On the contrary.. DJI just opened the gates for people to be interested in the custom drone market. A lot of people have no interest in assembling drones and as a result, will never experience FPV. DJI just welcomed every new comer to try it.
That's literally why there are "RTF" or "BNF" (ready-to-fly/bind-and-fly) prebuilt FPV quads. They're sold by all major drone part manufacturers, iFlight, Armattan, Catalyst Machineworks, Eachine, etc. They come prebuilt, no assembly required, you just choose the receiver option that matches your own radio controller for BNF, or just buy the RTF and get one included. DJI didn't open the gates here, they just brought their fans along in a curated tour bus. Will more people get to experience the joy of FPV flight? Yes, and that's great, but will they stay?
@@syntaera yes RTF or BNF require almost no assembly but the problem is that they are still built quads. I think, It's like built pc's and MAC. You can order a built pc and plug it right away. However, still it won't be like a MAC. MAC is even simpler and if something is wrong you directly go to the customer services and they fix it. The thing that i try to say is that "DJI FPV DRONE" is way easier to get, fly and if something goes wrong, you directly go to the DJI customer service. However, upgrading it is a lot harder than RTF and BNF
wtf kind of replies are these, have nothing to do with your comment heh but yeah, i was a bit sad when they glossed over the geometry and placements of the flight boards, would have loved to see a better breakdown of an arm replacement too. iFixit, don't hesitate to bring out a soldering iron to show a major replacement like an arm
It might seem like it’s a Great entry to the FPV Market, but it isn’t. If you want to do any tricks you Crash and plastic parts are just not as unbreakable as 4or 5mm carbon fiber. The parts of regular quads are designed to survive a LOT of crashes. DJI Fpvs Quad Break waaaaayyyyy more often
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Dji comes with a package of issues related to racing and frystyle, as for today noone will race or do acrobatics with dji for sure... its good if you shooting a video but regular old school fpv does the job to, amd for cheaper... Anyways even dji googles is not fiting this marked sice latency... Well if you want to crash your drone on high speeds and tight corners, go ahead....
Dji won’t take me over purely because I crash enough that I’d be dumbing money in to it. My 5 inch can just tank it. I do want their digital system though
@@Nilloc777 yes so true I only run a iflight dc5 6s it’s been though the wars had a few front legs replaced but it’s a greet freestyle rig and works ok as a bando basher, got the dji fpv and it’s destroyed when a sensor error warning came up and it cut out falling about 20m onto grass and it’s ruined total rubbish hallow plastic legs and exposed camera gimbal is no good for this sport
It's always better to not have any background music than have background music which is too loud. I vote for leaving the background music out all together. The background music made it hard to understand what the presenter was saying in this otherwise fantastic video. Increasing the amount of puppy dog would also be good.
I disagree with you saying FPV drones usually have limited compatability. The opposite is true, I love being able to replace almost any part with a different similar one if I can’t find the original
But that is absolutely peanuts compared to typical fpv drones. Can you switch the motors on your mavic and phantom? On fpv drones there are like 7 parts needed to assemble a quad (frame, fc, esc, camera, vtx, motors, props) and you can mix and match almost every part together. There is a standard for everything, and even competing companies still make parts that can work together. Where as dji have gone out of their way to make their products impossible to modify
@@Bean-Time no I was arguing against how they stated that normal FPV drones have limited compatability. And how you can replace almost anything with anything else if you know what you’re doing. DJI made a lot of good choices with this drone, but I am still sticking with my homemade ones
The thing about it is, it isn't really an FPV drone. Sure, it can be an FPV drone, but it's more of its own thing half way between a camera drone and an FPV drone. It's honestly best when flown in Sport mode with all its sensors and computers working to assist the pilot in some fun, but not too challenging flying and to capture some cool shots. I see it as a method for Mavic pilots to get FPV footage without having to invest time and energy into the real hobby. Of course, it can also be a gateway to the hobby, and I hope DJI eventually sells a gen 2 air unit to work with the combo controller and goggles so that people who want to make the jump to real FPV can do so without having to buy new goggles and controllers.
SHORT ANSWER: NO. the custom market is shifting to performance Sub 250G class in the 80USD-to190USD price range as a bind and fly because of FAA overregulation that will kill this specific Drone. The ADS-B receiver is nice though and we hobbyists are looking at it with envy, but it wont mean we want to buy a prius for the night vision or the heads up display instead of our bare bones Porsche GT home builds that turn on a dime and boost in a heartbeat for less than 1/4 the investment. Does the term "Split S to a power loop though a tree gap to an immelman out at no less than 50% THROTTLE " escape you? then go buy the hybrid Camaro without launch control and AUTONOMOUS garage parking...
This new drone has two main things going for it. One, it is easy to fly. Not many FPV drones can easily hover. Two, the transmitted video image is better than anything else available in this price range. It's better than what you get from their Air Units.
@@ddegn repair costs though, not good. you'll see new people crash and break this 1000$ drone very easily and break a prop arm or two, then pay more than base cost to repair it
@@TropicalCyc "very easily and break a prop arm or two" Yes if they fly it like a small FPV drone. In normal mode they can cruse around all day (if they have enough batteries) and not crash if they don't do anything wild. Personally, I'm sure I could repair an arm or two on the thing. The transmitted video quality on the thing is amazing. It's a better fit for someone wanting to enjoy the view than someone wanting to perform crazy freestyle moves.
I like the drone cause it might get someone interested, and then they might stumble onto a video guide of how to build your first fpv quad, and make it for a couple hundred instead
I think this might be an initial version to get much needed feedback from enthusiasts. Once thats done they should release a v2 drone. Like they've improved from the original phantom to a mavic since people wanted much more portability.
even though this is looked at as a POS in most of the real FPV community (you know the people that can ACTUALLY fly a drone) the engineering is amazing.. but that is the problem for what we real pilots do..we need something WE can fix in the field.. $200 for DJI care plus a $200 deductible isn't going to cut it..
@@oliverhoffman4574 Theres already several videos of DJI FPV breaking its arms in minor crashes. On the other hand you can literally fly a freestyle quad into a wall and most times you just bend the props back and go again.
The FPV Hobby, not custom drone market. And most of us welcome it, but it has to be done right. It could have come in a better form factor, and a stronger/more repairable frame and canopy, because you only learn in FPV by crashing.
they not pissed of, actualy dji is not threat to regular fpv, dji dont try to compete, they make cinema drones, and if you try to fly this dji as fpv always did, you will see that for that its a piece of junk... Its exceeds in video production but not in flying causes its made in mind video production, thats what dji does... And video feed latency from dji googles is unusable in racing or freestyle... Dji brings good inovations and that's welcome. This drone is more like marketing material, ppl see dji fpv, then see regular fpv footage, normaly make expectations that this drone flee even better, but after first crash and more research they will buy regular fpv, more ppl in hobby is better...
I’ve crashed and spent many hours looking for my old fpv drones so brought this on launch day but a sensor failure made mine drop uncontrollably mid flight , for one dji wanted an extra £250 on top of the £300 dji care I already paid and second it’s been 3 weeks and still have no idea when I will get it back from the repair . Watse of time I’m back on analog I’ll sell the dji fpv when it’s fixed
Mines dropped out of the sky in manual mode broke to rear legs which i have successfully repaired unfortunately my sensor was damaged I can’t tell if it happened mid flight or it was from the impact damaged. I have no idea why i lost power
I Think this drone is for videographers that want the FPV cinematic shots but dont have the time to learn, build and master FPV drones, the guys who have DJI care already for the rest of their fleet. for those who want the DJI quality video and already are FPV pilots will use the air units. i wouldnt say DJI are trying to make a freestyle drone for the FPV world rather an FPV drone for the videography world
For short: Yes. (Only carbon) It would increase the durability of the Quad by a lot (depending on how it would be made), as compared to a typical Fpv Quad Frame, this thing is way less durable, and not really ment to being crashable. (Sorry, if this is information which you already knew)
Agreed. The people who want to repair their own electronics likely know how to solder. Adding connectors increases the price, bulk and environmental impact of the item. One of the most common causes of failure in an item are connectors coming loose. Adding additional connectors adds all sorts of problems while helping the very few people who are capable of repairing electronics who don't know how to solder.
The trick will be to customize this drone. Put the video system from this drone into a more capable drone and you'd really have something. I think NURK FPV showed an example of someone doing this. I think Drone Dudes used the video system from the DJI FPV and put it on a much larger drone.
Do you know if the version2 goggles and controller will work with a smaller drone like the protek25 or similar? I would love to have a small drone to fly around my yard and only use the dji fpv in bigger open areas... wondering how hard it would be to switch back and forth also? Thanks for any help you can give!
I'm pretty sure the controller which comes with this drone can only be used with this drone. The goggles should work with other DJI Air Units but the controller doesn't work with the Air Units.
@@TLK22 there is no "previous dji drone" working with these gogles. It's even in the video. V1 version worked only with separate attachemnt to classic fpv drones.
@@iKuro1337 th-cam.com/video/HYX77f7ZKxc/w-d-xo.html I never said it works with the v2 googles. I said you can buy FPV googles for the previous DJI drone like the M2P.
What do you mean by "stock controller"? The control board of the smaller drone? Most drones (including the small one at the beginning of this video) don't have fans. They rely on the air from the props and moving through the air to cool the board. Many drone transmitters will overheat if they aren't flying.
If you mean the controller with the joysticks then no. The controller which stays with the pilot doesn't have a fan inside but it does have a couple big heatsinks. Search my name on Hackday IO for a look inside the controller.
@@ddegn Ah I see I looked you up on Hackday, so the Dji Fpv joystick controller doesn't have a cooling fan but what's weird is that some people have said that they can hear a cooling fan in it..., maybe they confused it with the goggles?
@@tenslider6722 It depends on how they fly. It's about 16 minutes with very tame flying. If they fly faster and do tricks the time is greatly reduced. There's a guy on the DJI forums who posted a video showing a test down to 0% battery. I think he got 16 minutes flying slowly.
This is not the first time DJI tried to enter the fpv market, but they seem to fail both times to get that fpv is a hobby, and it's too expensive as is, and most wouldn't want to crash a $1200 drone. Besides, you keep saying "beginner friendly", No it's NOT! You know what's beginner friendly? Open source, cheap easley fixable copters with a lot of parts and customizable... This meets NONE of the qualities mentioned above!
"You know what's beginner friendly? Open source, cheap easley fixable copters with a lot of parts and customizable..." Those things are great but the DJI drone is still beginner friendly. It's super easy to fly. I'm pretty sure these new drones are selling very fast. DJI only allows people to order one. Other sellers are having trouble keeping them in stock. It's kind of hard to call this a failure when they're sell so well. It's $1200 for the full set. The drone itself is "only" $700. I agree, $700 is crazy expensive for this drone. The whole package isn't too bad though. The transmitted video from this drone is better than any other option I'm aware of.
@@racistpixel1017 "Most of beginer can only dream about buying one" Yes when comparing current options. It's still less expensive than when I started getting into RC aircraft. I wanted an aircraft which could hover and take photos so I purchased a RC helicopter. The helicopter and all the gear was crazy expensive. This was about 40 years ago. I ended up using slow flying RC airplanes to take aerial photographs. Taking aerial photographs with remote controlled aircraft used to be very difficult and very expensive. This DJI is crazy inexpensive compared to the gear 40 years ago. Of course there are lots of inexpensive options now. It's a fun time to be in this hobby.
@@ddegn cant argue, its a great time to start, there is super Budget solutions with crazy performance, probably even to powerfull for a first aircraft/drone. when i was a child i realy was dreaming of a remote control plane with a camera to see... For me that was a scfi dream back then XD
How does the data pass from the drone to the controller/goggles? The googles have those big antennas so I guess the drone directly communicates with the goggles. Does the controller communicate directly with the drone or does it relay through the more powerful goggle?
It's been a year and iFixIt didn't answer you (LOL) but the drone connects directly to the controller, and the drone connects directly to the goggles as well.
Yeas and it uses analog video feed that helps not to crash, youtuberis misinform ppl that digital is the way to go, while in reality if you fly like fpv supposed to fly, with digital 100% you crash, no matter how good pilot you are.
if you want a good build racing drone just get a immersion rc one its a bit old now but flys good and is build like we build them are selfs so its easy to repair
Hey! I’m having an issue with my goggles going in and out of a black screen, and a slight blur in the left lens. Any idea what could be the issue here? I have DJI care and reached out about the issue. But perhaps there’s something I could do to fix. Great video!
You and most of the “fpv” folks always miss a huge point here.. home built fpv drones even those built by people who know what they are doing can not land or take off without goggles.. The best part of DJIs drone is its ability to be flown like the photo drones most of its consumers are used too. With a flick of a switch it’s flown just like a camera drone.. no goggles needed. This gives it the ability to be flown anywhere without the safety issues that come with traditional fpv equipment. It’s good for beginners but it’s great for photographers who want that extra footage without all the safety issues and the learning curve that come with traditional fpv homemade equipment.
Can you please show a tear down of the controller? My FIRST time adjusting the sticks and the adjustment screw came out and dropped INSIDE the controller. Now I can’t tune my remote or recover the screw. I haven’t even turned the drone on yet and I’m already set back..
There are four screws holding the controller together. I've uploaded photos of the inside of the controller to my Hackaday IO page. Search my user name to find it.
You'd also need to replace the ESCs. I don't know if the ESC DJI uses communicates with the control board the same way hobby ESCs communicate. I plan on investigating this in the future. I'll likely post anything I find on my Hackaday(dot)io page.
@twopaste I would assume DJI used ESCs rated for the motors they used. A more powerful motor would require more power from the ESC. There could also be a problem with more powerful motors drawing more current from the battery. The battery has internal fuses which are more likely to blow with more powerful motors. Increasing the power of the drone will likely require more than just changing the motors.
I've taken photos of the insides of one of my batteries. I haven't uploaded the images yet but I plan to in the near future. You should be able to find the images on my Hackday(dot)io page. The battery was surprisingly easy to take apart.
@@ddegn Thank you, I'll look out for it. I noticed there were two screws right on the outside of the case but it didn't like the case would open with them removed so I was worried it might have been glued as well. I guess it's just a tight fit?
@@yngndrw. The two screws are hold the top long piece of plastic in place. The top piece still has to be pried open from the plastic clips. My battery has a couple marks where I forced the screwdriver in to pry things apart but doesn't look too bad. There is glue holding thin black plastic to the sides of the batteries. It's not strong glue and as I said before, I was surprised how easy it was to take apart. DJI's RoboMaster S1's batteries were much harder to take apart. I loaded the photos onto my computer yesterday. I'll try to upload some to my Hackaday page today.
@@ddegn Thank you I appreciate you uploading those photos. I was surprised to see that it has fuses - 180A of fuses in total. I was hoping to work out if after-market batteries could be used but I've fallen at the first hurdle, the connectors. I suspected that these were 3mm bullet connectors but the springs are on the wrong side. The male bullets fit into the battery but the female connectors are loose on the drone. Having the pictures so that I can see where the clips are is worth its weight in gold, I should be able to easily disassemble mine without damaging it now.
I wonder how many people would be interested in fpv flying but aren't interested in high speed flying. I would happily take the same latency as traditional phone+controller solutions in combination with something like a Facebook Quest for "just okay" fpv flying without the high speed and super precise control.
Another note, you are the third reviewer who has stated that digital has longer range then analog. This is simply and entirely untrue. Analog has an immense advantage over digital in terms of range. DJI has the range marked at around 4km. A good analog setup could easier go 20km plus.
@@foam27 No you are correct I cannot argue the picture quality. But all in the same I’d much rather just buy the goggles and a DJI fpv unit and use that. You get the best of everything, the performance and repair ability of homemade drones, and the picture quality of DJI. I don’t do super long range so the range is a non issue to me, I just wanted to clarify for those watching that some things he said were invalid.
@@isaaclanier1507 I think you are correct about the range issue but not about the picture quality. The transmitted video from the new FPV drone is superior than the quality transmitted from an Air Unit. NURK FPV made a video about this new drone and commented about the superior video quality over his other DJI goggle experience. Before seeing NURK's video, I had assumed the video quality would be similar to an Air unit. NURK's video convinced me I wanted this new drone because of the improved transmitted video.
@@ddegn Ok yes sorry it is improved, I guess what I’m saying is for me at least, it isn’t enough to warrant going DJI and losing flexibility and repair ability rather then just building my own and using an Air unit. The Air unit is so good as it is that quite frankly I don’t feel the need for the better video
@@isaaclanier1507 There a plenty of legitimate reasons not to get this drone. I was considering getting DJI googles and a few Air Units for a long time. This thing come out and it apparently has even better video. As an added bonus it will easily hover. My other analog FPV quads are really hard to fly and nearly impossible to hover. I really like being able to hover as I fly FPV and I really like this new drone. If I had an Air Unit with Goggles I'm sure I would have liked that and I would likely not have purchased the new drone. It's great there's more options.
nah, people who do it as a hobby will continue to do it as a hobby, because it is a hobby. Just because prebuilt computers exist doesn't mean nobody can build their own.
Lol, those red topsky goggles you had on the table @ 5:46 are the biggest pile of garbage. It's just for looks guys - please no one buy those :D Not a bad tear down - we just need a carbon frame to transplant this all too :D
Many of us don’t lack the ability or financial resources to purchase and fly diy FPV drones. We realize that we have minimal tine for a hobby that does not generate income. Simulator to purchasing an Audi R8 instead of building our own car.
Short answer: no, the DJI FPV drone has less power and flies way more sloppy than cutom built FPV drones. Also there's no modularity like for custom ones, where you have endless options for the combinations of parts. Also, fixing a custom drone only costs a few bucks and maybe an hour of your time, compared to DJI FPV where you pay a fortune to send it in and let DJI fix it themselves.
No the dji fpv drone isn't going to kill the custom drone market, in fact out of the 4 friends I know that bought the dji fov drone, they still ended up buying custom quads.
The answer is no. This is a drone for rich casuals. Serious pilots would never switch to an underpowered drone that you need to send for every repair after every small crash.
Yeah, and dji cant compete right now with customs... Its realy long way for ppl who fly customs even consider to switch.... Even so dji not trying to compete, this dji made for video production not for racing or freestyling and dji googles perform worse that cheap digital googles in terms of racing and most of freestyle situation's, only good in open spaces, eyecandy dji brings comes with a price real pilots dont want to pay. I see its good for ppl who want to begin fpv and have loads of money, but all the footage you see of regular fov, you cant do that with dji, so ppl probably will switch to customs in the end.
Lmao that title. This quad brings some new tech / design but I really do think this will affect people wow are into custom drones. It's not a real race quad it's fast but it's not race quad fast
From an insider perspective, I understand the need for user-replaceable/serviceable design but in todays world most people don't want to pay for a larger/bulkier/more expensive product if it means 1-5% of those people can take it all apart and repair it. In this case, the device may not even fly it it's loaded with easy to replace components due to increase in mass/size.
This just doesn't apply to fpv drones, most self built quads are actually more compact, sturdier and fly better thanks to carbon fiber frames. This is a region like Desktop Computers, where building your own gets you a system that is actually quite a bit better than a similarily priced prebuilt.
On the contrary.. DJI just opened the gates for people to be interested in the custom drone market. A lot of people have no interest in assembling drones and as a result, will never experience FPV. DJI just welcomed every new comer to try it.
And I am one of the those. Lol
That's literally why there are "RTF" or "BNF" (ready-to-fly/bind-and-fly) prebuilt FPV quads. They're sold by all major drone part manufacturers, iFlight, Armattan, Catalyst Machineworks, Eachine, etc. They come prebuilt, no assembly required, you just choose the receiver option that matches your own radio controller for BNF, or just buy the RTF and get one included. DJI didn't open the gates here, they just brought their fans along in a curated tour bus. Will more people get to experience the joy of FPV flight? Yes, and that's great, but will they stay?
“Everyone”
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@@syntaera yes RTF or BNF require almost no assembly but the problem is that they are still built quads. I think, It's like built pc's and MAC. You can order a built pc and plug it right away. However, still it won't be like a MAC. MAC is even simpler and if something is wrong you directly go to the customer services and they fix it. The thing that i try to say is that "DJI FPV DRONE" is way easier to get, fly and if something goes wrong, you directly go to the DJI customer service. However, upgrading it is a lot harder than RTF and BNF
I'd never taken any interest in flying drones, this morning I ordered a DJI FPV :)
Please don't spare me any of the details, that's why I'm here.
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wtf kind of replies are these, have nothing to do with your comment heh
but yeah, i was a bit sad when they glossed over the geometry and placements of the flight boards, would have loved to see a better breakdown of an arm replacement too. iFixit, don't hesitate to bring out a soldering iron to show a major replacement like an arm
@@xymaryai8283 you don’t Need an iFixit soldering iron - every soldering iron gets hot and that’s all it has to do
It might seem like it’s a Great entry to the FPV Market, but it isn’t. If you want to do any tricks you Crash and plastic parts are just not as unbreakable as 4or 5mm carbon fiber. The parts of regular quads are designed to survive a LOT of crashes. DJI Fpvs Quad Break waaaaayyyyy more often
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It can't kill "the custom drone market" especially in performance, or compared to the convenience of 3 inch micros
That's true my friend. Just like no matter how good a Mac is still it can't kill the PC market as well.
Gonna be really hard to compete with components cheaper than the replacement props for a DJI
Dji comes with a package of issues related to racing and frystyle, as for today noone will race or do acrobatics with dji for sure... its good if you shooting a video but regular old school fpv does the job to, amd for cheaper... Anyways even dji googles is not fiting this marked sice latency... Well if you want to crash your drone on high speeds and tight corners, go ahead....
Dji won’t take me over purely because I crash enough that I’d be dumbing money in to it. My 5 inch can just tank it. I do want their digital system though
@@Nilloc777 yes so true I only run a iflight dc5 6s it’s been though the wars had a few front legs replaced but it’s a greet freestyle rig and works ok as a bando basher, got the dji fpv and it’s destroyed when a sensor error warning came up and it cut out falling about 20m onto grass and it’s ruined total rubbish hallow plastic legs and exposed camera gimbal is no good for this sport
Incorrect statement: "very particular compatibility" with regards to custom built quads. The truth is you can build with any parts you want!
Yeah, can we have lower sounding music next video thanks :)
It's always better to not have any background music than have background music which is too loud.
I vote for leaving the background music out all together. The background music made it hard to understand what the presenter was saying in this otherwise fantastic video.
Increasing the amount of puppy dog would also be good.
I disagree with you saying FPV drones usually have limited compatability. The opposite is true, I love being able to replace almost any part with a different similar one if I can’t find the original
But that is absolutely peanuts compared to typical fpv drones. Can you switch the motors on your mavic and phantom? On fpv drones there are like 7 parts needed to assemble a quad (frame, fc, esc, camera, vtx, motors, props) and you can mix and match almost every part together. There is a standard for everything, and even competing companies still make parts that can work together. Where as dji have gone out of their way to make their products impossible to modify
@@Bean-Time I am super confused who you are arguing with. Read my comment again.
@@isaaclanier1507 I thought you said DJI FPV
@@Bean-Time no I was arguing against how they stated that normal FPV drones have limited compatability. And how you can replace almost anything with anything else if you know what you’re doing. DJI made a lot of good choices with this drone, but I am still sticking with my homemade ones
@@isaaclanier1507 well.. you CAN put 30000kv motors on a 6s.
I was here to see the how the arms came off as well as the legs and the circuitry therein.
The dog is so exited!!😂😁😃
Nice vid but the background music is waaay too high in the mix.
Yes.
Too much background music and not enough puppy dog.
The thing about it is, it isn't really an FPV drone. Sure, it can be an FPV drone, but it's more of its own thing half way between a camera drone and an FPV drone. It's honestly best when flown in Sport mode with all its sensors and computers working to assist the pilot in some fun, but not too challenging flying and to capture some cool shots. I see it as a method for Mavic pilots to get FPV footage without having to invest time and energy into the real hobby. Of course, it can also be a gateway to the hobby, and I hope DJI eventually sells a gen 2 air unit to work with the combo controller and goggles so that people who want to make the jump to real FPV can do so without having to buy new goggles and controllers.
SHORT ANSWER: NO. the custom market is shifting to performance Sub 250G class in the 80USD-to190USD price range as a bind and fly because of FAA overregulation that will kill this specific Drone. The ADS-B receiver is nice though and we hobbyists are looking at it with envy, but it wont mean we want to buy a prius for the night vision or the heads up display instead of our bare bones Porsche GT home builds that turn on a dime and boost in a heartbeat for less than 1/4 the investment. Does the term "Split S to a power loop though a tree gap to an immelman out at no less than 50% THROTTLE " escape you? then go buy the hybrid Camaro without launch control and AUTONOMOUS garage parking...
This new drone has two main things going for it. One, it is easy to fly. Not many FPV drones can easily hover. Two, the transmitted video image is better than anything else available in this price range. It's better than what you get from their Air Units.
@@ddegn repair costs though, not good. you'll see new people crash and break this 1000$ drone very easily and break a prop arm or two, then pay more than base cost to repair it
@@TropicalCyc "very easily and break a prop arm or two"
Yes if they fly it like a small FPV drone. In normal mode they can cruse around all day (if they have enough batteries) and not crash if they don't do anything wild.
Personally, I'm sure I could repair an arm or two on the thing.
The transmitted video quality on the thing is amazing. It's a better fit for someone wanting to enjoy the view than someone wanting to perform crazy freestyle moves.
The custom fpv guys wont fly this anyways. It's a photography drone that can fly acro and does neither well.
I like the drone cause it might get someone interested, and then they might stumble onto a video guide of how to build your first fpv quad, and make it for a couple hundred instead
just hopefully they do it all right; really don't want to be legislated against
I think this might be an initial version to get much needed feedback from enthusiasts. Once thats done they should release a v2 drone. Like they've improved from the original phantom to a mavic since people wanted much more portability.
even though this is looked at as a POS in most of the real FPV community (you know the people that can ACTUALLY fly a drone) the engineering is amazing.. but that is the problem for what we real pilots do..we need something WE can fix in the field.. $200 for DJI care plus a $200 deductible isn't going to cut it..
Real Pilots ahahahaha...
@@klausg.6186 yeah, ones that know how to fly something besides a robot mocha machine that flies itself.. look up Mr. Steele for example
true but im sure that the DJI breaks much less often than any custom drone
@@oliverhoffman4574 LOL.. yeah because as we know plastic > carbon fiber.. this is why all of our fighter jets are made from thin plastic..
@@oliverhoffman4574 Theres already several videos of DJI FPV breaking its arms in minor crashes. On the other hand you can literally fly a freestyle quad into a wall and most times you just bend the props back and go again.
I am very impressed with the electrical and mechanical design of this system. I would really love to take one apart
I have one of these drones and it's really hard not to take it all apart. Hopefully watching this video will satiate my desire to take it to bits.
One more great video from iFixit. Well done!
I will be very thankful if you send it to me as a gift, thanks :D
I think you meant well drone…
Great video
Cool video.
A lot of people in the custom drone market are pissed about this. When the fact is... FPV is now on the map because of DJI.
Lol they don’t want it on the map
I am excited that some FPV groups might finally form around where I live
Never have anyone else to fly quads with
The FPV Hobby, not custom drone market. And most of us welcome it, but it has to be done right. It could have come in a better form factor, and a stronger/more repairable frame and canopy, because you only learn in FPV by crashing.
they not pissed of, actualy dji is not threat to regular fpv, dji dont try to compete, they make cinema drones, and if you try to fly this dji as fpv always did, you will see that for that its a piece of junk... Its exceeds in video production but not in flying causes its made in mind video production, thats what dji does... And video feed latency from dji googles is unusable in racing or freestyle... Dji brings good inovations and that's welcome. This drone is more like marketing material, ppl see dji fpv, then see regular fpv footage, normaly make expectations that this drone flee even better, but after first crash and more research they will buy regular fpv, more ppl in hobby is better...
The only thing they have tweaked is the DJI care refresh crash price. UP.
I would love to see an under 250g FPV drone from DJI
I’ve crashed and spent many hours looking for my old fpv drones so brought this on launch day but a sensor failure made mine drop uncontrollably mid flight , for one dji wanted an extra £250 on top of the £300 dji care I already paid and second it’s been 3 weeks and still have no idea when I will get it back from the repair . Watse of time I’m back on analog I’ll sell the dji fpv when it’s fixed
Mines dropped out of the sky in manual mode broke to rear legs which i have successfully repaired unfortunately my sensor was damaged I can’t tell if it happened mid flight or it was from the impact damaged. I have no idea why i lost power
"to account for that extra crash" - answer : no, this thing is too brittle.
Is it possible to use the video transmitter standalone connected to a camera?
oi, i happen to get interested in drones and iFixit drops a video the moment i start searching
Yes, because the world revolves around you
He's the main character
It's all for yo bro ;D
Hey guys, we all know the world revolves around @yeungscs but we're not supposed to tell him.
Super video! I applauded for $2.00 👏
Incredible Work 👍
I Think this drone is for videographers that want the FPV cinematic shots but dont have the time to learn, build and master FPV drones, the guys who have DJI care already for the rest of their fleet. for those who want the DJI quality video and already are FPV pilots will use the air units. i wouldnt say DJI are trying to make a freestyle drone for the FPV world rather an FPV drone for the videography world
Do you Think it would be beneficial if somebody designed a carbon fiber aftermarket frame for this?
For short: Yes. (Only carbon) It would increase the durability of the Quad by a lot (depending on how it would be made), as compared to a typical Fpv Quad Frame, this thing is way less durable, and not really ment to being crashable. (Sorry, if this is information which you already knew)
@@geminitheavali5018 thanks
@@wethepeople420 no problem :)
the flight controller would need to be tune-able, or it will freak out.
@@foam27 good point
its like buying a ios iphone, you are locked into its ecosystem = expensive lol
your "soft" anti-soldering policy for repairability is ridiculous, and not grounded in the realities of electrical engineering.
Agreed. The people who want to repair their own electronics likely know how to solder. Adding connectors increases the price, bulk and environmental impact of the item. One of the most common causes of failure in an item are connectors coming loose.
Adding additional connectors adds all sorts of problems while helping the very few people who are capable of repairing electronics who don't know how to solder.
Sorry bud but custom drone market, really. DJI’s fpv drone is a toy. We build machines.
Let's see you design an FC board and populate it. That's building ;D
The trick will be to customize this drone. Put the video system from this drone into a more capable drone and you'd really have something. I think NURK FPV showed an example of someone doing this. I think Drone Dudes used the video system from the DJI FPV and put it on a much larger drone.
Hi,... are you teardown the remote too?...... have broken remote now but worry to check/teardown the remote... :-)
didn't expect of this one .....
Any chance we know what model the camera sensor is?
Do you know if the version2 goggles and controller will work with a smaller drone like the protek25 or similar? I would love to have a small drone to fly around my yard and only use the dji fpv in bigger open areas... wondering how hard it would be to switch back and forth also? Thanks for any help you can give!
I'm pretty sure the controller which comes with this drone can only be used with this drone. The goggles should work with other DJI Air Units but the controller doesn't work with the Air Units.
Can anyone tell me what is the minimum amount of disassembly needed, if I only want to replace the vision sensors module and ribbon cable?
What would make this FPV drone require such a complex processing, what does it do that other HD drones dont do? Besides the obstacle avoidance
This will definitely grow the fPV hobby, because once you have this you will want the real deal fPV foresure! Build Fly Crash Repeat!
Bro, you forgot the fly part. Build fly crash repeat
No, it will result in more regulations as morons who can't fly will think their new robot can't hurt anyone.
@@serang oops!
@@serang you’re telling me you actually fly yours before crashing? Maybe I’m doing something wrong 😑
great job... nice presentation and nice insight.... love it. More please like this new style....
Are you planning on doing a teardown of the controller? I like to see that.
I've taken my controller apart. I've posted photos on my Hackaday IO project page. I use the same user name there.
why does my fpv drone fly uneven leaning towards the left side?
is there any reason why a normal drone couldnt be made to have an 'fpv mode' so you fly w the main camera?
Maybe because those are slow just guessing though. FPV drones is agile
Lag on the visual feedback. Each and every tenth of a second counts to fly fpv without crashing
You can already buy googles for previous DJI drone but I read the FOV is less.
@@TLK22 there is no "previous dji drone" working with these gogles. It's even in the video. V1 version worked only with separate attachemnt to classic fpv drones.
@@iKuro1337 th-cam.com/video/HYX77f7ZKxc/w-d-xo.html
I never said it works with the v2 googles. I said you can buy FPV googles for the previous DJI drone like the M2P.
does the stock controller have a fan?
What do you mean by "stock controller"? The control board of the smaller drone?
Most drones (including the small one at the beginning of this video) don't have fans. They rely on the air from the props and moving through the air to cool the board. Many drone transmitters will overheat if they aren't flying.
yes.
If you mean the controller with the joysticks then no. The controller which stays with the pilot doesn't have a fan inside but it does have a couple big heatsinks. Search my name on Hackday IO for a look inside the controller.
@@ddegn Ah I see I looked you up on Hackday, so the Dji Fpv joystick controller doesn't have a cooling fan but what's weird is that some people have said that they can hear a cooling fan in it..., maybe they confused it with the goggles?
@@tfmg8223 I think you're right, they must be confused by the fan in the goggles. There are a couple metal heatsinks in the controller but no fan.
I came for the puppy
All these features are great, but 10 minutes of flight. It's just not enough.
It’s way too much by fpv standards. You don’t need that much flight time.
Other reviewers are talking about 20 minutes though.
@@tenslider6722 It depends on how they fly. It's about 16 minutes with very tame flying. If they fly faster and do tricks the time is greatly reduced.
There's a guy on the DJI forums who posted a video showing a test down to 0% battery. I think he got 16 minutes flying slowly.
This is not the first time DJI tried to enter the fpv market, but they seem to fail both times to get that fpv is a hobby, and it's too expensive as is, and most wouldn't want to crash a $1200 drone. Besides, you keep saying "beginner friendly", No it's NOT! You know what's beginner friendly? Open source, cheap easley fixable copters with a lot of parts and customizable... This meets NONE of the qualities mentioned above!
"You know what's beginner friendly? Open source, cheap easley fixable copters with a lot of parts and customizable..."
Those things are great but the DJI drone is still beginner friendly. It's super easy to fly. I'm pretty sure these new drones are selling very fast. DJI only allows people to order one. Other sellers are having trouble keeping them in stock. It's kind of hard to call this a failure when they're sell so well.
It's $1200 for the full set. The drone itself is "only" $700. I agree, $700 is crazy expensive for this drone. The whole package isn't too bad though. The transmitted video from this drone is better than any other option I'm aware of.
@@ddegn yeas but minority of who would want to buy actually buying since of a price... Most of beginer can only dream about buying one
@@racistpixel1017 "Most of beginer can only dream about buying one"
Yes when comparing current options. It's still less expensive than when I started getting into RC aircraft. I wanted an aircraft which could hover and take photos so I purchased a RC helicopter. The helicopter and all the gear was crazy expensive. This was about 40 years ago.
I ended up using slow flying RC airplanes to take aerial photographs. Taking aerial photographs with remote controlled aircraft used to be very difficult and very expensive. This DJI is crazy inexpensive compared to the gear 40 years ago.
Of course there are lots of inexpensive options now. It's a fun time to be in this hobby.
@@ddegn cant argue, its a great time to start, there is super Budget solutions with crazy performance, probably even to powerfull for a first aircraft/drone. when i was a child i realy was dreaming of a remote control plane with a camera to see... For me that was a scfi dream back then XD
How does the data pass from the drone to the controller/goggles? The googles have those big antennas so I guess the drone directly communicates with the goggles. Does the controller communicate directly with the drone or does it relay through the more powerful goggle?
It's been a year and iFixIt didn't answer you (LOL) but the drone connects directly to the controller, and the drone connects directly to the goggles as well.
Just a quick one it won't kill it there far to many sizes and styles for fpv. There's not just one size....
lmao this will not kill the custom drone market. A custom drone can crash multiple times without shattering like glass
Yeas and it uses analog video feed that helps not to crash, youtuberis misinform ppl that digital is the way to go, while in reality if you fly like fpv supposed to fly, with digital 100% you crash, no matter how good pilot you are.
if you want a good build racing drone just get a immersion rc one its a bit old now but flys good and is build like we build them are selfs so its easy to repair
Hey! I’m having an issue with my goggles going in and out of a black screen, and a slight blur in the left lens. Any idea what could be the issue here? I have DJI care and reached out about the issue. But perhaps there’s something I could do to fix. Great video!
If you pull the left arm on the propeller back and stroke the blade really fast with some WD40 it should work
Speaking of the title - DJI FPV "Combo" Teardown, where's the disassembly of the controller?
Why didn't you cover the controller?
You and most of the “fpv” folks always miss a huge point here.. home built fpv drones even those built by people who know what they are doing can not land or take off without goggles.. The best part of DJIs drone is its ability to be flown like the photo drones most of its consumers are used too. With a flick of a switch it’s flown just like a camera drone.. no goggles needed. This gives it the ability to be flown anywhere without the safety issues that come with traditional fpv equipment. It’s good for beginners but it’s great for photographers who want that extra footage without all the safety issues and the learning curve that come with traditional fpv homemade equipment.
Can you please show a tear down of the controller? My FIRST time adjusting the sticks and the adjustment screw came out and dropped INSIDE the controller. Now I can’t tune my remote or recover the screw. I haven’t even turned the drone on yet and I’m already set back..
There are four screws holding the controller together. I've uploaded photos of the inside of the controller to my Hackaday IO page. Search my user name to find it.
theres a reason you dont people switching to this quad from a regular quad
It's simply impossible to kill the traditional FPV. because building quads and fixing quads yourself is in PFV community's DNA.
Thanks for sharing!
Well said
But can we replace that BLDC motors with another one which have more power?
You'd also need to replace the ESCs. I don't know if the ESC DJI uses communicates with the control board the same way hobby ESCs communicate.
I plan on investigating this in the future. I'll likely post anything I find on my Hackaday(dot)io page.
@twopaste I would assume DJI used ESCs rated for the motors they used. A more powerful motor would require more power from the ESC.
There could also be a problem with more powerful motors drawing more current from the battery. The battery has internal fuses which are more likely to blow with more powerful motors.
Increasing the power of the drone will likely require more than just changing the motors.
@twopaste Why would DJI put in an ESC with more power than the motors could use? It would be a waste of money to them.
Please can you do a teardown of the batteries for this?
I've taken photos of the insides of one of my batteries. I haven't uploaded the images yet but I plan to in the near future. You should be able to find the images on my Hackday(dot)io page.
The battery was surprisingly easy to take apart.
@@ddegn Thank you, I'll look out for it. I noticed there were two screws right on the outside of the case but it didn't like the case would open with them removed so I was worried it might have been glued as well. I guess it's just a tight fit?
@@yngndrw. The two screws are hold the top long piece of plastic in place. The top piece still has to be pried open from the plastic clips. My battery has a couple marks where I forced the screwdriver in to pry things apart but doesn't look too bad.
There is glue holding thin black plastic to the sides of the batteries. It's not strong glue and as I said before, I was surprised how easy it was to take apart.
DJI's RoboMaster S1's batteries were much harder to take apart.
I loaded the photos onto my computer yesterday. I'll try to upload some to my Hackaday page today.
@@yngndrw. I uploaded some of the photos I took. I saw you're following me on Hackday IO but wanted to make sure you saw the photos.
@@ddegn Thank you I appreciate you uploading those photos. I was surprised to see that it has fuses - 180A of fuses in total. I was hoping to work out if after-market batteries could be used but I've fallen at the first hurdle, the connectors. I suspected that these were 3mm bullet connectors but the springs are on the wrong side. The male bullets fit into the battery but the female connectors are loose on the drone.
Having the pictures so that I can see where the clips are is worth its weight in gold, I should be able to easily disassemble mine without damaging it now.
I wonder how many people would be interested in fpv flying but aren't interested in high speed flying. I would happily take the same latency as traditional phone+controller solutions in combination with something like a Facebook Quest for "just okay" fpv flying without the high speed and super precise control.
Name of intro song please?
我覺得這種甲蟲風格很有特點,支臂好像還能在飛行中起到固定翼的作用,希望能有類似的升級機型。
DJI Avata第一代鏤空外骨骼框架也很好很有特點,我也覺得應該保留和發展。形似骨骼,但是包裹與外,即有利與散熱也有利與減輕重量,是一種很有潛力的框架結構,尤其是未來如果金屬3D打印時代到來這種結構,也有利節省原料。類骨骼型態最適合3D打印,也希望能看到更多的類似產品。
Nice interesting video !!!
Another note, you are the third reviewer who has stated that digital has longer range then analog. This is simply and entirely untrue. Analog has an immense advantage over digital in terms of range. DJI has the range marked at around 4km. A good analog setup could easier go 20km plus.
but you cant argue the picture quality, and in the end isn't that important for the experience/realism?
@@foam27 No you are correct I cannot argue the picture quality. But all in the same I’d much rather just buy the goggles and a DJI fpv unit and use that. You get the best of everything, the performance and repair ability of homemade drones, and the picture quality of DJI. I don’t do super long range so the range is a non issue to me, I just wanted to clarify for those watching that some things he said were invalid.
@@isaaclanier1507 I think you are correct about the range issue but not about the picture quality.
The transmitted video from the new FPV drone is superior than the quality transmitted from an Air Unit. NURK FPV made a video about this new drone and commented about the superior video quality over his other DJI goggle experience.
Before seeing NURK's video, I had assumed the video quality would be similar to an Air unit. NURK's video convinced me I wanted this new drone because of the improved transmitted video.
@@ddegn Ok yes sorry it is improved, I guess what I’m saying is for me at least, it isn’t enough to warrant going DJI and losing flexibility and repair ability rather then just building my own and using an Air unit. The Air unit is so good as it is that quite frankly I don’t feel the need for the better video
@@isaaclanier1507 There a plenty of legitimate reasons not to get this drone. I was considering getting DJI googles and a few Air Units for a long time. This thing come out and it apparently has even better video. As an added bonus it will easily hover. My other analog FPV quads are really hard to fly and nearly impossible to hover. I really like being able to hover as I fly FPV and I really like this new drone.
If I had an Air Unit with Goggles I'm sure I would have liked that and I would likely not have purchased the new drone.
It's great there's more options.
If someone held his hands down, this kid would not be able to talk at all.
they should make a flight controller that works with their software that would support open frames ;)
Aren't these drones gonna get a forced update to comply with new faa rules? What a diy fpv drone (if that exists)
please lower the music
nah, people who do it as a hobby will continue to do it as a hobby, because it is a hobby. Just because prebuilt computers exist doesn't mean nobody can build their own.
Lol, those red topsky goggles you had on the table @ 5:46 are the biggest pile of garbage. It's just for looks guys - please no one buy those :D Not a bad tear down - we just need a carbon frame to transplant this all too :D
Don't you have to re-tune the FC as well?
Who doesn't have a soldering iron?
The propellers are in the frame. That sucks
This will be pretty interesting
Cool/helpful vid but idk if they like people flying drones around bishops lol
Bishops?
I've got the tools, and I've got a 3d printer. I'm good with the repairs ;)
heh , just buy real Fpv than
Same here. Just got to wait for parts to show up on eBay
@@nistax2880 I can't build that FC, and have no experience in FPV. Only Mavics :(
@@foam27 you don't have to build an fc , fcs are prebuild
then just buy regular FPV drones lol
I know this is unrelated about repairing the dji fpv, but I don't like how the props are able to be seen in the image.
Many of us don’t lack the ability or financial resources to purchase and fly diy FPV drones. We realize that we have minimal tine for a hobby that does not generate income. Simulator to purchasing an Audi R8 instead of building our own car.
Short answer: no, the DJI FPV drone has less power and flies way more sloppy than cutom built FPV drones. Also there's no modularity like for custom ones, where you have endless options for the combinations of parts. Also, fixing a custom drone only costs a few bucks and maybe an hour of your time, compared to DJI FPV where you pay a fortune to send it in and let DJI fix it themselves.
No the dji fpv drone isn't going to kill the custom drone market, in fact out of the 4 friends I know that bought the dji fov drone, they still ended up buying custom quads.
Is it true that DJI has stopped manufacturing the drone itself and will be using a 3rd party but will continue to sell the goggles and controller?
no I'm pretty sure it was just the air unit camera (which is for the custom market not this drone)
2:01 *radio reciever
The answer is no. This is a drone for rich casuals. Serious pilots would never switch to an underpowered drone that you need to send for every repair after every small crash.
googles and video feed latency for racing and freestyle is just awfully, noone do that, good video quality bud bad everything else
what thermal paste are they using ? toothpaste? lmao
Wait till DJI releases the FPV 2. That will really kill the custom market.
Yeah, and dji cant compete right now with customs... Its realy long way for ppl who fly customs even consider to switch.... Even so dji not trying to compete, this dji made for video production not for racing or freestyling and dji googles perform worse that cheap digital googles in terms of racing and most of freestyle situation's, only good in open spaces, eyecandy dji brings comes with a price real pilots dont want to pay. I see its good for ppl who want to begin fpv and have loads of money, but all the footage you see of regular fov, you cant do that with dji, so ppl probably will switch to customs in the end.
it is so distorted at the edge bruh
You can turn on distortion correction.
I was like.... this guy is good... then he has 800k subs lol
They should really sell all parts cheaply
Well, at least all parts...
I have some parts on my site check it out
Sorry, will build a quad or stick to camera drones.
No. The digital fpv is the only thing which is close
The guts are like an Iphone.
production department: how much thermal paste do you want on there?
engineering department: YES
Never!!
Nice DJI you will make spend my Stimulus Check 🤣😂😂🤣🤣
Lmao that title. This quad brings some new tech / design but I really do think this will affect people wow are into custom drones. It's not a real race quad it's fast but it's not race quad fast
From an insider perspective, I understand the need for user-replaceable/serviceable design but in todays world most people don't want to pay for a larger/bulkier/more expensive product if it means 1-5% of those people can take it all apart and repair it. In this case, the device may not even fly it it's loaded with easy to replace components due to increase in mass/size.
This just doesn't apply to fpv drones, most self built quads are actually more compact, sturdier and fly better thanks to carbon fiber frames. This is a region like Desktop Computers, where building your own gets you a system that is actually quite a bit better than a similarily priced prebuilt.
the flight time is up to 20min