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I think a really good fit for the Veemon Mega here would be Dynasmon, he has the white and Blue theme going, has the giant hands from Manticoremon and he even has these crystals in the palms of his hands where the maws of Manticoremon used to be. And he would even keep the Royal Knights connection that is so ingrained into the Veemon line.
Especially when you take into account the "holy" element of the digiegg and remember that seven angels are supposed to play trumpets as a sign of revelation in the Bible. It kinda just works.
Manbomon honestly looks more like a Reliability Armor or even a Kindness Armor to me (cause of the red boxing gloves). Another fun video. Certainly excited to see the Light Armor Fixes video wherever it comes out.
I wouldn't worry about the Quetzalcoatl pronunciation. Even in some anime where Quetzalcoatl is a character, its name is pronounced differently and usually shortened to a nickname. And yes, your pics for Coatlmon and Nefertimon are my favorites. Keeping the Egyptian theme for Nefertimon and trying to keep the Aztec theme for Coatlmon. Hopefully Bandai at some point makes more serpentine Digimon.
They may not all be based on Egyptian mythology, but they are all based on mythological creatures from various cultures around the world, which is a trait that further cements the connection between the armor forms of light and hope.
@Karn_EX Manbomon is based on the ocean sunfish, which is either revered or viewed as an ill omen in several nations of Oceania. In Japan specifically, sunfish used to be valued highly enough that they were used as an acceptable form of currency to pay taxes to the shogunate. Idk if you are a Legend of Zelda fan, but the game Link’s Awakening also has a sunfish character named Manbo who is quite respected in the game.
@@Karn_EX The Polynesian legend about the sunfish says that it is the king of all mackerel, and if fishermen killed one, then all other mackerel in the area would leave, and they would be cursed with empty fishing nets and no food to bring home.
I still hate the fact that gatomon was just depowered when the digidex clearly states that if a gatomon loses its tail ring it turns into a black gatomon. It doesn’t say if it looses it bc it fell from grace or nothing it just says lose it like it can fall off sometimes. Lol
The more I think about it, the more I think Seahomon & Manbomon are repurposed reliability armours that were originally rejected. Something about Seahomon makes me think it was originally either made for Hawkmon or Patamon.
really thought Patamon was gonna through you a curve ball but damn good job on the digiline, some of my favourite light lines. cant wait for the custom art versions
One thing I love about this series, and forming evolution lines for Digimon in general, is that it really gives you an appreciation for Digimon you (the royal you, not Karn specifically) didn't previously like. Karn was up front that he just doesn't like Mambomon as a Light Armor evolution, but then he found a few routes that give it some context and and conclusion, and now I appreciate Mambomon a little more. I subscribe to a subreddit that offers evolution line challenges for everyone to join in on, and one of them was to give an evolution line to a Rookie you don't like. As much as I get why everyone appreciates it, my least favorite Rookie is Espimon. So I gave it some thought and put it up against some higher level Digimon I really like, and I sort of inducted it into the D-Brigade by giving it a line of either Sealsdramon or Mekanorimon into Gigadramon into Brigadedramon. And against all odds, it really did make me appreciate Espimon a little bit more because now I can see all the little connections that lead it into a group of Digimon I really like. I think that's a really interesting aspect of Digimon that not a lot of franchises have! I also have to say, I _really_ like Manticoremon into SlashAngemon. I love the idea of Manticoremon being a violent beast employed by holy Digimon to turn against evil, and i especially love the idea of this violent, aggressive soldier finding the light, being redeemed, and becoming a more composed and rational, but no less powerful soldier for the forces of good, and SlashAngemon is a rare Mega that feels more like a soldier than a leader. I like that even at its highest level, it's still taking orders and being responsible.
I personally like all these choices but the manticoremon I usually give him the Dynasmon as mega it seems similar keeps the dragon nature and has the white colors with being a darker royal knight but still a royal knight so works for the power that be
I'm still baffled at how random and nonsensical Patamon's non-Hope Armor Evolutions are... it's as if they left him for last, ran out of time and decided to just slap whatever they scrapped for the other partners on him.
It's said Coe-aht-uhl, by the way. 3 syllables, doesnt sound like "coat". You said the first part right tho, the quetzal part, good job. Dont blame anyone for struggling with it tho it's a weird word. I only have it ingrained in memory because i had a *very* brief stint when i was younger where i was obsessed with them
I wonder if the theme of light was more like mythical beasts? Quetzalcóatl, Gargoyles, Sphinx, Seahorses in japanese myth are related to dragons.... Doesnt explain punching fish mon but im sure there's a hint in the name
I really like Dijiangmon as a Gargoylemon/Manticoremon evo. It loses the "light" element, but that's really the fault of whoever made Veemon turn into a demon restrained in bondage. Because Seahomon is said to have a nebulous connection to Seadramon-species digimon, I'd pick MetalSeadramon for the Mega since it's silver and gold and has a canon snout. To bridge them, there's another digimon besides Seahomon with ornate silver and gold armor who is somewhat holy and related to Armadillomon....Shakkoumon.
Love your Digivolution line videos! They're what inspired me to start writing my own fanfiction-I love coming up with lines and figuring out what kind of story they tell.
Ngl the Seahomon line made me laugh out loud. Kinda hyped for the Love video (rip Manbomon, you will be missed), the concept of Egyptian mythology could be really fun on something like Armadillomon. Also thoughts on maybe doing a Destiny digi-egg custom art if you reach 100k? GoldVeedramon deserves a proper makeup
It seems that the Light armor evolutions have a basis in religion in general. Not necessarily gods/goddesses but things that are related to it in some manor.
5:35 I've really taken to the idea of Eldoradimon as a ShogunGekomon Mega. I think it works extra well for Armadillomon given the shell on it and Ankylomon.
Man these are all some solid lines. Hard to pick a favorite. I do get where you are coming from with Harpymon. Between the general look and being a light armor, that line makes sense. Something else I considered for Harpymon once was Arkhai Angemon. It has the white, gold, and red colors, plus it's an angel so that continuing from light is good. At that point... maybe Dominimon? Clavis Angemon keeps the colors so that could work too. Something I really like though for this light armor concept: Xiangpengmon, which evolves from Arkhai Angemon on the Vital Bracelet BE. Plus, it's an aquatic holy bird, which works for Hawkmon and the bizarre aquatic element this digi egg uses.
That Seahomon line feels simultaneously really random and entirely perfectly cohesive and fitting. I feel like I shouldn't like it but I love it! Armadillomon to Cernumon really works and Cernumon fits as a light themed somewhat holy digimon.
Some time last year, I requested an artist on DA to assemble a digivolution line for me... Salamon - Gatomon - Nefertimon - Rasielmon So Gatomon remains a Champ and Nefertimon takes the spot as the Ultimate... with Rasielmon being the Mega. And lemme tell you... BOY do these two look good together!
Gargoylemon to manticoremon is an awesome choice but I was thinking maybe beelzemon for the mega, you get that angel factor while still keeping some of the darker side of the line, also nailed it with that harpiemon line I was expecting hippogryphamon for the ultimate I was definitely not expecting that
Hawkmon and Veemon shall forever be in my head canon. One thing I was thinking with Gatomon going from cat to dog etc that the Armadillomon evo switching cultures isn’t the craziest thing. You did your best and I think it works in that ‘let’s make the Mega’ cool kinda way (looking at you Ravemon).
I wonder if the Light armor's weird connection with sea life is supossed to link back to Kairi's connection with the Dark Ocean? Probably not, but it feels nice enough to my headcanon going forwards
Something I always thought as a revamp is if Harmon was rookie nefertimon was the champion and then Angawomon was the ultimate (choose one of the megas or even lovely Angemon) I feel it fits great. Anyway love the vids diva
5:44-6:34 Envisioned that Idea with The Other 02 Partners with Their DNA Partners’ Digi-Eggs and to me… …The Ones with Awesome Digivo Lines are Harpymon✨, Swanmon❤️, & Shadramon☀️
Yeah, it’s kinda difficult to find something that works for Manbomon. I really do like the idea of Pukumon as fisticuff fishies is a fun concept. I would think Mamemon as a fun idea as I call Pukumon Marine or Sea Mamemon. Especially since Mamemon is one of Patamon’s Ultimates in DW2. Some people like Sandiramon into Mervamon, but I’m iffy on that. Tlalocmon is classified as a Mineral Digimon, but those options are not very attractive with the new Proganomon being the best pick.
I have this idea where every stage in a Digimon's evolution line can wear the Armor, and the resulting power level depends on which stage does the Armor evolution. Let me give you an example using a custom Patamon line: Patamon Armor evolves into a weaker Champion level Pegasmon Unimon Armor evolves into a Champion level Pegasmon that's stronger than Unimon with extra abilities Tyilinmon Armor evolves into a Perfect level Pegasmon that's stronger than Tyilinmon with extra abilities Sleipmon Armor Evolves into a Mega level Pegasmon that's stronger than Sleipmon with extra abilities and could mayyybe be considered a Level 7? Basically, at each stage the Digimon can wear the Armor, and the resulting Digimon will simply differ in size and power depending on which Digimon is currently inside the Armor.
Kinda unrelated but I think raptorsparrowmon needs more in its line. It just stops there before going into either jetmervamon or shoutmon, which are not like true evolutions.
What’s also interesting is that while nefertimon references Egyptian sphinx; the Greek ones were know primarily to have the face and bust of a woman which a winged lions body so while the design harkens to Egypt the feminine sphinx has its roots in Greek myth; meaning that Nefertimon is more akin to a digimon of myth itself whereas its counterparts is specifically constellations
I think Petaldramon could be a good bridge between Coatlmon and Tlalocmon. Snake grows four limbs and the green fur mane explodes into a forest of greenery, setting up for Tlalocmon to have arms and legs and all that vegetation sprouting from his back. 🤔
I really do love each pick here. I'm just gonna humbly share my own opinions on some evolution lines. While I do love the Hawkmon's line, I would like to explore without reusing evolutions so it would go from Harpymon, to Griffomon, to Valdurmon. And a nice homage to Data Squad would be Wormmon, to Coatlmon, to Lilamon, to Lotusmon(I know, wormmon is male, yadda yadda.... But he's so "kind", and so quiet as Stingmon, it could be a "secret").
The normal champions in 02 weren't stronger than the armors other than Angemon. However the kids were excited for a new evolution (+ toy sales) AND it very quickly gave way to the DNA evos so that's why they use them.
Koh-AH-tull Also, I think the megaphone-snout on Seahomon is meant to evoke the trumpet of Archangel Gabriel, the herald of God in certain Abrahamic religious beliefs. So you might look at different angels and archangels like Michael and Raphael for inspiration, try to kind of find Digimon that have something in common with them. I think the vibe is just religion or holiness in general. Egyptian iconography is heavily focused on their gods and pharaohs, who are like gods made physical, Quetzalcoatl is an Aztec god obviously, Seahomon's got something like Gabriel's trumpet. It's just weird how they don't commit to it with different religions, like having a Shinto-inspired evolution, a Hindu-inspired evolution, and a Buddhist-inspired evolution. Instead half of them just vaguely hint at the vibe with their colors or certain physical traits and Mambomon is just a non-sequitur, unless you interpret it as a sunfish. Sun, sunlight, it still doesn't fit, but I guess you could stretch it like that.
Tbh considering that Raidramon/Lighdramon was, at the time, the only Armor evo capable of dealing significant damage to MetalGreymon when Agumon was under the Digimon Emperor’s control I’m of the opinion that Armor Digimon, when used in a standard evolution line, can serve as Champion or Ultimate as needed, one example is that I like to use Lynxmon as an Ultimate to bridge Liomon and Marsmon There is also that audio drama I remember hearing about somewhere where Davis uses the Digiegg of Hope while TK uses the Digiegg of Light and Veemon and Patamon become Sagittarimon and Mambomon respectively and proceed to effortlessly go toe to toe with a Mega level, with Sagittarimon being able to deal significant damage to said Mega and Mambomon taking a direct hit from that Mega even flinching, so make of that what you will
Coatlmon a good Ultimate for it is GrandGalemon keeps the wings and Aztec theme, plus the green from the whole line The whole Pteromon line has a clear jungle tribal aesthetic going on
Honestly, probably wouldn't be a big deal leveling some up beyond mega if you see it fit, that way you're not trying to limit yourself to fit a 7 in a 6 role
I feel like I like most picks... Armadillomon could have maybe ended at Suijinmon? Heavy armor, the horns turn to cannons, keep's ShogunGekomon's red scheme. Still "religious" because the 'Jin' in the end of Fuujin,Raijin and Suijin stands for "God". But yeah, Patamon's is just... ugh. Manbomon is such a fish out of water (pun very much intended). I think there's a line here where it's MarinDevimon and then Cthyllamon that could work if it was explicitly for the *light* crest on the *hope* digimon. Maybe MarinChimeramon to Neptunemon? Ending on a romon god-inspired creature seems to be on brand, but gapping the Ultimate level is just impossible
I use Suuijinmon for Tonosamagekomon. Its red and a japanese water God and the trumpets become the gigantic mugendramon cannons. Being a God connects it to light too.
Manbomon digivolves into Hikari's stalker cause why not? XD Really can't wait for when you get around to improving the armors of Hope & Light for obvious reasons.
As a Mexican I gotta say your pronunciation of Quatzalcoatl wasn't that bad, there's room for improvement but you were on the right path. Gatomon was my favorite lineup but Armadillomon, I love how all over the place it is!! Only in Digimon could you ever have this make sense.
@Karn_EX that's probably it. If they knew it would be a while before they got to the Champion level, and that that stage would be deemphasized for the 02 series as a whole. Still, if it were me I'd have seen the upside in making another mascot.
see if it werent for manbomon and seahomon, id see a very solid "mythology" theme here, but on googling, neither the mola or the seahorse (not to be confused with mythological sea horses, hippocampus) have any particularly notable myths attached to them
I think instead of SlashAngemon, you can go with Dominimon, as gargoyles tend to be put in places to intimidate and guard, the mega being Dominimon feels appropriate for that.
Really loved the video i really like the use of Bastemon i whish there was a more proper Egyptian cat digimon to use mayeb a not not ancient sphinxmon that is more holy and queen like. Theres also just a lot you can do with Egyptian digimon Maybe Ozymandimon based off the great pharaoh called the king of kings and is another name fro ramsesus the 2 who attributed to building a lot of great things in Egypt amd if im remembering tight is rhe pharaoh from the Bible who deals with the ten plagues. Another is Nitomon based on the Egyptian pharaoh queen Nitocris who when her brothers wwre murdered took revenge in drowning they're killers and rhen took her own life Just a bunch if cool things tha could be done Stuff like Silver Snimon which is rival and counterpart to GoldKuwagamon get another cool bug digimon. Love the content cant wait for been watching you since the lockdown of 2020 can't wait for more
Love's got more of an Egyptian theme than Light does, since it has Halsemon/Horusmon and Sethmon/Setmon (though it's only 2:1, so it's not a huge difference). Light's theme seems to be about mythological/holy creatures (sphinx, harpy, gargoyle, and Quetzlcoatl are known to me; Seahomon getting huge at surface level seems like something that's based on a myth I'm unfamiliar with, but I've got no real clue about Manbomon)
Besides like maybe one or two, it feels like some guy got the armor evolution assignment, and thought the timeline was to just have veemons ready, not the whole group 😂 cause his are so good
I think my only hang up with these choices is Bastemon from Nefertimon. Bastemon is said in the reference book to be rivals with Nefertimon, in my opinion clearly calling back to Angewomon and LadyDevimon. So having Bastemon in the evolution line just feels a bit off.
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I think a really good fit for the Veemon Mega here would be Dynasmon, he has the white and Blue theme going, has the giant hands from Manticoremon and he even has these crystals in the palms of his hands where the maws of Manticoremon used to be. And he would even keep the Royal Knights connection that is so ingrained into the Veemon line.
Yeah Dynasmon is good too :)
This is actually my favorite line for Dynasmon currently
Man I just suggested beelzemon thinking that was a great idea and then I scrolled down and read this 😂
Seahomon's line being more focused on the horn instruments is honestly really cool and might be my favorite
Thank you!
Especially when you take into account the "holy" element of the digiegg and remember that seven angels are supposed to play trumpets as a sign of revelation in the Bible. It kinda just works.
Manbomon honestly looks more like a Reliability Armor or even a Kindness Armor to me (cause of the red boxing gloves).
Another fun video. Certainly excited to see the Light Armor Fixes video wherever it comes out.
I TOTALLY agree!
And thanks so much!
I wouldn't worry about the Quetzalcoatl pronunciation. Even in some anime where Quetzalcoatl is a character, its name is pronounced differently and usually shortened to a nickname.
And yes, your pics for Coatlmon and Nefertimon are my favorites. Keeping the Egyptian theme for Nefertimon and trying to keep the Aztec theme for Coatlmon. Hopefully Bandai at some point makes more serpentine Digimon.
In the book of revelations it speaks of the horns of heaven sounding on judgement day that could be the throughline for the horns/trumpets
Hmm yeah good idea!
And this has lightened my Sunday evening
Ayyyyy
They may not all be based on Egyptian mythology, but they are all based on mythological creatures from various cultures around the world, which is a trait that further cements the connection between the armor forms of light and hope.
What about Manbomon?
@Karn_EX Manbomon is based on the ocean sunfish, which is either revered or viewed as an ill omen in several nations of Oceania. In Japan specifically, sunfish used to be valued highly enough that they were used as an acceptable form of currency to pay taxes to the shogunate. Idk if you are a Legend of Zelda fan, but the game Link’s Awakening also has a sunfish character named Manbo who is quite respected in the game.
@@Karn_EX The Polynesian legend about the sunfish says that it is the king of all mackerel, and if fishermen killed one, then all other mackerel in the area would leave, and they would be cursed with empty fishing nets and no food to bring home.
I still hate the fact that gatomon was just depowered when the digidex clearly states that if a gatomon loses its tail ring it turns into a black gatomon. It doesn’t say if it looses it bc it fell from grace or nothing it just says lose it like it can fall off sometimes.
Lol
Maybe she was weakened after losing it because she had to spend a lot of her energy on not turning into a BlackGatomon.
WTF is the digidex?
@@TheTakato122The Pokédex, but for digimon.
The more I think about it, the more I think Seahomon & Manbomon are repurposed reliability armours that were originally rejected. Something about Seahomon makes me think it was originally either made for Hawkmon or Patamon.
You could justify the Armadillomon like it becoming aquatic then going to mamalian with Shogungeckomon being the in-between sense its amphibious
Looking forward to the light armor fixes. Especially what you'll do with Patamon, if you're keeping the trend of having it and Nefertimon match
really thought Patamon was gonna through you a curve ball but damn good job on the digiline, some of my favourite light lines. cant wait for the custom art versions
One thing I love about this series, and forming evolution lines for Digimon in general, is that it really gives you an appreciation for Digimon you (the royal you, not Karn specifically) didn't previously like. Karn was up front that he just doesn't like Mambomon as a Light Armor evolution, but then he found a few routes that give it some context and and conclusion, and now I appreciate Mambomon a little more. I subscribe to a subreddit that offers evolution line challenges for everyone to join in on, and one of them was to give an evolution line to a Rookie you don't like. As much as I get why everyone appreciates it, my least favorite Rookie is Espimon. So I gave it some thought and put it up against some higher level Digimon I really like, and I sort of inducted it into the D-Brigade by giving it a line of either Sealsdramon or Mekanorimon into Gigadramon into Brigadedramon. And against all odds, it really did make me appreciate Espimon a little bit more because now I can see all the little connections that lead it into a group of Digimon I really like. I think that's a really interesting aspect of Digimon that not a lot of franchises have!
I also have to say, I _really_ like Manticoremon into SlashAngemon. I love the idea of Manticoremon being a violent beast employed by holy Digimon to turn against evil, and i especially love the idea of this violent, aggressive soldier finding the light, being redeemed, and becoming a more composed and rational, but no less powerful soldier for the forces of good, and SlashAngemon is a rare Mega that feels more like a soldier than a leader. I like that even at its highest level, it's still taking orders and being responsible.
I forget that Harpymon exists sometimes when i love Harpies in anime. Then seeing it be used as a Pre for my favorite of the DNAs just makes me happy.
I personally like all these choices but the manticoremon I usually give him the Dynasmon as mega it seems similar keeps the dragon nature and has the white colors with being a darker royal knight but still a royal knight so works for the power that be
Yeah I like Dynasmon there too :)
I always loved the crest of light evolution
Great use of Bastemon here!
And yeah, weird mix on the weird month.
-Shine on crazy diamond!--
I'm still baffled at how random and nonsensical Patamon's non-Hope Armor Evolutions are... it's as if they left him for last, ran out of time and decided to just slap whatever they scrapped for the other partners on him.
Fully agree! It seems unfair haha
It's said Coe-aht-uhl, by the way. 3 syllables, doesnt sound like "coat". You said the first part right tho, the quetzal part, good job.
Dont blame anyone for struggling with it tho it's a weird word. I only have it ingrained in memory because i had a *very* brief stint when i was younger where i was obsessed with them
Manbomon is fine, just not for Patamon's light armor evolution.
It's insane how Harpymon fits very well as Silphymon's preevo.
I wonder if the theme of light was more like mythical beasts? Quetzalcóatl, Gargoyles, Sphinx, Seahorses in japanese myth are related to dragons....
Doesnt explain punching fish mon but im sure there's a hint in the name
Hmmm that's not a bad idea! It would certainly make more of them have a unifying theme. Apparently Polynesians had some superstitions around sunfish
I agree so heavily with Harpymon’s digivolution line lol literally nothing else makes more sense.
Haha glad we agree!
That Veemon line has been my personal pick for my partner Veemon since Manticoremon was released. It's too perfect.
Finally been looking forward to fixing the armors being finished
Was gonna mention Dynasmon would be a great mega for Manticoremon but I think it’s been said plenty already lol
Haha yeah
Mambo and Seahomon are truly the digimon of all time
They certainly exist 😂
Love the channel bro keep up the good work 👍
Thanks so much! Will do!
I really like Dijiangmon as a Gargoylemon/Manticoremon evo. It loses the "light" element, but that's really the fault of whoever made Veemon turn into a demon restrained in bondage.
Because Seahomon is said to have a nebulous connection to Seadramon-species digimon, I'd pick MetalSeadramon for the Mega since it's silver and gold and has a canon snout. To bridge them, there's another digimon besides Seahomon with ornate silver and gold armor who is somewhat holy and related to Armadillomon....Shakkoumon.
Love your Digivolution line videos! They're what inspired me to start writing my own fanfiction-I love coming up with lines and figuring out what kind of story they tell.
That's awesome! Thanks so much for watching!
Happy Sunday Karn EX!
Give us Light 🕯️
Now I feel enlightened!
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Ngl the Seahomon line made me laugh out loud.
Kinda hyped for the Love video (rip Manbomon, you will be missed), the concept of Egyptian mythology could be really fun on something like Armadillomon. Also thoughts on maybe doing a Destiny digi-egg custom art if you reach 100k? GoldVeedramon deserves a proper makeup
I'd be down for that for 100k! Spread the word lmao
Perfect going-back-from-work content
Yippee!
It seems that the Light armor evolutions have a basis in religion in general. Not necessarily gods/goddesses but things that are related to it in some manor.
The Hawkmon line definitely is a no-brainer. Makes a lot of sense
I just want you to know this channel heals my depression. Keep posting Karn!!!🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Oh wow, thank you so much! Means a lot I can help in any way!
It's great that we have such varied Digimon to fill in all these specific digivolutions!
The Veemon line looks excellent. Specially because I like all those digimon👍
I'm eager for the video fixing the Light armor evos.
Happy Sunday everyone!! Let's goooo 🎉🎉
5:35 I've really taken to the idea of Eldoradimon as a ShogunGekomon Mega. I think it works extra well for Armadillomon given the shell on it and Ankylomon.
Man these are all some solid lines. Hard to pick a favorite.
I do get where you are coming from with Harpymon. Between the general look and being a light armor, that line makes sense. Something else I considered for Harpymon once was Arkhai Angemon. It has the white, gold, and red colors, plus it's an angel so that continuing from light is good. At that point... maybe Dominimon? Clavis Angemon keeps the colors so that could work too. Something I really like though for this light armor concept: Xiangpengmon, which evolves from Arkhai Angemon on the Vital Bracelet BE. Plus, it's an aquatic holy bird, which works for Hawkmon and the bizarre aquatic element this digi egg uses.
Thank you! And that's a really fun pick!
The canon light armor line for Gatomon has to end with Anubismon so we can have Dog > Cat > Cat > Cat > Dog
The Dagomon Leviamon line is great. Theres evil in Mambomon I tell ya!
That Seahomon line feels simultaneously really random and entirely perfectly cohesive and fitting. I feel like I shouldn't like it but I love it! Armadillomon to Cernumon really works and Cernumon fits as a light themed somewhat holy digimon.
Some time last year, I requested an artist on DA to assemble a digivolution line for me...
Salamon - Gatomon - Nefertimon - Rasielmon
So Gatomon remains a Champ and Nefertimon takes the spot as the Ultimate... with Rasielmon being the Mega.
And lemme tell you... BOY do these two look good together!
You just blew my mind about that 8th snake head on oraichimon I thought there was only 7 since I never saw that secret black head.
That is awesome
Glad you think so!
Gargoylemon to manticoremon is an awesome choice but I was thinking maybe beelzemon for the mega, you get that angel factor while still keeping some of the darker side of the line, also nailed it with that harpiemon line I was expecting hippogryphamon for the ultimate I was definitely not expecting that
Hawkmon and Veemon shall forever be in my head canon. One thing I was thinking with Gatomon going from cat to dog etc that the Armadillomon evo switching cultures isn’t the craziest thing. You did your best and I think it works in that ‘let’s make the Mega’ cool kinda way (looking at you Ravemon).
So easy to miss it wasn’t until you pointed out I didn’t realise Orochimon has that blackened head
I really like that pick for Orochimon as the bridge. Would have been PERFECT if it had the right amount of heads but still great imo
I wonder if the Light armor's weird connection with sea life is supossed to link back to Kairi's connection with the Dark Ocean? Probably not, but it feels nice enough to my headcanon going forwards
Something I always thought as a revamp is if Harmon was rookie nefertimon was the champion and then Angawomon was the ultimate (choose one of the megas or even lovely Angemon) I feel it fits great. Anyway love the vids diva
Hope you'll have a good day
You too!
5:44-6:34 Envisioned that Idea with The Other 02 Partners with Their DNA Partners’ Digi-Eggs and to me…
…The Ones with Awesome Digivo Lines are Harpymon✨, Swanmon❤️, & Shadramon☀️
Yeah, it’s kinda difficult to find something that works for Manbomon. I really do like the idea of Pukumon as fisticuff fishies is a fun concept. I would think Mamemon as a fun idea as I call Pukumon Marine or Sea Mamemon.
Especially since Mamemon is one of Patamon’s Ultimates in DW2.
Some people like Sandiramon into Mervamon, but I’m iffy on that. Tlalocmon is classified as a Mineral Digimon, but those options are not very attractive with the new Proganomon being the best pick.
I have this idea where every stage in a Digimon's evolution line can wear the Armor, and the resulting power level depends on which stage does the Armor evolution.
Let me give you an example using a custom Patamon line:
Patamon Armor evolves into a weaker Champion level Pegasmon
Unimon Armor evolves into a Champion level Pegasmon that's stronger than Unimon with extra abilities
Tyilinmon Armor evolves into a Perfect level Pegasmon that's stronger than Tyilinmon with extra abilities
Sleipmon Armor Evolves into a Mega level Pegasmon that's stronger than Sleipmon with extra abilities and could mayyybe be considered a Level 7?
Basically, at each stage the Digimon can wear the Armor, and the resulting Digimon will simply differ in size and power depending on which Digimon is currently inside the Armor.
That's fun!
Love your videos. Here's my takes:
V-mon/Veemon
Kinda unrelated but I think raptorsparrowmon needs more in its line. It just stops there before going into either jetmervamon or shoutmon, which are not like true evolutions.
What’s also interesting is that while nefertimon references Egyptian sphinx; the Greek ones were know primarily to have the face and bust of a woman which a winged lions body so while the design harkens to Egypt the feminine sphinx has its roots in Greek myth; meaning that Nefertimon is more akin to a digimon of myth itself whereas its counterparts is specifically constellations
Orochimon also works as in a few stories orochi is heavily associated with rivers
I think Petaldramon could be a good bridge between Coatlmon and Tlalocmon. Snake grows four limbs and the green fur mane explodes into a forest of greenery, setting up for Tlalocmon to have arms and legs and all that vegetation sprouting from his back. 🤔
Ooh interesting!
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You pronounce it Ket-zal-coatl (written Quetzalcoatl), greetings from México
Bastemon makes for a great thumbnail for some reason.
I really do love each pick here. I'm just gonna humbly share my own opinions on some evolution lines. While I do love the Hawkmon's line, I would like to explore without reusing evolutions so it would go from Harpymon, to Griffomon, to Valdurmon. And a nice homage to Data Squad would be Wormmon, to Coatlmon, to Lilamon, to Lotusmon(I know, wormmon is male, yadda yadda.... But he's so "kind", and so quiet as Stingmon, it could be a "secret").
The normal champions in 02 weren't stronger than the armors other than Angemon. However the kids were excited for a new evolution (+ toy sales) AND it very quickly gave way to the DNA evos so that's why they use them.
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Also, I think the megaphone-snout on Seahomon is meant to evoke the trumpet of Archangel Gabriel, the herald of God in certain Abrahamic religious beliefs. So you might look at different angels and archangels like Michael and Raphael for inspiration, try to kind of find Digimon that have something in common with them.
I think the vibe is just religion or holiness in general. Egyptian iconography is heavily focused on their gods and pharaohs, who are like gods made physical, Quetzalcoatl is an Aztec god obviously, Seahomon's got something like Gabriel's trumpet.
It's just weird how they don't commit to it with different religions, like having a Shinto-inspired evolution, a Hindu-inspired evolution, and a Buddhist-inspired evolution. Instead half of them just vaguely hint at the vibe with their colors or certain physical traits and Mambomon is just a non-sequitur, unless you interpret it as a sunfish. Sun, sunlight, it still doesn't fit, but I guess you could stretch it like that.
Tbh considering that Raidramon/Lighdramon was, at the time, the only Armor evo capable of dealing significant damage to MetalGreymon when Agumon was under the Digimon Emperor’s control I’m of the opinion that Armor Digimon, when used in a standard evolution line, can serve as Champion or Ultimate as needed, one example is that I like to use Lynxmon as an Ultimate to bridge Liomon and Marsmon
There is also that audio drama I remember hearing about somewhere where Davis uses the Digiegg of Hope while TK uses the Digiegg of Light and Veemon and Patamon become Sagittarimon and Mambomon respectively and proceed to effortlessly go toe to toe with a Mega level, with Sagittarimon being able to deal significant damage to said Mega and Mambomon taking a direct hit from that Mega even flinching, so make of that what you will
Coatlmon a good Ultimate for it is GrandGalemon keeps the wings and Aztec theme, plus the green from the whole line
The whole Pteromon line has a clear jungle tribal aesthetic going on
I like the Gromit cameo
The armodilomon one works, cause shogungekomon does have plant material around its collar
Great video karn!! When you gonna do a cross wars series?
Thanks! Series? No idea really, but we've done some XW stuff before and will touch on them again soon :)
That was pretty good, but I think you should still do custom art for ultimates and megas for the non-02 Armor Digivolutions.
Honestly, probably wouldn't be a big deal leveling some up beyond mega if you see it fit, that way you're not trying to limit yourself to fit a 7 in a 6 role
So, I think Seahomon is a subspecies of Seadramon according to its Encyclopedia entry, so going WaruSeadramon > Leviamon would be neat.
I feel like I like most picks... Armadillomon could have maybe ended at Suijinmon? Heavy armor, the horns turn to cannons, keep's ShogunGekomon's red scheme. Still "religious" because the 'Jin' in the end of Fuujin,Raijin and Suijin stands for "God".
But yeah, Patamon's is just... ugh. Manbomon is such a fish out of water (pun very much intended). I think there's a line here where it's MarinDevimon and then Cthyllamon that could work if it was explicitly for the *light* crest on the *hope* digimon. Maybe MarinChimeramon to Neptunemon? Ending on a romon god-inspired creature seems to be on brand, but gapping the Ultimate level is just impossible
I use Suuijinmon for Tonosamagekomon. Its red and a japanese water God and the trumpets become the gigantic mugendramon cannons. Being a God connects it to light too.
I think grand galemon would be a great ultimate for coatlmon, maintaining that Aztec design philosophy through to tlalocmon
Hi Karn, great list as always!
Quetzalcoatl is supposed to be pronounced Keht-zahl-COH-ahtl
Source: I'm Mexican, trust me xD
Manbomon digivolves into Hikari's stalker cause why not? XD Really can't wait for when you get around to improving the armors of Hope & Light for obvious reasons.
in the context of a Veemon mega it's a bit weak, but Gargoylemon to Manticoremon to Dijiangmon works really well as a champion to mega line
3:25 finally, Ultra Angemon... Sort of 😂
As a Mexican I gotta say your pronunciation of Quatzalcoatl wasn't that bad, there's room for improvement but you were on the right path.
Gatomon was my favorite lineup but Armadillomon, I love how all over the place it is!! Only in Digimon could you ever have this make sense.
Still seems kinda weird they didn't just use Salamon in 02.
Agreed, I guess mascot/advertising took precedence? Gatomon being way more recognized/popular
@Karn_EX that's probably it. If they knew it would be a while before they got to the Champion level, and that that stage would be deemphasized for the 02 series as a whole. Still, if it were me I'd have seen the upside in making another mascot.
Seahomon’s horn inspiration actually might be connected to how angels are depicted with horns aka the horns of heaven
Video idea:giving tamers actual megas not biomerges . So giving Guilmon for example a evolution more like war growlemon becoming blitz greymon
Seahomon's face is most likely to reference all of the angels you see in artwork with trumpets. Heralds of god and whatnot.
Yeah I thought something like that but it actually more resembles a megaphone. Weird one.
see if it werent for manbomon and seahomon, id see a very solid "mythology" theme here, but on googling, neither the mola or the seahorse (not to be confused with mythological sea horses, hippocampus) have any particularly notable myths attached to them
The Seahomon line could lead into a trumpeter angel theme?
I think instead of SlashAngemon, you can go with Dominimon, as gargoyles tend to be put in places to intimidate and guard, the mega being Dominimon feels appropriate for that.
Really loved the video i really like the use of Bastemon i whish there was a more proper Egyptian cat digimon to use mayeb a not not ancient sphinxmon that is more holy and queen like.
Theres also just a lot you can do with Egyptian digimon
Maybe Ozymandimon based off the great pharaoh called the king of kings and is another name fro ramsesus the 2 who attributed to building a lot of great things in Egypt amd if im remembering tight is rhe pharaoh from the Bible who deals with the ten plagues.
Another is Nitomon based on the Egyptian pharaoh queen Nitocris who when her brothers wwre murdered took revenge in drowning they're killers and rhen took her own life
Just a bunch if cool things tha could be done
Stuff like Silver Snimon which is rival and counterpart to GoldKuwagamon get another cool bug digimon.
Love the content cant wait for been watching you since the lockdown of 2020 can't wait for more
5:37 can’t u use the new sangomon mega aka ryugomon. Its holly bc it protects that one palace n it purifies it
I could, just lacks any trumpet theme
Thank you Karn for making more research on Latin American culture than the whole staff behind Emilia Perez. 😅
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Love's got more of an Egyptian theme than Light does, since it has Halsemon/Horusmon and Sethmon/Setmon (though it's only 2:1, so it's not a huge difference). Light's theme seems to be about mythological/holy creatures (sphinx, harpy, gargoyle, and Quetzlcoatl are known to me; Seahomon getting huge at surface level seems like something that's based on a myth I'm unfamiliar with, but I've got no real clue about Manbomon)
No rush but I needed more fixing armor digivalutions
Besides like maybe one or two, it feels like some guy got the armor evolution assignment, and thought the timeline was to just have veemons ready, not the whole group 😂 cause his are so good
I think my only hang up with these choices is Bastemon from Nefertimon. Bastemon is said in the reference book to be rivals with Nefertimon, in my opinion clearly calling back to Angewomon and LadyDevimon. So having Bastemon in the evolution line just feels a bit off.
Could the aquatic theme relate to the Dark Ocean connection?
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