Big Agnes Tiger Wall vs Marmot Superalloy 🤯
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Thanks for the tip Dan! But is it just me or is Marmot quick to respond to the upcoming hype because the Superalloy is now $399 on their website
That’s crazy! It was literally 299 for the past… Forever! They must’ve changed it this afternoon! It's still a great tent and likely a better option for most people if you can get past the neon color.
Right that is crazy. I guess the tables have turned on pricing - the Superalloy is now $399, but the Tiger Wall 2 is currently on sale for $299 at the REI website.
Ooh, hmmm....so if the BA UL2 is on Sale at REI for $299 (assuming that info is correct and price verified - Edit) and Marmot now at $399 AND BA UL2 has been Proven, as evidenced by Dan's (much appreciated, BTW) testimony, I would lean more towards the BA UL2 (Privacy and Color and proven quality vs. 4 OZ of the not yet proven). Make sense?! Either way, thanks Dan!!🙂😁👍🏼🙏
Yep, Tigerwall 2 is on sale at REI right now.
If you really want to go light the Fly Creek UL2 is on sale for like $260 now at REI
I just ordered the superalloy tent after seeing your and another's review!!!! can't wait to test it out! I also found out that, kammok makes a water resistant field blanket that fits the bathtub floor perfectly; and they have it in colors to match the tent!!!
How is it?
I got the eureka suma. BRIGHT GREEN. Took some getting used to. Now my whole sleep system is the same color. I will never lose it !
I wanted to get that. Suma 2 Eureka .... That's the (only) thing holding me back. I like to sleep in... The sun on that green will probably make the interior of my tent super bright ... ? How do you like it so far ???? Thanks !!!!
@@esc8722 I love the tent easy setup and fairly light weight. I don't sleep in but it's not as bright as you think. I did just get a 1 man tent but not because I don't like my eureka. Love the tent.
I wish that I had known about the Marmot tent 2 months ago when I upgraded from a 1p to a 2p tent. 😟 My bucket list for a tent, in order, was well-rated, less than $500, as close to 2 lbs as possible, door on each side, double walled, and free standing or semi-free standing. For a double walled tent, I wanted a rain fly that went all the way to the ground. I couldn't find anything with all 7 so I gave up the last 3 in order to get the first 4 and went with the Gossamer Gear The Two. The Marmot tent looks like it meets all 7 criteria.
Backcountry Gear has Marmot still at $299, on backorder. I see the Marmot at 2lbs.4oz trail/2lbs.11oz packed and the Tiger at 2lbs3oz trail and 2lbs8oz. packed. Can't find the material types. I'm assuming sil/nylon but are they 15D or 20D? The Marmot let so much light through on you interior video I'm guessing it has thinner material. What about the bathtub thickness? Ground sheet needed or not, that is added to total weight for comparison. 2P tents don't seem to weigh that much more than a 1P and you get so much more room. I've been trying 1P, 1 trekking pole tents but I think a 2P semi free may be a better way to go. ( 6', 200 lbs. person) Like your honest reviews. We'll all be happy to get back on trail after this "timeout" we're on.
Thanks for doing the review. I have a Marmot EOS 1 and having used it for 4 years I have found it to be a very high quality tent. My only complaint about the EOS is that it the headroom isn't great and it is a bit cramped. I've been looking at the Marmot Tungsten 1 person tent as well as the Superalloy. I'm not a fan of the color of the Superalloy but all of the other attributes seem perfect. Hopefully within the next year or so Marmot will change the color.
Thank you for this! Even thou it’s an old video, I learned a lot!
BA fly creek ul2 is lighter by about 4oz - the extra zipper for the 2nd door is probably what makes the Tiger Wall a bit heavier. And since a 2p is really a 1+p (I'm 6'2" also and totally agree with you on 2 not fitting in a 2p tent) so the extra door doesn't matter to me. So I'll stay a Fly Creek fan
Thanks man, great video 👍 I have the tigerwall 2 also, and their platinum version is only 2lb 4oz but I never could justify the extra cost even though I like its greenish color better than that bright yellow. I like my tigerwall but Im still struggling to get used to that double zipper door, I put a msr glow in dark pull on just one so I know which way I’m tugging on them in the middle of the night.
To clear up the price issue comments,
Marmot had a 25% off sale that ended yesterday so it’s now $399 The BA TW2 is actually now on sale at REI for $299 because they’re running a 25% off sale on tents.
Dan, the weight you mentioned in the video for the Marmot of 3lbs 4oz is the min trail weight - max weight is 3lbs 11oz, or 3oz more than the BA TW2 when comparing the max weight (including stakes, stuff sacks, etc.)
Great in-depth review though - I also had no idea the Superalloy existed until now and have been researching tents like mad! Would be great in the future to see you set the tents up - even if in 2x or 3x speed - just to get an idea what’s involved. Hard to find video review that include set-up, breakdown, and then packed size.
Great videos, Dan! I went back a year and watched a couple episodes about cooking gear. What about backpacking meals? Maybe a review of Mountain House vs Backpackers Pantry vs PackitGourmet, etc.
Great review. In Europe both tents costs the same around 430€ at the moment (End of April 2020)
Bought the SuperAlloy and the Sierra Designs Meteor light 2p.
While I loved the SuperAlloy and I liked it way better than the Bolt I ended up returning, it is claustrophobic. The Sierra was much bigger, much more durable fabrics, fully free-standing and the difference in weight was like 6 or 8 oz. Returned the SuperAlloy.
For a superlight tent I just scored a Marmot Force 1p for $100; which weights about 2lbs and is basically the same size of the SuperAlloy. Only major difference is the Force only has one door.
My biggest complaint about the Big agnes is you can't see through the inner door. sometimes it's buggy and I just want to lay down and relax in the tent and enjoy the view.
Exactly my problem with it!
then what tents are you using now, want to buy a tent can enjoy the view too !!
@@SuperKaizi I started using a MSR Zoic for canoe camping when I’m likely to be camper in a spot with a nice view. It is heavier but I can deal with that in the canoe.
@@bryan6449 thanks man, i am going to do a research about this tent then!!
Some people would consider that extra bit of 'wall' a positive.. more privacy and a bit of wind protection with the fly off.
Hey Dan, thank you for the review! I was just checking the Superalloy out on Marmots site and am very interested. Have you used it much since your review? How do you feel about the quality?
Peace to you.
$299-$399? You're a market maker now!! Hey, great review on some really nice tents and thanks for reminding us you're 6'2", it makes a big difference on fit for some of us (I'm 6'3" and feel the pain of short clothes, gear, etc.).
Awesome! Due to setbacks, having to rent for my first trip coming up but options to upgrade to BA or the Marmot. So excited. If we had a choice what's better for two in your opinion? The Dan. You DA man!
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I got an amazing deal on a Tigerwall UL3 with BA footprint, brand new, $325. Mainly got it based on your reviews, I'm looking forward to years of use, looking forward to your reviews in the future.
Marmot do some solid gear, real world reviews, thanks Dan and keep it going.
I’m a huge fan of marmot! I love my lime lite 4p for me and the kids!
Yes very very good knowledge to know... we always camp out on the beach and needed some new info on tents..
Mountain Hardware Viperine, heavier but free standing, I dont think they make it any more but it is a true two person free standing tent, mines forest green and wonderful
No one talks about the Scout. Great tent!
Great video as always Dan. Like to suggest you check out and review the gossamer gear “The Two” - seems to fly under the radar similar to the marmot. Non free standing, but under 2lbs and comfortably fits two grown men from my experience. I’d love to see more people enjoy it like I have, maybe you can spread the word 😉 Also happens to be on sale right now!
I just upsized from the One to the Two and really like the Two. It's palatial compared to the One. I'm still working on getting the pitch just right. IMHO, Gossamer Gear quality is topnotch. My pack is the Mariposa and I absolutely love it.
I wish you would all a wind and water test to this. Tents with wider/flatter roofs tend to collect water. They also catch the wind so you have to guy them out more.
It's ambiguous in the specs, but if the alloy is like marmot's other ul tents then the fly fabric is pu rather than sil nylon. If that's the case, that would be another significant diferentiating factor as pu has some benefits vs sil nylon (such as not stretching as much when wet).
The website now lists the rain fly as PU, so you are correct.
9.25 marmot is bending in the wind
Dan is it possible To ad metric measures for us international viewers, thanks? Great vid 💪💪
Thanks again Dan for a SUPER informative video! I appreciate all your effort reviewing these!
You are the one who talked me into buying the tiger wall. After years of using the same tent lol. Now, already a new tent!! I've only been able.to use the tiger wall once lol!!!
Hi Dan I was looking at the the Big Agnes tiger wall platinum crazy light 2 person 2 doors double wall the weight 1 lb 10 oz its expensive at 549.00 REI, and Amazon carries it. I wanted it so bad due to the weight. I didn’t purchase it due to cost. I went with a Henry Shire Tarp Tent Notch it was on sale 284.00 1 person 2 doors at 27 ounces. I thought it was reasonable for the price for the weight. I made some concessions with going with a 1 person vs a 2 person vs budget. I did look at the marmot superalloys as well I have to say I like it and was considering it thanks to your videos. I agree with you for what you are getting for the cost and extremely budget friendly and the weight it’s hard to beat. I already have a 3 F UL 2 person tent. The 3F UL tent, I believe weights about 2 lbs 6 oz which I love ❤️ but I wanted something really Ultralight under 2 lbs. I was going to take it on the Appalachian Trail . My plans are all postponed due to stupid coronavirus.
Both tents are great lightweight options, but I wish they came in OD Green or Tan.
Marjie Cleveland the REI quaterdome is almost identical to the Big Agnes and is OD green.
Great review....the one thing I noticed that you might thought about were the solid fabric sides of the inner (Big Agnes) and that would possibly cut down more (cold?) breeze from under the rain fly than the Marmot tent. Certainly not a deal breaker for someone (not me:).
That’s possibly true! Especially when it’s windy. I suppose that’s why it’s important to pick up a great camp spot :-)
I've always liked marmot, they don't get enough love; most of my tents are from them. They have the best prices and easiest pitch out of all the tents in the market.
Which tent is more durable? Which tent is more storm worthy, ie holds up better to wind and rain? Nice video, btw. Too many people on TH-cam lack your charisma and shouldn’t be making videos. You could go real far with this! 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video, but you never seem to talk about any of Rei's tents, I would love to hear your opinion on these 2 tents compared to the Rei quarter dome SL2.
I just ordered the Tiger Wall UL2 today from REI for $299. And the footprint for $52. Free shipping.
The green though.. I think it'd drive me crazy. It's just very very green. Safety green!
Big Agnes made the walls completely mesh now. Disappointing. It didn't save them any weight either. Not sure the Tiger Wall has anything on the Super Alloy now. The trail weights are actually the same, but the packed weight (stuff sacks, stakes, guy lines) are a couple oz heavier on the Marmot. Not a big deal since they can be upgraded anyway. The tents themseld weigh the same, & the Marmot has much more interior room.
I just checked both of these tents out, same morning you posted this, and they are both exactly the same price... $399. The only place I found the Marmot in stock was at their sight. There aren’t available on Amazon at the link you provided. If you’re willing to get the Mountain Glow color I’ve actually found it’s about $50 less. The information was great though, really enjoyed the video.
Yep I saw that too! They literally changed the price this afternoon. It’s been 299 for several weeks. I updated the title.
I'm surprised you haven't reviewed the Nemo Hornet 2 yet--not that it's too much different.
Yup! My heart breaks a little whenever the Nemo Hornet 2 is overlooked. It's admittedly a little tighter than the BA, but it's lighter and has been around longer. The updated TW2 was arguably a response to the Hornet and its double vestibules.
You've mismatched specs: Trail Weight, Marmot SA 2lb 4oz, BA TW 2lb 3oz Packed Weight, SA 2lb 11oz, TW 2lb 8oz. Better bust out your scale. I dig Marmot, but everything from clothing to sleeping bags to tents have always been over weight.
I love the Kyle Hates Hiking style thumbnail!
I know your not the biggest fan of hammocks, but what are your impressions of tentsile “hammock tents”? They are 3 point hammocks basically.
If color is an issue, why not tint or dye it with a shoe polish or something similar. i haven't done this, however, it would make a great video experiment.
Pockets on the superally? The TW has awesome high pockets at the head and mid. I never lose my gloves now. The superalloy doesn't seem to have those pockets.
This is a great review man!! Stoked to have found your channel!
Congrats for the vid. I'd like to start. Between the two, Which is the lowest part of the tent that is stronger?
In the UK the price is the other way round and Waaaaaaay more expensive generally.... £380 for BATWUL2 and £470 for MSA....
Ooooo the Marmot matches my pack 😍😍💚
I'll stick with the BA. Nice find though!
Dan awesome videos! You should review the Rei Quarter dome SL2. Really similar to the Tiger wall but way cheaper, I just bought it for $259 (on sale). I think its an underappreciated tent!
Diego Soffia Absolutely. The color is better too.
I've owned both and actually prefer the REI Quaterdome. It's cheaper, has a couple of better features, better interior pocket for watching videos, and MUCH better color.
@@3smoke I agree! I'm really loving the REI already (only been able to test it in my backyard though).
take a look at the NEMO Hornet Elite 2P Tent, if you like their mat, then you are going to love this tent aand i love your content
Every website, including Marmot, states that the packed weight of the Superalloy is 2lb 11oz. The Tiger Wall packed weight is 2lb 8oz. The minimum trail weight on the Superalloy is 2lb 4oz, that's not what you'll be carrying on the trail. So the Tiger Wall is actually 3oz less packed weight.
You're always better off upgrading sacks, stakes, & guylines anyway. The tents themselves are the same weight at 2 lb 4 oz.
the tent cost $399 on the marmot site as of 06/30/2020
I think you misrepresented the weight of the Marmot tent vs the BA. Did you independently weigh the tents? The min weight of the Marmot tent is 2.4 and the min weight of the BA tent is 2.3. The Max/Packed weight is 2.11 for the Marmot and 2.8 for the BA. The BA is lighter and the same regular price.
REI Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL $299.93 today! Just ordered mine! 11-17-2020
Great video / review! How do they hold up in wind? I live in CO and the higher up I go, the windier it gets ;)
The BA walls that offer privacy also block air flow, miserable on a hot, muggy night..
That Marmot sure is interesting!
The BA tent is lighter than the Marmot. This review is BS. they are the same price but the BA is lighter...
Dan, can you comment on the Marmot after using it for the past few years? Wondering how
It holds up in weather, etc. Thanks!
Thanks for the tip and info. Great video.
I'm considering the REI Co-op Quarter Dome SL 2. The main contender, in my decision-making, is the BA Tiger Wall UL2. I'd be interested in hearing from anyone here who has compared the two. Really like what I've seen on reviews of the Big Agnes. (And the BA seems to be one of the more popular backpacking tents currently in use. I'm sure there's a reason for that.) Really like what I've personally experienced with REI gear.
And great vid, BTW. That Marmot may be something I'd recommend to my Scout troop to get them out backpacking without breaking the bank.
I don’t own the REI Quarter Dome SL, but did a bunch of research before buying a 2P tent. The one complaint I’ve read about it is the top edge of the rain fly doesn’t extend far enough past the bottom of the inner tent. As a result, every time you open the rain fly while it’s wet, it drips water into the tent. If you are using it for 2people the water drips onto your sleeping bag. Probably not a big deal if you intend to use it solo, but i was looking for a tent to share with my 10yo son.
@@jonsanford2515, thanks. Probably solo 99% of the time, but with the ability to squeeze an extra person in there if necessary.
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Does the Marmot come with its own footprint? The one thing that prevents me from using any tent other than BA is that I can take down the body of the tent independent of the fly and footprint. This is very important when backpacking in the Pacific NW when rain is a possibility all the time. I am able to take down the body of the tent, pack it away and keep it dry and separate from the fly/footprint for the next night.
The Marmot is actually half the price of the Big Agnes in Canada! Thanks for the suggestion
If you ever bought a tent before 2000, you would know the meaning of A bathtub floor is a floor that comes up with the same material any amount from the floor. 8:42, so this is a bathtub floor.
I like the superalloy space, and lack of privacy, but not for the privacy, but because I like waking up and being able to take in the views lying down relaxing or before going to sleep with the fly off.
Had the Tiger Wall as well but the door on the fly drove me insane. Why couldn’t they just extend the zipper more. It ended up getting returned, that’s how much it bothered me
It's still $299 on Enwild.
Another reason 2020 sucks: The Marmot raised in price $100 so now they are priced the same.
I still love my 2015 MSR Hubba Hubba green 2 man tent. You never review MSR tents why. I myself wouldn’t buy a new MSR tent but I haven’t been able to see one in person.
Good review. Why does no one look at the REI Quarterdome SL2. It’s 2 pounds 8 ounces and the price is very affordable.
ive been searching for a review of the superalloy.. ty
Is there any Chance there will ever be a comparison to the top tents. Talking Hilleberg ...
Nice review. I picked up my BA for 300.00 at REI on sale so I am good. Take care.
Just ordered the Marmot.
Do you think the Marmot would be ok for a couple with light bike packing gear?
I just got the tigerwall and just wondering what the two line lock looking things on either side of the tent are for. Every time I see it set up people just have it raveled up
How has the alloy performed in heavy rain? Wanting to use it on the WCT but nervous as I’ve heard the rain fly sticks to the inner mesh? Thanks!
Looking up the specs on both, they are both just about the same in every way, except the Tiger Wall has a calculated floor area of 28.07sf, and the Marmot has a calculated 25.38sf. They're within an ounce of the same weight and within 95 cents in price. What's the big deal?
They weren't within 95¢ when he made the video, it was 100$
Thanks Dan for the tip. Have you used the tent so far? If yes, what is your experience and your impression overall? Is it quality wise as good as the Tiger Wall Ul2?
Would definitely like a follow-up.
Love your show Dan, you talk a way which I understand completely. The prices now reversed the tiger wall is $382.46 and the marmot is now $399.00 go figure. So would you still switch with the prices almost the same?
The new Big Angus tiger wall 2 carbon is $999.95, have you tried this one yet? Any interest?
Both tents are amazing. Marmot has the same floor space but more head room. The carbon version of the tiger wall looks cool but SUPER expensive and I’ve heard very delicate. Good luck!!
Another great review Dan!
I'm not sure how well you've set each tents up for the video, but right around the 19:18 timestamp, the Marmot tent appears to be buckling in the wind, and it doesn't really look to be all that windy. The Big Agnes tent didn't seem to be affected by the wind.
I'm wondering the same thing. I remember seeing the tent being blown around a bit when I originally watched the video, was it edited out? The video is only 11:32 minutes long now
@@AB-ly7to - My bad. the buckling occurs at around the 9:18 timestamp, not 19:18.
Bad news for us. Marmot not offering it in the coutnry I live in. Instead there is the Tungsten, which weighs 3lbs 3.8oz. Not sure why that should be.
Maybe that "LOVELY" neon green will fade away from the sun... 🤠
you should look the Naturehike cloud up 2 10d version is very light
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Any updates on the superalloy?
what do you think of marmot superalloy vs nemo hornet?
backcountry shows that the marmot isn't lighter so I'm a bit confused. Is there a different source that says otherwise?
He confused the packagws weight with the actual weight of the tiger wall itself. The tents themselves actually weigh the same at 2 lb 4 oz. Although the packaged weight of the Marmot is 3 oz heavier (stuff sack, guylines, stakes) which you're always better off upgrading anyway.
11:09 White one looks brighter actually
You've been super awsome, but I have found a cheaper floozie, typical! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Hi Dan. Great content 👍. Have you used a Big Agnes Copper Spur tent?
Yes. It’s a great tent.
@@DanBecker So I've heard. What are your thoughts of the CS vs the TW for 2 persons? I feel the extra rigidity of the CS will offer a tad bit more living space making it just that little bit more comfy for 2 at the cost of the extra weight. Your thoughts?
Is it just me or does the super alloy rainfly look thinner compares to the BA?
Great product and review Dan
Awesome review/first look!
Terra Nova have a few semi-freestanding tents that is even lighter, and they have carried them for years, so there is lighter.
Are they better?
I don't really know, but they have a few disadvantages.
They are 1 door tents, with the door at the head end of the tent.
They are WAY more expensive.
They have super thin and small tent stakes.
I own the Terra Nova Solar Photon 2, and it seem to be slightly smaller, even though it should be about the same size as the Tiger Wall, possibly because it's higher at the head end and a bit low in the foot end and also the one i own has a dark green outer tent, so being darker may make it seem more cramped.
I'm not out to sell anything, I think the Marmot tent seem awesome, about half the price of the cheapest Terra Nova, roomier and just a few ounce more weight!
Just saying, there is lighter tents on the market.
Guess we can call the Zpacks Duplex with the Flex Kit a semi freestanding tent too, it should come in at about 2 lbs on the dot once stakes is added, give or take an ounce depending on the stakes choosen, but that is about 3 times more expensive!
In my opinion, the weight penalty alone isn't really big enogh to go for any of the above over the Marmot, unless maybe for someone who do a long thru-hike or something like that where litterally every ounce count! 😀
Could you show the set up of tents?
Omg marmot is prized at $500 now on Amazon
One of the zippers on my big agnes tiger wall came off one side of the track. Is there any way to fix this or do I just have to send it in?