Anti-Piracy in Nintendo 64 Games | Zelda, Banjo, DK64 + more (N64)
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In this video DidYouKnowGaming takes a look at anti-piracy measures in several Nintendo 64 titles, such as Banjo-Tooie, Donkey Kong 64, and the N64 classic The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.
Special thanks to all the data miners and curious individuals who researched these anti-piracy measures on TCRF and beyond, including Jrra, Ferrox, and RyanDwyer.
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Channels doing great I have no complaints
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More N64 please. Maybe hit up Glenn Plant for a collaboration.
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Sad. Had to click off immediately!
Imagine getting all the way to Ganondorf's tower only for Zelda to ditch you in the end.
Ganondorf is defeated in her mind, so she doesn’t need Link anymore. Wait till she finds out about that last boss XD
It IS called the legend of ZELDA after all.
True female domination at its finest.
@@djhero0071 Always found that stupid, zelda just sits around her castle all day and link gets off his ass and -gets a job- actually saves hyryle, and yet people cheer on zelda because of some prophecy so she could just laze without doing anything.
I mean, I know this comment is probably a joke but she DOES play an important role in some of the games like Ocarina of Time. It’s not like she’s ALWAYS a damsel in distress.
"it would make a great speedrun"
I like how speedrun catagories have progressively moved from Any% runs and tool assisted runs to any kind of twist that increases the runner's suffering.
Some conditions leading to a run that takes days to complete (Twilight Princess's minimalist run is rather noteworthy for this.)
Would make a cool video maybe!
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@@somebonehead While that game evokes suffering, it doesn't add twists that increase it. Actually everything in the event is designed to reduce suffering as much as possible.
Wow 12 years to crack a game's anti-piracy, that's damn impressive
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Although it played on emulators relatively fine, so I guess the emulators disable the CIC code from doing anything at all. And practically all N64 piracy would be emulation, not using a flashcart.
@@BitchChill Bitch, chill
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Was getting really tired of all those fake, clickbaity “spooky anti-piracy measure” videos that plague TH-cam, so this was a massive breath of fresh air. Thank you.
I know, right? A joke become annoying when it's taken too far.
I like those videos tbh, I don't like that they try to pass themselves off as real and people believe them
@@jorgegutierrez8588 the Mario Party DS anti piracy screen is what caused that trend to blow up. I thought it was cool but it does get annoying since now other TH-camrs are doing what Joey did.
Same Lui, I hated the tread when it started to get wide spread.
It would get super annoying everytime I encounter one.
I will admit a couple of them kept me up at night
Rare was certainly creative in their anti-piracy measures. Perhaps a bit extreme in hindsight, but it's impressive Banjo 2 took over a decade to fully crack. Interesting stuff!
Another crazy anti-piracy measure/s is from Spyro. TechRules did a video on it and the game mostly just trolls you for pirating the game. Check it out because he did an entire playthrough with an uncracked copy just to show how Insomniac went crazy with that game.
They really went crazy with Banjo-Kazooie. Remember Grunty's Code Vengeance where if you input too many illegal cheats then your save data gets wiped? What was the point of even adding in a cheat system if your going to punish the players that badly for using something the developers made?
@@YokomichiSilver laughs and gaffs. Chances are you didn't even know about them until you looked them up online
@@hentaidude666 i mean this was 1998 we're talking about here. While the internet was around you didn't have things like TH-cam or well known gaming websites. You either had gaming magazines that had the codes or had to go by word of mouth with your friends who also owned the game. Sometimes you even went with trial and error and write down your codes on a torn piece of paper and keep it with the game in it's box for sake keeping.
For us who were young at the time if we played a game, inputted a few cheat codes and were told "hey do that one more time and all your save data gets wiped" you either had the cautious ones and stopped or the ones who didn't believe and did it anyways only to come back and find everything is now gone as it said it would happen.
The developers might have found it "funny" in punishing someone for playing a single player game but it's really not.
@@YokomichiSilver you're talking about the same developers who made canary Mary, who made an actual dick in Pterydactyl land, non stop innuendos, and gay jokes galore. These guys have fun at the players expense, especially when it's a "cheat code"
I love how Zelda goes right through the bars and abandons Link. Sounds like she’s not a fan of piracy either.
How disappointed she must be in her Wind Waker incarnation
Can shape shift. Can morph through metal bars. Zelda is the T-1000 confirmed.
@@OnionChoppingNinja either that or her magic is from Hogwarts.
Would have been funnier if she raises the bars, runs through, then lowers them again.
I mean but at that point you have pretty much enjoyed most of the story, not getting to the end sucks though.
I really like when you guys talk about history of anti piracy, its really fun to learn about this stuff.
I feel like the channel is doing really well considering the downturn in interest in gaming trivia videos. Maybe it's just me, maybe I'm not so into the scene as much anymore, but I feel like when I was 14 (when I first found gaming trivia and started learning cool facts and stuff) there was so much to learn and talk about. But now it feels like everythings been talked about. And it's hard to talk about new things. But y'all have really stepped up to a scene that's losing speed, and have continued to keep putting out interesting facts and trivia. I like the channel, while others have lost me over time. You're doing a good job with what I feel like is a hard industry.
I wholeheartedly agree. I'm really sick of 10 minute videos of people reading off The Cutting Room Floor.
Imagine not knowing you have a pirated version of Ocarina and Zelda just runs off leaving you to die 🤣🤣🤣
Its pretty whack though as an Anti Piracy. It lets you play the whole game and only misses out on the final cutscene lol
@@keithgraham8588 still imagine this grand quest beating everything in your path to save this bitch and she leaves you at the end I would be pissed
Okay, the Ocarina of Time part was an absolute troll move from Nintendo towards Pirates.
Only minor incovinience and weirdness right until the finally of the game, which is the moment it is revealed you wont finish it is such a huge slap for everyone using a pirated copy of the game.
*tries to open the second gate*
“You know what? I’ll just go through this gate lol”
“NO ZELDA!!! YOU CANT LEAVE ME HERE TO DIE!!!!!”
You are able to glitch through it though so that didnt stop all.
I've always believed the theory that these antimeasures were in place to make pirates admit to their piracy in public. Like somebody posting on a official forum to ask "Why aren't the bars moving up when I play LoZ" and you instantly know that they've pirated the game.
And then what?
@@alibaba3568 _"I don't know... I didn't think I'd get this far."_
@@alibaba3568 and then developers/people laugh at them.
@@Redhollow for being a pirate? That doesn't make sense
@@airhead7379 yes... because they think it's a glitch in the game so they ask openly. But everyone knows the truth-that tried to steal the game and now it doesn't work.
Makes perfect sense to me. It's like someone breaking into a store to steal a phone, and then going to the store later to ask why the phone doesn't work like the ones that are activated.
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When threatened, Zelda can spit venom up to 25 ft.
Never get tired of this guy saying "Ocareener of Time"
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Me too . Exactly how I felt . I love this episode
I love how he said "what the hell are the CIC chips"
Also the content as usual is great!
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The DK 64 Anti piracy method is pretty genius when you realize the game will naturally freeze itself up if the console is constantly on.
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"...Making the fishing game [in Ocarina of Time] impossible." As if it wasn't already a huge frustrating pain in the a-- that I usually skip in casual playthroughs
It really seems like the director had some weird obsession with the fishing minigame.
You know, this episode makes me wonder if the copy of Shrek 2 for the Gamecube I owned as a kid was pirated... When I was a kid, I didn't like salmon, so my mom said she'd buy me a copy of Shrek 2 for Gamecube if I ate salmon at my Granny and Grandpa's house. I ate it and the next day we got a used copy from EB Games. The reason I think it might have been pirated is there's this outer-castle stage where once I reached a certain point where you were supposed to enter the castle, the game wouldn't allow me to progress. I couldn't restart the chapter, I couldn't switch teammates to make it through. Reading gaming magazines, I'm apparently the only person who had this issue.
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My favorite thing is when the developers just love to mess with people when they try to pirate their games
I do like how anti-piracy measures double as an opportunity for the developers to do a little trolling. Someone at Rare certainly had fun with it.
Problem was that a lot of rare n64 games came out faulty and the antipirate would activate even on original versions. Same with oot, but less often.
Ofc its like a small percentage of less than 0.1 - still an inconvenience for the og versions
11:05 wow, actually kinda creepy watching Zelda just run off through bars leaving Link alone... forever...
Wow! So, Rare, had the incredibly tough anti-piracy measures, when they were the first to break Nintendo's own NES anti-piracy measures, to make their own games? They'd impressed Nintendo so much that they became one of the first 3rd party publishers for the NES.
No way they'd do that nowadays xd
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Pirates: I'm gonna ma-
The CIC chips: Let me stop you right there!
It’s interesting because it’s anti piracy, but since it has such a unique turn on the games, it almost makes you want to pirate the game
This explains why i could never keep a save file on dk 64 neat
the contacts could also just need cleaning.
Did you know? The N64 is already 25 years old. .........Damn.
fishing is actually still not impossible if you can hook a fish for 2.5 secs im pretty sure in a speedrun optimal fishing will have a fish hooked for less than a sec
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Ye I'd love to see more on the side of say Sony/Microsoft stuff or whatever
Well, I think it’s also because their Nintendo videos are usually the most watched. I remember Game Theory admitting that he makes Nintendo theories a lot because the fans just love those videos. Could be DYKG’s plan too.
@@angel-of-light-kelly1355 Hence my comment about stroking the algorithm.
@@ReaverPrime Not so much stroking the algorithm as much as stroking the audience
Good point! Might also be there childhood systems.
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I want videos videos on series that haven't gotten videos in years (Kingdom Hearts, Ratchet and Clank, Halo, Mortal Kombat, Marvel, etc.) And videos on series that never been covered (Sly Cooper, Psychonauts, DC comics, Transformers, etc.)
But, I still love the channel. Learning about obscure trivia in any game is a treat.
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The channel's going well, dude. Same high production value and quality content as ever, and the topics haven't become stale. Not much to say except, keep it up!
I think the use of the term “backup copy” is misused here. That implies the person has a legitimate copy and that’s an assumption that shouldn’t be made. We’re talking about piracy here after all.
Playing Rock Solid from Conker's Bad Fur Day midway through the video was a nice treat
This channel is practically a modern internet institution by this point in my eyes... I honestly don't know what you could do to change or improve things for the better.
Uh, maybe a few videos on board games based on video games and vice versa?
I still like DYKG as a snacky little trivia thing about games. You guys do fine work, keep it up. :3
Loved the video! Too bad about not getting the Perfect Dark footage though but it's cool.
Love being reminded about balls and pubic hair when i wanna see some n64 content, keep up the good work.
Honestly, I am enjoying myself. The only thing I would comment is that I enjoy the extras as much as I enjoy the regular videos.
I doubt they'll see this comment but anywho, the channel overall is still at it's prime. Still learning more about my favourite games and many games I never heard of, knowing more trivia about old consoles. This channel is still bloody amazing.
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Its really heartwarming to see that Polygon "journalists" are still getting jobs recording gameplay for DYKG.
No anti piracy measure compares to UNDER NIGHT IN-BIRTH Exe:Late[cl-r].
The stuff you see is straight out of a creepypasta story and so spine chilling that I won't blame any pirates to buy a legit copy after seeing it.
I've learned more about my favorite games and different things about them, like hidden codes or even something as simple how the game operates with anti-piracy in place. You guys make it interesting and fun. Especially with your guest appearances, like the completionist or Matpat to name a few. You guys are awesome and I hope you guys find more fun facts to show us as newer games come out or newer consoles
This was a great subject to cover! Had no idea these measures were in place.
This channel is so well produced and a total classic that I’m just consuming these on autopilot. No idea why I’ve never thought to comment on these before. Solid work. Would like to see more indie horror coverage though.
I thinking the channel is going good. I had no clue about the anti piracy measures the 64 had in place.These end of the video conversations are especially enjoyable.
It would have been nice if you mentioned how the doctor 64 existed as a floppy based piracy device in the '90s for the Nintendo 64. But live and learn
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I got a copy of Banjo Tooie that periodically deletes one of my savefiles. I had always assumed the previous owner had done some sort of hacking that triggered this as a defense measure. I was still able to beat the game by continuously copying to other savefiles as backup, but it was a constant threat that the next time I'd boot it up, the file I'd been using could be gone before I had a chance to copy it.
I find it funny that all these n64 games have anti piracy measures, which emulation COMPLETELY circumvents. It's hilarious to me.
(pausing at about 0:45, so my apologies if this topic is covered better in the video): in my early days of emulating games, i was pretty convinced that one of Zelda:OoT's "pirated proofs" was in the Fishing Pond...of course, in a normal, legit game, you can go fishing for two prizes-- a Heart Piece as a child, and the Golden Scale as an adult...however, on the emulator i was playing on back then, it seemed like i could NEVER get the record-breaking fish to bite, let alone be successfully caught...but then again, considering how Little youd lose from the game (the Child's Heart Piece, as well as the Heart Piece from diving to the bottom of the Lakeside Lab with the Golden Scale), maybe it was just bad RNG...
Feedback? Segments on lesser known, weird games or controversial games would be interesting
That's not an antipiracy measure, Zelda is just puffing up to look more intimidating against natural predators
I don't know if it tells you anything, but you're always the last channel I watch before bed.
I was hoping Zelda would have Ganondorf's face in the Sheik reveal at the end 😂
They could have just called this video "Rare's Anti-Piracy measurements", but then they wouldn't have been able to put Zelda onto the thumbnail, and I have the feeling that was really the only reason.
As a Nintendo fan, these really interest me. Obscure game facts, developer stories, development trivia… anything that would make me say, “Did you know…”
Yeah, you guys are doing great.
What kind of Nintendo are you?
smashing it gents. Would be great to see a did you know about piracy in general. First pirated games? Games from older consoles still to be cracked?
My favorite videos are these anti-piracy ones or the one about strange glitches or Easter eggs. Anything hidden away that the average player might not notice
You guys are doing fine.
Don't let the algorithm get to ya. The world is very hectic right now. Once everything calms down you'll see more people coming back your way.
Even old viewers will have the chance to marathon all the videos they missed.
Cheer up, guys.
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These videos are always so relaxing. None of the information is important, but all of it is of some minor interest. Pretty nice to watch while eating lunch
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some of the guests i don't care about, but i could listen to your voices all day long :)
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Channel is awesome, and content is always a joy to watch. Only thing I could think of to make the videos better would be adding timestamps to skip intros and possibly ads, because sometimes I don't have too much free time but still wanna watch your vids, and skipping through intros is a tad annoying. Other than that, A+ all around!
Im pretty sure most advertisers dont allow timestamps for skipping. They have to inspect the video to make sure the product is shown in the way it was intended, therefore you couldnt put timestamps.
@GamingNubs
With the way TH-cam handles ads it would probably just play them each time you jump ahead.
The bigger issue is getting people to watch the whole video for the engagement. TH-cam tracts how many people watch the entire video and all that sorta stuff.
Why pick such a lame weapon to be your profile? Might be cool after the buff tho…
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Since you asked…
I like this channel. It’s a good mix of education and entertainment.
That said, I often am focused on either entertainment (Scott the Woz, Outside Xtra, AVGN) or education (Gaming Historian, Summoning Salt, Karl Jobst).
I also feel sometimes the video titles/subjects kind of blend together, to the point I’m not certain what I have/haven’t watched.
It’s amazing how game systems are made - with all the chips and cartridges working together for our entertainment . It’s wizardry
I think the channel is good. I really like learning these weird facts and trivia about gaming history
I only pay for TH-cam Premium so I don’t see ads, so thanks for putting the ad right in the video for me to skip!
I remember the things that occurred in Zelda. Back then I thought, crappy emulation was at fault. In order to handle the impassable bars, I left and reentered the scene, and then they would disappear. However by doing so, the timer would run out, so I used game genie codes to boost the time.
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I think you guys are still doing a bang up job on these videos. I may not watch every episode as they air, but I've always love DYKG.
I didn't know Ocarina ended in r. "ocariner" 10:19
JFG also has some checks that will randomly empty the current weapon or softlock the game on a CIC mismatch.
I'd love to see you guys do a video on the Klonoa series.
DYKG cannot be replaced by any other youtube channel.
So Id say the channels doin just fine
Comfy videos.
I still to this day think that if a game company is successfully sued for some kind of wrongdoing, one of the punishments that should readily be used being loss of the privilege of using anti-piracy for some amount of time. The company would have to release all current code, so all current methods they're using can be circumvented, and new games would not be allowed to have ANY anti-piracy measures included for X time.
(This should have been inflicted on Nintendo as punishment for their anti-competitive response to try and snuff out game rentals, for example.)
Diddy Kong Racing also seems to have an additional measure.
It's possible I'm wrong about why this happens, but here goes:
Everything plays normally until you reach Wizpig.
No matter what, Wizpig always remains ahead of you. Making the race impossible.
To answer the video question, I'm still enjoying this channel but I really miss when you made more videos talking about specific games. There's a lot of great ones with tons of trivia you haven't covered yet, like Tomb Raider: Legend, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Astral Chain, etc.
As for feedback, I'll say this is one of my favorite channels to see during a slow work day... easy to pause but always entertaining and fun.
Damn, Zelda just went Super-Saiyan.
Early on an DYKG vid, cool.
Suddenly my experience of using a Doctor 64 back in 1999 makes sense!