@Mr. Poopybutthole do you feel better now ? I wrote that comment 5 years ago when I was beginning to get into cars. Have you been bullied by someone that smokes blunts ? Is everything okay in your home life ?
I have a 08 GT 3V ! FULL BOLT ON except for the ford intake manifold. But I have 3.73 gears,CAI,62mm Throttle Body,Pulleys,Hot Rod Cams & 93 Oct Tune & I made 344 To The Wheels !!! :D
I added these cams to my GT '10 Love them!!! Set idle to 800, sounds beast at the stoplight! Only problem is when starting engine cold start, sometimes it stalls due to the exhaust pattern from the camshafts.
Who gives a rats ass what it sounds like any gains. My stock exhaust sounds amazing people comment how awesome it sounds. Performance the HP gains for the price sucks , might get a 12 horse bump maybe ?????
@@squad-wh4ig They give a nice lope with a drastic duration. But as we use to say Listen to that car Go..... Yawn 🥱 Exhaust with Headers are great noise makers but you can pick up some serious power as well. Breathe baby breathe.
the problem with this upgrade is that you guys should of put long tube headers, a larger TB, and heads to match the cam upgrade. Then we probably would have seen a significant power increase. All an engine is is a giant vacuum pump. It sucks air in and pushes air out. You still have restrictions/bottlenecks now without proper air induction and exhaust flow. Just saying. awesome video either way. 😊
I put ford hot rod cams ford racing manifold, K and N cold air, granitelli TB and Rousch extreme cat back and bama tunes......now the engine powers through the traction lock and smokes the tires. The Rousch exhaust has no mufflers... I would like to do cat deletes or more efficient cats and headers........ but it costs lots of $$$$$$$ I think I think am pushing 400hp at the rear wheels..........i could be wrong though.,
@@superdutyzack a fbo cammed 3v can easily do 340-350 rwhp ecspecially with an intake manifold upgrade. 400 rwhp no but with a good heads cam and intake package you can get close to that depending on the setup. Fbo 3v I've seen as high as 320-330 rwhp. Depends on the setup and the dyno of course.
@@Axel.3v I get you I just need that kick in the seat for the money. So many people are impressed with sound yeah it sounds good. My buddy and I when we were teenagers would say wow listen to that car go. You could clock it with a sun dial.
Nice!! Great video!! On my '05 GT just the sound alone was worth the cam swap!! Bonus are the midrange and top end gains for the "seat dyno"... :-) (cams only)
5000 dollars later you have 315 hp. spend that 5 grand on a supercharger and drive away with 420+hp, throw a set of axelbacks on it and be done with her.
RLMUD probably more around $3200.. intake manifold $620 TB $200-$300 CAI $250-350 cams $720 phaser limiters $200... also this is an auto would have seen bigger numbers in an automatic.. still had doctors headers/exhaust.. with longtubes it would be right around 365-380 depending the tune altitude and if you have AC and UDP long tubes will put you at $4000... plus not everyone wants to go F/I some people like all motor power or like to add power over a couple years
well you normally need to do aftermarket mods to the engine anyways to handle that jump in power without running into problems into the future. To my knowledge at least. If i'm wrong educate me not insult.
My son has an 08 mustang and we are doing mods a few months at a time. So far he has spent $1200. But that was a on the cold air intake and throttle body. He just wants to have the power from 0-60. Anything else yes you would probably spend $4-$5 thousand.
Those numbers are super low. I have placed stock GT's on the dyno and gotten 275+ at the wheels. I've also talked to Ford Engineers and they state don't install the intake unless your going with a forced induction setup. A standard axleback and intake with a 700.00 tune would get you 15-25HP and all under 1,500.
They should have over laid the first dyno chart with the second. Peak numbers are up but there is a cost for that at the mid range. Id keep the stock intake with the charge motion valves and cam install.
Also, if you upgrade your stock torque converter you will make more power. Anything over 300whp the stock converter has a hard time translating that to the ground.
Landan... Man... You're gonna have to start pushing those cool LRS t-shirts out to us! My blue one is getting used to much. Id buy one... or five. Gotta rep LRS! On another note... I'm really digging these new videos, with both the product review and the install.
Just as an FYI, that valve spring compressor he uses is only compatible with the 3V engine. I picked up two different universal compressors and none of them fit.
Lmao no. It isn’t a diesel. It’s been proven stock TB works best for n/a on the 3v. And the injectors aren’t even maxed until you add a 150 shot of nitrous on these cars. Ignorant comment
Take Note: No one explains this::: The Cams are different lengths... The right bank cam ( Passenger side ) is 1/2 " Shorter than the left bank ( Drivers side ).. I did my cams one at a time and installed them wrong. So a Brand new cam phaser later I did both cams at the same time and that's when I noticed it.
@@Soma-7662 mmm that is the reason bro lol, ok thanks for yor instagram i dont have one yet, but i´ll create an account and add you, i have a gt 05 with tune and exhaust only lol, but i really prefer buy a 5.0 2014 and then puttin the full bold ons. i´m from Monterrey México, like 4 hours to arrive to San Antonio Tx , might be going to SA Tx to get some pieces bro, when COVID pass away ...
Why you remove first rocker arms and after that camshaft. Some fellas remove the camshaft and after that they changed all rocker arms. I am asking you because I will do the same procedure. I will change my lifters and rocker arms with phasers
The process in this video is referring to a camshaft change not a complete lash adjuster and roller follower change. This process is what Ford instructs in the shop manual for servicing the camshafts. The procedure shown can be used to service the lash adjusters and roller followers. The followers and lash adjusters can be replaced whenever the camshaft is removed. -Landan
I’ve seen so many other videos where people don’t remove the followers for a camshaft install, whether it’s this brand of cam or another one. Is that step really necessary? People who have skipped it seem to have had no issues.
We recommend taking them off to make the install easier. When it comes to skipping that step, it is up to the installer to research before hand when performing everything.
Tom Boyle Yes, you will see more power with long tubes. This car already has a BBK 62mm throttle body, so upgrading to a Ford Racing throttle body wouldn't benefit it any. -Landan
***** I heard with bigger cams the stock 3.55 gears need to be replaced with 3.73 or higher, or the drive quality is bad and the car will buck or stall out is this true?
@@Balrog124 I know your comment is really old now, but I just wanted to chime in and say that I have these cams in my car with the stock 3.55 gearing and it didn’t lose any driveablity. It is a bit different but not by enough to where 3.73s would be needed
+Biggbulls799 I would HIGHLY recommend removal of any followers that are compressed by the camshaft. Failure to do so can result in engine and/or valve train damage. -Landan
Hi Talin, that would be a different procedure if you do not use the valve spring compressor. We recommend the procedure used on the video as we show. Feel free to give us a call at 1-866-507-3786 if you have any other questions or concerns and we'll be more than happy to help!
+Jed Knouse One of our employees had a built 3v a few years ago with Ford Racing ported heads, Stage 2 N/A Comp Cams, and a 10:1 compression ratio which put down 396HP. I know this kind of differs from the video, but there is an idea on what power can be made out of a 3v with a good setup. -Landan
CAN THIS SETUP WORK WITH FULL LENGTH HEADERS USING STOCK 5SPD. MANUAL TRANNY? IT SHOULD SOUND BETTER AND MORE MIDRANGE POWER. ALSO I PREFER THE ROUSH EXTREME AXLEBACK EXHAUST SOUND AND LOOKS OR BORLA ATAK AXLEBACK SYSTEM. THE CAMS ARE FROM FORD RACING AND THAT'S A PLUS FOR THE '05 - 2010 4.6L 3V THAT HAS AN AWESOME SOUND UNIQUE TO MUSTANGS.
The cams with long tubes and stock intake would have made a way better power curve except up top past 6200 rpm. Unless youre driving at WOT in 35 MPH zones lol 😂 go for it . Otherwise you lose a ton of low and mid range torque. The FP intake is not good for a daily
Unfortunately, we can't answer that question. There are way too many variables involved to say yes or no. If you do decide to upgrade cams, I would recommend upgrading the valve springs at the same time. -Landan
If anyone can answer this, I would appreciate it greatly. I have a 05 Mustang GT with 38k miles and I'm hoping to replace only the cams. The car has been taken care of for those 17 years, but I'm not sure if it is a good idea to replace the springs/the entire valves in general. Do you think the hot rod cams will be fine with the 17 yr old OEM valves?
Late Model Restoration hey man ...iv installed stage 2 comp cams on my 2003 mustang gt ...the problem i have is that the cams sound really low ...it dose not have that rough idle noisy sound ...although its a 495 lift ! Would you please help me figure this out ?
If the phaser and timing chain do not move, camshaft orientation does not matter. The camshaft will align with the keyway on the phaser. If they are moved, you'll have to pull the timing cover and retime the engine. -Landan
That's not that good to be honest and I'm a mustang fan but my G37S (3.7) with Stillen Gen3 intakes and tune made 312 and mind you I didn't crack open the motor yet
Yes 312hp is great but not when you make no torque. Vq engines are known to have terrible torque outputs. This car made 318lbft of torque while your 312hp g37 probably only made 270lbft of torque.
@@gblikesnikes I have an 05 gto which is the same power train as your c6 as well as a pro charged 350z. You are correct in saying This is not good for the money I’m just saying your g37 comparison was not a fair one since you didn’t mention and weren’t considering torque numbers.
Can yall dyno my car lol and tune it hasn't been tuned or dynoed since changing alot of things on it it does have the tune for the cams but I feel that I can get more out if it than I am currently I live 30 mins from late model lol if yall can let me know the price
David - I have personally installed these cams into a 4.6L 3-valve Mustang and 5.4L 3-valve F-150. Seems to me that they would work in a 4.6L 3V Explorer. Unfortunately, I don't have a definitive answer for you. Hope this helps! -Landan
Late Model Restoration I installed the FRPP Hot Rod Cams and the Black Laser Etched Ford Racing Valve Covers in my 2010 Ford Explorer Sport Trac Adrenalin 4.6 3v, along with equal length shorty Headers a full true custom Dual exhaust with an x pipe, and Dual 2008 GT 500 mufflers, looks and sounds awesome, and looks like it came from the factory with the duals out the back
+Juan Beltran Manuals usually experience ~15% drivetrain loss, Autos, closer to 20%. These figures can be improved by cutting out rotational mass in drivetrain components, ie: lightweight driveshaft, lighter internals and rotating assembly, lighter flywheels... even lighter wheels can help get that power to the ground. The less your engine needs to work to move all these things, the more power is available to put to the ground and move you forward.
Wow, looking at the before and after dyno curves, this combo is crap. It is down 25-35HP all the way to 4500 RPM, where it is equal and then the new cams take off. What's worse is that torque is down by 50ft/lbs at 2500 and picks up 9ft/lbs at 4800rpm. These cams may sound good, but performance wise this combo is a net loss. It's hard to tell if the intake or cams are responsible, because the CMCV is designed to help low RPM performance. I'd say that intake is probably too much for stock heads and you'd be better off with the stock manifold -- you are losing a lot of velocity down low, just look at the stock torque curve, it's flat from 2k to 3k and rises 35ft/lbs to peak. The cams increase the peak values by 500RPM, but the manifold seems to kill performance down low.
+eformance It's the intake. The Ford Racing intake looks cool but sucks unless you're spinning the engine to 7000 RPM. I saw a test online where they took a car with big cams and ported heads and put the Ford Racing intake on it, it lost a bunch of power down low and only made 10 more hp way up in the RPM range.
just take the day off. expect to be in the garage for quite a while. these things never go as planned and you always lose a bolt or two and end up spending 30 minutes looking for the damn thing. or other little mishaps may happen. so its best to just give it a day in the garage. now if you have someone helping you that knows that they are doing id say a couple hours.
haterget1nb3ast yes a manual transmission has less drivetrain loss than an automatic because there is less components in a manual transmission to get the crank hp/torque to the rear wheels
@@denniss4951 till my auto schools all over any manual in its class, gotta Ratchet shifter with shift kit and 3:7 gear full built forged internals hot rod cam N/A 11.31 @ 126 making close to 500 to the wheel
+joseph ojea It's Ford's internal nickname for this generation of Mustang. The nicknames loosely reference the chassis and drivetrain setup. For example: 1979-1993: "Fox", 1994-1998: "SN95", 1999-2004: still SN95, but received the new nickname "New Edge" because of the redesigned panels ("New Edge" wasn't an official Ford nickname), 2005-2014: "S197", and 2015-Present: "S550".
This is very disappointing. Together all these cost money and there is no "bang" for your buck with this setup. I have no idea which direction to go for my auto S197.
+Roberto Williams id just go with a coyote engine and slam that into the engine bay. It pushes 420hp stock and its a brand new engine! Only problem is youll have to rebuild most of the drivetrain because of all the power. Good luck!
Christian Wartluft That's not a bad idea at all and one to actually consider. I was just hoping I could do full length exhaust, CAI with tune, camshafts, and throw on a supercharger & see some well respected power.
+Roberto Williams well with all those mods and if you pay someone to put them on, youll be spending roughly the same amount as you would with a brand new engine but with the engine its guaranteed power. Plus, making power on the 5.0 4v is easier than the stock 4.6. Theres much more potential to build a race car out of the Coyote.
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This is why i think that mechanics that can do everything on a car are the smartest people ever
@Mr. Poopybutthole do you feel better now ? I wrote that comment 5 years ago when I was beginning to get into cars. Have you been bullied by someone that smokes blunts ? Is everything okay in your home life ?
@Mr. Poopybutthole ?
@@MrCreepermax16 didnt have to do him like that
very much an underpaid profession
@RojekJ
I have a 08 GT 3V ! FULL BOLT ON except for the ford intake manifold.
But I have 3.73 gears,CAI,62mm Throttle Body,Pulleys,Hot Rod Cams & 93 Oct Tune & I made 344 To The Wheels !!! :D
@Richard Skipper lmao sure man
AX7 Duran Are you on a Bama tune or a custom tune? Thats pretty decent gains over stock!
yep thats a i´m said in the above comment, you need more mods to get more power if not you are have a really minimal gains.
@@_zach Custom TUNE
@@17456spartan its true with fbo and cams they make 400 to the crank and around 340 to the wheels
I put the cams, cmcv deletes, intake, tune, throttle body, underdrive pulleys, hurst shifter on my 07 gt what a difference!!
I added these cams to my GT '10 Love them!!! Set idle to 800, sounds beast at the stoplight! Only problem is when starting engine cold start, sometimes it stalls due to the exhaust pattern from the camshafts.
Who gives a rats ass what it sounds like any gains. My stock exhaust sounds amazing people comment how awesome it sounds. Performance the HP gains for the price sucks , might get a 12 horse bump maybe ?????
@@nickhammer6408 mmmmm kay
@@galagoz7401 All I am saying how about some Bang for the Buck.
@@nickhammer6408 sorry cams sound better no matter how you look at it tbh
@@squad-wh4ig They give a nice lope with a drastic duration. But as we use to say Listen to that car Go..... Yawn 🥱 Exhaust with Headers are great noise makers but you can pick up some serious power as well. Breathe baby breathe.
the problem with this upgrade is that you guys should of put long tube headers, a larger TB, and heads to match the cam upgrade. Then we probably would have seen a significant power increase. All an engine is is a giant vacuum pump. It sucks air in and pushes air out. You still have restrictions/bottlenecks now without proper air induction and exhaust flow. Just saying. awesome video either way. 😊
JustStop Don't had to look too far to see this. came are deff gonna come alive with supporting airflow mods
I put ford hot rod cams ford racing manifold, K and N cold air, granitelli TB and Rousch extreme cat back and bama tunes......now the engine powers through the traction lock and smokes the tires. The Rousch exhaust has no mufflers... I would like to do cat deletes or more efficient cats and headers........ but it costs lots of $$$$$$$ I think I think am pushing 400hp at the rear wheels..........i could be wrong though.,
joe elliott sadly you are probably a little over 300whp. Those mods all together are probably good for a max gain of 50hp at the crank.
It has the twin 62mm bbk throttlebody already... bbk throttlebody can be identified by those 5 lines on the top of the throttlebody
@@superdutyzack a fbo cammed 3v can easily do 340-350 rwhp ecspecially with an intake manifold upgrade. 400 rwhp no but with a good heads cam and intake package you can get close to that depending on the setup. Fbo 3v I've seen as high as 320-330 rwhp. Depends on the setup and the dyno of course.
I love my hot rod cams and intake manifold, really set a foundation for a supercharger
Man that engine compartment looks awesome with the upgrades!!!!! 👍
All show No Go. Spend 3000 + bucks for 34 HP 😂🤣😅😆😂🤣
@@nickhammer6408shits sad but I mean makes us happy lmao
@@Axel.3v I get you I just need that kick in the seat for the money. So many people are impressed with sound yeah it sounds good. My buddy and I when we were teenagers would say wow listen to that car go. You could clock it with a sun dial.
@@nickhammer6408 Your a FOOL it COSTS $ to go fast how much $ do you have How fast do you want to go!!
Nice!! Great video!! On my '05 GT just the sound alone was worth the cam swap!! Bonus are the midrange and top end gains for the "seat dyno"... :-) (cams only)
So these are Ford Spec parts? Appealing to me because it's keeping it all Ford. Now if I can do it to my Crown Vic Interceptor I'd be in business.
damn my 06GT made 320 with cai,off-road x,magnaflow catback and custom tune with 3.73 gears
Probably on a mustang dyno
@@mikestoms4015 No thats about right!
color is amazing. love it
Sounds like the engine has a "flat" spot when on the dyno at 11:09- 11:10... Just listen
5000 dollars later you have 315 hp.
spend that 5 grand on a supercharger and drive away with 420+hp, throw a set of axelbacks on it and be done with her.
RLMUD probably more around $3200.. intake manifold $620 TB $200-$300 CAI $250-350 cams $720 phaser limiters $200... also this is an auto would have seen bigger numbers in an automatic.. still had doctors headers/exhaust.. with longtubes it would be right around 365-380 depending the tune altitude and if you have AC and UDP long tubes will put you at $4000... plus not everyone wants to go F/I some people like all motor power or like to add power over a couple years
well you normally need to do aftermarket mods to the engine anyways to handle that jump in power without running into problems into the future. To my knowledge at least. If i'm wrong educate me not insult.
My son has an 08 mustang and we are doing mods a few months at a time. So far he has spent $1200. But that was a on the cold air intake and throttle body. He just wants to have the power from 0-60. Anything else yes you would probably spend $4-$5 thousand.
It isn't nearly $5000. It's a mod that is about personal preference.
I love that idle.
Well made video. Good insight into how this job might go, lots of good info. 👍
Those numbers are super low. I have placed stock GT's on the dyno and gotten 275+ at the wheels. I've also talked to Ford Engineers and they state don't install the intake unless your going with a forced induction setup.
A standard axleback and intake with a 700.00 tune would get you 15-25HP and all under 1,500.
Who's paying $700 for a tune
busared06 exactly lmao
@@busared06 depends on where you live, up north some charge up to 800 for a dyno tune
They should have over laid the first dyno chart with the second. Peak numbers are up but there is a cost for that at the mid range. Id keep the stock intake with the charge motion valves and cam install.
30 hp and 9 torque.....is that even noticeable
Yes, there was a noticeable difference! Especially the power the car gained at the tail end of the power band. -Landan
stock_ _c5 noticeable in the wallet
Late Model Restoration how much better would a manual have done? Also long tubes instead of the shorty this car has? How much low end do you lose?
Yeah 30 hp is alot when ur talking numbers on the low end of hp 30 is a big dif
Hardly...
Also, if you upgrade your stock torque converter you will make more power. Anything over 300whp the stock converter has a hard time translating that to the ground.
nobody has an auto in their 3 valve
@@sinistersilverado965I do
Add the Ford performace cyl. Heads with cams and intake and valve covers and long tube headers good catback 3.55 gears lots of fun makes mid 300's hp
Frpp intake kills power low and mid range it's a mistake to put this intake without boost or very high rpm applications
Landan... Man... You're gonna have to start pushing those cool LRS t-shirts out to us! My blue one is getting used to much. Id buy one... or five. Gotta rep LRS! On another note... I'm really digging these new videos, with both the product review and the install.
Just as an FYI, that valve spring compressor he uses is only compatible with the 3V engine. I picked up two different universal compressors and none of them fit.
Needed to put bigger throttle body on as well. That one is starving the car. Also upgrade the injectors. That would show much better gains
Lmao no. It isn’t a diesel. It’s been proven stock TB works best for n/a on the 3v. And the injectors aren’t even maxed until you add a 150 shot of nitrous on these cars. Ignorant comment
Why would injectors need to be upgraded?
Just wanted to see the Ford vs Chevy comments....wasn't disappointed.
Take Note: No one explains this::: The Cams are different lengths... The right bank cam ( Passenger side ) is 1/2 " Shorter than the left bank ( Drivers side ).. I did my cams one at a time and installed them wrong. So a Brand new cam phaser later I did both cams at the same time and that's when I noticed it.
I don't even have a timing mark on my balancer for my 06 GT and it's the stock balancer
I got 343 hp and 330 tq with stock cams 😒😒😒
lol yep it ´s a lost of money only
@@alexvillarreal3947 I have thrown comp Cams into the mix... 368whp 344 rwtq 😁. It's a joy after beating LS 2 and 6.1 hemi 😁😁
@@Soma-7662 which further mods do you have on it?
@@alexvillarreal3947
JLT intake
62mm Throttle FR
FR manifold
BBK fuel rail
Blox fuel pump
Pacesetter LT headers
3.73 gears
Borla Axleback
Cat delete
Upgraded suspension
SPEC Clutch assembly
Also 150 shot nox but only in rare occasions (ex. Hell cat, Shelby)
If you have Instagram @soma.7662
@@Soma-7662 mmm that is the reason bro lol, ok thanks for yor instagram i dont have one yet, but i´ll create an account and add you, i have a gt 05 with tune and exhaust only lol, but i really prefer buy a 5.0 2014 and then puttin the full bold ons.
i´m from Monterrey México, like 4 hours to arrive to San Antonio Tx , might be going to SA Tx to get some pieces bro, when COVID pass away ...
@Late Model Restoraqtion.. I have a 2008 mustang Bullitt with these and bbk short headers and bbk h pipe is this ok
Why you remove first rocker arms and after that camshaft. Some fellas remove the camshaft and after that they changed all rocker arms. I am asking you because I will do the same procedure. I will change my lifters and rocker arms with phasers
The process in this video is referring to a camshaft change not a complete lash adjuster and roller follower change. This process is what Ford instructs in the shop manual for servicing the camshafts. The procedure shown can be used to service the lash adjusters and roller followers. The followers and lash adjusters can be replaced whenever the camshaft is removed. -Landan
If youre going thru all of that why not install new hi flow fuel rails?
why did brenspeed make more with a similar setup
1991tommygun BRSPD has a much better setup, cam & tune wise.
I took mine to Brenspeed Indiana. They did a great job
The low numbers are more than likely do to the shorty headers vs not having long tubes. I’ve seen very similar set ups making 350+ whp
Plus it is an auto. Most of the ones you see ar 350+ are manuals the auto sucks more power.
+late model restoration is the install close to the same for the 4.6 2 valve motors ?
How’s this intake compared to the 08-09 Bullitt intakes? I know the Bullitt S197 made 15 more hp over the normal GT.
Please give our tech team a call at 866-507-3786.
I’ve seen so many other videos where people don’t remove the followers for a camshaft install, whether it’s this brand of cam or another one. Is that step really necessary? People who have skipped it seem to have had no issues.
We recommend taking them off to make the install easier. When it comes to skipping that step, it is up to the installer to research before hand when performing everything.
sounds amazing
i love the sound of the hotrod cams.
Is it possible to ship it to The Netherlands?
yeah uh..don't spray brake cleaner directly into the oil supply, especially over the chain guides. spray the rag and clean the area as required. easy
With longtubes and the Ford Racing throttle body could you expect a lot more out of these cams?
Tom Boyle Yes, you will see more power with long tubes. This car already has a BBK 62mm throttle body, so upgrading to a Ford Racing throttle body wouldn't benefit it any. -Landan
***** I heard with bigger cams the stock 3.55 gears need to be replaced with 3.73 or higher, or the drive quality is bad and the car will buck or stall out is this true?
@@Balrog124 I know your comment is really old now, but I just wanted to chime in and say that I have these cams in my car with the stock 3.55 gearing and it didn’t lose any driveablity. It is a bit different but not by enough to where 3.73s would be needed
Do not run a ford performance intake N/A it kill power due to them deleting the charge motion control plates
What if I install the cams without removing the followers? Do I still have to position the crank pulley at one o' clock?
I've have heard that the ford racing intake used with the wrong mods or even no mods can lose power not gain! Is there any truth to this?
it is true bro, i ´va heard same thing.
standard shift v8 is better then automatic transmission hands down .. better sound also
Is the fuel pump disconnected so the injectors dont spit gas when taken off?
The fuel pump driver module is disconnected to relieve fuel pressure prior to disassembly. -Landan
Why didn't they make these for the 5.0's?
Can I use that upper intake in a 97 gran marquis
I feel bad for all those 2010 owners. New looks with the old engine.
is it absolutely necisary to remove the cam followers or is it just for ease of install when installing the new cam?
+Biggbulls799 I would HIGHLY recommend removal of any followers that are compressed by the camshaft. Failure to do so can result in engine and/or valve train damage. -Landan
Are you supposed to use the same crankshaft positions that you used if you arent using a valve spring compressor and not removing the followers?
Hi Talin, that would be a different procedure if you do not use the valve spring compressor. We recommend the procedure used on the video as we show. Feel free to give us a call at 1-866-507-3786 if you have any other questions or concerns and we'll be more than happy to help!
what kind of gains would you get if you added the ford racing 3v heads?
+Jed Knouse One of our employees had a built 3v a few years ago with Ford Racing ported heads, Stage 2 N/A Comp Cams, and a 10:1 compression ratio which put down 396HP. I know this kind of differs from the video, but there is an idea on what power can be made out of a 3v with a good setup. -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration without tune, gears or something like that?
CAN THIS SETUP WORK WITH FULL LENGTH HEADERS USING STOCK 5SPD. MANUAL TRANNY? IT SHOULD SOUND BETTER AND MORE MIDRANGE POWER. ALSO I PREFER THE ROUSH EXTREME AXLEBACK EXHAUST SOUND AND LOOKS OR BORLA ATAK AXLEBACK SYSTEM. THE CAMS ARE FROM FORD RACING AND THAT'S A PLUS FOR THE '05 - 2010 4.6L 3V THAT HAS AN AWESOME SOUND UNIQUE TO MUSTANGS.
Yes, this will work with full length/long tube headers. -Landan
The cams with long tubes and stock intake would have made a way better power curve except up top past 6200 rpm. Unless youre driving at WOT in 35 MPH zones lol 😂 go for it . Otherwise you lose a ton of low and mid range torque. The FP intake is not good for a daily
been wanting to add cams, but been ifey because my car has 170k miles, 2007 GT, can i still achieved these upgrades on her with that many mile??
Unfortunately, we can't answer that question. There are way too many variables involved to say yes or no. If you do decide to upgrade cams, I would recommend upgrading the valve springs at the same time. -Landan
If anyone can answer this, I would appreciate it greatly. I have a 05 Mustang GT with 38k miles and I'm hoping to replace only the cams. The car has been taken care of for those 17 years, but I'm not sure if it is a good idea to replace the springs/the entire valves in general. Do you think the hot rod cams will be fine with the 17 yr old OEM valves?
Rodger - I would talk with a local machine shop and get a professional's opinion on this. -Landan
I just have a quick question. Are there cam bearings?
no the cam runs in the head aluminum!
How hard is it to get the phaser bolts out? Mine are REALLY stuck in there.
+KartKing4ever Depending on the engine, every phaser bolt I have personally removed came out just fine. What are you using to remove it? -Landan
Late Model Restoration hey man ...iv installed stage 2 comp cams on my 2003 mustang gt ...the problem i have is that the cams sound really low ...it dose not have that rough idle noisy sound ...although its a 495 lift ! Would you please help me figure this out ?
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thank you!
So it doesn’t matter what position the cam is in as long as the phaser and timing chain don’t move
If the phaser and timing chain do not move, camshaft orientation does not matter. The camshaft will align with the keyway on the phaser. If they are moved, you'll have to pull the timing cover and retime the engine. -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration thanks she’ll be getting cams soon
Great video! :D
Is there a video on cam install for 99-04?
Hey Kevin. We unfortunately do not have a cam install video for a 1999-2004 Mustang. -Landan
Nice! Are there any hot rod cams for the 4.6 2v??
Takeshi O Unfortunately, hot rod cams are not available for the 2 valves. -Landan
+Late Model Restoration how come the new 5.0's don't have looping cams???
+eidolonbreed Because it is DOHC motor. Much harder to install
@@eidolonbreed you can get them for that engine as well!
would this work on previous models? (99-04 4.6 mustang)
Yea but are they smog compliant..
Unfortunately, these will not meet CARB legality in California.
should of just installed 4:10 gears and put an manual 5speed in it. probably would smoke this price upgrade
How wide is the intake opening? Will it match a 62mm tb
Something not right, my 2006 gt got 335hp with power flow intake, FR intake manifolds, FR throttle, long tube headers and flow master mufflers.
Assaad Zayer auto? Or manual?
Hi
there is connections in the back of the Intake Manifold... what should i connect it with ?
Omani4ever99 The same vacuum line from the factory intake manifold. -Landan
probably could have gained that much hp with just a tune alone. Awesome video though
Only 281 with all those bolt ons?
And that means what ?
@@andrewslagle1974 The car should make well over 300rwhp with typical bolt-ons is what he meant. Something was off with that car to begin with.
my bolt on 3v mustang makes 320 hp and 333 tq.
John Flores what's your mods on it?
Marcos Acosta BBK longtube headers with x pipe, Flowmaster American Thunder exhaust. JLT cai. with a custom tune from Two Ten Performance
Can this be done to a stick shift mustang? Same process as shown in the video?
Yes, the process is identical. -Landan
That's not that good to be honest and I'm a mustang fan but my G37S (3.7) with Stillen Gen3 intakes and tune made 312 and mind you I didn't crack open the motor yet
Yes 312hp is great but not when you make no torque. Vq engines are known to have terrible torque outputs. This car made 318lbft of torque while your 312hp g37 probably only made 270lbft of torque.
@@mikestoms4015 check my IG streetking310 you will see why I said that. I have a C6 corvette and a 5.0. This is horrible for the money
@@gblikesnikes I have an 05 gto which is the same power train as your c6 as well as a pro charged 350z. You are correct in saying This is not good for the money I’m just saying your g37 comparison was not a fair one since you didn’t mention and weren’t considering torque numbers.
Do you have to have better valve springs
You don't have to upgrade them, but it is recommended that you have upgraded valve springs
Does anyone know the name of the valve spring compressor tool used here and/or where to find it?
+legends51 Here is the link to the one we used for this install: lmr.com/item/LRS-ST101/3V-Valve-Spring-Compressor-Tool-05-10-ST-101
-Landan
Can yall dyno my car lol and tune it hasn't been tuned or dynoed since changing alot of things on it it does have the tune for the cams but I feel that I can get more out if it than I am currently I live 30 mins from late model lol if yall can let me know the price
Where can I get the fuel rail removal tool?? Do I really need it ??
Autozone
That’s A LOT😮
low numbers
boost junkie for a n/a 3v that's great
yea those are low numbers, best to just leave it alone. That is a hefty price tag for +35
with cai and sct 93 tune i make 302 at the wheel 1500 for 10hp LOL not great
I agree but 1/4 time is all that matters to me.
not worth the hassle
Can I just get the manifold? Or I need the cams to?
ferwifemen You can run just the intake manifold if you'd like. -Landan
what wheels?!
Can these cams be used in the 2010 Explorer. 4.6 3v?
David - I have personally installed these cams into a 4.6L 3-valve Mustang and 5.4L 3-valve F-150. Seems to me that they would work in a 4.6L 3V Explorer. Unfortunately, I don't have a definitive answer for you. Hope this helps! -Landan
Late Model Restoration
I installed the FRPP Hot Rod Cams and the Black Laser Etched Ford Racing Valve Covers in my 2010 Ford Explorer Sport Trac Adrenalin 4.6 3v, along with equal length shorty Headers a full true custom Dual exhaust with an x pipe, and Dual 2008 GT 500 mufflers, looks and sounds awesome, and looks like it came from the factory with the duals out the back
David, see my post
Why do you say "for an automatic car"?
Because autos put let power to the wheels than manuals.
+KartKing4ever How much less power exactly? This car had 315 to the rear wheel,If it was manual what would the horsepower be ?
+Juan Beltran Manuals usually experience ~15% drivetrain loss, Autos, closer to 20%. These figures can be improved by cutting out rotational mass in drivetrain components, ie: lightweight driveshaft, lighter internals and rotating assembly, lighter flywheels... even lighter wheels can help get that power to the ground. The less your engine needs to work to move all these things, the more power is available to put to the ground and move you forward.
@@garibay711cod aprox , like 362 hp
Offer anything like this for the 3v 5.4?
These camshafts will fit a 5.4 3-valve. -Landan
Wow, looking at the before and after dyno curves, this combo is crap. It is down 25-35HP all the way to 4500 RPM, where it is equal and then the new cams take off. What's worse is that torque is down by 50ft/lbs at 2500 and picks up 9ft/lbs at 4800rpm. These cams may sound good, but performance wise this combo is a net loss. It's hard to tell if the intake or cams are responsible, because the CMCV is designed to help low RPM performance. I'd say that intake is probably too much for stock heads and you'd be better off with the stock manifold -- you are losing a lot of velocity down low, just look at the stock torque curve, it's flat from 2k to 3k and rises 35ft/lbs to peak. The cams increase the peak values by 500RPM, but the manifold seems to kill performance down low.
+eformance It's the intake. The Ford Racing intake looks cool but sucks unless you're spinning the engine to 7000 RPM. I saw a test online where they took a car with big cams and ported heads and put the Ford Racing intake on it, it lost a bunch of power down low and only made 10 more hp way up in the RPM range.
+ghunt81 What video is this Im interested ?
No video, it's an article. Go on google, type in "4.6 3v intake manifold dyno", look for the one titled "three's a crowd"
Ok thanks bro
Because I have this mani lol
For a medium experienced mechanic how long will it take to remove and reinstall just the intake manifold?
just take the day off. expect to be in the garage for quite a while. these things never go as planned and you always lose a bolt or two and end up spending 30 minutes looking for the damn thing. or other little mishaps may happen. so its best to just give it a day in the garage. now if you have someone helping you that knows that they are doing id say a couple hours.
Daniel Diaz , ended up getting it removed at a workshop, took around 4 hours including repairing the heater lines
Can you put racing cams on a non gt?
Yes however, this cam will not work. I'd search LMR.com or SummitRacing.com for parts, starting at LMR.
The camshaft is responsible for the lifting of the valves, so obviously no since this cam shaft is designed for the 4.6 V8 (24 valves).
what side louvers are those? I want them.
Meep SHR flush mount louvers
Michael Saull thanks mann
All these negative comments makes me want to be a g8 owner. That's too much money for thay small bump in performance.
Will this fit a 5.4l tho
Oscar, according to Ford Performance these do fit 5.4L V8's ford.to/2LIYJgi
Lol @ "Not bad for an automatic car". The old myth that manual transmissions magically make the same engine faster.
Joseph Bentley its proven with these cars the 5 speed for a fact makes more on the dyno
haterget1nb3ast yes a manual transmission has less drivetrain loss than an automatic because there is less components in a manual transmission to get the crank hp/torque to the rear wheels
Joseph Bentley Manual Tranny doesn't make a car faster, it makes it fun to drive!
Automatic is oh, so fun to drive.... *rolls my eyes* If you want an auto just get a 4cylinder grocery getter.
@@denniss4951 till my auto schools all over any manual in its class, gotta Ratchet shifter with shift kit and 3:7 gear full built forged internals hot rod cam N/A 11.31 @ 126 making close to 500 to the wheel
What does s197 mean?
+joseph ojea It's Ford's internal nickname for this generation of Mustang. The nicknames loosely reference the chassis and drivetrain setup. For example: 1979-1993: "Fox", 1994-1998: "SN95", 1999-2004: still SN95, but received the new nickname "New Edge" because of the redesigned panels ("New Edge" wasn't an official Ford nickname), 2005-2014: "S197", and 2015-Present: "S550".
but look at the low end drop off yeesh
my car would not stall out
This is very disappointing. Together all these cost money and there is no "bang" for your buck with this setup. I have no idea which direction to go for my auto S197.
Drop a 5.0 coyote in it.
Christian Wartluft I'm not sure what I'd do. I may just throw on a few bolt-ons and find a 90' fox body to fix up.
+Roberto Williams id just go with a coyote engine and slam that into the engine bay. It pushes 420hp stock and its a brand new engine! Only problem is youll have to rebuild most of the drivetrain because of all the power. Good luck!
Christian Wartluft That's not a bad idea at all and one to actually consider. I was just hoping I could do full length exhaust, CAI with tune, camshafts, and throw on a supercharger & see some well respected power.
+Roberto Williams well with all those mods and if you pay someone to put them on, youll be spending roughly the same amount as you would with a brand new engine but with the engine its guaranteed power. Plus, making power on the 5.0 4v is easier than the stock 4.6. Theres much more potential to build a race car out of the Coyote.
Intake manifold and cams should be supported with aftermarket exhaust setup (Longtubes).. Otherwise those numbers are bottlenecked.
it is very difficult with out these tools...better go to a mechanic..
This 4.6 L is not worth the money to build up. Pull it and drop in a 408W Stroker.
can i do the same setup on a daily driver ?
F150 coyote swap