Ganondorf's SECRET PROJECTILE - Random Smash Ultimate Facts
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- Ganondorf only has ONE projectile to his name I guess, and it's really dumb
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02:23 Ganondorf’s Projectile ?!?!
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Can't wait for a mod that let you fire "Ganondorf's projectiles" through falco's or fox's blaster!
that would be hilarious, someone should make this
Warning! 🚨 Massive modding nerd explanation for ganon’s final smash ahead!
Anything that can move independently of a character is coded completely differently and is what we call an “article”. Every projectile is an article, and some final smashes use articles as well, just so, for example, pit’s lightning chariot isn’t just- moving around invisibly with him all game. Something like Mario’s cap wouldn’t be an article. Sure, it moves in one of his taunts, but it moves *with* him- so if he’s pushed with wind during the taunt, the cap goes with him. Beast ganon is just an article of ganon, and when the final smash starts, normal ganondorf gets put into an animation, and beast ganon is summoned. The same frame beast ganon is summoned is when normal ganondorf is turned invisible, and then a couple frames later the projectile is counted. As for why this final smash in specific is considered a projectile- the way to turn an article into a projectile is just- a flag. Mewtwo’s shadow ball for example has the projectile flag on, but if it was off, nothing would change except it not being counted as a projectile during results (reflectability is a hitbox property). Ganon’s final smash article just has the projectile flag for some reason ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Yoooo. LilyLambda modding nerd cameo.
Y’all recognize me too fast
I see
super interesting, thanks!
My guess is that the flag was added by mistake either in moveset conversion from Brawl or in a patch.
“Speaking of existing” 10:04
Wow what a transition
The funny thing about mewtwo's final smash is that the ingame tip for it literally states that it's a projectile... but it apparently isn't.
a while back you tried to "reflect" links final smash with bayonettas witch time and it didnt work, but now that you know links isnt actually a projectile and ganons is i wonder if you could do it with that?
hmm, Im gonna try to test that hold on (I am pkbeats real,,, /s)
I dodged the damage but it didnt slow him down
@@evidence2839 so you dodged a final smash with a "counter", (ik about how Bayonettas dodge ability works) interesting....
Would this be able to hit the ganondorf’s teammate? Witch time usually makes the projectile hers without changing its direction.
@@jgordan775 assuming training mode cpus are teammates, no (I dont have other controllers to test with so this is the best I can reasonably do)
What if you can't reflect ganondorf final smash because the "projectile" is too strong and break the reflector (at it hits you above 52%) what happens if you make ganondorf weak enough so that the final smash does less damage and thus get reflected, if it actually can be reflected?
I think Final Smashes generally just have different properties to other moves, otherwise anyone with a counter could negate almost every final smash
@@midi5467 Not if its a hitgrab like Terry’s Buster Wolf or Little Macs KO Punch
Flareblitz?
I don't know if the "projectile" being too strong matters perhaps sense the sword swing itself deals below 20% already which I would imagine mean it would be reflected then. I don't know though how much percentage damage it would be before it stops reflecting, or how it works more than just the obvious stuff, but I would believe that Ganon is just a unique type of projectile in this case that just can't be interacted by like Mario's cape even if you somehow perfectly timed the move, if not a straight up mistake somehow.
Franklin Badges can reflect projectiles doing up to 100% damage
10:00 this happens because all cutscene final smashes sort of "reset" everyone's state when it's used. Like if you went into freefall, was in knockback, or held any item and a cutscene final smash just so happened to occur, all of that would be removed and you would go back to a normal "idle" state.
Yeah, I see it all the time when playing with 8 players and final smashes, I've had items get deleted from my hand because someone landed a Final Smash on someone else (these effects have also saved me, such as canceling Kirby and Chrom's special fall from using Up B)
It's a weird thing, and while I find it kinda dumb, at the same time it does feel somewhat necessary
So what you're telling me is that in theory, if you're playing casual doubles and your team mate misses the ledge and is in free fall, you could save save them assuming your character's final smash works for this and you have final smash to begin with.
@@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 yep, just gotta make sure you have one, and if you hit the opponent, you can KO them and simultaneously save your teammate!
nice pfp
This explains why I had moments where I need to input the recovery again after like Fox's Final Smash
Ganondorf's Final Smash being considered a projectile is most definitely a mistake
i think its intentional game design
@@rando58 It's literally the only Final Smash that's considered a projectile and doesn't have anything in it that suggests it being a projectile
@@rando58 it would likely be intentional if it was consistent, but it appears that final smashes don't count as projectiles
@@SonicTheCutehog my guess is that the transformation is technically a projectile, because it's an entirely different model and animation rig
@@tsquitz Then explain Giga Bowser or any other Final Smash that involves the character transforming
“Ridley!” “samus you think some lowly creature like that can defea- Wait where the hell did she go”
“Speaking of stupid stuff” *aqua man ad plays*
I found something about isabells final smash but haven't tested it yet so my apologies if it doesn't work. I think if she uses her final smash while standing on a crate with wheels you can pick up the crate that she is standing on and move her around during it. I think you should be able to throw the crate that she's standing on offstage and kill her mid final smash.
from my testing, she just stays in place during the final smash, though I could have missed something
would be interesting to test this with multiple final smashes
So Ganonorf is basically spawning a Zelda Phantom Knight named Ganon.
One random fact I found is a bug with samus red missiles on team battle :
Red missiles won't track down opponents (or allies if you can attack them) depending on the team color and player number of samus :
- Samus P1 won't track red team ;
- Samus P2 won't track blue team ;
- Samus P3 wont' track green team ;
- Samus P4 won't track yellow team ;
Such a obscure bug, the crazy thing is on a 2vs2 battle, the bug whould proc pretty often with team attack on.
Was about to say that it's probably intended (because it makes no sense for "homing" attacks to actively target teammates even with Team Attack on), then I realized what you were saying. Might be related to the feature I mentioned though.
“Speaking of existing”
What a transition Lol
11:49 even the CPUs have the same kind of comedic timing like PK Beats is so funny
Heeeeyyy...me again. My friend was curious if it was only ultimate Ganondorfs final smash counted as a projectile or all Ganondorfs and...surprisingly yes! You'd think it was a bug but no, brawl and smash 4 Ganondorfs final smash also count as a projectile! Why? I have no clue xD is Sakurai trolling us!? XD
Also thank you so much for putting my comment into your video! Been a huge fan since the first smash ultimate video! :)
Obviusly he throws down a pokeball with an extra ganondorf in it
The add break at 2:20 was perfect because it indeed was really stupid
I got one of those stupid scam adds that claim you can get thousands of dollars for doing nothing
2:25 LOOK MA I'M FAMOUS!!! also i'm so sorry for the final smashs giving you problems! I'm surprised to learn that links has no projectile! :0 Ganondorf is a mysterious man I guess xD but at least now nobody can complain about him having no projectile!
What happened if you activate the glitch and you have charge shot and after the final smash you Kill someone before you die and lose your stocks and you activate the glitch at 1 stock what happened
I love your ultimate facts vids, just some chill informative vids on my favorite game :)
Same I love it!
For the first one saying the prevent you from dying to the top blastzone thing, you don't die unless you're in hitstun, so if you just don't get hit while being in the top blastzone you don't die! Hope this helps
Weird fact: when characters run out of jumps, they get a little dark aura around them thats barely noticable
I think the original discord was pretty good since your community is very niche, so it would most likely be easy to weed out the weirdos, while making a chill community for your viewers to enjoy.
For the star fact, it looks like the hammer is still there for a few frames before it gets auto-poofed, and it's the same as with the star itself.
Here’s a fun fact in a similar vein as fox laser!
Bayonetta and her extended gun normals and specials, if the purple effect hits the opponent, it also cancels the voice line of any character!
The fact Fox somehow managed to use it on a dead character reminds me of something… I once somehow had a CPU stamina battle where Steve used a final smash in a dead character before they poofed. The house of boom was empty, lol.
Unfortunately I forgot to record the replay…
yeah I’ve had some glitches with the House of Boom
very, VERY funny jokes this video, caught me laughing multiple times alskdjgflsaj
thanks for making me chuckle! 😄
2:21 Speaking of stupid stuff ! ... *ad starts playing :D*
Yo, here's a definitive answer on why Ganondorf's Final Smash counts as a projectile.
The game uses a "status" system, which determines how a move behaves using a collection of scripts that run during each point of a certain character state. One of these, the "pre" script, handles setting certain flags such as whether the move is B-Reversible/Wave-Bounceable, whether you can get footstooled or phantom footstooled (which is set to false during any attacking action, extra food for thought), and... whether or not the game counts any articles generated by the character during that state should count as a projectile.
Mario, Link, and the others you mentioned do not that flag set, but guess who does?
That's right, Ganondorf.
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this the part where we all say something stupid? alrighty. water is paper.🔥
chairs are alive (btw nice pfp)
i agree with that statement. (thx ma boi‼️)
Ok, this is really funny how it feels degrading to say, oh yeah, that big ol pig demon thing? Just a projectile
Looking back at it, Samus has invincibility in the duration of her flying up from Fox's final smash, but doesn't when you use the down b thing. So that is why she dies, and also reminds me of how that could happen in Brawl with a final smash like Captain Falcon's. The effect was a bit more normal cause you lose the stock without the whole keeping percent till you respawn, but you could become a full on zombie if you lose your last stock to the initial part, but not the launch part. Try having more players in and see if you can become a zombie like in Brawl, or whether you just blip out of existence or something
Just to add, if you use an emulator and lag your game on purpose or don't cache the FS shaders, you can see the character that's being hit fly upwards. This can also be seen by modding your switch and lagging it that way, although it's about limiting CPU threads more than lower your FPS.
If you lag your game with the ball glitch mentioned in the video, you can see Samus get KO'd in real time. In addition to that, if you lag your game without the glitch, you can see the white invincibility glint that indicates you're invincible. You can also do this in training mode, with no mods using the show invincibility function, and using the FS at low speed.
Just wanted to share my testing.
@@Best.Masters, that sounds interesting. You can even see in this video that Samus is white while flying up, which shows the invincibility. It is a funny glitch all the same, but your results also sound cool
I remember clanking with the first hit of Ganon's Final Smash with Zelda's aerial Up-B and I always wondered why...who knew it was a clankable projectile??!!
Thanks for the video :)
14:13 what if you time a mushroom falling off to make you big at the same time
From what I can tell, Mii Swordfighter's body entirely rotates. Not slowly peels off, as the leg seems to move a bit closer to the camera. It might just be an animation error the devs never realized since it's quite subtle.
Thanks for the video
Glad to see you're still making videos on a game thats almost 5 years old.
Bonus info on the wall of lava [from behind], you don't actually have to go up that high if you use up special. Even characters like chrome and ikes up specials will allow them to not get hit by the lava when it clearly LOOKS like it should've. it was like this even in brawl.
I would honestly be really interested in a community discord server, from what I’ve seen this community seems pretty chill and doing some TF2 shenanigans or an online stardew valley server as examples for community events sounds pretty fun
PKBeats shops at Aldi confirmed. Neat.
I really enjoyed the previous community server, it would definitely be cool to have it back!
i wonder how strong ganon final smash can get if you incorporate projectile damage spirits and final smash spirits
I actually got that hot sauce calendar last year, it’s some good shit
As someone who has found so many great friends through a discord server that spawned from the closure of your TF2 channel's discord server, i support the idea of making a public discord.
Also bluster still has that clip where he airshots you with a pipe, it's a pretty cool clip
10:00 I feel like that happens for ganon and bowser because it makes their could make their player model invisible, and disable all effects, then just not re-enable then
As for the Fox laser thing, Bayo's bullet arts cancel voice lines, too. It's funny.
my best guess for the ganondorf thing is that the game uses some sort of internal function to make projectiles, and his final smash uses some sort of property of that, which increases the projectile counter as an unintended byproduct
as for the whole thing counting as a projectile, that actually makes a lot of sense - the moment ganondorf changes models, he's replaced by the beast ganon "projectile" that then does the final smashing and gets boosted by the projectile spirit; he shows up back where he was because he never actually moved, he just disappeared and then the beast ganon "projectile" did all the work
edit: i have a similar guess as to why link's final smash is funky: it probably works like joker's neutral b where it's actually just a really long hitbox, since it happens so quickly that there's no reason to shoot off an object that travels across the screen, and in fact doing so would probably make it just phase through opponents since it would be on one side of them one frame and the other side the next
I NEED THAT HOT SAUCE ADVENT CALENDAR OMG
He said “Speaking of stupid stuff” and I got an ad immediately afterward lmao
Link's final smash's hitbox is a straight line like Joker's gun (might be wrong). This'd make it more like something like the triforce slash but 1 (or 2) hits instead of a few.
Ganondorf's final smash is probably like the bullet bill.
Ganondorf leaves, a projectile spawns and moves, then Ganondorf returns. Maybe it's a projectile because the final smash user's model disappears and is replaced by a rarely used model. Maybe Pac-Man is a projectile? Beast Ganon is also a boss (though Bowser wasn't, he was still in control).
My best guess about why this happens is speed, trajectory, and gravity/ground tracking. I seem to recall when playing around with final smashes when the game first came out, that links final smash is a) near instant b) horizontal and c) unaffected by gravity. I think that it is some combination of these effects that make it impossible to code as a “projectile”. Similarly we see that Mario’s final smash has a) a non-instant speed b) a non-straight and non-parabolic path, and c) is unaffected by gravity. It is also not counted as a “projectile”. So combining these observations, a projectile may require a finite speed, but additionally a trajectory for which the physics engine can act upon, though, whether or not a projectile is affected by gravity might not be completely necessary, since ganondorfs final smash does not appear to be. TLDR; anything that is instant, or cannot be mapped as a straight line or parabolic arc; cannot be categorized or instanced as a projectile in the games engine.
"Speaking of stupid stuff.." *Ads immediately*
Hey, so you've probably already covered this, and I've done little to no testing on it, but greninja's up special will give daisy a boost if daisy's umbrella is up. Haven't done testing on it with peach or other water moves, and sorry to bug you if you have already covered this.
When you Grab an enemy with browsers side b. And they turn invincible while they are in the air the final red screen will happen, the match continues.
Floating sephiroth just makes me hear one winged angel
Bullet bill is a projectile too. Or at least it’s reflect-able
The obvious question on the first one is, what if you only have one stock left? does the initial false KO actually KO you and the match ends before the final smash can begin?
4:33 he used an ancient arrow, so he didn't get the projectile counter to tick up, just like it eats up enemy drops :C
Theory as to why Link's final smash is not counted as a projectile: mechanically, it doesn't have to work as one. It is so fast, it doesn't really need to wait to move from link to the edge of the screen, so maybe it's really just a huge disjointed hitbox that makes it work more like a hitscan weapon, not a weapon that spawns something and can be dodged by moving out of the way. Ganon's final smash is slower moving and maybe can be dodged if you start in the way but jump out of the way by the time it gets to you, and it was probably easier to make it work as a projectile instead of storing Ganondorf's location at activation and warping him back. It was probably done to fix a glitch where Ganondorf would lose a stock if Final Smash Ganon went outside the blast zone.
Charging Ness's down smash on the Find Mii cage can have weird effects too, like the yo-yo getting high in the air
The vid's first glitch reminds me so much of the double ko blue falcon glitch from brawl.
And the suicide kill if you do it on a slippery platform.
The mii swordfighter falling off might be a carry over from having to make animations and test with all weights and sizes and heights; perhaps make multiple mii swordfighters and see
i think the reason why bowser and king k rool don't slide down the screen is because they have claws that would stop them from sliding.
I was texting my friend about this until he appeared in the video so I was like "oh... I guess he knows" XD
For the "Glow effects go away" part, I assume it's all the final smashes where the original character models disappear and reappear. Maybe the effect is not programmed to come back with the original model after disappearing?
gerat vid pkbeats :)
I’ve had enough
*pockets your demon king ganon*
Imagine you're final smash is someone else's neutral special
Dang it i thought you were a tool assisted speedrun. I can't believe your a human being i feel lied to
(I submitted this over two years ago in the google doc but I'm guessing it got lost so reposting)
Here's a silly little fact: Items can spawn in sudden death from Chancey's eggs on the stage Saffron City when items and stage hazards are enabled. First pokemon spawn needs to be Chansey (unless you survive lone enough for other pokemon that is) "Rare" items such as the smash ball and assist trophies cannot spawn, but most items can without issue. This same bug was also present from spawns from missiles in smash 4 wii u's Orbital Gate Assault stage (tho im not sure if it happens in smash 64)
11:23 the most aura ever used on a lvl1 cpu
Samus AGAIN with double life loss AND zombie state! What are the odds!!! 😮
community discords are best left in the hands of the community, if you ask me
13:08 Could it be that Mii Swordfighter's weight is influenced by the Mii's body build, so with "wider" Mii Fighters it does happen? I know for sure that that was a thing back in MK7, so I wouldn't discard the possibility.
I've watched exactly two of your videos and already disgruntled that your intro has the video come up from the bottom instead of rotating in from the left or right.
... buuuuut I guess the vid's good enough to get over it lol.
Y'know I always interpreted the menus of Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask as fading in from the bottom up because of how they sort of "flip up" in their animation, but you're totally right that it should be a fade in from the left to the right LOL
Alright I'll fix that going forward
Id love another public discord I never got to join the first one. I have some goofy clips I’d love to share there
Since link can pick up an arrow he shot on the ground and shoot it again, does shooting the two arrows count as two projectiles on the endscreen? (I would assume not)
Ganons final smash may deal more damage due to the team power going up when adding another spirit-it doesnt have to be only cos of the shooting attack up buff
If you use Dora's fiagra and keep on using it and then peach/daisy do their final smash, you will override the sleep phase
i think ganondorf's thing could have something to do with the weird paralyzing thing he had in past games, its probably a mistake or maybe they had plans to always left that paralyzing attack but different, with the electric slashes Ganon uses in his boss fight so either they messed up adding them to a normal match and decided to just cut the electricity or they did that correctly but someone then telled them to cut it to simplify the attack and they forgot to transform it to a normal phisical attack again
Gotta find out what happens if ghost Samus takes Fox's final stock
Does the Samus Bomb glitch thing work with Falco and Wolf’s Final Smashes as they are extremely similar to Fox’s
The ganon projectile knows where it is by knowing where it isn’t
Yay
I don’t know if they already covered this fact,but did you know that you can pocket megaman’s up-b(rush) with villager or isabelle?
Having YT and Twitter in Japanese what a chad! Unless your community (discord included) is aggressively toxic, most people know that its just par for the course and not a reflection of the content creator.
I think a discord would be neat
Idea about the ganondorf final: it’s similar to flareblitz
I wonder if Luigi’s green missile (side B) would stick into the side of the cage the way Sephiroth’s forward air does?
I know he has a chance to get stuck in the side of the stage so I wonder how that’d work on the cage…
Ganondorf’s secret projectile😏
Mii Swordfighter looks more like they impact, bounce back and tilt backwards a little bit (watch the boot), and then just fall straight down afterwards, rather than peeling off and falling backwards like KKR or Bowser.
Can’t be ko’d in certain types of hit stun (I think free fall correct me if I’m wrong) but Samus dies because she isn’t in any hitstun after the explosion. The reason samus doesn’t die normally is the same reason the Luigi ladder worked in melee
I would gladly join your new server should you make one
discord server is epic and cool i would be in favor of server coming back
The damage up on the final smash is prob because the spirit also boosts just regular attack
i m not intrested in creator discord BUT its a nice way to do comunity events and speak with your population
the most important par of a public discord and comunity discord is Who can Kick / ban / mute others.
Ganon's final is just the gat
For the 1st one, can Samus still damage Fox while in the Zombie like state?
7:41 MEDI- MED-