this only to not find out what really happened with their lap and time!?
The fastest lap of Le Mans is actually Kamui Kobayashi at a 3:14.791 but that was in qualifying. Its still the official lap record though AFAIK unless they've lightly changed some corner layouts that reset the records?
Amazing content about the 2 greatest motorsports to me: Le Mans and F1 (by this order)
At least say WEC instead of just Le Mans, which is just 1 track in 1 championship
@Starfire_Storm No, its Le Mans not WEC. If there's a F1 race and 24 LM at same time I will watch 24H LM. If there is F1 race and something else, I will watch F1. WEC races I don't watch it from start to finish like I do with Le Mans, and at big extent, 24 Nurburgring, 24 Spa and 12 Bathurst. WEC races I watch more or less the first and last hour, if I m home at that time doing nothing. The other races its on my calendar.
10:45 ok that size comparosson looks very strange ...
I used to play rfactor a lot, trying f1 cars at the different tracks. And Circuit de la Sarthe was one of the favorites. Surprisingly the lap time was around 2:57.000 - 2:59.000 :)
I guess rfactor is a nice simulator game in the end :)
But, as last year's 'pretend' NASCAR showed ('cause let's remember, it was quite some distance from a genuine NASCAR), being able to do a single fast lap is one thing, but doing it over an entire tank of gas (let alone over 24 hours), is COMPLETELY different.
An interesting exercise? Sure. But, even IF an F1 team could build an engine that would last 24 hours (and let's remember, Alpine couldn't achieve that with their Hypercar this year), I doubt very much that the car would beat an LMP1 (or even a Hypercar) over the race distance.
f1 cars are allowed 4 engines per season... remember if they can do sub 3 mins they'll just turn it down a bit when there way ahead
Hi mate! What about that project you were developing, about running a race car upside down inside that custom-made tunnel? Just asking for pure information, since no further info has been given: it was something amazing and I guess everyone would be super excited for it to actually go on!
Let us know, all the best!
Didn't Lotus take off the rear wing of Jochen Rindt's car at Monza on that tragic weekend in 1970?
Yo diría y haría la comparación que la F1 es un Guepardo, solo es para cortas distancias.
En cambio, Le Mans es una maratón. Digo esto porque, en Le Mans los automóviles, mecánicamente hablando deben soportar 24 horas en un circuito. Así que, a la larga, los automóviles de Le Mans le ganan a la F1.
You didn’t mention Alonso’s actual lap time????
Because he didn't get to complete a push lap. The time wouldn't have had any meaning.
@@galihad1980Sector times would be good benchmark on how close he is to their simulations tho
@@galihad1980 well crap! click bait
@@GunnyArtG thats what i thought
i can't get the 20% presale... rather a 15% ; would there be a code that we can use to get that extra 5% ?
Yo siempre he pensado que un hypercar es un F1 con más carroceria jajajaja, muy buen video!
how much time does a regular fastest lemans car go? is it much more than 3 minutes. This is missing from the end of video
In 1988 , the WM-Peugeot P88 holds the all time record which can now not be broken dues to the chicanes @ 252Mph on the Mulsanne Straight
honourable mention to the gorgeous Silk Cut Jag (XJR-9), which did 245 mph.
@@juchetony1910 saw that at the old RAF Abingdon doing a runway race against a Jaguar aircraft in 1989!
I found the perfect track for Williams!!!
The Mulsanne chicanes were added in 1989 after the WM Peugeot had run 408K(about 252mph) the year before which will stand for ever as the fastest speed ever recorded!
2:45 I've sat in this room. 😎
Do I have the pic's og sim?
Would u mind sharing them I'm use curious
I thought i would see the lap performed by the f1 car as well, not just a documentary...😢
LMP1 and Hypercar are veru limited by the rulles, could be way faster! Would be amazing a new Group C car!!
Imagine Ferrari making a 499P Evo (not the Modificata, that is too softened up for amateurs) like the 919 Evo and going around beating the 919 Evo records where it can!
Damn that would spark some Porsche revenge :)
@barath4545 well, that would be one hell of a challenge: 919 Evo is based on an LMP1, a way more complex and faster car overall... even a "standard" 919 would probably be considerably faster than a 499p Modificata so yeah, not a realistic thing at all imo lol
I don't see a link to the NASCAR video.
2:46
Anyone know what monitor arms they are please?
Wouldn’t the comparison on the Monza lap not be accurate since they used the 2018 Renault? Shouldn’t you use the time from that year?
One thing I have learned from this. The engineers have taken all the fun out of racing.
Glad to see Daniel Ricciardo having a successful TH-cam channel!
I believe "terminal velocity" only applies to freefalling objects. Like Alpine's racing career, but not the car.
Next time I hop in my rig, I'll have some Assetto Corsa work to do at Le Mans, in various F1. But the first one will probably be Alonso's 2006 Renault !
i saw you in the ferrari hospitality I should have talk to you I adore your videos
Isnt lap record held by Kobayashi with the time 3:14.714 i believe. (Maybe the the .714 isnt right but the 3.14 should be)
Yes Kobayashi did a 3:14 in qualifying. He cited the fastest race lap for some reason
needed subtitles to understand that mumbly Alpine guy
What is happening at Project Inversion? Anyone??
what was his lap time until he had to slow down? how much faster was he?
The best cars suit for that are Nascar or Indy car!! They can endure more specifically the indycar can use the Indy 500 set-up can run more than 235mph!!
man.... and there I was waiting for Dominic to stop and say: "Are they subtitles?? What do I need subtitles for?" 🤣🤣🤣
it would be a blast if the day before the le mans 24 there will be an event where every series/types of cars would be given a chance to compete for quickest lap. good entertainment that.
Estaban Ocon's speed trap (8:35) of 351.3 kph = 218.3 mph, not 221 mph. Likewise, Alonso's 332.1 kph = 206.4 mph, not 205 mph.
Love your videos, always interesting, thanks.
Now i gotta see if i can match that in gt7. Sub 3 minute lap!
I hope you are making a video about the Verstappen / Norris incidents during the last GP