@Bat Bat You know that there is actually quite a lot of exploration in Eternal? Especially if you look for secrets, upgrades etc. I'm actually glad how 2016 and Eternal turned out.
If you'll remember the original Idea for the DOOM Eternak DLC was "2 stand alone stories of how Earth fell". Even before it there was concepts in the Art of DOOM Eternal to have DLC from the perspective of Human Soldiers or Sentinels. We were meant to see ARC Soldiers standing their ground through our gameplay of the campaign. It was requested to have Human Ally NPCs in some way whether it would be through extraction missions of survivors or simply having followers with you during your missions. But they replaced it with "DOOMGUY MAY BE A THREAT TO CIVILIANS STAY AWAY". If you remember, the F.E.A.R Franchise really nailed it home with the concept of using Mechs and Soldiers. The DLC could have been about the super gore nest and how it was when they tried to take it out and how they failed, Or it could take place alongside the slayer's story. Maybe the DLC protaginist is a couple of blocks away on his own mission and you see the Super Gore Nest blow up and Intercome comes in and states there is Slayer Activity near the nest and he blew it up. So many cool ideas scrapped.
@@trager8933 It's not elitism. Doom 3 and Doom Eternal are very different than Doom 1 or 2, that's a fact. If this is enough to trigger a defensive response from you you've got some serious confidence issues.
If you'll remember the original Idea for the DOOM Eternal DLC was "2 stand alone stories of how Earth fell". Even before it there was concepts in the Art of DOOM Eternal to have DLC from the perspective of Human Soldiers or Sentinels. We were meant to see ARC Soldiers standing their ground through our gameplay of the campaign. It was requested to have Human Ally NPCs in some way whether it would be through extraction missions of survivors or simply having followers with you during your missions. But they replaced it with "DOOMGUY MAY BE A THREAT TO CIVILIANS STAY AWAY". If you remember, the F.E.A.R Franchise really nailed it home with the concept of using Mechs and Soldiers. The DLC could have been about the super gore nest and how it was when they tried to take it out and how they failed, Or it could take place alongside the slayer's story. Maybe the DLC protaginist is a couple of blocks away on his own mission and you see the Super Gore Nest blow up and Intercome comes in and states there is Slayer Activity near the nest and he blew it up. So many cool ideas scrapped
@Zoomer Waffen wtf? you wanna play as a fucking wimpy ass soldier barely kill an imp, or even a zombie for that fact... or doom slayer, ripping and tearing away, cyberdemons, doom hunters and marauders...
What could be a neat idea is for this to take place in between Doom and Eternal and the slayer being the one to save all these characters as he fends off the hoards of demons. Along with showing his compassionate and remorsefulness side towards the people since they aren't strong enough to deal against even the most weakest of demons. The Slayer, despite being the embodiment of Armageddon and the Executioner of all of Hells Demons, does his best to ensure the safety and morality of the survivors and wishes them to escape the doomed city in one peace. To him, he may have lost his only friend (Daisy) but he will ensure that nobody will endure the same pain and loneliness that he has felt all those years ago and will do everything in his power to eradicate every single demons that dares step foot into his existence.
I was thinking the same thing ! This game could be like a prequel to DooM Eternal. Where we play as a survivor of the demon invasion, where we will have to join Arc and participate in operation Hell Breaker lead by Dr. Samuel Hayden.
I really like this idea, and I enjoy your open-mindedness. Most other comments are just shitting on Doom 4 as a concept. Though, I would still like to see some variety in the Doom franchise, (see my comment for my opinion), It would be super cool to play as a regular human who (like most humans), has trouble killing the demons that Doom Slayer and slice through like butter. Consider this, you're just a regular marine, you live through the decimation of Hell's invasion on Earth. As a survivor, you and your squad try to hold your line as best you can. Bit by bit, as more of your squad falls, things are looking grim, and you only have a few squadmates left. Suddenly, A Hulk of a dude, clad in thick green armour emerges from over a pile of rubble and slays the mass of demons that would've otherwise been your demise. As the story progresses, Doom Slayer pops in when things aren't looking so hot. I think this could add the compassionate side of Doom Slayer that we have yet to see, and from the perspective of a lowly human, this could give you, the player, a 1st hand view of "Oh wow, he's more of a human than we thought. He actually has feelings besides just anger and frustration".
@@sc0rpi0nspoison yes ! This is what I'm talking about ! Most other a$$holes that shit on this Doom prototype didn't care for any of this, they only thought of the gameplay and not the story ! They are a bunch of BOOMERS with John Carmak's (sorry if I spelled it wrong) thinking ! e.i. - story in game is like story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not important - Like seriously ? It's the 21st century ! Story in a game is a very important aspect ! It's what makes the game intriguing !
If you'll remember the original Idea for the DOOM Eternal DLC was "2 stand alone stories of how Earth fell". Even before it there was concepts in the Art of DOOM Eternal to have DLC from the perspective of Human Soldiers or Sentinels. We were meant to see ARC Soldiers standing their ground through our gameplay of the campaign. It was requested to have Human Ally NPCs in some way whether it would be through extraction missions of survivors or simply having followers with you during your missions. But they replaced it with "DOOMGUY MAY BE A THREAT TO CIVILIANS STAY AWAY". If you remember, the F.E.A.R Franchise really nailed it home with the concept of using Mechs and Soldiers. The DLC could have been about the super gore nest and how it was when they tried to take it out and how they failed, Or it could take place alongside the slayer's story. Maybe the DLC protaginist is a couple of blocks away on his own mission and you see the Super Gore Nest blow up and Intercome comes in and states there is Slayer Activity near the nest and he blew it up. So many cool ideas scrapped
I would love something like this after Eternal. You hear a decent amount about the resistance trying to hold out and survive while the Slayer makes work of hell's armies. It would be cool to see and play their side and see their perspective of the invasion and the Doom Slayer himself. Imagine being a scared, frail human and hearing about some sort of God that comes to Earth and saves everyone from hell itself and you see the aftermath of his power and rage. It would be cool to see.
@@justabrokezombie6252 i actually get that, but the multiplayer gameplay looked actually bad, the hud was messy, and they would show this gameplay in e3... they could've shown gameplay with some great graphics...
If you'll remember the original Idea for the DOOM Eternal DLC was "2 stand alone stories of how Earth fell". Even before it there was concepts in the Art of DOOM Eternal to have DLC from the perspective of Human Soldiers or Sentinels. We were meant to see ARC Soldiers standing their ground through our gameplay of the campaign. It was requested to have Human Ally NPCs in some way whether it would be through extraction missions of survivors or simply having followers with you during your missions. But they replaced it with "DOOMGUY MAY BE A THREAT TO CIVILIANS STAY AWAY". If you remember, the F.E.A.R Franchise really nailed it home with the concept of using Mechs and Soldiers. The DLC could have been about the super gore nest and how it was when they tried to take it out and how they failed, Or it could take place alongside the slayer's story. Maybe the DLC protaginist is a couple of blocks away on his own mission and you see the Super Gore Nest blow up and Intercome comes in and states there is Slayer Activity near the nest and he blew it up. So many cool ideas scrapped
The id, pronounced the way it looks, is one of the three parts of the subconscious in Freudian psychology where instinctive impulses originate, forming the most base human desires
@Tw1st3dG4m3r true true, although very linear and closed spaced, and use of the annoying flashlight. I still really enjoyed and it's the most LONGEST DOOM game I've played.
Release the Game as a spin off titled "Doom on Earth". Keep the story of regular humans fighting off the demons that would be a nice P.O.V to explore...and in the end DoomGuy comes to the rescue
This sound like an amazing game... but I'm not sure this game is Doom. I hope they will released slighlty changed version of this under the different name.
Perhaps they could release it as a game about the survivors that founded the ARC. That way, they could still tie it to Doom like they had planned, but have a justification for why it's so different from other Doom games. Kinda like what Star Wars did with Rogue One
Probably what's referred to as the "Daughter" in this canceled games' OST (i.e. "Daughter of the Mother Demon"? "Daughter of Hell"? Idk). Honestly I hope the Mother Demon from DOOM 64 makes an appearance in The Ancient Gods -- Part Two, that would be sick. It would be awesome to fight her as well, ofc xD Also, this "DOOM 4" seems like an interesting idea for a DLC or something (Internguy's backstory? xD) like others have been saying in this CS :p (And yes, I loved DOOM 3 and it's DLCs. And I love the other DOOMs, too!
Well in my perspective it doesn't look like one. It seems to be just another high ranking demon which for humans, is a boss fight. But for Doom Slayer it's just another high ranking demon that he will rip and tear. I think a mother demon or daughter of hell must be more intimidating, stronger, etc. It must be able to give a hard fight with the slayer if it is the daughter of hell or mother demon. This one just looks like a big demon that for humans, it is a boss fight, but for slayer's punches, IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE.
The Resistance and The Demons tracks sounds pretty good ngl, and honestly I'd love to see a spin-off or DLC of what happened to Earth during the invasion while the Doomslayer was "trapped" on *F.O.D.*
That animation seems to be the same one as the 2016 imp death where it would rip your insides out and slap you, turns out they kept that one in as well.
You know, it doesn't look bad at all. It's the same case with the DmC reboot, it just doesn't feel that it deserves the Doom name. Of it had any other name, i.e. "The absolution" or something on the nose like "Inferno in Terra", it could've sold well
If you'll remember the original Idea for the DOOM Eternal DLC was "2 stand alone stories of how Earth fell". Even before it there was concepts in the Art of DOOM Eternal to have DLC from the perspective of Human Soldiers or Sentinels. We were meant to see ARC Soldiers standing their ground through our gameplay of the campaign. It was requested to have Human Ally NPCs in some way whether it would be through extraction missions of survivors or simply having followers with you during your missions. But they replaced it with "DOOMGUY MAY BE A THREAT TO CIVILIANS STAY AWAY". If you remember, the F.E.A.R Franchise really nailed it home with the concept of using Mechs and Soldiers. The DLC could have been about the super gore nest and how it was when they tried to take it out and how they failed, Or it could take place alongside the slayer's story. Maybe the DLC protaginist is a couple of blocks away on his own mission and you see the Super Gore Nest blow up and Intercome comes in and states there is Slayer Activity near the nest and he blew it up. So many cool ideas scrapped
@@Hostilethreat Bruh, imagine if they had a horde mode be set with ARC soldiers, where you have to team up with friends to defend a point or something. That's what it made me think of, and it sounds kinda rad.
@@norrecvizharan1177 My dude there is literally concept art for that. Its in the art of doom eternal it shows the icon of sin emerging and the Sentinels dying off one by one. If you link your email i can send it. It would be so cool having that as an ending for the ARC based DLCs. Theres dead ARC soldiers in the super gore nest level, imagine if in the dlc you get swarmed by the demons and you and your team are fighting them off as more and more spawn in and the camera slowly fades to black and the dlc ends. Implying you and your team died off fighting an army of demons and when you find their bodies in the super gore nest level you see them and it matches the story
Would be cool to give DOOM Eternal a DLC from the resistances perspective maybe, but you'd probably have to kill them off or something, can't have people forgetting it's about the Doom Slayer.
Would have loved it, when I played Doom and Doom 2 this is what i imagined ... one of the reasons I gave Doom 3 so much time, the previously abstract told story got more concrete. I even played Quake1 at a slow pace and tried to soak up the story and atmosphere, completely unaware of its fast paced multiplayer potential.
I think cancelling this was the best option. Also, It is quite awesome they cancelled It but started working in 2016 DOOM, instead of just letting the franchise rot like many other developers would. After Doom 3 (Great game but not so great Doom game) this now canceled Doom project would definitively be a death sentence to the franchise.
To be honest, from the footage I saw... that "blinking" imp would've been a really fun enemy to fight. I really like the more creative enemies with weird patterns, movements, behaviors and attacks. The Archvile is probably my favorite Doom demon, so seeing them explore different ideas (while not necessarily revolutionary or ground-breaking, it's something rarely done) would've been nice. I kinda wish someone leaked that latest 'nearly alpha stage' build so we could check it out for ourselves. And the multiplayer clip shows PVP mixed with demons on the map, so it could've been interesting as well.
Not gonna lie man, after the major successes of Doom 2016 and Eternal, I absolutely would not mind a spin off game in this fashion. I think it should take place during the events of Doom Eternal. You'll see the more human side of the fight. Playing as an unnamed silent protagonist fighting for ARC. Would be even more epic if there were points during the game where you could see the Slayer just obliterating Demons off in the distance. And, much like a Spartan does in Halo, you'll notice a significant morale boost amongst your peers after witnessing one man giving the Demons actual *HELL*
I bought Doom 3 when it released and loved it. Doom 2016 remake was too quake-y for my taste and never beat it. I recently bought Doom eternal and love it. It still has that arena shooter game design though but I miss the narrative focused Doom that Doom 3 introduced.
This would be great as a coop horror game. You try to survive while earth is overrun by demons and you have to work together to kill normal enemies. As doom slayer it's no problem taking them out, but as a mere normal human you have to work with 3 other people, maybe even with different classes and skills. Kinda like Left 4 Dead but a little bit more horror, more feeling of weakness.
John Romero just pressed dislike button for the incorrect pronunciation of "id Software". The video is good though. Hope this doom one day will work out as a spin off or a sequel to doom 3(have no idea what's going with canon history in doom series with this reboot). But damn this installment is somewhere in between rage and doom like games.
As glad I am the direction they took with current Doom a part me is still curious what the other game was gonna be like. I'm sure if it had a different name it would've been good or at least decent, I mean one thing I never cared about CoD like games is the more grounded approach and since this one had demons I would've been fine with it.
That kind of game could still work as a spin off, even have the slayer himself appear in the game as you fight demons slowly and see him rip them apart in seconds
I think what would happen is that The Ancient Gods P2 would be released. Then after, a game recycling doom 4 assets will come out highlighting the events between Doom and Doom Eternal. Whether you play as a guy other than Doom Slayer (like Halo Reach has you play as someone else other than Master Chief) or a random survivor will be worked out later. I'm going to go with random survivor for this one. Then finally in a full game of Doom 3 (not 2004) will come out.
I was hoping Doom Eternal was gonna have more of a Hell on Earth aesthetic like this concept. Really wanted more Earth levels and interaction with civilians. Crowded fights in city centers as the slayer as demons invade would be amazing
I would love to see a doom game from the survivor perspective, maybe something like subnautica where the player's character was completely mute with not a whole lot of story unless you read a lot of the pdas but for a mini sequal, like below zero where the main character is fully voiced, has their own personality and there's a more story driven arc with similar gameplay
Thank God this didn't come out when it did. But now since the series is alive and well, I would love to see this game come out as a spin-off/prequel of sorts telling the story of the Earth's demise before the Doom Slayer came back in Doom Eternal.
I wouldn't have been excited. Military shooters have been so common over the last couple of decades that it doesn't look like it would bring anything unique compared to the offerings already available. We already have games where we fight aliens, ghosts, zombies and many other supernatural beings, demons wouldn't be a draw in and of themselves and nothing else was standing out from the fottage that came out. The doom 2016 we got was the perfect blend of old and new which saw it stand out from everything else at the time. Gameplay first, everything else is just gravy. So glad they stripped it right back and built from the ground up. Doom eternal leant even more into the structure laid out before and still keeps itself unique when compared to other current shooters. ID made the right choices and I'm so glad it paid off for them.
I like how Doom Eternal Kind of acknowledges this through ARC Radio stations where we get to hear people fighting for their lives while also believing the slayer will come to save the day. This could be a decent canonical spin off title ngl like Halo OSDT some what,sure its CODish like but it be interesting to play as a human survivor fighting demons with little to no powerups nor a power armor to back them up.
Honestly, wish they would do like a small mini-spinoff for Doom Eternal using this story, where you play as another Marine on Earth fighting back the demons, but also be able to see like, Doomslayer running around in the background, but unreachable. It's like Half Life having crossovers with itself in Decay/Blue Shift/Opposing Force.
Given doom eternal radio chatter at the intro, as well as hearing of the ARC losing the city to the gore nest....I'd love to see that from the humans' perspective
I prefer the doom we got way more, but I would’ve liked to play this. It is playable so they could finish it up and release it in 2022 to hold us over for the next doom slayer game.
They should tweak it a bit and change the protagonist to ARC Soldier or something. Doom Eternal but in different perspective. I wanna see how crazy Doom Slayer is in regular Joe perspective.
If it had a similar playstyle to Eternal, and told the story of the ARC/Resistance between 2016 and Eternal, as a soldier following Hayden, leading directly into the Slayers return to Earth...hell yes.
I am happy that they went for another direction for Doom rather than this. But now I'm kinda interested in the story of this cancelled Doom ! Maybe they turn this cancelled game into like a prequel spin-off to DOOM Eternal. Where it tells the story of what happened between 2016 and Eternal, how did the demons invaded earth ? What happened before the Slayer's arrival ? How did Dr. Samuel Hayden fall in operation Hell Breaker ? Hence why we would be playing as a normal human who's a survivor during the invasion. But then the gameplay might suck, idk... I have mixed feelings for this.
The doom prototype would be really cool for the civilian view of the demon invasion not the doom slayer's or it could be another game entire with different lore etc
id is pronounced as one word, like “did” without the first d. It’s a part of your brain, which is what the studio’s name is inspired by. The id makes you act on your impulses and carries out fundamental processes.
Id Software can still revive this project in some shape or form you know. If they want to that is. They can just make this game set in between the events of DOOM (2016) and DOOM Eternal or something. But told in the perspective of a survivor on earth during its invasion of Hell.
this definitly be a good doom spinoff. your a character without doom guy skills fighting the demon invasion. basically odst to the halo spartan where your smaller, slower, weaker and weapons are scavenged on the battlefield. they can even play it that your in the same fights as doom guy so your witnessing his destruction first hand and realize why the demons fear him. also you could actually make the heavy demons to real boss fights and smaller soldier demons actually a threat.
It would be great spin off series having normal humans fight demons trying to hold on to what's left of earth until the doom slayer can arrive to save the humans.
The "SICK MELEE" system could be an amazing addition to the next doom game except no blocking, no dodging just a straight up brawl against gigantic Demons and the Demons can't attack and if the do they get their limbs blown off with a parry.
I think this version should be released as a side story to Doom Eternal, because we know the resistance is part of the lore in Doom Eternal. Also, the monsters and weapons, as mentioned do seem extremely similar to all we see in Doom 2016 and Eternal.
3:51 ''sadly, the game has been cancelled'' I wouldnt call it sad, its a good thing it got rebooted into what it is now. The developers were right when they said this looked more like ''Call of Doom''.
Kinda a shame we didn't get this game. It might not have revived the franchise like the one we got did, but I feel like this still would be pretty awesome as a spin-off
If you got one of Bethesda’s other devs - like MachineGames - to make this as a short, no-filler spin-off told from the perspective of some ordinary human then sure. As long as ID Software still make a true fully-fledged sequel too.
I certainly think it would have been a neat idea however it wouldn't be fitting for a Doom game. I'm very pleased with how retail Doom 4 and later Doom 5 (Doom Eternal) decided to throw the modern Call of Duty style of shooting out entirely, in favor of bringing Doom back to its roots and making Doom, Doom-ey again. It's a shame a lot of the material got scrapped but I think it was worth it for Doom. I think a lot of what was scrapped could make for an interesting Rage 3 as it more akin to Rage than anything else. Using it as a base for Rage 3, Rage 3 could take place during the demonic invasion of earth from Doom Eternal further connecting both series of games, or it could take place during the early meteor strike of the first game as a prequel. I don't think Rage turned out real great but there was a lot of potential for it, which is why I think so many people including myself were let down by Rage.
I thought it was the short-haired girl seen several times in the trailer leading the resistance, I assumed she was the daughter of either Augustus or Bradley. Since the track comes right after The Resistance, I assumed it's a scene where you meet her. It could also be the name of the giant demon that breathes fire in the gameplay demo.
It would probably be something very similar to rage. it actually makes sense why doom eternal and doom 2016 were not a single game, since they had already wasted alot of time rebooting the game they were probably short on $ and time to make a single game so ID decided to make 2 games out of 1.
This can easily be done now since we know that there are alternate realities in the Doom universe. This could be the slayers reality and a consequence of him being put to rest at the end of The Ancient gods. Without a slayer in that universe the demons wreak havoc on earth, but there are some humans that are defenders that have high potential to become a slayer, so they fight off the demons until the return of the slayer. Plus id has been dying to make a co op multiplayer campaign for Doom, I can see this actually happening.
![Unreleased DOOM 4 [cancelled] & DOOM 2016 Development Gameplay](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Uvb04gU_UmU/mqdefault.jpg)
![Unreleased DOOM 4 [cancelled] & DOOM 2016 Development Gameplay](/img/tr.png)
"It probably would have sold well, I would have bought a copy
and lamented the death of a franchise I once loved."
-Civvie11
So glad this is tye first comment i saw
Bet it would be a 10/10 IGN
correct
@Bat Bat uh what
@Bat Bat You know that there is actually quite a lot of exploration in Eternal? Especially if you look for secrets, upgrades etc. I'm actually glad how 2016 and Eternal turned out.
I would've loved to have played this "Doom 3: ODST".
😆😆😆 yea lol
Love it
If you'll remember the original Idea for the DOOM Eternak DLC was "2 stand alone stories of how Earth fell". Even before it there was concepts in the Art of DOOM Eternal to have DLC from the perspective of Human Soldiers or Sentinels. We were meant to see ARC Soldiers standing their ground through our gameplay of the campaign. It was requested to have Human Ally NPCs in some way whether it would be through extraction missions of survivors or simply having followers with you during your missions. But they replaced it with "DOOMGUY MAY BE A THREAT TO CIVILIANS STAY AWAY". If you remember, the F.E.A.R Franchise really nailed it home with the concept of using Mechs and Soldiers. The DLC could have been about the super gore nest and how it was when they tried to take it out and how they failed, Or it could take place alongside the slayer's story. Maybe the DLC protaginist is a couple of blocks away on his own mission and you see the Super Gore Nest blow up and Intercome comes in and states there is Slayer Activity near the nest and he blew it up. So many cool ideas scrapped.
Anyone know where this information is being sourced from? I'd love to read up on the characters and scenario, as well as see these enemy designs.
Cost was fucking awesome don't compare it to trash
This is just Doom Eternal, but in UAC/ARC & reguler Army perspective.
Exactly
And before the demons invades earth and consuming entire world.
@@ahmadrizqi6366 before, during and after
And this is part of the lore. We know that Doom Slayer gets messages from the resistance during the main campaign.
Except the game looks nothing like Doom
“Sadly, in late 2011 the game had been cancelled.”
And DOOM fans rejoiced across the world, for their series had averted its extinction.
Look at me here intrigued about this project and enjoying their material as a "DOOM" fan.
doom died long ago with doom 3
@@Gregzenegair Lol all these elitists defending old school doom and new doom like Its made out of gold by the gods.
@@trager8933 It's not elitism. Doom 3 and Doom Eternal are very different than Doom 1 or 2, that's a fact. If this is enough to trigger a defensive response from you you've got some serious confidence issues.
@DangerDark817 He never said it was a bad game, he said that Doom games starting from 3 aren't like old Doom games. Doom 3 killed old Doom.
id software now building a Doom universe, if they want they can make a side story with ARC.
If you'll remember the original Idea for the DOOM Eternal DLC was "2 stand alone stories of how Earth fell". Even before it there was concepts in the Art of DOOM Eternal to have DLC from the perspective of Human Soldiers or Sentinels. We were meant to see ARC Soldiers standing their ground through our gameplay of the campaign. It was requested to have Human Ally NPCs in some way whether it would be through extraction missions of survivors or simply having followers with you during your missions. But they replaced it with "DOOMGUY MAY BE A THREAT TO CIVILIANS STAY AWAY". If you remember, the F.E.A.R Franchise really nailed it home with the concept of using Mechs and Soldiers. The DLC could have been about the super gore nest and how it was when they tried to take it out and how they failed, Or it could take place alongside the slayer's story. Maybe the DLC protaginist is a couple of blocks away on his own mission and you see the Super Gore Nest blow up and Intercome comes in and states there is Slayer Activity near the nest and he blew it up. So many cool ideas scrapped
@@Hostilethreat You are reminding me of HL:Opposing Force and HL:Blueshift with those descriptions.
@@dileepvr it should also remind you of the GTA IV Trilogy where the main characters from the DLCs see eachother in missions
@@Hostilethreat And then Trevor kills one of them in V lol
@@alexsilva28 yep bad writers, if they would've kept him alive he could've came back in the Biker DLC as a mentor type of person instead if Malc
Origin story for internguy.
You just sold this game
It crossed my mind, that doom eternal actually had almost same theme and same story, but simplified
@Zoomer Waffen wtf? you wanna play as a fucking wimpy ass soldier barely kill an imp, or even a zombie for that fact... or doom slayer, ripping and tearing away, cyberdemons, doom hunters and marauders...
@Zoomer Waffen too bad i'm not a moderator :(
@Zoomer Waffen but still have big brain than you :)
@Zoomer Waffen Dumbed down? Have you even read the lore pages?
Simplified at first but once you sit back and read about the lore pages.....it is not
What could be a neat idea is for this to take place in between Doom and Eternal and the slayer being the one to save all these characters as he fends off the hoards of demons. Along with showing his compassionate and remorsefulness side towards the people since they aren't strong enough to deal against even the most weakest of demons.
The Slayer, despite being the embodiment of Armageddon and the Executioner of all of Hells Demons, does his best to ensure the safety and morality of the survivors and wishes them to escape the doomed city in one peace. To him, he may have lost his only friend (Daisy) but he will ensure that nobody will endure the same pain and loneliness that he has felt all those years ago and will do everything in his power to eradicate every single demons that dares step foot into his existence.
I was thinking the same thing ! This game could be like a prequel to DooM Eternal. Where we play as a survivor of the demon invasion, where we will have to join Arc and participate in operation Hell Breaker lead by Dr. Samuel Hayden.
your pfp is kinda familiar
I really like this idea, and I enjoy your open-mindedness. Most other comments are just shitting on Doom 4 as a concept. Though, I would still like to see some variety in the Doom franchise, (see my comment for my opinion), It would be super cool to play as a regular human who (like most humans), has trouble killing the demons that Doom Slayer and slice through like butter.
Consider this, you're just a regular marine, you live through the decimation of Hell's invasion on Earth. As a survivor, you and your squad try to hold your line as best you can. Bit by bit, as more of your squad falls, things are looking grim, and you only have a few squadmates left. Suddenly, A Hulk of a dude, clad in thick green armour emerges from over a pile of rubble and slays the mass of demons that would've otherwise been your demise. As the story progresses, Doom Slayer pops in when things aren't looking so hot.
I think this could add the compassionate side of Doom Slayer that we have yet to see, and from the perspective of a lowly human, this could give you, the player, a 1st hand view of "Oh wow, he's more of a human than we thought. He actually has feelings besides just anger and frustration".
@@sc0rpi0nspoison yes ! This is what I'm talking about ! Most other a$$holes that shit on this Doom prototype didn't care for any of this, they only thought of the gameplay and not the story ! They are a bunch of BOOMERS with John Carmak's (sorry if I spelled it wrong) thinking ! e.i. - story in game is like story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not important -
Like seriously ? It's the 21st century ! Story in a game is a very important aspect ! It's what makes the game intriguing !
If you'll remember the original Idea for the DOOM Eternal DLC was "2 stand alone stories of how Earth fell". Even before it there was concepts in the Art of DOOM Eternal to have DLC from the perspective of Human Soldiers or Sentinels. We were meant to see ARC Soldiers standing their ground through our gameplay of the campaign. It was requested to have Human Ally NPCs in some way whether it would be through extraction missions of survivors or simply having followers with you during your missions. But they replaced it with "DOOMGUY MAY BE A THREAT TO CIVILIANS STAY AWAY". If you remember, the F.E.A.R Franchise really nailed it home with the concept of using Mechs and Soldiers. The DLC could have been about the super gore nest and how it was when they tried to take it out and how they failed, Or it could take place alongside the slayer's story. Maybe the DLC protaginist is a couple of blocks away on his own mission and you see the Super Gore Nest blow up and Intercome comes in and states there is Slayer Activity near the nest and he blew it up. So many cool ideas scrapped
I would love something like this after Eternal. You hear a decent amount about the resistance trying to hold out and survive while the Slayer makes work of hell's armies. It would be cool to see and play their side and see their perspective of the invasion and the Doom Slayer himself. Imagine being a scared, frail human and hearing about some sort of God that comes to Earth and saves everyone from hell itself and you see the aftermath of his power and rage. It would be cool to see.
I legit thought the first few seconds were a crappy mobile game
ikr. the multiplayer gameplay hud almost looked like a shitty mobile game which could have microtransactions, lol.
@@dishshammy6985 yeo
The game is in development stage, of course the graphics looked bad !!! Don't judge a book by its cover !!!
@@justabrokezombie6252 i actually get that, but the multiplayer gameplay looked actually bad, the hud was messy, and they would show this gameplay in e3... they could've shown gameplay with some great graphics...
HAME
"eye-Dee software"
Is someone going to tell him?
Tell what?
@@Anakin_1234 Its pronounced id like the word, not id like the acronym
Yup xD
@@zachzorlac9839 id is a word? didn't know that, i have no idea how it pronounce then
@@Anakin_1234 I'd (maybe)
If you'll remember the original Idea for the DOOM Eternal DLC was "2 stand alone stories of how Earth fell". Even before it there was concepts in the Art of DOOM Eternal to have DLC from the perspective of Human Soldiers or Sentinels. We were meant to see ARC Soldiers standing their ground through our gameplay of the campaign. It was requested to have Human Ally NPCs in some way whether it would be through extraction missions of survivors or simply having followers with you during your missions. But they replaced it with "DOOMGUY MAY BE A THREAT TO CIVILIANS STAY AWAY". If you remember, the F.E.A.R Franchise really nailed it home with the concept of using Mechs and Soldiers. The DLC could have been about the super gore nest and how it was when they tried to take it out and how they failed, Or it could take place alongside the slayer's story. Maybe the DLC protaginist is a couple of blocks away on his own mission and you see the Super Gore Nest blow up and Intercome comes in and states there is Slayer Activity near the nest and he blew it up. So many cool ideas scrapped
The id, pronounced the way it looks, is one of the three parts of the subconscious in Freudian psychology where instinctive impulses originate, forming the most base human desires
I am so glad Call of Doomy did not happen.
It looks nothing like Call of Duty.
@@NToniiiii Yes it does...
@@NToniiiii it dose, it completely reminds of COD
@@Hateful_Rex If you kill demons, then it's not COD
@@IronThumbs but if you kill zombies, then it's a COD zombie
They should have made this an alternative universe for variety
@Tw1st3dG4m3r Doom 3 is Awesome
@Tw1st3dG4m3r true true, although very linear and closed spaced, and use of the annoying flashlight. I still really enjoyed and it's the most LONGEST DOOM game I've played.
@Tw1st3dG4m3r Yeah I wish they made it shoulder-mounted, gave alot of trial and errors but, it's still an AWESOME game.
Waste tons of money and kill the franchise
@TwistedGamer I would love to see Doom 3 redone with a modern engine. Sadly I haven't enough knowledgement to do it all by myself.
This has happened to almost every id game. Original Doom, Quake, etc were all planned to be super story focused and went the gameplay route instead.
True.
And we thought doom 4 would be like call of duty.
khaleed al asad
Release the Game as a spin off titled "Doom on Earth". Keep the story of regular humans fighting off the demons that would be a nice P.O.V to explore...and in the end DoomGuy comes to the rescue
This sound like an amazing game... but I'm not sure this game is Doom. I hope they will released slighlty changed version of this under the different name.
Yeah i too actually wanted to try this out
Rage?
Its more like gears of war.
That’s how I like to describe doom 3, it’s great, but not doom at all
Perhaps they could release it as a game about the survivors that founded the ARC. That way, they could still tie it to Doom like they had planned, but have a justification for why it's so different from other Doom games. Kinda like what Star Wars did with Rogue One
I’d honestly love to see this as a spinoff. Playing as normal soldiers or civilians trying to survive
3:01 - Is that the Mother Demon?!
Probably what's referred to as the "Daughter" in this canceled games' OST (i.e. "Daughter of the Mother Demon"? "Daughter of Hell"? Idk). Honestly I hope the Mother Demon from DOOM 64 makes an appearance in The Ancient Gods -- Part Two, that would be sick. It would be awesome to fight her as well, ofc xD
Also, this "DOOM 4" seems like an interesting idea for a DLC or something (Internguy's backstory? xD) like others have been saying in this CS :p
(And yes, I loved DOOM 3 and it's DLCs. And I love the other DOOMs, too!
Well in my perspective it doesn't look like one. It seems to be just another high ranking demon which for humans, is a boss fight. But for Doom Slayer it's just another high ranking demon that he will rip and tear. I think a mother demon or daughter of hell must be more intimidating, stronger, etc. It must be able to give a hard fight with the slayer if it is the daughter of hell or mother demon. This one just looks like a big demon that for humans, it is a boss fight, but for slayer's punches, IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE.
@@Srae17 True, that 👍👌✨
It does look like her.
The Resistance and The Demons tracks sounds pretty good ngl, and honestly I'd love to see a spin-off or DLC of what happened to Earth during the invasion while the Doomslayer was "trapped" on *F.O.D.*
Mick Gordon Making " The Resistance".
" Right so Y'all know A Perfect Circle...Right?"
This could easily be an add-on to eternal with a few changes
This would have been cool as a spin-off. A lot of good ideas here.
I am glad this got cancelled, this does not look like a Doom game at all and releasing it would hurt sales
I don't want to imagine a world without 2016 or Eternal
@@davesprivatelounge doesn't sound like a bad world to me though
@Robot Man since I have no interest in new Doom's, nay, I don't
2:45 I swear this is the same animation that the Revenant has at the end of the 2016 Doom reveal.
That animation seems to be the same one as the 2016 imp death where it would rip your insides out and slap you, turns out they kept that one in as well.
You know, it doesn't look bad at all. It's the same case with the DmC reboot, it just doesn't feel that it deserves the Doom name. Of it had any other name, i.e. "The absolution" or something on the nose like "Inferno in Terra", it could've sold well
Same, I'm not into CoD like games but throw in something like demons and you get my attention.
The DmC was hot garbage it was hated by almost everyone. Call of DOOM if it released would hit the nail in the coffin
@@Legion849 I think we already got that point across...
I want play this as a marine trying to survive the hell on earth invasion
I'm happy they didn't go through with doom 4
Everyone is.
If you'll remember the original Idea for the DOOM Eternal DLC was "2 stand alone stories of how Earth fell". Even before it there was concepts in the Art of DOOM Eternal to have DLC from the perspective of Human Soldiers or Sentinels. We were meant to see ARC Soldiers standing their ground through our gameplay of the campaign. It was requested to have Human Ally NPCs in some way whether it would be through extraction missions of survivors or simply having followers with you during your missions. But they replaced it with "DOOMGUY MAY BE A THREAT TO CIVILIANS STAY AWAY". If you remember, the F.E.A.R Franchise really nailed it home with the concept of using Mechs and Soldiers. The DLC could have been about the super gore nest and how it was when they tried to take it out and how they failed, Or it could take place alongside the slayer's story. Maybe the DLC protaginist is a couple of blocks away on his own mission and you see the Super Gore Nest blow up and Intercome comes in and states there is Slayer Activity near the nest and he blew it up. So many cool ideas scrapped
@@Hostilethreat Bruh, imagine if they had a horde mode be set with ARC soldiers, where you have to team up with friends to defend a point or something. That's what it made me think of, and it sounds kinda rad.
@@norrecvizharan1177 My dude there is literally concept art for that. Its in the art of doom eternal it shows the icon of sin emerging and the Sentinels dying off one by one. If you link your email i can send it. It would be so cool having that as an ending for the ARC based DLCs. Theres dead ARC soldiers in the super gore nest level, imagine if in the dlc you get swarmed by the demons and you and your team are fighting them off as more and more spawn in and the camera slowly fades to black and the dlc ends. Implying you and your team died off fighting an army of demons and when you find their bodies in the super gore nest level you see them and it matches the story
Would be cool to give DOOM Eternal a DLC from the resistances perspective maybe, but you'd probably have to kill them off or something, can't have people forgetting it's about the Doom Slayer.
Scrapped Doom 4: You're fighting to survive the demons' mayhem.
Actual Doom 4: The demons are fighting to survive your mayhem.
Would have loved it, when I played Doom and Doom 2 this is what i imagined ... one of the reasons I gave Doom 3 so much time, the previously abstract told story got more concrete. I even played Quake1 at a slow pace and tried to soak up the story and atmosphere, completely unaware of its fast paced multiplayer potential.
I think cancelling this was the best option. Also, It is quite awesome they cancelled It but started working in 2016 DOOM, instead of just letting the franchise rot like many other developers would. After Doom 3 (Great game but not so great Doom game) this now canceled Doom project would definitively be a death sentence to the franchise.
To be honest, from the footage I saw... that "blinking" imp would've been a really fun enemy to fight.
I really like the more creative enemies with weird patterns, movements, behaviors and attacks. The Archvile is probably my favorite Doom demon, so seeing them explore different ideas (while not necessarily revolutionary or ground-breaking, it's something rarely done) would've been nice.
I kinda wish someone leaked that latest 'nearly alpha stage' build so we could check it out for ourselves.
And the multiplayer clip shows PVP mixed with demons on the map, so it could've been interesting as well.
Not gonna lie man, after the major successes of Doom 2016 and Eternal, I absolutely would not mind a spin off game in this fashion. I think it should take place during the events of Doom Eternal. You'll see the more human side of the fight. Playing as an unnamed silent protagonist fighting for ARC. Would be even more epic if there were points during the game where you could see the Slayer just obliterating Demons off in the distance. And, much like a Spartan does in Halo, you'll notice a significant morale boost amongst your peers after witnessing one man giving the Demons actual *HELL*
I bought Doom 3 when it released and loved it. Doom 2016 remake was too quake-y for my taste and never beat it. I recently bought Doom eternal and love it. It still has that arena shooter game design though but I miss the narrative focused Doom that Doom 3 introduced.
I'm amazed at how good this looks in cinematics
This would be great as a coop horror game. You try to survive while earth is overrun by demons and you have to work together to kill normal enemies. As doom slayer it's no problem taking them out, but as a mere normal human you have to work with 3 other people, maybe even with different classes and skills. Kinda like Left 4 Dead but a little bit more horror, more feeling of weakness.
"Eye Dee" Software?
We talking about the same studio?
That really bothered me. I dunno why lol but it did.
That really stuck out to me . It's called ID software
@@Legion849 it's id software, not ID. ID is pronounced eye-dee. Easy to be wrong isn't it?
I used to call it I.D too but has since always referred it as “id”.
This could've been a Doom Spinoff called "Doomed"
John Romero just pressed dislike button for the incorrect pronunciation of "id Software". The video is good though. Hope this doom one day will work out as a spin off or a sequel to doom 3(have no idea what's going with canon history in doom series with this reboot). But damn this installment is somewhere in between rage and doom like games.
'The Resistance' is just The Outsider by A Perfect Circle.
As glad I am the direction they took with current Doom a part me is still curious what the other game was gonna be like. I'm sure if it had a different name it would've been good or at least decent, I mean one thing I never cared about CoD like games is the more grounded approach and since this one had demons I would've been fine with it.
just to save you future headaches
it's spelled "ID software" like "ed" or "it" not "Eye Dee software "
That kind of game could still work as a spin off, even have the slayer himself appear in the game as you fight demons slowly and see him rip them apart in seconds
I think what would happen is that The Ancient Gods P2 would be released.
Then after, a game recycling doom 4 assets will come out highlighting the events between Doom and Doom Eternal.
Whether you play as a guy other than Doom Slayer (like Halo Reach has you play as someone else other than Master Chief) or a random survivor will be worked out later. I'm going to go with random survivor for this one.
Then finally in a full game of Doom 3 (not 2004) will come out.
I was hoping Doom Eternal was gonna have more of a Hell on Earth aesthetic like this concept. Really wanted more Earth levels and interaction with civilians. Crowded fights in city centers as the slayer as demons invade would be amazing
I would love to see a doom game from the survivor perspective, maybe something like subnautica where the player's character was completely mute with not a whole lot of story unless you read a lot of the pdas but for a mini sequal, like below zero where the main character is fully voiced, has their own personality and there's a more story driven arc with similar gameplay
Thank God this didn't come out when it did. But now since the series is alive and well, I would love to see this game come out as a spin-off/prequel of sorts telling the story of the Earth's demise before the Doom Slayer came back in Doom Eternal.
If this came out as a side game, I'd buy it
I wouldn't have been excited. Military shooters have been so common over the last couple of decades that it doesn't look like it would bring anything unique compared to the offerings already available. We already have games where we fight aliens, ghosts, zombies and many other supernatural beings, demons wouldn't be a draw in and of themselves and nothing else was standing out from the fottage that came out. The doom 2016 we got was the perfect blend of old and new which saw it stand out from everything else at the time. Gameplay first, everything else is just gravy. So glad they stripped it right back and built from the ground up. Doom eternal leant even more into the structure laid out before and still keeps itself unique when compared to other current shooters. ID made the right choices and I'm so glad it paid off for them.
This game would be a great spin off, or even an extended universe kind of game. Same world, but a weaker character that has to overcome the odds.
I like how Doom Eternal Kind of acknowledges this through ARC Radio stations where we get to hear people fighting for their lives while also believing the slayer will come to save the day.
This could be a decent canonical spin off title ngl like Halo OSDT some what,sure its CODish like but it be interesting to play as a human survivor fighting demons with little to no powerups nor a power armor to back them up.
Honestly, wish they would do like a small mini-spinoff for Doom Eternal using this story, where you play as another Marine on Earth fighting back the demons, but also be able to see like, Doomslayer running around in the background, but unreachable. It's like Half Life having crossovers with itself in Decay/Blue Shift/Opposing Force.
Could have probably been a decent game, just a terrible Doom game. So glad we got DOOM 2016 instead.
Like F4
"Terrible Doom game". So according to you Doom 3 is a terrible Doom game, because this Doom 4 was supposed to be a follow up sequel.
@@Paperkutchy Yes, Doom 3 is dead compared to the other Doom games.
@@Paperkutchy Yes.
@@Paperkutchy Yes, yes it's a terrible doom game. An alright game but a terrible doom game.
Given doom eternal radio chatter at the intro, as well as hearing of the ARC losing the city to the gore nest....I'd love to see that from the humans' perspective
1:08 the Player was able to turn into a fat elderly Kevin Spacey at some Point.
I prefer the doom we got way more, but I would’ve liked to play this. It is playable so they could finish it up and release it in 2022 to hold us over for the next doom slayer game.
1:09 Kevin Spacey?
I would have enjoyed this game. Kind of a soft reboot of Doom 2.
Yeah I agree this is a great comment. I feel it should have more likes, but hey it's just me
They should tweak it a bit and change the protagonist to ARC Soldier or something. Doom Eternal but in different perspective. I wanna see how crazy Doom Slayer is in regular Joe perspective.
If it had a similar playstyle to Eternal, and told the story of the ARC/Resistance between 2016 and Eternal, as a soldier following Hayden, leading directly into the Slayers return to Earth...hell yes.
I am happy that they went for another direction for Doom rather than this. But now I'm kinda interested in the story of this cancelled Doom ! Maybe they turn this cancelled game into like a prequel spin-off to DOOM Eternal. Where it tells the story of what happened between 2016 and Eternal, how did the demons invaded earth ? What happened before the Slayer's arrival ? How did Dr. Samuel Hayden fall in operation Hell Breaker ? Hence why we would be playing as a normal human who's a survivor during the invasion. But then the gameplay might suck, idk... I have mixed feelings for this.
1:09 That model looks awfully a lot like Kevin Spacey.
I thought the same.
The doom prototype would be really cool for the civilian view of the demon invasion not the doom slayer's or it could be another game entire with different lore etc
id is pronounced as one word, like “did” without the first d. It’s a part of your brain, which is what the studio’s name is inspired by. The id makes you act on your impulses and carries out fundamental processes.
Id Software can still revive this project in some shape or form you know. If they want to that is. They can just make this game set in between the events of DOOM (2016) and DOOM Eternal or something. But told in the perspective of a survivor on earth during its invasion of Hell.
this definitly be a good doom spinoff. your a character without doom guy skills fighting the demon invasion. basically odst to the halo spartan where your smaller, slower, weaker and weapons are scavenged on the battlefield. they can even play it that your in the same fights as doom guy so your witnessing his destruction first hand and realize why the demons fear him. also you could actually make the heavy demons to real boss fights and smaller soldier demons actually a threat.
Nice info, I’m happy with what we got with 2016 and eternal.
Scrapping this was absolutely a good idea.
3:10 the grenade launching is in multiplayer of doom 2016
1:09 ah yes playable character kevin spacey
I wish we could have had this as a spin off title from the humans/civilian perspectives, while still getting Doom 2016.
I am glad ID listened to the playtester and agreed "It look shit" seriously this is generic Call of Duty with the Doom name slapped on it.
Kind of a "Rage 2: Hellish Bogaloo". Neat that lots of stuff got reused for 2016!
It would be great spin off series having normal humans fight demons trying to hold on to what's left of earth until the doom slayer can arrive to save the humans.
The "SICK MELEE" system could be an amazing addition to the next doom game except no blocking, no dodging just a straight up brawl against gigantic Demons and the Demons can't attack and if the do they get their limbs blown off with a parry.
I wish I could play this in it’s entirety!
man, we need this, this is good enough, and those soundtracks
Looks like a doom-rage hybrid. So glad that they became two separate games
I'm so glad they scrapped this. SO GLAD!!
I think this version should be released as a side story to Doom Eternal, because we know the resistance is part of the lore in Doom Eternal. Also, the monsters and weapons, as mentioned do seem extremely similar to all we see in Doom 2016 and Eternal.
This would be a great Doom spin-off where you play as an UAC soldier again demons on Earth
You can hear some of Wolfenstein's OST in Mick's "The Humans" track for this
i think one proto footage showed imps with dreadlocks which looks sick
3:51 ''sadly, the game has been cancelled'' I wouldnt call it sad, its a good thing it got rebooted into what it is now. The developers were right when they said this looked more like ''Call of Doom''.
Imo, I could/could've see(n) this as being a spin-off sequel to Doom (2016) before Eternal. Showing us how the invasion on Earth began.
Kinda a shame we didn't get this game. It might not have revived the franchise like the one we got did, but I feel like this still would be pretty awesome as a spin-off
1:37 - What reboot? The only reboot in the Doom franchise is Doom 3, which came before the proposed Doom 4.
He probably meant doom 2016
I think most of the stuff from this project was later used in RAGE, another game developed by id Software.
The universe where doom went to shit and fallout got a amazing reboot that almost everyone loved
the one time we're living in good timeline where we got doom 2016 instead of this.
2:22 2016 Shotgun Model
2:50 He already said that in the video
If you got one of Bethesda’s other devs - like MachineGames - to make this as a short, no-filler spin-off told from the perspective of some ordinary human then sure. As long as ID Software still make a true fully-fledged sequel too.
Honestly this game could be a spinoff from the perspective of normal soldiers during the events of Eternal
I certainly think it would have been a neat idea however it wouldn't be fitting for a Doom game. I'm very pleased with how retail Doom 4 and later Doom 5 (Doom Eternal) decided to throw the modern Call of Duty style of shooting out entirely, in favor of bringing Doom back to its roots and making Doom, Doom-ey again.
It's a shame a lot of the material got scrapped but I think it was worth it for Doom. I think a lot of what was scrapped could make for an interesting Rage 3 as it more akin to Rage than anything else. Using it as a base for Rage 3, Rage 3 could take place during the demonic invasion of earth from Doom Eternal further connecting both series of games, or it could take place during the early meteor strike of the first game as a prequel. I don't think Rage turned out real great but there was a lot of potential for it, which is why I think so many people including myself were let down by Rage.
Everyone else: I would love a spinoff where you play as a ARC soilder
Me: What the hell is the daughter?
I assume the massive demon protecting the hive
I thought it was the short-haired girl seen several times in the trailer leading the resistance, I assumed she was the daughter of either Augustus or Bradley. Since the track comes right after The Resistance, I assumed it's a scene where you meet her.
It could also be the name of the giant demon that breathes fire in the gameplay demo.
This would do good, like it takes place in doom eternal, but you play as someone in a group of survivors
It would probably be something very similar to rage.
it actually makes sense why doom eternal and doom 2016 were not a single game, since they had already wasted alot of time rebooting the game they were probably short on $ and time to make a single game so ID decided to make 2 games out of 1.
This can easily be done now since we know that there are alternate realities in the Doom universe. This could be the slayers reality and a consequence of him being put to rest at the end of The Ancient gods. Without a slayer in that universe the demons wreak havoc on earth, but there are some humans that are defenders that have high potential to become a slayer, so they fight off the demons until the return of the slayer. Plus id has been dying to make a co op multiplayer campaign for Doom, I can see this actually happening.
hell was sealed at the end of TAG 2