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@Ralph Joberth Magbujos if you’re the leader of the companion and turn into a vampire they don’t care. However, if you already turned into a werewolf for the second time and turned into a vampire, then you cannot go back to being a werewolf for the 3rd time. Unless you are using mods.
Love that you can lie about being married. "Uhhhh... No, I'm totally not lonely, I have a whole big family, but they're all deathly allergic to vampires, so you can never ever see or hear from them, but they're real. I'm NOT a loser!"
Funny how you need a Mod to have other companions talk to you but serana is just one companion in a dlc that actually feels.. alive and not just stock diolauge
Again with her not being marriable lol I'm glad she can't be married, I think it's the only interesting character in the game. I cannot imagine Serana chillin' at my home and when I get back she just says "Back from another adventure I bet" or something like that lmao
@@elkevinski She doesn't have to be a normal wife either. Maybe make her agree on conditions like take her with you always independently of other followers. Or not even agree to a ceremony because of her issues with deities but form a different kind of bond not necessarily weaker. Remaining platonic is perfectly acceptable but having more options is always preferred for role-play reasons.
She doesn't want to be married because she saw how her parents turned out, they used to love each other like a normal family, then they became so fucked up that Serana was locked underground, Valerica fled to the Soul Cairn and Harkon cared more about the elder scroll his daughter was carrying than he did about her. Harkon's lust for power drove them apart, he wasn't satisfied with just being a rich mortal, or even a lesser vampire, he wanted to be of the purest possible blood, sacrificed his wife and daughter to Molag Bal, who abused and tormented them for what could've been an eternity in his own realm, he broke them down into nothing because that's what he aims to do with everyone, and I mean that would likely make anyone physically repulsed by the thought of intimate physical contact and at that moment there was no way in hell they would ever be a functional family again, the immortality didn't help much either. Serana refusing to be in a relationship with the dragonborn has nothing to do with her own feelings towards them, but because she's had a lot of traumatic experiences, and because she's aware that people can change drastically over time, not always for the better, her own parents had changed even more drastically the entire time she was locked underground in a shitty temple. And, I mean, my Dragonborn already made some pretty and evil selfish choices, and would honestly rather finish what Miraak started and conquer all of Solstheim to spread the influence of Hermaeus Mora than be some kind of goody two-shoes who delivers weapons to court stewards, and I already terrorize innocent people for fun with the Wabbajack, the only thing I won't do is kill Paarthurnax, but my dragonborn is honestly more of a danger to everyone in Skyrim than any of the dragons are.
@@basedbattledroid3507 Man serana's Simps won't comprehend your comment at all... They'll keep crying over a fictional character and will keep blaming Bethesda but oh well Nice analysis btw
If Skyrim has taught me anything, it’s how to get a female follower to grow fond of you. All you gotta do is go on lots of adventures with them, kill lotsa enemies, never make small talk or speak to her directly for days, and ask personal questions after meeting her vampire father and finding out she was offered up to the devil as a sexual sacrifice alongside her mother for immortality. Shit is foolproof.
everyone talks about Serena in this DLC but the shit that always gets me is the fact your character is addressed as an actual human being by others, when has any other NPC asked the dragonborn if they're lonely?
All the other NPCs are too busy dressing down the player. Well, I suppose Erik the Slayer is the one exception, as he's just really glad to be on an actual adventure.
@@EE-si4np yeah? Strangers I meet on the street do that too but none of them actually give a fuck, not one of those heartless bastards would care enough to ask how I am and actually mean it. They don’t ask if I get lonely, and they don’t tell me they get lonely. A mf skyrim character was the first girl to ever actually care about me and she doesn’t fucking exist. Thankfully I met my wife, but still.
How dragonborn can be lonely, when he is a leader of every skyrim guild? xD And also can get marries and have kids. And he is a thane for few skyrim cities. He can basically go anywhere and be greeted with honours
@@apputaiparambil the dragonborn is the player character, he is how you play him. I would be kinda scare by that revelation if i where you and would just noticed hes a sociopath, but smth tells me you won’t care…
@@georgemurdock7670 no it doesn't matter how u play, it's impossible to win without killing anything..look at some of the quests with those options in them. These deadric quests...when hero of kvatch or nerevarine did it was somehow integrated into the story so it made sense but for dragonborn he wants it cause he can.. ebony blade, ebony mail, and why do you have to kill miraak, surely you could have had some other options, no u had to kill him and gain his Knowledge and do tell me why does thief guild is essential and why you have the urge to find as many black books once neloth opens up quest. Because born with dragon blood, dragonborn is the most ambitious and ruthless protagonist in elderscrolls series. Yes u can play the game, as not doing many things above but that's not the way it's intended as you will find your character underpowered.
@@thething9617 while you can make far more substantial conversations with companions in Vegas, overall companions in fallout 4 are much more alive in terms of reacting to your actions.
Bethesda: *Makes a powerful, well written and interesting companion who you bond with* Players: She's perfect! Can we marry her? Bethesda: No! You can marry one of the more boring characters!
Better off with a lusty Argonian maid or a cunning Khajiit merchant. They won't care why you run around all day with a 4,000 year old vampire woman... Or why your beautiful Nord steward is always naked around the house.
I get what she had to go threw to become what she is but it still is insane to me how the one character we grow attachment to and care about we can never have a relationship with after all we do together. Even after she's cured and after all the counseling consoling you offer her and give each other she still says no. I understand her only true experience with relationships was with her mother and father's marriage on top of the sacrifice it took to be a daughter of coldharbour, but why didn't Bethesda make any other interesting and in depth male or female NPC companions in this style or even near the same level as her in their other DLCs and give you the opportunity to marry?
Now I'm not sure about starfield being that it's gonna be a whole new IP but I am looking forward to seeing if Bethesda continues to improve apon it's companions(assuming it makes sense to have them in that game)
@@briancatoni7000 well considering it went from no companions to in fallout 3 them being basically throw away wastes of space, to them being useful but generally flat in Skyrim to them being actual characters in fallout 4 i can see it progressing in that constant new direction where they stay as well rounded useful and interesting characters
I always loved that part. I remember, when she started asking this question, I actually paused for five second and just realized "oh wait, I never thought about this aspect of my character..." and I genuinely opened a document on my phone and started really pondering what my character's backstory would be and what would they answer or if they'd lie about it to Serana. This got me into thinking more about my character when playing Skyrim xD I wish there were more dialogues like that where it deepens the other character but also deepens YOUR character!
I think that’s a cool concept. Also certain actions/missions you complete could give you different conversation lines, etc. I also discovered this by accident when I was doing a practice run before taking live recording and I was very intrigued by it.
That sort of thing (where an NPC asks YOU personal questions instead of the other way around) is sorely lacking in RPGs in general. It's very refreshing when it happens.
The fact that you didn't do it beforehand just goes to show that there is no expectation of depth when you play any TES game beyond maybe morrowind, and let's face it while that game has by far the best writing it's still not exactly the best out there.
@@TheThingInMySink Agreed with that. It's a shame that the RPG side of Elder Scrolls has been left behind over the years. Really a shame as the lore is extremely interesting but the game offers little to no opportunity nor does it encourage roleplaying a character. Skyrim kinda is more just an adventure sandbox game I suppose. I think no one is really expecting Dragon Age Origins level of writing and dialogue options but I do think the game could have some more small lines asking the player about their character's thoughts or backstory from time to time.
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I love Serana in that she's one of the few characters in any RPG that actually takes an interest in your character's backstory, in turn giving the player the chance to flesh out their own character. Makes the friendship feel more genuine. With most RPG characters, you spend endless time getting to know them and their story, without them ever caring one bit about your own :')
My impression of this video : *Serana has "rare" dialogue options* *Dragonborn traps and corners Serana, then holds a lit torch 2 inches away from her face* Dragonborn : "You will tell me everything, vampire!"
It’s bittersweet, almost. If you pay attention, you notice the Last Dragonborn doesn’t actually have any friends. They have people with a positive disposition, sure, but…they’re not really friends. Until Serana. She’s the only one that actually gets to know them and bond with them. The only one that understands how lonely they are.
Wrong. Faendal is the Last Dragonborn's true friend. He's been with him since the beginning. He offered him the keys to his house when the Dragonborn wasn't even famous yet, but a fugitive of the Empire. He teached him all he knew about marksmanship _for free._ He even offered to be his loyal steward when the Dragonborn built his manor! At least that was MY Faendal. I'm tearing a bit, don't mind me. Afterall he was always agreeable enough, I suppose, for an elf companion.
Serana is easily the most well-written character in Skyrim. One of the only NPCs that I actually appreciated just talking to to under her character. The fact that they made someone who understands the feeling of being so different as to be completely alone made her the perfect companion for the Dragonborn, and you can really tell that by how she talks to you. The fact that she's an unmarriable NPC was the worst possible decision they could have done.
I especially like the fact that she seems so human, and asks the dragon born if he’s lonely. I’ve never even thought about it in any of my play-throughs but I don’t think the dragon born truly ever “bonds” with someone. It just never feels organic, even if you get married. Serana truly cares about how you feel, and in a way that’s one of the most unique experiences in Skyrim, where it seems like most everyone is set to the mentality of bottling it up and acting stoic.
With how many times we say to each other “I’d rather be here with you” and “I’m glad I met you” and stuff like that I’m really surprised you can’t marry her. Truly tragic.
Serana Dialogue Edit (not the Addon), adds in tons of lines of dialogue, and turns her into a fallout 4esque follower, where she has likes and dislikes, and opens up a branch of dialogue for romance and marriage if you're into that.
@@Tattletale-Delta That mod is a must-have... If you wanna ruin Serana and turn her into a teen-like edgy vampire. And Serana herself explains why she doesn't wanna get married. Molag Bal did some uhh... nasty stuff to her
@@Tattletale-Delta marriage? I thought the author of the edit didn't want that as an option so she turns you down like she does in vanilla just with different words.
wouldn't really say its rare dialogue, more like it unlocks once you've spoken and gotten to know serana more, in turn she learns more about you, basically like a real person you chat during moments and know more and more, I like to offer support and encourage her through the DLC, makes the ending when facing Harkon when she goes "you will not touch him/her" more meaningful :)
There's a mod that extends dialogue for her. It adds marriage and over 1000 new voice lines for every situation. Example: doing main story she'll comment on you first dragon kill after you unlock fus, asks if you're ok. It literally takes an already bondable character and basically Inigos her character
I don’t know much about Inigo but I heard he is a character mod and people like him a lot. The mod sounds really cool, I’ll see if I can try it out one day, sounds really dope.
The day I figured out that they share a voice actress was a very happy day for me. I was watching a compilation of Kira cutscenes on TH-cam and something she said set off alarm bells in my head lol
Aww, I feel happy that she feels less lonely when she's with Dragonborn :') "Does it bother you that I'm here?" "I'm glad you're with me." "Me too." Awww 😊
I never picked that option before, namely because others had popped up for me. In my most recent play through, I’m glad I picked that option; it adds a bit of coolness and depth to the Dragonborn while also showing he cares for Serana
It's nice seeing love for Serana. When I was doing the Dawnguard DLC I saw so many people hating on her and calling her bland/useless eye candy. Although I admit she is a pretty character, I never understood how they'd think that.
@@garticus4426 True enough other npc followers are just... Basically that mindless drones you point they go kill hardly any conversation put a amulet of mara on after doing 1 freaking quest for em they'll marry you without question.... If this is love in Elderscrolls... How.. How are they all still able to keep it together?
I hereby give you the title of skyrim legend, by right of my almost 2000 hours played in skyrim. After so many time you are one of the last people to find another new thing and make it public. And not anything, but a new thing about the best and favorite follower of the game of most players.
It’s small but even if it doesn’t go anywhere I love when RPG’s let you write your own backstory. Back with KOTOR2 was my first introduction to it and it’s nice they do that here too.
dragonborn: ahh yeah, i have people in my life! I'm married! (lie) Who do you think I am? (laughs nervously) Serana: oh thats to bad, i like you more than a friend... :( dragonborn: welp there goes my chance...
I wouldn’t say she’s the ONLY one. Miraak from Dragonborn has a lot more depth when you look into the history of his character. In fact, it brings our conflict with him into a completely new light… his motivation for defeating us is sympathetic and (for me at least) makes you completely understand his situation, unfortunately for Miraak, his power hungry and tyrannical nature makes him unworthy of freedom from Hermaeus Mora in my book.
@@DigitalRRS yes but it's mostly written and talked about through 3rd parties rather then him. Serena was a follower The depth comes through her rather then lore or someone who knows
@@SPACEHARICE So? He is the main villain, and that's a common way to hype up the villain without actually seeing them. It's depth nontheless. There's also Paarthurnax who was an equally amazing character, and others like Balgruuf and Kodlak White Mane are good also.
Serana really is a fantastic character. Am replaying skyrim now a lot older and was amazed by how generally fleshed out her dilemma is and how she came to realize that both parents were using her, not only her father. And how she came to terms with killing her own father with the "he died a long time ago" thing was a nice touch.
Such a special character in this game. Absolutely love her, don’t care that she’s kind of weak as a companion. That’s not why you keep her around anyway. Beautiful voice and comments about hating pretty much every place you go to is why you keep her around.
Lmao, what game are you playing? Serana is one of the strongest companions in the game, I needed her help on various occasions and she saved my ass with her ice bolts and conjuration spells.
Don't expect too much from Bethesda. You literally meet one of the last living Snow Elves and as far as I remember you really don't have that much of a conversation with him. Probably that's why we'll never get to speak with a Dwemer again. Bethesda probably wouldn't know how to write him.
@@elkevinski yeah he’s literally just like “kill my brother” and “o fuck good job” and lets you enchant some arrows like they couldn’t have made him less memorable if they tried and he was a KEY PART OF THAT QUEST 😭
@@elkevinski you can meet a dwemer in morrowind and talk with him and he is probably the only remaining dwemer since it's pretty likely they just zero summed themselves
Serana: The only character in skyrim with extensive follower dialogue, part of a larger, more important quest, essential, and her relationship with you even shows noticeable change depending on her affinity towards you. Bethesda: "Can't romance. Quest-related NPC spaghetti code go brrrrr"
What Bethesda thought we wanted in the Anniversary edition: mods, stupid craftables and fishing mini-games. What we really wanted: An update that finally lets us romance her.
I would love to romance but not marry her since she isn't into marrying. I mean, you could do something outside of Mara's blessing and just be both friends and lovers.
what dialogues did you pick, and did you travel a lot with her? also does it matter what you say inside castle volkihar when you enter for the first time?
Not that rare for me. You just have to talk to her a lot (I am the kind of player who seeks for all possible dialogues from a character during a gameplay).
Dragonborn: Yeah I'm lonely too just like you Serana. I don't like to rely on others. Meanwhile at the Dragonborn's Lakeview Manor: All his homies, Farkas, Vilkas, Argis, Valdimar, Cicero, Hadvar and all his badass chicks, Lydia, Jordis, Sylgia, Aela and Mjoll partying, waiting for their Dragonborn friend to return and join them. Dragonborn: Yeah nah I'm so lonely Serana, really!
Serana asking the DB if he has someone is totaly implying that she is interested in him! To make her refuse marrying him is a straight up dick move by bethesda. Luckily, there are mods to fix it.
There is also another special dialogue, if you tell her, that you killed your parents. She mention it after you get Auriel's bow, that both of our parents have failed us.
She was hands down my favorite companion and I kept her supplied with the best stuff and it wasn’t even for any advantage. I just really cared about her well being. Bethesda can make you care about a clump of pixels when they really want to I guess
Thanks for the video. Gotta say, I'm actually glad you can't marry Serana. This conclusion would be "too good" for this game. Her personality is so much different from other NPCs, that sometimes I actually considered her as the second protagonist (her immortality kinda reminds me "reincarnation" of the main hero: Nerevar in tes3, or Dragonborn in tes5). And finally, she reminds me an old Friend of mein really much. We used to be in really good relations, but could not be together. She had a long and painful story with her parents, which never loved her, and this background completely forshadowed her life. Being abandoned by the closest human beings in the world, she already could not let anyone into her life. Sometimes I think that Serana's storyline is written from her life with 100% accuracy, excluding only vampirism.
Sucks that the one female character that has the most personality and interesting backstory and would seem to be the best wife is not a marriage candidate. Bethesda why?
Bethesda: Makes a compelling and endearing character with the most realistic chemistry with the player. Also Bethesda: Doesn't make her a marriable npc.
She stated herself because of molag bal raping her to death and forcing her to become a vampire and daughter of coldharbour that she doesnt want to marry, but i understand your point at the very least.
Serana is probably one of the few characters in TES as a whole (not counting online because I've never played it) who actually made me feel anything besides ''haha funny''. It amazes me how TES main stories can be so shitty while their DLC's are actually pretty decent. It's like whenever they write a main story they have a bunch of set in stone criteria that needs to be filled, world threatening event? Check, character starts as prisnoer? Check, character is chosen one? Check, and through these criteria you end up with the same washed up tropey main story that has literally 0 tension, and generates little intrest once you've actually finished it. Then there's the DLC's where it seems the writers are finally let out of their cages and can freely come up with interesting ideas, compare the dull, unintresting and predictable main story of Fallout 4 to Far Harbour, or Oblivion's main story to the Shivering Isles, or Dawnguard and Dragonborn to the absolute train wreck of Skyrim's main story, and you'll see what I mean. Even Morrowinds main story is honestly the least cool part of the game, although it's still better than anything that came after just by the virtue of having Dagoth Ur in it.
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Not that long ago this video had maybe 500 views. Now it’s 20k +
Edit 2: woweee, 100k :o never had a video that would get this many views, this is so cool :)
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@Ralph Joberth Magbujos if you’re the leader of the companion and turn into a vampire they don’t care. However, if you already turned into a werewolf for the second time and turned into a vampire, then you cannot go back to being a werewolf for the 3rd time. Unless you are using mods.
Now its 47K :D
@@victor_734 yeah! Now a little more, I never had a video that had this many views before. I feel like a popular person!
@@zephyr_ damn 63K now this is growing fast
Love that you can lie about being married. "Uhhhh... No, I'm totally not lonely, I have a whole big family, but they're all deathly allergic to vampires, so you can never ever see or hear from them, but they're real. I'm NOT a loser!"
Haha
You don't know my family... they go another school!
@@LS-jv9hp I have a wife - she goes to the College of Winterhold though...
Y o u d o n t k n o w h e r I m e t h e r a t c a m p
@@vulpesinculta3238
Damn, better be careful man, don't want some chode coming up and tryna shack up with her
Funny how you need a Mod to have other companions talk to you but serana is just one companion in a dlc that actually feels.. alive and not just stock diolauge
I agree with this.
Ironic that she's the only one that feels alive considering.. you know, that she's a vampire and all lol
This is just one of the reasons Serana is EVERYONES follower
@@brunogigliotti4216 not only that but she kicks ass on top of ass
@@mikehawk-ch8bq Facts
Who would've thought Bethesda had this character with all these options in place but they didnt make her marriable in the end. Luckily mods
Again with her not being marriable lol
I'm glad she can't be married, I think it's the only interesting character in the game. I cannot imagine Serana chillin' at my home and when I get back she just says "Back from another adventure I bet" or something like that lmao
@@elkevinski She doesn't have to be a normal wife either. Maybe make her agree on conditions like take her with you always independently of other followers. Or not even agree to a ceremony because of her issues with deities but form a different kind of bond not necessarily weaker. Remaining platonic is perfectly acceptable but having more options is always preferred for role-play reasons.
She was originally supposed to be marriable, but Bethesda never finished that part of the DLC
She doesn't want to be married because she saw how her parents turned out, they used to love each other like a normal family, then they became so fucked up that Serana was locked underground, Valerica fled to the Soul Cairn and Harkon cared more about the elder scroll his daughter was carrying than he did about her.
Harkon's lust for power drove them apart, he wasn't satisfied with just being a rich mortal, or even a lesser vampire, he wanted to be of the purest possible blood, sacrificed his wife and daughter to Molag Bal, who abused and tormented them for what could've been an eternity in his own realm, he broke them down into nothing because that's what he aims to do with everyone, and I mean that would likely make anyone physically repulsed by the thought of intimate physical contact and at that moment there was no way in hell they would ever be a functional family again, the immortality didn't help much either.
Serana refusing to be in a relationship with the dragonborn has nothing to do with her own feelings towards them, but because she's had a lot of traumatic experiences, and because she's aware that people can change drastically over time, not always for the better, her own parents had changed even more drastically the entire time she was locked underground in a shitty temple.
And, I mean, my Dragonborn already made some pretty and evil selfish choices, and would honestly rather finish what Miraak started and conquer all of Solstheim to spread the influence of Hermaeus Mora than be some kind of goody two-shoes who delivers weapons to court stewards, and I already terrorize innocent people for fun with the Wabbajack, the only thing I won't do is kill Paarthurnax, but my dragonborn is honestly more of a danger to everyone in Skyrim than any of the dragons are.
@@basedbattledroid3507 Man serana's Simps won't comprehend your comment at all...
They'll keep crying over a fictional character and will keep blaming Bethesda but oh well
Nice analysis btw
If Skyrim has taught me anything, it’s how to get a female follower to grow fond of you. All you gotta do is go on lots of adventures with them, kill lotsa enemies, never make small talk or speak to her directly for days, and ask personal questions after meeting her vampire father and finding out she was offered up to the devil as a sexual sacrifice alongside her mother for immortality. Shit is foolproof.
Yeah, I do that all the time. It works.
I second it.
I thought all you had to do was wear an Amulet of Mara and everyone, both men and women, will immediately want to become your spouse?
@@Azrael79a well sure...I mean, if you want to do it the easy way.
@@Azrael79a An Amulet of Mara? You’re looking for marriage then?
I just loved talking to her during this DLC, it felt so unique
Same, she felt like the most fleshed out and worked on NPC. She has many dialogue lines even outside of the DLC.
Mi problema es que si le preguntamos una pregunta no la podemos convertir en humana de nuevo
@@zephyr_ Bethesda knew how to do things at this point and combined with Laura Bailey's voice. Bam
@@shotme666 O sea todos hablan en Inglés y vos salís hablando en español porque sí XD
@@elkevinski se llama godmode xd
I haven't had the "I must marry Serana or I'll die" feeling in a long time. Thanks for bringing that back up.
"I try not to rely on people" Ysolda disliked that.
:)
everyone talks about Serena in this DLC but the shit that always gets me is the fact your character is addressed as an actual human being by others, when has any other NPC asked the dragonborn if they're lonely?
All the other NPCs are too busy dressing down the player. Well, I suppose Erik the Slayer is the one exception, as he's just really glad to be on an actual adventure.
During the Forsworn quest in Markarth, there is a character that asks you about your family.
@@EE-si4np yeah? Strangers I meet on the street do that too but none of them actually give a fuck, not one of those heartless bastards would care enough to ask how I am and actually mean it. They don’t ask if I get lonely, and they don’t tell me they get lonely. A mf skyrim character was the first girl to ever actually care about me and she doesn’t fucking exist. Thankfully I met my wife, but still.
And only 2 people asked about your name, yet every Hired Thug and Dark Brotherhood know that somehow
Edit: 3 times, I forgot about Jarl of Falkreath
@@indrickboreale7381 its not the hired thug that knows its the one who hired them that somehow knows i accidently picked there flower
I love that Serana is the only person in all Skyrim that understands how lonely the Dragonborn is
So this why the dragonborn adopts 15 kids… shame serana aint marriage able in the vanilla game tho. Would fix boths loneliness
How dragonborn can be lonely, when he is a leader of every skyrim guild? xD And also can get marries and have kids. And he is a thane for few skyrim cities. He can basically go anywhere and be greeted with honours
@@georgemurdock7670 they can never be together. She has too much PTSD and dragonborn is a borderline sociopath
@@apputaiparambil the dragonborn is the player character, he is how you play him. I would be kinda scare by that revelation if i where you and would just noticed hes a sociopath, but smth tells me you won’t care…
@@georgemurdock7670 no it doesn't matter how u play, it's impossible to win without killing anything..look at some of the quests with those options in them. These deadric quests...when hero of kvatch or nerevarine did it was somehow integrated into the story so it made sense but for dragonborn he wants it cause he can.. ebony blade, ebony mail, and why do you have to kill miraak, surely you could have had some other options, no u had to kill him and gain his Knowledge and do tell me why does thief guild is essential and why you have the urge to find as many black books once neloth opens up quest.
Because born with dragon blood, dragonborn is the most ambitious and ruthless protagonist in elderscrolls series. Yes u can play the game, as not doing many things above but that's not the way it's intended as you will find your character underpowered.
This was the precursor of the fallout 4 followers having real personality
Edit: I hadn't played the earlier games when I made this comment
Meanwhile at Obsidian:
*Laughs in Fallout New Vegas*
@@thething9617 When I finally got Veronica a dress I felt so accomplished
@@thething9617 while you can make far more substantial conversations with companions in Vegas, overall companions in fallout 4 are much more alive in terms of reacting to your actions.
@@naughtynoo-noo2818 that's... so preposterously false.
Bethesda: *Makes a powerful, well written and interesting companion who you bond with*
Players: She's perfect! Can we marry her?
Bethesda: No! You can marry one of the more boring characters!
Mods hihihi
She was supposed to be. There's still voice files for her marriage dialogue but never got finished
Better off with a lusty Argonian maid or a cunning Khajiit merchant. They won't care why you run around all day with a 4,000 year old vampire woman... Or why your beautiful Nord steward is always naked around the house.
You know how they say: We go out to look at what we cant bang, and then we come home to bang what we cant look at....
I get what she had to go threw to become what she is but it still is insane to me how the one character we grow attachment to and care about we can never have a relationship with after all we do together. Even after she's cured and after all the counseling consoling you offer her and give each other she still says no. I understand her only true experience with relationships was with her mother and father's marriage on top of the sacrifice it took to be a daughter of coldharbour, but why didn't Bethesda make any other interesting and in depth male or female NPC companions in this style or even near the same level as her in their other DLCs and give you the opportunity to marry?
Skyrim Players: "I love Seranna, she's actually a character!"
Fallout 4: *Takes notes and does companions right.*
Now I'm not sure about starfield being that it's gonna be a whole new IP but I am looking forward to seeing if Bethesda continues to improve apon it's companions(assuming it makes sense to have them in that game)
@@briancatoni7000 well considering it went from no companions to in fallout 3 them being basically throw away wastes of space, to them being useful but generally flat in Skyrim to them being actual characters in fallout 4 i can see it progressing in that constant new direction where they stay as well rounded useful and interesting characters
@@NostalgiaVivec dont talk about fakes and dog meat that way :(
Edit: I meant fawkes but I will bear the fact I made a mistake for all to see
Another settlement needs your help
@@thekommunistkrusader3921 you can marry dogmeat?
0:57 I love how Bethesda gives you the option to lie about being married 😂
Cheeky :)
"I'm *totally* married, what makes you think otherwise?"
I always take too long to get married so I can feel less bad about the hagraven in Wyrmstooth
I’m DEFINITELY married, you see this ring, it’s a wedding ring
Serana: you pulled that out of a trash can last week
Serana: ''But we've been to every single one of your houses''
DB: ''Well you see, they are In the realm of Oblivion''
I always loved that part. I remember, when she started asking this question, I actually paused for five second and just realized "oh wait, I never thought about this aspect of my character..." and I genuinely opened a document on my phone and started really pondering what my character's backstory would be and what would they answer or if they'd lie about it to Serana. This got me into thinking more about my character when playing Skyrim xD I wish there were more dialogues like that where it deepens the other character but also deepens YOUR character!
I think that’s a cool concept. Also certain actions/missions you complete could give you different conversation lines, etc.
I also discovered this by accident when I was doing a practice run before taking live recording and I was very intrigued by it.
in other words it should be more like assassins creed in a way.
That sort of thing (where an NPC asks YOU personal questions instead of the other way around) is sorely lacking in RPGs in general. It's very refreshing when it happens.
The fact that you didn't do it beforehand just goes to show that there is no expectation of depth when you play any TES game beyond maybe morrowind, and let's face it while that game has by far the best writing it's still not exactly the best out there.
@@TheThingInMySink Agreed with that. It's a shame that the RPG side of Elder Scrolls has been left behind over the years. Really a shame as the lore is extremely interesting but the game offers little to no opportunity nor does it encourage roleplaying a character. Skyrim kinda is more just an adventure sandbox game I suppose. I think no one is really expecting Dragon Age Origins level of writing and dialogue options but I do think the game could have some more small lines asking the player about their character's thoughts or backstory from time to time.
After many moons he gives a sign of life. Glad to see you haven't forgotten us buddy
Hello, I always check comments on TH-cam daily, though on some occassions my phone has not displayed them or TH-cam alogirthm marked as spam.
As per my update video, I am being kept quite busy working on many things, but having said that, I try to put a game walkthrough out there once in a while :)
"Does it bother you that I'm here?"
Me: *Doorstep stuck bc She need to raise that dead chicken to fight for us PTSD noises*
Lmfao
She probably mistook it for a Cuccoo
I love Serana in that she's one of the few characters in any RPG that actually takes an interest in your character's backstory, in turn giving the player the chance to flesh out their own character. Makes the friendship feel more genuine. With most RPG characters, you spend endless time getting to know them and their story, without them ever caring one bit about your own :')
could we see her in TES6? i mean she's immortal
I would be happy to see that.
I think we are the ones who need to become immortal if we actually want to still be alive when it relases...
@@johnnymcgeez5647 omg I loled so hard, you sir deserve the best comment award
@@johnnymcgeez5647 calling it now es6 releases in 2025 or 2075
@@anemptyspace thank you :)
lol Serana's GTA San Andreas animations are killing me
ah shit... here we go again
Ah shit, here we go again
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN CJ
Kept you waiting huh ?
@@Pablo-mb1fz What took you so long?
I like how u chose not to mod her appearance. She's perfect the way she is!
As long as it does not turn her into a barbie, some mods are actually acceptable. Natural People's Serana is really nice
@@DavidGarcia29497 Skyrim faces look like PS1 games
@@DavidGarcia29497 Dashing Dawngard Followers has a nice Serana too, very Vanilla+
i always hated those mods, it makes all the girls of skyrim look like lifeless china dolls
It's hard to find mods that keep her sharp and serious look.
My impression of this video :
*Serana has "rare" dialogue options*
*Dragonborn traps and corners Serana, then holds a lit torch 2 inches away from her face*
Dragonborn : "You will tell me everything, vampire!"
Haha :)
wait is there a guide on how to get these dialogue options , I've looked a little but it's just people on PC playing with console commands @@zephyr_
Serana is by far the best NPC in Skyrim. She is also very pretty which makes it even more worth it to have her as a follower. :)
hands down she is the best cause she is immortal smart funny witty and you can fus ro dah her off the throat of the world without killing her XD
Crap I keep forgetting this is a role playing game
I’m not sure I understand? :)
@@zephyr_ I think they mean to answer same stuff because they have same experiences IRL like being lonely.
Ahh, I see, got it
@@zephyr_ Either what the other guy said or he meant a dating sim.
it's not, it's an action game. morrowind and even oblivion have a better argument to call themselves an rpg than does skyrim
Skyrim finally becoming a dating sim with atleast one well written follower.
how much you wanna bet that the writing for her was outsourced lmao
@@allanredhill8682 it wasent.
It’s bittersweet, almost. If you pay attention, you notice the Last Dragonborn doesn’t actually have any friends. They have people with a positive disposition, sure, but…they’re not really friends. Until Serana. She’s the only one that actually gets to know them and bond with them. The only one that understands how lonely they are.
Wrong. Faendal is the Last Dragonborn's true friend. He's been with him since the beginning. He offered him the keys to his house when the Dragonborn wasn't even famous yet, but a fugitive of the Empire. He teached him all he knew about marksmanship _for free._ He even offered to be his loyal steward when the Dragonborn built his manor!
At least that was MY Faendal. I'm tearing a bit, don't mind me. Afterall he was always agreeable enough, I suppose, for an elf companion.
@Icouldntcomeupwithaname1212🤣🤣🤣 he’s such a good homie fr he even let us cuck him💀
Serana is easily the most well-written character in Skyrim. One of the only NPCs that I actually appreciated just talking to to under her character. The fact that they made someone who understands the feeling of being so different as to be completely alone made her the perfect companion for the Dragonborn, and you can really tell that by how she talks to you. The fact that she's an unmarriable NPC was the worst possible decision they could have done.
I especially like the fact that she seems so human, and asks the dragon born if he’s lonely. I’ve never even thought about it in any of my play-throughs but I don’t think the dragon born truly ever “bonds” with someone. It just never feels organic, even if you get married. Serana truly cares about how you feel, and in a way that’s one of the most unique experiences in Skyrim, where it seems like most everyone is set to the mentality of bottling it up and acting stoic.
With how many times we say to each other “I’d rather be here with you” and “I’m glad I met you” and stuff like that I’m really surprised you can’t marry her. Truly tragic.
Serana definitely acts more in touch with the character, I love that. Feels like fallout 4 companions
Stuff like this makes me believe the reason Serana isn't marriageable, is because of dead lines.
Serana Dialogue Edit (not the Addon), adds in tons of lines of dialogue, and turns her into a fallout 4esque follower, where she has likes and dislikes, and opens up a branch of dialogue for romance and marriage if you're into that.
@@Tattletale-Delta I'm well aware, I have it installed in my game.
@@Tattletale-Delta Can you use dialogue edit and dialogue add-on together?
@@Tattletale-Delta That mod is a must-have...
If you wanna ruin Serana and turn her into a teen-like edgy vampire.
And Serana herself explains why she doesn't wanna get married. Molag Bal did some uhh... nasty stuff to her
@@Tattletale-Delta marriage? I thought the author of the edit didn't want that as an option so she turns you down like she does in vanilla just with different words.
I think she only wanted to be cured of vampirism in my playthrough because she was tired of second hand burn via dawnbreaker
😭
I think the only way is if you tell her "look at what it did to your family", if we're being serious lol
She is literally the reason why I get into modding my skyrim
Serena is such a cool NPC because she actually feels like she appreciates the Dragonborn as a friend, not just an asset or a tool.
wouldn't really say its rare dialogue, more like it unlocks once you've spoken and gotten to know serana more, in turn she learns more about you, basically like a real person you chat during moments and know more and more, I like to offer support and encourage her through the DLC, makes the ending when facing Harkon when she goes "you will not touch him/her" more meaningful :)
There's a mod that extends dialogue for her. It adds marriage and over 1000 new voice lines for every situation. Example: doing main story she'll comment on you first dragon kill after you unlock fus, asks if you're ok. It literally takes an already bondable character and basically Inigos her character
I don’t know much about Inigo but I heard he is a character mod and people like him a lot. The mod sounds really cool, I’ll see if I can try it out one day, sounds really dope.
@@zephyr_ Inigo is arguably the best follower mod.
Unfortunately, he's not currently dlc aware so he can't interact with Serena
That's weird because my inigo and serana interacted all the time, but that must be because I have the serana dialogue extender
What's the name of the mod
@@joseevb04 I think it’s called serana dialogue overhaul
Just realized that this voice actress also voices Scout Harding in DA Inquisition
Laura Bailey. She has a tendency to voice characters you are practically required to fall in love with.
She also voices Bianca in DAI
and kait diaz
And Abbey from TLOU2..
I am obsessed with that woman.
I have a wife, but she live in hammerfell, you wil probably never see her
When I hear her voice I just hear Kira from SWTOR
The day I figured out that they share a voice actress was a very happy day for me. I was watching a compilation of Kira cutscenes on TH-cam and something she said set off alarm bells in my head lol
more quiet and subdued Rise from Persona
Heard about you and your honeyed words...
let me guess, someone stole your sweet roll?
Imagine if every follower in TESVI was as good as Serana .
Imagine TESVI. All I can think of is another Skyrim rerelease.
At the end of the day i think that we all learned that everything has its end, except for sausage.. Sausage has two ends.
Aww, I feel happy that she feels less lonely when she's with Dragonborn :')
"Does it bother you that I'm here?"
"I'm glad you're with me."
"Me too."
Awww 😊
I never picked that option before, namely because others had popped up for me. In my most recent play through, I’m glad I picked that option; it adds a bit of coolness and depth to the Dragonborn while also showing he cares for Serana
It's nice seeing love for Serana. When I was doing the Dawnguard DLC I saw so many people hating on her and calling her bland/useless eye candy. Although I admit she is a pretty character, I never understood how they'd think that.
She’s literally the most interesting character in the entire game, how could anyone call her bland????
@@garticus4426 True enough other npc followers are just... Basically that mindless drones you point they go kill hardly any conversation put a amulet of mara on after doing 1 freaking quest for em they'll marry you without question.... If this is love in Elderscrolls... How.. How are they all still able to keep it together?
I hereby give you the title of skyrim legend, by right of my almost 2000 hours played in skyrim. After so many time you are one of the last people to find another new thing and make it public. And not anything, but a new thing about the best and favorite follower of the game of most players.
Thanks haha, I am proud of this title :D
2000? Impressive i have over 10,000
I live the serana dialogue extender, it adds so much depth into her charecter.
It’s small but even if it doesn’t go anywhere I love when RPG’s let you write your own backstory. Back with KOTOR2 was my first introduction to it and it’s nice they do that here too.
Eventually the loneliness stops, when you've been lonely for a long time, you learn to stop caring.
That's fucking sad.
Sad as hell.
"I'm very attracted to you, but it's crucial that you never escape the friend zone."
dragonborn: ahh yeah, i have people in my life! I'm married! (lie) Who do you think I am? (laughs nervously)
Serana: oh thats to bad, i like you more than a friend... :(
dragonborn: welp there goes my chance...
Serana : I like you as a brother.
@@paulpoumet773 a brother with benefits :)
@@paulpoumet773 Alabama intensifies
"I think I turned out okay."
*Puts hands on back and prominently displays chest*
she's literally the only character in the ENTIRE GAME with depth because a whole Dlc had her in mind
I wouldn’t say she’s the ONLY one.
Miraak from Dragonborn has a lot more depth when you look into the history of his character. In fact, it brings our conflict with him into a completely new light… his motivation for defeating us is sympathetic and (for me at least) makes you completely understand his situation, unfortunately for Miraak, his power hungry and tyrannical nature makes him unworthy of freedom from Hermaeus Mora in my book.
@@DigitalRRS yes but it's mostly written and talked about through 3rd parties rather then him.
Serena was a follower
The depth comes through her rather then lore or someone who knows
@@SPACEHARICE So? He is the main villain, and that's a common way to hype up the villain without actually seeing them.
It's depth nontheless. There's also Paarthurnax who was an equally amazing character, and others like Balgruuf and Kodlak White Mane are good also.
Serana really is a fantastic character. Am replaying skyrim now a lot older and was amazed by how generally fleshed out her dilemma is and how she came to realize that both parents were using her, not only her father. And how she came to terms with killing her own father with the "he died a long time ago" thing was a nice touch.
Such a special character in this game. Absolutely love her, don’t care that she’s kind of weak as a companion. That’s not why you keep her around anyway. Beautiful voice and comments about hating pretty much every place you go to is why you keep her around.
There's a mod for that. Serana Powered Up. Best to activate it before meeting her in the playthrough
She’s weak as a companion? I always thought she was one of the best, her spells are very powerful
@@garticus4426 right! Her conjuration rocks specially if you can do summons too!
Lmao, what game are you playing? Serana is one of the strongest companions in the game, I needed her help on various occasions and she saved my ass with her ice bolts and conjuration spells.
0:18
Fralia Gray-Mane: I hope your parents are proud of you. They have a lot of reason to be.
Serana was okay, but I would've like more dialogue with Gelebor.
Don't expect too much from Bethesda.
You literally meet one of the last living Snow Elves and as far as I remember you really don't have that much of a conversation with him.
Probably that's why we'll never get to speak with a Dwemer again. Bethesda probably wouldn't know how to write him.
@@elkevinski yeah he’s literally just like “kill my brother” and “o fuck good job” and lets you enchant some arrows like they couldn’t have made him less memorable if they tried and he was a KEY PART OF THAT QUEST 😭
@@elkevinski you can meet a dwemer in morrowind and talk with him and he is probably the only remaining dwemer since it's pretty likely they just zero summed themselves
I am glad that you are with me, Samwise Gamgi
Serana: The only character in skyrim with extensive follower dialogue, part of a larger, more important quest, essential, and her relationship with you even shows noticeable change depending on her affinity towards you.
Bethesda: "Can't romance. Quest-related NPC spaghetti code go brrrrr"
Of every character in Skyrim Serana was my favourite because she was the only person that felt real...
One of the only followers that actually feels like a real developed character with a history and strong traits that define them.
What Bethesda thought we wanted in the Anniversary edition: mods, stupid craftables and fishing mini-games.
What we really wanted: An update that finally lets us romance her.
Now they give us Survival with.... Fishing....... Damn it Todd!
I would love to romance but not marry her since she isn't into marrying. I mean, you could do something outside of Mara's blessing and just be both friends and lovers.
Oh my god thank you for making this video I absolutely love Serana in this game and this is just more dialouge to enjoy
No problem, I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
This is your greatest biggest masterpiece ever seen powerful and moving 🌹💝🌹
Thank you, I am glad to hear you like it, by the way, do you mean this video or the Dawnguard walkthrough?
@@zephyr_ this video super cool 😎 🆒😎 likely
Dawnguard is also cool I like all your videos but this video was really moving and touching it the voice was soothing
Awesome and I agree, Serana’s voice actress - Laura Bailey - did an amazing job with this.
@@zephyr_ she did an amazing perfect job with her voices I wish I could meet her in person
I got this dialogues a couple days ago and it was really touching
I agree
any idea for a sure way to get it?
The fact that this is a rare dialogue and I got it every playthrough is just 💀
what dialogues did you pick, and did you travel a lot with her? also does it matter what you say inside castle volkihar when you enter for the first time?
Cool video!! I didn't knew this dialogue existed because the 2 times i cleared the questilne i selected "my parents are good people" option!
No surprise there, this dialogue is not on the Skyrim wiki page either.
Yet she still won't marry you...
Yep, but what can you do :)
mods my man, mods
After what she went through, I don’t blame her man
She’s overrated anyway
Do you NEED to marry her to have a close relationship? It's a role playing game after all
Serana. The only one that doesn’t feel like an NPC. 😂
she actually walks around and does stuff that’s why 😭
Not that rare for me. You just have to talk to her a lot (I am the kind of player who seeks for all possible dialogues from a character during a gameplay).
I’m not sure I trust you.
@@zephyr_ Trust M'aiq, but don't trust the "Liar", because M'aiq never lies.
Zephyr is tired now, go bother somebody else.
Is it bad that I read that comment in M'aiq's voice?
@@Hadalium M'aiq does not have an opinion on the matter
The only time the Dragonborn verbally simps for Serana
Dragonborn: Yeah I'm lonely too just like you Serana. I don't like to rely on others.
Meanwhile at the Dragonborn's Lakeview Manor: All his homies, Farkas, Vilkas, Argis, Valdimar, Cicero, Hadvar and all his badass chicks, Lydia, Jordis, Sylgia, Aela and Mjoll partying, waiting for their Dragonborn friend to return and join them.
Dragonborn: Yeah nah I'm so lonely Serana, really!
Her voice is goddess like.
I'm still mad we can't marry her.
You and me both dude. But, there is mods, so...
Her personality sounds a lot like Kira from Star Wars the Old Republic. I think its the same voice actress too
And yet Todd still wouldn't let us marry her... Blessed be the mod makers
She literally referenced every Skyrim player 💀
Would've been cool if Bethesda decided throw in more dialogue options to roleplay DB's backstory
"does it bother you I'm here?"
damn
Serana asking the DB if he has someone is totaly implying that she is interested in him! To make her refuse marrying him is a straight up dick move by bethesda. Luckily, there are mods to fix it.
I agree with that.
oh my god thank you so much i love you i’m subscribing i can’t believe it worked
There is also another special dialogue, if you tell her, that you killed your parents. She mention it after you get Auriel's bow, that both of our parents have failed us.
Oh nice, I didn’t know that
Year 6 of me wondering "Why can't I marry Serana?"
year 8
She was hands down my favorite companion and I kept her supplied with the best stuff and it wasn’t even for any advantage. I just really cared about her well being. Bethesda can make you care about a clump of pixels when they really want to I guess
Lets be honest serana is goals
The masterful work of voice acting legend Laura Bailey Willingham.
I think there was a plan for a romance subplot but it was cut
I suspect the same.
I think there was a leak about it
Voiced by the wonderful Laura Bailey.
Thanks for the video. Gotta say, I'm actually glad you can't marry Serana. This conclusion would be "too good" for this game. Her personality is so much different from other NPCs, that sometimes I actually considered her as the second protagonist (her immortality kinda reminds me "reincarnation" of the main hero: Nerevar in tes3, or Dragonborn in tes5). And finally, she reminds me an old Friend of mein really much. We used to be in really good relations, but could not be together. She had a long and painful story with her parents, which never loved her, and this background completely forshadowed her life. Being abandoned by the closest human beings in the world, she already could not let anyone into her life. Sometimes I think that Serana's storyline is written from her life with 100% accuracy, excluding only vampirism.
She would be the perfect waifu.Why did you do this to me, bethesda?
They really included all this dialogue just to make her unmarriable, cruel af
Tell me about it.
I got this dialogue for the first time earlier today i had never heard it before
That’s awesome! Did you know that this dialogue does not even appear in Skyrim wiki?
Sucks that the one female character that has the most personality and interesting backstory and would seem to be the best wife is not a marriage candidate. Bethesda why?
Because fuck you that’s why-betsheda probably
@@Darh1407 sounds accurate
She may be a vampire but she definitely has that important bit of humanity in her
Given how much she suffered that's pretty normal
Bethesda: Makes a compelling and endearing character with the most realistic chemistry with the player.
Also Bethesda: Doesn't make her a marriable npc.
She stated herself because of molag bal raping her to death and forcing her to become a vampire and daughter of coldharbour that she doesnt want to marry, but i understand your point at the very least.
Also Bethesda: Makes the Dragonborn a friendzoned simplord
Serana without vampire eyes is weird.
Once she's cured her eyes are weird.
Serana is probably one of the few characters in TES as a whole (not counting online because I've never played it) who actually made me feel anything besides ''haha funny''. It amazes me how TES main stories can be so shitty while their DLC's are actually pretty decent. It's like whenever they write a main story they have a bunch of set in stone criteria that needs to be filled, world threatening event? Check, character starts as prisnoer? Check, character is chosen one? Check, and through these criteria you end up with the same washed up tropey main story that has literally 0 tension, and generates little intrest once you've actually finished it.
Then there's the DLC's where it seems the writers are finally let out of their cages and can freely come up with interesting ideas, compare the dull, unintresting and predictable main story of Fallout 4 to Far Harbour, or Oblivion's main story to the Shivering Isles, or Dawnguard and Dragonborn to the absolute train wreck of Skyrim's main story, and you'll see what I mean. Even Morrowinds main story is honestly the least cool part of the game, although it's still better than anything that came after just by the virtue of having Dagoth Ur in it.
I got the same dialog in a random crypt, talk to her 3nough and she'll spit it out I think.
That’s interesting. I tried searching for what exactly triggers this conversation but never been able to pin point 100%.
Guys I have to be honest with you. I barely talked to Serana so 92% of her dialogue is rare to me.
then you will enjoy her backstory all the more once you do talk to her more :)
Bethesda did everything possible to set up a relationship between the character and serena then made her unmarriable😂
That’s rare? I thought everybody knew that
All the walkthroughs I tried to watch did not have this dialogue, and there are only handful of videos on YT with this dialogue.
@@zephyr_ Damn… guess a lot of Skyrim players are R€t@RD€D
@@zephyr_in my current game I activated this dialogue while 'we' were in Valerica's garden