this is really sad 37,000$ PC newest hardware getting 60-120FPS at 4k ultra .... not much better then a PS5 or Xbox for performance .. wth i swear they just kneecapped PC,s nowadays
Dude in the Halo server with a i5 8th gen and a 1050ti, fighting for his life not knowing he's up against $35 000 worth of hardware and 500Gps internet
Very true. Its a shame but at the same time great hardware depreciates in value. Its great to buy it cheaper in a coupel years, its great that more advancements are being made, but damn, the loss of value sucks.
Actually these dual cpus models arent the ideal for the 4090 that it is too much for these 9754, this cpu hits max 440 points in single at cpu-z, the same of a Intel Core i7-7700 from 2017. The ideal would be a 9174F or 9274F (my choice), on max the 9374F. These are real gaming-server cpus capable of.
Bruh Obviously the epyc server CPU isn't optimized to play games So even with a 4090 it wouldn't work great, and even then Cyberpunk 2077 2.0 brought so much optimization that I can play it with med-high settings on 1080p in 60 fps plus easily with a 970 or 1070
this is really sad 37,000$ PC newest hardware getting 60-120FPS at 4k ultra .... not much better then a PS5 or Xbox for performance .. wth i swear they just kneecapped PC,s nowadays
I expected that too, but it wont go too far as the 9754 wont give a lot... it hits max 440 points in single at cpu-z, the same of a Intel Core i7-7700 from 2017.
The 4090 is too much for these dual 9754 bro, the ideal to avoid this bottleneck would be a higher clock and single thread cpu like the 9174F or the (m pick) 9274F, then you would see a possible double fps and a (still) low cpu usage.
thanks for the budget workstation pc build! when i saw all that ram and the old school server cooling fans and heat sinks omg. reminds me of a server that a friend built for a game back in the day.
you shouldve gone on beamng and seen how many cars it could run, 7950x can do 35 parked with 20 driving, i bet this could do 75 parked with 42 driving at 4k ultra
Cyberpunk has issues with multi-CPU systems, where some of its processes can end up being assigned to an entirely separate CPU. Beyond that from other tests, it seems many games start to run into issues after 64 cores. PC, photoshop also has issues when there are a large number of cores and threads.
Last year I built a dual Epyc 74F3 watercooled with DeepCool LT720 (and 3d printed adapters for the socket) + a 3090 Ti and it performs around 70 fps avg on 2.5k ultra + dlss and RT. No issues.
I have a Blender 3D workstation with a 24 core TR and dual 4090s. The problem i always hit is having to manually reduce the active cores to get games to run at all. once I limit it down to to 12 cores it works well for most games.
Major Edit: I own AMD Ryzen now. 7800X3D. Much happier :) Although my dream one day is a Threadripper or EPYC second or third build! AMD has no competition from Intel in server workstation CPU's yet, and I say this as a happy Intel owner. Intel Xeon 6 shows great promise, but Threadripper PRO and EPYC are on another planet!
That 4090 has probably never felt so small in its entire manufactured life cycle, as it does right now placed next to such ridiculously Colossal Titans of hardware
Problem is games need higher cpu clocks instead of 256 cores. A 7800x3d would probably crush that thing in gaming performance. If paired with a 4090 ofcourse
It would. There are some rare games that can use a large number of cores though. City skylines 2 and Beamng are some of the very rare exception that can actually put system with over 16 cores to work.
@@anwarlacreem and yours isn't? The point of the build was just to show off what a 37k pc can look like. Realistically speaking, there's no point in going above 7K USD, and that's pushing it since that price account for what streamers may need. For the average gamer, a 5K $ build is more than enough for 4k gaming, and that includes the peripherals too.
Bro I would love buying used stuff but man sometimes I just can't. I can't it a used laptop bro I just can't. If I could see the car facts then maybe. But yeah bro I'm about to get The Asus Strux G16 mid tier. I'd be pissed if I bought it and some shit don't work or was going bad already. I'd be sad af man @@bigbraindk6567
For online games it was decided closest averages fps to all players with ranges of faster and slower for compatibility to insure accuracy for all hardware
just found a 7995wx workstation with a4000 for $5k ... i only game at 4k. it makes total sense for me to get that sell the a4000 and get a 4090 or 5090 when it comes out. for a full built consumer system i would be paying about the same. i just might do it.. i also use the system for compiling and video editing . i really do not see why i shouldnt
What do u have your melee button set on? Also what button r u guys using to throw grenades? My stock button settings suck. Any advice would help greatly.
I have 64GB of system ram in my computer and it does come in handy when I have a ton of tabs open. I've seen task manager saying over 32GB of ram is being used when I've had a ton of tabs open so yes it does make sense to have 64GB of system ram. Also I knew Windows 11 Pro supported atleast 1TB of system ram but I didn't know it actually supported upto 2TB of system ram.
this is really sad 37,000$ PC newest hardware getting 60-120FPS at 4k ultra .... not much better then a PS5 or Xbox for performance .. wth i swear they just kneecapped PC,s nowadays
@LiquidSnake690 sorry no, I was hoping you had come across the streamer that says its high iq research when you have 15 tabs open, sorry if you think i was having a pop, thats what wrong with the internet everybody thinks you having a go?
@toastybros Hey toasty bros I have a question on what mother board my gaming pc tower can use its a aura tower and says it’s a mid tower but I want to make sure I get the right mother broard for gaming. I need to upgrade it to have a new motherboard that can support gaming ram sticks Here’s my pc tower GAMDIAS ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer PC Case with Side Tempered Glass, 4X 120mm ARGB Case Fans and Sync with 5V RGB Motherboard and Excellent Airflow
I was asking myself if spent too much on my Ryzen 9 7950X3D @ 4.2Ghz, Gigabyte GeForce RTX4090 Windforce V2, 64gb Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR5-5600 ram, ASUS Prime X670-P ATX AM5 Motherboard with it's case and some other goodies along with the 49" ultrawide and now I can say no. No, I did not spend too much. The best part is in a few years I'll still be able to sell the CPU for a pretty descent price and upgrade it to finally stop bottlenecking the 4090.
Now THIS is a budget build
The temptation to title this as a budget build for the memes was real
Can I have your pc Sam
@@eggnorthyes
TYSM now I get 3060ti 🥰
@@eggnorthNono u can have the gt 730 one
Just 1TB of storage with 1.5TB of RAM!?!?!? That is insane.
Fr
10gb nic, All your Data is on a even bigger server somewhere else.
LOL! All that money and they put in a budget space for the NVME. I at least expected 2TB. 1TB is chump change.
Bruh you could literally use the Ram As Storage😂
this is really sad 37,000$ PC newest hardware getting 60-120FPS at 4k ultra .... not much better then a PS5 or Xbox for performance .. wth i swear they just kneecapped PC,s nowadays
Dude in the Halo server with a i5 8th gen and a 1050ti, fighting for his life not knowing he's up against $35 000 worth of hardware and 500Gps internet
why would the pc make any difference on skill? i can destroy anyone using a $37000 pc with a $200 laptop
@@BarkerVancityyeah no you wouldn't destroy anyone
@@BarkerVancityGreat joke. 😅
@@BarkerVancity have fun aiming with 22 fps
aint no way LLMAO@@BarkerVancity
Hmmm...I might wait 10 yrs when this is on AliExpress for $250.
The double Xeon CPU combos on ali express. Haha
Very true. Its a shame but at the same time great hardware depreciates in value. Its great to buy it cheaper in a coupel years, its great that more advancements are being made, but damn, the loss of value sucks.
300W on idle though?
@@ChiangKai-Shrek Who cares, that is like a corvette owner complaining the car is loud.
@@FordPickUPRed Your electric bill might have something to say though
when a 4090 bottlenecks your system, you know that you reached a new lvl
Actually these dual cpus models arent the ideal for the 4090 that it is too much for these 9754, this cpu hits max 440 points in single at cpu-z, the same of a Intel Core i7-7700 from 2017. The ideal would be a 9174F or 9274F (my choice), on max the 9374F. These are real gaming-server cpus capable of.
13:34 even a 37,000 dollar PC stutters on Fornite. Crazy.
kids play that cancer anyway
i ain't got no problems on fortnite with my pc, got rx 7900xtx + 7800x3d
That usually means the game isn’t optimized 100%
@@Alex-Proud-American for a 37,000 I would expect that shit to not matter. But I guess it don't work like that
because the amd epyc cpu isnt for gaming due to its really low single core performance. it just isnt a gaming pc.
Hitting 21FPS on Cyberpunk with a $37,000 workstation says so much about what's wrong with Cyberpunk.
So it's an optimization problem like the OP said ....
Bruh
Obviously the epyc server CPU isn't optimized to play games
So even with a 4090 it wouldn't work great, and even then
Cyberpunk 2077 2.0 brought so much optimization that I can play it with med-high settings on 1080p in 60 fps plus easily with a 970 or 1070
they played that game at 4k with raytracing...
just think about that first for a second.
@@flashicles With the best video card on the market and a god-tier computer, think about that for a second.
this is really sad 37,000$ PC newest hardware getting 60-120FPS at 4k ultra .... not much better then a PS5 or Xbox for performance .. wth i swear they just kneecapped PC,s nowadays
playing 4k on a dual epic setup is wild, just test in 1080p or 720p or whatever to see that epic performance, eitherway is just a 4090 benchmark
I expected that too, but it wont go too far as the 9754 wont give a lot... it hits max 440 points in single at cpu-z, the same of a Intel Core i7-7700 from 2017.
I have always enjoyed the budget builds, but watching ridiculous builds like this is really amazing!! Thank you for doing this!
Bro it hurts my mind when I'm thinking that this CPU, on 4k max settings the usage is like 0-3%
It will blow your mind when you realise that the cpu is a bottleneck for the 4090. Btw on 1080p the cpu usage would be much "higher".
@@PhysPushscale yeah.. it's so weird
The 4090 is too much for these dual 9754 bro, the ideal to avoid this bottleneck would be a higher clock and single thread cpu like the 9174F or the (m pick) 9274F, then you would see a possible double fps and a (still) low cpu usage.
@@PhysPushscale wait isnt it the other way around?
and still that frame drop to 478fps will completely destroy gaming experience...
thanks for the budget workstation pc build! when i saw all that ram and the old school server cooling fans and heat sinks omg. reminds me of a server that a friend built for a game back in the day.
This PC is insane. Because of the CPU, you could have this PC for 16 years and just replace the GPU every 2-8 years and replace the SSD every 5 years.
I love how the cpu usage was between 0-1%
What's crazy is that in ten years, this video and that computer will be a time capsule gem
Nobody:
Toasty Bros: Gaming on a $37,000 dollar computer!
Wow, Halo looks absolutely amazing on this setup.
Fortnite too lol. Seeing those games at 4k vs 1440p, I was just star struck by how incredible it looked
Cyberpunk ran perfectly with Ultra Ray Tracing. Path Tracing you may need the 14900KS though.
I'm incredibly disappointed that you didn't show the individual threads in task manager LOL
Thanks for the video
This cpu hits max 440 points in single at cpu-z, the same of a Intel Core i7-7700 from 2017.
you shouldve gone on beamng and seen how many cars it could run, 7950x can do 35 parked with 20 driving, i bet this could do 75 parked with 42 driving at 4k ultra
Guys ! I really appreciate your work. Can you do a 1400-1500$ ish budget build ? I am sure some of us would love it ! Cheers !
Cyberpunk has issues with multi-CPU systems, where some of its processes can end up being assigned to an entirely separate CPU. Beyond that from other tests, it seems many games start to run into issues after 64 cores.
PC, photoshop also has issues when there are a large number of cores and threads.
Last year I built a dual Epyc 74F3 watercooled with DeepCool LT720 (and 3d printed adapters for the socket) + a 3090 Ti and it performs around 70 fps avg on 2.5k ultra + dlss and RT. No issues.
Would say Windows in general is bad handling above 64 threads.
37,000 dollars should have included a lint roller for my dude's hoodie. lol
that fractal case is huge this time
Nice Worksation Build!
Thanks for the content. How about some more game benchmarks?
I have a Blender 3D workstation with a 24 core TR and dual 4090s. The problem i always hit is having to manually reduce the active cores to get games to run at all. once I limit it down to to 12 cores it works well for most games.
Bruh my eyes work around 300 fps while this setup goes up to 500?Nuts
unfortunately the benchmarks were misleading but what this pc will do is insanity. make full on disney movies and even edit a great action pact movie.
Nah 37k that's wild
There’s a build on overclockers Uk for £85.000.
The minimum requirement PC to play Cities skylines PC edition.
The 5 minute boot time for the first time is common on new AMD processors for initialization.
Major Edit: I own AMD Ryzen now. 7800X3D. Much happier :) Although my dream one day is a Threadripper or EPYC second or third build!
AMD has no competition from Intel in server workstation CPU's yet, and I say this as a happy Intel owner. Intel Xeon 6 shows great promise, but Threadripper PRO and EPYC are on another planet!
Are you kidding me with 1tb ram ?😂
That 4090 has probably never felt so small in its entire manufactured life cycle, as it does right now placed next to such ridiculously Colossal Titans of hardware
Problem is games need higher cpu clocks instead of 256 cores. A 7800x3d would probably crush that thing in gaming performance. If paired with a 4090 ofcourse
It would. There are some rare games that can use a large number of cores though. City skylines 2 and Beamng are some of the very rare exception that can actually put system with over 16 cores to work.
It’s crazy how you can make an entire setup with a computer that has TWO RTX 4090s and it still costs less than this. 😂
CPU: Ryzen 7 7800x3D (€399)
GPU: RTX 4090 24GB x2 (€4458)
Motherboard: MSI MEG X670E GODLIKE (€1245)
RAM: Corsair DDR5 Vengeance RGB 4x32GB 5600 (€549)
PSU: ASUS ROG THOR 1600W PSU (€699)
SSD: Corsair Force MP600 PRO NH 8TB M.2 SSD x4 (€4756)
Watercooler: Corsair XH305i Processor Kit (€709)
Case: Zalman Z-Machine 500 (€839)
Mouse: HP Bulk 320M (€839)
Keyboard: Alienware AW920K RF (€299)
Total price: 17.389 euros, rounding it up to 17.400 euros.
And in dollars it’s 18.925.11 dollars, and rounding that up it’s 18.926.
What's your point lol
@@Cund that it’s a waste of money
@@anwarlacreem and yours isn't? The point of the build was just to show off what a 37k pc can look like. Realistically speaking, there's no point in going above 7K USD, and that's pushing it since that price account for what streamers may need. For the average gamer, a 5K $ build is more than enough for 4k gaming, and that includes the peripherals too.
@@Cund that’s true, I’m showing that you can get a much better PC and setup for less than what this computer costs
And I’m over here dreaming over a 600$ gaming laptop
This last year I got back into gaming and bought 2 Xbox's and a Steam Deck, and I still want more crap. It never ends lol.
get a used one! I got my gaming laptop with an rtx 3050 fr 350
Bro I would love buying used stuff but man sometimes I just can't. I can't it a used laptop bro I just can't. If I could see the car facts then maybe. But yeah bro I'm about to get The Asus Strux G16 mid tier. I'd be pissed if I bought it and some shit don't work or was going bad already. I'd be sad af man @@bigbraindk6567
@@bigbraindk6567 $350? thats crazy, my gaming laptop was 2k new and it doesnt even have a graphics card, and it has 8g ram LMAO
@@bigbraindk6567it’s a 3050
The pc costs like about my dream car😂😂
The PC we will need for GTA6
What's up with the massive bow in the top shelving in the background? lol
For online games it was decided closest averages fps to all players with ranges of faster and slower for compatibility to insure accuracy for all hardware
Matt got so into the video that he started using the screw driver as a mic🤣🤣💀💀💀
I love the kitty glitter on the black jacket that makes an appearance almost every video :)
Fully recommend this at 3x speed it sounds phenomenal
So, doing the maths, that means I should be able to get 100 FPS for just $7400!
that’s bad math
just found a 7995wx workstation with a4000 for $5k ... i only game at 4k. it makes total sense for me to get that sell the a4000 and get a 4090 or 5090 when it comes out. for a full built consumer system i would be paying about the same. i just might do it.. i also use the system for compiling and video editing . i really do not see why i shouldnt
What do u have your melee button set on? Also what button r u guys using to throw grenades? My stock button settings suck. Any advice would help greatly.
Toasty bros can we get a tour of your personal setups at home
just wait videos 15 years from now talking about how bad this hardware is
Won’t even happen cause ai would have started nuclear war by then
this is evidence that playing in 1080p and lowest everything still better than maxing everything
i dont think bro realises the cpu is getting bottle necked
Can't wait for prices to come down on the used market for a 256 core processor setup with 1TB of ram, I only have 64gb now for gaming.
why would bro get a workstation cpu thats lit worse then an i9 14900k in gaming
Not using full Rtx settings in Fortnite is sad. My 4060ti was getting 80-100 FPS at all times in 1440p
toasty bros be making videos about 200 dollar budget vids one day then 37k vids the next day
I think this video begs the question, how close can you get a gaming dedicated PC to be proficient with workstation applications too.
now i can play t rex internet game at 64k with 500 fps
10 years later this'll be in a office sale for like $400 or something
1.5 terabytes of storage goes crazy(normal is 16 - 64 gigabytes)
I meant to say ram my bad don’t kill me pls
I’m in the process of ordering parts to recreate one of your builds. Does it matter if I choose windows 10 or 11?
windows 11 looks nicer and has bettter game optimizations but 10 will work fine 😊
No not at all windows 10s just runs games better and has more cpu support
Supposedly, we have less than 2 years of security updates to windows 10 remaining. That's something to consider as well.
Thanks guys
@@Galahad269 btw windows 12 is supposed to come out in june
I have 64GB of system ram in my computer and it does come in handy when I have a ton of tabs open. I've seen task manager saying over 32GB of ram is being used when I've had a ton of tabs open so yes it does make sense to have 64GB of system ram. Also I knew Windows 11 Pro supported atleast 1TB of system ram but I didn't know it actually supported upto 2TB of system ram.
32g is the new 16
this is really sad 37,000$ PC newest hardware getting 60-120FPS at 4k ultra .... not much better then a PS5 or Xbox for performance .. wth i swear they just kneecapped PC,s nowadays
Thats some high iq research there mate?
@@aeroflopper Is that suppose to be an insult or a question? You can look up what I said but I really don't think I'm wrong.
@LiquidSnake690 sorry no, I was hoping you had come across the streamer that says its high iq research when you have 15 tabs open, sorry if you think i was having a pop, thats what wrong with the internet everybody thinks you having a go?
3 weeks later, and Threadripper has been revived :D
Its hard to imagine this computer is 1/4 the value of my vehicle.
It's like 2.5 times the value of mine😂
running lower than 144fps in fortnite with this build is crazy
@toastybros Hey toasty bros I have a question on what mother board my gaming pc tower can use its a aura tower and says it’s a mid tower but I want to make sure I get the right mother broard for gaming. I need to upgrade it to have a new motherboard that can support gaming ram sticks
Here’s my pc tower GAMDIAS ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer PC Case with Side Tempered Glass, 4X 120mm ARGB Case Fans and Sync with 5V RGB Motherboard and Excellent Airflow
this is the DEFINITION of price to performance
I need it for homework mom
$37,000 for a gaming pc that gets the same fps as a $1000 laptop/gaming pc is a little insane.
2:02 NVIDIA A100? (40GB of VRAM, can be optimised for gaming)
Minecraft with infinite rendering and the 40x texture pack with shaders will bring this thing to its knees.
This PC is worth maybe 7,000 realistically. PC parts are always 5x the price though so.
Yous are buying really expensive pcs when im trying to buy a 500 pound gaming pc haha but keep up the great content
This shit should have 4 4090 gpu cause wtf that for 37k ?
Me and my roomie we're bored one time looking at PC parts and we basically built this rig on paper lol
Bro really called out Jonah like that with the car
Why wouldn't you test City Skylines 2? It's optimized to use all available cores, which would use all of these cores.
Using an AMD EPYC for gaming is already insane by itself
a good model with high clock and single core high cpu-z score, note these.
when you dont leave the house who needs a car lol
what kind of work station computer only has one storage device? what about storage redundancy in the buisness model?
Did it absolutely foul hooking that beauty up to an acer monitor 💀
Dad I need it for homework
I would love the torrent mini for a regular gaming pc
that storage is criminal for its price
I'll have to sell a lot of plasma. I get $480 a month. How many years would I have to sell plasma in order to buy this PC? 😂
Something is off there, I get higher FPS than that on a 7900xtx with a 5950 on halo 10:07
I think the shelves n the back are about to collapse, pretty decently bowed top shelf
How much did it cost ? You didn't mention it much.
Cant wait till this is $500 on Ebay in 10 years!
Wouldn't a better test of those two CPUs in gaming have been running games at max settings at 1080p rather than 4K?
14:57 hah, nothing like emoting on an AI
wow. finally a pc that might have a chance of running Starfield smoothly
I want to see it run cut skyline too because it makes the best computers struggle at high settings
Theres actually 24 RAM DIMMS not 16.
He can’t count 😂
Yeah, but how much did it cost?
You have a high budget build, but how about a no budget build like literally zero to at max $50?
I was asking myself if spent too much on my Ryzen 9 7950X3D @ 4.2Ghz, Gigabyte GeForce RTX4090 Windforce V2, 64gb Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR5-5600 ram, ASUS Prime X670-P ATX AM5 Motherboard with it's case and some other goodies along with the 49" ultrawide and now I can say no. No, I did not spend too much. The best part is in a few years I'll still be able to sell the CPU for a pretty descent price and upgrade it to finally stop bottlenecking the 4090.
$37000 and u get spaghetti cables.. no thanks.😂😂
Might build this pc for my budget build thanks for the inspiration👍🏽
You should've tried this at 1080p where the cpu would have to do the most work
will be a refurb in a few years - look at it that way
2080super with frameGEN ?
My 4090 pc briefly hit 1200 fps for a second or so while in a game menu and I almost crapped myself! I capped it in windows right after that.