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Imagine someone pulling the One ring, whispering "for Frodo" and just rip it up and never speak of it to anyone
70 years later, after that person dies, his or her descendants receive the original video showing the destruction. The video itself would be worth a fortune!
It would be better to do it on camera to ruin the greedy nonsense they're getting off with.
And then also burn it of course because even the ripped card would probably have some fool paying for it if it's ever found.
Obviously it's pretty unlikely, but that's my plan were I the one to see it.
I have zero interest in treating cardboard as an investment or anyone who does calling themselves a collector because collectors collect, they don't act as glorified pawn shops and scalpers.
I will not a-okay any company doing this with their game.
LoL good one.
More fitting for them to burn the card or drop it in a bin of fire lol. That would actually be funny
Make a video of themselves traveling to a volcano and dropping it in.
You forgot option number Ruby. Ruby gets the card. Tells no one. Buys sealed product knowing they will go up. Sells all sealed product. Reveals he has card, sells it. Buys a Taco Bell party pack.
Ruby🤔 you talking about a mox?
Guaranteed lmfao
@@abelardoquintanilla4987 No, channel lore. Ruby = Rudy
Lol
Exactly
I hope some 10yo pulls the card, has no idea what they got, and plays it sleeveless on the playground with their friends. That'd warm my cold heart.
Lol 10yo kids nowadays -don't play sleeveless.- -don't play CCGs at all- -don't go to playgrounds- don't leave the house.
@@fsmoura sadge
This could have been true if the One Ring could be pulled from normal boosters like it should. Collector Boosters are MTG's bane.
We forgot scenario 5, when the second the one ring gets "found" and whoever bought the first one realize that he had just bought a really good fake
Yeah I'm very curious to see if Wizards has any safeguard to prevent this from happening. Like for example, there is a unique marking or difference on the back of the card, specific texture, something else included in the pack (certificate, etc.) that only they know about, therefore they can could denounce a fake if need be. Otherwise, I really don't see how anyone could tell the difference between a fake if that card was not filmed being opened or something. Even then, someone with the right motivation could probably make a convincing box opening....for a card like this, it would be worth the effort.
I'm not familiar with how sports cards do 1 of 1's, but I know they have like pieces of jerseys and stuff.
LOL
@@jameslikesit micro print has been a technology since the 70’s.
Just was going to type the same thing- if they are going to have serialized extremely low printing, they need some sort of way to determine fakes- it can’t be NFC or something that could be detected through sealed products, but they have to have something to prevent faking.
@@jameslikesit everyone yelling how some 10 year old is gonna throw the card away has me convinced the marketing card in the pack will be replaced with an explanation for the One Ring and explain its importance as a 01/01 card.
Option 5: Someone pulls it, keeps it on the low, buys a lot of boxes, and sells them off a year or two later. And once they have sold off their stock, they reveal they have the card (or not)
I think this is a very likely scenario.
Possible.. very possible... *wink to Rudy
If they pull that card, the last thing they will worry about is the 10 bucks profit each on a few hundred booster boxes. Even if it's a crazy profit like $100/box on 300 boxes. Do that math on that, versus the money for just selling the card itself. Not even worth the effort.
No reason not to do it either. What is 100k to 1 mil nowadays? Maybe enough for a down payment to buying a house, not much else. Might as well try to squeeze as much money out of this as you can.
You forgot the scenario where WotC never prints it until pressed, and then later on (prints it and) it gets pulled from "a box that was sitting in a warehouse".
Weirdchamp scenarios:
1. Creepy Rudy pulls the card
2. Some wizards employee keeps the box with the card and months down the road has their cousins girlfriends uncles cat be the staged winner
3. Hasbro and Amazon are butt buddies. Have some random Amazon customer get the card in their order.
4. The information for which pallet/case has the card is leaked and the distributor who has it keeps the card
I think #4 is 75% of really happening. #3 seems the other 25%.
I'm leaning towards #2 but it's probably #3 lol. This 1 of 1 just screams set up.
MTG is turning into 90's sports cards. Pro player relics/autos still to come.
The One Ring to bind them all in value, surely WotC makes sure it gets seeded late into the game to avoid any of these scenarios. We also got the Sol Ring re-skins, limited to 300, 500, and 700, so a total of 1500. Even more playable cards, so they are the real safety net for the set. Might end up like the Kaladesh invention Sol Ring, close to $1000 in times to come. And well deserved.
Sol rings are what is going to sell a modern set, maybe but hilarious. If the boxes only have hit a sol ring or lose all your money those wont help at all.
wotc will definitely hold the case for a while to make sure packs sell endlessly
I love hearing people speculate on this set. Absolutely top-tier entertainment.
we are living the moment! grab the popcorn! it will be funtimes!
Very positive thinking of you to believe if the 1of1 thing works once they won't soon do that for every product they possibly can.
You are missing out on a variable... there are claims of more than 1 card. As is forgery or they accidentally print more than 1 if the first one is not found.
I love that Rudy believes that WotC/ Hasbro has the restraint to restrict themselves to one serialized product per year. If it's successful, they'll do it every chance they get. See: Masterpieces, Master sets., alt-art specials...
Something tells me they are rigging this one card to never be pulled for potentially a long period of time by hiding it in order to drive more sales due to the recent crash of Hasbro and WotC
I think a VERY important factor is that the 1 of 1 ring card can be found in the gift bundle that is going to be released on July 7th. The collector boxes are released on June 23rd. It can be found in those 2 choices and in single packs of collectors. So I mean if the card is in a gift bundle people are going to be buying collector boxes for 2 weeks without having a chance of pulling it lol. And whats going to stop hasbro from keeping that pallet of the gift bundle for a few weeks/months to build up hype
You really think gift bundle wont be printed june 23 ?? 😅😂
@@cyrilpit3505 Print and released are different things. Im not sure what you mean
Very likely and definitely logical... so it's going to be a compleate bundle mad rush again??
They said it would not be in the bundle on the reveal stream
@@luckylarue7885 bundle and gift bundle are two different things though
The LOTR set is a big hot cosby
Statistically it will not be opened.
And Statistically if it is opened it will never be known.
Either way I have to imagine singles prices for literally every single other card in this set aside from the 1/1 ring card gets absolutely CRUSHED because of people cracking packs to find the ring and selling everything else.
Imagine they just have every single card have a 1/1 version of itself in every set moving forward. Or imagine a commanders legend set where every single legendary creature/commander has a 1/1 version of itself.
Crazy possibilities are ahead.
Positive and possible statement. Most collector booster boxes to this day are still sitting unopened in lgs and distribution (Maybe except CL1 for the distribution statement) and will stay there for a very long time, so it would be possible that unopened collector boxes from LOTR sits forever in overstock at distribution level or an lgs... or in an "investor" basement, slowly raising the box prices each time a "unsuccessful" box is openned on camera
Your thoughts are scary...hopefully they are those super OP cards.
Maybe just Like only one ever card that is 0 mana drop 10/10 trample, haste and double strike.
Once again, once the cards opened the collectors edition boxes will drop insanely
probably would drop 50-70% of its value then creep up slowly over 5 years to normalized returns. Buy the Dip
Buy all the boxes. Find it. Tell no one. Sell all the rest of your boxes at high cost then reveal you found it
Honestly, whith how messed up the Phyrexia: All will be 69 set was, I think there is a real possibility that someone finds a copy of THE ONE RING, and 6 months later someone find another because WOTC ducked up and printed multiple.
Or, they reveal that they "accidentally" printed multiple after the first is found? Could keep the market interested as long as the number is low.
What about the option that Magic30 validated proxies, and The 1 one ring gets a proxy flood, and probabaly of better quality that wont bend?
My wife just finished pulling my one ring. I’ve tried to buy others, but none are as comfortable as this one…
ngl i dont even know what kind of sexual perversion your alluding to ( -.-)
Particulary likes The 4th Scenary
"And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge."
Galadriel
Can someone remind Rudy we get serialized monkey pirates and other serialized legends in MoM? This is like the third time he’s called LoTR the only other set than BRO and every time he does I face palm so hard. I think if he knew that would change his opinion
The problem is, you are wrong.
@@kurtilein3 the problem is I’m not, go suck on your funko pops like a toddler dude…✌️
@@kurtilein3 Serialized cards have been confirmed in MoM.
@@curtisharrod1133 I only know the 100 mirrored Viscera Seer from secret lair, and the double rainbow foil Retro Frame Artifacts.
When i google, these come up, and also as an announcement the Lord of the Rings serialized One Ring and Sol Ring. And thats it.
@@kurtilein3 Try watching the "First look at March of the Machines." Start at 35 minutes. Also, there were serialized Shivan Dragons handed out at the last convention. They were numbered to 295.
I’m glad you touched on that, I don’t understand how they get away with running a gaming (gambling) enterprise without being both regulated and taxed as one. They are clearly selling lottery tickets, they just don’t offer a cash prize which gaming companies have to do. They are way down that road with arena and it seems they want to take paper there too.
Sports Cards have been doing this for decades. Sets have 1/1’s for every card and multiple tiers /10, /25 all the way to the hundreds. Only rookies and blue chip vets hold any value. It’s going that way with Magic, only instead of rookies it’ll be your sought-after playables. Your serialized bulk rares won’t be worth anything. They get away with it because the secondary market assigns all the value.
@@humanbeing7927 proxies are the only way I play magic now
Option 5: The card shows up without fanfare, gets professionally graded, pops up on the market. Pulls down one of those half million, or million dollar offers and disappears. Six months later, ANOTHER copy pops up. And now we have to ask if either one is legitimate? Because, when you combine the quality of counterfeit magic cards today, with a card that we know was a non-standard printing, and there are no other examples to verify against, there IS NO WAY to know if it's a legitimate copy. This even spills over onto the idea of someone cracking a pack on video. Can we say with absolute certainty it came from an undoctored pack.
Now, I haven't spent any significant amount of cash on Magic in almost 20 years at this point, but this Tengwar language One Ring card is too valuable not to counterfeit, and someone's going to try to get in there early. What would not surprise me is if we have two or three fake copies show up very early, and there's no way to distinguish the fakes from the real ones in this case.
What happens if the card is damaged or opened in not perfect condition? What if a one of one card is like a PSA 8. Does that do anything to the value, or does condition not really matter because it's the only one in existence?
You self answered.
I do think that this product is going to be at an initial till the One Ring is found; then we'll have to see what other cards will be available through this product. IF there are enough reprints and strong cards then I'm sure it'll dip for a bit, but retain the value well. If the reprints are bad and the cards themselves aren't strong enough to maintain interest then the whole set might just end up being a wash in the long term. At this time though I think we're just banking on whether you think the One Ring gets found soon rather than later to decide the long term value.
There had better be some advanced security scheme on this card, or the counterfeiters are going to have a field day on The One Ring.
The serialized Sol Rings are the safety net for this product from this kind of thing happening
if i ever got this one ring card. i would destroy the thing and go down in magic history
No you wouldn't.
You, like anyone else, would try to sell for alot of money or hold it for the attention it gets.
Your pay back on money from views on a video of you destroying it wouldn't incentivise you either because TH-cam is a dimishing return with their ever changing rules around monetization and it's a more of a gamble than just trying to sell it, or pulling some type of ransom shenanigan..
Doesn't even matter that I challenge your integrity though, because you are almost guaranteed, like me and others to never see that card in person.
I won't buy, so I know I have zero chances at it.
But let's say someone gifted me a pack and I cracked it...
I probably wouldn't know what to do at first.
How to start the ball rolling on off loading that thing for a nice pay out.
I heard someone suggested contacting wotc/hasbro and cutting a deal with them. You keep quiet about pulling the main gimmick chase card for a period of time (say a year) , which artificially keeps box sales from being affected by the opportunity to crack the 1 of 1 card being gone, in exchange for product, which I would then sell.
Then go on to sell the 1 of 1 card after the year, or try to leverage another deal perhaps.
Bottom line, anyone that gets this thing is going to get something for it, depending how they act.
Landfill Mount Doom
Frodo lives!
Cast it into the flames!
Isildur!
This is going to be like the Mcdonalds monopoly scam. The card isnt in circulation.
What I'm hearing is so much premium product will be opened that single's will have no value and I can complete a set with alternate versions included(and a foil set) for less than a collector's box AND enjoy multiple drafts AND afford to build decks with these cards(come on Hobbit tribal!) AND if I hold on to non-premium sealed product that I bought below rock bottom until 3 days after I leave this carrot patch I can retire only 2 years after I die?! I'm all in!
I like to imagine that someone will pull the ring, become smug and full of themselves then are betrayed by a close friend for the ring. It's poetic
Scenario 5 is Wozzy sends it to Rudy on purpose to destroy his reputation and confirm the conspiracy theories about him working for them 😂
5:30 Rudy confirmed as THE ONE RINGER DINGER GETTER
I remember the original Zendikar had the treasures feature where you could get occasional old out of print cards. I think that was way cooler than this 1 of 1 method.
Fairly certain March of machines will also have serialized cards.
I have zero intention of buying any collectors packs, I really don’t even have any desire to buy any regular pack to the set.
there is obviously more to it than meets the eye, and the thing that intrigue me the most is the internal process of the packaging of the one card.
it is obviously a gimmick. only two things can happen: card is never printed or it is given to "spot stalonne" and he just says he bought it from someone
Actual Scenario: The card gets found and is kept secret. The owner amasses sealed LOTR products as speculation and dwindling supply drive up prices. They dump their product and soon thereafter reveal the ring which is auctioned for a tidy fortune.
Another scenario:
The One Ring doesn't get found for a few years, supply of sealed boxes / packs dwindles and everyone starts opening packs / boxes, prices of boxes / packs skyrockets to the moon due to dwindling supply.
THEN, someone **finds** the card when boxes / packs are priced to the moon, and the One Ring is taken out of circulation.
What happens then? Does the "to the moon" pricing *crash* back to "zero," or close to it, leaving everyone who bought in at the highs looking for the Lottery card holding a worthless "Bag of Nothing(TM)?" How does the market reprice boxes & packs once the One Ring finally does get found after years of searching, and people driving prices up to high "Bubble" prices?
What happens if someone pulls the "One Ring" and puts it in a hard case, in a vault, and NEVER TELLS ANYONE EVER, and covertly buys a billion boxes, driving down supply, and driving up prices, then slowly sells the boxes back to the market at inflated prices with everyone hoping to track down the already-removed One Ring (that nobody knows is already removed from circulation)? Like that one person is basically conducting a one-man "insider trading" scheme...
If I pulled the 1 of 1 card the first thing I would do is contact Wizards and ask what they would give me for holding off publishing that I pulled the card. Three free cases of every Magic the Gathering product in perpetuity should be enough to make me wait a year to say anything about finding the card.
You could hold that thing for ransom several times over.
The scam that keeps giving..
I think some good source material is "charlie and the chocolate factory" remember the slums from which he came... Thats literally everyone right now.
If I pulled a card like that, I would NOT post about it on the internet and only a select few would know I have it.
The flavor of there being one ring is amazing and they were smart to hype it up. Even Wonka had multiple golden tickets though. If you are buying this expecting to have a chance, you're a bigger gambler than I am.
Dr. Evil: $1 B-I-L-L-I-O-N Dollars!
To me it seems like this is a significantly crazier version of when WOTC put power 9 in the first print run of OG Zendikar. Just looked at TCG player a box of Zendikar is going $1,300? The benefit for the seller is you don't know if it's a first print run box and WOTC didn't say how many cards they put into the packs, which retains the price. If the ring is never found, wouldn't be surprised if box prices kept going up
About ccg and tcg with gambling. Didn't someone try to say that they were gambling but the manufacturer said that because you recieve a product you're not gambling
Someone will silently crack the One Ring, send it off for grading, then it will conveniently get 'lost.'😬
March of the Machine collector packs have serialized legendary creature cards cards 🙃
scenaria X: a second copy of the 1 of 1 card appears... :D
This set is more likely to be the next Baulder's Gate than MH3.
Scenario 5: WotC QC does WotC QC things, and multiple people open the 1/1 serialized card.
The rudy buys wizards sounds pretty fucking good
Imagine this scenario, the cases in the landfill picture are all the LOTR boxes, including the one with the 001 ring. Also, whoever pulls the card should be granted access to Rudy's presence and also be declared CEO of Wizards
Hasbro won't allow it to be printed until they make a determined amount of money. They might even stage the opening to make it look like some nobody pulled it to drive future hype for serialized products.
They are liers
lyers
I think you have the right idea. This makes the most sense from a business perspective, and you could always just drop it in an amazon drop 6 months to a year from now. Who ever would buy it from Amazon would probably make a video of it since most people who buy from them drops are not investors but average people.
Sounds like Rudy is essentially saying that he is not comfortable with holding this sealed product and I agree. Not touching this shit with a 69 foot pole.
The ring is lost to time…. Until wotc finds stores boxes in 20 years. Then the drums and war machines of Mordor start to churn and the two ivory towers start scanning for the ring.
Some kid is going to crack the pack with the single ring and then toss it in the garbage thinking its a generic token card since it has no actual readable text. :D
..... Only for Rudy to find in the trash years later..... My precious.
Rudy has 100,000 foreign kids working on finding his “precious”as we speak !
I still think it’ll be put into the boxs till atleast a yr later.
This is Charlie and the golden ticket!
Scenario 2.4b: card is found, never revealed for either,
Reason A: to keep people in the dark, a secret
Reason B: value prop, secret
March of the machine Multiversal legends slot will also be serialized
I heard there's gonna be two releases for the ring. I'm willing to bet my right nut that it's not in the first wave it would devalue the seal product. As long as the ring is not found the seal product will keeps its value for how long no idea. It could be found in weeks months years. The longer it takes the more value the seal product will be.
Option 69: the card comes damaged out the pack…
I'm going with scenario #3. a yt creator will pull it and it'll be all stage.
and here we are with serialized cards in MoM
It's not the only serialized set though...
What usually happens with stuff like this is that it won't even be put in any box until enough have been sold.
More than likely, it will be stuck in a warehouse. Probably in a warehouse in north Florida.
I love to imagine the ring doing some weird noise in a bicycle wheel of a 3yo kid 😂😂😂.
Option 4: Rudy becomes the CEO Of Hasbro. 1/1 Taco Chalupa Foil released. Tap to create 1 food token.
If I find The One Ring I will be venturing to Seattle to throw it back into the abyss from whence it came.
So the suggestion is magic basically does a Limited Print run of specific cards (like yugioh and like flesh and blood) so it gives people a reason to crack packs
Scenario #5: someone makes a really good counterfeit and announces they found the card.
Scenario #6: multiple people make really good counterfeits and they all announce they found the card.
Scenario #8: the company that was hired to print the card... makes more of them.
Scenario #9: the card is found in a state that then the state government declares such a product is illegal in accordance with "game of chance" laws, and the state seizes the card.
Scenario #10: the card get reprinted... as another 1 of 1... in a new set... with a bigger print run... and the lottery gimmick continues.
It could be 1000 years before it's found.
These are going to be done expensive collector boxes for sure
“The Ring brought to Gollum unnatural long life. For 500 years, it poisoned his mind. And in the gloom of Gollum's cave, it waited.”
Yeah, it’ll probably be in someone’s closet for that long.
in theory, the number 2 of 1 proxy, that I printed, works just as well
I sincerely hope that whoever draws the card takes it to where it was printed to burn it.
Once the serial card is found, prices will tank! Predicting it right now!
Public offer of $4.20 for the one ring, looks cool I guess.
I raise you a $6.9
@@thecrookedskull I raise you $6.9420
The thing no one is talking about is there is no guarantee that wotc will include the card in the first print run. It does not benefit wotc at all for the card to be found in the first week….or even the first month. The longer it goes unfound, the longer people chase. And wotc can guarantee there will be a chase by not releasing it into the wild until the second print run.
20 rings
20 rings of power were created: three for the elves, seven for the dwarves, nine for the race of men, and one for the Dark Lord to “rule them all." The creation of these rings has an interesting history.
No word of other rings in the set being limited?
Rudy confirmed mastermind behind the mcdonalds monopoly scandal.
'Only one set a year of serialised cards' - haha good one Rudy.
The 2018-19 panini prizm hobby boxes doubled in value recently because the rookie chase 1/1 card hasn’t been pulled
Scenario 5, it gets found in the first 2 days and people lose interest in investing in the lotr collector packs.
I’m 4 minutes in……my opinion is all the ridiculous money is going to be made 7 to 14 days after release. Gonna be topping out at about two grand a collectors box. Still, gotta have a big sack to invest and roll that stock through.
Of course by then, money is worthless because the banks went tits up. But then the one ring will be worth mega tones of whatever the world comes up with to replace the worthless money.
What has it got in its pocketses?
Handses
There was a video of someone opening an early sample release collectors box and it was pulled already. At this point the boxes have been removed from Amazon. They also removed the video that went online yesterday of it being pulled.
Hahaha
What!? Hilarious
Really? If that happened that would be on the news
If I found it. I would hide it. never tell anyone. I'd buy as much of the sealed product for it that I could and I would sit on it for 6 years. then sell the sealed boxes at a extremely high mark up. then once I made all my money from selling sealed product at a mark up I know doesn't have the one card. THEN I would sell to the highest bidder for a couple million.
Option number 69. Sean Bean pulls the one ring from a gift bundle. Takes over the hasbro ivory tower with it. All future triple masters boosters contain 1 of 1 serialized, signed card's.
There was an art exhibit where they invited all the owners of a famous artist to present their paintings there. There were 34 known existing paintings. 52 paintings were registered. They cancelled the exhibit because fakes would be there.
If I find this thing, I'm strapping it to Gollum Real Doll and throwing it into an active volcano on a Livestream.
I fully expect Post Malone to pull the 1/1 one ring in a special promotional video once the gift bundle comes out
Bad ending No 2: someone buys a pack, opens it, and without looking at the cards gets dared to take a bite out of it. After doing a goofy they look and see the bit remains of the card. It is a tragedy.
If I get it, I'll keep it secret. Keep it safe. Wait until Elijah wood comes to comic con in my state. Get his autograph on the card. Only then will the world know, I have it