Automatic-transmission on a motorcycle? 2021 Honda NC750X DCT | Daily Rider
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On paper, Honda’s NC750X DCT looks like a Daily Rider home run. Zack hits the road to see how a motorcycle with an automatic transmission and scooter-like storage holds up on his typical testing route.
SPECS:
MSRP: $8,499
Engine: 745 cc parallel twin
Measured weight: 493 lb. / 223.6 kg
Fuel tank: 3.7 gal. / 14.1 liters
Seat height: 31.6 in. / 803 mm
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The 2 wheeled Honda Accord. And yeah, it's supposed to be a compliment.
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Unfortunately there's a lot of idiots, that snub and mock this model of bike. there's a lot of people that like the dct trans. I myself have both legs with torn acl's and injuries from playing soccer and cycling wildly, ( mtb).
So there's definitely a use for this type of machine. Is practical, don't look bad, at all, economical, and seems to be fun, even that is proven to not be fast. I agree with your comment 👍
Like a 2 wheeled honda accord!!
I almost Forgot, best part is that it has The FRUNK!!
I have a '13 NC700X with DCT. I think your comment is spot on! And not an insult at all! (though I dunno if it's exactly a compliment. haha)
@@busterinny4808 The Accord is one hell of a car for the everyday normal person, the coupe with the manual is even unironically dope.
@@cocoloco65482 I fully agree. I had an accident in April that tore both the ACL and MCL of my left leg so this bike is a literal godsend for me. I also drive a Honda Civic so I may as well have a 2 wheeled version of it! LOL
Interesting after so many years that's people are still amazed about this motorcycle because I'm not. I love my nc750x DCT which by the way has over 239,000 km over 5 years riding all over Southeast Asia based in Thailand. I use that off road on road and try to stay off highways as much as possible as I prefer more scenic routes. Mine is a 2015 and is the second generation of DCT which in my estimation is a brilliant technology and I've had no issues with my transmission. It's taking me to Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Vietnam, Malaysia, all over Thailand and some special trips to China including a 30-day adventure to Everest camp in Tibet and back to Bangkok. I've gone through 16 sets of tires, numerous chain and sprockets, and standard maintenance. I really enjoy this motorcycle and it ticks all my boxes
Wow, that is an impressive amount of riding in such a short time! That's about 148k miles for my other USA people out there.
You are the man Mike! I've followed some of your adventures, and you're the perfect ambassador for the bike. Honda should gift you a new one as a thanks for all the ones you've sold indirectly. Ride On Brother!
@@norsefalconer thank you for your kind words , Ride Safe
Jesus. That's an average of 130 km pr day, every day for those 5 years. You get some riding done. XD
Wow 🥺😳🥺...
I still think that storage compartment is one of the best pieces of motorcycle design I’ve seen
The BMW F650SC Scarver had it way earlier altho i don't know if you could fit a helmet in that.
You can fit 2x full size standard helmets under the seat of a Suzuki AN400 K1, or a 24 can crate of beer ;)
Can you guess I'm lookng at the NC750x to change to... hehe
This bike gets no respect. Such an awesome design.
Yeah it's pretty brilliant. If people need something to commute with its brilliant. The high torque motor is a smart match. Having the weight down so low would hide the weight when moving. Obviously you'll feel it at a stop but even then it's probably easier to keep balanced than a similar sized and weighted bike with a standard upright motors.
This bike is brilliant.
Agreed. These are fantastic bikes and the rest of the world understands them better than the US market. But this generation is looking to change that. They have been selling well and the DCT is hard to find especially in SoCal.
Just like the Pacific Coast.
@@johnthomas2485 Yes, I own one.
I think you'd meet the nicest people on this bike
[Waves] Why thank you :)
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In similar fashion to a manual transmission in a car, the parking brake on my NC750 doubles as a sleeper security system as many have no clue how to move the bike once I've engaged it. Take a permanent marker and black out the red ring on the parking brake button and you're golden.
Sneaky, sneaky. I approve!
I dont see why anyone would want to take it anyway, and that's a good thing!
Just slap a DCT sticker on it will ensure it never gets stolen
@@funkthat And a milk crate on the back
@@funkthat whats wrong w/ the DCT? seems like a fun nimble bike
Zack's daily rider reviews are so good I'll even watch the ones about bikes I have absolutely zero interest in.
Same haha
Ha - at least you know you are not alone
Can't agree with this enough
Like this.
Absolutely! Zack’s enthusiasm for motorcycles is contagious!
I had one of these (1st gen, 700cc's) with a manual transmission. Extremely low fuel consumption, low center of gravity and really practical. Perfect for commuting in a country with high fuel prices and bad road conditions. Cheers from Portugal.
High fuel prices and bad road conditions?
You just described conditions here in Montreal, Canada to a T.
Going to look into getting one!
Verdade. Em Portugal qualquer dia só se consegue andar com motas de aventura, tal o mau estado do piso. Abc
@@mtlnascarfan California, as well.
@@mtlnascarfan would you pay ~2,5 CAD/l for gas, if so WTF= welcome to finland
@@Kauppamopo Holy crap. You have my condolences 😳
One thing I've never heard anyone mention in this review is the amazing steering geometry. You can scrape the pegs easily. It recovers awesome in a slide. You can stand on the pegs to ease an aching butt. It's cheap to run. Cheap to maintain. It's handling is amazing, even with the mediocre suspension. I'm 6'3 and it hauls me around all day at 80 miles per hour with no drama.
Great to hear- I'm considering buying one!
Thanks I'm 6'4" tall and was wondering how it would be riding.
6.2 and worried about eating my knees and losing sensation in my legs.
For some reason, I find it difficult to imagine riding an automatic bike. What is that like? Is it still fun to ride without the constant manual manipulation?
@@sgtfixer There's a manual version.
I would definitely do manual mode for any offroad use to be able to select correct gears for climbs or slow maneuvers
Whoever says this bike is dorky or for women, well those kind people will find fault with anything that makes them feel superior to others, if it wasn't the bike, itd be your outfit or your car or something,
This bike is an absolute universal utilitarian marvel especially when you consider price an practicality, its a bike anyone in the family can use and even experienced riders can have lot of easy-going fun!! And it look freaking great!!
Honda unapologetically thinks outside the box, and that’s what I love about the brand. If I had a stable of bikes, I bet, more often than not, the NC750X would get the nod; especially in terms of ‘Daily Commuting. The synergy of practicality and low end torque is oddly satisfying.
Yes they do ... PC800
People like you are the reason why Honda is boring. Their buyers primarily consist of goody two shoes who wear a white shirt, jeans and New Balance comfort shoes. Look, I understand you want something practical and comfortable but don’t try to be so utilitarian with everything. Motorcycles are meant to arouse, not be toneless tools.
@@lastingeffort6775 it’s a vehicle that ANYONE can use , honda doesn’t make these just for you, they want everyone to buy their bikes and cars lmfao
@@lastingeffort6775 “meant to arouse” cringe af gtfo😂😂
@@lastingeffort6775 meant to arouse? I think you’ve had too many blue pills.
Perfect California commuter bike, small enough to lane split easily, enough power to handle the freeway without issue, the extra storage, and super fuel efficient.
This is what I suspected. Thanks for confirming
Every time I see a motorcyclist with a quick up/down shifter, they say it's great that you don't have to use the clutch.. not a far cry from an automatic IMO.
Eh we all settle for a level convenience or everyone would still be jogging. I guess the difference is you still have the option to choose your gear with quickshifts and not be forced into wtv the computer wants.
I feel like the purpose of a QS is very different. Definitely track oriented. I personally turn it off on the road as I prefer to blip the throttle myself when downshifting but on track when braking and downshifting at the same time the bike is so much more stable with the quickshifter specially when downshifting 3 gears down within few seconds.
Yeah, I'm definitely not saying that they are the same.. just not enough of a difference for people to be going up in arms about. Don't like it, don't buy it and whatnot
Not that you have to use the clutch in the first place on most bikes.
Not having to use clutch =/= not having to shift
The best explanation of DCT I've heard so far.
I don't want one, but as a "daily rider" it's brilliant.
I want one. And with gas creeping over 5 dollars. I really want one.
One of the better explanations I've heard. Basically, it's a clutchless 6-speed gearbox. It's not a CVT, nor is it a traditional automatic transmission, which would have a torque converter. In traditional autos/CVTs, when you let off the throttle, it coasts. There is no coasting in a DCT - you actually feel the engine braking. On my 2020 Africa Twin DCT, the level of engine braking is adjustable, with 4 levels to choose from. As a lower cost entry, I also noticed the NC does not have "Sport Modes," as the Africa Twin does. The "D" button on the ATwin, engages SI, SII, and SII, three levels of sport mode you can cycle through buy long-pressing the "D" button for a second or so, which is labelled "D/S" on the ATwin. I also noticed the NC has no lever on the left handlebar, where the ATwin has a lever there, with an extra long reach, which is the parking brake. Last thing, I checked the accessories and it's not offered on the NC, but there is an optional dealer/user installed gear shifting lever for the ATwin DCT ,so you can manually row the gears, instead of the bike doing it. Both bikes do offer a manual mode, just left of the "D" button, but you can also always interrupt and switch gears even in D or S1 - S3 mode, by using the foot shift lever if installed, or the trigger pair on the left handle bar. After 6 months on the ATwin, I don't know if I want to go back - the Honda DCT, at least on an Africa Twin, offers the best of both worlds!!
After having to sit in bumper-to-bumper crawling commuter traffic on a FZ6 for an hour on more than one occasion, I'm sold on going automatic.
How does this motorcycle anger ANY person? It does EXACTLY what it sets out to do. It does not tell a single lie in its marketing material or styling, it does not trick, endanger or fool anyone.
if bikes like this will bring new users to the two-wheel life I am down with it. Less traffic, less pollution, more awareness on bikers, more parking... it's a win-win. :)
Also, I think the maxi-scooters market is converging with the motorcycle market, which is not bad. I would probably consider the Honda X-ADV 750 if it was available on the US market.
Instead of government incentives for electric cars we need incentives on this, scooters, and ebikes. our city sprawl in the U.S. would be less awful. But we’re not that smart
@@Irwtgtlajgafe Very true. Electric is the future but electric cars are no better than any other cars. Motorcycles themselves pollute more than cars but this is counteracted by less congestion, less wear on the roads and if more people rode bikes the road network could downsize. Which saves money and creating the roads pollutes a lot.
Even if we don't care about pollution more people on bikes is better for their mental health. Cars fuck people up in more ways than one. They run them over, pollute the air and ruin their minds.
People don't need big heavy bikes these days
I 3D printed a 20 liter (Don't know, what that is in eagle bladders) gas tank, that fits into trunk. I fall asleep before I ever run out of fuel. XD
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What material did you use? ABS?
@@johnsteinberg8540 Carbon fibre reinforced nylon, tempered after the print and tested for leaks.
My first bike was the NC700X DCT. As a new rider I loved not having to worry about shifting as it kept my focus on other areas of learning to ride. My friend, a rider of 30 years, also purchased the DCT Rebel 1100 and absolutely loves it. Also knowing someone with Parkinson’s and carpal tunnel who can’t pull the clutch anymore, the automatic function allows him to keep riding.
That is awesome. Glad to hear your friend is still riding.
fantastic!
Awesome that your friend has the option!
Yes, the NC700/750 seems like a perfect gateway drug to lure new riders into our world.
@@Miata822 It will likely be my first real motorcycle. I might decide I want more later, and once I sell my manual mx-5 I might decide I miss manual transmissions and want a manual motorcycle, but for now having at least one vehicle I'm not forced to shift is appealing. That storage is the killer feature for me, though. It'd be hard for me to regress in that regard from my moped.
this is the bike to buy with your head not with your heart.
Scooter and bike, the best of both worlds. 99% of the people use bikes to commute not for traveling and here is unbeatable.
Being careful I have done 70 mpg and even 80 mpg . Nothing beats that for commuting where cost is a main factor
Clutchless transmissions will bring in more riders to the hobby. Motorcycles are somewhat of a hobby as most USA people also own a car. Motorcycles almost a luxury in many cases.
I wouldn't mind having a DCT bike as a daily. I feel the euro crowd has always been on something with that notion.
@@petedavis1040 just the scooter/moped crowd. Automatic cars even, are just now the last 2 years being popular, more so than manual transmissions. I’d say that where i live, if someone bought a dct bike, it would have to be a real super touring person.
Yeah I agree I hope dct’s bring more people into the motorcycle world especially with today’s fuel prices
Clutchless? 8-) This bike has two clutches, just not a clutch that you have to operate!
My first bike is a gently used NC I got from a coworker. I beat the piss out of it, but it's a Honda....I'm no match lol
I bought my first DCT bike this year and I love it. Started riding in 68 and like so many others I said I would never own a bike with DCT but after riding 5000 miles so far I am in love. You can still change gears manually with a push of a button. Face facts this is no different than F1 cars. In sport mode it changes gears like a pro. Stay on the gas and it will redline in every gear. Try one before saying no to the DCT.
you started riding in 68 years old?you havent ride a motorcycle in your whole life?
@@thodoris3790 you must not be able to read.
I agree, todays automatics shift far better than most people ever will & as you said, when F1 cars & traditionally manual only sports cars are auto then at least give it an honest try. I've read other DCT reviews & even die-hards (riding since 1968) admit that especially in sport mode, it is really that good. Thanks for your comment.
@@triumphrider2002 I just heard that 54% of Americans read at 6th grade level or lower. Can it be true?
What I don't understand is folks are all raging about quick shifters, but rag on automatic or semi automatic, WTF??? All these cases don't use clutch. DCT having both full auto or paddle shift. Paddle shift is like using a quick shifter but instead of your feet shifting your hand does it. DCT is much smoother and faster compared to a quickshifter so why do folks rag on DCT and rage about quickshifter??? If these folks are so lazy about not using the clutch they should be thrilled in not having to shift at all with full auto or much quicker, smoother and easier with a paddle DCT shifting. A quickshifter so satisfying but a semi-auto or full auto not, WTF???
Totally agree. I have a NC750X DCT. It gives you such a relaxed and safer ride and has ample power. Beats me what the "macho" dislike of DCT is all about. I can well imagine that other manufacturers will eventually follow Honda's lead.
This was my first bike. Had it in manual. Absolutely loved commuting on it, the front trunk is amazing and it handles like a dream because of a low center of gravity,
That frunk makes it a real commuter bike. It'll fit a subway sandwich and a 20oz coke without issue. I'm constantly taking mine (2020, previous model) to grab a this or that and have no worries about where I'm going to put that pint of ice cream or small bag of groceries. It's the New Balance dad shoe of motorcycles. And that's WHY it's so good.
I currently have the nc700s manual as my first bike. I've been riding it 2 years. Planned to upgrade to something faster after the first year but.. It's just so dam good for getting to work and back I don't want to get rid of it! It fits my L helmet, my work laptop (a surface), or 12 beer. So cheap to run too.
@@jsherck I'm 51, a new rider and as i sit here staring at my comfortable as fuck, white on white wide width NB kicks, your last 2 sentences have spoken to me .... i have some decisions to make :)
Thank You!
So at the end of the video, the NC750 makes it into the top 5 on the Daily Rider leaderboard - but every time I watch one of these videos, I feel like the mid-size bikes are usually being disparaged as not having enough horsepower and torque. This may just be the way I hear your comments but I feel like mid-size and smaller bikes are discussed in terms of how they compare to larger motorcycles. I have owned 18 different motorcycles. Yes I compare and contrast them to one another, but I never expect the smaller bikes to stack up against the larger bikes in terms of power. Instead, I am more interested in how I fit on the bike, how the bike fits the riding style it was designed for and how the bike meets my expectations for what it is. Is it possible to make a Daily Rider video about mid-size or smaller displacement motorcycles without contrasting them with bikes that have more horsepower and torque? A bike with a DCT transmission in my world would rate higher on the leader board than a bike that has the ability to do a wheelie - but then I do not feel the need to do many wheelies on my daily ride.
A bike that is much better than the sum of its individual parts. It great smooth light handling bike for real world riding.
This is one of my 3 bikes. I ride it most, not because I don't know how to ride manual ( 2 of my bikes are manuals), not because in lazy, but because it allows me to just enjoy the ride and see my surroundings rather than figuring out what gear to be in on a turn or making sure I need to be on the clutch or neutral gear. It just makes riding fun in a different way. Now my vtx1800f3... is a different fun compared to my CHonda Grom SF.
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Is that really something you need to think about as someone who is experienced enough to own 3 bikes? It should be coming naturally by now bro
@@louisross2919 i think you're missing the point. Even if one does things "automatically" they still need doing. With DCT and this engine you just relaxed all the time, and just happy riding.
It is a pleasure to see the leaderboard and how bikes that normally get no love are able to tower over the hotrods and expensive toys.
Now if they gave this thing a belt drive to cut maintenance even more!
Totally. I have a 2012 version and that is my wish too. Belt drive!!!!!
Why not shaft drive?
@@TheBasil36 weight and cost and power loss. Belt drive is a better and cheaper on mid size bikes
Belt drive doesn't have less maintenance you just trade a hand-full of small jobs for a big job down the road. It is one of those 'next owner' issues though I suppose I can see how people would see belt drives as maintenance free*.
I know I'm late, but to me it looks like this bike is the definition of a daily rider. Automatic transmission so you don't have to bother in the city, storage for helmet that you don't have to take with you to your desk or to put some groceries. Ideal to get to work, maybe a coffe or some shopping after and then home, over the weekend a small trip.
Just bought one a week ago. Possibly the last one in the Northeast of the US. The next closest one was in TN.
Can't believe it isn't more popular. Excellent, excellent commuter. A lot more fun than I thought. I thought it was going to be really slow, and not fun... what are people smoking? The power is more than adequate, the low center of gravity makes it easy and even fun to manuever. I'm in love.
Too many ego riders out here in the US. That’s one of the reasons I prefer watching euro reviews with exception to Zacks Daily ride of course.
Love Zach’s cogent, light hearted and fun reviews!
Watching this over breakfast on Sunday morning before I go for a cool ride on my Vetsys650 GT here in the UK. Great video as always, I really enjoy the presentations from you and Ari.
Honda DCT in manual mode is awesome. It shifts so easy and fast! I have a Rebel 1100 DCT, and it’s easy to do 0-60 in 3 seconds without much of a wheelie 🤣. I do not really care for automatic mode, but I love manual mode more than a manual clutch and shift or a quick shifter.
Me too!
Once you become an Old Fart like me, you will appreciate Auto Transmission,, Manual is for younger whipper snappers...
I wish they had one of these on their smaller displacement bikes. I don't have a need for a 750 and I personally look at a 6,000 dollar motorcycle and say 'That is really expensive' so needless to say a 9,000 dollar bike is a no go. I am looking at getting a Versys 300 and if Honda had one of these in that bracket that'd be great.
27k on my '16 NC700x DCT so far, like Zach says it may not be the most exciting bike in the world, but it gets shit done. Zero problems in that time period. Heated grips, rear case, seat concepts seat, Kaoko throttle stabilizer make it a cruising machine. Racetech springs, gold valves and Ohlins rear shock addressed all suspension issues...
Thank you for this solid review. New rider, who's 6'3 and this answered a lot of my questions. Great work!
I love these videos!!! Thank you Zack for another one, I had been hoping you would do the NC 750.
I love these reviews! They are my Saturday morning lay in bed video 😆👍
Exactly what I’m doing right now while viewing!! Lol I just don’t see myself on a auto bike
I love these videos. Thanks for doing what you do, Zack.
So love your reviews, Zach! I grew up in west Long Beach (off of Santa Fe) and seeing your route brings back fond memories. I did not know there is a new bridge.
What an awesome result for the bike. Thanks for all the awesomeness you bring to us!
Yes, it's very pedestrian, however some people want this, and it is quite suitable for urban commuting. I would never choose an automatic transmission, however it's fine if others want to so long as I have the option to stay manual.
Pedestrian in the sense of being quicker than 95% of cars? It's not just an urban commuter either.
A "standard" do everything bike. No faults.
Love the TH-cam handle. reminds me of when my kids watch the Wiggles
Trust me, this DCT does everything you can do, but better.
well said!
The way the price of gasoline is going this might be a homerun for Honda
You can thank Brandon for that.
Amazing light-hearted review, the train track segment was excellent.
Man I remember watching the NC700X commute and it’s so cool to see it refined and new life breathed into it. Really love this bike and highly considering it. Didn’t get the 700 but the 750 looks that much better.
Great review Zack! I bought a manual 2012 NC700X in 2013 and I love the bike and agree with you all the way. Before I bought this bike the largest bike I had ever owned was a 250. I have ridden this bike off road and it will do it but you are correct about the lack of suspension and being to heavy. So I am currently waiting for a CRF300 Rally to come in. As for gas mileage I average 70 mpg and when ridding conservatively under 50 mph I actually got as high as 90 mpg. I know some are going to say I am stretching the truth but I filled up before I left and filled when I returned with exactly 90 miles on the trip meter and could only get a gallon in the tank. I also want to say thank you again for High Side Low Side interview of Itchy Boots that made my day. I am editing this because the Honda shop just called to say that my CRF300 rally just came in. YAY
Love your reviews- interesting, informative and practical. Seems like a nice bike for what it is, but I'm a dye-in-the-wool Vstrom 650 fanboy. Thanks for the work you do.
Love the trunk space, under the false tank! My Yamaha Vmax had the fuel tank under the seat too! Great video! Motorcycle technology is really coming along! 👍
A very accessible bike for disabled rider. I was at my local bike workshop and got chatting with a guy who only had one arm and this is model of bike he rode
Actually its very practical design. Scooters are not safe on higher speeds and this will definitely bridge the gap between comfort and motorbiking.
Honda is my favorite in all Japanese brands. They think like consumers who actually need practical machines than beasts on two wheels.
Very nice honda..
@Diesel S. And to think Honda makes the Forza 750 with the same motor as a scooter. fiddlesticks about scooters not being safe on highways.
@@dukeloo non maxi scooters aren't safe on the highway.
@@dukeloo Small tires, always less safe than big tires, its just basic science.
@@RaunakPSingh whats the science behind that
@@rayhan4502 Large wheels with more width provided better stability, grip and braking.
Large wheel will cover more distances than the smaller one with the same RPM. And thick tyre will help you to more stabalize your vehicle.
Larger wheels have an easier time negotiating obstacles - roughness on the road and timbers and crevasses on the trail. The larger the wheel, the more it can span holes and the easier time it has climbing over stuff.
Excellent video Zack. I predicted you would rank this at No. 6. I’m happy to see it landed one spot higher. I think this bike may be the one of the best-value-for-money bikes out there, at least for me. Your review here has made this bike even more interesting to me than it already was. Thank you for presenting this video.
Hi Zack. Nice test drive and evaluation and analysis from you again. I would like anyone who is looking for a motorcycle to watch the episodes where the ones that interest him are introduced. I hope you can continue making these for a long time - there are always new and interesting motorcycles on the market.
I picked up a 2020 leftover NC750X Manual and absolutely love it it does everything I need it to do and is a blast to ride.
I just bought a 2020 Africa Twin Adventure Sport DCT that I absolutely love but I think if I was a little older and didn't do as much off-road, this bike would be great! I love the frunk, so smart.
Just a constructive criticism here: Please add conversion pop up notes when speaking of specs, I know I can look it up but I don't want to pause from the immersive experience to convert it.Of course unless 99% of the subscribers are from US and only I am from the outside 😘.
I've always kind of looked down on the NC 700/750 while on my Versys 1000 or on my old (and beloved) XJ6F, but you almost made me want the NC. Looks like a very, VERY good daily rider. Thanks for another excellent video, Zack!
I loved it. Probably one of the best bike for daily ride.
Honda makes the fastest and smoothest up-and-down quick shifter on the market. Period. But you can only find it on left hand grip of the Rebel 1100, the Africa Twins, the Goldwings, and this 750. Paddle shifters. They do the same damn thing as quick shifting with your foot, but markedly faster, smoother, and better.
I'm all about track/racing and only do GP/Reverse shifting but for street, DCT seem like a very good thing.
I bought a Honda NM4 a few years ago to try out the DTC. It’s amazing how they work. For a commuter or even a touring bike, a DTC is a good choice. That being said, I opted for a standard transmission when I bought my Africa Twin,
Thanks for another great real-world review. If I still commuted into DC every day, I would like to have one of these in the garage.
Whenever people talk about the DCT, they seem to suggest it's mostly good for people who can't use a manual, but I just find it interesting. I daily a manual non-abs Miata, and I would choose the DCT ABS model just to have something different. I also consider an automatic to be a (slight) safety feature. Of all the motorcycles I see, this is one of the few that feels like a true upgrade from a scooter. Most others seem to forget practicality or are quite large.
As with cars, it provides the choice between manual or auto...which has to be a good thing
This transmission is brilliant. Especially on the goldwing. Especially in town and in traffic. Especially on the Blueridge parkway. The NC750 x seat is horrible. Just horrible. Cement is softer. Everything else is brilliant.
Yep. One of the first mods on my NC was the seat. I'll never understand how I can spend 3hrs on my riding mower in perfect comfort, but my butt hurts in
Lots of owners that have tried the 2021 model say the seat is now fixed, older model it was hard and had a bad slope.
Agreed. With tequila. The seat on my X sucks. I need to look for an upgraded because I won’t part with the bike.
Not the 2022
Will you regret the transmission, when the DC needs maintenance? Is a service significantly more expensive? (Looking for a secondary low running cost/low maintenance bike.) Thanks.
I got this bike this last summer! Its so nice just jump on and go, no weird hyper sonic throttle torque like the Africa twin, just cruise at your own comfortable level
Finally!!!!! I've been waiting for this review for a long time now!!!!
As an owner of the previous model in the UK, I'd say your review is scrupulously fair and balanced! I was looking at a scooter so interesting you got a question on that, my take was that the TMax is slower and costs about 50% so the NC was an easy choice. Best words to describe? Practical, utilitarian, honest. The sort of bike that used to sell before bikes were hobbies or toys. A modern take on a CX500/650 or NTV600/650 i think. Again very practical and worthy just not going to set your pants on fire. Does it make me go "Wow!" when i open the garage? No. But as a jack of all trades including touring round Europe? Yeah it'll do that and cost pennies. Next logical step up has to be the new NT1100!
I've had two and done over 60,000 miles commuting on them. 70 mpg (UK), DCT for central London traffic, 80 mph cruising speed. If there's a better commuter bike I've never found it. Would I buy one for fun? Hell no.
Yeah it's not a thrill ride. But if you're an accountant then the 60-70mpg might give you a huge rush.
What happened to the 1st one? I'd expect these bikes to handle that kind of mileage well.
@@IslandTosh I traded it in for a new one after 50,000 miles
@@jsherck if going places and seeing new things is your thrill. Then this bike will do that well.
Wow, was not expecting a top 5 ranking. Splendid review.
this review was strangely relaxing in the way other daily riders are not, and i imagine that is exactly what the nc750x DCT it as well, strangely relaxing....
Bought a '21 NC750x (the manual version) as my first street bike a couple months back, I agree with pretty much everything you have to say about the bike. It's very neutral experience, it's not bad to ride but it definitely won't blow your socks off. However as a daily commuter it's perfectly suited for that role. My only real complaint about the bike would be the LCD display; if the sun even thinks about putting a little light near it I can't read it at all. The only time I think that display looks good is at night when it's lit up. Things I like about the bike; the styling and the frunk. I consider the bike more of a light tourer or a standard with some ADV styling ques, and as a new rider that spent most of my money on a down payment and gear I didn't exactly have the cash to spend on a Givi top box or a pair of saddle bags. When I ride, my Kryptonite chain, hat, phone, and mask go in there; when I get where I'm going that all comes out, the bike gets chained, and my bulky riding jacket goes in the frunk. Over all I like it for what I use it for, and if I could use an analogy to describe this bike it would be vanilla ice cream. Sure it isn't as interesting as some of the other choices you have available but, it's still going to be an enjoyable experience, even if it is the kinda plain and safe option.
I rode a NT700V (Deauville) a few years back, bought a GS 1200 LC, then a KTM 1190, then used Vespa GTS's to commute. And now replaced them with this NC750 X DCT. I still have my ducati 916 and KTM 1190 Adventure. All in all really happy with the NC. Had it for five months now. It handles the daily grind with excellence. It's got lots of storage space, reasonably quick, reliable, relatively easy to clean, affordable, frugal on petrol and so easy to ride. It's very quite on the exhaust side, but when you're commuting a lot that's more of an advantage than an inconvenience. It can stand a nice little sequence of bends at high rythm, but it's clearly not what it was meant for. On the minus: seat can be seen as on the harsh side, wind protection ain't great (but perfectly doable -DON't BUT THE HIGH WINDSCREEN, it blows everything in your helmet), for tall guys like me (190cm) the leg angle is a tad too tight (I see Zach is also noticing this whilst being smaller), it could be a bit more torquey still, the brakes are calculated for solo commuting and not for duo touring or track day use (but then, the price is not that of a Ducati V2), the auto transmission is not as intuitive as you'd like (shifts on roundabouts, sometimes shifts too quickly, sometimes hangs to a gear too long for no reason) and my bike, as others, has had quite a lot of stalling issues on traffic lights. Especially on cold engine, but can happen after running for hours too. Quite annoying to have all those cars ready to start behind you, and you stalling like a learner. To summarize, if the NC 750 came with 20 horsepower more, a regular manual shifter with a perfect quickshifter system, it'd be the best commuting bike ever. The NC 750 is one of those bikes you like a lot because it never upsets you and allways does what you expect (well unless it pisses you off by stalling at the red light..). Just like you like the GS not for sheer passion, but for capability at doing what it's aimed for (which isn't commuting, Zach! the lady is too fat and expensive ), whilst if you just judge it on a few minutes riding you'll think its boring. the NC just makes life easy, every day. So yeah, it does spark joy. I ride 150+ hp bikes, but for every day, no one needs more than the NC. Replaces a car without any problem, especially with a 60 L givi top case on the back. And by the way, my Shoei NXR and Schubert C4 fit in the frunk without any issue
Great daily ride, Zach. That’s an interesting, different bike.
I absolutely love how it looks feels like a not too expensive adv/touring that is not affraid of the road, would get manual and maybe quickshifter? But you can't say you hate it. Next month i got my mod 1, so far this is my first bike to buy and start doing miles hopefully crossing borders. Great review. Be safe!
I love my Honda NM4 with DCT!!! The DCT is amazing and wonderful, that offers many benefits not immediately obvious to those not in the know, such as linear power delivery and improved mpg. It’s rare rally-race technology on a budget motorcycle! However, I think Honda missed the mark by not replacing the clutch lever under the left hand with a brake lever for the rear brake as is the convention on bicycles and scooters. Feels weird and awkward to not have any controls on the left side. Otherwise, DCTs are dream machines!
I guess this would make a good commuter bike for work, especially in stop start traffic. I'd definitely want a second "fun" bike for weekends though.
Thanks for taking it down the dirt! My driveway is pretty similar and about 1/4 mile long.
Seems like a great bike, especially for someone with injuries to their left hand or foot. I like the storage as well, and I'm sure it has some storage options on the back end as well.
Zach,
I have bought and maintained two NC700X's. A manual and a DCT. When discussing daily rider machines you really need to put in MSRP as the GS is $20,000, fuel mileage, cost of maintenance or the ease of doing your own maintenance. If you included these which are important on a daily commuter that may have well put the NC in the number 1 or 2 position. The NC700X or DCTgets 70 mpg and in the mountains it goes to 80+. I would think the 750 is above 60. It would be nice to see a long term review on this and include the above categories. If you put on a good chain and oiler that would eliminate cost of a chain and sprocket replacement for 30,000 miles, the valves are easily adjustable by your average person who has the gumption to learn as they aren't shim over bucket. Yep a wrench, screwdriver and feeler guages. Air filter once done is easy. Sure you have to buy the centerstand to do these. Forks are no harder than any other. These things add value to a daily commuter or daikey rider as shops are charging over $100 an hour these days.
I agree as a 6'3" rider that a taller windshield is a good thing. A two brothers exhaust or a DanMoto really makes those two cylinders sing. Nice and throaty. Frunk is wonderful. Put some GIVI bags and a trunk on it and this machine will tour all over and do it inexpensively. More storage than a Goldwing too!
What a great test video. Being a lifelong Honda MC man, along with once owning an Accord and still running a 1987 Honda lawn mower (best ever), I would have to label this bike as the closest thing to a Honda Accord on two wheels. My current rides are a 1985 GL1200I, a '81 GL1100 Standard and a '72 CB450. This bike would be the closest match to the 450. Wet it is close to the weight at ~470#. Single disk front brake (make from wood), 44HP, and you really need to work the make the 450 pull a wheelie. Thanks for the information, it really makes sense.
I have one, bought it, after use of two different maxi scooters. it's comfortable, reasonable and easy to use . Up to 2k km's, i'm happy with that.
We need a triumph Trident 660 Daily Ride!! Ive been looking to get a good naked bike and love how much detail you give in these videos! Great job Mr. Courts!
Nice review. I'm always amazed as you (in US) drive automatic cars for so long and default automatic bikes. In Europe we drive manual geared cars and have no problem to drive dct bikes or scooters. 😂. Greetings.
I had to teach 3 separate young European ladies how to drive an automatic car when they got to the US. Very few people in the US under 25 can drive a manual car. They never have had to.
That really is an interesting observation! Haha. Car is for practicality/travel here in the US, motorcycles are purchased purely for fun 99% of the time. I guess we want that clutch engagement because we do not intend to use it for commuting. I guess it's why I see so many bikes for sale with 5000 miles on them.
As a current DCT rider, I DO NOT RECOMMEND DCT to beginners for 3 reasons.
1) Whiskey throttling
There is nothing to cut power to the bike. The user needs to completely understand and respect how sensitive throttle responses can be. An ignorant full twist of the wrist can easily send the rider into orbit.
2) low speed maneuvers (beginners worst enemy)
Where you would be normally feathering the clutch and controlling how much power you give the bike, you can’t with a DCT. Which means you have to work more attentively to keep the motorcycle from running away from you when doing tasks such as tight u-turns. This usually involves pinning the rear brake at particular intervals which takes skill to get it right even for seasoned riders.
3) traction during turns
A bike has the most traction when the suspension is loaded with either throttle or brake. DCTs cannot perceive road conditions like the human eye and have a habit of shifting at wrong times during turns which momentarily unloads the suspension and can cause you to slip. It’s uncommon but it does happen occasionally. It can be quite jarring.
DCT is great technology and is commonly misunderstood in the motorcycle world. It is very practical and convenient when used correctly. But in my opinion, it does take a bit more knowledge of how riding works to use it effectively when compared to a traditional manual transmission.
I personally enjoy my DCT and do not regret getting one. I was skeptical at first until I rode one for the first time. It was a blast with lots of smiles.
I never heard these arguments against a DCT for newbies but they all make perfect sense. An electric would probably be better
Hey Danny, I got a Rebel 1100 DCT as my first motorcycle, this is my experience
1) Whiskey Throttling - There are 4 ride modes available : Normal, Sport, Custom, and Rain. I started in Rain and that greatly reduces throttle sensitivity. I actually had more challenges with whiskey throttling on a manual transmission due to having to remember to use both clutch and throttle. It takes a while to develop the muscle memory to control both and with the DCT it's just easier. Too much power, on the DCT just let go of throttle just like you would a clutch and throttle.
2) Rain mode helps greatly with low speed maneuvers, on the DCT I practiced heavily on figure 8's and sharp turns from a stop in prep for my new rider course at Harley Davidson. Felt comfortable on a traditional motorcycle and the DCT, both were fine. On the DCT you learn to go easy on the throttle and on the manual you learn to feather the throttle and clutch.
3) Have to heartily disagree on this one , one of the best things about the DCT is running into a corner and the ability to adjust speed without worrying about what gear to enter in, what gear to change into if you get it wrong. At no point in my riding has my Rebel ever "unloaded the suspension," corners are extremely smooth in the DCT and I go looking for for roads with corners. I don't enjoy highway miles, I enjoy the twisties.
With that being said, it is fun running through the gears on a manual transmissions. I do plan on getting a second bike and that will be a manual.
@@bhdutt great points! Unfortunately, older DCT models with non-electronic throttles don’t have riding modes to compensate.
These were just small things I noticed after going from manual motorcycles to the DCT. Each choice has its pros and cons and will do better at different things than the other.
I do not dismiss the DCT, it is wonderful technology and makes a lot of sense for some people. It unapologetically serves a niche in the motorcycle community and does it well. Who could hate on that? Personally though, my next bike will be a manual again. DCT is just a crutch I never needed.
You're in California, but if you live in a state where lane splitting isn't allowed, you'll appreciate that automatic transmission in stop and go rush hour traffic. I have an NM4 based off the nc700 and love it in Dallas traffic.
I had a 700 (hit the limiter easily when accelerating) and the 750x nicely refined, can only imagine Honda has done further refinements. Fun bike.
It looks to be dead easy to maintain. Easy Access to the cylinder head, screw and locknut valve adjustment!
Yup, they're dead easy. Top end is near identical to the car engine it was original based on, hence the low rev limit.
It is, indeed
I've got the NC700X, there's nothing difficult I've found so far.
I am very much looking at the manual NC750X for my next bike but I am a boring dad and cruise around on a Trail 125 as my main bike currently. Performance is lost on me anyways.
Same! Using the Trail 125 currently, and considering this next
I ride 750X manual for quite few years now, we got them in Europe from 2014. I’m having hard time parting with this bike. It’s so good! It’s so easy to ride that I really like when someone is mocking it - especially if there is twisty road ahead. 😈
I have the manual version. Before this one, I've had the 2019 model, also manual. I love this bike, very underrated.
I currently own the 2021 model. It's my second one, after the 2014 I mistakenly sold. Both were six-speed manuals. Extremely versatile bike.
and it's a Honda, so it's hard to break. I plan to keep this one awhile. If you really want to make it a keeper, upgrade the seat, fort springs, rear shock and windshield. It could use a little more power, but I know Hayabusa guys who say that too.
Thanks Zach, great content as always. It's clear that you're not a NC750X DCT fan, but its cool you weighed it on its own merits. I can't imagine how the Multistrada could possibly be a better daily commute to work bike than the NC750X DCT, but there you go. I'm a DCT fan. I've had the NC700X, Africa Twin, VFR1200X and Gold Wing all in DCT flavor and I dig them. It makes the most sense on the Gold Wing and NC750X, imo.
After enduring just over 4 decades of bikelessness since riding my Honda 125 dirt bike for the last time as a kid, I am finally ready to buy my first street bike. My short-list began with an NC750X also approved as a decent "Daily Rider." 8 months later (& following a ton of research), I have come full circle and ending where I began - at the NC750. This bike has amassed quite a loyal following with literally tens of thousands of happy, dedicated fans worldwide. And with all of the compliments, criticisms and recommended modifications, I would agree that "thoughtful" is indeed the perfect word that captures the totality of its added value, best. This is the bike for me - just wish it came in black ( versus red - the only colour option in Canada).
I have the 2020 manual version which has the higher suspension and also get 70+ MPG on the highway averaging between 70 & 80. I love it.
I’ve been waiting for this review for years! I personally love the DCT. It has gotten better and better in every iteration from Honda. Also, they’ve lowered the seat height on this bike making it more accessible to shorter riders which is entirely under appreciated in most reviews. Shorter bikes mean more riders enjoying motorcycling. As with the rest of the world, making things more accessible is ALWAYS good for everyone.
Not necessarily. There was the NC750S for shorter riders, now we only have the lowered X so i reality they're now excluding the taller guys and we'll have to look elsewhere when we change next.
Proud owner of a 2018 model. Hands down, one of the best bikes I've ever owned. Great gas mileage, easy to maintain, and great utility. Currently getting 65mpg average with 90% highway(manual version). I just wish the gas tank was bigger.
My 300 Versys has the same gas milage and a 4.5 gallon tank
@@kd350 awesome range! Considered the Versys, but the ease of maintenance from the NC750X won me over.
@@petes_CE Yep the 16 ft/lbs. of torque or lack thereof is an acquired taste. Still I have loads of bikes up to a mile behind chasing me. I wait up at every intersection.
I got an NC750DCT so I could keep riding after 45 years as I have arthritis in my left hand fingers and couldn't use the clutch. The auto was a life saver for me. I would love a cruise control on it but get by with an Atlas Throttle Lock when the arthritis in my right hand gets too painful. I put a Pugi touring screen on mine and it works an absolute treat.
Great video! Such a good roads you have there. I'd like to be in US again now.
great bike :) I wish for more dct models :)
I was so taken with the review of the Versey I chatted up my dealer I have a relationship with and checked it out. He recommended the Honda minus the DCT instead. He has treated me right for years and the fact he steered me to a less expensive machine than the Versey made me think he was legitimately trying to help me out. I think bottom line is he finds Honda's better to maintain. While I have spoken with many long time riders who like the DCT I would use the money I save for accessories, probably luggage.
You really need to try a DCT. Its game changing. The ease during the twisties...
I’ve always had a soft spot for this bike. Great gas mileage, friendly, storage, low gravity. People say it’s the Toyota Corolla of motorcycles. It really is. It’s a great commuter bike, it’s not going to surprise you, and it’s forgiving. I had the CB500X for several years, which is basically the smaller version of this, and I loved it. I would buy this bike purely for the MPG, honestly. The DCT fascinates me, for sure, but I’m not sure I’d get it. It’d be weird to not have a clutch to operate.
Point is, I love this bike. I really do.
Yes! We need more bikes like these! So good.