id's Cancelled DOOM 4 - NEW INFO DISCOVERED - NEW FOOTAGE

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    A bunch of new information, content, footage, and more has been discovered from id Software's cancelled DOOM 4 project, including a full explanation of the games story. Absolutely crazy stuff.
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  • @SgtP4in
    @SgtP4in ปีที่แล้ว +264

    I don't care if it was bad, it probably was, but the canceled doom 4 still fascinates me, and I love hearing about it

    • @reptarien
      @reptarien ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I think the interest I have for this is a lot like the interest in Half Life 2 Beta. Objectively not very good, but interesting nonetheless

    • @Bannanawaffles2
      @Bannanawaffles2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      See, this is a really important distinction. People ask "Why do you care about beta X or cut content from Y? It was cut for a reason, it was bad, etc~", and I feel they're entirely missing the point. It's that this sort of stuff is just interesting. Iteration and the process of design is just interesting. Researching and learning more about the process people went through to deliver a product is just interesting. It doesn't matter if the content they cut was bad or if the game they were making would've been bad.
      It also just itches the autism sector of my brain real good too tho.

    • @Dewm_
      @Dewm_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Bannanawaffles2 This 100%
      Also it's really interesting seeing what could have been. Often playing these feels like you're playing a game from an alternate dimension. Playing something that feels so familiar but is fundamentally different is an experience I can't seem to get enough of.

    • @Cheesepuff8
      @Cheesepuff8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ye I wish companies would release their failed projects as low priced experiences, and the assets, animations and cinematics

    • @clawzx1195
      @clawzx1195 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any cancelled project is bound to be interesting

  • @thejonnyism6868
    @thejonnyism6868 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Honestly, I would love to get a game like this. With the polish and the pesronality Doom Eternal had, I could see this being the spiritual sequal to Doom 3. This could have been the ODST of the Doom franchise.

    • @emilianozamora399
      @emilianozamora399 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wasn't the odst of the doom franchise already doom 3

    • @thejonnyism6868
      @thejonnyism6868 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @emiliano zamora Kind of, it was a way to flex the next step in software development but mostly in a new engine. They wanted to lean more on horror than fast action with the atmosphere and new lighting technology. It divided fans for a while. Nowadays, most people see it as an alright game that did something different with the franchise, but it hasn't really gone in that direction since the new games.
      This wasn't really a spin-off game it was what the franchise was gonna be. At least, that's how I see it

    • @zenithquasar9623
      @zenithquasar9623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And art style, then sure.

    • @Scroolewse
      @Scroolewse ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You can't have a spiritual successor to Doom 3 with the personality of Eternal. It's one or the other.

    • @thejonnyism6868
      @thejonnyism6868 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To an extent, I could agree. Doom Eternal goes hard on the metal album cover energy and isn't afraid of going ridiculous in the storytelling or referencing stuff like the original game or an inside joke amongst the community. But I still think in a way it could be possible. Doom 3 goes way into the action by the halfway point, and while Hell is still daunting, the action side of the game is with us full force. Again, not entirely but not impossible. Doom 64 is super atmospheric for me but it's still a Doom game at the end of the day.

  • @TylerMcVicker1
    @TylerMcVicker1  ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Here is all the DOOM 4 footage I could find, so far: th-cam.com/video/8QuAUeN4rgk/w-d-xo.html

    • @jad_c
      @jad_c ปีที่แล้ว

      ok and?

    • @lilthreadd
      @lilthreadd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jad_c ok and?

  • @jeremieh5009
    @jeremieh5009 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    All I’m gonna say is that I am glad we got what we got on release day

    • @humanharddrive1
      @humanharddrive1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      same

    • @CoolSs
      @CoolSs ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed

    • @gamerman7276
      @gamerman7276 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doom Eternal would be cool if it was made by gamers and not Microsoft executives.

    • @olavolima2330
      @olavolima2330 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gamerman7276 it’s good tf you mean? And the game was made before the microsoft acquisitions

  • @_TheAntagonist_
    @_TheAntagonist_ ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I adore Doom 3, and am one of the five people on earth that really liked RAGE, so as glad as I am that we got the games we did, I really wish I could have seen how this panned out. Obvious modern military shooter inspiration, but it also seemed to preserve more of the horror elements of Doom, which is something I really feel has been lost at this point.

  • @spikeslab5922
    @spikeslab5922 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Would be cool if they considered releasing that old stuff as like a concept demonstration just to show creative ideas and bring that different kind of game-play.
    Maybe a convention that allowed devs to bring in old beta/alpha stuff to share with the gamming community.
    Would be such a great fresh breath of creativity air.
    Idk maybe licensing and all that kinda of stuff would get in the way but would still be amazing to go through a "museum" of the old canceled stuff and they go over why and what steps brought them to the final product.

    • @Scroolewse
      @Scroolewse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is a really cool concept. Only problem is something like that would mainly garner interest and customer appreciation from notoriously miserly PC gamers lol.

  • @knowtheplan472
    @knowtheplan472 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Some of the body horror stuff with the walls and monsters looked pretty cool, wish they kept that

    • @Lugbzurg
      @Lugbzurg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reminds me of the guardian necromorphs from Dead Space. (The guys fused to the walls.)

  • @AnCoolUsername
    @AnCoolUsername ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I was really into Doom 3 so I probably would have had an alright time with the game. I'm glad we got what we ended up getting instead, but I still want to play this.

    • @Aelfraed26
      @Aelfraed26 ปีที่แล้ว

      But Doom 4 looks nothing like Doom 3

    • @AnCoolUsername
      @AnCoolUsername ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Aelfraed26 I disagree. It looks like a cross between doom 3 and call of duty to me.

  • @Gizzor
    @Gizzor ปีที่แล้ว +10

    the monster design like the woman that splits in half and the huge one with the giant mouth are really cool designs so as bad it might have been it still would have looked great

  • @CaptainJox
    @CaptainJox ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Would have been the next Dead Space 3

  • @SprocketWatchclock
    @SprocketWatchclock ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This makes me glad the game we got was the one that shipped even if it was named confusingly.

  • @Semaze
    @Semaze ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This just kinda makes me think it'd be cool to have a Metroid Prime: Federation Force-style doom game. Like, a squad of UNSC marines fighting through hoards of demons. (Though, it'd probably canonically fit as a prequel, and they would likely die at the end.)

  • @Gia-lv2lg
    @Gia-lv2lg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Basically Hugo Martin stepped in and saved everyone's ass, true savior of humanity

  • @nickosman1556
    @nickosman1556 ปีที่แล้ว

    love how you put an ad in a 5 minutes teaser video for a secondary channel

  • @Scroolewse
    @Scroolewse ปีที่แล้ว

    2:10 wow I fucking love that menu. That looks dope

  • @OpenMawProductions
    @OpenMawProductions ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Couple of things.
    Doom 4 is referring to a couople of different games, not just one game.
    Doom 4 was never "not good." it was an id Software game, they don't make bad things. It just wasn't what Doom fans would ever have wanted Doom to be. The version showcased in this 2012 footage is NOT the Call of Doom version, it is an inbetween version that ultimately became the 2016 game.

  • @Triumph263
    @Triumph263 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even though I'm very happy we got DOOM(2016) and eventually DOOM: Eternal instead of this I am still interested in what they do have. A lot of the ideas were interesting, and a lot of concepts/assets were recycled in DOOM(2016). One thing that surprises me is that Snap Map was already a thing (I had assumed that was basically tacked on to the final game, since they dropped it for DOOM: Eternal, it was decent in DOOM(2016) but it couldn't compete with a proper level editor like Radiant or Hammer). I hope ID opens up more on this.

  • @monkeywithocd
    @monkeywithocd ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really wish we had gotten Doom 4. Doom 2016 was undoubtedly the better game, and is honestly my favorite in the Doom franchise, but the bits I see of Doom 4 look so cool, and seems to offer a bit more of that "hell on earth" vibe that I feel Doom Eternal was lacking.

  • @TunbosunOyenuga
    @TunbosunOyenuga ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Keep pumping that content out bro 🤙🏿

  • @haroldasusus4684
    @haroldasusus4684 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be neat if we had one mission or bonus level where we play as a regular marine. Imps and zombies are much harder and lesser demons like barons and a cacodemons are treated as bosses

  • @jamesoloughlin
    @jamesoloughlin ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Doom 3 was peak id.

    • @rombuckofgodlick6126
      @rombuckofgodlick6126 ปีที่แล้ว

      keep lying to yourself. it'll only hurt you gradually over the years....but it will still hurt.

    • @rombuckofgodlick6126
      @rombuckofgodlick6126 ปีที่แล้ว

      peak ID software will always be Doom 2 and Quake

  • @nathanielpurdy7014
    @nathanielpurdy7014 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All things considered, I would still play Doom 4 if given the chance. I love what we got in the reboot and its sequel, really love, but I am still curious about how this one would have shaped up. Looked to me like I would have enjoyed, if not loved that one too.

  • @InnuendoXP
    @InnuendoXP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hunt: Showdown IMO has shown how horror can properly work in an FPS. A DOOM game where you can already hear the monsters in the next room, where you need to scout to gain information on enemy positions to have a real chance & exploring to collect health + ammo is really necessary to not have a really hard time, where they can easily rush & overwhelm you if you give yourself away in a bad position, and where tougher demons are like mini-bosses in their own right where you need to prepare & explore to equip yourself for a short burst of overwhelming firepower, is a game I'd definitely want to play.
    While the Doom we wound up with was the shot in the arm the IP needed, I'd love a Doom game that approached from the horror angle of being a regular soldier again. I don't think the formula for this really existed at the time and I don't think what they were working on for OG Doom4 would've been it - but I think if the series is to go anywhere from here, I think there's clear precedent on how it could work, and the art style for what they had already looked pretty dang good - now they have the tech to actually pull off how those old RAGE tech demos looked.

  • @PalaceDude
    @PalaceDude ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So it was basically a Dead Space game. At which period was it in development again?

  • @danminep
    @danminep ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would love to see a video on this stuff.

  • @CatsT.M
    @CatsT.M ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your passion for games is incredible.

  • @Splarkszter
    @Splarkszter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so glad we got Doom 2016 instead of that seemingly soulless thing that just followed the trend, it probably would have killed the doom franchise and ID software with it.

  • @bulutcagdas1071
    @bulutcagdas1071 ปีที่แล้ว

    That color filtering on the footage is near identical to what they used in RAGE, so glad they didn't keep that for Doom2016

  • @iamburak
    @iamburak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As we can see its pure horror and action game. Not like "rip and tear". Its more serious and dark. You can feel the danger world have

  • @ControllerQuickSwaps
    @ControllerQuickSwaps ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Give me more horror DOOM PLEEEEEASE

  • @mtrmx2621
    @mtrmx2621 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It all started with a bad day.

  • @graematter
    @graematter ปีที่แล้ว

    DEFINITELY interested. I was always curious about what made them say, "Nah. We can do better."

  • @Kratos7560
    @Kratos7560 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always thought this version of Doom would make for a great prequel as to how Earth became the wreck that it was in Eternal. Maybe show some of the cool vehicles and mechs Hayden proposed to be built, even better if we piloted said vehicles and mechs. Then end the game with our faceless character holding out just as the Doom Slayer appears to save us.

    • @Lugbzurg
      @Lugbzurg ปีที่แล้ว

      An A.R.C. Complex game! Imagine if you got to play as Crash, Phobos, or Samuel Hayden!

  • @mikeb3172
    @mikeb3172 ปีที่แล้ว

    Walking through a corridor has more story - alone - than Doom 2016 did at any point...

  • @vivivivivi
    @vivivivivi ปีที่แล้ว

    i fucking love the enemy designs i wqish we got something like it in the new games

  • @comedicidiot
    @comedicidiot ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow, this would've been way worse than we we got. Imagine we got this shit instead of the glory that is Doom Eternal

  • @murph8020
    @murph8020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doom 4 looks like it could have potential to tell an epic story. Rather than take place on a baron wasteland like mars, an earth hellscape looks much more interesting and just has that apocalyptic vibe that the other doom games are lacking.
    I would take this over Doom 2016, where no amount of polish to the combat system could make up for the fact that the setting and the story is extremely bland and repetitive.

  • @Japixx
    @Japixx ปีที่แล้ว

    I want id to make horror shooter like what D4 was already

  • @VELVETPERSON
    @VELVETPERSON ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope someone will make a Doom 1 overhaul mod based on this beta doom 4

    • @Lugbzurg
      @Lugbzurg ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably a better idea to build it off of Doom II, honestly.

  • @Sarum9nich
    @Sarum9nich ปีที่แล้ว

    YES PLEASE. I WANT TO KNOW MORE.

  • @johnbriggs7728
    @johnbriggs7728 ปีที่แล้ว

    So all that time wishing Hugo Martin was your dad looks like it's paying off?

  • @XzaroX
    @XzaroX ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just want a true sequel to Doom 3 about Betruger's invasion of Earth.

  • @chickensofdeath490
    @chickensofdeath490 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This game would have sucked especially if it means we wouldnt have gotten doom 2016 and doom eternal but I would be interested in something like Doom 3 2, Doom 3 was kinda half baked and it was great but it wasnt awful, a spin off with a mixture of Doom 3 and the cancelled Doom 4 could be really cool.

  • @nateghast6456
    @nateghast6456 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those enemies would have been cool to fight.

  • @zenithquasar9623
    @zenithquasar9623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg, I am so glad Doom changed direction back to the roots. Doom 4 looks kind of boring.

  • @Freelancer837
    @Freelancer837 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone please leak Prey 2 already? Would be fitting with all the other leaks we keep getting

  • @Crasherbasher
    @Crasherbasher ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice, well done

  • @brians1793
    @brians1793 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, so the marine having a chip planted in their head allowing them to be controlled and of course you play the part of the controller, wouldn't that make it both a first-person and third-person shooter, but in the first-person perspective? One can only assume the controller can also see through the eyes of the marine so that would make sense. That's kind of a cool idea actually, I kinda feel like it always would have made the most sense to keep the person as faceless as possible so you can just pretend it's you when it's supposed to be like it's you in the game, not like you're controlling another person. But of course nobody really overthought that for years lol, and neither did I until now.

  • @jad_c
    @jad_c ปีที่แล้ว +7

    goofy ah sponsor length

    • @PalaceDude
      @PalaceDude ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The content interrupted the ad.

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, I got pissed when Doom 4 is found on the internet.

  • @ericpreston8877
    @ericpreston8877 ปีที่แล้ว

    The next Doom should dial back the action and embrace the horror more. Not to the extent that Doom 3 did perhaps, but more than 2016 or Eternal. I think there's a.happy medium between Doom 3 and 2016.

    • @Lugbzurg
      @Lugbzurg ปีที่แล้ว

      For the time being, that would be Doom 64... or the PlayStation version of Doom.

  • @karloz2722
    @karloz2722 ปีที่แล้ว

    I get that the game could have been (and probably was) bad, that said, I like the idea a lot. I think with some good maps and some well planned progress this could have been a really good game, I'm thinking like Half-Life meets Doom. In Half-Life you had to escape Black Mesa and fight aliens and marines, Doom 4 could have been similar but with demons instead of aliens and I think that had potential.

  • @Wonk_Bonk
    @Wonk_Bonk ปีที่แล้ว

    idk why but the intro reminds me of gears of war tbh

  • @hummbug72
    @hummbug72 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good on Hugo for the change but still stuff him for his unfair treatment to Mick Gordon

  • @pinklightninggacha
    @pinklightninggacha ปีที่แล้ว

    That would have been awesome and new

  • @orchid9
    @orchid9 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Doom 4 was brown boring Call of Duty clone" - all videos are showing glory kills and super-shotgunning demons... but on earth... but without super-mario styled gameplay Eternal is. And those were concept pre-alpha videos - the style the game was aiming for, which is pretty much the same style as 2016 - glory kills and super-shotgunning everything.
    I dunno man... the whole Doom 4 story seems fishy to me

  • @Lettusfarm
    @Lettusfarm ปีที่แล้ว

    Where's the part that you talked about it?

  • @mastafoo886
    @mastafoo886 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so interested

  • @toasterenthusiast6188
    @toasterenthusiast6188 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't you essentially break your NDA by disclosing the project you are working on

  • @mattwoodard2535
    @mattwoodard2535 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Call of DooM" 🤣 sm

  • @thx134
    @thx134 ปีที่แล้ว

    Give me more Call of DooM!

  • @gavincalvin5326
    @gavincalvin5326 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait to see more doom 4 cancels

  • @Pyromaniax
    @Pyromaniax ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Tyler could you please tell Hugo to update the Riot Soldier in Eternal to make him bald and black like the Chaingunner thanks

  • @MrGuy__
    @MrGuy__ ปีที่แล้ว

    you really wanna work with id after the whole mick gordon debacle?

  • @CoolSs
    @CoolSs ปีที่แล้ว

    I know a lot of people will disagree with me but i like Doom 2016 more then Doom eternal, sometime less is more and doom 2016 is more like HL in terms of story telling and being not too "crazy" in terms of look and gameplay. Is something i liked.

  • @iamgeorgesears
    @iamgeorgesears ปีที่แล้ว

    inb4 Marty over rules Hugo and stomps Tyler.

  • @RolandTheJabberwocky
    @RolandTheJabberwocky ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly just slap a different name on it and it could have been a dark horse game.

  • @mort_brain
    @mort_brain ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! have been waiting for Doom 4 throughout my middle school, and was a bit upset when we got Doom 2016 instead, but never disappointed! Thanks for sharing this with us.

  • @Oo_Cat_oO
    @Oo_Cat_oO ปีที่แล้ว

    welp

  • @bishcopt9158
    @bishcopt9158 ปีที่แล้ว

    wash your hair if u wanna sell me t-shirts

  • @slood
    @slood ปีที่แล้ว

    tshirt

  • @ewfwefwefwef
    @ewfwefwefwef ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good, i want quake 5

  • @gaming_bigfoot
    @gaming_bigfoot ปีที่แล้ว

    Doom being more than a 1-trick-pony franchise would be interesting

    • @PiroKUSS
      @PiroKUSS ปีที่แล้ว

      What does 1-trick-pony mean?

  • @meediamongergamemodder2302
    @meediamongergamemodder2302 ปีที่แล้ว

    probably tryen ta get nvesters ntrested na new doom wifa tiny trailor na dinky demo dont mean someone wont pik it up someday hek i thought battlefront was dunzo til eapiked it up😍

  • @Blurns
    @Blurns ปีที่แล้ว

    Half-Life was always something of a Doom clone. In Doom 2 demons are on Earth, in HL2 aliens control Earth. The reason HL3 never happened is because Valve didn't know where to go from there because Id didn't really do anything but retread Doom 1 & 2.

  • @mrtwinky2007
    @mrtwinky2007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doom 4 still looks way better than Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal, Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal were both very repetitive, boring games that just seemed far to big headed about themselves.

    • @jkm4505
      @jkm4505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Idk bro I've had a blast and so much fun. The story isn't A+ but it's also not trying to be realistic, it's a fantasy and I love it!

    • @Wobbothe3rd
      @Wobbothe3rd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Youre out of your mind. Doom Eternal is one of the best FPS games of all time, literally up there with Doom 2.

  • @costcobakery6478
    @costcobakery6478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First

  • @rachelwindsor850
    @rachelwindsor850 ปีที่แล้ว

    It probably felt more like a Doom game than Doom 2016 did.
    Yes, I said it.

  • @ninjatriplexxx6109
    @ninjatriplexxx6109 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is radical. Subscribing for more DOOM content