Cool video. I enjoyed the honesty of your review. I'm glad I just went with the AT4X. It's got everything I could possibly want and need. The suspension rides amazing and it has an extra inch over the regular AT4. Plus it has 33's stock.
Love the Canyon, easily best "mid size" truck made today. Your demonstration here of installation is top notch too, excellent job. That said, I think I'd rather see if I could just pay you to do it for me. 🤣
Falling in love with the channel more and more each video. I am hoping to pick up an AT4 later this year and want to do everything you've done so far (except maybe 33s instead of 34s). The way you balance the content with voiced over clips, camera facing clips and the music in the background feels perfect. its not easy to captivate an audience for a full video but this just feels easy to watch. I immediately thought of TheStoryTillNow in terms of quality but with your own spin on things. Excited to see what future content you put out and hopefully some of the outdoors stuff you mentioned. Keep up the awesome work
Just bought a 23 gmc canyon elevation and bought the CCE 2inch front 1 inch rear leveling kit so i can fit larger tires without having to trim, thanks for the video man it honestly helped alot on deciding where i wanted to go with my overlanding build it sounds like ill be going with 33’s
Spring rate doesn’t change. The rate is a static it takes x-lbs per inch of compression. There are multiple factors affecting ride none of which are your springs in this situation (you maintained factory spring rate). 1) the spacer is causing you to ride higher in the stroke of the shock, most shocks are designed to function in approximately the middle of the available stroke, that would be the designed sweet spot. 2) You’ve reduced available down travel, your shock is acting closer to its full extension stop; you hit a bump and rather than the suspension being able to extend down into the bump, the whole truck basically falls into the bump. 3) your assessment on completing the rear improving the ride due to weight distribution is partially correct; you have set the weight distribution closer to design intent also, you’ve returned the geometry of the front closer to stock relative to ground angle of attack). Nice looking truck!
Hey man, appreciate the video. Isn’t much out there to compare with the truck being so new. I ended up doing your set up with a different tire and love it! I added pictures of my truck to level up suspensions page in the reviews and also on custom offsets if anyone would like to see it. Sterling Metallic color.
Hello there, Nice At4 lookss good. Im thinking about buying an at4 in 2025 in sterling silver. Do you think there would be tire rub with the lift kit you installed without carving out some plastic? How do you find the ride compared to stock now that you've had it for a while? And would you uae the same parts all around again? Thanks brother. Bert
Love the build, enjoyed both video's, building a 2024 AT4 running Nitto 35's on the stock wheels with the additional factory 1 1/2" lift, only rubs a smidge when I turn all the way right, took care of it with a file.
Lookin good! I bought a 2024 black Canyon AT4. I ordered Black Rhino Barricade wheels (gunblack with beadlock ring) 17x8.5 and 0mm offset. And Nitto Recon Grappler 285/75/17 And doing a 1.5" level upfront only..For now... We will see how she does. Might have to run 285/70/17. But..I'm being told by others that this works with no rubbing on the 285/75 tires. The 285/70/17 look like SUV tires to me and not "truck tires". So hoping this will be fine. Keep up the content!
How do you like those nitto recon grappler tires? Thinking about replacing my stick Goodyear territory m/t tires on my 2024 zr2. I also like the nitto recon grappler and ridge grapplers but I also like the MT baja boss A/Ttires. Foe new wheels i like methods,fuel ir black rhinos. Might buy them in gold or bronze color as my truck is that harvest bronze metallic color.
Great video! The leaf spring holes can be off needing some twisting like you mentioned if only one side is being lifted(worked on at a time).With both sides up and wheels off the spring holes should be level. 🤙🏼
We need more content… just picked up a new 2024 GMC AT4 and want to get 33.5” tires too.. im going to go with +1 offset to see if I can avoid rubbing.. i think Ive watched your 2 videos like 20x haha. Love your channel.
Don't do anything else or fool around with replacong those tires until you take it to an alignment shop and have a full alignment done. Even if you removed the front strut/shock assembly and put it all right back together (with no lift kit parts), your alignment is going to be out. And when I say alignment, I don't just mean making sure it drives straight. It throws off multiple things. Great video and music btw
Love the build, Building a 2024, running Nitto 35's on the factory wheels, added the factory 1 1/2" lift, only rubs when you turn hard right, a file took care of it.
did the 1.5” lift just lift the front 1.5 or did it raise the front and rear 1.5 so they’re still not level? Thinking about getting it too but the website isn’t clear what it does
@@BensCanyonAT4 Both, and did not effect the ride, beware, you can't add the leveling kit to it. I'm actually thinking about swapping it out to what he did.
@@OldmanMike59 Yeah i would like the leveling kit too. Something like 3” in the front and 1.5” in the back would be good. But i dont even have 1k miles on her yet so i want to keep the warranty. Unfortunate GM doesn’t offer anything else
@@BensCanyonAT4 I haven't broken the 2k mark yet, but when I found out that it wasn't going to be level, my GMC dealer offered up changing the front out to Rough Country 4" on the front to get me closer, but that was another $1,000.00 plus install, and it still wouldn't be level. So I'm sticking with what I have until someone come out with a 4" leveling kit. I will bet it wont be a long wait.
I wonder if leaving the strut compressors on during the install, with just a little compression, would help at all, if you can get them at a good angle I guess.....Personally havent done anything like this yet myself either but Im about to find out soon lol just on a trailboss....Was really hoping I could have just bought a new strut by now but the lack of parts are frustrating as hell
The lack of parts is very frustrating… I’ve spoken with King, and Fox, and they both seem to be around six months out from releasing any products. Currently, you can buy several kits from icon, but they seem to be built to order as there is like a 6 to 8 week lead time on, their products.
I have Nitto Ridgegrapplers 265/70/17 on a stock Colorado Z71 and have -12 method wheels as well and I have no issues with vibration maybe be a one off issue with the tires
You need to have pass through sockets to take apart the top hats correctly. Pass through sockets would allow you to hold the inner part with an allankey and use a scoket to take it off.
I have a 23 Sierra AT4X that I just put new wheels on. Funny enough...I kept the same wheel size and just had a local GMC dealership unmount the tires from the stock wheels and mount them on the new wheels. I've had vibrations ever since...even installed hub rings. Come to find out their road force machine is "wonky" and they can't get an accurate balance. I go Tuesday to a different GMC dealership to have them road force balance...hopefully that solves the issue.
Dude lookin rad! Ive been having the same vibration issues on my 3rd gen. I have Toyo Open Country amd had them balanced 3 times as well. I wonder if its a 3rd gen truck thing? 😮
Awesome video, and Thanks for the very detailed info, I am my self trying to decide on my wheels and tires... I own a 2024 Chevy Colorado Trail Boss in Sand Dune Metalic and either I am doing a 18x9 0mm or 17x9 -12mm but definitively 33's to avoid issues you mentioned. tomorrow actually I will be test fitting a set of LOCK Offroad BAJA 17x9 -12mm to see how it looks, and they have ordered 18x9 0mm KMC KM722 TECHNIC all in Mate Black. it's very strange that looking at all your videos it looked like your AT4 had a rake when new, and not actually level , my TBOSS is all leveled and it sure has a 2" Lift OEM, I bought it Saturday and it had a Z71 next to it and this was bigger(taller)
When you changed the shackles on those leaf springs, what were the torque specs on those bolts. I need to change my shackles as well. I bought the CCE leveling kit.
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I'm dealing with the same vibration issue with my AT4X and method wheels. Multiple balances, hub rings, on the stock tires. I'm thinking it's the method wheels, not the tires.
They are sending me a replacement wheel, so we will see how that shakes out. I’ll definitely be posting about it once I solve the issue. It’s a real bummer…
Got my replacement rim, balanced out a little better. Swapped a new tire onto the new rim, and it got even better. All that said, it's still is not completely gone. It's still a little unsettled in the peddle and seat at 70 mph plus. I dont know that it will ever be right without hub centric wheels. Considering just powder coating the factories and going back to them. How did yours turn out?
Since you didn't adjust your speedo/odometer for the larger wheels your calculated mileage is incorrect. Obviously, you're going faster (based on your gps observation) but you're actually traveling further with each tire rotation as well. You will need to calculate the increase in circumference from whatever tires you had on before to get an accurate MPG.
I wish I watched this video before buying the exact same tires and wheels with the same -12 offset. Getting installed in a few days and now I’m like, shiiittttt
Did you get some dash lights/error codes popping up after ur lift? Seen lots of people saying they had check engine and brake error codes afterwards. Tia Bob
I bought my last truck in 2012 with a leveling kit... 2008 checy 2500hd, after 11 years I finally got a newer truck! It was the worse ride of any truck I've ever been in, at least the second half of ownership... I just swaped to ford after 3 Duramax's!! Maybe a leveling would be enough now, but think in gonna wait and do a 4 inch the right way...
I love this video and what you put here and how you produce it! BUT I have to say you should not be under the truck without chocks and jack stands. Those are some basic elements of DIY suspension and related jobs. Maybe I missed that or it wasn't shown but some of the shots I don't see it and it's a bad example.
My son bought 2 front tires for his Mazda from Discount Tire a few years ago. Left their shop and noticed vibration in the front. Took it back the next day. They rebalanced the tires and said everything was fine. Vibration was still there. Took it back for a third time and they told me that the rims are probably out of round and need to be replaced and there was nothing else they could do. Funny how nothing was vibrating before the new tires. Anyway, took it to the dealership and they rebalanced the front tires and everything was fine. NO MORE VIBRATIONS!!! Discount Tire employees are what they are. I have not used them for anything after this experience. Trying to blame it on perfectly good factory Mazda rims. WHAT A JOKE!
So, a couple things to note here. You don't measure what height you've gained that way. You mention the ride quality being awful until you added the rear lift, but the at4x comes leveled already 🤔 Also, as for spacer lifts/levels will always ride a lot more stiff than a coil (provided it's not set at the highest level) so i just... Idk i find it hard to believe you added this and the ride quality "improved" I suppose everyone has a different interpretation of rough so when you say it was bouncy do you mean it was soft and the rebound was the bounce or did it make it ride more stiff which you prefer?
I’m confused as to where you should measure the height you have gained then?? I’m measuring the spots that indicate approach, break over, and departure angles. Which are the most important parts to off Roading. The AT4X is not level from the factory. That’s why every single company that makes a leveling kit for my AT4 also makes one for the AT4X. I never said the ride quality improved over stock. as a matter of fact, I said the opposite, that it is probably bumpier, and that I’ve probably gotten used to it. What I said was that it was borderline unbearable with just the 2 inch lift in the front on the stock rear height. But it got much better once I put the 1 inch in the rear. As in better than when only the front was lifted, not better than stock. Just some clarification. Thanks for watching.
@@TrailTherapyNash you're supposed to measure from the center of the wheel to the inside of the fender. Measuring to the body and rails will change based on tires being aired out or if they're worn down which would provide an inaccurate measurement. Sure, approach angle matters but you also have how ever many inches before of body before a vehicle is hitting its frame ( i guess protecting the body is sorta important) should invest in some real sliders. The honest suspension companies i've talked with mentioned the AT4x already coming pre-leveled. Every company makes a leveling kit because they're banking on people being uniformed and just buying the first product they see 🤷🏻 thats how i see it.
I know… I was getting into an enormous personal project if you search for Colt Capperrune on TH-cam and check out the last four or five videos you’ll be able to see what was taking 100% of my time lol
Hey man, have you actually heard of anyone that works on these trucks specifically because every thing I’ve ever searched on TH-cam, is all about tundras and Tacoma and I’m sick of it! like why isn’t there any information on this truck and how to fit 35’s?
I love the look truck. However, as a 25 year automotive professional. This install makes me cringe. You've probably wrecked your front CV axles by leaving them in the knuckles while you pushed down to get the strut back in. You also need a wheel alignment now. A lift will throw every spec out. The issues you are having with the tires, and the fact you didn't have hub centre rings from the start. This is extremely amateur and unsafe. If you had professionals do this work, you wouldn't have any of these problems. A professional shop( read not discount tire) would have told you that the tires wouldn't balance from the start. Lastly. I hope you've torqued your suspension components correctly.
Thanks for the comment, and for watching. Shine some light on a few things for me if you can. Me, pushing down with my own body weight is enough to ruin a CV? Forgive my ignorance, but that seems unlikely being that they will incur far more force, I’ll be at at a less severe angle, then my hundred pounds of force pushing down? I’ve already gotten a wheel alignment, it was the very first thing that I did after the install. I couldn’t find exact torque specs for this particular truck, so I looked up some specs for similar vehicles to make sure I was in the ballpark. And method race wheels themselves told me that this would be considered a “lug centric application” and never mentioned anything about pub centric rings. Like I stated, in the video, they are on there now, but did not solve the problem in anyway. I have a very mechanical background, working on road vehicles is new to me. So I appreciate any opportunity to learn.
@TrailTherapyNash it would be worth your time to Google image search the inner workings of a CV joint. They are only held together with the boot and being installed into the truck. If you over extend them, the joints will come apart. Inside the front diff the CV spline goes into the carrier. The excessive side loading you put on those can damage the spider gears and carrier bearings. A lift like this will permanently change your cv angle as well ,which can cause binding in fully flexed situations. Of note when GM developed the lift for the Trailboss and AT4 on the half tons, that lift comes with longer CV axles to correct the angles. Frequently we see CV axle failure with cheaper spacer lifts, as well as upper control arm failures. It's so bad GM won't warranty an upper control arm without pictures to prove it isn't lifted. Proper torque is critical, and final torque must be applied at ride height. No wheel is lug centric. The weight of the truck must be carried by the Hub bearing flange, the lug nuts can snap if they carry the weight. Do not ever allow the lugs to bear the weight, they aren't designed for that.
Anyone who calls this a "truck" clearly has no clue what a "real truck" is. "Real Truck" owners NEVER don't do stupid stuff like sticking 40" tires on a stock Sierra 1500. 35" tires or bigger, lifted 2+ inches, V8 or larger, loud ass exhaust, 6 foot bed or longer, and sits on its own unique chassis. Thats how we do it here in Texas. You California city boys might do something different. I believe the Canyon sits on the same chassis as the traverse, and the Sierra 1500 Crew Cab Short sits on a Yukon's chassis and the crew cab long bed on the Yukon XL's chassis. All the other brands are the same way.
Huge respect to you man .. I only know you from the producer channel, so this was a great surprise :)
Cool video. I enjoyed the honesty of your review. I'm glad I just went with the AT4X. It's got everything I could possibly want and need. The suspension rides amazing and it has an extra inch over the regular AT4. Plus it has 33's stock.
The new Canyons have best looking front grills in the business! This truck is bad ass!
Kinda like the Canyon better than my colorado 🤤
Love the Canyon, easily best "mid size" truck made today. Your demonstration here of installation is top notch too, excellent job. That said, I think I'd rather see if I could just pay you to do it for me. 🤣
Falling in love with the channel more and more each video. I am hoping to pick up an AT4 later this year and want to do everything you've done so far (except maybe 33s instead of 34s). The way you balance the content with voiced over clips, camera facing clips and the music in the background feels perfect. its not easy to captivate an audience for a full video but this just feels easy to watch. I immediately thought of TheStoryTillNow in terms of quality but with your own spin on things. Excited to see what future content you put out and hopefully some of the outdoors stuff you mentioned. Keep up the awesome work
Just bought a 23 gmc canyon elevation and bought the CCE 2inch front 1 inch rear leveling kit so i can fit larger tires without having to trim, thanks for the video man it honestly helped alot on deciding where i wanted to go with my overlanding build it sounds like ill be going with 33’s
Spring rate doesn’t change. The rate is a static it takes x-lbs per inch of compression. There are multiple factors affecting ride none of which are your springs in this situation (you maintained factory spring rate). 1) the spacer is causing you to ride higher in the stroke of the shock, most shocks are designed to function in approximately the middle of the available stroke, that would be the designed sweet spot. 2) You’ve reduced available down travel, your shock is acting closer to its full extension stop; you hit a bump and rather than the suspension being able to extend down into the bump, the whole truck basically falls into the bump. 3) your assessment on completing the rear improving the ride due to weight distribution is partially correct; you have set the weight distribution closer to design intent also, you’ve returned the geometry of the front closer to stock relative to ground angle of attack).
Nice looking truck!
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Hey man, appreciate the video. Isn’t much out there to compare with the truck being so new. I ended up doing your set up with a different tire and love it! I added pictures of my truck to level up suspensions page in the reviews and also on custom offsets if anyone would like to see it. Sterling Metallic color.
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Watch till the end. the truck is looking nice !
The tire issue suck though, hope that you can work out a deal to fix that.
Hello there,
Nice At4 lookss good.
Im thinking about buying an at4 in 2025 in sterling silver.
Do you think there would be tire rub with the lift kit you installed without carving out some plastic?
How do you find the ride compared to stock now that you've had it for a while?
And would you uae the same parts all around again?
Thanks brother.
Bert
Love the build, enjoyed both video's, building a 2024 AT4 running Nitto 35's on the stock wheels with the additional factory 1 1/2" lift, only rubs a smidge when I turn all the way right, took care of it with a file.
Lookin good!
I bought a 2024 black Canyon AT4.
I ordered Black Rhino Barricade wheels (gunblack with beadlock ring) 17x8.5 and 0mm offset.
And
Nitto Recon Grappler 285/75/17
And doing a 1.5" level upfront only..For now...
We will see how she does.
Might have to run 285/70/17.
But..I'm being told by others that this works with no rubbing on the 285/75 tires.
The 285/70/17 look like SUV tires to me and not "truck tires". So hoping this will be fine.
Keep up the content!
Pumped to see how yours turns out! I’ll bet that tire fits on a zero offset just fine. Thanks for watching!
How do you like those nitto recon grappler tires? Thinking about replacing my stick Goodyear territory m/t tires on my 2024 zr2.
I also like the nitto recon grappler and ridge grapplers but I also like the MT baja boss A/Ttires.
Foe new wheels i like methods,fuel ir black rhinos. Might buy them in gold or bronze color as my truck is that harvest bronze metallic color.
Great video! The leaf spring holes can be off needing some twisting like you mentioned if only one side is being lifted(worked on at a time).With both sides up and wheels off the spring holes should be level. 🤙🏼
i almost bought a 2024 blue canyon at4 but then my chevy dealer got in a colorado zr2 that i could not resist. your truck looks great. love the color.
That looks amazing! I've been lifting my trucks for 4 decades now! Yep, I'm old! 😂😂😂
That’s awesome!! Thanks!!
Excited to watch your journey! I’ve got a 23 Denali and have been thinking about some of the same upgrades
The Denali is awesome! Thanks for watching!
We need more content… just picked up a new 2024 GMC AT4 and want to get 33.5” tires too.. im going to go with +1 offset to see if I can avoid rubbing.. i think Ive watched your 2 videos like 20x haha. Love your channel.
Thank you for watching! I’m getting ready to start ramping content back up.
@@TrailTherapyNash awesome!! Love to hear that. What else you got in store for the truck?
I have the 2024 GMC Half ton and adding coil-overs in the front makes a massive improvement
Falken wilpeak rts are my favorite never had a problem, also truck looks RAD ! 🔥🔥
I may have to look into them! Thanks!!
Welcome to the team with the vibration. I figured out that the vibration can be solved with the proper lug nuts .
My AT4 same lift kit with the 295/70s Nitto RidgeGrapplers with stock wheels have 0 rubbing.
Def made it to the end. I’m a new 2024 Canyon owner. Following.
Don't do anything else or fool around with replacong those tires until you take it to an alignment shop and have a full alignment done. Even if you removed the front strut/shock assembly and put it all right back together (with no lift kit parts), your alignment is going to be out. And when I say alignment, I don't just mean making sure it drives straight. It throws off multiple things. Great video and music btw
Love the build, Building a 2024, running Nitto 35's on the factory wheels, added the factory 1 1/2" lift, only rubs when you turn hard right, a file took care of it.
did the 1.5” lift just lift the front 1.5 or did it raise the front and rear 1.5 so they’re still not level? Thinking about getting it too but the website isn’t clear what it does
@@BensCanyonAT4 Both, and did not effect the ride, beware, you can't add the leveling kit to it. I'm actually thinking about swapping it out to what he did.
@@OldmanMike59 Yeah i would like the leveling kit too. Something like 3” in the front and 1.5” in the back would be good. But i dont even have 1k miles on her yet so i want to keep the warranty. Unfortunate GM doesn’t offer anything else
@@BensCanyonAT4 I haven't broken the 2k mark yet, but when I found out that it wasn't going to be level, my GMC dealer offered up changing the front out to Rough Country 4" on the front to get me closer, but that was another $1,000.00 plus install, and it still wouldn't be level. So I'm sticking with what I have until someone come out with a 4" leveling kit. I will bet it wont be a long wait.
I wonder if leaving the strut compressors on during the install, with just a little compression, would help at all, if you can get them at a good angle I guess.....Personally havent done anything like this yet myself either but Im about to find out soon lol just on a trailboss....Was really hoping I could have just bought a new strut by now but the lack of parts are frustrating as hell
The lack of parts is very frustrating… I’ve spoken with King, and Fox, and they both seem to be around six months out from releasing any products. Currently, you can buy several kits from icon, but they seem to be built to order as there is like a 6 to 8 week lead time on, their products.
I went eibach longer front spring for a spring lift. Keeps a more stock supple ride. I have a 18 zr2. May need diff drop
Hi Colt, I just want to add that I have the same issue with KO2's 265/75r16 10ply stock wheels with a +25 offset on a Tacoma no lift
Thanks for the info! That’s a real bummer…
Looks awesome man, any update on this setup?
I have Nitto Ridgegrapplers 265/70/17 on a stock Colorado Z71 and have -12 method wheels as well and I have no issues with vibration maybe be a one off issue with the tires
falken wildpeak AT3W has been great on my 4runner I recommend them especially in the rain
Sick truck dude. Like everything you've done.
I have the 2023 ZR2 and love it.
The ZR2 is a bad bad truck! Thanks!
Watched the whole thing, very informative as always.
Thanks!!
Holy Smokes on the tire ordeal. At least you aren't dealing with Death Wobble on a Jeep!
It’s been pretty frustrating! But at least it’s just tires, hopefully it gets sorted soon. Thanks for watching!
You need to have pass through sockets to take apart the top hats correctly. Pass through sockets would allow you to hold the inner part with an allankey and use a scoket to take it off.
I have a 23 Sierra AT4X that I just put new wheels on. Funny enough...I kept the same wheel size and just had a local GMC dealership unmount the tires from the stock wheels and mount them on the new wheels. I've had vibrations ever since...even installed hub rings. Come to find out their road force machine is "wonky" and they can't get an accurate balance. I go Tuesday to a different GMC dealership to have them road force balance...hopefully that solves the issue.
I have a set on my 13 Taco and really like them, wish they made them in a 34’s.
Dude lookin rad! Ive been having the same vibration issues on my 3rd gen. I have Toyo Open Country amd had them balanced 3 times as well. I wonder if its a 3rd gen truck thing? 😮
I’m curious what you paid for lift and tires and wheels? Awesome video 🤙🏽
Awesome video, and Thanks for the very detailed info, I am my self trying to decide on my wheels and tires... I own a 2024 Chevy Colorado Trail Boss in Sand Dune Metalic and either I am doing a 18x9 0mm or 17x9 -12mm but definitively 33's to avoid issues you mentioned. tomorrow actually I will be test fitting a set of LOCK Offroad BAJA 17x9 -12mm to see how it looks, and they have ordered 18x9 0mm KMC KM722 TECHNIC all in Mate Black. it's very strange that looking at all your videos it looked like your AT4 had a rake when new, and not actually level , my TBOSS is all leveled and it sure has a 2" Lift OEM, I bought it Saturday and it had a Z71 next to it and this was bigger(taller)
When you changed the shackles on those leaf springs, what were the torque specs on those bolts. I need to change my shackles as well. I bought the CCE leveling kit.
Dude, do a video on that computer/editing setup. Looks nice.
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Enjoyed watching till the end Colt! Another informative video.
Thanks for watching!
Would you recommend this Gmc canyon im looking for something newer and i love this color i would be coming from my 2018 taco
Put the leveling kit on mine, I believe is your tires are too heavy, I don’t have that issue with mine still running 20’s 305/55
Great video. Do you think you will need to get a larger spare tire?
Do you think those tires would have fit with that lift but stock wheels?
I'm dealing with the same vibration issue with my AT4X and method wheels. Multiple balances, hub rings, on the stock tires. I'm thinking it's the method wheels, not the tires.
They are sending me a replacement wheel, so we will see how that shakes out. I’ll definitely be posting about it once I solve the issue. It’s a real bummer…
Got my replacement rim, balanced out a little better. Swapped a new tire onto the new rim, and it got even better. All that said, it's still is not completely gone. It's still a little unsettled in the peddle and seat at 70 mph plus. I dont know that it will ever be right without hub centric wheels. Considering just powder coating the factories and going back to them. How did yours turn out?
Since you didn't adjust your speedo/odometer for the larger wheels your calculated mileage is incorrect. Obviously, you're going faster (based on your gps observation) but you're actually traveling further with each tire rotation as well. You will need to calculate the increase in circumference from whatever tires you had on before to get an accurate MPG.
I think you need to drop the sway bar and the diff an inch, should definitely help with ride quality
Do you think it would be possible to fit 35" tires on an AT4X without a lift kit or trimming the fender well?
I wish I watched this video before buying the exact same tires and wheels with the same -12 offset. Getting installed in a few days and now I’m like, shiiittttt
Did you end up installing them? How did it turn out?
Bro what's your lens & cam setup? Super cinematic! Also nice ride
Ok this thing looks incredible after wheels tires and lift... looks better then Taco
I agree. Thanks!
Would love to see some rolling shots of her.
❤️
I have 1500 AT4 and I love GMC!!!
Unfortunately, I’m largely a one-man operation, but I’d love to get some rolling shots soon!
Looks so good, nice setup. 👌🏼
Thanks!!
Quality video, quality channel. You deserve more subs brother! 🤝
Did you get some dash lights/error codes popping up after ur lift? Seen lots of people saying they had check engine and brake error codes afterwards. Tia Bob
Nice video. Just subscribed. Hope you get many more.
You think 33’x12 would fit with the factory 2’ lift? I got a 23 Canyon
Great video too by the way. Very helpful
How’s ur steering? Hearing these electric steering systems don’t like to be lifted and bigger tires
dude, i'm about to order one tomorrow, You're still happy with it? I'm pumped to see how it is lol
such a sick build
GMC offering 1.9 apr on the canyon right now. I’m tempted
Was waiting on this! Nice
Thanks for watching!
Y can't you put spring compressors on and slightly torque them down to make install easier after the strut is longer?
I bought my last truck in 2012 with a leveling kit... 2008 checy 2500hd, after 11 years I finally got a newer truck! It was the worse ride of any truck I've ever been in, at least the second half of ownership... I just swaped to ford after 3 Duramax's!! Maybe a leveling would be enough now, but think in gonna wait and do a 4 inch the right way...
Need replacing not need replaced!
Gah what camera setup do you use? Killer quality man
I love this video and what you put here and how you produce it! BUT I have to say you should not be under the truck without chocks and jack stands. Those are some basic elements of DIY suspension and related jobs. Maybe I missed that or it wasn't shown but some of the shots I don't see it and it's a bad example.
All you need is ET bulge Acorn Lugnut . I fought the vibration for months to figure out that this was the fix 100 %%%% .
My son bought 2 front tires for his Mazda from Discount Tire a few years ago. Left their shop and noticed vibration in the front. Took it back the next day. They rebalanced the tires and said everything was fine. Vibration was still there. Took it back for a third time and they told me that the rims are probably out of round and need to be replaced and there was nothing else they could do. Funny how nothing was vibrating before the new tires. Anyway, took it to the dealership and they rebalanced the front tires and everything was fine. NO MORE VIBRATIONS!!! Discount Tire employees are what they are. I have not used them for anything after this experience. Trying to blame it on perfectly good factory Mazda rims. WHAT A JOKE!
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Man you’re making me regret the bronze metallic colour I ordered 😅
That looked like a real pain in the ass to install. Truck looks good after though.
It’s probably easier than I made it out to be, just because I’ve never done this sort of thing before. Thanks for watching!
Your problem is you went to “discount tire”damn 😂
Do you regret doing the lift? My daughter is wanting to do a 6" lift on her Canyon.
Just get the Elevation
Call nitto directly they will take care of it
So, a couple things to note here. You don't measure what height you've gained that way. You mention the ride quality being awful until you added the rear lift, but the at4x comes leveled already 🤔
Also, as for spacer lifts/levels will always ride a lot more stiff than a coil (provided it's not set at the highest level) so i just... Idk i find it hard to believe you added this and the ride quality "improved"
I suppose everyone has a different interpretation of rough so when you say it was bouncy do you mean it was soft and the rebound was the bounce or did it make it ride more stiff which you prefer?
I’m confused as to where you should measure the height you have gained then?? I’m measuring the spots that indicate approach, break over, and departure angles. Which are the most important parts to off Roading.
The AT4X is not level from the factory. That’s why every single company that makes a leveling kit for my AT4 also makes one for the AT4X.
I never said the ride quality improved over stock. as a matter of fact, I said the opposite, that it is probably bumpier, and that I’ve probably gotten used to it. What I said was that it was borderline unbearable with just the 2 inch lift in the front on the stock rear height. But it got much better once I put the 1 inch in the rear. As in better than when only the front was lifted, not better than stock.
Just some clarification. Thanks for watching.
@@TrailTherapyNash you're supposed to measure from the center of the wheel to the inside of the fender. Measuring to the body and rails will change based on tires being aired out or if they're worn down which would provide an inaccurate measurement. Sure, approach angle matters but you also have how ever many inches before of body before a vehicle is hitting its frame ( i guess protecting the body is sorta important) should invest in some real sliders.
The honest suspension companies i've talked with mentioned the AT4x already coming pre-leveled. Every company makes a leveling kit because they're banking on people being uniformed and just buying the first product they see 🤷🏻 thats how i see it.
No more new videos? I have so many questions on what happened 😂
I know… I was getting into an enormous personal project if you search for Colt Capperrune on TH-cam and check out the last four or five videos you’ll be able to see what was taking 100% of my time lol
Do you regret doing the lift
This is an AT4, not an AT4x, correct?
Correct
@@TrailTherapyNash AWESOME work, brother. Thank you for the work.
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching
New videos?
Hey man, have you actually heard of anyone that works on these trucks specifically because every thing I’ve ever searched on TH-cam, is all about tundras and Tacoma and I’m sick of it! like why isn’t there any information on this truck and how to fit 35’s?
I love the look truck. However, as a 25 year automotive professional. This install makes me cringe. You've probably wrecked your front CV axles by leaving them in the knuckles while you pushed down to get the strut back in. You also need a wheel alignment now. A lift will throw every spec out. The issues you are having with the tires, and the fact you didn't have hub centre rings from the start. This is extremely amateur and unsafe.
If you had professionals do this work, you wouldn't have any of these problems. A professional shop( read not discount tire) would have told you that the tires wouldn't balance from the start.
Lastly. I hope you've torqued your suspension components correctly.
Thanks for the comment, and for watching. Shine some light on a few things for me if you can. Me, pushing down with my own body weight is enough to ruin a CV? Forgive my ignorance, but that seems unlikely being that they will incur far more force, I’ll be at at a less severe angle, then my hundred pounds of force pushing down?
I’ve already gotten a wheel alignment, it was the very first thing that I did after the install.
I couldn’t find exact torque specs for this particular truck, so I looked up some specs for similar vehicles to make sure I was in the ballpark.
And method race wheels themselves told me that this would be considered a “lug centric application” and never mentioned anything about pub centric rings. Like I stated, in the video, they are on there now, but did not solve the problem in anyway.
I have a very mechanical background, working on road vehicles is new to me. So I appreciate any opportunity to learn.
@TrailTherapyNash it would be worth your time to Google image search the inner workings of a CV joint. They are only held together with the boot and being installed into the truck. If you over extend them, the joints will come apart. Inside the front diff the CV spline goes into the carrier. The excessive side loading you put on those can damage the spider gears and carrier bearings. A lift like this will permanently change your cv angle as well ,which can cause binding in fully flexed situations. Of note when GM developed the lift for the Trailboss and AT4 on the half tons, that lift comes with longer CV axles to correct the angles. Frequently we see CV axle failure with cheaper spacer lifts, as well as upper control arm failures. It's so bad GM won't warranty an upper control arm without pictures to prove it isn't lifted.
Proper torque is critical, and final torque must be applied at ride height.
No wheel is lug centric. The weight of the truck must be carried by the Hub bearing flange, the lug nuts can snap if they carry the weight. Do not ever allow the lugs to bear the weight, they aren't designed for that.
Not the AT4
I've got some OEM Nitto's on my 4Runner, balanced twice, and they're trash. Vibrate like hell in stock size. I won't buy another set.
RIP UCA's
Good riddance
You ruined the ride, steering and mpg's on your truck. Plus it still rubs.
I bet you’re real fun at parties 😂
Hahaha.. awesome response
Anyone who calls this a "truck" clearly has no clue what a "real truck" is. "Real Truck" owners NEVER don't do stupid stuff like sticking 40" tires on a stock Sierra 1500. 35" tires or bigger, lifted 2+ inches, V8 or larger, loud ass exhaust, 6 foot bed or longer, and sits on its own unique chassis. Thats how we do it here in Texas. You California city boys might do something different. I believe the Canyon sits on the same chassis as the traverse, and the Sierra 1500 Crew Cab Short sits on a Yukon's chassis and the crew cab long bed on the Yukon XL's chassis. All the other brands are the same way.
You said so much, and yet nothing at all