No one has the right to abuse another in any way shape or form. The church needs to administer consequences and that does not mean hiding individuals at another place where the abusers can continue abusing. This is so sickening!
@@ginatheballerina5602 This is about abuse withim the Roman Catholic Church. According to your comments, the RCC is abusing millions of prisoners. That is hyperbole at its worst. If you are not referring to the RCC's abuse of millions of prisoners, your comment is off-topic.
Thank you for being so brave a speaking out about this terrible abuse. The common misconception is that women don't abuse. And because of this erroneous belief they get away with it. They are still getting away with it. People need to speak out against ANYONE who is abusive. There's strength in numbers. The more people come forward the more we'll be believed.
We can speak out the truth but the truth is that in real life superiors can break law and do terrifing things and not held responsible on anythong they do.I am sorry to tell you that if you see and observe, there is no law that protects us, there is only power sometimes of these stupid, abusive and ....but powerful people, power that maybe who knows what they have done to have it....I am.really sorry for these nuns, but everywhere is something happening...Just remember, you are not alone.and you can fight it, not even have to go through something bad if you just see the red flegs just go and start creating your life however you can.
God don't exist its an ancient con to control people, made up by mankind, its caused more death and MISERY than anything else man invented, Have the courage to realise and see its man made GARBAGE..
@@williamredfern5504 if people wanna believe in God they have every right to believe just as you have every right to not believe in God. Sanctimonious New Atheism is no better than Evangelical Christianity, the problem is people trying to impose on the will of others instead of letting each us live according to our own law.
You do not need to forgive her. I find it ridiculous that people say you need to forgive your abuser to move on. I guess accepting that this horrible person took advantage of you and that it was not your fault. Some people are just bad people and it is not the victims fault!
@@HappyLife-wv5ms so what you are saying is ignore God’s command to forgive one another. Forgiveness is not for the abuser. It is for the abused. The abuser doesn’t have to know that they are forgiven but God knows. ( forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. ) Forgive us as we forgive. If we don’t forgive He won’t forgive us. There’s no one that can say that they have nothing to be forgiven for.
@@biddibee3526 let God forgive them. The burden of forgiving should not lay upon the abused. I do not believe this helps them. Do they need to accept it was not their fault and try to move on? ABSOLUTELY.
They want to but can't. There is a problem with the statute of limitations for the crimes, as well as many bishops and priests being dead. Also, the DA for the state of Connecticut has been trying, but it is rough, as documents about the abuse are missing. So, no one is paying for any of the crimes. If you liked this story, each TH-cam for "Strange Pathways" as they have interviews with myself and many of the survivors.I assure you, it is intense and raw.
Those who are considering joining religious life, please do NOT be afraid to ask the hard questions about what the life will be like and what checks and balances are in place, how keeping in touch with friends and family works, and most importantly, you should be able to have a spiritual director and confessor from OUTSIDE the community. If they are not transparent, or refuse to answer questions, that is a red flag.
I am 72 and was in nursing school in a dorm with one other who I became good friends with.We were both 21 and she has got out of the convent.She said the older nuns were very abusive.She had intense therapy.She stayed with the religion but wanted nothing to do with any nuns.Many yrs later a friend not of this religion loved going on retreats that other nuns ran.They wanted nothing to do with the church or priests.This was the start of knowing many issues with this religion.
Abusive people are everywhere. They do not have the right mind. The best thing is to leave the people in all cost. Pray that God have mercy and help you to f ou forgive them. Life id precious. Do not let those abusive people use you because they can. May God have mercy on us all.
@@meipong2878 beautifully put, thank you so much for sharing. I always say God is good, God is great and God is never late. Trusting him to help us forgive. Praying for the abusers to get the help they need. Have a wonderful day!
I went on a retreat with sister kovacs when I was 13. I always thought there was something strange or off about the way they did things, like how we weren’t allowed to talk late at night until morning prayers. I didn’t witness any abuse, but there were things that happened that upset me. I google SMMI every few years because I wanted to get back in touch with them, but now I see why I never found an address. I stopped being catholic years ago, but still, this story hit me extremely hard, as I always measured my worth to people like them who COULD be good Catholics and pledge their life to god in a way I couldn’t because of being queer. Thanks for the reporting, these women have likely been silenced for too long, and it snapped me out of the shitty way I measured my self-worth. It all seems like a lifetime ago, but I guess that’s a good thing.
Not talking at night until morning prayers is called grand silence. Most religious orders do that practice. It’s a way to meditate on scripture and converse with God. It’s not abusive at all. Many religious orders have periods of silence and recollection.
I knew from the bottom of my heart I am Catholic as well and I knew that nuns were basically kept in captivity like prisoners like a cult I feel so bad for them they go into this thinking that they’re doing so good but really the people that I want them and I will say oh in them because they did just tortured them and it’s so sad that they left their families and their friends and their loved ones and their life to devote their life to God when in reality there was no goodness and there there was no purity in there there was not anything Catholic going on in that church or convent and I am so furious and disgusted to say that I’m a Catholic when people do this
Also, it has happened all over the world. Apparently the Catholic Church is universal in its abuse also. What galls me is not so much that abuse was done by individuals, though that was horrible, but that the higher ups have covered it up and moved abusers around with full knowledge of this happening.
@@JesusChristIsKingIsGod Go watch the documentary called Vatican Girl if you don't believe the Catholic church is compromised. Or you can watch The Keepers, about a nun that was murdered because she was about to expose a pedo priest and the church stopped the investigation.
Will always be the same!! Wolves in sheep's clothing... Just be aware??? When you have to really question a member of your religion,who prays amongst you? I went to Catholic school till the age of 15! To say the 1st time attending a non religious school?? I was like a rabbit in headlights!! As speaking for myself, I was shocked beyond,that people of my age had a voice, opionin, allowed to be you, yourself, could even voice your voice! I must admit everyone thought me a prood?? But accepted me, myself. Jesus Christ to me, is nothing to do with what is right and wrong??? My Jesus on a hillside, talking his talk? Is what lives today.he never laid out a book of rule's??? Personally I need no rules, I believe, and follow my own beliefs.
My heart goes out to all of you. It's not God's fault it's the people that are put in formation. They themselves are damaged too,however, its no excuse. I was in a religious order for 17 years and saw and experienced all you say! All I can say is God forgive them and God bless you all! I finally got the courage and walked away. I'm now happily in another community for some 14 years now and every single day I thank Almighty God for giving me the courage to get out of the abuse that was daily for me.
@philippbosnjak4183 Both sides of my grandparents came from Europe like millions did at the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th century. I was born in the United States. I'd rather not mention my former community, but it was an international one. Ironically, there hasn't been one vocation since I departed some 15 years ago except a few postulates who never stayed.
@@josephhorvath1418 Thank you for answering! I got a little bit into spiritual abuse out of interest. Over the pond we too have some cases and I find it to be interesting how such things can happen. All communities where spiritual abuse happened are mostly new ones. All of them were founded in the last century. It surprises me that though a lot of people discern joining those communities.
I feel sorry for any Nun who was treated badly, or worse, abused. On the other hand, i have met too many nuns who were abusive, mean-spirited, and vindictive.
Wrong. Sexual abuse in the church only started in the last century, because we are approaching the end times. This prophecy has been known for ages that right before the final battle between evil and good, Satan will infiltrate the church and will destroy it almost completely from within. This is why there is a growing number of evil clergymen in the church nowadays, and it will continue until the day of Jesus's return.
@@davegnarlsson4344 I guess you're the type who calls your parents abusive, because they didn't buy you the latest iPhone. There's a very clear difference between discipline and abuse, you should go watch Jordan Peterson talk about how important discipline is for children.
@@davegnarlsson4344 Well yeah, I have issues. I was abused, so what? Are you going to tell me that someone like you, who never experienced sexual abuse knows more about this topic than me? fff-off!! As you said - this discussion is over.
Plus, I would like to know the names of all the abusive orders, as well as those which are living up their responsibilities as being spiritual refuges for their members.
It’s not the organization itself it’s People. Abusers are good at working systems and getting ahead in organizations so even if we knew the name of every organization where abuse was happening and ended it…. There would still be abusers working systems and rising to position of authority. I don’t know what it is but I feel like we’ve lost touch with our instincts and the ability to discern wolves in sheep’s clothing. They are good at signalling they are something other than what they are but after they get discovered often times people will say they had a sense of it at some point…
A wolf in sheep's skin. Remember, just because there's good, it doesn't mean there's no evil. We must always be weary of others, even those who are closest to you. Be careful everyone, please 🙏
The terms here need to be made correct. Wherever a crime has been committed, these nun-abusers need to be arrested, jailed, charged and convicted in a criminal court for the crimes they have committed against the sisters they supervised. The sisters they physically and verbally abused must be willing to press charges against the offenders and the Catholic Church should also be charged in both civil and criminal court with both crimes and civil offenses, including offenses related to physical, sexual, and psychological offenses under labor laws. I would ask that Arianna Huffington/Huffington use her considerable power, influence, and connections to find a lawyer or legal team to take the legal action needed to bring charges against perpetrators and get commensurate compensation against the Catholic Church on behalf of these victims and those of any order or convent that has engaged in abuses against these and other sisters.
The sisters were cruel to young pregnant girls who were unlucky enough to be sent into their so called mother and baby homes. Maybe its a form of karma
How can I get in contact with these sisters? I was a nun also and I can relate 100% with these nuns. I feel ruined for the rest of my life. All the stress ruined my health. I could use some mental support as I try to create a new life.
YES,I, TOO, WAS ABUSED BY BOTH THE NUNS ONE WAS NAMED SISTER MARY KINGA. AND THE SECOND WAS FR. LOUIS WOZNIAK.YES, IT WAS STEVE WOZNIAK"S UNCLE(THE ONE FROM THE COMPUTER COMPANY AS STEVE DID HAVE AN UNCLE WHO WAS A CATHOLIC PRIEST STATIONED IN INDIANA.THE NUN "HATED" MY MOTHER BECAUSE SHE HAD A "BASTARD" BABY AND THE NUNS "HATED" THAT.BUT YET SOME NUNS SLEPT WITH THE PRIESTS. EXPLAIN THAT EXCUSE. THE NUN WAS THE PRINCIPAL OF THE GRADE SCHOOL. AND SHE WOULD EMBARRASS MY MOTHER IN EVERY WAY SHE COULD IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE PARISH WHEN I WAS TEN YEARS OLD. OTHER WOMAN HAD "BASTARD" BABIES. BUT THEY BRIBED THE NUNS AND IT WAS OKAY. MY PARENTS WORKED HARD AS HELL AND MY FAMILY WAS ALWAYS ON THE LINE ABOUT SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY WERE FORGEINERS. THANK YOU,AMERICA,FOR YOUR KINDNESS WITH MY FAMILY. CAN I STILL RECEIVE ANY KIND OF HELP PLEASE LET ME KNOW. 6182029576
We are able to put feedback in during this presentation of women abusing women, why were we N O T given the same offer of feedback when the presentation was made about priests abusing women. It is that reason that leads me to believe that this felony will NOT be dealt with appropriately by the church. It is no longer a spiritual crime, this is a civil FELONY and needs to be dealt with in civil court for both these abusers and to truly help the abused. Priests and nuns during my entire time as a Catholic have shown themselves to be violent, physically and verbally abusive and sexually deviant. There were many alcoholics and short tempered priest and nuns who did not tolerate children or elderly. They did not like being confronted by parents or family members. People who gave more money to the church were given an entirely different attitude. The church failed to protect the abused women and children from violent, drunk men and used that behavior to preach a sermon to everyone, instead of addressing the men. Confession, to me became a big joke that is still that to this day. Forgiveness is fine but part of that forgiveness was linked to NOT continuing the bad behavior. That was not something priests or nuns were trained to do. They were as human as the rest of the world and could have done so much better than they have done but the church failed them as badly as it has failed the rest of us. The only nuns I ever try to Remember are the ones who treated me like I truly mattered to them and God. They were few and far between in my long period of practicing my Catholic faith. I no longer call myself a catholic and my late mother-in-law did not think Catholics were even Christians. Organized religion has become more evil and complacent than religious. It has to clean up its’ own act before preaching the Bible to anyone else. To those of you who are truly servants in your religious lives and truly practice what you preach, I do not included you in this negative tirade. May God continue his commitment to us and vice versa.
I am not a nun at all. I am A 71 year old mother of two sons and grandmother of three girls and a boy. They are all over 21 years except one girl who is a preteen this year. I consider myself a human being and nothing more. Hope we all meet in heaven someday, then we never need to argue about religion ever again. If you did not go to a Catholic school or be under the care of nuns and priests, you are as ignorant as you sound. Good luck in trying to believe you have answers to anything. Also some nuns were raped and molested by male religious. I have several cousins who were nuns and several who are and three who have passed away. We also had a priest in our family and two alcoholic ones leading our parish who were best friends with my alcoholic father. In our parish, the more money you donated the less you were lectured or counseled by the priest about your violence, sexual perversions, deadly vices etc.
You can actually see a lot of the pictures before they enter the convent that they had a little bit of weight on them and then after they were done they were really skinny like they were starving Them in there
They came from in defferent, family they defferent blood defferent attitude, and sometimes, there's a bully among them, liar, no how to make story to ruin other sister to the eyes of other especially to the superior. and sad to say sometimes theirs tbird inter the convent.
What a shock abuse was a reason for them to leave the Catholic Church. How could this have happen? I mean seriously Catholic Church actually perpetrating sexual acts on innocent people and children.?! it just can’t be true
I was treated like trash by office staff at my local Catholic Church. I was called a prostitute, a was accused of being a witch and an occultist, I was excluded by the priest who I found out later that this woman who worked there her name is Jill O Sutherland is the priests girlfriend and lover. I was accused of things that are to horrific to talk about and this church suppose to be of Christ. It rocked my world and changed me forever. I was a loving person once full of life and happy. Now I am an Atheist. This religion is satanic and anyone who is a Catholic is not my friend. It destroyed my life. Shame on this sick and twisted cult called the Catholic Church.
Thats is not true catholicism. Losing your Faith was not the solution. Did he just start insulting you out of nothing? What was this about? If you dont mind sharing that is. Ive been accross some cranky priests but never abusive or rude. I know unfortunately that there are some. Same with nuns. Ive 3 months in a cloister monastery and well the nuns were not very spiritual except for a very elderly sweet nun who did the laundry. But well at least there was not abuse going on. They did get quite petty and gossiped on each other but no abuse
@@etcwhateverYou think being petty and gossiping is not sin? Especially when they embody Christ? That’s a big red flag. They can be abusive with those traits
Don’t know how I got here but I do study the Bible and Jesus warned of false religiousness and religion. Those acts of abuse are not imperfectness but evil deeds of the devil! Matthew 7:22 -23; 22Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’
Each of you should have done extensive research before entering the convent. There are countless autbiographies published by current and former nuns. You should never move blindly to any place. All of those games about food and lack of social contact is commonplace. Further, you should've had an outside benefactor with money who could support you inside and outside of the convent. As far as the physical abuse, you should know that was unacceptable.After the first physical assault, you should have made haste to notify someone in authority, or you should have left. I am a peacemaker; however, I would not have tolerated that disturbed nun who physically assaulted you, if I were in you shoes.
It's easier said than done. Decades ago, there was no internet so the ways in which you could research those convents were very limited. Even now, some orders make sure that they have no websites and thet very little about them appears on the internet. Those who have web pages also ensure that only positive or neutral info gets out. Obiously, still some information might leak online, with some luck. In this way one of my relatives avoided joining a lax abbey. As for ex-novices in this documentary, they were trauma-bonded so they didn't leave their communities as they perhaps sould. The same mechanism as with wives of abusive men.
I was in Italy I could not escape they locked me up took my passport I did call home but I could not get out of the country to return home police are not like that in america
People who join celibate religious orders already have major issues with personality defects, childhood abuse, and not a healthy concept of self. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that these tragedies happen. The normal healthy model is men and women in monogamous marriages with children. Only a small fraction of people deviate from the norm. Always be wary- living in a convent doesn’t mean you’ve spent anytime working on yourself, personal growth, self development. Those are what the goal of life should be, not hiding out in a religious order.
They would like to see justice. Interesting but that sister's side is missing. Church is serious. Babylon keeps babbling on, you can be certain of it. It is not cultist since anybody knows that the requisites are strict. The sister is just proving to them that Jesus is perfect, not her. Where else can she make attestment of this? These ladies are not my favorites. Listen, for no discipline, go see much of the world & the non-stop talking government with no finesse. These ladies are not ready for Jesus. They don't want to fix themselves. Who am I to say this? Check my profile!
Those testimonies are really important. Thanks a lot for this video. Nevertheless, coffee and sugar can be reduced and take with more caution as they are having an impact. One of the speakers told how whitdrawal was used as a manipulation tool. In another context, it might be helpful to reduce their consommation as they are responsible of moodswing and more. I personnaly prefer not to have coffee as its laxative effect impairs my transit.
Because it was run like a cult and not an actual religious order, the situation was extremely odd. Most taught and others worked in medical places. But it was so insane that the gigs never lasted very long.
do not blame anyone that's why you are granted a chance of formation and novitiate. it is a way of life full of hardships and temptations. yours is to lead +Obedience. to follow Christ is to go though what he went through. seek help from your spiritual directors and other religious orders and community may the Lord send you consolation from above
I am curious. I see a lot of people posting things like they are praying to god for the victims, etc. Isn't that the same god who allowed the abuse in the first place? Thanks.
@@biddibee3526 I'd say they "admire" Mary. I say "They" because I researched it for 18 dull, boring, confusing, and dishonest years before I left. Even if they were praying to Mary, I have to wonder if it would be the Same Mary who allowed the abuse in the first place.
What would you expect from "holy?" MOTHER church; the MOTHER of harlots and abominations of the earth that is described so clearly in chapters 17 & 18 in the last book of the bible - Revelation. Read and STUDY it for yourself.
I know some folks don't want to hear it but , it's real like the sun and moon on the sky! Catholicism and christianity are not the same. Vatican is a organization structured totally against the Biblical teaching! simple examples! celibacy oath! totally against the gospel. The Pope? Jesus said do not be called father, you only have on father in heaven. And Your holiness? How a person who can read missed chapters in the Bible which comparers human holienes to............?
St. Paul calls himself a Spiritual father in the Bible. Jesus is not speaking literally, or else we shouldn't be allowed to call our human fathers father either. Or to call anyone teacher.
Our Lord Jesus is very Holy and Righteous. He even told to love our enemies and not to commit adultery. Read the Gospels and you will see that. Do not blame God for what people do! My faith teaches love and honesty.
What has St Therese of Lesieux to do with this? Because she put up with abuse others should? And since when is physical, sexual, or emotional abuse appropriate? Have you ever lived in a women's monastery? If you haven't you can't possibly understand what these women have gone through? I have. Eventually I was tonsured, (Eastern Orthodox) but I live alone. I came from a background abuse. I didn't need any more. I even had a superior threaten to beat me. I said "The first time you hit me will be the last". How is threatening to beat someone helpful spiritually? I left and never returned.These women have been traumatized--years later, you can still hear how it has affected them. If you haven't experienced it, you cannot possibly understand.
I'm so glad this is coming out these monsters need to be addressed
No one has the right to abuse another in any way shape or form. The church needs to administer consequences and that does not mean hiding individuals at another place where the abusers can continue abusing. This is so sickening!
They do it to millions & millions in prison & outside of prison. All you really do is talk, talk. Stand up for inmates!
@@ginatheballerina5602 This is about abuse withim the Roman Catholic Church. According to your comments, the RCC is abusing millions of prisoners. That is hyperbole at its worst. If you are not referring to the RCC's abuse of millions of prisoners, your comment is off-topic.
Thank you for being so brave a speaking out about this terrible abuse. The common misconception is that women don't abuse. And because of this erroneous belief they get away with it. They are still getting away with it. People need to speak out against ANYONE who is abusive. There's strength in numbers. The more people come forward the more we'll be believed.
This is not right, religious life should be a joyous experience. That superior needs to let go and indicted on formal charges of abuse.
We can speak out the truth but the truth is that in real life superiors can break law and do terrifing things and not held responsible on anythong they do.I am sorry to tell you that if you see and observe, there is no law that protects us, there is only power sometimes of these stupid, abusive and ....but powerful people, power that maybe who knows what they have done to have it....I am.really sorry for these nuns, but everywhere is something happening...Just remember, you are not alone.and you can fight it, not even have to go through something bad if you just see the red flegs just go and start creating your life however you can.
It's not a democracy.
@@sandraatkins2539 Cults are not a democracy.
God don't exist its an ancient con to control people, made up by mankind, its caused more death and MISERY than anything else man invented,
Have the courage to realise and see its man made GARBAGE..
@@williamredfern5504 if people wanna believe in God they have every right to believe just as you have every right to not believe in God. Sanctimonious New Atheism is no better than Evangelical Christianity, the problem is people trying to impose on the will of others instead of letting each us live according to our own law.
Evils are everywhere, in any institutions, so beware and watch your children to protect them! Christ will not let those evil doers be unpunished!
I was abused by a Nun in 5th Grade at Catholic School. Still trying to forgive this Nun - Sister Agnes Therese.
You do not need to forgive her. I find it ridiculous that people say you need to forgive your abuser to move on. I guess accepting that this horrible person took advantage of you and that it was not your fault. Some people are just bad people and it is not the victims fault!
May God help 🙏
@@HappyLife-wv5ms so what you are saying is ignore God’s command to forgive one another. Forgiveness is not for the abuser. It is for the abused. The abuser doesn’t have to know that they are forgiven but God knows. ( forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. ) Forgive us as we forgive. If we don’t forgive He won’t forgive us. There’s no one that can say that they have nothing to be forgiven for.
@@biddibee3526 let God forgive them. The burden of forgiving should not lay upon the abused. I do not believe this helps them. Do they need to accept it was not their fault and try to move on? ABSOLUTELY.
Sorry to hear that
What the hell is going on there?!!!!
So glad you left!!
The four former members should bring a civil lawsuit.
They want to but can't. There is a problem with the statute of limitations for the crimes, as well as many bishops and priests being dead. Also, the DA for the state of Connecticut has been trying, but it is rough, as documents about the abuse are missing. So, no one is paying for any of the crimes. If you liked this story, each TH-cam for "Strange Pathways" as they have interviews with myself and many of the survivors.I assure you, it is intense and raw.
These things shouldn't be happening. And the church has to take responsibility for this .
What evil. I know that God would be so very upset by this.
Don’t think god would be surprised that the all fallible humans gifted with free will frequently make the worst choices.
They would like to see justice and of course they deserve it!
Those who are considering joining religious life, please do NOT be afraid to ask the hard questions about what the life will be like and what checks and balances are in place, how keeping in touch with friends and family works, and most importantly, you should be able to have a spiritual director and confessor from OUTSIDE the community. If they are not transparent, or refuse to answer questions, that is a red flag.
I am 72 and was in nursing school in a dorm with one other who I became good friends with.We were both 21 and she has got out of the convent.She said the older nuns were very abusive.She had intense therapy.She stayed with the religion but wanted nothing to do with any nuns.Many yrs later a friend not of this religion loved going on retreats that other nuns ran.They wanted nothing to do with the church or priests.This was the start of knowing many issues with this religion.
Don’t blame the religion , the faith teaches to love even our enemies and not to commit adultery.
Those abuse Superior nuns should be in Jail ..what are their names?
when you become a nun your name changes.That's as weird and disturbing.
Wow thank you for sharing. I am so grateful these women we’re brave enough to escape the terrible abuse.
Abusive people are everywhere. They do not have the right mind. The best thing is to leave the people in all cost. Pray that God have mercy and help you to f ou forgive them.
Life id precious. Do not let those abusive people use you because they can.
May God have mercy on us all.
@@meipong2878 beautifully put, thank you so much for sharing. I always say God is good, God is great and God is never late. Trusting him to help us forgive. Praying for the abusers to get the help they need. Have a wonderful day!
Good that they left and still spoke out about the injustice
Can’t wait for them to see their reaction when these abusive sisters pass after their deaths and face their life review
I went on a retreat with sister kovacs when I was 13. I always thought there was something strange or off about the way they did things, like how we weren’t allowed to talk late at night until morning prayers. I didn’t witness any abuse, but there were things that happened that upset me.
I google SMMI every few years because I wanted to get back in touch with them, but now I see why I never found an address. I stopped being catholic years ago, but still, this story hit me extremely hard, as I always measured my worth to people like them who COULD be good Catholics and pledge their life to god in a way I couldn’t because of being queer. Thanks for the reporting, these women have likely been silenced for too long, and it snapped me out of the shitty way I measured my self-worth.
It all seems like a lifetime ago, but I guess that’s a good thing.
As long as you're a good person, that's all that matters. You don't need a religion for that.
It's because God does'nt live in these 'religious people's" lives.
Not talking at night until morning prayers is called grand silence. Most religious orders do that practice. It’s a way to meditate on scripture and converse with God. It’s not abusive at all. Many religious orders have periods of silence and recollection.
These videos are not having too many views although it's been a long time since they were posted. It seems everything is pretty controlled.
I found that very weird!!
the catholic church is rich they have enough money to flush videos like these to the bottom of the algorithm
I knew from the bottom of my heart I am Catholic as well and I knew that nuns were basically kept in captivity like prisoners like a cult I feel so bad for them they go into this thinking that they’re doing so good but really the people that I want them and I will say oh in them because they did just tortured them and it’s so sad that they left their families and their friends and their loved ones and their life to devote their life to God when in reality there was no goodness and there there was no purity in there there was not anything Catholic going on in that church or convent and I am so furious and disgusted to say that I’m a Catholic when people do this
You know a tree by its fruits.
Many are suffering still....
People think that in today’s world god is “dead” because he’s not represented in schools
Anymore or the devil is about but really it’s THIS!
What's really is scary is for how many centuries the Catholic Church has been doing this!
Not the church. Some people in the church. Wherever there are people, there are bad people and good.
The nuns who are abusive are bad not the Catholic Church.
Also, it has happened all over the world. Apparently the Catholic Church is universal in its abuse also. What galls me is not so much that abuse was done by individuals, though that was horrible, but that the higher ups have covered it up
and moved abusers around with full knowledge of this happening.
@@JesusChristIsKingIsGod Go watch the documentary called Vatican Girl if you don't believe the Catholic church is compromised. Or you can watch The Keepers, about a nun that was murdered because she was about to expose a pedo priest and the church stopped the investigation.
They should file 🗃️🗄️ a Lawsuit !!!!
Like all those people the Roman Catholic Priests Abused !!!!!!¡
All those Altar Boy's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's been happening for centuries,in all of the closeted orders.
True.John Pell was exposed and loads are still doing it discreetly.God will punish them
The nuns I had in elementary school were sadistic monsters
Not me. Pas Moi.
A wolf in sheep's clothing... Wow
Will always be the same!! Wolves in sheep's clothing... Just be aware??? When you have to really question a member of your religion,who prays amongst you? I went to Catholic school till the age of 15! To say the 1st time attending a non religious school?? I was like a rabbit in headlights!! As speaking for myself, I was shocked beyond,that people of my age had a voice, opionin, allowed to be you, yourself, could even voice your voice! I must admit everyone thought me a prood?? But accepted me, myself. Jesus Christ to me, is nothing to do with what is right and wrong??? My Jesus on a hillside, talking his talk? Is what lives today.he never laid out a book of rule's??? Personally I need no rules, I believe, and follow my own beliefs.
Evil
My heart goes out to all of you. It's not God's fault it's the people that are put in formation. They themselves are damaged too,however, its no excuse. I was in a religious order for 17 years and saw and experienced all you say! All I can say is God forgive them and God bless you all! I finally got the courage and walked away. I'm now happily in another community for some 14 years now and every single day I thank Almighty God for giving me the courage to get out of the abuse that was daily for me.
May I ask which community you left? Also are you European your name sound so?
@philippbosnjak4183 Both sides of my grandparents came from Europe like millions did at the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th century. I was born in the United States. I'd rather not mention my former community, but it was an international one. Ironically, there hasn't been one vocation since I departed some 15 years ago except a few postulates who never stayed.
@@josephhorvath1418 Thank you for answering!
I got a little bit into spiritual abuse out of interest. Over the pond we too have some cases and I find it to be interesting how such things can happen. All communities where spiritual abuse happened are mostly new ones. All of them were founded in the last century. It surprises me that though a lot of people discern joining those communities.
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I feel sorry for any Nun who was treated badly, or worse, abused. On the other hand, i have met too many nuns who were abusive, mean-spirited, and vindictive.
Nuns have been abusing children for ages. My sympathy is nil.
Wrong.
Sexual abuse in the church only started in the last century, because we are approaching the end times. This prophecy has been known for ages that right before the final battle between evil and good, Satan will infiltrate the church and will destroy it almost completely from within. This is why there is a growing number of evil clergymen in the church nowadays, and it will continue until the day of Jesus's return.
@@lalaylastraill602 Abuse isn't limited to sex. And I'm not wrong.
@@davegnarlsson4344 I guess you're the type who calls your parents abusive, because they didn't buy you the latest iPhone. There's a very clear difference between discipline and abuse, you should go watch Jordan Peterson talk about how important discipline is for children.
@@lalaylastraill602 You have issues. This discussion, not that it ever was a discussion, is over.
@@davegnarlsson4344 Well yeah, I have issues. I was abused, so what? Are you going to tell me that someone like you, who never experienced sexual abuse knows more about this topic than me? fff-off!! As you said - this discussion is over.
I was abused by a nun in 1st grade 1960.
Plus, I would like to know the names of all the abusive orders, as well as those which are living up their responsibilities as being spiritual refuges for their members.
It’s not the organization itself it’s People. Abusers are good at working systems and getting ahead in organizations so even if we knew the name of every organization where abuse was happening and ended it…. There would still be abusers working systems and rising to position of authority. I don’t know what it is but I feel like we’ve lost touch with our instincts and the ability to discern wolves in sheep’s clothing. They are good at signalling they are something other than what they are but after they get discovered often times people will say they had a sense of it at some point…
I think in every country someone should go to convent to convent. It's horrible to be in a convent.
There's a special place in hell for wolves in sheep clothing.
A wolf in sheep's skin. Remember, just because there's good, it doesn't mean there's no evil. We must always be weary of others, even those who are closest to you. Be careful everyone, please 🙏
3:43 Should say, a wolf in nun's habit.
The terms here need to be made correct. Wherever a crime has been committed, these nun-abusers need to be arrested, jailed, charged and convicted in a criminal court for the crimes they have committed against the sisters they supervised. The sisters they physically and verbally abused must be willing to press charges against the offenders and the Catholic Church should also be charged in both civil and criminal court with both crimes and civil offenses, including offenses related to physical, sexual, and psychological offenses under labor laws. I would ask that Arianna Huffington/Huffington use her considerable power, influence, and connections to find a lawyer or legal team to take the legal action needed to bring charges against perpetrators and get commensurate compensation against the Catholic Church on behalf of these victims and those of any order or convent that has engaged in abuses against these and other sisters.
Gross gross gross
So what does a nun 's role consist of nowadays ?
They are not taking care of orphanages anymore
...didnt think it was still a thing
This doesn't sound much different than the women who are being trafficked. So glad that you found a way out and that you have shared your stories.
Teach perfection by an example of perfection? The qualified are difficult to find? Till that my own heart is right with thee, I have nothing.
The sisters were cruel to young pregnant girls who were unlucky enough to be sent into their so called mother and baby homes. Maybe its a form of karma
How can I get in contact with these sisters? I was a nun also and I can relate 100% with these nuns. I feel ruined for the rest of my life. All the stress ruined my health. I could use some mental support as I try to create a new life.
Can you tell me the experience, I have desire to be a nun but I feel scared and confused.
Karen Armstrong was abused by Mother Walter, the Novice Mistress
Look no further then the Madeline laundries of Ireland
YES,I, TOO, WAS ABUSED BY BOTH THE NUNS ONE WAS NAMED SISTER MARY KINGA. AND THE SECOND WAS FR. LOUIS WOZNIAK.YES,
IT WAS STEVE WOZNIAK"S UNCLE(THE ONE FROM THE COMPUTER COMPANY AS STEVE DID HAVE AN UNCLE WHO WAS A CATHOLIC PRIEST STATIONED IN INDIANA.THE NUN "HATED" MY MOTHER BECAUSE SHE HAD A "BASTARD" BABY AND THE NUNS "HATED" THAT.BUT YET SOME NUNS SLEPT WITH THE PRIESTS. EXPLAIN THAT EXCUSE. THE NUN WAS THE PRINCIPAL OF THE GRADE SCHOOL. AND SHE WOULD EMBARRASS MY MOTHER IN EVERY WAY SHE COULD IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE PARISH WHEN I WAS TEN YEARS OLD.
OTHER WOMAN HAD "BASTARD" BABIES. BUT THEY BRIBED THE NUNS AND IT WAS OKAY. MY PARENTS WORKED HARD AS HELL AND
MY FAMILY WAS ALWAYS ON THE LINE ABOUT SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY WERE FORGEINERS. THANK YOU,AMERICA,FOR YOUR KINDNESS WITH MY FAMILY. CAN I STILL RECEIVE ANY KIND OF HELP PLEASE LET ME KNOW. 6182029576
Don’t use capital letters.
Why I have rejected religion. More evil than good.
No, PEOPLE are more evil than good.
@@bobchop433 and people create organized religions
Reject people, in that case. They choose to do evil rather than good.
And I have not met a nice Bright yet.
Religion is extremely evil, God isn’t.
Those who use religion to perpetuate their agendas... have a special paradise in store for them.
Mother Walter accidentally on purpose deliberately poked her in the eye with the edge of her wimple
Revenge is mine says the Lord.
I think it's unfair to use the word, alleged. I don't think we need a judge to determine is someone is telling the truth or not.
I'm so heartbroken for these women 🌹 it is Soul Murder.
We are able to put feedback in during this presentation of women abusing women, why were we N O T given the same offer of feedback when the presentation was made about priests abusing women. It is that reason that leads me to believe that this felony will NOT be dealt with appropriately by the church. It is no longer a spiritual crime, this is a civil FELONY and needs to be dealt with in civil court for both these abusers and to truly help the abused. Priests and nuns during my entire time as a Catholic have shown themselves to be violent, physically and verbally abusive and sexually deviant. There were many alcoholics and short tempered priest and nuns who did not tolerate children or elderly. They did not like being confronted by parents or family members. People who gave more money to the church were given an entirely different attitude. The church failed to protect the abused women and children from violent, drunk men and used that behavior to preach a sermon to everyone, instead of addressing the men. Confession, to me became a big joke that is still that to this day. Forgiveness is fine but part of that forgiveness was linked to NOT continuing the bad behavior. That was not something priests or nuns were trained to do. They were as human as the rest of the world and could have done so much better than they have done but the church failed them as badly as it has failed the rest of us. The only nuns I ever try to Remember are the ones who treated me like I truly mattered to them and God. They were few and far between in my long period of practicing my Catholic faith. I no longer call myself a catholic and my late mother-in-law did not think Catholics were even Christians. Organized religion has become more evil and complacent than religious. It has to clean up its’ own act before preaching the Bible to anyone else. To those of you who are truly servants in your religious lives and truly practice what you preach, I do not included you in this negative tirade. May God continue his commitment to us and vice versa.
Your mother-in-law is wrong. That kind of thinking is shallow. Study the doctrines before you talk.
Ling Su. Are you an abusive nun? You need to wake up and stop responding to any charges of abuse unless you are kind and helpful.
Your mother in law was right. The only way into the kingdom of God is to be born again. Not by being a Catholic. The Chinese woman hasn't got a clue.
I am not a nun at all. I am A 71 year old mother of two sons and grandmother of three girls and a boy. They are all over 21 years except one girl who is a preteen this year. I consider myself a human being and nothing more. Hope we all meet in heaven someday, then we never need to argue about religion ever again. If you did not go to a Catholic school or be under the care of nuns and priests, you are as ignorant as you sound. Good luck in trying to believe you have answers to anything. Also some nuns were raped and molested by male religious. I have several cousins who were nuns and several who are and three who have passed away. We also had a priest in our family and two alcoholic ones leading our parish who were best friends with my alcoholic father. In our parish, the more money you donated the less you were lectured or counseled by the priest about your violence, sexual perversions, deadly vices etc.
You can actually see a lot of the pictures before they enter the convent that they had a little bit of weight on them and then after they were done they were really skinny like they were starving Them in there
..Now I see why God did not let me in any convent.. May God forgive, enlighten the abusers and convert them.
Oooooh 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Almighty God please have mercy upon us we have sinned and not lived according to your precepts 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
They came from in defferent, family they defferent blood defferent attitude, and sometimes, there's a bully among them, liar, no how to make story to ruin other sister to the eyes of other especially to the superior. and sad to say sometimes theirs tbird inter the convent.
I CAN'T BELIEVE AT THE AGE OF FOUR I WANTED TO BE A CARMELITE NUN. ❤
SSMI no longer exists
Mary magdalane and the mary immaculate are the two orders you should always avoid
Why they don't credit the filmmakers? Who filmed it?
What a shock abuse was a reason for them to leave the Catholic Church. How could this have happen? I mean seriously Catholic Church actually perpetrating sexual acts on innocent people and children.?! it just can’t be true
I was treated like trash by office staff at my local Catholic Church. I was called a prostitute, a was accused of being a witch and an occultist, I was excluded by the priest who I found out later that this woman who worked there her name is Jill O Sutherland is the priests girlfriend and lover. I was accused of things that are to horrific to talk about and this church suppose to be of Christ. It rocked my world and changed me forever. I was a loving person once full of life and happy. Now I am an Atheist. This religion is satanic and anyone who is a Catholic is not my friend. It destroyed my life. Shame on this sick and twisted cult called the Catholic Church.
Thats is not true catholicism. Losing your Faith was not the solution. Did he just start insulting you out of nothing? What was this about? If you dont mind sharing that is. Ive been accross some cranky priests but never abusive or rude. I know unfortunately that there are some. Same with nuns. Ive 3 months in a cloister monastery and well the nuns were not very spiritual except for a very elderly sweet nun who did the laundry. But well at least there was not abuse going on. They did get quite petty and gossiped on each other but no abuse
@@etcwhateverYou think being petty and gossiping is not sin? Especially when they embody Christ? That’s a big red flag. They can be abusive with those traits
The Catholic Church is not satanic that is a lie straight from the devil
Women are abused at somany places. One has to say that Church has courage to be truthful about it.
As long as i live i never trust this church i rather stay home and pray in my room. Wasting time.
I agree 100% it's a lot of abusive priests that just care about nothing but money and promotion
Why are you pointing at a picture, clearly a Communion photo, based on age, stating this is my Baptism?
Not everyone gets baptised as a baby, some people are baptised at a later age
Don’t know how I got here but I do study the Bible and Jesus warned of false religiousness and religion. Those acts of abuse are not imperfectness but evil deeds of the devil!
Matthew 7:22 -23;
22Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’
23And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’
Dam those nuns that abuse other nuns that cant defend them self. God help them 😇
Straight collar bones.
Evil sisters
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GO NAVY 🇺🇲🪖💘🌎
SHAME ON THEM NOT ON ME !!! ✨
Each of you should have done extensive research before entering the convent. There are countless autbiographies published by current and former nuns. You should never move blindly to any place. All of those games about food and lack of social contact is commonplace. Further, you should've had an outside benefactor with money who could support you inside and outside of the convent. As far as the physical abuse, you should know that was unacceptable.After the first physical assault, you should have made haste to notify someone in authority, or you should have left. I am a peacemaker; however, I would not have tolerated that disturbed nun who physically assaulted you, if I were in you shoes.
It's easier said than done. Decades ago, there was no internet so the ways in which you could research those convents were very limited. Even now, some orders make sure that they have no websites and thet very little about them appears on the internet. Those who have web pages also ensure that only positive or neutral info gets out. Obiously, still some information might leak online, with some luck. In this way one of my relatives avoided joining a lax abbey. As for ex-novices in this documentary, they were trauma-bonded so they didn't leave their communities as they perhaps sould. The same mechanism as with wives of abusive men.
I was in Italy I could not escape they locked me up took my passport I did call home but I could not get out of the country to return home police are not like that in america
U guys are all hypocrite, u are enslaving women at the same time accusing another religion of enslaving women, wow.
People who join celibate religious orders already have major issues with personality defects, childhood abuse, and not a healthy concept of self. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that these tragedies happen. The normal healthy model is men and women in monogamous marriages with children. Only a small fraction of people deviate from the norm. Always be wary- living in a convent doesn’t mean you’ve spent anytime working on yourself, personal growth, self development. Those are what the goal of life should be, not hiding out in a religious order.
They would like to see justice. Interesting but that sister's side is missing.
Church is serious. Babylon keeps babbling on, you can be certain of it. It is not cultist since anybody knows that the requisites are strict. The sister is just proving to them that Jesus is perfect, not her. Where else can she make attestment of this? These ladies are not my favorites.
Listen, for no discipline, go see much of the world & the non-stop talking government with no finesse. These ladies are not ready for Jesus. They don't want to fix themselves. Who am I to say this? Check my profile!
Hate to sound evil, but you could’ve left at any time and filed a lawsuit
Those testimonies are really important. Thanks a lot for this video. Nevertheless, coffee and sugar can be reduced and take with more caution as they are having an impact. One of the speakers told how whitdrawal was used as a manipulation tool. In another context, it might be helpful to reduce their consommation as they are responsible of moodswing and more. I personnaly prefer not to have coffee as its laxative effect impairs my transit.
What is wrong with people, no means no lĺl
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By fellow nuns or ? 🤔
This is what happens hen people can't marry.
What? They did not want to marry.
seems it was 5 nuns. what happened too the other nuns. were they all abused?
Where's The Truth
Did this young nuns work somewhere? or just stay in the room?
Because it was run like a cult and not an actual religious order, the situation was extremely odd. Most taught and others worked in medical places. But it was so insane that the gigs never lasted very long.
2024.
Hige hands.
do not blame anyone that's why you are granted a chance of formation and novitiate. it is a way of life full of hardships and temptations. yours is to lead +Obedience. to follow Christ is to go though what he went through. seek help from your spiritual directors and other religious orders and community may the Lord send you consolation from above
I am curious.
I see a lot of people posting things like they are praying to god for the victims, etc.
Isn't that the same god who allowed the abuse in the first place?
Thanks.
No. This is Catholicism. Research. They don’t worship God they worship Mary.
@@biddibee3526 I'd say they "admire" Mary.
I say "They" because I researched it for 18 dull, boring, confusing, and dishonest years before I left.
Even if they were praying to Mary, I have to wonder if it would be the Same Mary who allowed the abuse in the first place.
Excuse me, you are mistaken.
God allows FREE WILL. Period.
@@biddibee3526 You are mistaken. Catholics do not WORSHIP Mary. Catholics WORSHIP JESUS.
Catholics HONOUR Mary .
@@meridethtohayes I'll bet you never had PROPER Catholic Catechism, or your mind was elsewhere.
It is R.A.P.E. Roman Abusive Priests Everywhere.
Estimated to be under 5%, less than other professions.
What would you expect from "holy?" MOTHER church; the MOTHER of harlots and abominations of the earth that is described so clearly in chapters 17 & 18 in the last book of the bible - Revelation. Read and STUDY it for yourself.
I know some folks don't want to hear it but , it's real like the sun and moon on the sky! Catholicism and christianity are not the same. Vatican is a organization structured totally against the Biblical teaching! simple examples! celibacy oath! totally against the gospel. The Pope? Jesus said do not be called father, you only have on father in heaven. And Your holiness? How a person who can read missed chapters in the Bible which comparers human holienes to............?
St. Paul calls himself a Spiritual father in the Bible. Jesus is not speaking literally, or else we shouldn't be allowed to call our human fathers father either. Or to call anyone teacher.
There you calling it regions ,but ot Christian b
A man made religion that puts Mary before God. Prayers to statues of Mary and statues, totally against the Ten Commandments.
That's not catholicism. You're making up lies. Satan is the prince of lies....🤔
@@flower5396 common knowledge.
“To be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant.”
"Thou shall molest and sexually abuse the nuns and little ones" - Jahwe's 11th commandment
Our Lord Jesus is very Holy and Righteous. He even told to love our enemies and not to commit adultery. Read the Gospels and you will see that.
Do not blame God for what people do! My faith teaches love and honesty.
This order was not recognized by the Vatican.
The SMMI was recognized. The order that Patrizi tried to start around 2009 was not. I have the paperwork.
Mason's Lie. As well as keep the secrets.
Do these women know what the Little Flower suffered?
Do you often side with abusers?
What has St Therese of Lesieux to do with this? Because she put up with abuse others should? And since when is physical, sexual, or emotional abuse appropriate? Have you ever lived in a women's monastery? If you haven't you can't possibly understand what these women have gone through? I have. Eventually I was tonsured, (Eastern Orthodox) but I live alone. I came from a background abuse. I didn't need any more. I even had a superior threaten to beat me. I said "The first time you hit me will be the last". How is threatening to beat someone helpful spiritually? I left and never returned.These women have been traumatized--years later, you can still hear how it has affected them. If you haven't experienced it, you cannot possibly understand.