Gear to AVOID! And What You Should Get Instead.

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  • @MyLifeOutdoors
    @MyLifeOutdoors  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    *Gear I would Avoid:*
    MSR Freelite: geni.us/9CCOW
    BA Prospector: geni.us/KGGb4fe
    Insulated V: geni.us/xv9Bn
    Jetboil: geni.us/fwXq5lh
    Flexlite Air: geni.us/t5kqG
    *Gear I would Get Instead:*
    Exos Pro 55: geni.us/OlmFdC
    MSR Windburner: geni.us/i8ez
    Pocket Rocket Deluxe: geni.us/1YRnL
    Pocket Rocket: geni.us/raKi
    Toaks Pot: geni.us/yMC4t
    BA Rapied: geni.us/uxsingJ
    Chair Zero: geni.us/LR2hUH
    MHW Strato: geni.us/akDF

    • @MrRoosterfoot
      @MrRoosterfoot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just out of curiosity I have a toaks pot and a soto amicus stove and the pot seems to let off a real bad smell when I have used it. Is this normal ?

    • @aapottaone
      @aapottaone 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i love my jet boil. while your drinking instant coffee, im using the french press option

  • @jjhikespa3600
    @jjhikespa3600 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +522

    I love my Jetboil and I have never spilled a pot of boiling water on me due to the locking feature of the system, a very important safety feature in the backcountry. Most of your choices are a pass for me which just emphasizes how everyone has their own preferences and priorities in choosing their gear.

    • @matador483
      @matador483 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      Totally agree. The jetboil is fuel efficient, safe, fairly light and I’ve never had any issues. It’s a weird take on this vid. And I’m a professional backcountry guide.

    • @Gandhiownsyou
      @Gandhiownsyou 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      To each their own, but I’ve never spilled a pot of boiling water on myself either due to the safety feature of I don’t spill boiling water on myself. It’s not terribly difficult or complicated to just set up your stove on a reasonably flat, level surface. Totally fine if it’s important to you to have extra safety checks, but it’s also a valid opinion to think that it’s overkill, and a lighter, smaller, cheaper system is perfectly adequate.

    • @MakeCriminalsIllegalAgain
      @MakeCriminalsIllegalAgain 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Gandhiownsyoujetboils the only one that allow you to do peppamint hot chocolat in the tent, IN the sleeping bag, no worries to spill it boss

    • @andrewcheng1998
      @andrewcheng1998 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@matador483 tbh it sounds less cool to use jet boil rehydrate/boil food than actually cook something in an easier route.

    • @jonnythelegs2597
      @jonnythelegs2597 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      He's only really slating the fact that the build quality doesn't really meet the cost well compared to others, in use it is a very efficient design and I agree the build quality of the actual burner does feel a little on the entry level side, the pots tho can't really fault them.

  • @willeverett9233
    @willeverett9233 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    My wife and I are set on our gear, with no need to buy anything soon. Yet here I am watching the whole video. I love your content. Thanks for all your work you do for this community!

    • @WoodswomanWrites
      @WoodswomanWrites 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here. I enjoy these videos that are both informative and fun.

    • @Ukraineaissance2014
      @Ukraineaissance2014 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've always used army surplus and love it.

    • @mikedaknight8854
      @mikedaknight8854 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There’s always fabulous new gear to admire

  • @nilredowski
    @nilredowski 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    2:46 I have a jetboil and i've been using it for over 3 years on different hikes. I highly recommend.

  • @TH-sp5xw
    @TH-sp5xw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Years ago I bought a cheap 2lb chair from Amazon for about $25. Last year I bought the Flexlite from REI on sale at $60. I found it to be unstable. So I took the base from my Amazon chair and put the flexlite seat onto that and now I have a REALLY comfy and sturdy 1.5lb chair.

  • @chrishessey9733
    @chrishessey9733 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Hit the tent with your hand and get the water off. Then open the door. It works for me.

    • @PonkazArt
      @PonkazArt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Just heat i was about to say 😂 Not a big deal

    • @owenblount7334
      @owenblount7334 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Modern problems occasionally require monke solutions

  • @bjf10
    @bjf10 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    I love my Jetboil stash. I got it on sale for under $100 a few years ago, and it's super efficient, fairly lightweight, and has a bunch of features I really appreciate like the fact that the pot "locks" in to the burner, dramatically reducing the likelihood of spills. It's not perfect, but it's a nice balance of weight and features for me.

  • @tylerslater9448
    @tylerslater9448 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The tarp tent double rainbow DW 2023 fits two wide pads and is only ~2.5 lbs. Can be made fully free standing w/ trekking poles too if you need to pitch on rock or in a place where you can’t stake it out well.

  • @Minette203
    @Minette203 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    5'7 110 lbs woman here who is always freezing (I sleep in a wool hat even during summer camping) and I never had an issue with the Klymit V's heat rating. Been getting my best trail sleep with it actually! however i use a sleeping bag, not a quilt.

  • @streamstripper
    @streamstripper หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are the videos I need in my life! Awesome job and thank you! These are all items I'm looking for and you gave me more confidence where my money is spent!

  • @phd001
    @phd001 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I have that static v pad and have used in many time down to freezing levels and had no problems. I find it really comfortable too. I do use a foil ground cloth under it though so that’s bound to reflect some warmth.

  • @GeorgeBeck100
    @GeorgeBeck100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Thank you for your advice on the MSR Freelite 2. If the only thing you can find wrong with the tent is water off the rain fly (which is easily solved with a slap) then this must make it the best semi freestanding tent in the world !!! I'm gunna buy it and just give it a good slap now and then 🙂

  • @GryphonIndustrial
    @GryphonIndustrial 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Can confirm on the insulated static V. That being said I got mine cheap so I'll keep it for a summer pad but its definitely not great below freezing. Got four hours of sleep in 18 degrees but was in a four season tent and a sleeping bag rated below 0 degrees.

    • @osvaldopulido2553
      @osvaldopulido2553 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've slept on mine at around 26F in a 0F bag in a summer tent with no issues multiple times.

  • @roberttolley5055
    @roberttolley5055 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm new here, watching your videos. I'm disabled so neck back injury due to wreck on highway with a tanker. So I have to car camp. I use slightly heavy ER, slightly cheaper. I pack backpack in jeep. No back packing. But learning what to gear gather in finding what it takes to work. I been collecting 10 years. Getting ready spring camp in central Ohio. Unless super heat wave comes high 40s night time . Love videos on gear

  • @DubTDub
    @DubTDub 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Steven! Always enjoy your content!

  • @Dante07cid
    @Dante07cid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I love my Jetboil(s)! Also have FireMaple equivalents. Like them both.

  • @mikekingswood
    @mikekingswood หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice to see unbiased reviews! I sometimes wonder if the people who design outdoor kits, actually do any of these activities 🤔 One of my bugbears, is tents with a door that falls inwards, especially during rain.

  • @kevinb1756
    @kevinb1756 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I like my Jetboil but I agree, a bit pricey. I’m sure the MSR is great but I’ve been more hesitant with MSR products. They use to make some of the best snowshoes but when they started outsourcing production, the quality/reliability dropped all to save a buck. Since then, it left me with a more negative view. With that said, some items are probably just down to personal preference. Love your videos and input.

  • @groundfloorguthrie
    @groundfloorguthrie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Appreciate the alternative suggestions!

  • @techguy9023
    @techguy9023 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the Caldera cone. On an early Spring hike my Jetboil burner ( like a Pocket Rocket burner only) wouldn't vaporize the fuel. Yes alcohol is slower but the cone was a great wind shield. We were able to make a dehydrated breakfast in below freezing temperatures.

  • @user-tz4xx8ly1l
    @user-tz4xx8ly1l 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Agree 100% on the freelite. I had a few more issues with this tent (leakage, low quality zippers) but MSR in Ireland fixed that at no costs. It is weird, because every other MSR product I have used so far was great.

  • @brucefehr6407
    @brucefehr6407 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have used the Klymit V multiple times in 20 F weather, always stayed warm.

  • @fischy_boy_
    @fischy_boy_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was on an expedition with canadian army cadets this summer and we used the msr freelight and the jetboil. He was right about the tent there was one day where it was raining and the water seeped through the ground tarp and got me and my tent mate wet and when we opened the door it got our heads all wet. The jet boil we absolutely loved though. We had another stove and for 90% of the expedition we used the jet boil and it never failed us once. We were a team of 6 people (not including the lt because he had his own) and each time we used it it boiled two meals worth of water so we were using it 18 times a day for two weeks and it only went through 1 and a half fuel tanks and always boiled our water within 5 mins.

  • @user-oc2om4jy5z
    @user-oc2om4jy5z หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wanna let you know that opening transition instantly made me subscribe XD God bless man

  • @ESCAPETheGreatOutdoors
    @ESCAPETheGreatOutdoors 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I use a Klymit insulated static V on a regular basis down to 0°C where based on my personal experiences the limit is reached. I on my behalf would still recommend the static V down to 5°C without any hesitation making it a decent affordable lightweight small packing 3-season sleeping pad.

    • @LaconianConcepts
      @LaconianConcepts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I couldn’t agree more! I bought it as a placeholder for a more expensive pad as I don’t sleep on the ground often… but I was pleasantly surprised. It was really comfy and kept me warm into the low 40s/high 30s F without much work.
      Honestly I love my flex light chair too… and I don’t personally use a jetboil but all my friends I backpack with do and I have no problem with it as a system. In fact I use the same pocket rocket deluxe and toaks combo he mentions in the video (highly recommend and I have a dedicated video on that subject in fact).
      It just goes to show you preferences are 90% of what is “good”.

    • @nicholasmapes
      @nicholasmapes หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think bag choice has a huge impact, that being said, ive had my static V insulated luxe down below freezing and havnt had an issue. For the size/weight/price its a great option. Spend more and get a better one, but in my experience the klymit meets my needs

  • @ethanshenk2058
    @ethanshenk2058 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am leaning into backpacking/camping alot lately since becoming an adult and missing those camping years so looking for probably late season gear and love content walking into this first video

  • @Andy-Mesa
    @Andy-Mesa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    You failed to mention the REI Flexlight Air is lighter than the Helinox, and twice the leg angle which for some (like me) is more comfortable. I also like the fabric better on the REI. Ryan Jordan of Backpacking Light did an amazing video 4 years ago comparing the two chairs, and ultimately it comes down to personal preference and body metrics.

    • @paulhad9823
      @paulhad9823 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am 180 lbs and had the REI Flexlight break the first time I used it.

    • @SunkenCitiesMusic
      @SunkenCitiesMusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I personally prefer the front to back under support of the flexlite because it’s more stable when you lay back. Both are fine chairs I do agree it’s preference. I often don’t take chairs backpacking because I hammock camp, but if I know I’ll sleep on the ground… I bring the flexlite!

  • @srt5321
    @srt5321 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. Fun production format.

  • @tanvach
    @tanvach 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have both Helinox zero and flexlite air chair. I actually prefer the flexlite air when sitting, it feels less pinched by the aluminum poles when I sit and also weighs less. One problem is that it takes more space to pack up.

  • @izaak1509
    @izaak1509 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have used a jetboil on a few motorbike camping trips and it’s been great.

  • @benjaminjeanes998
    @benjaminjeanes998 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used both flex lite and zero chairs a lot. And in shifty sand or soil or uneven land I found the REI chair's side to side tilting is easier to control than the zero having front to back tipping

  • @spencerpearson1321
    @spencerpearson1321 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I use the static five insulated Luxe and I love it for winter camping. Winter is usually when I camp the lightest. I have a tarp that’s a space blanket on one side and I usually set all my gear on one side of the Mylar then fold the tarp over and pin it with two stakes through the corner grommets. with that set up I usually only need a wool blanket And some pillows down to like 10° and my mummy bag if its colder

  • @JamboEcho
    @JamboEcho 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The wind burner is the best stove on the market imo as long as you want to carry that weight. I miss mine tremendously. The cost is a bit more than a jet boil unless it recently changed. Last I saw was $170. I bought an off brand jet boil and it just as good as any jet boil I've used and I only paid $40. Been using multiple times a day for the past year and zero complaints.

  • @northdiver62
    @northdiver62 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Would love to see you test some Decathlon backpacking gear!

  • @football1347
    @football1347 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like the honest genuine review. Idc if it cost more but what won't let me down on the trail!

  • @20Hikecdt23
    @20Hikecdt23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sure would like to see you review Six Moon Designs tents. Thanks for the informative video. I enjoyed it.

  • @brettfichtner8407
    @brettfichtner8407 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    About that insulated mattress: the R value is different than the RSI value because they are different units. R is imperial (ft2·°F·h/BTU), RSI is metric (m2·K/W)

  • @candytechadventures
    @candytechadventures 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Huge fan of the pocket rocket! Super light and easy to use.

  • @GoodkatNW
    @GoodkatNW 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Super strange to see the flex lite listed here. We own two, and at least a few of our friends also have them. After 30+ trips over the past year, there is zero damage and everyone has found them incredibly comfortable (we also got them for around $70 during a sale). Feeling premium and actually being durable aren't always the same; our Zero had bent poles and a hole in the pocket after less than 6mo (and nobody over 190lb sat in it).

    • @ronin3377
      @ronin3377 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He’s a little on the heavy side so that is probably why he feels those poles he complained about. I’ve had both and I prefer the REI

    • @takl23
      @takl23 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Came here to say to say the same thing. The rei chair is comfortable and light. I’m built like a running back and weigh 210lbs and I’m fine with it. 😊

    • @GoodkatNW
      @GoodkatNW 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ronin3377 Yeah, I've noticed that he advises against certain items because of a very specific (and individual) dislike that doesn't affect most people. Another example was complaining about great 2p tents because they don't fit 2x extra wide/long pads. If people didn't ever buy items that don't fit large/extra large folks, the vast majority of backpacking gear wouldn't ever be recommended.

  • @dez410
    @dez410 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I'd like to vouch for the Klymit Insulated Static V...I have used this 4.4 R rated pad with a 15 degree sleeping bag multiple times in temps between 1-10 degrees Fahrenheit and had absolutely no issues what so ever other than my nose getting cold (outside of the bag). I used it inside a tent as well as on top of the snow with a military surplus bivy. I liked it so much I bought a second one as a backup. This is coming from a guy who also has the thermarest X therm and still will use the Static V above zero degrees over the thermarest due to comfort. Just IMO, and I am in no way, shape, or form affiliated with Klymit.

    • @Eli-234
      @Eli-234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree, it's still a budget pad, but it does the job and is pretty decent value for money. I've been down to similar temps, and It starts to become uncomfortable or me around -15C.

    • @UnderbeIIy
      @UnderbeIIy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve used mine in temps of -20/-25C (-4/-13f).
      12 day stay so we had the luxury of prepping our area before setup

    • @67L48
      @67L48 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If I test my product and it has a rating of 1.9 but then I put a sticker on that product that says 4.4, what is my product rated? The answer is somehow 4.4, apparently.

  • @yukondave8389
    @yukondave8389 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Same happened to my Helinox chair too! I didn't even see any ambers or anything flying close to my chair, yet I woke up to a small burnt hole. It's easily fixable, but it shouldn't happen so quick.

  • @STAR-RADIANCE
    @STAR-RADIANCE 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My Marmot Limelight has a rain fly like that, I just tap it in a few spots and the rain runs off. Not sure if that’ll work on the MSR but if it good in all other areas, it’s worth taking the time to tap on the rain fly.

  • @natehikes
    @natehikes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I carried the Static V2 on the LT was shocked how cold I slept. Haven’t tried the insulated, as it still seems to be a warm weather pad (shoulder at best).

  • @AkshayKumar-ev5rx
    @AkshayKumar-ev5rx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If possible, please do a video on the Nemo tensor extreme conditions sleeping pad.
    The last one was nice but it was a pre-pro model,the testing with the freezer was kinda flawed and it wasn’t given a shot in real world conditions.
    There’s only like 4 videos on youtube on it and non have the signature MLO feel to them. Nice videos. Keep it up😊.

  • @TFBlack-ix2cs
    @TFBlack-ix2cs หลายเดือนก่อน

    I understand your points with the jetboil but I can say I had one for 7 years and 2 deployments with the Marines and still use it to this day while doing storm work for the power company. I’m sure there are better options but it has served me well

  • @CookingMike
    @CookingMike 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i really like my rei chair. packs nice on my bike and perfect for day trips .

  • @colinheyl7245
    @colinheyl7245 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I absolutely love my Jetboil. It's served me very well so far.

  • @wolfeadventures
    @wolfeadventures 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Flexlite Air is fantastic especially on sale.

  • @aaronwinter447
    @aaronwinter447 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a Static V regular because it was cheap and I could abuse it when I was travelling. I could lay directly on ground, gravel, concrete floors, etc and it held up. It wasn't as comfortable as my other pads at the time, but I was too afraid to do that with my expensive Xlite or QCore pads. Static V regular is a decent budget pad for summer use, I added a closed cell foam to get a bit colder use, but I've never tried it in winter.

  • @morganleanderblake678
    @morganleanderblake678 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @Imbatmn57
    @Imbatmn57 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldve gotten a smaller tent but i knew i wanted at least 4 ft high inside because i didn't want to be claustrophobic,i also wanted it to have more space if i went camping with another person or more gear. Its not so big that it wont fit a 8 by 10 tarp underneath so i think its a good size. It also has a mud mat and has a canopy over the door.

  • @rym6829
    @rym6829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just got the Wawona 6 tent from North Face (I know NF is kind of just a luxury eye catcher brand) but overall it seems super nice it has a solid big vestibule too so rain getting in is no issue.

  • @Oldsparkey
    @Oldsparkey 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    99% of my gear comes from Garage Owned shops not the Big Named places. One exception is the ancient ( seemingly indestructible ) self inflating , mummy style ,Therm-a-rest mattress , full length. Plus I hammock camp because most of the places I go the ground is wet or swampy. I also find a hammock offers a lot more comfort ( ventilation ) then any tent which I use now and then. The air mattress is about 75% inflated so it conforms to the hammock and my body.

  • @bearbirdnjungle
    @bearbirdnjungle 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great appreciation for your content. Sincere thank you! Friend has jetboil. I have a pocket rocket. Awesome and a fraction of the cost.

  • @AnabolicRick915
    @AnabolicRick915 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a knockoff jet boil called “fire maple” from Amazon. Got if for sale and paid 40 bucks and it’s probably the best purchase I’ve ever made as far as camping gear goes. Planning out meals is so easy now and I don’t need to get a fire going or lug a big camping stove around with me at camp. I’m not a backpacker I’m an overlander so space isn’t necessarily an issue nor is weight but the convenience is still second to none

  • @WasatchWill
    @WasatchWill หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used a Klymit Static V Ultralight Insulated pads on a late August trip to Red Castle in Utah's Uinta Mountains. Paired it with a 20 degree Teton Sports Altos down sleeping bag. Woke up to a well frosted camp and partially frozen water bottles. (Temp was about 28 before sunrise) I never had a shiver with it. I think the baffles or air chambers really are well insulated, but where it's not insulated (the channel welds between the air chambers) the down bag did well enough to fill out those spaces, enabling a somewhat effective use of the insulation from the bottom of the sleeping bag. I think that's the expectation with the design of that pad. So it's definitely not something you'd want to pair with a quilt in anything below 50 degrees or so but with a puffy down bag, it's probably fine down to at least mid to upper 20's. That said, I wasn't a fan of the valve system so it has been shelved in favor of some other pads I have now.

  • @foybert
    @foybert 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like my klymit pad a lot. That said most of my camping is in the summer months.

  • @hypo345
    @hypo345 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never used a jetboil but I created something similar with a SOTO Windmaster with tri flex pot stand, an Optimus windshield plus an anodised HE aluminium pot. This didn’t cost much less than a small JB system although my setup is more flexible.

  • @BinManSays87
    @BinManSays87 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've got the prospector 50 it's great, like anything you're buying know what you're getting

  • @sendmeyourcat8391
    @sendmeyourcat8391 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I'm gonna have to disagree with this take on klymit's static v insulated. I've used it down to -5°C which was pretty chilly but I found it perfectly usuable for temps just below freezing with an appropriate sleeping bag (quilts will definitely not work). I do prefer to sleep slightly cooler, on my side, don't move in my sleep and I'm kinda small so that all plays a big role. What I really like about it is that it's reasonably warm (for me), packs down small, decently light and incredibly affordable compared to other about-freezing-temp pads. I definitely understand why it's so polarising though, and Klymit's marketing is absolutely scummy as heck.

    • @Intentionally-wild8175
      @Intentionally-wild8175 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you put anything under it? I have the non insulated one and I put a Nemo folding pad under and slept fine at -1 degrees.

    • @zakafx
      @zakafx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​​@@Intentionally-wild8175I have taken the pad down to the -15C/-20C range. Nothing underneath. It worked. -28C was a big no no (went inside). As of recent, I have placed a CCF pad underneath.
      Do I recommend this pad for cold weather camping? Absolutely not, if anyone I know that was looking for a warm pad I would recommend something else for sure. I went down that whole Klymit rabbit hole and have since kind of stayed away from them when it comes to colder temps.

    • @sendmeyourcat8391
      @sendmeyourcat8391 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Intentionally-wild8175 nope, but I try to avoid wet ground in winter if possible

    • @professionalschizo
      @professionalschizo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@jennysweitzer8175 I used mine in the Army, combined with the issued sleep system (Goretex bivvy bag, thick winter bag, thinner summer bag) everywhere from Iraq to Alaska, and honestly never had a problem with it. I've slept in -35 with it and am still here to talk about it.

    • @_andy_gibb_
      @_andy_gibb_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do like the fact it's light and packs down small, and find it generally pretty comfy to sleep on, but my experience matches Steven's in that I find it sleeps colder than is comfortable for me, so much so that I've given up on it after only 3 years of use, which was disappointing. I think you're right in that it just depends on your warmth requirements.

  • @agtrails6948
    @agtrails6948 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love sub 10 minute videos! Good job 👏

  • @CoachWolfe
    @CoachWolfe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got the REI flex lite chair because it fits my back better. As a WIDE individual, it's far more comfortable.

  • @782hrr
    @782hrr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve had the same gear for years… if it works..it works..
    Msr hubba …jet boil…Kelly metal frame 70…the only upgrades I’ve made is for hot tenting and bought an alpaca wool blankets and made anarak out of it

  • @beardedtacoma
    @beardedtacoma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Thanks for the reviews

  • @peterjohnson6273
    @peterjohnson6273 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always good, Steve. Thanks.

  • @stefank4959
    @stefank4959 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tent! Telos TR2 from Sea to Summit! Light, super comfortable and durable!

  • @redblackthorn
    @redblackthorn 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I own a flexlite chair, 100% agree, though you missed the worst aspect, the switch in direction makes it incredibly easy to topple, I've never seen someone sit in the chair for more than 10 minutes without tipping over

  • @mr_cleaner_upper8645
    @mr_cleaner_upper8645 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have a Freelite2…. When I grab the zipper to open up, I give it a few pulls, the water drips off the door and I open the door and no water enters. It isn’t an issue at all.
    I’ve done this same thing in every tent I’ve ever owned (because I am tall and always brush against the fly getting in and out) to minimize water getting on me.
    I am gobsmacked reviewers have not figured out this one simple trick.

    • @alisonmlewis4825
      @alisonmlewis4825 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, my first thought when he mentioned the water coming in when he opened the door was “Why doesn’t he just give the door a few taps to dislodge the water before opening it?”. It would only take a second. Sure, it would be better not to need to do it, but it’s hardly a deal-breaker.

  • @wisenber
    @wisenber 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not a big fan of sleeping on the ground, but my Klymit is one of the few ways to be relatively comfortable as they are about the only ones wide enough for someone with broad shoulders. A 25 inch pad has my shoulders drooping off the sides causing my arms to fall asleep.

  • @buildwalls2001
    @buildwalls2001 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do not disagree with your points at all, I really enjoy your videos and you sharing your experiences!
    I kicked the snot out of my Jet Boil backpacking in New Mexico for 12 days! It really held up to my abuse. In all fairness, some of the other folks had whisper lites and those were a fraction of the cost and weight. I didn’t have to pour and pump white fuel.

  • @yuegan1939
    @yuegan1939 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm about 100 lbs and I love my Flexlite Air, but I agree Helinox Zero feels much more stable.

  • @rosslouden5981
    @rosslouden5981 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I use my Klymit insulated static V lite in temperatures frequently down to -3°C with no issues whatsoever. Quality bit of kit that doesn’t cost too much compared to other known big brands.

  • @donphillips4635
    @donphillips4635 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You sir, are a gentleman, scholar and a master craftsman! 👌

  • @ronswanson2389
    @ronswanson2389 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a super high quality, informative, and well structured video. Nice work!

  • @rimfirejunkie7427
    @rimfirejunkie7427 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another JetBoil lover here. Paired with a Maxpedition 12x5 pouch I can carry the Flash, spare canister of fuel, some spices utensils etc and keep it all protected.

  • @mickwoodney7533
    @mickwoodney7533 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video as always mate, would like to make the observation that I've used the same Jetboil (think it's the Flash) for 17 years, no way anyone's convincing me that it's not a good bit of kit. From the original price I think its cost has been AU$8/year, which is pretty good, and the quality is obvious as it's lasted this long and I flog the thing (even the piezo igniter still works). I love the fact that the pot locks to the burner, I'm pretty uncoordinated so that's a real concern for me, never burned myself yet...
    As for chairs, have had Helinox, it was heinously uncomfortable and bullshit expensive, picked up a Nemo Moon thingy (not the new one), bit heavier but so comfy, can 100% recommend (6' 90kg)
    Do like a Lanshan tent for a budget job, 1P and 2P are both excellent tents for the money, not sure how you'd go in really cold weather though, haven't used the 4 season versions.
    Cheers, hope that .02c worth is useful to someone

  • @commentsonthetube14
    @commentsonthetube14 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I've been using a flexlite air for ages and it's been great. I'm 6'4" 200 lb, so I am large for it, but it manages just fine. Mine has a few ember holes int eh cover too, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. REI does sell new cloth bits though. Nemo makes a chair that feels super high end, but it's also heavier than it needs to be.

    • @rgmALC
      @rgmALC 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m 6’ around 215lbs. I really enjoy my Flex Lite as well. I got mine on sale for $50, I’d never spend $100 on a chair.

  • @jjmcwill2007
    @jjmcwill2007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Pocket Rocket Deluxe is good but expensive. And if you're gonna recommend a stove without the piezo-lighter, the Pocket Rocket and Pocket Rocket 2 have substantially different burner heads which I don't think perform nearly as well in breezy conditions. If you're looking to ditch the igniter and save a few bucks, I'd alternatively recommend the Soto Amicus without igniter. It has the same burner head design as the Pocket Rocket deluxe, AND it has four legs instead of three, which gives a little more stability with certain pots. The Soto Amicus with a 750ml titanium pot is my go-to stove for solo trips.

  • @midlifetravelers6151
    @midlifetravelers6151 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember back in the day, when JetBoil was all the rage? The tent: same rain frustration with my BA Tigerwall. I switched to a tipi tent. Took a weight penalty.

  • @thomsontroy
    @thomsontroy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I purchased my Jetboil 13 years ago and is still going great

  • @D9-do1xw
    @D9-do1xw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the Prospector 50L, and I feel as though it's vastly over-criticized. It's a solid bag with great functionality and storage spaces. The Nalgene-sized water bottle holders are fantastic, and I love the fact that I can take the hip pouches off at convenience. I did get mine on clearance for about 100 bucks, so had I paid full price, I might be more liable to complain.
    In regards to the padding issue, I find the more I've worn it, the more the padding breaks in. You can massage the padding with your thumbs around your contact points when you first purchase it, which i've found helps to 'break in' the strap padding.
    The only gripe that I have with the bag, is that I haven't found a great way to utilize the positioning of the mounting loops. This might be my inexperience with attachments on bags, but I feel as though some of the loops for mounting foam pads, tents, etc., to be a little difficult to utilize without creativity.
    Happy hikes!

    • @zackwright6826
      @zackwright6826 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i use the prospector too and i agree that all the negative reviews are so so nitpicky and it seems like people are trying to hate the bag before liking it.

  • @brycewalburn3926
    @brycewalburn3926 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm also gonna defend the flexlite air. I think it's a great chair and just as comfortable as the chair zero. It does feel different, but not worse in my opinion. I got mine for $50 new and would happily buy it again before dropping $150 on the chair zero. Whereas the issue with the MSR tent is clearly a problem, I think the difference between these chairs is much more subjective, but I completely understand your position. I'd urge people to go down to REI and try both before you form an opinion. Also, I believe you were mistaken in saying that the chair zero is lighter.

  • @johnphillips3526
    @johnphillips3526 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Couldn’t disagree more with your opinion on the Flexlite chair. I own 2 of them.

    • @Justin-Walsh
      @Justin-Walsh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here. I used both before buying and chose the REI because it felt more stable. It's been great.

  • @Jedwoods
    @Jedwoods 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you can get a Jetboil on sale then they're great - I bought mine second hand a few years ago, I think I paid £35 for it, and I've been very happy.

  • @RidesInforests
    @RidesInforests 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah I learnt the hard way. Buy a good tent and bring a footprint with you always.
    I’ve actually switched to hammocks since discovering all the DD-Hammock goodies. Next level stuff and well made. Not the cheapest but great value for the £. Wise people used their brains making that stuff.
    Getting off the ground is really smart, esp in temperate climates like mine.
    Learn by doing guys! Got off you tubes hehe

  • @claesweicher223
    @claesweicher223 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The issue I have with the helinox is the poles that make up the back support. I always find them poking way too hard into my back/shoulder area which gets frustrating after sitting in it for a while. I would like a lightweight but durable chair that has a back support where the poles are wider spread out so you only touch fabric when leaning back.

  • @jeremyhays9433
    @jeremyhays9433 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you had issues with big angie pads leaking? I bought one 7 years ago and it did not make it even 1 weekend. I love this channel btw

  • @NKBOutdoors
    @NKBOutdoors 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a JetBoil Flash for all of two backpacking trips and the odd winter truck camp a few times before the igniter gave up the ghost. That still irks me to this day.

  • @davidwilliama.7296
    @davidwilliama.7296 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I got a Jetboil Sumo, which is their largest one (I think). It wasn't cheap, but I'm pretty happy with it, although I definitely wish it were cheaper.

    •  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Subjective from the channel. Minimo has literally been a lifesaver.

    • @scottfollmer
      @scottfollmer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love my minimo

    •  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scottfollmer 🙌

  • @munchh2007
    @munchh2007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are the first ive heard use the fraise "semi freestanding" i like that, its the truth with alot of them, i have a thing for fully free standing tents so when i see someone say their tent is and then has to peg out the vestibule, i tend to stop watching 😂. Well that was worth a subscribe on its own.
    Great video too, thank you, ill be back 😊

    • @67L48
      @67L48 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Semi freestanding" is a pretty standard term. It generally refers to the ultra light tents that require at least one peg to be in the ground for the body (not fly) of the tent to hold its shape. Big Agnes Tiger Wall is another good example of a semi freestanding tent, and it one of the most popular in this category. I've never seen a fly/vestibule system that didn't require a stake to hold its shape. The freestanding vs semi-freestanding designation is specific to the body of the tent. A freestanding tent is completely taut without any ground stakes used ... you can pick it up and move it around. A semi-freestanding tent is not and will have one end of the tent flopping around without a ground stake.

    • @munchh2007
      @munchh2007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@67L48 spot on, i was in retail around the time the first 'dome' tents started turning up, since then the freestanding thing has become confused, i have a few that are true frestanding, i have a flat roof on my house and my way of thinking is if i cant put it up fully on it, i dont want it 😁

  • @jacktorborg9862
    @jacktorborg9862 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can confirm about big agnes too, I have tried dozens of sleeping pads and nothing even comes close to the comfort and warmth. And it's not like it's THAT heavy. It's worth every ounce in my opinion, even if this one broke I'd just buy the same thing again.

  • @ch3mo883
    @ch3mo883 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking forward for the nemo moonlight elite

  • @thomasspotzl4240
    @thomasspotzl4240 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Klymit R-Value is supposed to be in combination with a full spleeping bag that will fill in the gaps in the pad structure. The ASTM rating is just for the pad itself, which will not do the job. I'm not sure it will do the job with a down sleeping bag either but that is the claim.

    • @Ellie-rx3jt
      @Ellie-rx3jt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The thing that I think makes it still a dodgy claim though, is that the non insulated static V has the same chamber design, so the difference between the warmth of the two should still be tiny.

  • @tangenttrails
    @tangenttrails 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love it! You tell em Steven!🙌

  • @justinelliott4084
    @justinelliott4084 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Old friend of mine drunkenly sat down on my Helios zero chair and snapped the legs. I got it at half price from EMS and I’ve never bought another one bc I can’t bring myself to spend $200 on it but it was my favorite piece of camp gear

  • @wandaesch7314
    @wandaesch7314 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am a cold sleeper, 66 yo female, and used the same klymit pad in Iceland on top of windy cold mountain and it kept me warm, so think you are wrong on this. It also doesn’t make crinkly noises.

  • @TripoutUK
    @TripoutUK 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sitting in a taco 🤣great video as always !

  • @rurikau
    @rurikau 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have had a Jetboil TI for over ten years and it hasn’t missed a beat. My only comment is that the Jetboil’s use case is very narrow and if you are outside of it then there are better options. However, within the use case it is hard to beat.

  • @rong1924
    @rong1924 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got the Jetboil Zip. It's good at boiling water but that's it. You can't simmer with it so you can't cook in it.
    I got the REI chair because it was more comfortable sitting forward in as you would to eat, and I couldn't spend $150 for the Chair Zero, but the Zero was more comfortable leaning back. (Both are unusable on a loamy forest floor)

    • @marycarter6186
      @marycarter6186 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Put little Kong tennis balls on the end of each leg, and they provide a stable base. I use my Flex on loamy and/or surfaces with no problems.

  • @dirtsurf1
    @dirtsurf1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video. I buy exped pads, rei and big agnes tents, osprey packs, helinox chair, and stoves...I just go cheap and small no name.