Hahahaha… yes they almost destroyed the sound recording… 🤣 The mosquitoes wasn’t so bad at all. They were many of them but they didn’t bite me! Maybe because of the Nitecore EMR40? /Matti
This is a very good review that highlights some of the sacrifices that a user has to make to have an ultralight tent. Where I live we can go months without rain and wind is pretty predictable so a tent like the Tiger Wall can be a great choice. It can also be very warm, even at higher altitude, so the more mesh the better. One thing I'd like to mention is that I camp on sandstone sometimes and it is like sand paper. It will rub a hole through even a heavy backpacking tent floor eventually, so I prefer a lighter tent floor with a footprint that I can replace easily. I use a SOL brand emergency blanket for the footprint because they are cheap and relatively durable. Great video Matti.
@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Hi! Great video! How tall are you? My height is 186 centimeters, will I be comfortable in it in length? How long will the mat fit in it? Thank you
@@Atlantis109 hey, i have this exact tent and i am 187 cm. i was sleeping there even with another person and my mat is 196 and 7 centimeters. There is still some room left. in terms of room this is a great tent, especially when youre alone. If you're together with another person it still fits but you have to like each other :)
I bought that tent from REI used, the zipper had come apart. I was able to get it back together but that zipper is a known weakpoint on the Tigerwall, so be careful opening and closing it. I rubbed candlewax along the teeth to lubricate it and it works better.
I love this review. I can see where it would fall short. It looks awesome to me but it is a good reminder that if I want a perfect tent for desert camping it may not work for the mountains. I may need two 😅
Excellent review,. You covered all the points. I, for one, want my tent pegs to stay in the round all night so I normally put a heavy rock on top of each peg. Never have I had to get out of my tent at night to re stake a peg that has pulled out of the ground. Warm Regards from far away Reno, Nevada.
I'm glad you've managed to survive the "manflu" 🙂 Great review. I was considering this tent and have eventualy bought Nemo Dagger Osmo 2p. Bit heavier bit different. I am happy with it for now.
Very good, & professional tent demonstration, Matti...👍 From the sound of it,... It would be a very good southern equator type tent to have, in the south, in warmer climate... Take care, & keep making these awesome videos...🙂
This and cupper spur was two of the tents I looked at when i bought my tent….I went with the opposite a 4kg heavy HB Staika since I bring my kids and they want the ”secure” feeling of ”closing the door”. Also I will use the tent for kayak so I need a self supporting tent and weight is not an issue. First night in the tent last night, temperature drop from 24->17 degrees and rain but no wind so we got rather much condensation on the inside of the outer tent but nothing on the inner tent. But I was happy for getting the HB and not the BA.
This is a very helpful review. I live where there’s always a lot of rain and humor and I don’t think this will be the best for me. What is your favorite summer tent?
Thank you for the review! I had already bought the Tiger Wall UL3 for me and my girlfriend before and we intend to hike the Massive Trail in Norway next Summer. Are you really recommending me not to do that and to buy another one? By the way - I use own stakes for the fly and the inner tent shares the stakes with the footprint. Like that I have a proper separation.
I tried this tent but it is not long enough for me (which is the case for most lightweight tents). I am 196cm and use a neoair xterm pad which is about 6cm thick. Ended up buying the long version of the copper spur and that works really well.
regarding pegs: isnt the titanium long (20 cm +) version the best all aroung option? you can hammer them in with a rock, if you put them in deep they are even rather stable in soft ground, ciao from germany
Good vid Matti. Dog gone skeeters carry you off. All good points on tent. The zipper set up sucks. Eat alive when you need to run out and pee. Bad very bad. No vents in roof, unheard of. Not for me. Hey take care. Bring dog next time too many bears. Later from Kentucky USA
Hi Matti, love your reviews and videos. Have you heard of the Durston Xmid 1 and 2 person tents? It would be nice for you to use it for a year and do a review.
With better pegs and longer lines, etc, then the weight will not be very much lighter than the Rogen. I would rather carry 0,5 kg extra and have a tent I can rely on. 😉
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Minimum weight is 1.9 kg without spare rod and extras. 2.2 kg with everything. But then there is a 3 person Rogen weighing 2.2 kg stripped down. I use Enan for extreme light trips, Unna for solo winter trips and Rogen 2 for solo summer trips. Air flow is important in summer, something Rogen can provide even when raining, I just leave the entrances closed half way even in rain.
I have this tent in the ultralight dynema version. I cut those little triangles so I could close the two zippers together. I sent the tent to a repair place to add an upper zipper on the interior so I could look out. On my version the whole interior is thin solid fabric. I had the repair people add mesh to the upper door so I could see out at all in good weather. I stake the back corner fly on a separate stake from the inner. After all this the tent is functional and very light. I took it on the first part of the Kungsleden. The tent was not adequate for the wind. I had to use trekking poles to support it under the fly. There are not adequate upper level tie outs. Strings tied to the roll up loops just ripped off. The trekking pole handle ripped through the fly so I had to tape it during the night. Nonetheless I stayed dry more or less. Most other people in heavier tents bailed out to the warming hut. You can be creative to make an ultralight tent work but you may destroy the tent in the process. I have given up on the tiger wall except under very mild conditions and when is mildness guaranteed? I’m still looking for the perfect tent that is lightweight…
I guess a big problem also is when one try to put up the tent when it rains. The inner tent must be built before the outer tent. On my Hilleberg the poles is on the outside of the outer tent. Because of that I can build the outer tent to get shelter and still have a dry inner tent. Thanks for the reviews from a Skåning.
You can pitch the flyer and the floor if you want. That’s not a problem. The big problem comes when you want to make this in combination with heavy wind… You can see that if you check the review of Big Agnes Copper Spur at our channel. 😃 /Matti
Fiddly! Thanks! I’m really got like a goldfish memory. Now when you write it I think I have heard it before. Thanks for helping out with my Swenglish! /Matti
Proper love this guy, none of that bullshit you get from some of the U.S hiker or U.K wildcamping scene. Take this guy's word over any of them.
Spot on!
Really proper review. Practitioner oriented, no nonsense, no influencer bs, very useful. Thanks a lot, Matti.
Thanks for super nice words!!!
/Matti
i cant stop laughing at the mosquito sounds. Thanks for sticking it out and giving us the review
Hahahaha… yes they almost destroyed the sound recording…
🤣
The mosquitoes wasn’t so bad at all. They were many of them but they didn’t bite me! Maybe because of the Nitecore EMR40?
/Matti
I was starting to scratch😅
This is a very good review that highlights some of the sacrifices that a user has to make to have an ultralight tent. Where I live we can go months without rain and wind is pretty predictable so a tent like the Tiger Wall can be a great choice. It can also be very warm, even at higher altitude, so the more mesh the better. One thing I'd like to mention is that I camp on sandstone sometimes and it is like sand paper. It will rub a hole through even a heavy backpacking tent floor eventually, so I prefer a lighter tent floor with a footprint that I can replace easily. I use a SOL brand emergency blanket for the footprint because they are cheap and relatively durable. Great video Matti.
Thanks!
That’s a really good explanation why a thin floor + ground sheet is a good combination for you!!! That really makes sense.
/Matti
@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA Hi! Great video! How tall are you? My height is 186 centimeters, will I be comfortable in it in length? How long will the mat fit in it? Thank you
@@Atlantis109 hey, i have this exact tent and i am 187 cm. i was sleeping there even with another person and my mat is 196 and 7 centimeters. There is still some room left. in terms of room this is a great tent, especially when youre alone. If you're together with another person it still fits but you have to like each other :)
I bought that tent from REI used, the zipper had come apart. I was able to get it back together but that zipper is a known weakpoint on the Tigerwall, so be careful opening and closing it. I rubbed candlewax along the teeth to lubricate it and it works better.
I love this review. I can see where it would fall short. It looks awesome to me but it is a good reminder that if I want a perfect tent for desert camping it may not work for the mountains. I may need two 😅
Tack för info!
Excellent review,. You covered all the points. I, for one, want my tent pegs to stay in the round all night so I normally put a heavy rock on top of each peg. Never have I had to get out of my tent at night to re stake a peg that has pulled out of the ground.
Warm Regards from far away Reno, Nevada.
I'm glad you've managed to survive the "manflu" 🙂 Great review. I was considering this tent and have eventualy bought Nemo Dagger Osmo 2p. Bit heavier bit different. I am happy with it for now.
Very good, & professional tent demonstration, Matti...👍 From the sound of it,... It would be a very good southern equator type tent to have, in the south, in warmer climate... Take care, & keep making these awesome videos...🙂
This and cupper spur was two of the tents I looked at when i bought my tent….I went with the opposite a 4kg heavy HB Staika since I bring my kids and they want the ”secure” feeling of ”closing the door”. Also I will use the tent for kayak so I need a self supporting tent and weight is not an issue.
First night in the tent last night, temperature drop from 24->17 degrees and rain but no wind so we got rather much condensation on the inside of the outer tent but nothing on the inner tent. But I was happy for getting the HB and not the BA.
Ahh, that is a desert tent. Very limited use up here in Sweden. Thanks for an interesting show of the tent. 👍🏻
Great review Matti
Matti, thank you for such a comprehensive review (as always). What brand is your hoodie by the way?
This is a very helpful review. I live where there’s always a lot of rain and humor and I don’t think this will be the best for me. What is your favorite summer tent?
Have you ever tried the Bonfuls ultralight shelter? Would love to hear you about this!
Thanks for the videos!
I have never heard or tried that one… I will keep my eyes open.
/Matti
Thank you for the review! I had already bought the Tiger Wall UL3 for me and my girlfriend before and we intend to hike the Massive Trail in Norway next Summer. Are you really recommending me not to do that and to buy another one?
By the way - I use own stakes for the fly and the inner tent shares the stakes with the footprint. Like that I have a proper separation.
I tried this tent but it is not long enough for me (which is the case for most lightweight tents). I am 196cm and use a neoair xterm pad which is about 6cm thick. Ended up buying the long version of the copper spur and that works really well.
196 is really a big Viking!!!
:-)
/Matti
Hey...waiting for snow, the perfect mosquito repellent.
great review thank you for that but your mosquito 's where making me crazy , you know scratching
Danke!
regarding pegs: isnt the titanium long (20 cm +) version the best all aroung option? you can hammer them in with a rock, if you put them in deep they are even rather stable in soft ground, ciao from germany
Thank you 🙏!
I hear the mosquitos. Your area must be like northern Minnesota in the USA. The mosquito is the state bird😊.
Hahahaaaaa…
State bird!!!
🤣
/Matti
Could you put the extra floor inside ? at least in bad conditions like rain?
I use the extra floor under the inner tent.
/Matti
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA I mean to save time from a heavy rain, jump in the tent then unfold the extra floor.
“That hole was made from border collie who make burn out in tent” 😂
Good vid Matti. Dog gone skeeters carry you off. All good points on tent. The zipper set up sucks. Eat alive when you need to run out and pee. Bad very bad. No vents in roof, unheard of. Not for me. Hey take care. Bring dog next time too many bears. Later from Kentucky USA
Hi Matti, love your reviews and videos. Have you heard of the Durston Xmid 1 and 2 person tents? It would be nice for you to use it for a year and do a review.
With better pegs and longer lines, etc, then the weight will not be very much lighter than the Rogen. I would rather carry 0,5 kg extra and have a tent I can rely on. 😉
How much is Rogen?
For Scandinavia you are probably totally right!
/Matti
@@JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA
Minimum weight is 1.9 kg without spare rod and extras. 2.2 kg with everything. But then there is a 3 person Rogen weighing 2.2 kg stripped down.
I use Enan for extreme light trips, Unna for solo winter trips and Rogen 2 for solo summer trips. Air flow is important in summer, something Rogen can provide even when raining, I just leave the entrances closed half way even in rain.
I have this tent in the ultralight dynema version. I cut those little triangles so I could close the two zippers together. I sent the tent to a repair place to add an upper zipper on the interior so I could look out. On my version the whole interior is thin solid fabric. I had the repair people add mesh to the upper door so I could see out at all in good weather. I stake the back corner fly on a separate stake from the inner. After all this the tent is functional and very light. I took it on the first part of the Kungsleden. The tent was not adequate for the wind. I had to use trekking poles to support it under the fly. There are not adequate upper level tie outs. Strings tied to the roll up loops just ripped off. The trekking pole handle ripped through the fly so I had to tape it during the night. Nonetheless I stayed dry more or less. Most other people in heavier tents bailed out to the warming hut. You can be creative to make an ultralight tent work but you may destroy the tent in the process. I have given up on the tiger wall except under very mild conditions and when is mildness guaranteed? I’m still looking for the perfect tent that is lightweight…
I guess a big problem also is when one try to put up the tent when it rains. The inner tent must be built before the outer tent. On my Hilleberg the poles is on the outside of the outer tent. Because of that I can build the outer tent to get shelter and still have a dry inner tent.
Thanks for the reviews from a Skåning.
You can pitch the flyer and the floor if you want. That’s not a problem. The big problem comes when you want to make this in combination with heavy wind… You can see that if you check the review of Big Agnes Copper Spur at our channel.
😃
/Matti
Meckigt==fiddly
It's ok. Might help someone who doesnt speak Swedish 😀
Fiddly!
Thanks!
I’m really got like a goldfish memory. Now when you write it I think I have heard it before.
Thanks for helping out with my Swenglish!
/Matti
If only my bed sheets were color coded.
Useless tent when it rains as the outer tent is not connected to the inner tent when set up?😢
Umm? That's how a rain fly works and is pretty standard, the rain fly totally covers the tent
@@Kephartable Look at Hillebergs great solution then you understand me...🙂
Had to stop watching can’t handle mosquitoes.