Don't Get Puma-ed! Top 5 Reasons We Ditch the Land Rover Puma Engine

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  • @romedschatzer3180
    @romedschatzer3180 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I have now 300000km on my 14 years old Td4 90 and never had any issues. And it always had to work hard in the mountains of Austria. ( full power, full speed)

    • @ChrisG-pm3py
      @ChrisG-pm3py 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      300kkm on heavy 130 2.2 bas 170 tune regular services and only engine fault has been one turbo replacement at 220k. However clutch plate springs and damper have failed 7 times, surprised this weak link didn’t make the puma hate list.

  • @raymondallo9947
    @raymondallo9947 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    And then there are people who have close to 400,000 km on the engine. And please stop saying the M57 engine is rock solid. It has its fair share of problems. I had two X5s. One had fuel injector problems at 42K, oil breather problems. And my cars had all their service done at BMW on time or before, But as all engines you have to look after them. Biggest problem buying a M57 engine is getting one with a good history. Otherwise you open yourself to a world of pain

    • @allthingsmotorized1885
      @allthingsmotorized1885 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      m57's have been around longer and i guarantee have had less catastrophic failures

  • @fernandoroldan2288
    @fernandoroldan2288 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Had a Puma 2.4 125000 miles
    All the problems mentioned on this Video……
    EGR valves kills this engines.
    The air box intake is way to small the turbo doesn’t get enough air
    Injectors are bad and Glow plugs will get stuck in the head
    If you want to keep the original engine you need to
    Get a bigger intercooler
    Get a cool air intake
    Blank EGR
    Map the engine with someone decent
    Oil service every 5000
    Change the fuel filter regularly
    Pray the injectors work……….
    Not even mention the noise but that doesn’t bother me
    Now if I had the funds not M57.
    LS3 is the way to go in my opinion
    Great video as usual.

    • @wearemahker
      @wearemahker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Finally someone who’s been through the mill with a puma 😬 thanks for your honest words sir

    • @AJ-yw5zy
      @AJ-yw5zy หลายเดือนก่อน

      💯 the low saps oil is a killer on the Puma, 5,000 miles is a must, get the best oil you can afford, good diesel with a splash of millers won’t hurt. Once you’ve mapped the EGR out remove, the inter cooler and flush it out, upgrade all the inlet hoses with silicone ones.
      When you change the fuel filter I always fill with additive, give it a helping hand in cleaning the system. Oh and run it on red diesel 😂

  • @ItsAdventure
    @ItsAdventure 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The 2.2 Puma on my 2013 is awesome. Pulls like a train and returns 35mpg. Just a shame the transfer box and drive train is mashed. Still, it gives me plenty of opportunity to learn more.
    Always a plus side!
    ;o )

  • @markevans5596
    @markevans5596 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yup. My 2011 2.4 Puma killed an engine at about 75k. I would have loved to put something different in but I live in Italy and the law makes that sort of thing very difficult, plus there are no specialists like yourselves doing these swaps. So in goes a brand new stripped engine and head sent from the UK. I still live in fear of it happening again 😢

    • @wearemahker
      @wearemahker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting story thanks for sharing that. We didn’t realise the problems in Italy with the laws

    • @markevans5596
      @markevans5596 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@wearemahkerwell well, what timing, I've just killed another turbo. Or actuator, not sure yet. Last one I fitted about 18 months ago, OEM Garrett. Don't suppose you can suggest a tougher aftermarket option??

  • @Brainlixr
    @Brainlixr 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My puma engine in my citroen relay has 200,000 miles and is still going strong . Regular service is the answer

  • @captarmour
    @captarmour 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great video! will the TDI 200/300 bolt on to the 6 speed g/box of the puma? I have a good tdi 200 but a bad 2.4 puma

  • @spudboy1328
    @spudboy1328 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And that's why I sold my Puma for a Landcruiser...
    Didn't have such serious breakdowns as discussed, but numerous minor things. Lost confidence in it. That was my last Land Rover, after 20-odd years, and 7 or 8 LR vehicles.

  • @davidthomas9267
    @davidthomas9267 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don't think Ford knows how to make a good engine!!

    • @saltiresam
      @saltiresam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cosworth……

  • @terryhussein5485
    @terryhussein5485 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks, great video.
    Does the 2.4 engine have the same problems?

    • @chrisrundlett3707
      @chrisrundlett3707 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

    • @DarrenPhillips001
      @DarrenPhillips001 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve got a 2.4 tdci in my transit & I’ve had none of these problems. It had done 240k. Because a heater plug snapped off & it was bit high on emissions I took it out & fitted a replacement I had ready prepared. The new injectors were not coded & it started ( but had to do a learn process on the Autel). I’m looking forward to another 240k. The only problem with the original engine the 6mm x 100mm(🙄)injector bolt came loose once & injectors x2 bouncing up & down.

    • @tommy4244
      @tommy4244 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Basically you have described every engine fitted to all makes of car?

    • @wearemahker
      @wearemahker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Answered in this weeks Q and A video for you. On the channel now

  • @OllieHill86
    @OllieHill86 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s the going rate for the conversion to an old 200k m57 engined cleaned and dressed up? £14k plus??

  • @markriley2733
    @markriley2733 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My 2011 2.2 puma 90 is at 133k miles the last £70k with a Twisted remap. Not any big dramas in my 7 years ownership it’s serviced every year. It’s my daily drive, Should I be worried ?

    • @wearemahker
      @wearemahker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Answered in this weeks Q and A video for you. On the channel now

    • @markriley2733
      @markriley2733 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wearemahker thanks for answering my question On the Q&A Great advice thanks

  • @bentop9282
    @bentop9282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Real question is - how does it cost to fit a re-built m57 ?

    • @wearemahker
      @wearemahker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Check out the Q and A video in the coming days, we’ve answered this here

  • @dx-xb
    @dx-xb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I will believe this video 100% because they are not selling anything in it..... oh wait.

    • @wearemahker
      @wearemahker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We’re a business! It costs us to make the videos, we’re obviously going to promote what we sell. We’ve never hidden that. But what’s in this video is our real world experience. It’s not like we’re making this up…. Well, the red diesel bit but that’s our attempt at a bit of a joke.

    • @dx-xb
      @dx-xb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wearemahker sure and I don’t blame you at all for that. I’m just saying that it’s not all that bad.

    • @wearemahker
      @wearemahker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dx-xb we made this video because of the pure frustrations puma engines cause and so impractical and difficult to diagnose issues.

  • @Pete68T
    @Pete68T 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I Had a Td5 (90 and Did Not Like that Engine As Much as i Had Wanted,Oil in the Wires to ECU and it Was Thirsty.
    The Only Engines That Were Any Good Were 200&300 tdi They Were Great Engines,
    All the Old ones Were Rubbish,V8 The Best of the Petrol if You Could afford to Run it.
    Its Not Just Engines That Landrover are Useless at Making The Rest of There Work is Shoddy as Well.
    They Sold the Defender for 50 Years With No Locking Diffs !!!!Yet The Merc G Waggon Had then Straight away,Landrover Think They Know Everything about 4x4s and There Wrong They Dont and There Reliability is Shocking,But People Keep Paying Stupid Money For the Latest Thing No Matter As Most of them Have No Clue.

  • @DanHall777
    @DanHall777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve had 2.2 and 2.4
    Both have been good and reliable.

    • @wearemahker
      @wearemahker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We’re not saying they are all bad but when they go wrong they cost a fortune to fix unlike other engines we actually like the 2.2 Tdci it makes great torque when stage 2 remapped.

  • @denebradley3272
    @denebradley3272 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only like the n47 engine the timing chains are bad surely it’s down to maintence and not everybody’s got 30k to convert it to bmw engine

  • @999mrkhaled
    @999mrkhaled 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do follow this channel i think they git it completely wrong in this video

    • @wearemahker
      @wearemahker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@999mrkhaled please tell us what you think is wrong ?

  • @TheLamb6vt
    @TheLamb6vt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yup dead 2.2 at 50k 6k replacement

    • @wearemahker
      @wearemahker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not cool

  • @grahames9228
    @grahames9228 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Bit harsh.

    • @wearemahker
      @wearemahker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not after the week we’ve had with them. It’s a wonder Daves got any hair left!

    • @disco_richy6467
      @disco_richy6467 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wearemahker Send them to whichever garages look(ed) after the fleets of transits, taxis, rangers etc etc that the Puma engine has done a bazillion miles in over the last decade and a half...

  • @emp731
    @emp731 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 2.2 puma just blew up. Main crankshaft bent throwing pistons out of alignment...basically totaled motor.Just over a 100k miles or 165000 kms absolute rubbish...I blame the Ford Motor. Found On Rubbish Dump. Do not pass go, straight to jail. Do not collect your $200 . Thank you very much.

    • @wearemahker
      @wearemahker  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@emp731 now would you like a bmw installed sir

    • @emp731
      @emp731 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wearemahker Yes i do..I am in Australia tho, so not really a good option to send Defender to you BUT I may need parts to order from you at a latter stage..Thankyou.