Great review ER. Just picked up my 6 speed on Friday and have really enjoyed it so far. Slipper clutch is light and the transmission is buttery smooth. Find myself riding in Rain mode around town and in User mode on the highway (Power Max, Engine Braking Min, Traction Max). Pleasantly surprised with the power and the milage (66mpg US). Wind screen is useless on the highway, and the suspension is firm but not jarring. Overall a cleaver design with the 23 liter frunk and the fit and finish seems first rate. Your previous ownership and detailed video summary weighted heavily on my decision. Thanks again!
People think im stupid for down grading from a Africa Twin. but I feel so much better on this bike. I just love it. I can make more errors on this without killing myself.
The glitch pulling away is common on the DCT; my dealer has asked Honda to develop a 'fix'. I've had it on the Honda diagnostic machine and remapped but the problem reappeared after 1,000 miles. Now done 3,300 since the beginning of July and love it. Much better DCT than my old (heavy!) Crosstourer DCT. 3 generations on makes all the difference.
I find the fuel economy on mine incredible, it barely sips fuel. On a recent long trip it was showing at one point an average of 91.1pg. Even commuting (lots of stop starts on a bad day)) I'm getting mid 70s. First time out from the dealer I got around 250 miles from a tank.
I ran a 2015 NC750X-DCT. I had a 55.1 mile each-way journey and fuel economy was my god. I mastered getting 99.9mpg (the maximum the digital display can show).
Great bikes that got even better. I have 2019 model and may have considered an upgrade to the 2021 if it had cruise control because thats all it missing. Good balanced review.
Yes but for the price honda should also give better suspension and double front disc. The price is near 9000eur and all the engine and frame development price is more than paid off after 10years on the market.
@@farmoboy83 fair comment, but for me, all that dosent matter because the price would go up by quite a bit. New bike prices are far to high as it is these days.
Another great review. Interesting what you were saying about filtering, we went to Wales two weeks ago and the traffic was awful on the M5 north. I led the four bikes and filtering for miles through the traffic was much easier than my previous 650 Versys, no gears to change and very steady. We did 604 miles in total at an average of dead on 90mpg and we weren’t hanging about, as you know mine is a 2020 bike. This might be contentious but I seem to be getting about another 4 to 5mpg using E5 97 to 99 octane fuel, my mate has put me off the E10 as he knows about this stuff, says it’s worth paying the extra for better fuel, think he might be right. Got Shell VPower in there at the moment, filled up yesterday at the garage before the roads split at Telegraph Hill, £1.53 per litre, oh well. Of course might just be the engine has loosened up a bit after 2,500 miles. I won’t be changing to the new model anytime soon, her indoors would kill me, and I’ve just ordered a 47 litre Givi top box and rack, wonder if she will notice!
Hi Mike, the 2020 is more than good enough anyway I think. I don't think I'd up grade either, although it is a worthy upgrade from my 2017. Glad your enjoying it 👍😎and yes, the fuel economy amazes me. The Pan America I have had for a week now gets half the economy.
The NC700 replaced the Honda Deauville NT650 (223 kg dry) and Deauville NT700 (236 kg dry). I thought it a shame Honda dropped the mid range shaft drive. I never got a NC in spite of being told about it’s “half a Jazz engine” and fuel economy. Now though it looks as if the NC750 has evolved into a swan after all. Windshields are always a problem though, on most bikes. Might as well just have a small sport windshield, or maybe a big windshield that can be taken on and off easily for those longer tours. I liked your honesty about it’s pillion capacity.
Having owned a 2015 NC750-DCT I find myself very drawn to a second spell of ownership of one of these incredible machines. I only wish Honda would fit shaft drive and cruise control, as it would then be the first bike I would consider describing as 'perfect'. Nonetheless they are not far off it.
Yes I'd like cruise control. I'm not so bothered about shaft drive. I have it on my BMW and it adds a lot of weight. But I can see why you would like to have it 👍
Thx for the great review. I’m starting to fall in love with this bike and I’m seriously considering trading itbin for my Vulcan S. I have just testridden it and it really surprised me how quickly it felt comfortable and the power didn’t let me down at all. It feels like a premium bike also. Love it.
Great review, never considered the X as older version too tall, then noticed they seem to have removed the S version from their line-up, but the new lower seat, will have to go and try out the new one, if the DVLA ever get round to returning my licence after renewing it...
Thanks to your channel and reviews, bought a 2021 yesterday with 500 miles on, not a demo just an older guy. Paid £6900 am chuffed to bits. Will probably be my last bike. Thanks for all your hard work. It really helps making choices watching all you vloggers. I especially enjoy your channel. I used to own an r1100r same as ur 850 with bigger pots. I intend to ride mine to portugal and spain this summer and cant wait. Cheers
Hi er, had mine few months now and averaging 82 mpg riding in sport mode dct. Giving it some welly and that fuel economy is astounding compared to other bikes i have owned. Find the screen fine (6’1’’) but seat still uncomfy after 120 miles. Not done a long motorway cruise wonder what mpg would be. Leg and hip comfort great at my height. Test drove a manual and i think I prefer it,but got dct now. It has caught me out a few times by changing gear in bends esp hairpins which i dont like. Learning to maintain a steady throttle in bends but feel unnatural. Also descending hills it runs away. I know u can use the paddles but try not to. I was following an enthusiastic gs 1200 rider in wales the other day and could easily stay with him. It certainly isnt slow,maybe not just fast, but energetic all the same. In fact its deceptively quick but because it doesnt rev high it doesnt scream like others.before I bought this i test drove tracer 7, versys, v strom and i way preferred this. Its very smooth and easy to ride and vibration free compared to the yamahas. Just my opinion but might help others. Also mine has had ecu flash and doesnt chug and pulls away cleanly
The manual has the EB modes. It does more than change the DCT gear change. I (on a 1 hour test ride) found it smoothed out transition from power to brakes. Meant you could be more sloppy with the chain slack and it softened it up by changing the power off and power on "ramps".
I would not consider buying a car that does not have cruise control. Now that motorcycles are built with the electronic controls necessary to implement cruise control at practically no additional cost of manufacture, we should not have to go without on motorcycles that so obviously require it. No sale.
Really interesting review, I was pretty sure this is what I wanted to get and now I'm very sure! Thank you for your hard work and really interesting video! Take care and ride safe 😊🖖🏽
Great review, thanks. I have XADV 750 and I feel not so comfortable raiding unless my feet on the back, probably because the weight is on the upper part . Would I feel different and more confident on the new NC750x dct ? Thank you for your feedback.
I'm hesitating due to comments on fuel mapping and rear suspension. Does the manual transmission version also have fuel issues? I really wish Honda would have released this w/o the fuel mapping issue or held off on the bike's release until it was sorted. As far as the rear suspension goes, I would not have a issue in spending 200 more lbs in order to upgrade things. May have to hold off another year so Honda can tweak things a bit and the aftermarket has a chance to work their magic.
I have this bike and I've found that the mapping is not up to Honda's usual standards. On cold startup, it revs up and down a bit until it warms up. And when taking off from a stop it has a slight hesitation. It even completely stalled on me the other day for the first time! Had to restart it. Luckily no one was behind me. (This is the US version.) My main gripe with it is this: I have discovered that the spring in the throttle is too strong. This is a drive by wire setup on this new model. No physical cables on this one, only wires. The throttle is computer controlled. So they had to put a physical spring in the wrist throttle area. I have compared the amount of force required to turn the throttle to several other bikes and this one is noticeably harder to turn and to hold at a constant speed. The result is a very irritated wrist!! So disappointed with this. My previous bike that I had was a 2020 Triumph Speedmaster, which was also drive by wire, but that bike's throttle felt fine. Before I realized that a big part of the problem was the internal spring, I had taken it to the dealer in the hopes of getting it re-mapped, like I had heard someone else say they did and it sorted out their issues. But nope, the dealer said it had the latest software and there was nothing wrong with the bike! And they charged me $160 to tell me that! As far as the mapping goes, one thing I've found that helps a little is to set the "User" parameters as such: P-level 1, EB-level 2, T-level 1, D-can't remember if it's the lowest setting or the highest, sorry. Any way, this tames the throttle a bit a makes it a little more manageable, not as touchy. But we shouldn't have to do this. At this point I do not recommend this bike because of these issues. If Honda would replace the physical spring in the throttle with a weaker spring and also re-map the super touchy throttle parameters, then I would love this bike, but as it currently is, no.
@@Truthseeker71 fair comments there and thanks for posting . Yes I must admit I am quite surprised about all this and that it could even leave the factory. Something that I found really helped is a DCT reset. Have you tried this? I have a video coming up on how to do this. But if you mail me at exeterrider@hotmail.com I'll explain.
Brilliant review ER. Do you think the improved low speed handling is down to reduced seat height? Praps it gives the perception of greater weight reduction than they've actually achieved? I've definitely decided on getting the adv version from Bridge after seeing this video. Thanks a lot!
Thanks mate, Its just vastly lighter on top compared to the older, models, I think its more than just it being lowered although that does help a lot. It's a different bike compared to the older models.
I love this bike. Problem is at the moment that no dealer in my close proximity (300km) has a bike in the shop. So I haven't been able to even see it in person yet. Very unfortunate, otherwise I might have had put a deposit on it already.
@@SvanbergSimon ahh I see what you mean. Yes, it's a world wide problem. We have the same problem here and sadley it seems its not going to get better anytime soon 😕
Honestly the neste video that I've seen of this bike! Really Nice job, detailed, answer most of the questions I hard since I'm searching for Other motocycle for Next year, year and half for my long commute rides :) I Subbed Hope when I finally have the oportunity to buy it hopefully theres a New model and with improved features again :)
The review I was waiting for. Your review of the older NC convinced me to get one. My main complaints about the 2016 NC are the higher seat height (I’m pretty short) and it’s weight. This seems to address them. I’m not in position right now to trade mine in for a new one cause ai might be tempted. What I really want is an electric bike but at current prices that is too much of a stretchy justify.
Hi Eric, Yes I am with you on the electric thing. I am in the same position. Yes the 2021 is lighter and that really make's such a difference. Getting back on my 2017 I really felt it. Still love my 2017 though.
Great video. Able to relate to all your views having owned a 18 plate dct. Tell honda.... on the back of your informative video...they've got another sale... new shape!
Ha! Good news Charlie. I wosh they did know how many have bought off the back of this video and the others I've made. Thanks for watching and your time : )
Great review and insights! Some have said it's overly rough on bumpier road, front suspension seems to be too stiff to be comfortable on uneven spots. Any experience with that?
@@exeterrider thank you for your reply and I think may go for it. As an old fart though and getting nearer pension age, the comments you made were very interesting to me. For example, a fully loaded 750x with no cruise control but with full luggage can't be far away in price to an NT1100 which comes fully stocked. I see myself in retirement as a saddle tramp for a few months touring Europe. Itchy Boots has shown you can tour the world on a 300 but that's her not me and its an European tour for me. Thanks again!
I've owned 28 motorcycles, and the NC700X is brilliant. I have a few mods (screen, pipe, bark busters, heated grips, upgraded forks and springs). Out of all my bikes the NC is the best bike ive ever owned. Sure its not as fun as my old full race piped SL1000 or Tuono, not as charismatic as my Guzzi Breva, and not good spread power as my carbie sv650, BUT it does everything well and then in commuting and touring it excels!
Awesome review. Would you consider this bike to be suitable for a beginner rider? Looking to start myself and had my eyes on this, mostly for commuting purposes
Good review, ER. This does sound like a really good bike. I wonder if green bike watches this. 77.61 miles per imperial gallon. Riding like I would, so a good guide. Thorough review.
@@exeterrider Extremely economical, and this model looks really good. Not so keen on the swingarm, handlebars and screen, as everyone else comments about.
Hi many thanks for your video really useful for me Currently own a vstrom 1050 which is a great bike , used to own a 2019 nc750x 95% of my mileage is now 1 up commuting ( a lot of motorway ) , so thinking of replacing the vstrom 1050 for a new model nc750x Main issue I had with my 2019 was with the seat , fitted a shad seat that helped but the slope on seat was always uncomfortable , as I do a lot of miles decided to change bike I know you own a nc750x as well so was wondering if the new model seat is now fixed with no slope etc Cheers Steve
Hi Steve, The new seat is night and day compared to the old one. Infact you could possibly ride all day with the new set up. You won't have any issues there with the new seat for sure.
Hi mate, I have a Honda NT 700 VA, looking for some thing lighter, been looking at a 2017 NC750 x dct, would I be better off looking at the 2021 model? Great reviews, subscribed. 😎🏍😀
@@exeterrider ok mate, thanks for the prompt reply, the 2017 model is at the Bridge, I was there New Year’s Eve, they did have their 2021 model for sale a few weeks ago, but I think that’s gone, I will have to look for a dealer with a 2021 model demo. Thanks mate. 😎🏍👍😀
@@exeterrider every time I go to the bridge, I look out for you, the 2017 was out the back with all the other used bikes, next time me I shall look a little closer! I only live half an hour down the A38, so the bridge is one of my favourite cafes to go to. Cheers. 😎🏍👍😀😀
Nice comprehensive review!! Looks like it would be a good bike for a lot of people. Good all arounder!! I do find it strange that Honda chose that color blue. At first glance I think Yamaha.
Thanks for the review, i think to take this bike, as a new born beginner with 50 years, what do you think between NC750x or the cb500x!?? Will drive mostly in town, thnx :)
Hi Alan, I would say the 500 F (not the x) will be your most enjoyable choice. Everything about it is perfect, the CBR500 is aswell, they are the best 500s around in my book 👍
I have been watching your reviews on the nc750x and would be grateful if you could advise. I have bought a 21 plate registered in the July but watching videos I'm convinced ti is an earlier model the dash is tapered on the top ends where the later ones are letterbox shape also it is silver gray and black which I think is an older colour
Yes so you will have a bike which apart from the colour change they were last updated in 2019 with the new imu for example. Very nice bike and run as well as the newer one although slightly heavier. Hope that helps.
@exeter rider thanks for your response but I think you missed my point, I thought I had bought a 2021 but I think it's an earlier model how can I tell please
By the time you've decided what mode you want to be in I'd be a mile down the road on my Interceptor, unnecessary crap.I use my wrist to decide how I want to ride.
Hi, Am quite a new rider living in Wiltshire, (Suzuki GSR 750) was unfortunately knocked off from the rear last year, and have lost some confidence in my riding, i am maybe looking at changing my bike, and was looking at the Honda NC750 DCT, in your personal opinion would you recommend this bike? Thanks Nathan
I know this isn't an apple to apple comparison but I had to ask anyway, what's it like to maintain this NC750x compared to the CB300R that you've own in the past? Interms of fuel economy, maintenance cost for daily use of 60%city, 20%highway and 20% short distance (less than an hour and a half) of touring with pillion?
Hi, both have pretty much the same oil change intervals, and you will get roughly the same mileage. The 300 gets about 83mpg and the nc about 65 to 70 so next to nothing in it there. Both are not very good for pillion carrying mainly due to the seats being not set up for it but will be OK for short rides. So in many respects they tick the same boxes. You do get more for your money with the NC though 💰🍻👍
Hooked- but what about unwanted downshifts on a wet downhill slope, better to be in manual or not? Not having a clutch to get you out of trouble only a brake???? Thanks for showing us.
It's very smooth with dual slipper clutches, so that's never a problem. Not sure what you mean with not having a clutch to get you out of trouble, but the DCT looks after all of that...... Only down side is you can't bump start it but that will be Very rarely needed 👍🍻
@@drdoolittle5724 I see no it just dosent happen on dct mate. If you go from 6th to 1st doing 50mph the clutch will just over run without dangerous engine braking power. Don't give it a second thought, dct looks after all that 👍
You are lucky you got the Metz tyres as OE. I've got Dunlop 609's on mine and they're rubbish. Can't wait to replace them probably with Road 5's. The Honda high screen with a cheap eBay deflector does a fine job. Don't even need earplugs now.
As you dont mention it how did they fix the petrol tank vent that annoyingly on windless or almost still days allows the petrol fumes to rise right into the riders face?
I know this comment was over a year ago, but why would it be odd? Petrol forecourt prices in Britain are in £ per litre and speed limits are in miles per hour.
I ride my 2021 Nc750x fairly hard and only ride in manual mode so I can make use of the best quickshifter money can buy (paddles) I was riding with a friend who rides a 1000cc Africa twin and this is a transcript of the WhatsApp chat Me: “For only 59 hp I think the Nc750x goes well” At Rider: “Absolutely” AT Rider: “I thought about it on the way. For example, if you drive away after a roundabout, I have to give good gas to keep up with you!!”
I posted this earlier, but I'll put it here again. I don't know what model # the front LED turn signal light bulbs are, but on my car I was able to change out my OEM front amber running light/turn signal combination bulbs for something called "switchback" bulbs. When the front lights are on as a continuous running light the LED's are white, but when the turn signal is activated the LED's turn to blinking amber (more of a yellow actually). There's your solution.... if switchback bulbs are available in the LED model required for the NC750X. This is while be investigating when I get my NC750X.
@@exeterrider Good on you Sir. I was watching some American guy who posted a video about this today. I'm not sure why I'm even invested in this as i don't even own a Honda DCT bike but they seem a blast to ride.
The big question from me to you is . Would you buy one. As I all ways watch your video. With that I got a Honda nc750xdct 2020 model. Just before the new one came out.
My 2017 is not as good in many ways but it still is more than good enough not to change and get a new one. Also I have all the aftermarket stuff on mine which I would need to buy again if I bought a 2021. So for me no , and if I got rid of my 2017 I feel I may want a change.
Tried one, good commuter bike in a city but otherwise I found it soulless and it felt cheap, suspension was crap, lid of the frunk felt like an aldi toolbox, not for me don't see the point of it unless as a city commuter with dct.
Worst motorcycle I've ever had so far. Bought a 2021 NC750X DCT in September and it has been at the dealership since October. I got 70 miles on the bike and the EFI Light came on so I took it back to the dealer. Three and a half months later and they still cant even tell me definitively what is wrong with it. They say they are now waiting for a new diagnostic tool from Honda that is on backorder till the middle of February. Other than that the 70 miles I rode it was enjoyable.
That seems a case of some very bad luck. I'm really sorry to hear that I would be gutted too and pretty hacked off.. Let me know when your back on the road again. Sorry to hear that. 1 in a million that is I expect 😔
@@exeterrider I was worried for you at the start of the video when the canoeist nearly ran into you , it wasn't the son of the sailing boat man was it ?
I quite like the styling. I’m not a fan of indicator running lights. I would worry that someone might pull out, mistakenly thinking I’m indicating to pull into a junction. Probably just me. Big like though. Another very thorough review 👍🏼
Yes, for me I am on the fence with it. They dont half give you alot more visibility even in daylight. On the roadsafe course i went on they say a single headlight dosen't register in the brain and that you should have 3 lights on the front...makes sense but yes I see where you coming from.
@@exeterrider At least you see where I’m coming from, unlike some motorists at junctions 🤣 Maybe extra white lights instead of orange. I have a bit of a hang up on it because recently a truck pulled out in front of me (I was also driving a truck), and he phoned my depot and told them I was indicating to turn into the junction he came out of. I 100% wasn’t indicating, and can only assume he mistook the repeater (which is on constantly, and flashes when indicating) as an indicator. Either that or he knew he f’d up and thought he’d get a call in before I did 🤣🤷🏻♂️
I don't know what model # the front LED turn signal light bulbs are, but on my car I was able to change out my OEM front amber running light/turn signal combination bulbs for something called "switchback" bulbs. When the front lights are on as a continuous running light the LED's are white, but when the turn signal is activated the LED's turn to blinking amber (more of a yellow actually). There's your solution.... if switchback bulbs are available in the LED model required for the NC750X.
@@exeterrider Luxury of living where you do - my rides can go from sea level to 1500 ft in a couple of miles and up there your into 4 degrees before you know it! Stay in Exeter if you can!!!
it must be hard doing a review stating = how much better the new bike is and saying how good the old bike is , they are the same but different,,, i would not say no to either ;;;
Great review ER. Just picked up my 6 speed on Friday and have really enjoyed it so far. Slipper clutch is light and the transmission is buttery smooth. Find myself riding in Rain mode around town and in User mode on the highway (Power Max, Engine Braking Min, Traction Max). Pleasantly surprised with the power and the milage (66mpg US). Wind screen is useless on the highway, and the suspension is firm but not jarring. Overall a cleaver design with the 23 liter frunk and the fit and finish seems first rate. Your previous ownership and detailed video summary weighted heavily on my decision. Thanks again!
In short - you just made my day . Thanks and happy riding to you 😀
People think im stupid for down grading from a Africa Twin. but I feel so much better on this bike. I just love it. I can make more errors on this without killing myself.
Too right, much more nimble around town aswell
The glitch pulling away is common on the DCT; my dealer has asked Honda to develop a 'fix'. I've had it on the Honda diagnostic machine and remapped but the problem reappeared after 1,000 miles. Now done 3,300 since the beginning of July and love it. Much better DCT than my old (heavy!) Crosstourer DCT. 3 generations on makes all the difference.
It sure does Kevin, Glad your enjoying it .
Yes Honda have done a recall and apparently it’s sorted now
I find the fuel economy on mine incredible, it barely sips fuel. On a recent long trip it was showing at one point an average of 91.1pg. Even commuting (lots of stop starts on a bad day)) I'm getting mid 70s. First time out from the dealer I got around 250 miles from a tank.
Thats exactly why I think this bike is the best all-rounder...it will do anything quite well! : ) Thanks for watching Stan
I ran a 2015 NC750X-DCT. I had a 55.1 mile each-way journey and fuel economy was my god. I mastered getting 99.9mpg (the maximum the digital display can show).
Great bikes that got even better. I have 2019 model and may have considered an upgrade to the 2021 if it had cruise control because thats all it missing. Good balanced review.
Thanks, yes many others are saying the same.
Yes but for the price honda should also give better suspension and double front disc. The price is near 9000eur and all the engine and frame development price is more than paid off after 10years on the market.
@@farmoboy83 fair comment, but for me, all that dosent matter because the price would go up by quite a bit. New bike prices are far to high as it is these days.
I would have thought with ride by wire it would have been easy to fit it. I for one would pay the extra for it.
Another great review. Interesting what you were saying about filtering, we went to Wales two weeks ago and the traffic was awful on the M5 north. I led the four bikes and filtering for miles through the traffic was much easier than my previous 650 Versys, no gears to change and very steady.
We did 604 miles in total at an average of dead on 90mpg and we weren’t hanging about, as you know mine is a 2020 bike. This might be contentious but I seem to be getting about another 4 to 5mpg using E5 97 to 99 octane fuel, my mate has put me off the E10 as he knows about this stuff, says it’s worth paying the extra for better fuel, think he might be right. Got Shell VPower in there at the moment, filled up yesterday at the garage before the roads split at Telegraph Hill, £1.53 per litre, oh well. Of course might just be the engine has loosened up a bit after 2,500 miles.
I won’t be changing to the new model anytime soon, her indoors would kill me, and I’ve just ordered a 47 litre Givi top box and rack, wonder if she will notice!
Hi Mike, the 2020 is more than good enough anyway I think. I don't think I'd up grade either, although it is a worthy upgrade from my 2017. Glad your enjoying it 👍😎and yes, the fuel economy amazes me. The Pan America I have had for a week now gets half the economy.
The NC700 replaced the Honda Deauville NT650 (223 kg dry) and Deauville NT700 (236 kg dry). I thought it a shame Honda dropped the mid range shaft drive. I never got a NC in spite of being told about it’s “half a Jazz engine” and fuel economy. Now though it looks as if the NC750 has evolved into a swan after all. Windshields are always a problem though, on most bikes. Might as well just have a small sport windshield, or maybe a big windshield that can be taken on and off easily for those longer tours. I liked your honesty about it’s pillion capacity.
Thanks for watching, and commenting. Nice feedback thanks 👍🙂
Having owned a 2015 NC750-DCT I find myself very drawn to a second spell of ownership of one of these incredible machines.
I only wish Honda would fit shaft drive and cruise control, as it would then be the first bike I would consider describing as 'perfect'. Nonetheless they are not far off it.
Yes I'd like cruise control. I'm not so bothered about shaft drive. I have it on my BMW and it adds a lot of weight. But I can see why you would like to have it 👍
@@exeterrider I was doing 110 miles a day, so chain adjustment became a nuisance...especially for someone who has no inclination towards mechanics...
Even belt drive might be nice to reduce maintenance... shouldn't be too bad on this setup, I'd think.
Thx for the great review. I’m starting to fall in love with this bike and I’m seriously considering trading itbin for my Vulcan S. I have just testridden it and it really surprised me how quickly it felt comfortable and the power didn’t let me down at all. It feels like a premium bike also. Love it.
I'm a fan of the NC...I can't see me getting rid of my 2017
Great review, never considered the X as older version too tall, then noticed they seem to have removed the S version from their line-up, but the new lower seat, will have to go and try out the new one, if the DVLA ever get round to returning my licence after renewing it...
Thanks to your channel and reviews, bought a 2021 yesterday with 500 miles on, not a demo just an older guy. Paid £6900 am chuffed to bits. Will probably be my last bike. Thanks for all your hard work. It really helps making choices watching all you vloggers. I especially enjoy your channel. I used to own an r1100r same as ur 850 with bigger pots. I intend to ride mine to portugal and spain this summer and cant wait. Cheers
That's a good deal you got there will done. I appreciate your time watching my videos Thankyou 🙏🍻
Hi er, had mine few months now and averaging 82 mpg riding in sport mode dct. Giving it some welly and that fuel economy is astounding compared to other bikes i have owned. Find the screen fine (6’1’’) but seat still uncomfy after 120 miles. Not done a long motorway cruise wonder what mpg would be. Leg and hip comfort great at my height. Test drove a manual and i think I prefer it,but got dct now. It has caught me out a few times by changing gear in bends esp hairpins which i dont like. Learning to maintain a steady throttle in bends but feel unnatural. Also descending hills it runs away. I know u can use the paddles but try not to. I was following an enthusiastic gs 1200 rider in wales the other day and could easily stay with him. It certainly isnt slow,maybe not just fast, but energetic all the same. In fact its deceptively quick but because it doesnt rev high it doesnt scream like others.before I bought this i test drove tracer 7, versys, v strom and i way preferred this. Its very smooth and easy to ride and vibration free compared to the yamahas. Just my opinion but might help others.
Also mine has had ecu flash and doesnt chug and pulls away cleanly
@@volt8684 thanks for your thoughts on it, appreciate it 👍
I have a 2015 would change for new model if it had cruise control.
Many people are saying that tbh.
The manual has the EB modes. It does more than change the DCT gear change. I (on a 1 hour test ride) found it smoothed out transition from power to brakes. Meant you could be more sloppy with the chain slack and it softened it up by changing the power off and power on "ramps".
One of the absolute best reviews on YT! CHEERS! ....and Thank you !
Wow that's kind of you to say. Thanks David😊👍
Brilliant thorough review. I’ve just
Ordered a manual version new one in grey and looking forward to riding it.
your going to have some great times on it : )
I would not consider buying a car that does not have cruise control. Now that motorcycles are built with the electronic controls necessary to implement cruise control at practically no additional cost of manufacture, we should not have to go without on motorcycles that so obviously require it. No sale.
Fair comment, many people insist on it in this day and age.
Really interesting review, I was pretty sure this is what I wanted to get and now I'm very sure! Thank you for your hard work and really interesting video! Take care and ride safe 😊🖖🏽
You would enjoy this bike, and the lack of vibes. 😊👍
@@exeterriderI'm considering one now! Thanks for publishing!!
@@quinnpeaksbiker pleasure mate, go test one and see what you think 👍🍻
I am picking my 2021 bike (in blue) up on Wednesday.. nice 220 mile ride home! I hope the weather's nice
Good luck! Your going to love it....new bike day!? I'm jealous and very pleased for you!!
Finally - 2022 model nearly out now !!
Good video and thanks :)
Great review, thanks.
I have XADV 750 and I feel not so comfortable raiding unless my feet on the back, probably because the weight is on the upper part .
Would I feel different and more confident on the new NC750x dct ?
Thank you for your feedback.
Hi, yes I know what you mean there and it's often the problem with scooters.
Yes you will feel better on the NC for sure 👍
I'm hesitating due to comments on fuel mapping and rear suspension. Does the manual transmission version also have fuel issues? I really wish Honda would have released this w/o the fuel mapping issue or held off on the bike's release until it was sorted. As far as the rear suspension goes, I would not have a issue in spending 200 more lbs in order to upgrade things. May have to hold off another year so Honda can tweak things a bit and the aftermarket has a chance to work their magic.
Yes, it is still a very good bike at the end of the day. No bike is perfect. Go and try one. I haven't tried the manual.
I have this bike and I've found that the mapping is not up to Honda's usual standards. On cold startup, it revs up and down a bit until it warms up. And when taking off from a stop it has a slight hesitation. It even completely stalled on me the other day for the first time! Had to restart it. Luckily no one was behind me. (This is the US version.)
My main gripe with it is this: I have discovered that the spring in the throttle is too strong. This is a drive by wire setup on this new model. No physical cables on this one, only wires. The throttle is computer controlled. So they had to put a physical spring in the wrist throttle area. I have compared the amount of force required to turn the throttle to several other bikes and this one is noticeably harder to turn and to hold at a constant speed. The result is a very irritated wrist!! So disappointed with this.
My previous bike that I had was a 2020 Triumph Speedmaster, which was also drive by wire, but that bike's throttle felt fine.
Before I realized that a big part of the problem was the internal spring, I had taken it to the dealer in the hopes of getting it re-mapped, like I had heard someone else say they did and it sorted out their issues. But nope, the dealer said it had the latest software and there was nothing wrong with the bike! And they charged me $160 to tell me that!
As far as the mapping goes, one thing I've found that helps a little is to set the "User" parameters as such: P-level 1, EB-level 2, T-level 1, D-can't remember if it's the lowest setting or the highest, sorry. Any way, this tames the throttle a bit a makes it a little more manageable, not as touchy. But we shouldn't have to do this.
At this point I do not recommend this bike because of these issues. If Honda would replace the physical spring in the throttle with a weaker spring and also re-map the super touchy throttle parameters, then I would love this bike, but as it currently is, no.
@@Truthseeker71 fair comments there and thanks for posting . Yes I must admit I am quite surprised about all this and that it could even leave the factory.
Something that I found really helped is a DCT reset. Have you tried this? I have a video coming up on how to do this. But if you mail me at exeterrider@hotmail.com I'll explain.
Brilliant review ER. Do you think the improved low speed handling is down to reduced seat height? Praps it gives the perception of greater weight reduction than they've actually achieved? I've definitely decided on getting the adv version from Bridge after seeing this video. Thanks a lot!
Thanks mate, Its just vastly lighter on top compared to the older, models, I think its more than just it being lowered although that does help a lot. It's a different bike compared to the older models.
If you had to choose only one bike to own would you pick the nc750x or VOGE 500ds. Enjoyed your reviews of both bikes, thanks - keep up the good work.
Thanks mate. I'm still a huge Nc750 fan👍
I love this bike. Problem is at the moment that no dealer in my close proximity (300km) has a bike in the shop. So I haven't been able to even see it in person yet. Very unfortunate, otherwise I might have had put a deposit on it already.
I thought Honda were everywhere. Yes that's a shame 🤔🍻
@@exeterrider there are alot of dealers but none of them has the new model in stock.
@@SvanbergSimon ahh I see what you mean. Yes, it's a world wide problem. We have the same problem here and sadley it seems its not going to get better anytime soon 😕
Honestly the neste video that I've seen of this bike! Really Nice job, detailed, answer most of the questions I hard since I'm searching for Other motocycle for Next year, year and half for my long commute rides :)
I Subbed Hope when I finally have the oportunity to buy it hopefully theres a New model and with improved features again :)
Thanks Tiago, and for your time watching 😎
@@exeterrider thank you us for the time you took to create it and give us all the informations! :)
As always, great review bud. Ride safe.
Thanks mate, much appreciate your time watching 🙏📺
The review I was waiting for. Your review of the older NC convinced me to get one. My main complaints about the 2016 NC are the higher seat height (I’m pretty short) and it’s weight. This seems to address them. I’m not in position right now to trade mine in for a new one cause ai might be tempted. What I really want is an electric bike but at current prices that is too much of a stretchy justify.
Hi Eric, Yes I am with you on the electric thing. I am in the same position. Yes the 2021 is lighter and that really make's such a difference. Getting back on my 2017 I really felt it. Still love my 2017 though.
Lovely review thank you. I have a ST1300 and am considering the NC but just can’t make my mind up.
You will in time, so much choice these days isn't there!
Good review, Mr Exeter rider, have you got any updates on your BMW R850R. A pleasure to watch all of your tests and reviews.
Thanks Paul, I love my beemer but not been out on it recently. Its my favourite bike to ride 👍👍next year I'll do a review on it 👍
Looking at this with the travel pack, it's nearly at NT price! But the NT has more power and cruise. Only pro for NC is fuel consumption.
Yes too right. I think I would sirens that little more and go NT👍🍻🏍️
Im considerong this bike, really like it, youve defintely sold it even more to me now 😄👍
Good choice! It really is a good all rounder!
Did you buy one?
Great video. Able to relate to all your views having owned a 18 plate dct. Tell honda.... on the back of your informative video...they've got another sale... new shape!
Ha! Good news Charlie. I wosh they did know how many have bought off the back of this video and the others I've made. Thanks for watching and your time : )
The fueling glitch pulling away from a light is subject to a software update recall now.
Yes I know, I'm glad I mentioned it because no one else did on the reviews👍
Great review and insights!
Some have said it's overly rough on bumpier road, front suspension seems to be too stiff to be comfortable on uneven spots. Any experience with that?
Not really it feels much the fame as the old model but yes the front travel is alot shorter which isn't ideal!
@@exeterrider thank you so very much!
Honda Forza 300cc rider and I want one of these for my 60th.
Go for it, Its heavy compared to the 300 so its a step up , but go for it. Thats what life is all about!
@@exeterrider thank you for your reply and I think may go for it. As an old fart though and getting nearer pension age, the comments you made were very interesting to me. For example, a fully loaded 750x with no cruise control but with full luggage can't be far away in price to an NT1100 which comes fully stocked. I see myself in retirement as a saddle tramp for a few months touring Europe. Itchy Boots has shown you can tour the world on a 300 but that's her not me and its an European tour for me. Thanks again!
Good review. Can you change the riding mode on the fly?
Yes you can : )
Thanks for the review! Top job•• Just waiting for dealer to get a DCT so I can ride again !!
That's great Doug, thanks for your kind comment 👍
I've owned 28 motorcycles, and the NC700X is brilliant. I have a few mods (screen, pipe, bark busters, heated grips, upgraded forks and springs). Out of all my bikes the NC is the best bike ive ever owned. Sure its not as fun as my old full race piped SL1000 or Tuono, not as charismatic as my Guzzi Breva, and not good spread power as my carbie sv650, BUT it does everything well and then in commuting and touring it excels!
Yeap, I'm still enjoying mine for sure!
Awesome review. Would you consider this bike to be suitable for a beginner rider? Looking to start myself and had my eyes on this, mostly for commuting purposes
Yes, absolutely. It is a very good starter bike , including being very light on top which is really important.
Good review, ER. This does sound like a really good bike. I wonder if green bike watches this. 77.61 miles per imperial gallon. Riding like I would, so a good guide.
Thorough review.
Good for a 750 isn't it. I want hanging around either on that bike. 👍🏍️
@@exeterrider Extremely economical, and this model looks really good. Not so keen on the swingarm, handlebars and screen, as everyone else comments about.
Hi many thanks for your video really useful for me Currently own a vstrom 1050 which is a great bike , used to own a 2019 nc750x
95% of my mileage is now 1 up commuting ( a lot of motorway ) , so thinking of replacing the vstrom 1050 for a new model nc750x
Main issue I had with my 2019 was with the seat , fitted a shad seat that helped but the slope on seat was always uncomfortable , as I do a lot of miles decided to change bike
I know you own a nc750x as well so was wondering if the new model seat is now fixed with no slope etc
Cheers Steve
Hi Steve,
The new seat is night and day compared to the old one. Infact you could possibly ride all day with the new set up.
You won't have any issues there with the new seat for sure.
@@exeterrider many thanks will get a test ride sorted
Oh what a big muff you have.
Great video 👍
Note to self. Small river, greenery, sunshine coming from a 40 degree angle, wind blowing from the North.
Its a more reliable muff, especially when my TH-camr mate is out the way : )
Really nice review and a great bike.
Thankyou, where are you based too? 🙏👍
20:30 If this is 9/10 for filtering, what’s 10/10?! I’ll hopefully be buying mine this week!
Not really sure myself to be honest 😂Brill go for it👍
Probably something like the smaller scooters (150-300cc)
Very informative review, ER. Nicely thought out bike but I think, at 6' 4", I would be a tad cramped on it.
Fair comment mate, Pegs are low but granted , My beemer has high pegs and its a pain even for a shorty like me!
Hi mate, I have a Honda NT 700 VA, looking for some thing lighter, been looking at a 2017 NC750 x dct, would I be better off looking at the 2021 model? Great reviews, subscribed. 😎🏍😀
Yes, absolutely. It is vastly lighter and now comes with a better seat. I'd advise a test ride Robert. Thanks for subbing : )
@@exeterrider ok mate, thanks for the prompt reply, the 2017 model is at the Bridge, I was there New Year’s Eve, they did have their 2021 model for sale a few weeks ago, but I think that’s gone, I will have to look for a dealer with a 2021 model demo. Thanks mate. 😎🏍👍😀
Anytime mate, I think bridge still has the demo NC out the back. Unless they sold it. Say hello if you see me👋
@@exeterrider every time I go to the bridge, I look out for you, the 2017 was out the back with all the other used bikes, next time me I shall look a little closer! I only live half an hour down the A38, so the bridge is one of my favourite cafes to go to. Cheers. 😎🏍👍😀😀
Nice comprehensive review!! Looks like it would be a good bike for a lot of people. Good all arounder!! I do find it strange that Honda chose that color blue. At first glance I think Yamaha.
Ha good point, I never looked at it like that before.
Thanks for the review, i think to take this bike, as a new born beginner with 50 years, what do you think between NC750x or the cb500x!?? Will drive mostly in town, thnx :)
Hi Alan, I would say the 500 F (not the x) will be your most enjoyable choice. Everything about it is perfect, the CBR500 is aswell, they are the best 500s around in my book 👍
I have been watching your reviews on the nc750x and would be grateful if you could advise. I have bought a 21 plate registered in the July but watching videos I'm convinced ti is an earlier model the dash is tapered on the top ends where the later ones are letterbox shape also it is silver gray and black which I think is an older colour
Yes so you will have a bike which apart from the colour change they were last updated in 2019 with the new imu for example. Very nice bike and run as well as the newer one although slightly heavier. Hope that helps.
@exeter rider thanks for your response but I think you missed my point, I thought I had bought a 2021 but I think it's an earlier model how can I tell please
@@gordonjenkins8171 ahh I see. With the colour you mention them it seems to be a 2021. Hard to tell with out seeing it.
By the time you've decided what mode you want to be in I'd be a mile down the road on my Interceptor, unnecessary crap.I use my wrist to decide how I want to ride.
Ha, fair enough. I liked simple riding too, it does help on bigger bikes though, it's needed to control the power. Intercepters are awesome.
Hi, Am quite a new rider living in Wiltshire, (Suzuki GSR 750) was unfortunately knocked off from the rear last year, and have lost some confidence in my riding, i am maybe looking at changing my bike, and was looking at the Honda NC750 DCT, in your personal opinion would you recommend this bike? Thanks Nathan
For sure I would recormend it. My 2017 is a keeper and you can't go wrong with a Honda in my book : )
Very good review, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Nice thorough review, sir.
Thank you for watching sir🙏
I know this isn't an apple to apple comparison but I had to ask anyway, what's it like to maintain this NC750x compared to the CB300R that you've own in the past? Interms of fuel economy, maintenance cost for daily use of 60%city, 20%highway and 20% short distance (less than an hour and a half) of touring with pillion?
Hi, both have pretty much the same oil change intervals, and you will get roughly the same mileage. The 300 gets about 83mpg and the nc about 65 to 70 so next to nothing in it there. Both are not very good for pillion carrying mainly due to the seats being not set up for it but will be OK for short rides. So in many respects they tick the same boxes. You do get more for your money with the NC though 💰🍻👍
Hi ER have you fitted the black widow exhaust full system to your 2021 nc 750
This was only a long term loan bike from Honda mate, it wasn't my own.
Hooked- but what about unwanted downshifts on a wet downhill slope, better to be in manual or not? Not having a clutch to get you out of trouble only a brake???? Thanks for showing us.
It's very smooth with dual slipper clutches, so that's never a problem. Not sure what you mean with not having a clutch to get you out of trouble, but the DCT looks after all of that...... Only down side is you can't bump start it but that will be Very rarely needed 👍🍻
@@exeterrider just that should you cock-up a downshift you can grab the clutch to stop engine braking!
@@drdoolittle5724 I see no it just dosent happen on dct mate. If you go from 6th to 1st doing 50mph the clutch will just over run without dangerous engine braking power. Don't give it a second thought, dct looks after all that 👍
You are lucky you got the Metz tyres as OE. I've got Dunlop 609's on mine and they're rubbish. Can't wait to replace them probably with Road 5's. The Honda high screen with a cheap eBay deflector does a fine job. Don't even need earplugs now.
@@applecorp All depends on the correct helmet fitting. I use an xlite 709. Very quiet
Yes I think my battlewing tyres are Dunlops, I am also looking forward to getting a set of PR5s on mine. The 2021 is nice to have really good tyres.
Have replaced the Dunlop 609's with Metzler Roadtec. Brilliant
As you dont mention it how did they fix the petrol tank vent that annoyingly on windless or almost still days allows the petrol fumes to rise right into the riders face?
I haven't found that situation at all tbh👍
8.2L took you 140 miles! You don’t happen to see anything odd about that statement? 😅. Great review btw. Thanks 😊
I'm being dippy, No I can't see it?lol? and thanks for watching : )
@@exeterrider metric and imperial units together
I know this comment was over a year ago, but why would it be odd? Petrol forecourt prices in Britain are in £ per litre and speed limits are in miles per hour.
I'm still wondering a year later 🤔🤔😂
I ride my 2021 Nc750x fairly hard and only ride in manual mode so I can make use of the best quickshifter money can buy (paddles)
I was riding with a friend who rides a 1000cc Africa twin and this is a transcript of the WhatsApp chat
Me: “For only 59 hp I think the Nc750x goes well”
At Rider: “Absolutely”
AT Rider: “I thought about it on the way. For example, if you drive away after a roundabout, I have to give good gas to keep up with you!!”
, 😁👍🍻
Have you ever had a spin on a f750gs bmw? Just wondering which one you would go for, nc or bmw
I have a BMW 850gs gs up. Surprisingly does alot the nc does. Take a look at that vid 👍
@@exeterrider will do 👍
What would be a good bet in this category with similar characteristics that has cruise control?
Closest I guess is the tiger 800 off the top of my head. Much more a adventure bike of course 👆
Thank toy from KSA.
Thanks for watching
Nice one I am very tempted 100% Honda reliability miles of smiles miles of fuel ability . Life a joy when your rolling on two wheels . Rolley :)
Hi Rolly, yes Hondas are super dependable for sure.
Nice bike not sure I like the indicators as cruising lights , I would rather retro fit some good review cheers : )
Some others are saying the same thing. I am on the fence with it but I think its OK TBH. But I see where your coming from.
It makes the bike much more visible from the front without having to pay for aftermarket lights.
I posted this earlier, but I'll put it here again.
I don't know what model # the front LED turn signal light bulbs are, but on my car I was able to change out my OEM front amber running light/turn signal combination bulbs for something called "switchback" bulbs. When the front lights are on as a continuous running light the LED's are white, but when the turn signal is activated the LED's turn to blinking amber (more of a yellow actually). There's your solution.... if switchback bulbs are available in the LED model required for the NC750X.
This is while be investigating when I get my NC750X.
Pretty much the way I see it Steve.
@@kenbowlus2995 Thanks, had not heard of those.
I believe there was a recall for the ECU to fix the stuttering?
Yes so I hear. I think I was the only reviewer to mention that , so I am patting myself on the back as I write this 😂
@@exeterrider Good on you Sir. I was watching some American guy who posted a video about this today. I'm not sure why I'm even invested in this as i don't even own a Honda DCT bike but they seem a blast to ride.
Yes its certainly different than your conventional geared bike. Quite a nice change really 👍🏍️🍻
The big question from me to you is . Would you buy one. As I all ways watch your video. With that I got a Honda nc750xdct 2020 model. Just before the new one came out.
My 2017 is not as good in many ways but it still is more than good enough not to change and get a new one. Also I have all the aftermarket stuff on mine which I would need to buy again if I bought a 2021. So for me no , and if I got rid of my 2017 I feel I may want a change.
The best thing about the 2021 is how light it is compared to ours.
What is the weight difference in the two bike.
6 kilos less I think.
@@stevebolton8471 whoops, thanks Steve!
Will have my new nc750x this weekend looking forward to it she looks stunning imo
Brilliant bike, so light and nimble. Many happy travels to you 👍🍻
Can I ask have you now purchased the new 21 model ???
No I haven't 👍🍻
Good video thanks
Glad you enjoyed it : )
Do you need a key to drive the Honda motorcycle??
Yes 👍
Tried one, good commuter bike in a city but otherwise I found it soulless and it felt cheap, suspension was crap, lid of the frunk felt like an aldi toolbox, not for me don't see the point of it unless as a city commuter with dct.
That's exactly what it is really mate, and a decent tourer. Not for you, that's fair enough 👍
Worst motorcycle I've ever had so far. Bought a 2021 NC750X DCT in September and it has been at the dealership since October. I got 70 miles on the bike and the EFI Light came on so I took it back to the dealer. Three and a half months later and they still cant even tell me definitively what is wrong with it. They say they are now waiting for a new diagnostic tool from Honda that is on backorder till the middle of February. Other than that the 70 miles I rode it was enjoyable.
That seems a case of some very bad luck. I'm really sorry to hear that
I would be gutted too and pretty hacked off.. Let me know when your back on the road again. Sorry to hear that. 1 in a million that is I expect 😔
A pretty bike.
It is, nice angles
Is this on time or early again ??
On time bud, New slot of Mondays at 4PM 😉
@@exeterrider I was worried for you at the start of the video when the canoeist nearly ran into you , it wasn't the son of the sailing boat man was it ?
@@PhilipKerry blooper vid on way mate. You'll see😏😂
I quite like the styling. I’m not a fan of indicator running lights. I would worry that someone might pull out, mistakenly thinking I’m indicating to pull into a junction. Probably just me. Big like though. Another very thorough review 👍🏼
Yes, for me I am on the fence with it. They dont half give you alot more visibility even in daylight. On the roadsafe course i went on they say a single headlight dosen't register in the brain and that you should have 3 lights on the front...makes sense but yes I see where you coming from.
@@exeterrider At least you see where I’m coming from, unlike some motorists at junctions 🤣 Maybe extra white lights instead of orange. I have a bit of a hang up on it because recently a truck pulled out in front of me (I was also driving a truck), and he phoned my depot and told them I was indicating to turn into the junction he came out of. I 100% wasn’t indicating, and can only assume he mistook the repeater (which is on constantly, and flashes when indicating) as an indicator. Either that or he knew he f’d up and thought he’d get a call in before I did 🤣🤷🏻♂️
same as me ., indicator running lights not needed. gimmick.
I don't know what model # the front LED turn signal light bulbs are, but on my car I was able to change out my OEM front amber running light/turn signal combination bulbs for something called "switchback" bulbs. When the front lights are on as a continuous running light the LED's are white, but when the turn signal is activated the LED's turn to blinking amber (more of a yellow actually). There's your solution.... if switchback bulbs are available in the LED model required for the NC750X.
@@kenbowlus2995 clever stuff 👍🏼
Not even an air temperature!!
To be honest I never take no notice of that even if it had one.
@@exeterrider Luxury of living where you do - my rides can go from sea level to 1500 ft in a couple of miles and up there your into 4 degrees before you know it! Stay in Exeter if you can!!!
it must be hard doing a review stating = how much better the new bike is and saying how good the old bike is , they are the same but different,,, i would not say no to either ;;;
Each to their own mate, fair enough. Yes both bikes offer different things and getting anything over on camera is a skill, I'm still learning
This bike would have really suited my needs it's a shame they canned them down under 😡
Really ! That makes no sense to me!?
@@exeterrider me neither doesn't matter I bought a bike I've always wanted 👍
Нихуя не понял, но очень интересно.
Спасибо, мне также пришлось перевести это в Google, но большое спасибо за просмотр, и я надеюсь, что в вашей стране все хорошо. Безопасная езда к вам
Super great review thanks!
Thanks for watching 🙏👍🍻