Kia EV6 vs Audi Q4 e-tron HEAD-TO-HEAD: Do the Koreans build a better car than the Germans?
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10 years ago, the mere idea of a Kia with a price tag £50,000 would have been unthinkable. Today, Kia is at the sharp end of the electric car revolution and has a queue of buyers who are quite happy to blow a small fortune to get into one of the Korean brand’s products.
The electrification of the car market has turned badge snobbery on its head. Brands like Kia, Hyundai, ŠKODA and MG are giving established names such as Audi and BMW a real run for their money and proving that having a badge that impresses the neighbours won’t necessarily get you the best car.
Join Ginny and Tom as they pitch the Kia EV6 against the Audi Q4 e-tron head to head. With just a few hundred pounds between them in price, it’s a straight fight to discover which is the best electric car. Do you agree with the verdict? Is there a different car you would choose? Let us know in the comments below.
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I have a Kia EV6 and it is just an amazing car, couldn't be any happier with it, got very lucky when ordering as I only had to wait 6 weeks for delivery.
6 weeks! My partner ordered hers in April and delivery isn't until February 😢
Yep got my GT Line a couple of weeks ago (2 month wait). Very happy with it. Our other car is an Audi A4 Avant (diesel) and that is also a fantastic car for our needs. Getting the EV means we can spare the mileage on the Audi a little, save it for the longer blasts and when we take the doggo out. However having just returned from France with it we kept an eye out for EV charging and we reckon with a bit of planning the Kia could probably have done the same trip. So when we swap out the Audi in a few years a 2nd EV might now be a consideration
I have an EV6, awesome car, ordered mid Sept 2021and took delivery 26th October. Not sure how I got it so quick but not complaining 👍, I love it
Are you aware Robert that your car was made using child labour in the USA. This makes me so utterly angry beyond words. Sorry to give this now when it’s obvious that u realy like your car. I own a leaf at the moment and would have love to have brought an EV6 . But i just cant 😢 now.
I have had my EV6 since October 2021 and still love it. Not a creak or a rattle on it. Impeccably reliable and super refined and smooth.
This is a keeper.
I appreciate everyone has different tastes but I still love the interesting way that it looks. All those awards can’t all be wrong
EV6 the better overall car all day long, better handling, quicker, 7 yr warranty, V2L, faster charging and when you compare the standard kit, the EV6 gives you much more bang for your buck and the EV6 ace card? Those stunning looks vs the frumpy E-Tron.
Agree and If you want a car that's closer to the more traditional look and size of the Q4 then it's also worth considering the Nero EV. Compare it spec for spec with the Q4 and save yourself a lot of money. (Important for us pensioners who can't' take advantage of the company car tax advantage) Top spec Nero EV is £43k in the UK and other than DC charging speed has just about everything. So no good if you do lot of long trips but fine if you don't
The EV6 (GT preferably) anyday anytime.
I agree, the EV6 is a far better proposition than the dowdy Audi
EV6 is an ugly car. That's the reason not to choose it.
@@tkt557 Ha, all those awards and accolades the EV6 has had, including European car of the year must all be wrong. And that huge long waiting list of people are all waiting for an "ugly" car are all wrong too, nice one 😂👌
I orderd my EV6 and agree with most things you say. But disagree with I would buy any batch. Kia have come a long way but has been a solid reliable brand.
One thing many miss in these reviews is Kia, Hyundai and Porsche all use the 800v architecture created by Rimac. Now Bugatti Rimac. You can see why the Korean tech is top notch!
wait it was created by rimac???
I compared the both to make a choice and decided on the KIA EV6 GT Line, which I had delivered 2 days ago. I think it's an amazing car, so very modern, I'm afraid that I am over all the old fashioned European brands and them trying to alter their traditional design features to catch up with the modern world.
After 10,000 miles, still delighted with my EV6 AWD. EVs are subverting brand snobbery, and in the EV era, Kia are rapidly becoming the new Audi. The Q4 e-Tron wasn't available when I ordered the EV6, but nothing about it makes me wish I'd chosen it. Blander, slower charging - and, when specc'd to the EV6 level - more expensive. In fact, you can get the AWD EV6 for around the same price as a decently-kitted Q4 RWD. EV6 build quality is excellent - I came from a Lexus - with not a single rattle or squeak. Can't recommend it highly enough.
Nice Kia electric
It's not a bad car, but to call Kia "the new Audi" is delusional. Totally different class of car and not the same buyer.
I was so close to getting an EV6 but ended up choosing a Model Y because of efficiency, tech and its operating system. Now as soon as I got it I ended up with the model where parking sensors have been removed lol.........
I agree with your conclusions. I was looking at an electric replacement for my Audi A4 Avant diesel (company car). After being disappointed by charging speeds on the Enyaq and frustrated by the inability to test a Mustang Mach-E, I tried the EV6 and was convinced straight away. I had to convince my employer to put it on the list, and then I endured 6 months of "You're replacing your Audi with a Kia??" from colleagues.
However, as soon as it arrived, I knew I had made the right choice. Everyone who sees it loves the look and if they get a ride, they're very impressed. Even my mother in law liked the Remote Parking feature when I sent the car away with her in the backseat 😆.
So I'm with you about becoming brand agnostic in the current era... although I might want a shot of a Genesis GV60 if I get the chance!
The main reason for this is in my opinion, that the KIA EV6 is one of the best cars of this brand. And the Q4 is one of the worst Audis available. There is too much MEB platform visible including poor materials in the doors e.g. An Audi A3 is much more diversified from its platform twin VW Golf for example. The Q4 is not worth its money, the EV6 has a much better price value ratio.
"You're replacing your Audi with a Kia??"-- Reply to that with "I'm downsizing because I'm poor". This will prevent people from borrowing money from you.
Definitely the right decision. Tried Mach-e whose finish is poor at the price and the drive comes not close. Former BMW M Group head Albert Biermann was the teacher behind a young group of engineer getting a chance to prove what they are able. This is another world with treating humans differently and empower them like at Tesla to take responsibility. So KIA is the new Audi and it outbests even the EQE with double the price with the same features. By the way the unique damper system from ZF Sachs is only used by Mercedes AMG and Maserati and is even better than the air suspension of the EQE, we have a frunk for cables also, intelligent HUD, automatic park function, more room inside, better seating in the back and no shining display in sunlight with these nice fingerprints looking no so cool. And last but not least a better noiseless A/C. Even with rear steering axle the sinking ⭐️ star handles not better on our narrow mountain roads and with the KIA you exactly know where the car goes. It drives like a number smaller sportscar and I go to race trainings every year so I well able to compare different makes. In 54 years I owned a lot of performant cars costing me a fortune for servicing and gas. 😎🤓😜
P.S. At the Golf Club my Kia is besides iPace and other premium brands one of the best looking car. But of course the are more Teslas around, replacing all BMW, Audi or Volkswagen. Did you know that Hyundai Group, Porsche and Rimac-Bugatti work together? So the leading 800 Volts system is not by guess or mistake. It’s no shame to go with the best, and the 🌎 has changed from Motorola and Nokia to iPhone and 🍏 was not known before in the industry. Change comes again when HiPhi, BYD, Aiways, Geele, Polestar, Nio etc. hit the market with outstanding quality products. So we certainly do not ride dead horses…😎😝😂
I had pulled the trigger on a EV6 AWD GTLineS back in November 2021 but when the 3 months delivery date became 12 months I went in search of an alternative - at Fully Charged UK Live 2022 Farnborough saw the GV60 for the first time - same E-GMP platform as the EV6 and Ioniq 5 but Hyundai’s luxury brand and it shows. Everyone I saw who sat in the car exclaimed “Wow”. I placed an order and got a pre-configured fully loaded GV60 RWD Premium in less than 6 weeks.
No gloss black interior - mostly metal fascia and trim with a few plastic silver bits, Nappa leather, fantastic suede headliner and suede interior door panels and leatherette dash and upper door ledges makes for a really luxurious feel. The quality of the rear cabin is the same as the front. Hardly any hard plastic anywhere in the interior even the lower door cards are soft touch! All round laminated glass and noise cancellation, Band & Olufsen Stereo, logo projected puddle lights, projected on road dotted reverse lines, rotating sphere/gear shift- it really is a lovely car. Not directly comparable to the EV6 and Ionic 5 as both of those have bigger boots and are longer. The 4.515m of the GV60 is nice and compact for UK multi-storey car parks but that extra 165mm of the EV6 or even 120mm of the Ioniq 5 makes for more rear cabin space and boot space. If a cavernous boot is not a requirement ( a family of 4 into camping I think would struggle with the GV60) and the styling appeals then a GV60 could be a good choice.
The E-GMP platform in its now many guises is simply brilliant! The Kia/Hyundai group I think have simply got the sub £75K EV market sewn up - with the EV9 and Ionic 7 aren’t nearly all the bases covered now? - just the smaller EVs from them to come to market now.
Great to have this range of choice.
I got the Kia just before Christmas after test driving both these, Audi wanted extra for a reverse camera and cruise control, and the higher your specification was, the less colours you got to choose from, absolute jokers
Yeah, the ridiculously low trim levels for standard German cars is a long established trick used to ensure that their depreciation appears too be far better than it is. You end up effectively being forced to add anything up to 10k or even more in extras (and being German, none of those extras comes cheap), but the list price is what is used for calculations on depreciation, not price paid.
And it is truly ridiculous that cruise control isn't standard, seeing as it is basically just adding the switchgear, all the management features are designed in from the start.
@@davidcolin6519 The top trim on the Audi (Prestige) is only about $4k USD more than the base model... hardly 10k.
@@JustMe99999 That may be the case where you are, not where I am in Spain.
@@JustMe99999 Yeah, there is only €4k difference between bottom and top specs in Spain. But even getting the top spec, in order to match the KIA or Hyundai specs, you'd still have to add a whole load of extras to the Q4.
That came to a total of €72K, which is another €9K on top of the supposedly top spec Q4..
The Ionic 5 to the same spec is €63K. The KIA comes in at €65K
@@JustMe99999 Oh, and the Ionic 5 and KIA really don't have that many things you CAN add, The Koreans come with virtually everything as standard.
Not only that, but I can guarantee that the prices for the Hyundai and KIA are going to be within about €500 of what I'd actually pay. OTOH, the list of options and packs that come up on the Audi site make me have very, very grave doubts that the price for the q4 would be anywhere near.
I‘m German and drove Audi all my life but when they decided to cut down the engines instead of bringing innovations, they lost me. For me my RS5 V8 is the last real Audi. My new car now is the best EV you can buy. I never thought I spend nearly 70k € on that brand but they convinced me. I bought my car when it was still on the ship. Of course it’s an EV6 AWD and I love it. Love my RS5 too and will keep it but won’t buy another Audi or a VW group car. Just not worth it anymore.
I have choosed the EV 6. And driving it since a month, i think this was a good choise. And it is WACKEN proofed. Running my electric stuff in my tent by the Car. So cold Beer, light, etc.
And once i also was sleeping inside the car. It was quite and cooler.
Come on Tom the Kia's warranty is not just a little bit longer, it's 7 years v 3 years, no brainer. Me, I'd choose the Ioniq 5. Looks like nothing else on the road.
The traditional German premium brands are in for a tough fight. After years of dominance the explosive growth of EV throws the rules up in the air. There are new contenders like rivan, and even Tesla (no longer the upstart start-up but still the new rival to the German brands), then you have the strong brands like Kia and Hyundai that see it as an opportunity to leap frog with exciting, new thinking. It appears the German brands such as VW, Audi and BMW, after some interesting ideas such as the original BMW i8 and i3 have retreated into their comfortable spaces where their EVs are conservative and in many cases indistinguishable from their ICE equivalent. It’ll be interesting to see which strategy wins out.
Do not forget about pace of innovation the German brands are not able to play that card. Tesla is said to make 3000 improvements per day and not in 10 years. There is a completely different way to work with real people in flat structures and not the old German pyramid style. Koreans have recognized that also a gave young teams and engineers a chance to work with the very best. When Herbert Diess was pointing at the point he had to leave! What Blume can do nobody knows but it´s anyhow too late when BYD, Nio, Aiways and Geely are coming, than it‘s game over. These companies are computer or either battery companies.
I bought an i4 simply because it looks and more importantly, drives exactly like its ICE cousin.
I'd agree with that. I find it almost impossible to differentiate different VAG offerings these days; VWs blend into SEATs blend into Cupras which are differentiated how? From Skodas and Audis? Yeah, Cupras have bronze highlights and Audis have that godawful "grill".
Time was when German cars stood out because they were bold or cool. Now they're boring and/or ugly.
@@raftonpounder6696 Lame. If you wanted a car that drives like a gasser, you should have gotten the gasser. EVs are better. Why hamper them with the inferior characteristics of an ICE-car?
Sure it’s cool, but BMW could have done much better. For instance, why does it weigh so much?!! They couldn’t strip weight out anywhere? There’s a 1,000 lb difference between the i4 and the Tesla Model 3. Abysmal.
@@TecnamTwin it doesn’t affect it in any way. It actually handles better than the ICE version. And besides, what a stupid thing to say. What difference should a change of fuel make to a car? That’s like saying diesel cars should look different from petrol cars. The whole point is that it’s just an alternative fuel source not an alternative lifestyle. Sad.
Completely agree with this review. EV6 is so much better than the Audi on all measurements (except perhaps purchaser perception, until they drive the Kia). I preferred and purchased the Hyundai Ioniq 5 over both. But good to have EV choice. Keep up the entertaining vids
Agree with the looks on the outside of the Ioniq 5 but the inside of the EV6 is better in my opinion. Was a hard decision but happy to know both are great.
Recently Took took an EV6 , GT S RWD model , for test drive about a week ago and it was awesome ,superb specifications , and Quick too ! 😎
if budget allows it’s defo on my shortlist for next lease 😉
EV6 for me! I had an A6 Allroad for over 3 years and it was wonderfully comfortable and easy to drive with good economy but...
I've worked my way though:- ID3, ID4,Tesla Model3 , Q4, Cupra Born, Ford Mach -e. I've also looked at the Polestar 2, The Ionic5 and the Ev6. I ordered the Audi Q4 (Sportback S Line 40). I can't wait until March next year :-).
I went kia ev6 gt line s awd and it is soooooooo much better than the Audi. Its on another level. I feel the lady I the video was pro audi anyway. Car wow did some real world range tests and the ev6 beat all the competition. Audi like the other established brands are playing catch up in the ev sector.
Have done 3000km in my EV^ GT Line AWD. It is a great car, the best I have ever driven, had a BMW330i for a few years! Never driven a Audi e-tron so can't compare. Did drive an Polestar 2 the front was loverly but couldn't get in the back, so drop't that idea.
yeah the Polestar is like driving a burqa. Small windows and the rear window is a joke.
EV6 for the win!.. the Q4 already looks 10 years old compared to the EV6.
I think it's that boring gray color that adds to the frumpiness. Reminds me of the Apple vs Windows commercial.
@@johnmcgill3603 I also think that Audi's current "Look" is getting to look incredibly aged, and that "Grill" treatment was OK when it appeared, but now it not only looks odd, it is also looking really old.
@@davidcolin6519 There is a certain trend among the Germans to strictly follow their brand's aesthetic statement. It worked in the past - A BMW should look like a BMW. An Audi should look like an Audi. Doesn't matter what year. In fact, Porsche got into "trouble" when their 911 headlights detracted from the traditional round shape in the 90's.
I remember a Porsche engineer say something like "We make a bit of change, and next year a bit of change, and a bit of change the year after. And then when we go too far we go back a little bit to the past."
Perhaps we're starting to experience a shift, wherein the new generation of buyers want something really different, and the Germans being extra conservative, it is not working in their favor like in the past?
@@johnmcgill3603 I don't think so.
I understand very well that a company creates a "Look", a family resemblance. But it seems to me that VAG group cars look too similar, no significant differentiation between any of them. Plenty of car groups are able to maintain the same family resemblance while being able to differentiate between models.
I just think that VAG are spreading their resources way too thin. It seems to me that the same designers work on every single range. In the past, Skoda had its own image, as did SEAT and VW. Now they've added the Cupra brand but haven't differentiated anything, just added copper highlights.
And the interiors are all generic black, no matter that it's a lowly Skoda or a premium Audi, the colour palette is exactly the same.
German interiors were always thus, but when you are being made to look staid by spectacular interiors from newcomers, just continuing on with those ghastly black interiors stops looking clever, it starts looking boring
At least Hyundai KIA offer some distinctively different interiors; light and airy in the Ioniq 5, dark colours in the EV6, but there are actual colours in the EV6, even if they're all dark
Conservatism has always been the German way. However, the Beetle nearly broke VAG because they couldn't break away from their own image.
It seems to me that VAG (and, for that matter BMW and M-B) might be about to commit the sins of the past.
I wonder how long they have to turn it around.
EV6 over Q4 every day in the week 👊
Loving the channel. You are asking the same questions I am.
EV6 is the winner. No doubt.
I just picked up an EV6 GT
I asked the sales guy about options. He said ‘what colour would you like?’ Everything is included. At £60k, 800v charging and 0-60mph in 3.5 seconds there’s nothing to touch it!
I have been looking at electric for quite some time and have finally ordered my car. The Audi Q4, The Ford Mustang Mac E, The Kia EV6, and the VW ID4 all went into a bag, the stand-out car was the EV6. So there you have it, I am waiting for it to be built, the EV6 GT Line S AWD in Yacht blue. Can't wait!!
Just purchased EV6 Wind RWD….OMG! Love love love. It’s plenty quick, comfortable, quiet,
dare I say fun to drive. It’s looks? Can’t stop staring!
Your review pretty much sums up where I ended up. I’ve been driving a German made car for 15 years with my last car being an SQ5. When looking at the EV market and comparing features, autonomy, warranty period, price, the ev6 was hard to beat. So after waiting 18 months for delivery I finally received it two weeks ago…..what an impressive machine. In racing red it is a real head turner. Do I miss my SQ5? Maybe the ride height, getting in and out…. Other than that, nope.
Great balanced review. I agree that the traditional premium brands are being pushed to up their game which can only be good for the consumer.
I've had the EV6 for half a year now, and it's great. Also have the XC40 P8. The KIA is the one I use if my wife has not taken it first.
The Kia seems a bit more dynamic to me. Not too keen on the distracting lava effects at the foot of the screen every time any data appeared. I thought my screen was playing up at first. Otherwise, thanks for a very interesting, informative and balanced comparison.
Overall the Kia any day - the Audi genrally looks outdated and frumpy. For your £50K+ Audi have skimped on the interior materials and you also get 'horse and cart' rear brakes (drum brakes)!!!
This was an excellent and impartial review. Which one would I choose? They are both practical, so it comes down to the driving feel and so we now have to book a couple of test drives. I have a current BMW i3 and a 3 series diesel, we a thinking of consolidating to one around family car. We test drove the model Y but cancelled our order because of a few reasons: ride quality and the potential depreciation (now that they have ramped up production from Shanghai). The Kia's relatively low price and brand reliability are appealing factors at present., but I have seen some on the road and think that they look rather "different" !
I'd choose the GV60. 😋 Just the EV6 with more luxury and less common on the road.
I agree with your assessment. Inside Audis are really good. But Kia and sister brand Hyundai have stolen a march on the premium German brands. Both have their loyal following but I think the Koreans are gaining more new customers with their innovations and offerings. I am one such convert having ordered an electric from Hyundai. In my day job I drive different cars from all manufacturers and a mix of ICE and electric vehicles. Older Kias and Hyundais seem to wear better than their German counterparts of similar age. I also find that the Skoda and Audi versions of the ID4 are much better than the Volkswagen.
EV6 all day long . . . that's, of course, if I could afford either ;)
Definitely the ev6 it's just a better all round car.
Even as a true Audi fan I think I would test drive the EV6 first as it seems to be a better car.
I'm keeping my A4, EV6 is second car. I still love the A4, it handles way better than any dad wagon estate has a right to, the spec I got has nearly all the toys and it munches motorway miles in comfort. But if you test drive the EV6 you'll want one. If you appreciate the Audi qualities, getting into the Kia you'll appreciate the quality touches they do, in their own way. Not quite as dynamic, not quite the same fit and finish and ergonomics as the Audi but its damn close where it doesn't quite match and in places is better (the driver assists on the Kia are better handled that on the Audi). It feels a bit like when I went from BMW to Audi, its different because its unfamiliar after years in one manufacturer's idea of controls and interior but once you're used to it you can see the quality. And that's the feeling I got with the Kia - it was unfamiliar but it felt like going from BMW to Audi rather than German Brand to Dacia or something. EV6 (and Ioniq5) are damn fine cars, that also happen to be EVs. If I compare to the older EVs like the Leaf, the iPace, the i3 this new generation are a jump ahead. I'd even risk the Tesla fanboy rage and say I preferred this over the model 3 (altho the Y is perhaps still a step ahead).
I think the Audi might look better with a black grill.
I test drove the Q4 eTron literally yesterday. It was the premiere trim with a sticker price of over $63k. I must say I was a bit disappointed with the amount of hard plastic in the interior, including the vast amounts of piano black. In addition, many of the cameras (including the front one) were missing due to the parts shortage and as a result there was no bird’s eye view available. Having owned a Tesla Model 3 and currently driving a Volvo C40 Recharge (both less expensive in the US than the eTron), I would select either one of those over the Audi any day of the week
How does a C40 feel after Tesla? Could you please compare them? Might order a C40 this fall.. hesitating, however.. maybe Model Y..
@@TheMaximBond I owned a Tesla Model 3 Performance for 2 years. The backstory is I was sideswiped by another driver and my Model 3 was totaled. I had pre-ordered another one but the wait was long. I test drove the XC40, the C40 and the Polestar 2 on a whim and ended up loving the C40 so cancelled the Tesla order and bought it. Have had it since May. Where the C40 wins is refinement, materials, ride, comfort, quietness and utility. It’s perfect for me. Where I miss the Tesla is the crazy acceleration, the quality of the sound system, the software (definitely the software) as well as the superior charging infrastructure. That said, I find it easier to be emotionally attached to the C40. It has more personality - less like a sleek computer. If you are in the market (not being sure if this will be your first EV), I’d say test drive the Tesla Model Y, the Hyundai IONIQ 5 (and Kia EV6), the Ford Mach E and the VW ID.4 along with the Volvo/Polestar cars. Where the Model Y wins is software and the charging network. Plus if you love tech, Tesla is your next car. The other models all bring their own charm and somewhat higher levels of build quality and refinement. At the end of the day, it depends on what’s most important to you. I hope this helps. Happy shopping!!
@@alexc6946 thank you for such a detailed comment! It’s really helpful!
@@alexc6946 I like the look of the Polestar and Volvo cars a lot, but they're Chinese owned (which means $$$ to the Communist Party of China) which is a definite "No" for me.
Kia ev6 👍
Kia EV6 looks like an amazing car! plus I hear nothing but good things about it. BMW i4 M50 and Kia Ev6 are my favorite electric cars on the market right now. In all honesty I'm looking forward to when the EV6 576 HP version hits the market.
I had an Audi Q5 quattro S-Line from new and after 2 years the pull of owning an EV was too much so I swapped, but to the Kia E Niro 4+. I did not miss the Audi as Kia had done a great job and the range is amazing. The EV6 has launched since, along with the Q4 E Tron, but I would still choose the Kia as they have completely upped their game in the Electric age and all the standard car makers delayed and have been happy to provide just enough increases each time to sell new cars.
I also had a Q5 (not s-line) Hated every moment of ownership, glad I only had it for 2 years as well
I think it is a no brainer, the Kia EV6 is just next generation compared to "Phat" Audi ETron, as Nyland calls him.
What I find sick is the pricing today. If you take the EV6 and choose the GT Line design (not the GT, mind you), you get 228hp and when speccing it with all that is really necessary like heat pump, you end up north of 62000€. I find that crazy for the performance.
When I looked at it in December 2021 (and it came in second place on my list of choice, very very close to the Model 3 LR), it was still substantially less expensive than the Model 3 LR (here in CZ that was already at 1.5 Mio CZK or 60,000€, now even more due to weak Euro). Now it is more expensive...
But it is a super great car, totally love it, especially in blue...
Its a no brainer really. You get *a lot* more for the money choosing the EV6. And it loks fresher than the tbh naff Q4 e-tron that looks like any mid-range SUV, especially with that silly looking BIG cardboard excuse of a grill. (looks like something we used to put on the grills 20-30 years ago to keep the engine from freezing). It do look nice inside but not Audi nice. The EV6 is cheaper and got lots more "extras" as standard vs all the competing brands and models.
You didn't mention that on road trips, the EV6 (or any E-GMP) charges much faster than any MEB. The peak charge rate is almost double, and the charge curve is such that you save quite a bit of time, if you are going far enough.
if ev6 came out with audi badge, it would have made triple the sale it’s doing now
Considering both but concerned about waiting years for delivery. Have an E-Niro now, just over a year lease to run, had Audis and BMWs before.
Test drove and checked out many EV cars. Polestar was like driving a Burqa. VW ID had bad and slow control screen. Audi was very nice inside but pricy. EV6 was best all round driving and comfort. Its HUGE in the back. Bought one for £50k - there were 4 other buyers that day for that car. I got lucky. 3 weeks later the same car is now worth £57k. But I can't part with it.
I'd have liked the option of 'heat pump' air con. From what I've read the Kia EV6 has this feature, which will save you on electricity consumption in the depths of winter. i.e. Better range. I don't think either of you mentioned this.
Thats on the GT Line S model (the AWD) and the GT model. GT Line as tested doesn't have that as standard.
@@TimStewartPlus thanks Tim for clarification. I'd like to see it 'standard' for colder climates like UK. Going standard for housing globally. With range anxiety in cars, it even makes more sense. I'd like to see it as an option in vans for vanlifers as well.
The Koreans might be up on par if not surpassed the Germans on the Tech side, but they certainly still lack behind in the overall rigidity build quality.
Great review interesting sun tans 😀
Nice comparison. Did you goof up the editing around 13:00min or did you just REALLY want to bring that point across? 🤔
I chose the EV6. I haven't tried the e-tron so I can't compare but I would be happy with that also. I have had a couple of Jaguar i-pace drivers tell me they would prefer the EV6 to theirs, if only they could get their hands on one! I consider myself very lucky to own my EV6.
Should have bought an i4.
I-pace is nice in the front. But TINY in the back seats.
@@raftonpounder6696 just to be an ass and steal 350 charging spot right from Ioniq5, Ev6, GV60, and Taycan right?
@@JulyOverland eh?
Have to agree that brands like Hyundai/Kia have overtaken the traditional "premium" brands. Better looking, more spacious, better use of energy, better range and better value. A no brainer.
Can´t stop thinkink the Jag E-Pace everytime I watch an EV6 review; the Q4 looks good, very Autoshow design
Q4 looks like a car....a beautiful one.... most of EV looks one way or another strange. It's a matter of taste
WHAT ABOUT SUPPLY CHAIN DELIVERY OF REPAIR PARTS? which brand has a quicker delivery of parts? news reports appear to suggest germany's manufacturing sector is severly crippled. my priority concerns for any car : 1) reliability 2) warranty 3) repair-ability
V2L crush Audi... with V2L makes EV6 the ultimate camping... you can cook anything with it.... even you can cut the tree with el chainshaw..
On the subject of efficiency, which of these cars have a 'heat pump'?
Drove them both. No comparison. Kia all the way!!
I think large touch screens are the think I like least about modern cars, quite distracting and not intuitive for a casual user. I also suspect that when we look back in 20 years it will be the most dated feature. I'm sure something will replace them assuming we are still allowed to drive then. The Kia wins on looks alone for me.
As an owner of numerous EVs this comparison isn’t even close. EV6 is the far superior vehicle.
Excellent car but i was just told by a dealership that the waiting time for the EV6 is 30 (!) months. Getting the car 2.5 years after ordering is a bit much so i'll have to look at alternatives.
You just need to shop around, Hyundai and Kia usually have more inventory than other brands
Cuv s are designed for a different purpose than sports sedans or sports cars. Acceleration is important but interior accommodation would balance the equation for most family vehicles.
I sat in an EV6 today for the first time. Underwhelmed with low driver headroom and not possible to put your feet under the front seats for passengers in the back. So to answer the question Kia or Audi, i I'd take the Ioniq 5.
Are you sure you drove an EV6. Its MASSIVE in the back. More leg room than BA 1st class. You can adjust the seats so you can fit a tall person as the range of movement is huge on the front seats.
@@farazvfx I didn't drive it i just sat in it (at a Kia dealers I was there for another purpose). When sat in back no way to fit my feet under the drivers seat so it felt cramped.
And when i sat in the drivers seat my head was uncomfortably close to the roof and I'm only 5ft 11. I've since seen another review on the EV6 which pointed out rear passenger cant put their feet under the drivers seat so i dont think its just me
I looked at a Q4 but when specified to match a Tesla Model 3 standard range it was nearly £900 per month on lease! Needless to say the Tesla got my money and I’ve enjoyed watching many of these cars queuing to charge!
Schadenfreude is the only true joy, right?
I'm German and I am very disappointed by the q4 etron. I thought it would be better than the first etron AND more pensive. No way, VW chose the EMB platform which was outdated very fast.
Tomorrow I go to my KIA partner to order a EV6 GT. A 70.000 € Audi (base price with extras) is a joke in comparison
Must say, the Audi looks a bit boring next to Kia.
Though I am sure it's an excellent EV.
Agree on the winner. Please please please compare efficency in the international standard of kWh/100km even if its subtitled 98% of the country's in the world uses these measures.
Q4’s good (though I’d maybe edge towards the Enyaq for it’s bigger boot and better value), but it can’t beat EV6 overall. Kia have worked wonders with this car!
Waiting for our Q4 50 to be delivered, hopefully by year end. It has its compromises and I wish the charging speed was better, but we really like the look and feel. That said, if there were no wait times and you asked me today, I would be tempted with the GV60 - not the Ioniq5 or EV6. A bit more premium with the same amazing architecture.
Although the Audi has the premium name brand to support it and I like the Audi brand, Kia has definitely stepped up the game. After shopping around at the peak of high gas prices, I only waited about 2 weeks to get my 2022 Kia Ev6 GT RWD last June, and love it still after crossing over 10K miles. Every time I open the garage it is missing, because my wife keeps taking it when she goes out. I would like to see what Audi does to maybe increase their charging capabilities, range, and maybe consider price matching to make it a tougher decision.
One thing not mentioned is that you literally don't get what is pretty much considered standard at this point without paying extra if you pick the Audi Q4.
TL:DR
EV6, If you are smart
Q4, if you are a sucker
2:00 I think it's daft to suggest any EV is "all the better" for looking like its ICE counterparts (a familiar trope atm from motoring journos) - that means the vehicle isn't fully optimised for electrification or it'd have more cabin room, less bonnet, be more efficient etc which is a negative for the buyer.
Audi. Even if it is just for the badge. Not so fast Kia, I'm not paying similar prices for a similarly sized Kia when there is an Audi out there
You should get an Audi badge tattooed on your forehead🙃
I loved the EV6 Wind. I loved the Q4 just as much. I ended up with the Audi. Kia was way too proud of their car and wanted $10k more for the car than Audi wanted. Yes, the Kia is faster 0-60 by about a second, but that means more tire wear, and the tires on these things are expensive. About $250 each. We’ve all seen the articles claiming poor tire life on these things. Well, faster isn’t always better and the Audi is more than fast enough. I’ve verified the 5.5 second 0-60 in the Q4 many times 😊. More than adequate.
FYI I leased the vehicle with plans to buy it in 2 years. Calculated cost of the vehicle when I compared the price of both cars is LEASE PMT x MONTHS plus DOWN PMT plus RESIDUAL. Neither vehicle qualifies for the Fed tax credits but both manufacturers are offering competitive incentives against vehicles that do qualify. Both vehicles qualified for the Colorado tax credit, which is conveniently given at Point of Sale. My calculated overall price of the Audi is under $50k. Now, the biggest difference is in upfront price. The Audi lease is almost $200 per month less with the same down payment (due at signing). That’s a big deal because if I don’t keep the vehicle the Audi will cost me about $4000 less, and I think both residuals are inflated which would mean cost to keep the car is even less. (Learn to negotiate the residual at the end of the lease. Yes, you can do that.)
I’ll also add Audi provides a Lvl 1 mobile charger and Lvl 2 wall charger at no additional cost. Kia wanted $600 more to walk out with a charger.
One other thing. The Q4 has about 3/4” more clearance under the vehicle. That’s a big deal in an area with pot holes, high curbs, and snow.
I moved from Audi (to Tesla) nearly seven years ago, and the main factor was that Audi - especially their dealer network - had got lazy, were taking brand loyalty for granted, and took every opportunity to rip customers off. I've never looked back - and in my book they're still behind the times, as this review confirms. If I was looking, I'd choose the Kia of these two, all day long.
Top 3 German brands charge an arm and a leg for their annual "mandatory" service a,b,c when Koreans not only do it for free but they come pick your Genesis from home and deliver it back when done
EV 6
With Ginny in the passenger seat please 🙏 😁
The ev6 is really great, but the Audi seems so more posh and refined. Excellent review !
Hi from Portugal! I have made my choice 1 year ago and I would do it again…Q4!!! Simply love it!
Regards and keep up the good job👏
JC
EV6 replaced my BMW, love it.
Great video
Saw an EV6 on the m1 yesterday, looked stunning ... the audi looks nothing new. Kia better specs lower price better warranty its a no brainer
EV6 every time
No mention of the cheap plastics in the Audi? Audi are definitely falling behind in quality compared to their last gen cars.
How would you compare an EV6 to a Tesla MY?
I want to move the e-tron bc it's so attractive. but specs are a let down. also, I have the original e-tron, and though I love it, everything I hate about the interior, they have kept on the interior of this.
What about the Jag? Where does it stand between those 2?
I used to drive BMW or Mercedes till I switched to VW ID4 now and KIA EV6 next. Thereby guided by specs, performance, efficiency and price balance. The brand is not as important to me as it used to be especially as quality is comparable to identical.
I think the Kia looks way better from the front than the Audi does, but I really dislike the lights/styling at the rear of Kia.
You should check out some night videos, really looks cool when all lit up.
I took off the Kia badge on the back and it is much cleaner look.
Well for those that do not have a mortgage to pay off, I suppose they could settle on one of these but No I'm sticking with my ICE Fiesta. It has everything I need to transport me from A to Z.
Nice to see that with EVs brand is not so much the most desired stuff. It is all about the tech.
Kia now makes the better car, but Audi still has more status. And status is still extremely important for a lot of people. It takes a long time for a brand to reach that status, Volvo is an example of a brand that is slowly getting to the level of the germans. But Volve always had a sort of semi luxurious aura, it's far more difficult to change the brand of a car that used to have a cheap image to that of a luxury status car. That's why it is perhaps the smartest strategy to just launch a new brand like Volvo/Geely did with Polestar as its far more easier to reflect a certain image when you start from scratch.
One key difference, you can walk into a Kia dealership most of the time in shorts and a t-shirt and still be taken seriously, but 9/10 times the Audi dealership will ignore you.
If a badge dominates your decision then you will make poor choices in your life.
Of the two I'd have the EV6 simply because it's not an Audi but I'm not a fan of these rather large cars.
BMW X1 electric will arrive soon. I guess it will be a nice competitor for those two
Why is the camera behind the presenter when showing the interior of the cars - example when showing us the Audi? We can't see the interior when it's being filmed from the outside on the driver's side and you're sitting inside. Or the drive selector when your hand is in the way. Or the shiny plastic on the dash. Or... Every 'Electrifying' video I've watched it's the same thing.
Audis ,Vorsprung durch Technik‘ is melting down below zero compared to the 800 Volt E-GMP platform. Here only Porsche Taycan or a Audi GT e-tron (also from Porsche) got a little Mate Rimac aka Bugatti-Rimac. Here also the Hyundai Group is on board and one of the best with 30 years as head of BMW M Sports Albert Biermann was responsible for fine tuning and roadability. The EV6 therefore also has a better ride than an EQE with air suspension thanks to a unique mechanical damper system up to now only found on Mercedes AMG and Maserati. All this shows the serious ambition of the Korean automaker to become a serious and not only half hearted and double tongued EV manufacturer. Kia is however the new Audi at a price that is with all packs included still more than 30% cheaper, you get more attention and definitely more value for money. We drive an AWD on Swiss roads with highways limited to 120 km/h with between 14.8 and 16.8 kWh and the trick is a soft acceleration pedal as well as foresight. Since May 2022 we average over 4000 km with 15,7 kWh and the car is 2200 kg and less than comparable Audi. The recuperation is near perfect and adds really. The car is very roomy and elegant, a modern GT and not another boring SUV of anybody. And after German P3/ADAC it’s the first brand to get an index over 1 (1,03) for long distance traveling. Next best after the winner in all classes is the EQS with 0,92 and Polestar 2 as well as 😜 Porsche Taycan both 0,90. This is definitely a new generation of car that can seriously compete with the leader TESLA. Legacy has no chance with actual structures and Hyundai Group was among the first to take the warning seriously, not so the Germans still fixed on ICE for purely Autobahn conditions found nowhere globally. There is nothing anymore to say and best YOU objectively check out yourself, even friends at the golf club will not find that you are at the wrong place. It fits well besides Teslas!😎😜
I'm going for the ev6
We’ve had 6 Audis over 20 yrs - we test drove the Q4 Sport and sat in the S-line - just hated the interior - just a big slab of plastic and the piano black was horrendous for reflections. EV6 on order ( yes it has been 8 months #notcountin gokyesiamcounting)