i love the team environment - it was so nice and supportive which is great for someone who gets nervous like korone. Much love to korone and her teammates
Yea it was amazing! Korone was feeling so down and was crying for abit, but I'm so glad she got on a few mini games with everyone else and cheered up after! It's really heartwarming!
Despite the results, korone was able to pull off everything she learned and even directly applicated nanai’s advice in between matches on the spot like how he said to jump before getting cornered by botan. Theres nothing else but to feel proud of her! Hopefully doggo is able to join more tournaments and gain more experience!
She actually didn't she was so nervous she forgot like half of the things her coach taught her which is fine and understandable but she did not pull of what was taught to her if she did she would have won. She pulled off what her coach told minutes before the match but forgot the 3 days of practice. Watch her match with Botan she only did her basic punch blow away combo once. And she spammed the down spikes instead of alternating and injecting grabs here and there
@@venkaramon she did do a few misses here and there and definitely was not as great as during her scrim but nanai said himself that she did everything that he taught her and I don't think we, who knows only a percentage of what they trained, can question him. Whether it's just for morale support or he was genuinely saying that, we should definitely have faith in his statements as her coach. Ps : I'm so glad she decides to still play sf6 and didn't lose her passion for it😆
Feels like she performed better in the earlier videos; I guess the tournament nerves got to her. Still, she did a solid job and got a win for her team! Her sensei praising her was so wholesome.
Hats off to Nanai-san for teaching our doggo so well! Nanai is pronounced the same as mother in our country (Nanay) and that makes him Korone's mom in SF6! Haha so proud of them both and the Kazoo team for doing their best! Thx again J for the translations!
Thanks for clipping the matches. I missed the first two live. Glad to see how far she pushed her opponents. She's really improving, even with her tournament nerves.
I've never been much into korones content but seeing them progress so quickly in sf6 is pretty nice. Super sick showing, tournament nerves are rough, been there before. Can't wait to see you run it back
She did amazing especially going up against people that used modern controls and her using classic controls. She truly is becoming a JP main and used her tools quite effectively. She just needs to learn how to capitalize on her life leads, opponent’s burnout, and punishes effectively. Proud of this doggo
hopefully ppl extend their support and give credit to ALL the newbies in this tournament, all the low rank ppl were playing their first tournament and just like korone, are new to SF6. Everyone, even the pros, were all nervous xD The tournament format is great, fg legends being captains of a team from beginners to seasoned players. would be awesome to see this format used for a western FG tournament as well, get more pros/casters and streamers/english vtubers into this it's great seeing how everyone basically was having fun and are more interested in sf6, the viewer numbers were fantastic on twitch as well also i encourage everyone to watch the entire tournament, was great one especially seeing Daigo-san clutch and win it in the grand finals. all the teams were supporting their teammates and the comms all around were a lot of fun, so many ppl put in a lot of time for this tournament and it showed for many of them hopefully the teams return for future racoon cups.
The excitement during the matches was off the roof! I was jumping and shouting while watching and people in our house thought something was happening! 😂😂 But man, Korone did so well! So proud of her. They all did well and here's to hoping we can more of Korone competing not only in SF but maybe other fighting games. She got the spirit of a fighter! She can bring the heat but well keeping a cool head sure is difficult during a competition. My hands were shaking too haha just by watching. As always thank you for the translations! 27 mins! ❤❤
thank you for the long clip translation! Think Korone and other competitors all played very well, showing knowledge and skill in who they are fighting against. Very fun to watch!
I saw the final reaction of Korone when the tournament ended, it broke my heart when she cried about it. She put so much effort, it hurts watching her feeling very sad. It was a good experience after this tournament since it was her first tournament. I'm glad she took the challenge, sure it might not win it but next time she will definitely win!
@@Bakuganluver23 Exactly, I remember my first time in a similar situation and I was frustrated that i let my team down too. So i totally understand her. I'm pretty sure everyone went through that before
its understandable tho, she just fell so disappointed in herself i guess, cause we know that korone actually can do so much better than what she did in the tourney, the nerves get to her maybe, just need to train her mental more to bring up her 100% during tournament..
So proud of her. My favorite part of the stream besies cheering the poor doggo up. Was her truly Witnessing the magic of fighting games with the set of fights between Daigo and Fudo. Swept daigo for 3 games with his unstoppable Dehlsam then The beast goes in and completely reverses it after being left with like 5 percent health. What a comeback and korone watched it all. It was like watching a match in evo.
Oh shit, I didn't know YY was in this too. His stuff is great even if you don't understand much, his Planet Coaster and Scrap Mechanic playthroughs were hilarious.
She held on so well despite definitely struggling a lot with nerves. Like even not knowing much about the game I could see that she was doing the wrong inputs more and wasn't getting as many of those sick ranged combos. Yet despite that she held her own every time. Hopefully she does something like this again because you can really see her potential. Like when she got the advice about jumping forwards sooner and just destroyed Botan in the next game where she was doing a better job of her positioning(also I think most of her opponents learned to counter her by pushing her into the corner).
Even seeing Botan's improvement was really impressive but it was so good rooting for best doggo. Such fluid gameplay keeps you on the edge. You can see Korone work herself nervous, she chats to her team and calms down but then the pressure of the deciding round mounts up on her. She can talk about taking fingers all day but she's still mega cute at the end of it all!
I really like the atmosphere within her team. Everyone is friendly and welcoming. She had a great time practicing and learning new techniques. Unfortunately, she seems so excited that she doesn't play like she did during practice. Her opponent was much better than when they were practicing together. She's doing very well for her first time. But this will also be a good experience for her and make new friends.
Man i haven't touched a fighting except smash series against my friends for fun and a bit of art of fighting for SNES but not serious. This stream and the demo made me buy this game. Korone as well as Botan really did a great job.
She did pretty good for someone who barely playing SF6, and went for her 1st tourney ever. I hope she is not discouraged and participate on events like this more ❤
Korone's biggest weakness right now is that she isn't comfortable anywhere but full screen. In any other situation, she'll panic back jump repeatedly, even after she lands her counter for some reason, even tho she should be using that moment to put herself in a favorable situation.
She got better with all the training and practice scrims. This was also her first actual tournament, even if its not a high level one its still her first. She did fairly well. Seems that the concensus against her is that she is weak against close range. She also backs herself into a corner when in a panic. So they just let her corner herself before punching in. It is a team match however and her team really helps raise her confidence at times.
I didn't have the chance to watch it live but seeing the fight for the first time makes me nervous as Korone. I even forgot that I'm eating while watching this.
She did well. She was executing on what she wanted to do. She wasn’t panic level 3 or DI-ing which is the trap most new players fall into. The rest is practice and experience
Her nerves got to her but she still managed to recover and win games and make her opponents work for the match wins. If her nerves didn't get to her, I'm convinced she would've beat K4sen and swept Botan. As for YY and Blanka, it was in part nerves and in part playing too defensively. She has a tendency in all games to play really cautiously/defensively when she' unsure and thatt can work against her, especially in a fighting game where you gotta take those opportunities to be aggressive. Overall she should be proud of her performance. She really put all the training she did on display.
People here surprised with how supportive people are let me tell you that's just how these things in JP go. CR Cup V saikyou literally any tournament these people are super supportive of each other. The only time they will joke about being bad is if they're really really close to each other example is how Daruma flames Kenki every now and then because of a running joke they have between them
I wonder if any of the coaches ever said to any of their first round players “jumping will kill you in SF.” I’m a complete beginner and I’ve still seen enough to know you should jump with purpose, not as a primary or even secondary way to move around.
I don’t think it’s that bad; like someone else said, the only bad thing about it is that Korone drove herself into the corner by repeatedly back jumping, and then her corner defense really isn’t that good..
She just got nervous nothing more, but she's a excellent player. This is bc her lack of experience but you just can get more experienced playing and she's doing it. Great korone!
The biggest "problem" is she's still very inexperienced, and it seems like she's needing to "think" through a lot of her moves too. Both of those things can be fixed as she has more games under her.
She was great for her first tourney. It's a little sad she didn't manage to win those winnable matches because of her mistakes due to her nerves getting into her but that's just a given.
She kept forgetting to Forward Jump off the corners, that's how K4sen won his matches. Edit: She loses to YY also being cornered, its her absolute weakness, just leaving herself to be cornered and losing the match. Edit 2: She lost to Botan also being cornered, its kinda frustrating seeing how she forgot to Forward Jump like Nanai and the others told her to.
If only the west show this kind of community(pro teaches streamers no exp in fighting game on to win a small tournament) would get a lot of people to watch and even try to play.
I think it was for Korone's sake. Korone said she would like to participate with Botan if he participates. I'm using a translator, so I'm sorry if this sentence doesn't make sense.
Botan and Korone agreed to participate only if the other one would join (both were asked and that was their condition), also Botan already played a tournament (lighthearted) almost two yrs ago where the prize was to win a BF t-shirt, she played with Towa and her friends.
I think Korone really just got too much into her own head. She's the only one who was playing on Classic controls, and she's playing JP who requires a fair bit of execution compared to a lot of the characters she was up against. I think from a fundamental standpoint she might be a better player than her opponents. The problem is that she defaulted to up back and put herself in the corner too frequently. She needs to be more willing to pressure back. When she can set her own game up she does really well, but the second she faces a bit of pushback she crumbles and panics.
So, im not a street fighter guy, can anyone explain how the hell, that a gold guy, got matched to a bronze player? im just assuming thats their rank? unless its not the rank?
These teams are mixed new players or at least relatively inexperienced streamers and veterans. Guess they decide their own order Makes sense strategically to make Korone the point, but this is all just my interpretation I don't have the full context for the rules
That would be one of the biggest problems with being a vtuber who's practicing up for a big tournament: anybody who wants to learn your moves can just watch and take notes. Kind of unfair, really.
Everyone's a streamer here and in SF6 you can just check their match replay by their username(which is valid for the tournament). Botan and Korone arent the only newcomers, theres also YY, Oniya, K4sen, and Kanae as well.
@@jjQlLlLq we live in an era that clips mostly last 1 minute. Having the whole korone matches, plus the details like who was the rival and the coaching and cheers from her team mid games really tells the full story here. Its a really well made video.
@@Chamadzero Well yes, I know of that too. I just meant that this channel isn't the only channel that's been doing long clips all this time is all. It's not that dark out here. Polritz, Nerrev, Ranivus, VioleClips, HoloLover to name a couple.
@@jjQlLlLq Exactly what that guy answered you, the channels I used to watch that were high quality like this (colored subtitles, translation or information notes and well-written English) either stopped or switched to short clips. Seems like the quality of clippers went down by a lot after Myth debuted with a lot more new channels fighting for the attention of a new audience and clippers trying to be the first ones to get a certain moments of a stream. I know there are still great channels out there but they seem to be in the minority these days.
Some analysis in simple terms for people who don’t play fighting games: Korone demonstrates excellent understanding and control of the distance and timing of JP’s long range options, and she demonstrates that she theoretically has the knowledge and technique to fight back at close range. However, Korone’s main weakness as a player is that she’s bad at initiating offense once her opponents get close. In fighting game lingo, we would say she doesn’t take her turn and lets her opponents approach her for free. She jumps back and uses JP’s heavy kick in the air a lot, which isn’t very tactically sound. If her opponents approach her recklessly, then the heavy kick will land and will give her a combo opportunity, but otherwise she drives herself into the corner and makes her reactions more predictable. This compounds her main secondary weakness, that her corner defense isn’t very good. Korone tends to fall back on options she’s practiced heavily in the corner. While these options are effective, her over-reliance on them allows her opponents to come up with reliable counters. These weaknesses are most clearly on display in her matches against K4sen. In scrims, K4sen was far more reliant on approaching Korone with jumps, which Korone was able to counter semi-reliably. However, in tournament, K4sen took advantage of Dee Jay’s high speed to approach Korone from the ground and pile on offensive pressure. This approach is technically more predictable but very difficult to react intelligently to even at high levels, and Korone wasn’t prepared for it. Her performance improved as she became more willing to initiate offense and punish K4sen for trying to take free turns, but K4sen adapted by throwing out Dee Jay’s projectiles. While these didn’t do much damage, they disrupted Korone enough to discourage her from trying to take full advantage of her long-range options, making it more difficult for her to find opportunities for effective damage. Korone played well, but K4sen came tactically prepared for her. Korone did very well in the match against YY, particularly in using her long-ranged options to disrupt YY’s approach attempts. However, she again allowed herself to be cornered too easily and faced solid counters to her corner tactics. YY also outperformed K4sen in mixing up his approach options, making it more difficult for Korone to defend properly. Korone gets grabbed at the start of most rounds because Blanka’s leaping grab has an ambiguous animation that looks like he’s jumping in for a strike, and she doesn’t realize the mistake until it’s too late. Blanka has many ambiguous options like this, and YY uses them effectively to open Korone up for big damage. Botan’s character, Marisa, excels at piling on high offensive pressure in the corner. While there are ways to counter her, Korone’s unwillingness to take her turn meant that Botan was free to just keep on attacking her. However, Botan has more difficulty driving Korone into the corner than K4sen and YY, and Korone prevails by staying out of the corner and using her long-range options to punish Botan for trying to force her way in. I admire Korone so much for accomplishing all this while playing with Classic controls on an arcade controller! Hearing those clicks and clacks really brings across how much effort she put into this.
that, and in botan's case; JP as a character is difficult to fight unless you're prepared and had experienced fighting him multiple time to know his option in a match
They did warn her to jump aggressively to escape from the corner and not fight from it. This did turn out a factor. That darn "grasshopper" or "flying Dee Jay" style is definitely a thing.
Can we also give credit where due to the folks she went against? Korone went from forgetting to block, to taking in Nanai's training, becoming a beast and bodying. That in turn gave all her opponents a wake up rival, and made them put in the work. While my respect is still with Korone's sticking it out with classic controls on a zone heavy character, my heart still loves a personal growth story that gets everyone involved to want to grow the same. Incredible journey. I really hope this is just the first chapter of many.
A beast?... I mean yeah, going from zero to this is certainly something to respect, but since KAZUNOKO was her coach... I expected more. Not against blanka because that character is fucking cancer if you do not know its frame data, but from the rest... Yeeeeeeee. She is still not even close to learning basic fundamentals, Neutral, anti airs, etc. I'm not even a vtuber guy, but I will follow her a bit to see if she tries to improve past this.
@@YMT_N_Oro I see that you have no idea who Korone is, sure that she could have spend whole day sitting in front of computer training and master everything. but she can’t. being an idol there is a lot of thing she have to do going on her side, and getting this much better consider all that and in only 4 days is pretty impressive.
Had the clip ready as soon as the stream ended, what a fun tourney, even if it didnt turn out how they wanted, glad they all had so much fun. Thanks for the clip a whole 27 min!
What I liked is that her team continued to encourage her. Never concentrating on mistakes and always giving cues to counterattack. After a defeat it is always frustrating and it is very common to say I could have done this or that. But he always insisted "you did everything we had practiced". Korone cried in frustration but surely if she participates again she will be in a good place.
but its also bad cause if you see in all of her match she never learn from his mistakes like keep getting her self to the corner by keep jumping and never using an anti air moves
@@gavinoelias1374 She did learned and They did pointed out her mistakes and teaches her if you actually watched any of the practice stream. Tbh she did much better during practice and scrims then on the tourney which i put it down to nerves. She did default into back jumping when shes not thinking too much tho which i put it down to her PTSD of getting rolling attack to death by Blanka during the scrims lol
@@gavinoelias1374s a novice, you wouldn't even know these are mistakes. No one knows the concept of corner pressure, footsies and all that at the start. Remember, these are beginners in their first tournament match. There's no reason to expect mid game adaptations from them. That's what the coaches are for.
1st an indee fighting game based on vtubers gets released and is very successful Now a vtuber clips channel posts fighting matches What a decade to live in as a fan of both communities
Was an avid FGC watcher and player during SF3 and SF4 days. I fell off during SFV: watching wasn't as enjoyable and no one I knew played it unlike SF4 and UMVC3. Now I can't believe vtubers are bringing me back in with SF6
I dont what happened between now and the tourney but Korone must have been so nervous. She wasnt playing anything like what she was during the weeks in the lead up. But still this girl went in there using CLASSIC controls against other newbies who were all going with modern and still held her own. Wonder if this is the last we shall see of Korone and SFVI or if she will stick with it on the back end and continue to train to get better
I don’t know for sure, but I can say this… I watched Korone and the team as they spectated the grand finals, and after witnessing Daigo’s incredible comeback against Fuudo’s nearly unstoppable Dhalsim someone in chat translated Korone as saying “I want to learn Ken now.” 😊
Yea I think she was too nervous. She wasn't playing as aggressive as she did in scrims/practice, most of the time being too passive and just waiting for opponents to make their moves. Her controls to cast skills and counters were also better during the scrims.
That's just how tournament nerves goes, especially when you're playing for a team and you feel the weight of your wins and losses even more. If she used her supers, level 2 especially, she definitely could've closed out those close games. Despite her obvious nerves, she kept it close.
I mean even with her nerves she forced 3 game 3s and all of them went through the wire it could had gone neither way she should fell proud for her performance.
@@kinglightning5256Right, even a split second of difference from her or her opponent in some of those game 3’s could have led to a completely different outcome. She has nothing to feel bad about.
I think Botan is the most surprising. In short time she fought well a against well trained Classic JP. I think if she were'nt busy and started training from day one, she might beat everyone on her card lol.
Awesome job from Korone even facing higher ranked opponents. Notice how everyone she faced was using modern controls? At this level of play modern makes a huge difference, especially since there's less things you need to focus on. She did super well!
Nothing against the other players here, but Korone was easily the player with the most potential here. If they had more time to teach her movement in neutral, she'd have bodied them all. For a new player the mental strain of classic vs modern controls is a lot. Even without godlike coaches, she could actually become a solid FG player.
She was doing great but tournament nerves really got to her. She was always running away to the corner where she always got pressured and died. Hope she sticks with sf6 and the crazy raccoon continues to do this. One of the best fighting game events I've watched.
I tuned in just in time for the K4sen match, it was really exhilarating to watch her zone in and play. You could tell she was super nervous but she really held her own! I'm super proud of her
Despite what Nanai said, I think Korone was playing a LOT better during scrims/training, so, unfortunately, I think nerves really got to her. I think if she managed to stay calm (which isn't easy on your first tournament, so I don't blame her!), she could've beat the Deejay and quite handily so (Blanka maybe not, cause she still has a lot of trouble against the character).
Even the best JP player will struggle against rushdown as he is a ranged fighter still she did really well for someone with as little time in street fighter six as she has that said she picked one hell of a coach to show her the ropes so abit more training and a spot at Evo isn't out of the question
She definitely could've beat beaten those two, but I'm proud of her regardless because it was really close. She only use a super once (and once on accident) and missed out on a lot of damage to close out games because of nerves. It happens. It just reminds me of my first tournament when I'm happy I went 1-2 and not 0-2.
Yes. Korone plugged up many of her defensive gaps from the scrims, but her offense got a lot worse. I think she panicked too much and was struggling to adjust and make decisions on the fly. Being indecisive made her passive and more predictable and she was more on auto pilot, mindlessly retreating, attempting jump kicks with poor timing, often in succession. She whiffed lots of jump kicks where delaying the kick would have lead to a hit and combo. Her lack of Drive Impact to get out of pressure made a massive difference. The pressure from afar was weaker because of opting to retreat more and her ranged mixups were at times more predictable. I think she was overusing the low attack because its input is easier. This was an adjustment she made because of the nerves. When you're really nervous, you can get shaky hands which makes stick movements really hard. Especially noticeable was the lack of ranged grabs and teleporting.
This was a joy to watch, seeing the beginners take on each other with pros as their teachers in this tourney format was crazy good. I do think Korone was implementing her game plan pretty well but noticed the nerves got to her when playing, it's not anything bad its just the amount of eyes on you under performance when in a tournament setting is def gonna make you anxious. Botan did well for a complete newbie as well too! I do hope more new tourneys like this keep coming
Fun tournament to watch all the way from scrim days to the main event!! Great seeing all the teams vibe in their group and some of them made new friends too! Korone's team after party event was full of great team moments
It was a real delight watching the real life Idol Showdown between Korone and Botan live, haha. Korone really put up a great fight throughout even if the results didn't go her way in the other matches due to tournament nerves.
That first match had me on the edge and that first match vs Blanka in the first game was phenomenal, impeccable play. Looking her playing like that somehow makes you feel so...proud? Like a combination of happiness and proud, it's amazing and awesome. Also that match against Botan was so epic lol Watching both of my fav girls battling it's very epic. Good job doggo, I'm sad I couldn't follow all her SF arc but I will when I have time! (Also will follow Botan SF arc). 23:53 SO CUTEEEEE!!! 🥹
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i love the team environment - it was so nice and supportive which is great for someone who gets nervous like korone. Much love to korone and her teammates
Nanai especially comes off like a cool big bro in the voice chat
@@nai3346 And Kazunoko is the cool uncle lol
Aah that was a fun one~ not long after saying goodbye they just decided to chat and play few random game modes was funny and heartwarming
Yea it was amazing! Korone was feeling so down and was crying for abit, but I'm so glad she got on a few mini games with everyone else and cheered up after! It's really heartwarming!
Despite the results, korone was able to pull off everything she learned and even directly applicated nanai’s advice in between matches on the spot like how he said to jump before getting cornered by botan.
Theres nothing else but to feel proud of her! Hopefully doggo is able to join more tournaments and gain more experience!
She actually didn't she was so nervous she forgot like half of the things her coach taught her which is fine and understandable but she did not pull of what was taught to her if she did she would have won. She pulled off what her coach told minutes before the match but forgot the 3 days of practice. Watch her match with Botan she only did her basic punch blow away combo once. And she spammed the down spikes instead of alternating and injecting grabs here and there
@@venkaramon she did do a few misses here and there and definitely was not as great as during her scrim but nanai said himself that she did everything that he taught her and I don't think we, who knows only a percentage of what they trained, can question him. Whether it's just for morale support or he was genuinely saying that, we should definitely have faith in his statements as her coach.
Ps : I'm so glad she decides to still play sf6 and didn't lose her passion for it😆
Feels like she performed better in the earlier videos; I guess the tournament nerves got to her. Still, she did a solid job and got a win for her team! Her sensei praising her was so wholesome.
Hats off to Nanai-san for teaching our doggo so well! Nanai is pronounced the same as mother in our country (Nanay) and that makes him Korone's mom in SF6! Haha so proud of them both and the Kazoo team for doing their best! Thx again J for the translations!
Can't wait to see Botan's matches clipped, so proud of Korone to see her improve from when she just started playing SF, glad to see she's having fun
Thank you for the tournament summarization Clip Jshay! Much appreciated!
Korone did her best as a first-timer 🎉
Thanks for clipping the matches. I missed the first two live. Glad to see how far she pushed her opponents. She's really improving, even with her tournament nerves.
Thank you for the translations, Korone did so well despite all her nerves. I’m so proud of her, it was fun to watch her matches!
I've never been much into korones content but seeing them progress so quickly in sf6 is pretty nice. Super sick showing, tournament nerves are rough, been there before. Can't wait to see you run it back
She did amazing especially going up against people that used modern controls and her using classic controls. She truly is becoming a JP main and used her tools quite effectively. She just needs to learn how to capitalize on her life leads, opponent’s burnout, and punishes effectively. Proud of this doggo
hopefully ppl extend their support and give credit to ALL the newbies in this tournament, all the low rank ppl were playing their first tournament and just like korone, are new to SF6. Everyone, even the pros, were all nervous xD
The tournament format is great, fg legends being captains of a team from beginners to seasoned players. would be awesome to see this format used for a western FG tournament as well, get more pros/casters and streamers/english vtubers into this
it's great seeing how everyone basically was having fun and are more interested in sf6, the viewer numbers were fantastic on twitch as well
also i encourage everyone to watch the entire tournament, was great one especially seeing Daigo-san clutch and win it in the grand finals.
all the teams were supporting their teammates and the comms all around were a lot of fun, so many ppl put in a lot of time for this tournament and it showed for many of them
hopefully the teams return for future racoon cups.
Thanks for the fully translated series, that was such a joy, keep em coming and I'll keep watching :3
The excitement during the matches was off the roof! I was jumping and shouting while watching and people in our house thought something was happening! 😂😂 But man, Korone did so well! So proud of her. They all did well and here's to hoping we can more of Korone competing not only in SF but maybe other fighting games. She got the spirit of a fighter! She can bring the heat but well keeping a cool head sure is difficult during a competition. My hands were shaking too haha just by watching. As always thank you for the translations! 27 mins! ❤❤
thank you for the long clip translation! Think Korone and other competitors all played very well, showing knowledge and skill in who they are fighting against. Very fun to watch!
I saw the final reaction of Korone when the tournament ended, it broke my heart when she cried about it. She put so much effort, it hurts watching her feeling very sad. It was a good experience after this tournament since it was her first tournament. I'm glad she took the challenge, sure it might not win it but next time she will definitely win!
nobody wins their first tournament right out the gate, right? she has room to improve for the next time.
@@Bakuganluver23 Exactly, I remember my first time in a similar situation and I was frustrated that i let my team down too. So i totally understand her. I'm pretty sure everyone went through that before
the crying clip was actually from before the tourney :P
@@Insane_Kane I’m guessing u didn’t watch her livestream after the tournament
its understandable tho, she just fell so disappointed in herself i guess, cause we know that korone actually can do so much better than what she did in the tourney, the nerves get to her maybe, just need to train her mental more to bring up her 100% during tournament..
Korone is so cute and she played really well for a beginner. She must be protected at all costs
this korone sf6 tournament debut really made me cry lol, idk why. b
It really is impressive how far she came. She sounded a little emotional at the end of the stream but I hope she feels proud! She deserves to.
So proud of her! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Always proving that she’s the sweatiest most hardcore gamer in Hololive! Way to go Koro chan!!!
So proud of her. My favorite part of the stream besies cheering the poor doggo up. Was her truly Witnessing the magic of fighting games with the set of fights between Daigo and Fudo. Swept daigo for 3 games with his unstoppable Dehlsam then The beast goes in and completely reverses it after being left with like 5 percent health. What a comeback and korone watched it all. It was like watching a match in evo.
Oh shit, I didn't know YY was in this too. His stuff is great even if you don't understand much, his Planet Coaster and Scrap Mechanic playthroughs were hilarious.
She held on so well despite definitely struggling a lot with nerves. Like even not knowing much about the game I could see that she was doing the wrong inputs more and wasn't getting as many of those sick ranged combos. Yet despite that she held her own every time.
Hopefully she does something like this again because you can really see her potential. Like when she got the advice about jumping forwards sooner and just destroyed Botan in the next game where she was doing a better job of her positioning(also I think most of her opponents learned to counter her by pushing her into the corner).
Even seeing Botan's improvement was really impressive but it was so good rooting for best doggo. Such fluid gameplay keeps you on the edge.
You can see Korone work herself nervous, she chats to her team and calms down but then the pressure of the deciding round mounts up on her. She can talk about taking fingers all day but she's still mega cute at the end of it all!
I really like the atmosphere within her team. Everyone is friendly and welcoming. She had a great time practicing and learning new techniques.
Unfortunately, she seems so excited that she doesn't play like she did during practice. Her opponent was much better than when they were practicing together. She's doing very well for her first time.
But this will also be a good experience for her and make new friends.
Man i haven't touched a fighting except smash series against my friends for fun and a bit of art of fighting for SNES but not serious. This stream and the demo made me buy this game.
Korone as well as Botan really did a great job.
I watched what I could live. Very proud of my oshi! She did great!
Very inspiring to watch! Fighting games are so much fun!
She did pretty good for someone who barely playing SF6, and went for her 1st tourney ever. I hope she is not discouraged and participate on events like this more ❤
Korone's biggest weakness right now is that she isn't comfortable anywhere but full screen. In any other situation, she'll panic back jump repeatedly, even after she lands her counter for some reason, even tho she should be using that moment to put herself in a favorable situation.
i can feel korone is nervous, but she's doing great, nice job our doggo
She got better with all the training and practice scrims. This was also her first actual tournament, even if its not a high level one its still her first. She did fairly well. Seems that the concensus against her is that she is weak against close range. She also backs herself into a corner when in a panic. So they just let her corner herself before punching in. It is a team match however and her team really helps raise her confidence at times.
This was a very fun event to happen, vtubers ando other streamers being trained by fighting game goats like Kazunoko led to so many fun moments
I didn't have the chance to watch it live but seeing the fight for the first time makes me nervous as Korone. I even forgot that I'm eating while watching this.
I give props to Crazy Raccoon for hosting a casual Street Fighter 6 tournament. Hoping for a VOD of the main stream soon on TH-cam.
Thanks for the TL!!!
She lost the first two but she have in the bag, was so close!!
Can't believe I watch almost the whole stream, including the cow match. Been a while since I had ton of fun watching long stream
She did well. She was executing on what she wanted to do. She wasn’t panic level 3 or DI-ing which is the trap most new players fall into. The rest is practice and experience
The tension ! I'm all in !!
7:37 korone casually forgets how biology works
Botan lol
Awww Korone tried her best. Glad to see she's having so much fun! JP fits her play perfectly
Her nerves got to her but she still managed to recover and win games and make her opponents work for the match wins. If her nerves didn't get to her, I'm convinced she would've beat K4sen and swept Botan. As for YY and Blanka, it was in part nerves and in part playing too defensively. She has a tendency in all games to play really cautiously/defensively when she' unsure and thatt can work against her, especially in a fighting game where you gotta take those opportunities to be aggressive.
Overall she should be proud of her performance. She really put all the training she did on display.
People here surprised with how supportive people are let me tell you that's just how these things in JP go. CR Cup V saikyou literally any tournament these people are super supportive of each other. The only time they will joke about being bad is if they're really really close to each other example is how Daruma flames Kenki every now and then because of a running joke they have between them
I wonder if any of the coaches ever said to any of their first round players “jumping will kill you in SF.” I’m a complete beginner and I’ve still seen enough to know you should jump with purpose, not as a primary or even secondary way to move around.
I don’t think it’s that bad; like someone else said, the only bad thing about it is that Korone drove herself into the corner by repeatedly back jumping, and then her corner defense really isn’t that good..
Korone had yomi in that first round against YY, hot damn!
She just got nervous nothing more, but she's a excellent player. This is bc her lack of experience but you just can get more experienced playing and she's doing it. Great korone!
Bronze beating a Gold player on a fighting game is pure amazing XD
I am proud of this wonderful, determined doggo.
The biggest "problem" is she's still very inexperienced, and it seems like she's needing to "think" through a lot of her moves too. Both of those things can be fixed as she has more games under her.
She was great for her first tourney. It's a little sad she didn't manage to win those winnable matches because of her mistakes due to her nerves getting into her but that's just a given.
TOO ADORABLE.
Just noticed that even in the Japanese version, a ton of the UI is in English. I wonder how common that is?
Respect for Korone for not switiching to Modern controls and sticking with Classic like a real SF player. It was a fun match.
It's ok Korone. Noone at CEO knew how to deal with Blanka either.
She kept forgetting to Forward Jump off the corners, that's how K4sen won his matches.
Edit: She loses to YY also being cornered, its her absolute weakness, just leaving herself to be cornered and losing the match.
Edit 2: She lost to Botan also being cornered, its kinda frustrating seeing how she forgot to Forward Jump like Nanai and the others told her to.
If only the west show this kind of community(pro teaches streamers no exp in fighting game on to win a small tournament) would get a lot of people to watch and even try to play.
06:14 korone saying let's have a good game to jp 😂
korone is definitely good, but as nanai says she needs to do forward jumps more, but still a very good job for doggo
Still can't believe Botan join some competitive game, i thought she said never want to join any of it
I think it was for Korone's sake.
Korone said she would like to participate with Botan if he participates.
I'm using a translator, so I'm sorry if this sentence doesn't make sense.
Botan and Korone agreed to participate only if the other one would join (both were asked and that was their condition), also Botan already played a tournament (lighthearted) almost two yrs ago where the prize was to win a BF t-shirt, she played with Towa and her friends.
I wish there will after party stream or something like that
Wasn't there also a fight where they both KO at the same time?
Btw does anyone know where can i find all the results of all the matches?
when she uses the reversal that spaws the delayed bombs, can you not attack during it?
I think Korone really just got too much into her own head. She's the only one who was playing on Classic controls, and she's playing JP who requires a fair bit of execution compared to a lot of the characters she was up against. I think from a fundamental standpoint she might be a better player than her opponents. The problem is that she defaulted to up back and put herself in the corner too frequently. She needs to be more willing to pressure back. When she can set her own game up she does really well, but the second she faces a bit of pushback she crumbles and panics.
Nice perfect.
Wow that koro bo tan match was intense knowing how they both been training so hard that was the best match for me kudos to both of them 😊
So, im not a street fighter guy, can anyone explain how the hell, that a gold guy, got matched to a bronze player? im just assuming thats their rank? unless its not the rank?
These teams are mixed new players or at least relatively inexperienced streamers and veterans. Guess they decide their own order
Makes sense strategically to make Korone the point, but this is all just my interpretation I don't have the full context for the rules
street fighter veteran. snes days. go hard, or walk away.
Need to stay out of the corner. All of the losses were because she retreated into the corner and got wall combo'd. move.
That would be one of the biggest problems with being a vtuber who's practicing up for a big tournament: anybody who wants to learn your moves can just watch and take notes. Kind of unfair, really.
Everyone's a streamer here and in SF6 you can just check their match replay by their username(which is valid for the tournament).
Botan and Korone arent the only newcomers, theres also YY, Oniya, K4sen, and Kanae as well.
Uh, you do realise they did scrims against each other right? Korone has fought against all the ones she fought here and learnt each other moves.
Everyone streams their practice sessions, even the pros. There's really no such things as "secret tech" anymore with modern Street Fighter.
Unfair lol
Gotta adapt baby
Where can I find a video of the entire tournament?
So proud of Korone, she did so well and had so much fun
It's actually crazy how quickly she's learned
You really are a blessing, a treasure from a bygone era. They don't make clip channels like yours anymore, thank you for your hard work.
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Clip channels like what, long clips? Because there definitely are, for various members
@@jjQlLlLq we live in an era that clips mostly last 1 minute.
Having the whole korone matches, plus the details like who was the rival and the coaching and cheers from her team mid games really tells the full story here. Its a really well made video.
@@Chamadzero Well yes, I know of that too. I just meant that this channel isn't the only channel that's been doing long clips all this time is all. It's not that dark out here. Polritz, Nerrev, Ranivus, VioleClips, HoloLover to name a couple.
@@jjQlLlLq Exactly what that guy answered you, the channels I used to watch that were high quality like this (colored subtitles, translation or information notes and well-written English) either stopped or switched to short clips. Seems like the quality of clippers went down by a lot after Myth debuted with a lot more new channels fighting for the attention of a new audience and clippers trying to be the first ones to get a certain moments of a stream. I know there are still great channels out there but they seem to be in the minority these days.
Some analysis in simple terms for people who don’t play fighting games:
Korone demonstrates excellent understanding and control of the distance and timing of JP’s long range options, and she demonstrates that she theoretically has the knowledge and technique to fight back at close range. However, Korone’s main weakness as a player is that she’s bad at initiating offense once her opponents get close. In fighting game lingo, we would say she doesn’t take her turn and lets her opponents approach her for free. She jumps back and uses JP’s heavy kick in the air a lot, which isn’t very tactically sound. If her opponents approach her recklessly, then the heavy kick will land and will give her a combo opportunity, but otherwise she drives herself into the corner and makes her reactions more predictable. This compounds her main secondary weakness, that her corner defense isn’t very good. Korone tends to fall back on options she’s practiced heavily in the corner. While these options are effective, her over-reliance on them allows her opponents to come up with reliable counters.
These weaknesses are most clearly on display in her matches against K4sen. In scrims, K4sen was far more reliant on approaching Korone with jumps, which Korone was able to counter semi-reliably. However, in tournament, K4sen took advantage of Dee Jay’s high speed to approach Korone from the ground and pile on offensive pressure. This approach is technically more predictable but very difficult to react intelligently to even at high levels, and Korone wasn’t prepared for it. Her performance improved as she became more willing to initiate offense and punish K4sen for trying to take free turns, but K4sen adapted by throwing out Dee Jay’s projectiles. While these didn’t do much damage, they disrupted Korone enough to discourage her from trying to take full advantage of her long-range options, making it more difficult for her to find opportunities for effective damage. Korone played well, but K4sen came tactically prepared for her.
Korone did very well in the match against YY, particularly in using her long-ranged options to disrupt YY’s approach attempts. However, she again allowed herself to be cornered too easily and faced solid counters to her corner tactics. YY also outperformed K4sen in mixing up his approach options, making it more difficult for Korone to defend properly. Korone gets grabbed at the start of most rounds because Blanka’s leaping grab has an ambiguous animation that looks like he’s jumping in for a strike, and she doesn’t realize the mistake until it’s too late. Blanka has many ambiguous options like this, and YY uses them effectively to open Korone up for big damage.
Botan’s character, Marisa, excels at piling on high offensive pressure in the corner. While there are ways to counter her, Korone’s unwillingness to take her turn meant that Botan was free to just keep on attacking her. However, Botan has more difficulty driving Korone into the corner than K4sen and YY, and Korone prevails by staying out of the corner and using her long-range options to punish Botan for trying to force her way in.
I admire Korone so much for accomplishing all this while playing with Classic controls on an arcade controller! Hearing those clicks and clacks really brings across how much effort she put into this.
very good points
i am a bit familiar with deejay and i find your explanation of deejay matchup 100% mirror mine
Thanks for in-depth explanation, I never invested to FG so I have no idea what's going on. You're very helpful.
that, and in botan's case; JP as a character is difficult to fight unless you're prepared and had experienced fighting him multiple time to know his option in a match
Botan didn't expect that jump kick, that's why she asked how to handle it. Too bad no more practicing.
Still close match btw. Well done to Korone
They did warn her to jump aggressively to escape from the corner and not fight from it. This did turn out a factor. That darn "grasshopper" or "flying Dee Jay" style is definitely a thing.
Can we also give credit where due to the folks she went against? Korone went from forgetting to block, to taking in Nanai's training, becoming a beast and bodying. That in turn gave all her opponents a wake up rival, and made them put in the work. While my respect is still with Korone's sticking it out with classic controls on a zone heavy character, my heart still loves a personal growth story that gets everyone involved to want to grow the same. Incredible journey. I really hope this is just the first chapter of many.
A beast?...
I mean yeah, going from zero to this is certainly something to respect, but since KAZUNOKO was her coach... I expected more.
Not against blanka because that character is fucking cancer if you do not know its frame data, but from the rest... Yeeeeeeee.
She is still not even close to learning basic fundamentals, Neutral, anti airs, etc. I'm not even a vtuber guy, but I will follow her a bit to see if she tries to improve past this.
Korosan @ EVO
@@YMT_N_Oro Terrible take
@@YMT_N_Orothey had like 4 days of practice. No one's learning all the fundamentals in a short time.
@@YMT_N_Oro I see that you have no idea who Korone is, sure that she could have spend whole day sitting in front of computer training and master everything. but she can’t. being an idol there is a lot of thing she have to do going on her side, and getting this much better consider all that and in only 4 days is pretty impressive.
Had the clip ready as soon as the stream ended, what a fun tourney, even if it didnt turn out how they wanted, glad they all had so much fun. Thanks for the clip a whole 27 min!
What I liked is that her team continued to encourage her. Never concentrating on mistakes and always giving cues to counterattack. After a defeat it is always frustrating and it is very common to say I could have done this or that. But he always insisted "you did everything we had practiced". Korone cried in frustration but surely if she participates again she will be in a good place.
but its also bad cause if you see in all of her match she never learn from his mistakes like keep getting her self to the corner by keep jumping and never using an anti air moves
@@gavinoelias1374 Correct, but self-criticism is the other part of the process and that only depends on her. Not from me or from you.
@@gavinoelias1374 She did learned and They did pointed out her mistakes and teaches her if you actually watched any of the practice stream. Tbh she did much better during practice and scrims then on the tourney which i put it down to nerves. She did default into back jumping when shes not thinking too much tho which i put it down to her PTSD of getting rolling attack to death by Blanka during the scrims lol
@@gavinoelias1374it's incredibly hard to adjust in the middle of a tournament match, that's something that comes from lots and lots of experience.
@@gavinoelias1374s a novice, you wouldn't even know these are mistakes. No one knows the concept of corner pressure, footsies and all that at the start. Remember, these are beginners in their first tournament match. There's no reason to expect mid game adaptations from them. That's what the coaches are for.
1st an indee fighting game based on vtubers gets released and is very successful
Now a vtuber clips channel posts fighting matches
What a decade to live in as a fan of both communities
You missed the part were FGC players played such game and give it really good reviews.
Was an avid FGC watcher and player during SF3 and SF4 days. I fell off during SFV: watching wasn't as enjoyable and no one I knew played it unlike SF4 and UMVC3. Now I can't believe vtubers are bringing me back in with SF6
@@ddranimestyle to be fair, sf6 is actually worth watching which helps :P
To be fair, Korone's been playing SFV before Idol Showdown came out
I dont what happened between now and the tourney but Korone must have been so nervous. She wasnt playing anything like what she was during the weeks in the lead up. But still this girl went in there using CLASSIC controls against other newbies who were all going with modern and still held her own. Wonder if this is the last we shall see of Korone and SFVI or if she will stick with it on the back end and continue to train to get better
I don’t know for sure, but I can say this… I watched Korone and the team as they spectated the grand finals, and after witnessing Daigo’s incredible comeback against Fuudo’s nearly unstoppable Dhalsim someone in chat translated Korone as saying “I want to learn Ken now.” 😊
Yea I think she was too nervous. She wasn't playing as aggressive as she did in scrims/practice, most of the time being too passive and just waiting for opponents to make their moves. Her controls to cast skills and counters were also better during the scrims.
Tournament nerves. If you can ever think back to your first few Ranked matches, imagine those nerves 10-fold.
@@m.hunterstevie2081Daigo was sick this tournament holy shit man
That's just how tournament nerves goes, especially when you're playing for a team and you feel the weight of your wins and losses even more. If she used her supers, level 2 especially, she definitely could've closed out those close games. Despite her obvious nerves, she kept it close.
You can tell She's so nervous at early fights, dropping combos and spilling her spaghetti but she gets her grooves on later on, such a great match.
And to think, Korone only got into Street Fighter a few months ago. She's made good progress. Also JP's theme playing in her first fight was hype.
Great showing from korone! Even if the nerves got to her, she performed really well for her first tourney!
I mean even with her nerves she forced 3 game 3s and all of them went through the wire it could had gone neither way she should fell proud for her performance.
she honestly did a fantastic job for her first tournament, many just go flat out 0-2 so testament to her skills
@@kinglightning5256Right, even a split second of difference from her or her opponent in some of those game 3’s could have led to a completely different outcome. She has nothing to feel bad about.
@@bisineyeah my first tournament was 0-2 and not even close lmfao. I don’t think I won a round.
@@kinglightning5256 It could have gone either* way.
thank you for translating literally a half an hour's worth of stuff for us - That was a really good watch
She had a great team supporting her. I had a blast watching her have so much fun throughout this journey.
Everyone was so supportive! I love it!
korone and botan both did great.
I think Botan is the most surprising. In short time she fought well a against well trained Classic JP. I think if she were'nt busy and started training from day one, she might beat everyone on her card lol.
Botan & Almond Usada are diamond gemstones.
Awesome job from Korone even facing higher ranked opponents. Notice how everyone she faced was using modern controls? At this level of play modern makes a huge difference, especially since there's less things you need to focus on. She did super well!
Nothing against the other players here, but Korone was easily the player with the most potential here. If they had more time to teach her movement in neutral, she'd have bodied them all. For a new player the mental strain of classic vs modern controls is a lot. Even without godlike coaches, she could actually become a solid FG player.
She worked so hard 🥹
What a good doggo ☺
She was doing great but tournament nerves really got to her. She was always running away to the corner where she always got pressured and died. Hope she sticks with sf6 and the crazy raccoon continues to do this. One of the best fighting game events I've watched.
I tuned in just in time for the K4sen match, it was really exhilarating to watch her zone in and play. You could tell she was super nervous but she really held her own! I'm super proud of her
I love Karubi's voice, and she seems like a great person. Also, I'm very proud of our doggo.
Despite what Nanai said, I think Korone was playing a LOT better during scrims/training, so, unfortunately, I think nerves really got to her. I think if she managed to stay calm (which isn't easy on your first tournament, so I don't blame her!), she could've beat the Deejay and quite handily so (Blanka maybe not, cause she still has a lot of trouble against the character).
Even the best JP player will struggle against rushdown as he is a ranged fighter still she did really well for someone with as little time in street fighter six as she has that said she picked one hell of a coach to show her the ropes so abit more training and a spot at Evo isn't out of the question
She definitely could've beat beaten those two, but I'm proud of her regardless because it was really close. She only use a super once (and once on accident) and missed out on a lot of damage to close out games because of nerves. It happens. It just reminds me of my first tournament when I'm happy I went 1-2 and not 0-2.
She was playing better, but I also think Deejay also read her a lot better this time too.
Yes. Korone plugged up many of her defensive gaps from the scrims, but her offense got a lot worse. I think she panicked too much and was struggling to adjust and make decisions on the fly.
Being indecisive made her passive and more predictable and she was more on auto pilot, mindlessly retreating, attempting jump kicks with poor timing, often in succession. She whiffed lots of jump kicks where delaying the kick would have lead to a hit and combo.
Her lack of Drive Impact to get out of pressure made a massive difference.
The pressure from afar was weaker because of opting to retreat more and her ranged mixups were at times more predictable. I think she was overusing the low attack because its input is easier. This was an adjustment she made because of the nerves. When you're really nervous, you can get shaky hands which makes stick movements really hard.
Especially noticeable was the lack of ranged grabs and teleporting.
She did amazing. So proud of her.
Her teammates were so supportive.
Thanks a lot for the long vid.
This was a joy to watch, seeing the beginners take on each other with pros as their teachers in this tourney format was crazy good. I do think Korone was implementing her game plan pretty well but noticed the nerves got to her when playing, it's not anything bad its just the amount of eyes on you under performance when in a tournament setting is def gonna make you anxious. Botan did well for a complete newbie as well too! I do hope more new tourneys like this keep coming
And she is on 1.99M
I was practically screaming at these matches.. incredible content
Thank you!
Really want her to win at least two matches.
Love the team vibe. They're so great!
Fun tournament to watch all the way from scrim days to the main event!! Great seeing all the teams vibe in their group and some of them made new friends too! Korone's team after party event was full of great team moments
It was a real delight watching the real life Idol Showdown between Korone and Botan live, haha.
Korone really put up a great fight throughout even if the results didn't go her way in the other matches due to tournament nerves.
That first match had me on the edge and that first match vs Blanka in the first game was phenomenal, impeccable play. Looking her playing like that somehow makes you feel so...proud? Like a combination of happiness and proud, it's amazing and awesome. Also that match against Botan was so epic lol Watching both of my fav girls battling it's very epic.
Good job doggo, I'm sad I couldn't follow all her SF arc but I will when I have time! (Also will follow Botan SF arc).
23:53 SO CUTEEEEE!!! 🥹