Surface Book 2 Review - The Most Powerful 2 in 1 Laptop!

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  • Dave2D review of the new Microsoft Surface Book 2. The best laptop and tablet 2-in-1 of 2017!
    13" Surface Book 2 - amzn.to/2yVlG6A
    15" Surface Book 2 - amzn.to/2B0jNqW
    Microsoft’s new Surface Book 2 laptop/tablet is a great looking hybrid device with the perfect hardware for power hungry consumer. The surface book 2 can be purchased with an i7 Intel Core processor, GTX 1050 or GTX 1060, 267 PPI PixelSense Display, 17 hour battery life and up to 16GB of RAM. The flexibility of the laptop and tablet mode can come in handy for many situations and can be the perfect solution for students looking for a lightweight, strong 2 in 1. The lack of a thunderbolt 3 port does limit it's ability to connect to external GPU's and multiple 4k displays.
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  • @Dave2D
    @Dave2D  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1027

    Really solid device from Microsoft this year. A bit on the pricey side but an excellent option for the right user. Thanks for watching!
    p.s - One of the graphs has a mislabeled CPU. It should be a i7-8650U

    • @heartoffire3093
      @heartoffire3093 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dave Lee do you have any tips on keyboard clicks / Mouse clicks noise cancellation

    • @legion637
      @legion637 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do you have any plans to review the new HP Envy 13? It's a laptop that everyone forgets but overall it's still very solid, and gives the XPS 13 a run for it's money, especially in the cooling department.

    • @gtpc5802
      @gtpc5802 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dave Lee D2d please tell me where can I get that blue white iceberg wallpaper I like it and want it to be on my pc

    • @HadiNuf
      @HadiNuf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. I needed this. I’m so happy you have your Eve V and look forward to your review next Monday!

    • @cyano3d
      @cyano3d 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Review the xiaomi notebook , boi.

  • @bimalad8297
    @bimalad8297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    After two years, nearly done with my uni now i'm buying this laptop

    • @TheOfficialRamVenkatakrishnan
      @TheOfficialRamVenkatakrishnan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      honestly the book 3 is just an incremental update, you should be happy with the Surface book 2

    • @samsulkarimi
      @samsulkarimi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Mister Albert Probably gonna be much cheaper than the new one.

    • @rdznarez7229
      @rdznarez7229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve had it for two years now and I hate it, it’s slow and honestly not worth it. I was hoping to get 4 years out of it but I’m already looking for a replacement

    • @tarandeepsidhu6812
      @tarandeepsidhu6812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rdznarez7229 what version do you have?

    • @rdznarez7229
      @rdznarez7229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tarandeep Sidhu The surface book 2 13 inch with the 1050, I7 8750U, and 8gbs of ram

  • @dangoruiz3259
    @dangoruiz3259 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2582

    IDK man, at that price I'd rather get an Alienware 13 with a 1060 ($1500) and an iPad Pro 10.5 with Apple Pencil ($750) and spend the remaining $250 on garlic bread.

    • @tiestofalljays
      @tiestofalljays 6 ปีที่แล้ว +285

      Dango Ruiz I see you have your priorities in order :D

    • @edgurrr
      @edgurrr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +332

      Garlic bread is a good investment. Mmmm

    • @microteam4
      @microteam4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      But... YOU CAN PLAY OVERWATCH WITH THE PEN MAN !! SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY MICROSOFT !

    • @jayal5771
      @jayal5771 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Alienware died on me after a year ,... My cousin repairs laptops he said , avoid Dell and Asus ,as much as you can

    • @microteam4
      @microteam4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Jay Al Dell has an awesome costumer support and an overall great product lineup. Otherwise asus's rog series is bullshit if you don't buy the very high hend model

  • @minx4742
    @minx4742 5 ปีที่แล้ว +409

    Keyboard - *Excellent*
    Track Pad - *Excellent*
    Performance - *Good*
    Gaming - *Pretty Good*
    Speakers - *Pretty Good*
    Battery Life - *Good*
    Web Cam - *Great*
    Mic Quality - *Pretty Good*
    Thermals - *Good*
    Fan Noise under Max Load - *A Little Loud*
    Port Selection - *Decent*
    *(2 USB 3.0’s, SD card slot & a USB-C)*
    Disadvantages -
    • *Price*
    • *The Lack of a Thunderbolt 3 support*
    • *The AC Adaptor they Included -*
    *it’s a proprietary connector*
    *📌SUMMARY📌*
    *Microsoft is the only company making something like this. If you buy it, make sure you’re making full use of it’s purpose, if you’re not making use of the tablet or the detach ability and all that, then there are cheaper, more affordable devices that would be a better fit.*

    • @alexanderg1935
      @alexanderg1935 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Good review. I agree! I'd also add that the build quality (Magnesium) is superb. As for the AC adapter; the proprietary aspect is a pain, but offset by the magnetic quick-release feature.

    • @MKermy
      @MKermy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The price is fair especially now where the top model is like 2.5 k and you can get the 15 inch with 16gb ram gtx 1060 and 256 GB used like new for around 1300-1500

    • @MKermy
      @MKermy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also you can charge with USB c

    • @Cscuile
      @Cscuile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      After around 1 year of use, I can say that this laptop has been absolutely worth it for my college journey!
      The tablet feature is quite useful for note taking. It saves you from having to carry around hundreds of papers, and in addition makes it easier to organize.
      If you do plan on getting a surface book, I would recommend getting a 6 ft extension cord, it is super convenient to have!
      If anyone has any questions feel free to ask me

    • @dbdchanna8481
      @dbdchanna8481 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cscuile I wish know the noice of its operation? How about the operation temperature of devices? It will be so hot?

  • @viv8870
    @viv8870 6 ปีที่แล้ว +944

    How I interpret Microsoft's products:
    - Surface Laptop: great ultra book suited for education or professional
    - Surface Pro: powerful tablet suited for education, artists, or outgoers/travelers
    - Surface Book: unique hybrid meant for the most hardcore professionals/artists (who travel a lot or are really outgoers)
    - Surface Studio: a touchscreen desktop/board for hardcore artists/professionals (ex. Engineers, photo editors, etc)
    That's my understanding of Microsoft's target markets.Agree or disagree?

    • @adamt7667
      @adamt7667 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Vi V Their market is also Apple's market: selling decent performing, well built products at prices that far exceed their usefulness, knowing full well that people will buy the shiny shit.
      Their isn't a defined market for this thing. It's not great for gaming, or video editing (compared to other similarly priced items), and their are far cheaper 2 in 1s with similar capability and build quality.

    • @espt9186
      @espt9186 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      I sort of agree. Though, I'm looking at getting a surface book for school for next year. I want to use the pen for handwritten notes, and while I don't do 3d or heavy video editing, i feel like I need the power cause my Mac book air is just not cutting it

    • @viv8870
      @viv8870 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Adam Taylor I agree with you in the fact that there are WAY better or affordable products similar/of equal quality of Microsoft. I wouldn't really say that prices exceed their quality A LOT. Surface Laptop is on par with razer blade, MacBook, Xps, etc. (with great performance and portability). Surface tablet is just a tablet crammed with cores and good ram (hence the high price, although it is higher than I'd usually expect). Surface Book is (somewhat) a monopoly, as it's a hybrid, but a very good and powerful one. Sure there are other hybrids, but I don't see any that can compare to the portability, performance, and hybridity (if that's a word lol) of the surface book. But it just costs so much because it's unique

    • @viv8870
      @viv8870 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ESPT Hey, they have the original surface book for less than $1000 on amazon rn. U can even get the i7 8GB 256GB SSD for ~$1100 (just without dedicated graphics). Hurry while they still in stock my dude!

    • @schmiggy
      @schmiggy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Adam Taylor there are definitely cheaper 2 in 1's, but not with similar capability and build quality. Most 2 in 1's absolutely *suck* in tablet mode because the keyboard ends up on the bottom, and because the keyboard isn't detachable, you're left with additional unnecessary bulk/weight. Not to mention the vast majority of 2 in 1's use integrated graphics which aren't even close to the 1060 in performance. And if you're not detaching the keyboard (like the majority of other 2 in 1's), then it has the longest battery life by far, and on a high resolution display. The only product I see close in terms of raw performance is the Yoga 720, but it's got a 1050 and 7th gen cpu, 1MP webcam, and plenty of other inferior specs, for pretty much the same price, and it has all of the problems I just mentioned that come with a fixed keyboard. This device is expensive, I don't think anyone would argue against that, but to say there are far cheaper products with similar capability and build quality is absurd.

  • @dannywinget
    @dannywinget 6 ปีที่แล้ว +935

    Something makes me want this. Regardless of its price to performance ratio.

    • @thelastcube.
      @thelastcube. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Danny Winget aesthetics

    • @abubakrakram6208
      @abubakrakram6208 6 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Many people will tell you the same thing about MacBooks.

    • @DarkPa1adin
      @DarkPa1adin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      it is the only proper 2-in-1

    • @nickp82
      @nickp82 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Are you seriously comparing a Mac book to this? lmao

    • @dannydav709
      @dannydav709 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Nick Pateman y, this is better?

  • @yongkysiaw6597
    @yongkysiaw6597 6 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Holy crap that's the best webcam i've seen ever in a windows laptop. It's so clear and the mic sounds really good and clear

    • @shangli8641
      @shangli8641 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ishan MacBooks are 720p

  • @curtbernardo
    @curtbernardo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how minimalistic this video is while I am watching. No panning, no zooming, no stupid effects. Just plain jane straight up talking about the device. Thumbs up, Dave!

  • @lolwut31
    @lolwut31 6 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Such quality reviews. That intro is beautiful, man.

  • @CloakedC
    @CloakedC 6 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I'm impressed with that webcam and mic.

  • @JoelinLBK
    @JoelinLBK 6 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    IMO this is a true “pro” laptop. I edit videos professionally and do a lot of shoots. This would be light, slim, easy to use. It’s expensive, but for what I do it’s worth it.
    Plus, compared to the MacBook Pro, you get a premiere friendly gpu, better cpu, battery, screen and a touch screen. Plus it separates if you just want the tablet.
    Again - expensive (obviously) but as someone who’s does 300-500 wedding edits a year, I can see a benefit to owning this.

    • @Folopolis
      @Folopolis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have to ask, why would you use Premier if you own a Mac? Final Cut is designed to run on that hardware and performs much better - personally I think Nvidia colludes with Adobe to make Premier perform worse than it should on AMD hardware. That said, Premier *should* perform slightly better on a SB2 than FCP on a MBP.

    • @Juumonji
      @Juumonji 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering the surface book 2 fiasco with the charging, I suggest you wait first and see if Microsoft can come up with a permanent fix.

    • @JoelinLBK
      @JoelinLBK 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Folopolis because I bought it before switching to premiere and am saving up for the surface book 2

    • @JoelinLBK
      @JoelinLBK 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kevin I didn't know there was an issue. I'm for sure waiting until 2018, I'm spending money on gifts and video games lol

    • @Lerroy007
      @Lerroy007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ChouzetsuDynamic he probably works for a company where they send him wedding footage to edit and he edits around 2 weddings worth of footage each day.

  • @Erhlk
    @Erhlk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Hi Dave,
    The reason they didn't include a Thunderbolt 3 port is because the "u" series processors only have 12 PCIe lanes, with only a single 4-lane channel (which is used by the dGPU). You see the Razer Blade, etc. using a dGPU+Thunderbolt 3 because the HQ series processors have 16 lanes, with 2 4-lane channels.
    It's unfortunate, but there's really nothing they could have done if they still wanted to include a dGPU. I think they made the right choice.

    • @maxlu2456
      @maxlu2456 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dylan Schultz what about a razer blade stealth tho? That one has a U processor as well and has thunderbolt 3

    • @nycmaster
      @nycmaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@maxlu2456 The old Kaby Lake U Blade Stealth did not have dGPU, that's why they had a Thunderbolt 3 port. The current Whiskey Lake U Blade Stealth can now have dGPU and Thunderbolt 3. I'm sure the Book 3 will use Whisky Lake U or newer and will have dGPU and Thunderbolt.

    • @KTMcaptain
      @KTMcaptain 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Max Lu if it doesn’t have the lanes then not everything can function at the same time.

  • @KawatraProductions
    @KawatraProductions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Superb video Dave!

  • @111mando111
    @111mando111 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Guys, you need to understand that Microsoft with this laptop is aiming for artist consumers, especially those who would benefit from its touch and drawing capability. I wouldn't buy this product myself, but I know friends in illustration major that extremely benefiting from that. I'd say Surface Book 2 is not just going against Mac, but also Wacom products. Wacom doesn't have many competitors, but Microsoft is their strongest competitors with their Surface lineup. For now, Wacom in precision is higher than Surface products, but I'd keep in mind that I wouldn't need a Wacom tablet with my laptop if I have Surface Book 2.
    I really like Dave's reviews, but what would be missing from this review is the touch and drawing capabilities of the Surface Book 2.

  • @ahmet6144
    @ahmet6144 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    felt like a calm video before going to bed, obviously clicked on dave. another great video mate

  • @JTPedersen
    @JTPedersen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best SB2 review I've seen. Your demeanor makes your review first class.

  • @WPAcademyPK
    @WPAcademyPK 6 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I really liked this device, but as dave said i am also concerned about price tag. I mean it's a huge.

    • @bbbo85
      @bbbo85 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The ZGX this is made for other companies to benchmark and make something similar but the problem is that those other companies aren't trying shit
      Hence this IS THE ONLY ONE that does what it does for the time being which sucks big time for students like me

    • @100sickness
      @100sickness 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      As the production continues and the technology for the the hinge gets cheaper hopefully prices will get better.

    • @aviroblox6624
      @aviroblox6624 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, at least we're getting the EVE V. I don't care too much about getting dedicated graphics, so I got a 2015 surface book for $700 (Blackfriday).

    • @Apfelkind4000
      @Apfelkind4000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just baught a Surface Book 2 with 13", i7, 8GB RAM and 256GB SD for 1770€ at Amazon. I think, this is an ok price-performance ratio. I can upgrade the storage with an 256gb SD card and a 1050 is enough for me to play some strategy games on the surface when I'm on a trip.
      For BF1 and such I still have my main computer at home. ^^

    • @leiflala
      @leiflala 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aviroblox Do you have any problems with the original surface book?? I don't think I need the dgpu either (emails, onenote, browsing, Skype) should all be fine right?

  • @terrytigner9600
    @terrytigner9600 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great review, Dave. For those of us that use the pen a lot there’s nothing else like it. I wouldn’t even consider buying anything besides the Surface Book 2. I got mine on the 16th: the 15 inch with 1 TB, and I love this thing. And the 3:2 aspect ratio is a delight and is more productive in daily work than any other screen ratio for me. By the way I understand the reason that the USB-C does not include thunderbolt 3 is because there were not enough system channels left available once the communication between the keyboard & the screen is fully implemented. It wasn’t a marketing decision. MS really nailed it with this machine!

  • @bmc1222
    @bmc1222 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I typically don't leave comments, but you consistently put out well rounded reviews. Always great to hear your opinion which always seem to be very pragmatic.

  • @raghuramgaddam2956
    @raghuramgaddam2956 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, you're approaching a million!! I really hope you hit a mil before your next video!! You've got no idea how happy I am.

  • @wisebijou3633
    @wisebijou3633 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Black Friday coming up soon, looking for laptop support. Where my mans Dave at.

  • @joshrealms244
    @joshrealms244 6 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I would love​ a black version!

    • @tachiroakisu5128
      @tachiroakisu5128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The dbrand skins for it are awesome. I have one on mine. (Black honeycomb). Dbrand can even skin the hinge!

    • @katrinaisoffline
      @katrinaisoffline 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @anak indigo in case anyone calls you racist i, an asian give this the funny pass.

  • @mikaelsant7980
    @mikaelsant7980 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy how I use to watch your videos when they only got a couple thousand views on chrome books and macs, it’s awesome how far you grown! Thanks for to this review!

  • @x3DaDivax3
    @x3DaDivax3 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You played a big role in me deciding to buy this laptop and I'm loving it!! Thanks

  • @acadia4995
    @acadia4995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    it's now a lower price! you can now get a surface pen, a carrying bag, and the full bundle for 2k with a student discount! :D

    • @Chloexo7
      @Chloexo7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      AmiAcadia student discount where and how?

    • @acadia4995
      @acadia4995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Chloexo7 on the windows website! just sign in and if you're a student it should say that you're eligible for it

    • @mattyschofield7041
      @mattyschofield7041 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm waiting for it to go on sale in the UK. They are still £2,350 which is expensive

    • @RenyxGhoul
      @RenyxGhoul 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matty Schofield that price is a cutthroat

    • @rykensnow
      @rykensnow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They really act like students could spare 2k

  • @KTMcaptain
    @KTMcaptain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Funny that you say it’s priced 15% high.
    On sale for 15% off right now at $1700

  • @sully0854
    @sully0854 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Videos are amazing and that wallpaper was sick

  • @4RAYSTECH
    @4RAYSTECH 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video! Insightful dave

  • @iielysiumx5811
    @iielysiumx5811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    devices like this are the future fr sure, a full-fledged laptop that can be transformed into a tablet
    I feel as though eventually tablets will just become part of both laptops and phones,

  • @stdoval
    @stdoval 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I paused it just to say BINGING WITH BABISH OMG I love you Dave. Even more now.

  • @AnissAoudjehane
    @AnissAoudjehane 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    was waiting for your review of this one!!

  • @ZaibJ
    @ZaibJ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been waiting...
    For a review like you

  • @dophir17
    @dophir17 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thunderbolt 3 is a PCIE-based technology. The way the Surface Book docks and undocks the tablet is by shutting down the PCIE lanes in the performance base. This prevents noisy signal from the physical disconnect from blue-screening Windows (PCIE is technically hot-swappable but Windows can't handle that burst of noise). I wonder if Thunderbolt was omitted because of the PCIE switching?

  • @tipoomaster
    @tipoomaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I don't think TB3 is Microsofts fault, but rather the number of PCI-E lanes the U series processors have. With the 1060 and a PCI-E SSD they probably used all the lanes. The rMBP 15 uses the 45W processors, and 13" has no GPU, which is why it can have TB3.

    • @pristavni
      @pristavni 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tipoomaster U series doesn't have any pci lane problem. got i5 u (spectre x360 late 2016 kaby lake) processor and got all lane available

    • @tipoomaster
      @tipoomaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      You misunderstood, it's because the Surface Book specifically was using 4 lanes for the high performance GPU, and 4 lanes for a fast SSD. If you have the 13" x360, that has no separate GPU to use PCI-E lanes on, and the 15" with the 940MX or MX150 probably didn't need 4 lanes on them. Not that it doesn't have them, but that Microsoft used them on other things.

    • @pristavni
      @pristavni 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      My bad, I now understand what you meant

    • @morells09
      @morells09 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The man raises a good point here

    • @bbbo85
      @bbbo85 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's because of that surface connect
      it uses 4 lanes on its own so... yeah
      I guess they would still like to use it cause they invested on it but limited usage of the port(unless you buy that $200?ish dock) and power drain issue on 15 inch makes me think otherwise.

  • @mrdonald6421
    @mrdonald6421 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very comprehensive review with professionalism like always,thumps up for you! Dave

  • @johnnydwicked
    @johnnydwicked 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ending with the pen in gameplay was awesome.

  • @wiouxev
    @wiouxev 6 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Dave! The price is fully justifiable. It's in the same tier as MacBooks and destroys them in graphic performance. And offers more utility.
    The TB comments are fair. But if they were going to cut corners anywhere I'm ok with it being TB as it already has a great GPU.
    Right now this is by far the closest device to an ultraportable, long battery life Ultrabook that can play games. I think it deserves more credit and hype than it's getting.

    • @iloveselenagomezyeah6486
      @iloveselenagomezyeah6486 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Evan Stueve I AGREE WITH YOU ON EVERY LEVEL. I feel like so many people don’t seem to give Microsoft the credit they deserve. Especially with the Surface Pro, like that was AMAZING so innovative and a completely new idea . It’s the best “laptop” that’s lighter and SOOO much more usable than anything on the market. I believe his cube uses look at ASUS copying the HECK out of it 😂

    • @kevincarver4759
      @kevincarver4759 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree 100% its essentially the MacBook of Windows OS but better. I also disagree with the people who say the hinge is ugly. I happen to like it, it makes it a defining factor to the device, something that can be pointed out in a crowd. Also it gives the screen an angle to write onwhen flipped around.

    • @Who-Uhm-Cares
      @Who-Uhm-Cares 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess. But i can tell you this will never be popular because of that price point. If it was $500-$600 cheaper then it would sell like hot cakes and i would def buy one.

    • @kalebsok2947
      @kalebsok2947 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aegon Targaryen yea like $2K? I had two friends who had these and didn’t realize how expensive it was

    • @kshiizsingh7877
      @kshiizsingh7877 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      100% agreed.....

  • @Selech
    @Selech 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey Dave! Superb video, looking forward to the 15inch version myself, hope you will have a video for it. I believe the PCIe lanes are too limited for them to make the device like this and include Thunderbolt, with the GPU separate and having their Surface connection. Not entirely sure, but could be worth some research to get an idea as to why they choose to use USB-C, which from my understanding doesn't require a PCIe lane?.. Again, not sure, but could explain the missing Thunderbolt :)

  • @d.reviews3734
    @d.reviews3734 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, the Webcam is really awesome and also the mic too. Every notebook maker should try to put the same quality as well. Great review Dave!

  • @natearts
    @natearts 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very thorough review. Thanks!

  • @pimisi
    @pimisi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    Something that's this beautifully crafted and could serve as both a tablet and a laptop at will and like you mentioned "it is super hard to engineer something like this with processors in both the top and bottom units". You feel $2K is too much for it? And $2K is not too much for a MacBook that does't do what this does? And $1K+ is not too much for an iPhone X that doesn't really have much innovation in it? Really?

    • @danieljace21
      @danieljace21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Paul Imisi Exactly

    • @jasontysoe138
      @jasontysoe138 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Just got one. Super happy. Have had heaps of different machines. This is the best. Better that a Surface Pro.... the tablet is thinner and much nicer to hold.

    • @jasontysoe138
      @jasontysoe138 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Got it 20% off too... on sale

    • @lifesucks470
      @lifesucks470 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul Imisi u missed massive battery

    • @checkanr138
      @checkanr138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hi Dave - i really like your reviews - BUT PLEASE INCLUDE REPAIRABILITY - the Microsoft laptops are even more terrible to repair than Apple MacBooks: th-cam.com/video/n8n05oYQzUY/w-d-xo.html Ifixit rates this laptop a whooping 1 out of 10 - that basically means if some little thing breaks, you can throw this into the trash. To develop for the landfill in 2017 is absolutely unacceptable at this price point. Imagine if your car battery breaks and you can't replace the battery? Yeah right, here you are screwed - no upgradeability, no replacement. With Mr. Bill Gates trying to convince us he is actually doing something for the greater good, why doesn't he look at his own doorstep and try to improve his own products so we are not wasting ressources like crazy because some money crazy companies think it is a great idea to deliberately glue every part of hardware together and make their hardware completely unrepairable?

  • @kimiesta
    @kimiesta 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Shoutout to Cyan, THE BEST COLOR

  • @someonewithsomename.4044
    @someonewithsomename.4044 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your all videos are so simple and beautiful that i watched more than 25 of them in 2 days

  • @mulciberus
    @mulciberus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gauge of a great reviewer is if my interest is riveted despite the fact that I'm never going to even think about buying the product. Practical, sensible, adept, concise. Thanks!

  • @iliamanolov5926
    @iliamanolov5926 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The reason it doesn't have Thunderbolt 3 support is most likely due to the limit of the connections between the base and the dock. This laptop has to already supply 4 PCIE lanes for the GPU, some extra for the USB ports and a charging connector to the dock. If there were Thunderbolt 3 on the dock, Microsoft would have to cram 2 or 4 extra PCIE lanes on the connection and it seems that's a difficult thing to do.
    Why they wouldn't include a Thunderbolt 3 port in the base though, I have no idea...

  • @adithyagulab
    @adithyagulab 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn that web cam quality is dope :)

  • @Darsh
    @Darsh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Dave! You make some amazing videos! Keep them coming. I got a quick question. How do you stay so calm in your videos?? Like you always sound so calm and collected its sick!

  • @mustafach20
    @mustafach20 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    you make me smile at 5:50, love Dave reviews

  • @excalibruh6751
    @excalibruh6751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I work for Microsoft. The reason there's no Thunderbolt port on the Book 2 is because Surface Connect takes 16 PCIE lanes and there are not enough lanes for a Thunderbolt port

    • @excalibruh6751
      @excalibruh6751 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nasim USB 4.0 won't be out for some time

  • @Av-ks8uc
    @Av-ks8uc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My company got us these laptops (for software engeneers only tho). We laugh about how we use them more at lunch for playing CS:GO rather than coding XD
    Tho being able to run live demos in a meeting with minimum waiting time, it's a really cool thing. We got rid of all our old workstations, we now have a desk, 2 monitors (I have 3 cause I'm a baller), a keyboard and a mouse (personnaly rocking a G810&G300s, colleagues prefer Corsair), all connected to a hub. Good decision IMO.
    Anyways, great video, as always man!

  • @JM1675
    @JM1675 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This dude has a pleasant listening voice. Clear, no uhhs, smooth and good pronunciation. He was made for reviewing.

  • @erproerpro903
    @erproerpro903 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job! You’re my favorite vlogger for IT. Superb content. Thanks!

  • @amiralimirhashemian6067
    @amiralimirhashemian6067 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There is not enough PCIe lanes for it to have thunderbolt 3, the other devices you mentioned have HQ processors those have more PCIe lanes

  • @westonsemones
    @westonsemones 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This is my literal dream laptop. Now if I could only afford it :(

  • @Lucy-xg9rm
    @Lucy-xg9rm 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Easily the best reviews on youtube. Theres no competition for you, Dave!

  • @bilbobeutlin6979
    @bilbobeutlin6979 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't expect to see binging with babish here :D great review!

  • @ShoeGod
    @ShoeGod 6 ปีที่แล้ว +448

    Doesn't include Thunderbolt because they want you to buy the dock

    • @superhamz7
      @superhamz7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Sherwin Facun thanks you, finally someone raised

    • @CWChandler1968
      @CWChandler1968 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Does the dock support 2 4K monitors? I didn't think it did. Plus the dock can't use external GPU, not that anyone would. If you want a 1070 or 1080 get one of those.

    • @abyssabyssabyss
      @abyssabyssabyss 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Craig Chandler I mean you can run two 4K displays on a single tb3 port but oh well

    • @abubakrakram6208
      @abubakrakram6208 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The thing is, I'd have no problem buying their dock… if it were equal to a Thunderbolt 3 port. But it's not. It can't do everything that Thunderbolt 3 can do. The use case of an eGPU is a perfect example.

    • @CWChandler1968
      @CWChandler1968 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My thought exactly. Do you think they will come out with a new doc that can do everything TB3 can and charge $250 for it, or is the connection not capable of that?

  • @shung1te
    @shung1te 6 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I would love this so much but it's sooooooo expensive :(

  • @chiranjivlal5654
    @chiranjivlal5654 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    We love ur vids..and ur accent as, well..,. It's a great experience to watch premium products on ur channel.. and the reviews u share..keep movin

  • @deadmanwalking5336
    @deadmanwalking5336 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice summary in the end

  • @sfbayak
    @sfbayak 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please do a video on the 15" version

  • @nintenjoeee
    @nintenjoeee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I stopped my 5 page English essay due tomorrow for this.

    • @tochanenko
      @tochanenko 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good choice bro :)

  • @gfisch72
    @gfisch72 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jeez I dig the youtube vids you feature. Shining some light on other youtubers is cool.

  • @ko12337
    @ko12337 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are really great! I already bought the Lenovo Legion Y530 but I m still whatching your videos

  • @tipoomaster
    @tipoomaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I know the 1060 kicks the poop out of the top Radeon Pro 560 in the rMBP, but a video of exactly how much would still be interesting to watch. Wish for Nvidia choices on Macs, I slightly prefer macOS but the GPU choices are pushing me away.

    • @junilog
      @junilog 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      tipoomaster Apple had beef with nvidia so i dont think they'll make one with an nvidia gpu anymore

    • @tipoomaster
      @tipoomaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, it sucks though for anyone looking for more performant GPUs in anything but final cut.

    • @porkypine602
      @porkypine602 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      From what I have read apple uses amd graphics card cuz they use lest power compared to the Nvidia cards.

    • @tipoomaster
      @tipoomaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, the MBPs are using 35W GPUs. But for one, Nvidia still does better watt for watt, so at 35 we'd still be ahead in most areas. Two, well, I wish Apple used higher wattage cards to start with, the last chassis was able to use 50. We shaved off two millimeters for that.

    • @lukasg4807
      @lukasg4807 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it's mainly because AMD is always happy to make custom gpu's, for things like MacBooks or consoles.

  • @bradleyk9192
    @bradleyk9192 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    HP PAVILION POWER REVIEW PLEASE! It looks good but idk if it is, or also more "gaming" laptops that don't really look like gamery

  • @andrew_bermudez
    @andrew_bermudez 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome review, Dave!

  • @memolano100
    @memolano100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome jacket and t-shirt Dave.

  • @alexandercrush
    @alexandercrush 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    They should make a skinnier version of this just in laptop without the tablet mode. That way you have the powerhorse laptop and a cool light skinny laptop. Because the design is too thick and has a dumb location for the headphone jack.

    • @simonsofowora
      @simonsofowora 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Alex surface laptop

    • @alexandercrush
      @alexandercrush 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah but it's not as fast or powerful

    • @simonsofowora
      @simonsofowora 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I see what you mean something in the vain of the Dell xps? Remove tablet mode to lower price and boost performance isn't such a bad idea

    • @krispyart3965
      @krispyart3965 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      dell xps 15

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's a miracle that there is a headphone jack at all lol

  • @Marc-zi4vg
    @Marc-zi4vg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ah Surface 2, the F35 of the PC world
    It tries to be everything and it's expensive!

    • @KTMcaptain
      @KTMcaptain 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t forget that its ugliness makes it look cool.
      Lol. MS engineer looks at the f35 hinged turbine nozzle and thinks, “I can make a laptop 💻 that bends like this.”
      In all honesty, they could’ve stayed with a normal laptop hinge.

  • @mindseye4914
    @mindseye4914 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos. They are very calming and informative with minimum-to-no bias. I loved this video as well. That said, I would've loved it even more if you'd have covered the pen in more detail. I am really considering this for business travel and note taking applications during meetings etc and the biggest reason for that is the tablet mode with the pen. With previous generations I have heard that the pen isn't as good and low-latency as the Apple one. So I was really looking toward a detailed perspective on the pen too. Oh well. Perhaps in a later video if you can cover that, it would be great. Thanks for the great content and quality.

  • @EgemenKaraaslan
    @EgemenKaraaslan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, awesome intro animation!

  • @summayyakhan4040
    @summayyakhan4040 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing.. Love microsoft..

  • @jeralzon
    @jeralzon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    You watch position is making me anxious.

  • @FahadNazir007
    @FahadNazir007 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's push it guys. Share this channel and get this guy his very well deserved 1 million subs before the end of this year. ✌

  • @ravikantkumar9718
    @ravikantkumar9718 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hardly comment on any video but this guy forced me to do that by posting quality content. keep goining.

  • @reidt9155
    @reidt9155 6 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    I'd love to see Apple's attempt at making something like this. It would be expensive as hell, but it'd be cool to see what they come up with.

    • @iloveselenagomezyeah6486
      @iloveselenagomezyeah6486 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Reid T that’s the thing they’re never going to go there , Microsoft is becoming more and more like how apple used to be unique designer-y but has some random quirks. However, Apple is acting the way Microsoft used to be stuck in their ways and cocky because they know people will buy it

    • @cwilfried8040
      @cwilfried8040 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Reid T Why should they do something like this ?

    • @reidt9155
      @reidt9155 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm not saying they should - only that their design would be interesting to see (along with the Dave2D video about it)

    • @jayal5771
      @jayal5771 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah but that would last 10 years and they won't make any money buy creating something that good ....

    • @portalplayer
      @portalplayer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They already have, it is called the ipad pro with keyboard.

  • @MaciekJutrzenka
    @MaciekJutrzenka 6 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Price? C'mon it fights with macbook pro, and it for me destroys. Better battery, tablet mode, way better gpu!

    • @ahmadwardani7076
      @ahmadwardani7076 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maciek Jutrzenka MacBook Way better cpu! Better keyboard and touch bar(even though if it is used less it costs Apple money to make it) and better build quality ssd is better

    • @tushar4evr776
      @tushar4evr776 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Surface Book 2 has a better CPU, GPU and build quality is almost the same.

    • @middletransport
      @middletransport 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yummyvideos Eff the butterfly keyboard.

    • @Pod0
      @Pod0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You are absolutely insane if you think a radeon pro 560x in a mac comes anywhere near the gtx 1060 in the surface book 2.

    • @middletransport
      @middletransport 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tushar4evr776 The Macbook has a better CPU but it thermal throttles like hell. Surface Book 2 has better cooling and therefore the CPU runs better. Also the touch bar is a useless gimmick that enables Apple to have another excuse to milk the consumers money.

  • @thiagoalmeida8135
    @thiagoalmeida8135 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the dave 2d videos hehe

  • @Johnyfrieser
    @Johnyfrieser 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like always great work Dave.
    For those who don't know his channel, and if you are not a pro with computers (laptops) check his channel he has a deep knowledge about it and he reviews if not every model, almost every model for sure...
    I can with absolutely with no doubt say, I know much more about laptops than I did before...
    And my main thing is gaming, so...
    Keep it up man!

  • @trustpizza8790
    @trustpizza8790 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ARE WE GETTING AN EVE VIDEO SOON???????

  • @ohsnoot
    @ohsnoot 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I don't get why some people just say it's a quirky product for "artsy" people. I'm not artsy at all and i love my surface pro 4 for my line of work (software eng) since we mostly work in Agile. And this is a beast upgrade to it. I don't like having to carry two laptops just to fit both gaming and work needs either. I agree it's expensive but i'm just saying there's a good market for the surface lineup besides art people.

  • @RahulSingh-zo7sm
    @RahulSingh-zo7sm 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That ending was nice!!!

  • @tonycuh114
    @tonycuh114 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn I love your videos! Your videos are helping me a lot!

  • @prathamovalekar
    @prathamovalekar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    please review the hp spectre x360 15t!

  • @Hobbles_
    @Hobbles_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video Dave! I agree, the omission of a Thunderbolt 3 port definitely rubs me the wrong way, as while the CPU should stay relatively relevant for a good number of years, the GPU will feel old very quickly, and a Thunderbolt 3 port with an external GPU would have been a great way to alleviate that. However, I do have a theory as to why it does not include a Thunderbolt 3 port.
    The Intel i7-8650u, the processor inside of the Surface Book 2, only has 12 PCIe lanes. 4 go to the GPU, 4 go to the SSD, and the other 4 are likely utilized for other components throughout the system such as the WiFi card. Now, I imagine some kind of solution could have been devised where, if you used a Thunderbolt 3 port, then the GPU would be disabled, however that likely would not have gone over well with consumers. As such, I imagine that Intel is the culprit for the lack of a Thunderbolt 3 port. As all other laptops I know of that have a discrete GPU AND Thunderbolt 3 use one of Intel's previous generation quad-core high wattage mobile chips, which all supported 16 lanes of PCIe, rather than the 12 supported by the highest SKU in the Surface Book 2

  • @jynpark
    @jynpark 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yesss been waiting for this

  • @stephtjune206
    @stephtjune206 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like your voice and thanks for a very detailed review, now you've got one more subscriber haha

  • @XanderBaatz
    @XanderBaatz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Dave please give us a 60 FPS video, just one!

  • @gunfumaster1024
    @gunfumaster1024 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    GOOD LORD a bloody 1060? Jesus christ that's so overkill...

  • @janikfregin6879
    @janikfregin6879 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the 1st gen for about a year now and just learned that you can charge the tablet by itself without the performance base. Thank you haha

  • @Zayralover
    @Zayralover 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    watching this vid on my new Surface book 2 (same config as the one in the vid). Its just AMAZING. Coming from a Surface pro 4, battery life has been OUTSTANDING!!!

  • @slavdam2300
    @slavdam2300 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So gaming with the 15" drains the battery even when plugged? Can someone confirm? That's insane, as Microsoft does market this laptop for gaming as well. It even has Xbox Wireless.

  • @lividis7837
    @lividis7837 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Peeped the Babish 👌🏻

  • @TheGonka95
    @TheGonka95 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I opted for the original 13.5" refurbished on their website for a lot cheaper. It looks brand new and functions quite well and comes with a pen. The packaging was extremely secure, more so than my ASUS ROG. I wouldn't pay full price for it either when there are better options out there. All in all I am quite satisfied with what I need/want it for. To each his own. Love your honest reviews!

  • @xdma9470
    @xdma9470 6 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Binging with babish I know Him ;)

  • @tongchuanshen3949
    @tongchuanshen3949 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My guess is that the connector between screen and base do not have enough bandwidth to support a discrete graphic card and a thunderbolt 3 connector. So they didn't do it

  • @quidproquo82
    @quidproquo82 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't had a windows computer in 10 years since I bought my first macbook pro, but this made me switch. The industrial design is gorgeous in person. It's futuristic but at the same time retro. It is very Geiger-esque, radical but also totally minimalistic.

  • @ngmstyle
    @ngmstyle 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always. One thing about the USB C port, it can charge the device through that port but it's reportedly much slower than using the Surface adapter

  • @itsGuy
    @itsGuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But can it double as a chefs knife like my Lenovo 920?

    • @eaking523
      @eaking523 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wtf 😂 Thats hilarious but is there a joke I dont get?