I'm not even that much of a Meshuggah fan but me and a friend saw them live back in early April this year and honestly, I was blown away, especially by Tomas' drumming. I think they played four songs without stopping and then Jens (singer) said a few words and they just kept blasting. Honestly one of the best live performances I've seen to date and I've been to quite a few memorable ones.
Honestly dude, how does one leave one of their performances without being completely floored, not just by the music but everything that goes into their performance.
Can absolutely confirm, i’ve seen em last month in their eu tour and although the set being only 1 hour long it was the best show i’ve been to, absolutely MASSIVE
Was it 1st of april in Örebro? I kind of enjoyed the support too, especially The Halo Effect with Stanne. I don't listen to meshuggah much but I have a strong urge to see them live again.
Him and Gavin Harrison are my two favorite drummers in this space. Even though they're trained completely different they came upon a similar style of heavy drumming, and no doubt Gavin's playing in Porcupine Tree came from Meshuggah inspiration.
Dude is insanely good. He has the creative mind of a jazz drummer with the groove, rigidity, and power of a metal drummer. He clearly listens across genres. He has to, to be this good.
I want to see them so damned badly. This band took me months away from any other music. I must say, from what I can tell, they are either extremely underrated or simply unrecognized by the majority in the states. Maybe both. But by my heart I can tell you, meshuggah has their place as the musical epiphany of what my love for music actually means. Still gives me chills every listen. In all aspects, from lyricism to synchronicity of the lot, I fucking love this band.
What can I even say? Meshuggah and each member is a pioneer of hellish machinery. Thomas exhibits so much genius. It's also worth mentioning that it's equally as technical and impressive that the guitarist and bassist can follow the blistering bass kicks. Their approach to music has really woken me up and helped me create more expressive music.
I like how at 1:03 hes talking about the difficulty of Bleed back then when it first came out, and as of late 2023 at 52 years old hes still playing Bleed live to this day.
It adds gravity to your comment... that you expressed it "20 months" ...heh... kinda shows how much it has affected you. I can pinpoint my "discovery" of both bands with similar accuracy.
@@MarcCastellsBallestaIt's not a joke. What they're saying is: You know exactly when you first heard Meshuggah and Gojira. The fact that you know this shows how important this event was to you. It shows what an impression both bands have made on you.
Man, I’ve been listening to these bands for 20 years - you’re in for a whole journey as you work through their music catalogues. You might like some albums more than others but they’re all fantastic in their own way, it takes time for all the music to sink in and become appreciated…. Took me 20 years! Enjoy! Amon Amarth was always a favourite for me back then too. And the endless world of Devin Townsend, ie Strapping Young Lad.
A metal band with a drummer that can keep it groovy even in an extremely heavy song is sooo good. Not similar in style but Entropia - Wisdom is one of those songs
😮 with which band did you play back then? I saw Meshuggah on that tour for the 1st time. Nothing just came out but they did not play any song from it since their 8 strings were not ready if I remember correctly
I saw them tour with Tool, and many times since. Tool used to say they loved/hated Mesh on that tour, because they got their asses kicked every single night of the tour. I still think that tour is what set them up for all after. They always had the goods, but just needed the visibility. To see them now…it’s so rewarding. Same for Devin Townsend, who I’ve followed since ‘98. Pinnacle metal now.
@@gregbester3855 That's refreshing and eclectic to hear someone who played in a band like the Used on the same fest as them appreciates Tomas/Meshuggah. Also, the Used at Ozzfest is random af lol
As a guitar player it's so rewarding to learn their music. It's a journey in itself, from not being able to groove to it at all in the first few listens, to counting it out while playing and getting the feel in, to finally being able to play it from pure muscle memory. The coolest thing is that once you get the groove down you kinda forget how to count it and if you try to explain it to someone you feel like you have no idea yourself how to play it, like Thomas said. It just works.
I love how Drumeo is very inclusive of all styles of music, and recognizes great musicianship from jazz to metal to latin to pop. Awesome job as always, Drumeo!
All of the drummers on Drumeo are incredibly talented, but dude... you always take the cake in my book. Your ability to dissect and then execute these complex rhythms and patterns is truly amazing.
Catch 33 is my favorite album for the gym, I just start it, workout, and im basically done when it’s over, non-stop energy injected directly into your brain.
I am both mad and happy about finally discovering Meshuggah. I knew they were a good band but just never really listened to them. Now, I realize how ridiculously talented they are and what makes me happy is I can start from the beginning and listed to hours of this amazing music. I am a drummer and what Tomas does on that kit is literally mind boggling.
Kinda what happened with me. Cd player in my truck has been almost exclusively shuggah for 2+ years! Somehow missed them in my younger years, but for me now everyday is like a musical Christmas!
Same here, I’ve known about them for years and years and just never got really into them. But the last 2 years I’ve just been obsessed with them and i still haven’t been able to see them live. I remember them being at so many festivals I attended and touring my cities too which is extra annoying haha.
Thank you Drumeo for embracing all types of music! Haake will be remembered as one of the greats for obliterating boundaries. Do Elliot Hoffman next!!!
Maybe one of the most influential in music since the 2000s even? All modern metal and prog basically leans on this more modern numbers/technicality style that meshuggah pioneered, i think.
Laid back is what I’ve come to feel as well. Once you get it, you “get it”. The syncopated feel over 4/4 is an entire body feel that I’ve come to realise is now deep within me and cannot leave. It follows me throughout my day, through every movement, lining up at amazing times.
I have been playing drums for at least 15 years and have taught myself songs or song structures just by listening, which helped me learn different rhythms and variations of hundreds of Songs of all genres. Through my newfound passion for Meshuggah's music, I had to learn to play drums by reading sheet music, as the complexity of songs like 'Straws Pulled at Random' or 'Rational Gaze' was no longer understandable to me by just listening. For that, I am very grateful. It allowed me to grow tremendously as a musician.
These guys are the Gentle Giant equal of extreme metal. Technical, insanely hard and intricate, eclectic, all played with musicality and groove. Proud swede!
No other band made me grow as a music listener more than MESHUGGAH. I'm 35 now and without a y shame I'll throw a childish statement: MESHUGGAH is the best band ever. Pozdro666
What I enjoy the most is the fact to come up with such patterns. The entire structure is genuisly bizarre and feels like a messy stream with lot of whirlpool, yet it all flows from one direction to another with a sense. It is challenging for first listeners but once you get the taste of the complexity, it's delicious!
I think meshuggah found a residual spot in our consciousness somewhere, that is forgotten along that long road of evolution. that primordial rhythm feel that is covered with hundreds of thousand years of traditional/learnt stuff, laying there, dormant. somehow meshuggah reaches and stimulates there. Their melodies sound like distant memories that you cannot figure out, yet you feel they are captivatingly familiar.
@6:34 one of the sickest grooves ever. I'm really glad Drumeo did this, Tomas is one of the most influential rock/metal drummers today. A lot of the examples were from the earlier stuff, I do wish they would have explored the later material a bit more.
Concatenation was the first song I heard by them many years ago. And as a drummer who mainly listened to Deftones and Korn, I was absolutely blown away by it.
Hell yeah, i liked them, Tool, Mr. Bungle, Primus, Dream Theater, then discovered death metal with Slipknot’s _Iowa_ being the gateway, then more prog metal bands, but within two years after that I’d catch Meshuggah opening for Tool in ‘02 and it was all over….
Abe and David are no slouches either. KoRn isn't really that great per se (especially post Issues), but David did a ton of really whakcy unique stuff. I think he doesn't get enough respect as a drummer 'cause "numetal" and what not. Abe is a little more fortunate on that front, as far as recognition goes.
Another Thomas Haake must watch clip, is the promo video he did for Sonor's Vintage series. The amount of tastyness in that relatively short clip is unbelievable
Yeah, Tomas is a pure genius, one of a kind. When I bought DEI it was a torture for me as a young metal kid. All this patterns, phrases, sublevels. And only Nothing completely gave me the opportunity to unterstand the world of Meshuggah, and it's still my favourite album for many reasons. So glad that Aaron said few words about Sum (my favourite track from Catch 33) and of course Phantoms - in my mind, the peak of their creativity. I hope one day we will see Tomas himself in Drumeo, it will be a big holiday for all of the fans.
I had heard of Meshuggah before. But My first time ever hearing their stuff was at a concert. House of Blues Boston late 2016. Got Mezzanine seat, _dead center_ bullseye for all the lights. *Holy. Mother. Of God.* I instantly fell in love with this chaotic insanity that absolutely POUNDED my ear drums. Combined with the most insane light show i had ever seen in my life.
And I'd say not for good for the most part, like 90% of modern metal bands are copying their riff structure, creating an army of generic and zero memorable bands. I'd rather listen to pre-djent metal while the next wave of innovation comes
@@TheSilverGate that's typical. Bands come out that push metal into new territories and other bands kinda spin off them. Kinda saturates the market so to speak but I always like hearing different spins on things.
@@andys3035I think the saturation also has less to do with any specific genre having copy cat issues and more with the barrier to entry lowering considerably for musicians to push out a product within the last 10-20 years in particular
I cannot even begin to express how jealous I am right now. So you saw Meshuggah open for Tool the year that they were touring Lateralus.....that's insane.
@@davidgomersall7185 yep. They had different openers as the tour went on but Meshuggah was their final opener of the tour. During Triad they brought out roto toms in front of Danny and Tomas came out and slayed WITH Danny..absolutely killer. The fans loved both bands but Tool went to another level with Lateralus..
Not only is he a mindblowingly good drummer...his ability to speak near perfect English with little to no noticeable Swedish accent also blows my mind 😂
It always blows my minds how some Swedes can do that - English like it's their native language (American English, anyway). The Skarsgard brothers (Alex and Bill), Joel Kinneman, etc, no discernible accent when speaking English. Amazing.
I've worked with lot of Scandinavians, and they are one of those that you can't guess if they're native English speaking or not. They learn English from a very early age and their education system is among the top if not the top. I feel history wise and wars with the UK must have some degree of influence in a way.
Think haake lives atleast part time in the US. But yeah you can definitely get around all parts of sweden with only english. Even really small towns in the middle of no where :)
@@adk5980 That's not the interesting part to me. It's the perfect American accent part. My mother was born and raised in Ireland (English language) and has lived in the US for over 50 years now, yet still does and always will sound like a foreigner you everyone in the US. Many Swedes do not - they pass for Americans.
This man has rolled an unbelievable dice during character creation and now he has the perfect combination of all stats (strength, agility, stamina, intellect, charisma)
Excellent video! I've been following Haake for 20+ years and still just as blown away with this playing. Fantastic, detailed breakdown of the brilliance of Haake and Meshuggah. Well done Drumeo! RESPECT.
There’s a video on some rock news channel; the interviewer goes around at a festival asking bands who their favorite live performance was…the most common answer was yep you guessed it…i mean, i guess it’s worth mentioning because they were and still are like the metal band’s metal band 😆. They just nail every aspect. Like Haake says they want to create unique things in each song but with flow being the main point…and they just do that exactly, while also being Richter scale shatteringly heavy, brilliant lyrics, brilliant visual concept representation on cover art, videos and live…to top it all off, they’ve the most elaborate light show, complimenting and emphasizing instrumental parts in surprising detail!
Because unfortunately they are biased as fuck and only pick guys from the super famous headliner arena bands. So all the sick ass drummers out there, that aren't known outside of the metal community never have a chance.
So happy you talked about the variations in Bleed. I think the first variation is a really great and fun exercise to separate your feet from your hands, more so than the main pattern.
Things I startet practicing because of Tomas' drumming inspired me: Ghost Notes, Playing 4/4 or 8th on the Hi-Hat with my foot, when I'm not playing double bass, trying to write drum parts that are outside of the standard Metal drumming, but still easy to headbang to, polyrhythmic Beats and patterns, trying to serve the song with my drumming and not playing for the drummers in the audience, playing softer and last but not least: being locked in the song and playing with the Band and not beside them. Thank you Tomas for the great Inspiration
This is one of the best examples I've ever watched of breaking down something advanced to make it understandable enough to appreciate, while not making it look any less breathtakingly complex or impressive.
This is definitely the most ADHD walkthrough of meshuggah iconic (and also not so iconic, yet heavily underrated) tracks haha, but many thanks for that, really enjoyed it! Each of the tracks mentioned deserved equal analysis, for example such gems as Pineal Gland Optics, but anyway, trying to shrink their absolutely inhuman musical influence to 18:12 min. is quite a challenge and you guys made it with such love and respect that I just love it! Thank you for your effort, great video :)
I'm 36, been drumming since i was 12 and a lifelong metal head(especially death metal). I've been to hudreds of shows, played hundreds with multiple bands. Opened for TAIM, Chelsea Grin, Devourment, etc. I've been blown away by many bands and really enjoyed myself at many shows.. but Meshuggah is just different. It literally was one of the better experiences that I've had in my life. I headbanged so hard that my neck was in straight up pain for a week. The people around me had the same cult like love for the band and it was like we were family for 90 minutes. The performance along with the light synchronization was the coolest thing ive ever seen/heard in my life. They've been my favorite band since i typed "bleed" into the TH-cam search bar randomly out of curiousity to see what would pull up back in 2011. This band made me a much better drummer and I look back on the time that i discovered them, learned a ton of their songs and listened to everything that they ever put out on repeat for practically 2 years straight with much fondness. If you're into this band you GOTTA see them live. Drive to the next state over if you have to.
about Bleed pattern, what this song makes ridiculously hard is the ghost notes on top of all crazy feet pattern. If you focus on only feet, it is manageable but when you try to execute all these ghost notes, now it become a nightmare.
Tomas was also doing things on drums in the 90s that very few metal drummers were. He has always had his own voice. A lot had to do with his influences, Sean Reinhert, Dave Weckl, Danny Carey etc. Listen to Contradictions Collapse thats some bad ass drumming. He was underrated back then and more people need to appreciate what he did 30 years ago. For me Nothing, Chaosphere, Catch 33 and I are all groundbreaking albums. I think it would be VERY interesting to see what Frederik and Tomas could produce themselves again. Im patiently waiting for Sol Niger Within 2.
My fav drummer of all time. This guy is sick! I have heard and seen alot of drummers throughout my journey both pro and amature. This dude by far outshines every other drummer period. Whats even cooler is how humble of a person he is. Just listening to meshuggah makes the hair on my arms stand up. Meshuggah is the heaviest, most badassed metal band on the planet in my opinion. Gawd damn they are sick!!!
I'm not the sort of drummer that plays a ton of double-kick stuff. I can do it, but I'm more into flourishes than machine guns, if you see what I mean. With that said, the song "The Demon's Name is Surveillance" became a daily routine for me for years just to help me develop strength and consistency with my left foot. The relative simplicity of the groove on top of it is perfect for balancing a busy lower half with a relaxed upper half. Great stuff. Tomas is a living legend.
I always love when the guitar starts the song and Thomas just breaks out a drum pattern you don’t expect on first listen. Dancers to a discordant system comes to mind.
Meshuggah didn't reinvent the wheel but they tampered with its structure. Absolute legends and probably my favorite band of all time. Great video, loved hearing some classics that most don't talk about.
I've seen that Bill Burr clip before, shortly after the bit where you cut off he says he looked round and saw Danny Carey in the crowd who apparently grinned, shook his head and said "F***************ck!" as the groove variation kicked in. As Bill says, if you can blow Danny Carey away with the rhythmic technicalities of what you are playing then you are on a whole other level. Awesome video and, as someone who has just started learning double bass grooves, I'll know I'm levelling up if i can pull off even one bar of "Bleed"...
This video is so well put together. Holy crap. Nice freakin job highlighting things I’ve listened to and picked up on as a drummer but also many things I never keyed in on. Great video and way to pay tribute to all this amazing heavy metal drummer’s hard work. Love it. Thanks for posting this. My dumb ass didn’t even know it was pronounced “hawk” after thousands of listens to Meshuggah’s music.
I'll never forget the first time I heard the 'None' EP, which was my intro to Meshuggah. Still probably one of the heaviest things top to bottom I've heard. This was an awesome breakdown and insight!!
What i learned not beeing a drummer but a lover of drums is that you NEVER know what to expect from this band or Thomas. And that it is so easy to find the groove in the wall of sound that is Meshuggah.
I don't tihnk Tomas gets enough credit for how much small stuff he adds (ghost notes, accents., etc) everyone focuses on the obvious stuff. I've been lucky enough to see them live 9 times, and the amount of little things he adds to fill up space and add flavor is insane.
This guy is an absolute monster behind the drum kit. His double bass chops are so incredibly complex while performed at blazing tempos with an undeniable creative heavy groove. I respect all of the band members musical talents.
Tomas has been untouchable for many decades, and he is my favorite for many years now. But hey, the story is always the same: a great true metal drummer is a consequence of a great band. It’s just like Iggor Cavalera, Vinnie Paul, Lombardo, or even Lars Ulrich. It’s all about group work. Meshuggah is THE most important band in modern Metal. That’s it.
Thank you for this! Been a huge Haake fan all my life. Personal favourite tune might have to be I. 21 minutes long and not much if anything repeats during the song💥💥💥
Por fin hablan de un baterista que estando vivo ya es leyenda!!! En su estilo no hay otro igual, y no hablo de rapidez solamente, sinó de rapidez y complejidad. Hay muchos bateristas lineales muy rápidos, pero muy pocos son capaces de deformar esa línea y manejarla a su gusto...
Bleed is wild to me mostly because the concept isnt the hardest thing to understand if youve played for a while cause as far as i can tell its just displacing hertas with your feet with a groove over it and if youve never heard it and thats all you know youd be confused why people say its so nuts, but then you find out its 7 minutes at a crazy speed with no real breaks lol
14:09 I have a Catch 33 tattoo on my forearm so I definitely agree. Also exquisite machinery is one of my favorite songs of their whole discography too!
14:38 Look at the effort on his face, it must've been so relieving to hit that section. Just goes to show how hard even just 10 seconds of Meshuggah is to play.
I love Meshuggah, and nobody can dispute the fact of their massive influence in metal. But i have one drummer who i favour even more in this style of metal and that's Elliot Hoffman from Car Bomb. He is fucking insane. I almost can't believe it when i see him play.
And its not only his drumming, he also writes lyrics and creates the album covers for the band. A true master.
He managed the band up until about koloss or obzen as well, booking hotels and whatnot
@@P3t3rPizzarelli whaat??? haha awesome
Also creates the vocal patterns which is even more wild.
Not to mention creating the drum machine drum kit from hell
@@jeremyfoot4264 He not only plays the drums, he can also book hotels?! That's crazy!!
we need a ''Ηaake listens to _insert name of an artist_ and plays it'' episode
I actually don't like that series. It kind of becomes a contest about which drummer comes closest to the original,
That’s be sick.
Thomas haake listens to animals as leaders and plays it.
@@josephlopez1063he is no magician...
@@schueff0r nope. But it would make a great video.
@@tingkagol not a contest, u can analise and learn about the drummers.
I'm not even that much of a Meshuggah fan but me and a friend saw them live back in early April this year and honestly, I was blown away, especially by Tomas' drumming. I think they played four songs without stopping and then Jens (singer) said a few words and they just kept blasting. Honestly one of the best live performances I've seen to date and I've been to quite a few memorable ones.
their live show is like flying through space... simply mind blowing
Honestly dude, how does one leave one of their performances without being completely floored, not just by the music but everything that goes into their performance.
Saw them recently for the first time, it was a short set but it was amazing. It’s like a wall of sound that hits you and you just ride with it.
Can absolutely confirm, i’ve seen em last month in their eu tour and although the set being only 1 hour long it was the best show i’ve been to, absolutely MASSIVE
Was it 1st of april in Örebro?
I kind of enjoyed the support too, especially The Halo Effect with Stanne.
I don't listen to meshuggah much but I have a strong urge to see them live again.
Thomas Haake is one of the few drummers who has mastered technicality and groove simultaneously.
Matt Halpern
Also tesseracts drummer
Baard Kolstad of Leprous is up there too
@@HugoStiglitz88the atomic klok Gene Hoglan
Him and Gavin Harrison are my two favorite drummers in this space. Even though they're trained completely different they came upon a similar style of heavy drumming, and no doubt Gavin's playing in Porcupine Tree came from Meshuggah inspiration.
Dude is insanely good. He has the creative mind of a jazz drummer with the groove, rigidity, and power of a metal drummer. He clearly listens across genres. He has to, to be this good.
Tomas Haake being the exception
@@OdtheanI think tightness might be a better word for what OP was getting at
I am a huge fan of jazz drummers and love Thomas Haake's playing. Very creative and such power.
This man is legitimately terrifying to watch play. No human being should be capable of these feats
And looking that calm and collected while doing it
saw them at Ozzfest...uhh, holy crap!!!
Terrifying and inspiring at the same time. Truly one of the best to ever pick up and swing a pair of sticks
Feats or feets?
@@phillipdunnavant5405 feats with feet
Greatest band on the planet. The albums are sublime. In concert, it’s downright spiritual.
That is no hyperbole, it really is. There's nothing like it.
Fuckin Meshuggah, man. ❤
Yeah they were really good live
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I want to see them so damned badly. This band took me months away from any other music. I must say, from what I can tell, they are either extremely underrated or simply unrecognized by the majority in the states. Maybe both. But by my heart I can tell you, meshuggah has their place as the musical epiphany of what my love for music actually means. Still gives me chills every listen. In all aspects, from lyricism to synchronicity of the lot, I fucking love this band.
His left hand is phenomenal, great ghost notes...many metal guys cant do that.
Truth. A lot of metal guys lose their groove when they slow it down or try to get ghosty
For me the best metal drummers are the ones who has a strong jazz foundation, it's just beautiful to listen to 2 of the best genres in music combined
Genetics......white men cant jump or groove.
Many Metal guys dont need it, because it wouldnt work with the music. Doesnt mean they cant do it.
@@1997slayerfan i agree tomas its playing constantly in almost every song ghost notes,but the thing is you dont get to hear them
Can't wait to see him live on drumeo 😊
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What can I even say? Meshuggah and each member is a pioneer of hellish machinery. Thomas exhibits so much genius. It's also worth mentioning that it's equally as technical and impressive that the guitarist and bassist can follow the blistering bass kicks. Their approach to music has really woken me up and helped me create more expressive music.
I like how at 1:03 hes talking about the difficulty of Bleed back then when it first came out, and as of late 2023 at 52 years old hes still playing Bleed live to this day.
I've discovered Meshugga and Gojira about 20 months ago. Both drummers are mind blowing. I can't get tired of listening to them.
Imagine what it was like when this first came out.... we had never heard anything like it.
It adds gravity to your comment... that you expressed it "20 months" ...heh... kinda shows how much it has affected you. I can pinpoint my "discovery" of both bands with similar accuracy.
@@Jath2112 I can see you're trying to make a joke but I don't get it. It may be the language barrier. English is not my first language. Cheers!
@@MarcCastellsBallestaIt's not a joke. What they're saying is: You know exactly when you first heard Meshuggah and Gojira. The fact that you know this shows how important this event was to you. It shows what an impression both bands have made on you.
Man, I’ve been listening to these bands for 20 years - you’re in for a whole journey as you work through their music catalogues. You might like some albums more than others but they’re all fantastic in their own way, it takes time for all the music to sink in and become appreciated…. Took me 20 years! Enjoy!
Amon Amarth was always a favourite for me back then too.
And the endless world of Devin Townsend, ie Strapping Young Lad.
The best thing about Tomas’ drumming, like you mentioned, is the undeniable groovy quality even with all that mind numbingly athletic complexity.
A metal band with a drummer that can keep it groovy even in an extremely heavy song is sooo good. Not similar in style but Entropia - Wisdom is one of those songs
He is one of a kind. Creative, groovy and technically out of this world. People like him, Larnell Lewis or Minneman just make me want to do more
I played Ozzfest 2002 and watched them every day for 16 dates. To see him live doing what he does is mind blowing. And it’s effortless. He’s a god.
😮 with which band did you play back then? I saw Meshuggah on that tour for the 1st time. Nothing just came out but they did not play any song from it since their 8 strings were not ready if I remember correctly
I saw them tour with Tool, and many times since. Tool used to say they loved/hated Mesh on that tour, because they got their asses kicked every single night of the tour.
I still think that tour is what set them up for all after. They always had the goods, but just needed the visibility. To see them now…it’s so rewarding. Same for Devin Townsend, who I’ve followed since ‘98. Pinnacle metal now.
@@mathcoreable The Used. I was their touring guitarist back then.
@@gregbester3855 That's refreshing and eclectic to hear someone who played in a band like the Used on the same fest as them appreciates Tomas/Meshuggah. Also, the Used at Ozzfest is random af lol
@@gregbester3855 oh shit that's crazy, what a time. what was cheap coke like
His playing raised the bar for drummers of all genres whether they know it or not. We need him to come to drumeo and do some lessons!
As a guitar player it's so rewarding to learn their music. It's a journey in itself, from not being able to groove to it at all in the first few listens, to counting it out while playing and getting the feel in, to finally being able to play it from pure muscle memory.
The coolest thing is that once you get the groove down you kinda forget how to count it and if you try to explain it to someone you feel like you have no idea yourself how to play it, like Thomas said. It just works.
I love how Drumeo is very inclusive of all styles of music, and recognizes great musicianship from jazz to metal to latin to pop. Awesome job as always, Drumeo!
metal fans have money too
All of the drummers on Drumeo are incredibly talented, but dude... you always take the cake in my book. Your ability to dissect and then execute these complex rhythms and patterns is truly amazing.
i wish they would actually play more parts in this genius serie
Me? When have you possibly heard me play?
Catch 33 definitely needs more recognition, as does "I".
It gets passed over, because of the programming on the studio release.
C33 is my favorite album of theirs. Especially after hearing the tracks live.
"I" is still the only tune of theirs that i still listen sometimes.
Agreed!!!
Catch 33 is my favorite album for the gym, I just start it, workout, and im basically done when it’s over, non-stop energy injected directly into your brain.
I love Aaron's enthusiasm when he talks about double bass 🙌
I am both mad and happy about finally discovering Meshuggah. I knew they were a good band but just never really listened to them. Now, I realize how ridiculously talented they are and what makes me happy is I can start from the beginning and listed to hours of this amazing music. I am a drummer and what Tomas does on that kit is literally mind boggling.
Kinda what happened with me. Cd player in my truck has been almost exclusively shuggah for 2+ years! Somehow missed them in my younger years, but for me now everyday is like a musical Christmas!
Same here, I’ve known about them for years and years and just never got really into them. But the last 2 years I’ve just been obsessed with them and i still haven’t been able to see them live. I remember them being at so many festivals I attended and touring my cities too which is extra annoying haha.
Thank you Drumeo for embracing all types of music! Haake will be remembered as one of the greats for obliterating boundaries. Do Elliot Hoffman next!!!
i second this but i dont know if any mere mortal can even begin to comprehend what he does
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Yeah! I saw Car Bomb open for meshuggah here in Germany. Fucking loved them and Elliot is a beast! :)
@@SMACKDOWN111god, how many time signatures is he playing at once during that interlude in Constant Sleep? What a maniac
i remember seeing an analysis video of that somewhere and i left the video still not knowing wtf was happening
I always knew he was great but I truly realized how fantastic he is only when I started playing the drums. The man is a machine.
Same
One of the most influental drummers in the genre. Absolute genius!
Maybe one of the most influential in music since the 2000s even? All modern metal and prog basically leans on this more modern numbers/technicality style that meshuggah pioneered, i think.
One of the best drummers in metal. A double bass drum genius
One of?
Laid back is what I’ve come to feel as well. Once you get it, you “get it”. The syncopated feel over 4/4 is an entire body feel that I’ve come to realise is now deep within me and cannot leave. It follows me throughout my day, through every movement, lining up at amazing times.
I have been playing drums for at least 15 years and have taught myself songs or song structures just by listening, which helped me learn different rhythms and variations of hundreds of Songs of all genres. Through my newfound passion for Meshuggah's music, I had to learn to play drums by reading sheet music, as the complexity of songs like 'Straws Pulled at Random' or 'Rational Gaze' was no longer understandable to me by just listening.
For that, I am very grateful. It allowed me to grow tremendously as a musician.
These guys are the Gentle Giant equal of extreme metal. Technical, insanely hard and intricate, eclectic, all played with musicality and groove. Proud swede!
No other band made me grow as a music listener more than MESHUGGAH. I'm 35 now and without a y shame I'll throw a childish statement: MESHUGGAH is the best band ever. Pozdro666
A maverick. A master. A monster. A magician. A madman. A living god among us mortals.
Immutable.
A human metronome.
And a girl
Pioneer. Immutable.
What I enjoy the most is the fact to come up with such patterns. The entire structure is genuisly bizarre and feels like a messy stream with lot of whirlpool, yet it all flows from one direction to another with a sense.
It is challenging for first listeners but once you get the taste of the complexity, it's delicious!
I think meshuggah found a residual spot in our consciousness somewhere, that is forgotten along that long road of evolution. that primordial rhythm feel that is covered with hundreds of thousand years of traditional/learnt stuff, laying there, dormant. somehow meshuggah reaches and stimulates there. Their melodies sound like distant memories that you cannot figure out, yet you feel they are captivatingly familiar.
@6:34 one of the sickest grooves ever. I'm really glad Drumeo did this, Tomas is one of the most influential rock/metal drummers today. A lot of the examples were from the earlier stuff, I do wish they would have explored the later material a bit more.
This groove is a banger and not too hard to play either!
Concatenation was the first song I heard by them many years ago. And as a drummer who mainly listened to Deftones and Korn, I was absolutely blown away by it.
Hell yeah, i liked them, Tool, Mr. Bungle, Primus, Dream Theater, then discovered death metal with Slipknot’s _Iowa_ being the gateway, then more prog metal bands, but within two years after that I’d catch Meshuggah opening for Tool in ‘02 and it was all over….
@@Egoblivion Wow. Meshuggah and Tool. That had to be a great concert.
Yeah, Stephen from Dtones mentioned them so often that I had to check 'em out to and Meshuggah became totally addictive 🤘
@@vkotis You are correct! One of my favorite events in life so far! 😆
Abe and David are no slouches either. KoRn isn't really that great per se (especially post Issues), but David did a ton of really whakcy unique stuff. I think he doesn't get enough respect as a drummer 'cause "numetal" and what not.
Abe is a little more fortunate on that front, as far as recognition goes.
As a huge fan since very early on, it's been really cool over the years to see Meshuggah's rep, recognition, & influence continue to grow.
I've been a fan from the first time I heard the beeps on future breed machine. Late 90s....
Another Thomas Haake must watch clip, is the promo video he did for Sonor's Vintage series. The amount of tastyness in that relatively short clip is unbelievable
Yeah, Tomas is a pure genius, one of a kind. When I bought DEI it was a torture for me as a young metal kid. All this patterns, phrases, sublevels. And only Nothing completely gave me the opportunity to unterstand the world of Meshuggah, and it's still my favourite album for many reasons. So glad that Aaron said few words about Sum (my favourite track from Catch 33) and of course Phantoms - in my mind, the peak of their creativity. I hope one day we will see Tomas himself in Drumeo, it will be a big holiday for all of the fans.
I had heard of Meshuggah before. But My first time ever hearing their stuff was at a concert.
House of Blues Boston late 2016.
Got Mezzanine seat, _dead center_ bullseye for all the lights.
*Holy. Mother. Of God.*
I instantly fell in love with this chaotic insanity that absolutely POUNDED my ear drums. Combined with the most insane light show i had ever seen in my life.
Its hard to understate just how influencial this band has been on metal sound.
Probably why so much "Nu-Metal" sucks. Nobody cares about "muh pre-programmed polyrhythms". BORING!
And I'd say not for good for the most part, like 90% of modern metal bands are copying their riff structure, creating an army of generic and zero memorable bands. I'd rather listen to pre-djent metal while the next wave of innovation comes
@@TheSilverGate Been into Meshuggah since the early '90s, and agree with you. Some good stuff has come from it, but also a wash of mediocrity.
@@TheSilverGate that's typical. Bands come out that push metal into new territories and other bands kinda spin off them. Kinda saturates the market so to speak but I always like hearing different spins on things.
@@andys3035I think the saturation also has less to do with any specific genre having copy cat issues and more with the barrier to entry lowering considerably for musicians to push out a product within the last 10-20 years in particular
Seeing Tool/Meshuggah back in 2002 was an awakening! Tomas opening for Danny Carey. It was brutally fantastic!
Jesus now that's a fucking show bud!!
@@yannickb6332well said, great comment.
Wow, i wonder who was the more popular back then even? TOOL Or Mesh?
I cannot even begin to express how jealous I am right now. So you saw Meshuggah open for Tool the year that they were touring Lateralus.....that's insane.
@@davidgomersall7185 yep. They had different openers as the tour went on but Meshuggah was their final opener of the tour. During Triad they brought out roto toms in front of Danny and Tomas came out and slayed WITH Danny..absolutely killer. The fans loved both bands but Tool went to another level with Lateralus..
Not only is he a mindblowingly good drummer...his ability to speak near perfect English with little to no noticeable Swedish accent also blows my mind 😂
It always blows my minds how some Swedes can do that - English like it's their native language (American English, anyway).
The Skarsgard brothers (Alex and Bill), Joel Kinneman, etc, no discernible accent when speaking English. Amazing.
I've worked with lot of Scandinavians, and they are one of those that you can't guess if they're native English speaking or not. They learn English from a very early age and their education system is among the top if not the top. I feel history wise and wars with the UK must have some degree of influence in a way.
Think haake lives atleast part time in the US. But yeah you can definitely get around all parts of sweden with only english. Even really small towns in the middle of no where :)
Pretty much all forms of media in sweden is in english. I think that helps out even more than the schools to be honest. @@MohcineJabairi
@@adk5980 That's not the interesting part to me. It's the perfect American accent part. My mother was born and raised in Ireland (English language) and has lived in the US for over 50 years now, yet still does and always will sound like a foreigner you everyone in the US. Many Swedes do not - they pass for Americans.
The mid section in the song Obzen is my favorite groove in music. It's miles away from everyone else in every way.
This man has rolled an unbelievable dice during character creation and now he has the perfect combination of all stats (strength, agility, stamina, intellect, charisma)
Excellent video! I've been following Haake for 20+ years and still just as blown away with this playing. Fantastic, detailed breakdown of the brilliance of Haake and Meshuggah. Well done Drumeo! RESPECT.
great episode, Tomas is off the scale. Saw them once on a tiny little stage in rock city notingham. Incredible, absolutely incredible.
I saw him last night in Lisbon and he is an awesom drummer. In my opinion Meshuggah was the best band of the Evil Live Festival
There’s a video on some rock news channel; the interviewer goes around at a festival asking bands who their favorite live performance was…the most common answer was yep you guessed it…i mean, i guess it’s worth mentioning because they were and still are like the metal band’s metal band 😆. They just nail every aspect. Like Haake says they want to create unique things in each song but with flow being the main point…and they just do that exactly, while also being Richter scale shatteringly heavy, brilliant lyrics, brilliant visual concept representation on cover art, videos and live…to top it all off, they’ve the most elaborate light show, complimenting and emphasizing instrumental parts in surprising detail!
How can this guy not win the best metal drummer award ?
I respect Jay but Tomas is a monster the last cd of Meshuggah is a masterpiece 👌🤘😈
Because unfortunately they are biased as fuck and only pick guys from the super famous headliner arena bands. So all the sick ass drummers out there, that aren't known outside of the metal community never have a chance.
I'm pretty sure he's won modern drummers best drummer multiple times
Because, unfortunately, metal music gets the short end of the stick a lot in award ceremonies.
Massive props for shouting out the Campfire Version, brilliant.
Thomas, and the rest of Meshuggah, has taught me that 4/4 actually can be fun! 🤩
Thomas is a beast, the movement and speed he has is admirable to say the least.
Thanks for the exposé on Thomas, mucho appreciato 🤘🥁🤘
So happy you talked about the variations in Bleed. I think the first variation is a really great and fun exercise to separate your feet from your hands, more so than the main pattern.
Things I startet practicing because of Tomas' drumming inspired me: Ghost Notes, Playing 4/4 or 8th on the Hi-Hat with my foot, when I'm not playing double bass, trying to write drum parts that are outside of the standard Metal drumming, but still easy to headbang to, polyrhythmic Beats and patterns, trying to serve the song with my drumming and not playing for the drummers in the audience, playing softer and last but not least: being locked in the song and playing with the Band and not beside them. Thank you Tomas for the great Inspiration
Number 1 metal drummer out there hands down. His playing is unbelievable!
This is one of the best examples I've ever watched of breaking down something advanced to make it understandable enough to appreciate, while not making it look any less breathtakingly complex or impressive.
This is definitely the most ADHD walkthrough of meshuggah iconic (and also not so iconic, yet heavily underrated) tracks haha, but many thanks for that, really enjoyed it! Each of the tracks mentioned deserved equal analysis, for example such gems as Pineal Gland Optics, but anyway, trying to shrink their absolutely inhuman musical influence to 18:12 min. is quite a challenge and you guys made it with such love and respect that I just love it! Thank you for your effort, great video :)
I'm 36, been drumming since i was 12 and a lifelong metal head(especially death metal). I've been to hudreds of shows, played hundreds with multiple bands. Opened for TAIM, Chelsea Grin, Devourment, etc. I've been blown away by many bands and really enjoyed myself at many shows.. but Meshuggah is just different. It literally was one of the better experiences that I've had in my life. I headbanged so hard that my neck was in straight up pain for a week. The people around me had the same cult like love for the band and it was like we were family for 90 minutes. The performance along with the light synchronization was the coolest thing ive ever seen/heard in my life. They've been my favorite band since i typed "bleed" into the TH-cam search bar randomly out of curiousity to see what would pull up back in 2011. This band made me a much better drummer and I look back on the time that i discovered them, learned a ton of their songs and listened to everything that they ever put out on repeat for practically 2 years straight with much fondness.
If you're into this band you GOTTA see them live. Drive to the next state over if you have to.
We need a full length multi hour analysis! Fantastic, thanks guys!
Legendary drummer, so happy to be alive and see this in person! Props for learning and nailing those demonstrations 🤘
Rational gaze was my intro back in 2003, I was listening to pop music when i first heard this.. converted me for life
about Bleed pattern, what this song makes ridiculously hard is the ghost notes on top of all crazy feet pattern. If you focus on only feet, it is manageable but when you try to execute all these ghost notes, now it become a nightmare.
Nostrum is such a crazy performance by Tomas Haake. I highly recommend someone listen to it
One of my favorite track.
I've learned that I need more content about him. You have the power to change this, ball is in your court.
Tomas was also doing things on drums in the 90s that very few metal drummers were. He has always had his own voice. A lot had to do with his influences, Sean Reinhert, Dave Weckl, Danny Carey etc. Listen to Contradictions Collapse thats some bad ass drumming. He was underrated back then and more people need to appreciate what he did 30 years ago. For me Nothing, Chaosphere, Catch 33 and I are all groundbreaking albums. I think it would be VERY interesting to see what Frederik and Tomas could produce themselves again. Im patiently waiting for Sol Niger Within 2.
My fav drummer of all time. This guy is sick! I have heard and seen alot of drummers throughout my journey both pro and amature. This dude by far outshines every other drummer period. Whats even cooler is how humble of a person he is. Just listening to meshuggah makes the hair on my arms stand up. Meshuggah is the heaviest, most badassed metal band on the planet in my opinion. Gawd damn they are sick!!!
Lovely hilarious and mischievous dude to boot. Not to mention incredible abstract lyric writer... With English as a second language. A true master
i'm a guitar player and watching tomas play never gets old...cheers all!!!
Finally this band is getting the recognition they deserve. These guys are f'in incredible!
These guys have been on fire for DECADES
They're one of the most influential metal bands ever. They have been getting a lot the recognition for a long time
I've loved Meshuggah since 95, and your video has increased my appreciation ten-fold.
I'm not the sort of drummer that plays a ton of double-kick stuff. I can do it, but I'm more into flourishes than machine guns, if you see what I mean.
With that said, the song "The Demon's Name is Surveillance" became a daily routine for me for years just to help me develop strength and consistency with my left foot. The relative simplicity of the groove on top of it is perfect for balancing a busy lower half with a relaxed upper half. Great stuff. Tomas is a living legend.
My finally, my all time fav band and all time fav drummer. Thanks Drumeo. Nice little treat after a hard day
My thoughts exactly
Agreed!
Tomas Haake and Vinnie Paul are my all time favorite drummers.❤️🔥
Coincidentally, I was watching Delta Empire play some Pantera stuff and then came to this site!! lol
I always love when the guitar starts the song and Thomas just breaks out a drum pattern you don’t expect on first listen. Dancers to a discordant system comes to mind.
Tomas Haake and Bob Jarzombek my favorite metal drummers .... legends 🤟
Spastic Inc is incredible!
Meshuggah didn't reinvent the wheel but they tampered with its structure. Absolute legends and probably my favorite band of all time. Great video, loved hearing some classics that most don't talk about.
I've seen that Bill Burr clip before, shortly after the bit where you cut off he says he looked round and saw Danny Carey in the crowd who apparently grinned, shook his head and said "F***************ck!" as the groove variation kicked in. As Bill says, if you can blow Danny Carey away with the rhythmic technicalities of what you are playing then you are on a whole other level. Awesome video and, as someone who has just started learning double bass grooves, I'll know I'm levelling up if i can pull off even one bar of "Bleed"...
This video is so well put together. Holy crap. Nice freakin job highlighting things I’ve listened to and picked up on as a drummer but also many things I never keyed in on. Great video and way to pay tribute to all this amazing heavy metal drummer’s hard work. Love it. Thanks for posting this. My dumb ass didn’t even know it was pronounced “hawk” after thousands of listens to Meshuggah’s music.
I'll never forget the first time I heard the 'None' EP, which was my intro to Meshuggah. Still probably one of the heaviest things top to bottom I've heard. This was an awesome breakdown and insight!!
Meshuggah changed my life.
This band, and this drummer in particular, changed my life.
I still have his sticks from a performance in the '90s
What i learned not beeing a drummer but a lover of drums is that you NEVER know what to expect from this band or Thomas.
And that it is so easy to find the groove in the wall of sound that is Meshuggah.
I don't tihnk Tomas gets enough credit for how much small stuff he adds (ghost notes, accents., etc) everyone focuses on the obvious stuff. I've been lucky enough to see them live 9 times, and the amount of little things he adds to fill up space and add flavor is insane.
This guy is an absolute monster behind the drum kit. His double bass chops are so incredibly complex while performed at blazing tempos with an undeniable creative heavy groove. I respect all of the band members musical talents.
Bill Burr’s FULL description is on point and hilarious.
Tomas has been untouchable for many decades, and he is my favorite for many years now. But hey, the story is always the same: a great true metal drummer is a consequence of a great band. It’s just like Iggor Cavalera, Vinnie Paul, Lombardo, or even Lars Ulrich. It’s all about group work. Meshuggah is THE most important band in modern Metal. That’s it.
Thank you for this!
Been a huge Haake fan all my life.
Personal favourite tune might have to be I. 21 minutes long and not much if anything repeats during the song💥💥💥
Such a great episode! Thank you so much!
Im such a meshuggah dork. I'll watch these breakdowns every time they pop up.
The groove in Clockworks is absolutely insane!
Por fin hablan de un baterista que estando vivo ya es leyenda!!! En su estilo no hay otro igual, y no hablo de rapidez solamente, sinó de rapidez y complejidad. Hay muchos bateristas lineales muy rápidos, pero muy pocos son capaces de deformar esa línea y manejarla a su gusto...
Bleed is wild to me mostly because the concept isnt the hardest thing to understand if youve played for a while cause as far as i can tell its just displacing hertas with your feet with a groove over it and if youve never heard it and thats all you know youd be confused why people say its so nuts, but then you find out its 7 minutes at a crazy speed with no real breaks lol
14:09 I have a Catch 33 tattoo on my forearm so I definitely agree. Also exquisite machinery is one of my favorite songs of their whole discography too!
I love how it sounds like absolute chaos but it sounds perfect!!
Break those bones was a first song of theirs that i have heard and it still blows my mind
incredible player, incredible band.
Thank you for this awesome clip man, loved seeing how much passion you got from it.
I just woke up to thus and my day is already off to a great start!!! MESHUUUUUUUGAAAAH
14:38 Look at the effort on his face, it must've been so relieving to hit that section. Just goes to show how hard even just 10 seconds of Meshuggah is to play.
For me, Do Not Look Down is one of the most gooveable metal songs ever. It's not their most complicated song, but that groove is undeniable.
My fav Shuggah song for sure
@@seansalo5117 lol, never heard them called Shuggah before, but I will from now on!
13:45 “Extremely twisted ‘We will Rock You’”🤣🫶🏻
I love Meshuggah, and nobody can dispute the fact of their massive influence in metal. But i have one drummer who i favour even more in this style of metal and that's Elliot Hoffman from Car Bomb. He is fucking insane. I almost can't believe it when i see him play.
100%
And hé seems so calm to... his work is awesome.
Yea, he's got more jazz in his playing, among other things. :)