As mentioned by @coondog25, if the ticking is slow and regular as you describe, its 99% definitely the fan clutch. The ticking will not harm the engine but in hot climates you may find the AC does not work efficiently when the car is stationary. Ticking noises from the engine will be much faster.
Well, the ticking does get a little faster the warmer the engine gets. But not quite as fast as the revolutions of the engine itself. I'm curious to see what it will be, if I ever find out 😄
Hi Peter, I had a similar noise about a year ago on my D4. That was the small chain and we just replaced on both sides the tenioners. Noise gone. Was a lot of job but sounds better now.
2 Key elements to keeping these engines reliable is oil changes (good quality oil) and good quality fuel. I have the same unit in my XF I also had an engine tick drive me mad. Anyways I changed my oil every 6k miles and fuel it only on premium diesel for the last 7-8k miles and the tick has practically vanished. These engines are quite sensitive to maintenance schedules and the intervals are far too high I think it’s 15k miles between oil changes on the XF. Combined with cheap diesel it makes these cars run very rough it’s wrong that JLR didn’t take care when choosing this engine and its service schedule. Mine is running sweet as anything now the ticking was suspected to be an injector. Running with premium diesel the car is more responsive, smoother and slightly more refined especially in its power delivery. As for the oil doing these frequent oil changes barely increases the running costs but it will make the car last a lot longer
Hi peter. Im loving your content as always.. i am not 100% convinced your ticking is from the hydraulic lifters, have you checked your altinator belt tensioners and fan clutch? The ticking sounds more like one of those could be the issue. If its definitely in the engine, you could switch to 5w40 oil. I find it much better, specially on a higher mileage engine. I have now 402000km on my D4 SDV6 and it runs perfectly smooth and quiet with castrol 5w40 👍🏻👍🏻
Hi, when I bought the car I immediately changed the oil to the 5W-40 C3 like our old Discovery 4. I was a bit quieter for the first 500km but then it came back. I hadn't thought about the belt tensioner yet, but it's pretty rough! Thanks for the tip! All the best, Peter
@notthatkindofachannel I would definitely check the belt tensioner. I had a ticking noise when I bought the car and the tensioner was bad, in fact when I unbolted it, the whole unit split into 2 pieces. And now after 20000km I have a new yet very similar ticking, and it is the fan clutch, which I will address later in the year while I am doing the timing belts and water pump
Hi have a range rover sport with 3.0 tdv6 when purchased did hear I little ticking noise on idle it stop when I switched from 5w30 to 5w40 valvoline oil it's been 11months now never heard it again.
Hi Peter, I have the same noise on the same side (2012 RRS SDV6) and, from what I have learned, this noise usually comes from the left side of the vehicle, is clearly audible from the wheel arch, and very little from above. Mine is coming only when the engine is in temperature but, that's weird, only after a drive. If I let the car warm up without driving, the noise doesn't appear. That raises a question: If it were one of the lifters the noise would occur no matter what, wouldn't it? Another one: the noise frequency is very far from one that a 24-valve lifter would sound, too low indeed, right? Since the noise tends to disappear as the revs go up, it's hard to state that the noise comes from them, even assuming that the oil pressure rises with revs and cancels the gap. It's more like the sound of a chain with tensioners. And this will explain why the noise doesn't appear if don't drive the car but leave it warming up static. I will do some research and testing before tearing down that crap plastic covers to reach the cams. A nightmare. Thanks for your videos which I appreciate very much. Keep going. Cheers mate. Marco
@@thejack01 did you get to bottom of this pal?? I've just started hearing this ticking noise,sounds like it's coming from drivers side back wheel,it comes and goes,doing our heads in 😁
@@scottmacd31 Hi Scott, I didn't yet. To go through this I have to tear down all the upper parts of the engine to expose camshafts, chains, and lifters. As soon as I do it, I'll let you all know.
Hi Peter, I have exactly the same issue. Added also the liqui Moly, checked twice the timing (belt) but nothing helped. Now 1,5 year later the engine is currently in a rebuild and I will replace the camshaft tensioners and the chains. If necessary also the camshaft seats. Let’s see. It is a sign of the engine gets slowly warn. By the way mine is a D3, from 2008 with 160.000km.
Hello Maurice! Yes, that's also my current fear, that it's either the chains on the camshafts or the tensioner itself. I'm having the gearbox flushed at the beginning of next week and will ask the guys there to have another look at it. Happy New Year, Peter
Bin gespannt, ob das Geräusch weggeht. Auch meiner hat lt. Werkstatt ein "Motorgeräusch" (LR4 2013, 220.000 km), ich werde akustisch prüfen ob das ähnlich ist. Ich warte gespannt auf deine nächsten Videos dazu. Und natürlich Guten Rutsch und Happy 2024! Finde die Farb Kombi vom "neuen" LR4 wirklich super!
You have the same problem like me with Castrol, it's really bad quality, I had a v8 compressor and a 993 air cooled carrera, the oild pressure drops very much with heath...you should switch to motul or even better 5w40 Millers c3, I have that in my sdv6 now and oil doesn't fall apart with heath.
Hi Peter, hast du das ticken bereits wegbekommen können? ich fahre den gleichen Motor und habe exakt dasselbe klackern (auch nur von der rechten Seite des Motors) LG
Hey! Nein, aktuell tickert er immer noch vor sich hin, also nicht mehr und nicht weniger 😄 Ich denke leider mittlerweile auch, dass es die Ketten bzw. die Spanner sind oder es die Ölpumpe ist. Aber sicher kann ich es noch nicht sagen, da zwar der Öldruck schon mal geprüft wurde und dieser passte, aber ich irgendwie noch meine Zweifel daran habe. Auch wenn die Ölpumpe beim Start nach 2-3 Sekunden den Druck aufbauen kann.
Vielen Dank für die Rückmeldung! Ich habe mittlerweile die Sorge dass es vl die rechte nockenwelle ist die das verursacht (hoffen wirs mal nicht😅) Die Ölpumpe schließe ich eher aus da der ja doch vor dem Motor, glaub sogar etwas linksseitig platziert ist. Das ticken ist bei mir klar auf der rechten Seite. und mehr zu hören wenn man die abdeckung runter gibt bzw sowie du in die rechte radhausschale hinhört. Die ketten sitzen meines wissens genau mittig über dem motor, würde ich auch eher ausschließen. bleiben uns nur mehr die spamner über - werd bald einen zahnriemenwechsel machen lssen um sicherzugehen und melde moch falls das ticken dann weg ist🙌🏾😂
Hi Peter. If I’m hearing the ticking noise right, that seems to be the small chain connecting the camshafts I believe. It stretches a bit over time and then makes this sound. It’s a lot of work to replace and doesn’t actually harm the engine, just the ears of it’s masters :) same here with my RRS. Happy new year and looking fw to your new content in ‘24
Hey, thanks for your comment! I'm still not sure whether it's not a faulty or leaking injector. I've already seen some videos from other brands where the noise is 100% identical. Thanks, happy new year to you too, Peter
Hi Peter. Circling back, as I just did a service on mine and when I got home I put the hood up and noticed a pronounced ticking noise in the same location as well. Could this be because of the change to 5W40? I am almost sure this did not happen before the latest oil change. Did you get yours fixed? I’m afraid it can be something that can damage the engine.
Hi, i have the same ticking noise in my Discovery 3. I too think its the hydraulic lifters, or a timing chain issue. However, the noise is improved when i use super diesel 🤷🏻♂️ Happy New Year
Hey, I've already gone through my standard programme, which includes better oil, injector cleaner etc.. At first it was a little quieter, but over time it got louder again. Let's see if the additive makes a difference. 🥳 Happy New Year to you too, Peter
I love you channel. I have a 2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE. I have had the ticking issue for the last 120k miles (My ownership - car has 170k miles) . It is my daily driver. I am using 5W40 Castrol Magnatec DPF. I have not found the cause of the ticking noise. I will be interested how you find the additive. Thanks for great content.
Hey, I've already replaced the fog lights with LEDs. The xenons have also been replaced with OSRAM off-road xenons. I would definitely like to fit additional headlights. But I'm not sure what yet. Possibly an LED bar from Osram or additional headlights from Strands. Happy New Year, Peter 🎆
@@notthatkindofachannel sounds good Peter and likewise, Happy Nee Year. BTW if you haven’t decided on a rack yet, check out Out-Back racks, best one I have had 🤓
hi peter, I follow your channel, I would like to know about your Evoque, you haven't uploaded videos in a while, it is a very problematic engine and I would like to know your impressions as the kms pass.
Hey Jose, happy new year! 🎆 Regarding the Evoque: We sold it again as it was too confusing for my wife. We couldn't find a problem with the Ingenium engine. The only real problem with these engines are usually the timing chains. These should be replaced quite quickly as soon as they start rattling. Of course there are also problems with the turbos etc., but on the whole they work quite well. However, in my opinion, the 2.2 litre engines were better, even if they needed a good 2 litres more fuel. But as with all engines, maintenance is the most important thing. Change the oil every 10,000-15,000 kilometres rather than at the specified intervals. All the best, Peter
Hm, but then the ticking should be there from the start, or am I wrong? 🧐 And since it only occurs when the operating temperature is reached, I would rule it out. I only know the sound of a broken camshaft as a loud knocking noise. Personally, I've never heard it just ticking... Another thing I've noticed is that the ticking comes from the top right-hand part of the engine, which is where you can hear it best.
@@notthatkindofachannel I meant to say crankshaft! thats the one thing thats stopped me buying one. In fact, I almost bought a 2015 SDV6 2 weeks ago, but the dealer noticed a knocking as they moved it around so I could access it for a test drive... snapped crankshaft! (Thats the fifth disco they had this year that snapped a crankshaft!!!) either in their ownership, or theyve had to fix after selling it.
Ja das stimmt schon, jedoch wenn ein Fahrzeug so lange steht und nicht bewegt und gestartet wird, tausche ich das Öl meist nochmals nach 2000Km damit auch wirklich alles aus dem Motor kommt. 🙂
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Hello, my discovery SDV6 has 230k, I have a similar noise since 180k, I recently changed the oil to XENUM-XPG 5w40 , the noise has decreased a lot but the most surprising thing is when starting the engine, now it is much faster and you cannot hear it a rattling noise from the oil pump. I had always used Castrol 5w30 c1 oil approved by the LR. Another thing, have you seen these new NAV, I have seen that they have the 4x4 info th-cam.com/video/W9akpvqomwk/w-d-xo.html
In my opinion, you would be saving money at the wrong end with these vehicles if you didn't change the oil every 10,000 kilometres at the latest. Especially because the engines are not known to last long with poor lubrication. I don't think that 60 € for 6 litres of oil + 12 € for a new filter is expensive.
Same noise at my Disco ever since. Just drive… 😊
As mentioned by @coondog25, if the ticking is slow and regular as you describe, its 99% definitely the fan clutch. The ticking will not harm the engine but in hot climates you may find the AC does not work efficiently when the car is stationary. Ticking noises from the engine will be much faster.
Well, the ticking does get a little faster the warmer the engine gets. But not quite as fast as the revolutions of the engine itself. I'm curious to see what it will be, if I ever find out 😄
Hi Peter, I had a similar noise about a year ago on my D4. That was the small chain and we just replaced on both sides the tenioners. Noise gone. Was a lot of job but sounds better now.
Hey! Did you do the job with body on or body off? Have seen some guys who changed the tensioners without getting the body off. Greetings, Peter
2 Key elements to keeping these engines reliable is oil changes (good quality oil) and good quality fuel.
I have the same unit in my XF I also had an engine tick drive me mad.
Anyways I changed my oil every 6k miles and fuel it only on premium diesel for the last 7-8k miles and the tick has practically vanished.
These engines are quite sensitive to maintenance schedules and the intervals are far too high I think it’s 15k miles between oil changes on the XF.
Combined with cheap diesel it makes these cars run very rough it’s wrong that JLR didn’t take care when choosing this engine and its service schedule.
Mine is running sweet as anything now the ticking was suspected to be an injector.
Running with premium diesel the car is more responsive, smoother and slightly more refined especially in its power delivery.
As for the oil doing these frequent oil changes barely increases the running costs but it will make the car last a lot longer
My new favorite channel! 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks! 🥳 Really appreciate that!
Same here on l320, without any inspection I thought it might be exhaust manifold gasket? Or impossible?
Hi peter. Im loving your content as always.. i am not 100% convinced your ticking is from the hydraulic lifters, have you checked your altinator belt tensioners and fan clutch? The ticking sounds more like one of those could be the issue. If its definitely in the engine, you could switch to 5w40 oil. I find it much better, specially on a higher mileage engine. I have now 402000km on my D4 SDV6 and it runs perfectly smooth and quiet with castrol 5w40 👍🏻👍🏻
Hi, when I bought the car I immediately changed the oil to the 5W-40 C3 like our old Discovery 4. I was a bit quieter for the first 500km but then it came back. I hadn't thought about the belt tensioner yet, but it's pretty rough! Thanks for the tip! All the best, Peter
@notthatkindofachannel I would definitely check the belt tensioner. I had a ticking noise when I bought the car and the tensioner was bad, in fact when I unbolted it, the whole unit split into 2 pieces. And now after 20000km I have a new yet very similar ticking, and it is the fan clutch, which I will address later in the year while I am doing the timing belts and water pump
original engine? here of so many of these snapping cranks.
Hi have a range rover sport with 3.0 tdv6 when purchased did hear I little ticking noise on idle it stop when I switched from 5w30 to 5w40 valvoline oil it's been 11months now never heard it again.
Also I blank of the egr did an egr delete the engine loves it has more power and its better on fuel
@@dainsookdeo7086 will it work for my mom truck? She has a lr4 Land Rover with the supercharged v6
Always a pleasure listening to your vids and learning. Thank you.
Thanks Carl, really appreciate!
Hi Peter, I have the same noise on the same side (2012 RRS SDV6) and, from what I have learned, this noise usually comes from the left side of the vehicle, is clearly audible from the wheel arch, and very little from above. Mine is coming only when the engine is in temperature but, that's weird, only after a drive. If I let the car warm up without driving, the noise doesn't appear. That raises a question: If it were one of the lifters the noise would occur no matter what, wouldn't it? Another one: the noise frequency is very far from one that a 24-valve lifter would sound, too low indeed, right? Since the noise tends to disappear as the revs go up, it's hard to state that the noise comes from them, even assuming that the oil pressure rises with revs and cancels the gap. It's more like the sound of a chain with tensioners. And this will explain why the noise doesn't appear if don't drive the car but leave it warming up static. I will do some research and testing before tearing down that crap plastic covers to reach the cams. A nightmare. Thanks for your videos which I appreciate very much. Keep going. Cheers mate. Marco
@@thejack01 did you get to bottom of this pal?? I've just started hearing this ticking noise,sounds like it's coming from drivers side back wheel,it comes and goes,doing our heads in 😁
@@scottmacd31 Hi Scott, I didn't yet. To go through this I have to tear down all the upper parts of the engine to expose camshafts, chains, and lifters. As soon as I do it, I'll let you all know.
@@thejack01 good luck pal,hope I've not got same problem,sounds like it's gonna cost me 😳😁
@@thejack01 just been garage pal,they discovered a leak in the inter-cooler.waiting for a price to fix it 💸💸💸🙈😁
@@scottmacd31 Hi Scott, is the thicking intercooler related? Did you mean that?
Hi, do you check oil pressure? I' m useing 10w60 oil and is running perfect also 15w50 motul waze ok
Hi Peter, I have exactly the same issue. Added also the liqui Moly, checked twice the timing (belt) but nothing helped. Now 1,5 year later the engine is currently in a rebuild and I will replace the camshaft tensioners and the chains. If necessary also the camshaft seats. Let’s see. It is a sign of the engine gets slowly warn. By the way mine is a D3, from 2008 with 160.000km.
Hello Maurice! Yes, that's also my current fear, that it's either the chains on the camshafts or the tensioner itself. I'm having the gearbox flushed at the beginning of next week and will ask the guys there to have another look at it. Happy New Year, Peter
Bin gespannt, ob das Geräusch weggeht. Auch meiner hat lt. Werkstatt ein "Motorgeräusch" (LR4 2013, 220.000 km), ich werde akustisch prüfen ob das ähnlich ist. Ich warte gespannt auf deine nächsten Videos dazu. Und natürlich Guten Rutsch und Happy 2024! Finde die Farb Kombi vom "neuen" LR4 wirklich super!
Ich kann mir zwar nicht vorstellen, dass es verschwinden wird, aber für 10 Euro dachte ich, es ist einen Versuch wert ;) Gutes Neues, Peter
You have the same problem like me with Castrol, it's really bad quality, I had a v8 compressor and a 993 air cooled carrera, the oild pressure drops very much with heath...you should switch to motul or even better 5w40 Millers c3, I have that in my sdv6 now and oil doesn't fall apart with heath.
Hi Peter, hast du das ticken bereits wegbekommen können? ich fahre den gleichen Motor und habe exakt dasselbe klackern (auch nur von der rechten Seite des Motors) LG
Hey! Nein, aktuell tickert er immer noch vor sich hin, also nicht mehr und nicht weniger 😄 Ich denke leider mittlerweile auch, dass es die Ketten bzw. die Spanner sind oder es die Ölpumpe ist. Aber sicher kann ich es noch nicht sagen, da zwar der Öldruck schon mal geprüft wurde und dieser passte, aber ich irgendwie noch meine Zweifel daran habe. Auch wenn die Ölpumpe beim Start nach 2-3 Sekunden den Druck aufbauen kann.
Vielen Dank für die Rückmeldung! Ich habe mittlerweile die Sorge dass es vl die rechte nockenwelle ist die das verursacht (hoffen wirs mal nicht😅) Die Ölpumpe schließe ich eher aus da der ja doch vor dem Motor, glaub sogar etwas linksseitig platziert ist. Das ticken ist bei mir klar auf der rechten Seite. und mehr zu hören wenn man die abdeckung runter gibt bzw sowie du in die rechte radhausschale hinhört. Die ketten sitzen meines wissens genau mittig über dem motor, würde ich auch eher ausschließen. bleiben uns nur mehr die spamner über - werd bald einen zahnriemenwechsel machen lssen um sicherzugehen und melde moch falls das ticken dann weg ist🙌🏾😂
Hi, it could be lower oil pressure. My car was making a similar noise when idling. If I added gas the sound got quieter.
Did he figure it out I have the same thing and it drives me nuts
Hi Peter. If I’m hearing the ticking noise right, that seems to be the small chain connecting the camshafts I believe. It stretches a bit over time and then makes this sound. It’s a lot of work to replace and doesn’t actually harm the engine, just the ears of it’s masters :) same here with my RRS. Happy new year and looking fw to your new content in ‘24
Hey, thanks for your comment! I'm still not sure whether it's not a faulty or leaking injector. I've already seen some videos from other brands where the noise is 100% identical. Thanks, happy new year to you too, Peter
Hi Peter. Circling back, as I just did a service on mine and when I got home I put the hood up and noticed a pronounced ticking noise in the same location as well. Could this be because of the change to 5W40? I am almost sure this did not happen before the latest oil change. Did you get yours fixed? I’m afraid it can be something that can damage the engine.
Hi, i have the same ticking noise in my Discovery 3. I too think its the hydraulic lifters, or a timing chain issue.
However, the noise is improved when i use super diesel 🤷🏻♂️
Happy New Year
Hey, I've already gone through my standard programme, which includes better oil, injector cleaner etc.. At first it was a little quieter, but over time it got louder again. Let's see if the additive makes a difference.
🥳 Happy New Year to you too,
Peter
I have exactly the same Problem.. i hope that will fix the problem
I love you channel. I have a 2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE. I have had the ticking issue for the last 120k miles (My ownership - car has 170k miles) . It is my daily driver.
I am using 5W40 Castrol Magnatec DPF. I have not found the cause of the ticking noise. I will be interested how you find the additive.
Thanks for great content.
@@falakwaheed7333 I had similar ticking noise pal,had it in garage and had a leak in the inter -cooler....disco4
Une très bonne année à toi peter et toute ta petite famille 😊😊
Hey thanks! Happy New Year to you too!
hola el mio hace algo parecido le cambiaron bomba aceite taques y cadena del árbol de levas pero sigue igual
had the same thing its the fan cluch
Thanks for the input! I already checked that but I couldn't find a issue on that one. Happy New Year!
Very interesting- btw a great upgrade would be the powerfuluk dual LED DRL kit - installed on my D4 and one of the best upgrades this year 🤓🙏
Interesting! Which one did you use?
@@alexandermautner363 Front Bumper fog & DRL 2 in 1 LED lamps for Land Rover Discovery 4
Hey, I've already replaced the fog lights with LEDs. The xenons have also been replaced with OSRAM off-road xenons. I would definitely like to fit additional headlights. But I'm not sure what yet. Possibly an LED bar from Osram or additional headlights from Strands. Happy New Year, Peter 🎆
@@notthatkindofachannel sounds good Peter and likewise, Happy Nee Year. BTW if you haven’t decided on a rack yet, check out Out-Back racks, best one I have had 🤓
Funny that you mention a roof rack, I fitted the one from MP4x4 yesterday 😄 Video to follow of course 😉
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hi peter, I follow your channel, I would like to know about your Evoque, you haven't uploaded videos in a while, it is a very problematic engine and I would like to know your impressions as the kms pass.
Hey Jose, happy new year! 🎆
Regarding the Evoque: We sold it again as it was too confusing for my wife. We couldn't find a problem with the Ingenium engine. The only real problem with these engines are usually the timing chains. These should be replaced quite quickly as soon as they start rattling. Of course there are also problems with the turbos etc., but on the whole they work quite well. However, in my opinion, the 2.2 litre engines were better, even if they needed a good 2 litres more fuel. But as with all engines, maintenance is the most important thing. Change the oil every 10,000-15,000 kilometres rather than at the specified intervals. All the best, Peter
No one's mentioning snapped camshaft? Sometimes the break just right and keep working right up until they dont 😅
Hm, but then the ticking should be there from the start, or am I wrong? 🧐 And since it only occurs when the operating temperature is reached, I would rule it out. I only know the sound of a broken camshaft as a loud knocking noise. Personally, I've never heard it just ticking...
Another thing I've noticed is that the ticking comes from the top right-hand part of the engine, which is where you can hear it best.
@@notthatkindofachannel I meant to say crankshaft! thats the one thing thats stopped me buying one. In fact, I almost bought a 2015 SDV6 2 weeks ago, but the dealer noticed a knocking as they moved it around so I could access it for a test drive... snapped crankshaft! (Thats the fifth disco they had this year that snapped a crankshaft!!!) either in their ownership, or theyve had to fix after selling it.
Did you find the noise? I'm going crazy
Hallo Peter. Auch wenn du alle 500 km Ölwechsel machen würdest, das Öl wäre immer schwarz. 😊
Ja das stimmt schon, jedoch wenn ein Fahrzeug so lange steht und nicht bewegt und gestartet wird, tausche ich das Öl meist nochmals nach 2000Km damit auch wirklich alles aus dem Motor kommt. 🙂
Try to start the engine and open the oil feeling cover to to check noise better.
Hi, you can do it, but I'm not a fan of such tests ;) Best, Peter
Guten Rutsch 🎉
Danke Walter, dir auch!
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Hello, my discovery SDV6 has 230k, I have a similar noise since 180k, I recently changed the oil to XENUM-XPG 5w40 , the noise has decreased a lot but the most surprising thing is when starting the engine, now it is much faster and you cannot hear it a rattling noise from the oil pump. I had always used Castrol 5w30 c1 oil approved by the LR. Another thing, have you seen these new NAV, I have seen that they have the 4x4 info th-cam.com/video/W9akpvqomwk/w-d-xo.html
oil ist expensive in De, oil goes black almost straight away, Cummins being an exception, save you Euros, every 15000 km is ok in your locale
In my opinion, you would be saving money at the wrong end with these vehicles if you didn't change the oil every 10,000 kilometres at the latest. Especially because the engines are not known to last long with poor lubrication. I don't think that 60 € for 6 litres of oil + 12 € for a new filter is expensive.