@@DavidSchneiderGuitar Reading through the comments, you get praised for the quality tips on ho0w to play this, but I didn't see anyone complimenting you on how tight and punchy and full your tone is, down to the lowest notes! What was the chain?
As a drummer videos such as these give me so much appreciation for metal guitarists. Frickin mind blowing to achieve these sounds with such controlled and precise playing.
On the matter of getting alternate picking down, I love Paul Gilbert and his song "Technical Difficulties" the riff is alternating between "down up down - up down up - down up down - up down up" and just spending a lot of practice time to nail the inconvenient part of "up down up" helped me immensely to adapt to these kind of patterns. Keep practicing fellas, you'll nail them eventually!!
I just left this comment but since you coincidentally mentioned Paul Gilbert as well I'll leave it here: "I find it super easy to play with alternate picking, could day one of hearing it, but I think they play the closely grouped notes with alternate picking, then use doubled downstrokes to hit the isolated note and a third downstroke to begin the repetition. Alternate picking it was easy and natural to me because I'm a super, super strict Paul Gilbert-type alternate picker (even generally alternate pick what should be sweeps) and mostly play shred. I incredibly painfully learned to do it their way and it was a bitch. If you're telling me they actually alternate picked it all along I'm pretty pissed to be honest lol."
Man I learned that song when I was like 17 and since then I never had a problem with these kinds of licks ever again. It's a great tune for late-beginner/intermediate guitar players to lock in those alternate picking gallops. It's also just a damn good song. Also funny story, I once got a gig on craigslist with a friend to help pour wine and move bottles and stuff for this fancy mansion party in Marin, CA. To my amazement, Paul Gilbert was at this party. It seemed like I was the only person there who knew who he was, lol. It's not like instrumental guitar players are super well-known esp among those kinds of people. I never had the balls to approach him and say hi though. Regretted it ever since.
@@karwashblark7499 well, I think more and more people have gotten their eyes up for instrumental bands thanx to Polyphia. Never thought they'd hit so big as they have. PG is a legend! Been a fan since Racer X....😊
It took me 3 months to cover Bleed on guitar. In the first month I learned the picking pattern and the different variations and sections of the song. The rest was just practice and building stamina to reach the end of the 7+ min song haha Its was insane but worth it! Great vid btw 🙌
I learned most of my hard mistakes earlier in life through Psycroptic covers. I went into it knowing it was advanced but he picks in such a way that is insane. Great video!
That's actually great advise for bassists as well, there's very few videos that actually explain how to play fast metal stuff with a pick. Great job man!
I've been on a try hard mode of this song for a whole week, this video comes up right in time Still having issues reaching full speed but it will come, thank for your work
This video is fantastic, and was exactly what I was hoping for when I commented awhile back on a short about wanting instructional videos. In fact, it’s even better than I was thinking of because you went even further with backing tracks and specifics of hand placement. I’m really looking forward to more of these videos.
I've never seen anyone explain the motion of fast picking to stop scooping the strings this well. I always knew that you shouldn't scoop them, but I didn't know wtf to do other than that. Thank you, my forearms will hate you though ❤
That's awesome! I've been struggling with galloping riffs like these, and I'm sure these tips will help. Thanks for taking the time to put this together!
It's totally the picking pattern for me. In my head it's easier to feel out the rhythm using down picking to accentuate certain notes. Gonna have to fight the awkwardness and just alternate pick. Played it at slow speed and the rhythm is right, but my brain just doesn't want to accept it and defaults to trying/failing at adding more down picks in there. lol
This was a great informative video, not many people go into detail about wrist placement and the most efficient way to hold/move your hand. You're great at teaching. I would love to see a similar video about tremolo picking and hear your take. Cheers
Man, I've been having trouble on getting faster and more precise for a long time now. When you talked about rotational picking it just clicked in my head, you maybe solved it for me. I'll be trying that later, but had to thank you for this beforehand, great video!
When i learned to play guitar back in the 90’s, i learned the basics then went straight to learning Pantera songs. The techniques used for Bleed really reminds me of the techniques i learned while learning how to play Fucking Hostile.
Wow it helped me so much, giving more insight than the others. Of course they're good but your way to teaching is more easier for beginner like me.. and i repeat your video over and over until finally it works, so i can write comment like this.. thank you!
i tried learning Bleed when i first got an 8 string but never understood when the rhythm changes happen in the riff. I think i just might have to subscribe to your Patreon!
I’ve always struggled with galloping. I’ve focused a lot on sweeping and licks over the years wondering why my rhythm sucks. I’ll be sure to incorporate all of this to my playing from now on. Thanks!
My advice would be play as fast as you possibly can, to build the raw speed first. Don't aim for perfection. Then after you have built the speed, work on cleaning it up, because it'll probably be sloppy. 95% of metal songs won't have galloping over 230ish bpm, so if you can confidently do a couple of consecutive gallops at say 260-300, you'll be set for life.
Nice video man. One point that really stood out to me is how important it is to learn how to pick linearly. Right now I'm working on a song that has me tremolo picking triads and power chords and there's no way to pick these cleanly with a rotating forearm.
It took me 3 or 4 months to get it semi right, but I love warning up with it now that im able to play with thumb, ring, middle, index on bass. That song helped me figure out the 4 finger thing faster.
I learned a lot of Iced Earth back in the day the hard way - 3 downstrokes in a row, but it really helped me build stamina. Playing riffs starting with an upstroke is good practice too - learn to lead with an upstroke as well as you can with a downstroke.
Mate, thanks so much, was trying for a long time to learn Bleed, after watching your video pretty much got the main rhythm straight away, now just gotta learn the whole thing! Thanks, just subscribed
I learned those triplets from Iced Earth back in 2007 with songs like "Dante's Inferno" and they really help with stuff like this. So I use d-u-d-d with emphasis on the last downstroke.
#3 fix prevents proper palm muting IMO(there is a light yet really prominent pm on the original record). But it is still a useful technique definitely worth checking
As a drummer, I’m trying to learn this song. It’s taking it’s sweet time to get up to speed,, sucks I’m an interstate truck driver and have a family so getting it right is going to take a loooootttttttttt longer
Do what you need to do what you want. Just do be sure to take some time for yourself where and when you need. Cant be a good provider, husband, friend or parent if youre burnt out on everything. Hope you get it down soon :)
It's crazy people don't find the parallels with the herta lmao it's "RL-R-L" so why would you not think "DU-D-U". Also another thing to think about is Meshuggah makes some crazy stuff, but a reliable thing to count on is they will always find a way to play it that makes the most sense. I.E. RL-R-L/DU-D-U since you are alternating and not making more work than necessary. A good example of this is "Clockworks", watch how Tomas *really* plays it. I've seen a lot of drum tabs get it SO wrong lmao Meshuggah is truly a being to behold in our time
thank you youtube for this recommendation. And thank you David for this video. For more than ten years I recognized that I played Bleed wrong. I didn't believe you first time and decided to open Meshuggah's lesson for check it. And i understood that this is true. Probably, I don't know what to do)) I remember how i spent hundreds hours for practice this song. Finally, I did it and after time forgot about it. Now I of cource can't play this song. What do you think, should I try this way and learn the song again or just forget about this?)
Except Marten plays Bleed with a downward pickslant, you play it with an upward pickslant, both work except downward pickslant creates more powerfull upstrokes wich help a lot on Bleed 😊
Holy Lord 🙀! What an awesome and meticulous instruction on how to learn this masterpiece 🔥! Had the pleasure of meeting David in person and getting a private lesson from him 🙏. A true master of his craft and one of the nicest, most down to earth and entertaining characters in the biz 🫡!
The "prrr-d prrr-d" guitar pick was all it needed to get me to see the whole video and like.. xD Eventually both the tips and the playing part were super helpful.. Congrats
The question is, can you play this song after playing an hour of other Meshuggah songs? I cannot understand how these musicians can play at this level for days/months in a row without causing themselves severe repetitive strain injuries. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure these guys have had injuries in the past, but THEYRE STILL touring. It blows my mind.
#3 - I do that ALL THE TIME. I literally cannot play at reasonable speed any other way. For me, it is quite relaxed, efficient and controllable motion - I used to play predominantly black metal for past few years - and it allows me to switch strings very easily at any given moment, even skipping strings between.
Elbow movement works for Batio and Wylde, I also find it easier and more natural because bigger muscles have more power and are faster than your tiny wrist muscles that you barely even use in day to day life nor even in gym. I guess for people who jumped right into learning shred once they pick the guitar up for the first time, their bicep is a saviour compared to the lazy wrist approach that might be more precise at first
Back in the day when i was playing metal every day, i could play bleed both with alternate picking and with 2 downstrokes. Although, i do have to admit that playing it with the 2 downstrokes got my right hand too tired to play anything after that song.
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Prrrrrd-Prrrrrd!
Bro that beginning clip was TOO real... I'm calling the police 😂
😂😂😂🎉
Get outta my headdddd!!!
Practise every day, took me 3 months to learn and its now my warm up 😂😂😂
Thanks, that was motivational 🤜🤛
😮Warm up to what? Opening a transdimensional portal?
Best comment lol
As a drummer , it took 9 months to get the double bass right and now I can do it without thinking about it
I'm glad I could play that after few hours of focusing and practicing...
"3 downstrokes in a row is just way to uneconomical"
James Hetfield: 🗿
at this speed at least :D ... james is a monster
Yeah James would probably struggle at this tempo 😂
What is the point of the comment, James is a moai statue?
@@oink988 ok boomer
Ok bummer.
In drumming, the main pattern of the riff is called a “herta.” It’s one of my favorite rudiments and sounds great around the kit.
Swiss flam
You herta my feelings with that statement.....😂
@@danielboyer2492 Absolutely not, Swiss Flams are triplets with flams on the first note of the triplet. No triplets in the main riff of Bleed
Is Hot for Teacher a Herta too? I think Alex based it off some jazz song.
Hard to not notice the incredible effort and love you put into this. 👏🦖
Thank you ❤️
@@DavidSchneiderGuitar Reading through the comments, you get praised for the quality tips on ho0w to play this, but I didn't see anyone complimenting you on how tight and punchy and full your tone is, down to the lowest notes!
What was the chain?
True!
As a drummer videos such as these give me so much appreciation for metal guitarists. Frickin mind blowing to achieve these sounds with such controlled and precise playing.
We feel the same way about you drummers haha
from another drummer, this still isnt nearly as impressive as the drums in this song 😆😆😆
On the matter of getting alternate picking down, I love Paul Gilbert and his song "Technical Difficulties" the riff is alternating between "down up down - up down up - down up down - up down up" and just spending a lot of practice time to nail the inconvenient part of "up down up" helped me immensely to adapt to these kind of patterns. Keep practicing fellas, you'll nail them eventually!!
That's the same riff that helped me learn that was well, love that song lol. That's one of the only riffs I could play on it though
I just left this comment but since you coincidentally mentioned Paul Gilbert as well I'll leave it here:
"I find it super easy to play with alternate picking, could day one of hearing it, but I think they play the closely grouped notes with alternate picking, then use doubled downstrokes to hit the isolated note and a third downstroke to begin the repetition.
Alternate picking it was easy and natural to me because I'm a super, super strict Paul Gilbert-type alternate picker (even generally alternate pick what should be sweeps) and mostly play shred. I incredibly painfully learned to do it their way and it was a bitch.
If you're telling me they actually alternate picked it all along I'm pretty pissed to be honest lol."
Man I learned that song when I was like 17 and since then I never had a problem with these kinds of licks ever again. It's a great tune for late-beginner/intermediate guitar players to lock in those alternate picking gallops. It's also just a damn good song.
Also funny story, I once got a gig on craigslist with a friend to help pour wine and move bottles and stuff for this fancy mansion party in Marin, CA. To my amazement, Paul Gilbert was at this party. It seemed like I was the only person there who knew who he was, lol. It's not like instrumental guitar players are super well-known esp among those kinds of people. I never had the balls to approach him and say hi though. Regretted it ever since.
@@karwashblark7499 well, I think more and more people have gotten their eyes up for instrumental bands thanx to Polyphia.
Never thought they'd hit so big as they have.
PG is a legend!
Been a fan since Racer X....😊
Is this a topic for another video? :)
as a full time Meshuggah-avatar user and 7string enthusiastic, I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE 😑🤟
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It took me 3 months to cover Bleed on guitar. In the first month I learned the picking pattern and the different variations and sections of the song. The rest was just practice and building stamina to reach the end of the 7+ min song haha Its was insane but worth it! Great vid btw 🙌
im a drummer and dont even play guitar but at least now i know how to play bleed, thanks
Same. Still trying to figure out how to play it on the drums tho
I learned most of my hard mistakes earlier in life through Psycroptic covers. I went into it knowing it was advanced but he picks in such a way that is insane. Great video!
That's actually great advise for bassists as well, there's very few videos that actually explain how to play fast metal stuff with a pick. Great job man!
I've been on a try hard mode of this song for a whole week, this video comes up right in time
Still having issues reaching full speed but it will come, thank for your work
This video is fantastic, and was exactly what I was hoping for when I commented awhile back on a short about wanting instructional videos. In fact, it’s even better than I was thinking of because you went even further with backing tracks and specifics of hand placement.
I’m really looking forward to more of these videos.
there is something about this song that hits a primal feeling, it is extremely heavy.
I will try to learn it again thanks to this video! Been chugging & galloping for years but this track always humbles me!
I've never seen anyone explain the motion of fast picking to stop scooping the strings this well. I always knew that you shouldn't scoop them, but I didn't know wtf to do other than that. Thank you, my forearms will hate you though ❤
Should be more relaxing than you think :)
That's awesome! I've been struggling with galloping riffs like these, and I'm sure these tips will help. Thanks for taking the time to put this together!
It's totally the picking pattern for me. In my head it's easier to feel out the rhythm using down picking to accentuate certain notes. Gonna have to fight the awkwardness and just alternate pick. Played it at slow speed and the rhythm is right, but my brain just doesn't want to accept it and defaults to trying/failing at adding more down picks in there. lol
This was a great informative video, not many people go into detail about wrist placement and the most efficient way to hold/move your hand. You're great at teaching. I would love to see a similar video about tremolo picking and hear your take. Cheers
I will do a couple of picking videos :)
Most thorough breakdown/ technique of this song I’ve ever watched. Well done 👍🏻
I used to practice this patternt before I heard about this band.
Ancient vibe is absolute and immortal.
Was literally just looking the other day what the proper picking pattern was for this song and a slowed down explanation of how to get there. Thanks!
Man, I've been having trouble on getting faster and more precise for a long time now. When you talked about rotational picking it just clicked in my head, you maybe solved it for me.
I'll be trying that later, but had to thank you for this beforehand, great video!
When i learned to play guitar back in the 90’s, i learned the basics then went straight to learning Pantera songs. The techniques used for Bleed really reminds me of the techniques i learned while learning how to play Fucking Hostile.
Wow it helped me so much, giving more insight than the others. Of course they're good but your way to teaching is more easier for beginner like me.. and i repeat your video over and over until finally it works, so i can write comment like this.. thank you!
i tried learning Bleed when i first got an 8 string but never understood when the rhythm changes happen in the riff. I think i just might have to subscribe to your Patreon!
I’ve always struggled with galloping. I’ve focused a lot on sweeping and licks over the years wondering why my rhythm sucks. I’ll be sure to incorporate all of this to my playing from now on. Thanks!
I wish this was galloping. It would be easier to play.
Trivium ascendancy songs and KsE songs helped my rhythm, lots of gallops.
My advice would be play as fast as you possibly can, to build the raw speed first. Don't aim for perfection. Then after you have built the speed, work on cleaning it up, because it'll probably be sloppy. 95% of metal songs won't have galloping over 230ish bpm, so if you can confidently do a couple of consecutive gallops at say 260-300, you'll be set for life.
@@beanzthumbz this song isn’t anywhere close to 230bpm
@@Zeta9966 the subdivision of bleed can be interpreted as 150bpm sextuplets, 115bpm 32nd notes, or 230bpm 16ths.
richtig gut erklärt, muss ich mal ausprobieren🤘
Thanks brother I'm going to keep coming back to this for more
Nice video man. One point that really stood out to me is how important it is to learn how to pick linearly. Right now I'm working on a song that has me tremolo picking triads and power chords and there's no way to pick these cleanly with a rotating forearm.
Hell yeah dude!!! Thank you so much for the insights, I’m actually an upslant picker myself so that my be right my alley
Definetly, thats great! :)
0:00 this is an accurate representation of me trying to play Metal with my damn useless hands
Hopefully with the tips from David it won't be for much longer
It took me 3 or 4 months to get it semi right, but I love warning up with it now that im able to play with thumb, ring, middle, index on bass. That song helped me figure out the 4 finger thing faster.
That picking technique is an amazing tool for writing new stuff.
Spot on and you said it perfectly. That picking pattern has helped me all over the place in my metal playing.
I learned a lot of Iced Earth back in the day the hard way - 3 downstrokes in a row, but it really helped me build stamina. Playing riffs starting with an upstroke is good practice too - learn to lead with an upstroke as well as you can with a downstroke.
I just turned 15 and ive been playing guitar since 13 (so not the best) and this video is really helpful thanks!
Use that youthful energy to learn as much as possible. I'm 24 now and even attempting to learn anything new is like getting cock blocked
Same I turn 15 in a couple weeks but I am obviously the goat
@@JooliganTheSnooligan thats very interesting
Damn, regardless of what song you're learning, this is just overall great picking technique advice. 👍🤘
You got it!
this is a work of art man!
Thanks for the tutorial! It makes it way more achievable
This video helps me a lot Thank you!
Very good video David!!!!
Thank you very much Henning :):)
Mate, thanks so much, was trying for a long time to learn Bleed, after watching your video pretty much got the main rhythm straight away, now just gotta learn the whole thing! Thanks, just subscribed
That's great!
You passed the lesson in a pretty easy form, really thanks...
Thank you for the video! That is actually the best video on that topic. The tips are really helpful!
The pick at the end looks like it's going to rob a bank.
I’m still practicing this, but so far it open a new world of right hand movements
that PRD-PRD scene in the beginning is just brilliant, xD
Im doing to show this to all my guitar students for your right hand technique/staying relaxed over the body/bridge. Incredible
Great work!
Thank you that's amazing :)
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5:45 recommendation on the arm position makes a WORLD of difference. I've been needlessly struggling before watching this lol.
I learned those triplets from Iced Earth back in 2007 with songs like "Dante's Inferno" and they really help with stuff like this. So I use d-u-d-d with emphasis on the last downstroke.
"Doing 3 Downstrokes in a row is not maintainable at higher speeds."
Well, he obviously has never heard of Jon Schaffer or Iced Earth.
Blown away. Thanks!
Even the members had to practice this one for gigs.
Definetly! Playing this live takes everyone a couple of weeks!
1:47 A meme that says 'SUFFER' followed by 'but why?' - well played, lmao
Good advice, I also came to it from personal experience. But it’s better, of course, to find out sooner and not spend years understanding the process.
Very good teaching, enjoyed every second of this video
Thank you, thats great!
Thanks for explanation man, It sounds familiar but fresh
#3 fix prevents proper palm muting IMO(there is a light yet really prominent pm on the original record). But it is still a useful technique definitely worth checking
As a drummer, I’m trying to learn this song. It’s taking it’s sweet time to get up to speed,, sucks I’m an interstate truck driver and have a family so getting it right is going to take a loooootttttttttt longer
Do what you need to do what you want. Just do be sure to take some time for yourself where and when you need. Cant be a good provider, husband, friend or parent if youre burnt out on everything. Hope you get it down soon :)
It's crazy people don't find the parallels with the herta lmao it's "RL-R-L" so why would you not think "DU-D-U". Also another thing to think about is Meshuggah makes some crazy stuff, but a reliable thing to count on is they will always find a way to play it that makes the most sense. I.E. RL-R-L/DU-D-U since you are alternating and not making more work than necessary. A good example of this is "Clockworks", watch how Tomas *really* plays it. I've seen a lot of drum tabs get it SO wrong lmao Meshuggah is truly a being to behold in our time
thank you youtube for this recommendation. And thank you David for this video. For more than ten years I recognized that I played Bleed wrong. I didn't believe you first time and decided to open Meshuggah's lesson for check it. And i understood that this is true. Probably, I don't know what to do)) I remember how i spent hundreds hours for practice this song. Finally, I did it and after time forgot about it. Now I of cource can't play this song. What do you think, should I try this way and learn the song again or just forget about this?)
Try it again, should be a general approach:)
@@DavidSchneiderGuitar Ok, i will think about this. Thank you again🙂
Great breakdown
Great video !
Now let’s see one for reptile by periphery ! Gluck
This is killer thanks for making this
Great work
This was cool! 😃
THANK YOU! 🤘
I'm very pumped I found your channel!🤘🏻
Awesome video man liked and subbed!
Excellent video!
finally i'll be able to finish bleed, thanks
thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU!!!
Will try now! 💪
Except Marten plays Bleed with a downward pickslant, you play it with an upward pickslant, both work except downward pickslant creates more powerfull upstrokes wich help a lot on Bleed 😊
Such a great song.
Thanks man ❤
Holy Lord 🙀! What an awesome and meticulous instruction on how to learn this masterpiece 🔥! Had the pleasure of meeting David in person and getting a private lesson from him 🙏. A true master of his craft and one of the nicest, most down to earth and entertaining characters in the biz 🫡!
The "prrr-d prrr-d" guitar pick was all it needed to get me to see the whole video and like.. xD
Eventually both the tips and the playing part were super helpful.. Congrats
8:26 sure glad you included the tab 😝
after about 1 hour i got from 33% speed to 65% speed on my bass thanks for the help in this vid man.
its light light speed. easy to go to 65% it's speed, (almost) impossible to reach 100
The question is, can you play this song after playing an hour of other Meshuggah songs? I cannot understand how these musicians can play at this level for days/months in a row without causing themselves severe repetitive strain injuries. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure these guys have had injuries in the past, but THEYRE STILL touring. It blows my mind.
fresh strings, havnt heard that sound in a long time
Went from 0 to 100 BPM in 1,5 hour. Solid tips!
4 days, 115 BPM. Great video. Thanks!
so how did it go?@@jonnyrbr
really well broken down !!!
For me its just to learn the rhytm, technicue is there :)
when he said "brrr-t", my brain made a connection.
2:28 James Hetfield: hold my beer
I of course refere to the speed of bleed... I don't think it is physically possible to play 32 notes with downstrokes.
I swear that Pic singing the Riff was the funniest thing i ve seen Today.
Your funny sketches make me think of Die Sendung mit der Maus 😊
#3 - I do that ALL THE TIME. I literally cannot play at reasonable speed any other way.
For me, it is quite relaxed, efficient and controllable motion - I used to play predominantly black metal for past few years - and it allows me to switch strings very easily at any given moment, even skipping strings between.
Elbow movement works for Batio and Wylde, I also find it easier and more natural because bigger muscles have more power and are faster than your tiny wrist muscles that you barely even use in day to day life nor even in gym. I guess for people who jumped right into learning shred once they pick the guitar up for the first time, their bicep is a saviour compared to the lazy wrist approach that might be more precise at first
Gran tutorial!!
woof, that snare is punchy! nice job :)
Really worked 👍
danke herr schneider
Thank you!! :)
Back in the day when i was playing metal every day, i could play bleed both with alternate picking and with 2 downstrokes.
Although, i do have to admit that playing it with the 2 downstrokes got my right hand too tired to play anything after that song.
Thanks! Now I know everything :)
You sound way better than the original, mate. I am fascinated. Hail from Ukraine.