Microsoft Surface Pro 6 Review - 60% Faster!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- The 2018 Microsoft Surface Pro 6 has been revamped this year. Is it the best 2 in 1 laptop on the market?
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With the new 8th gen processors from Intel, the new Surface Pro 6 has a BIG jump in processing capabilies but there are still some issues with the product category. The new black color is beautiful to see but PROTECT THAT THING. It shows scratches very easily!
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The black finish is REALLY nice to look at, but a lot of the device remains the same. Is the new processor enough for you to upgrade?
What's the background in your TV
TV background looks very really good
these bezels are thickk boi
No, it's not worth it.
Really love your videos any tips for newbies
Dave is a type of guy who would dbrand his microwave
LOL, thanks man, that comment made my day!!!
Frank Litto aye glad i made ur day : )
love it' lol!
Hahaha
I thought it says "Doug" at first
Apple: You only get USB-C.
Microsoft: You don’t get any USB-C.
Waffle When the company is tired of USB-C meme lol
Sadly, something in between would be the best for both companies.
LMFAO 😂😂😂
But why would you need the c port? I just bought a s9 and out of the box the charger cable is a reg usb to usb c. Plus, those devices aren't even fast enough to have a proper pci bandwidth.
In this day and age, having type c ports only, means buying dongles ALWAYS. And honestly who is up to that.
@@rickyricardo2006 type c is the modernised port. It's even way faster at charging and transmitting data. These companies who have their own ports just like the extra cash if you lose yours that's it. But look e.g. the charge time of the new iPhone and compare it to any of the type C port phones charge time. You'll see what I mean.
This is why Dave2d is the best tech youtuber out there.. everyone has mentioned the lack of USB Type C.. but Dave is the only one to mention a possible reason why they omitted one!
He's also not a sellout who constantly pushes products from sponsors!
It's specifcally targetting uni students, none of us use USB-C since we dont use a E-GPU for gaming
@@jeneralgod but consider charging on the go with a powerbank through a usb c port. It's just good to have options
@@odingerke1463 yea a phone powerbank that will take for ever to charge the surface ..
Not if it's outputting more than 15 Watts.
@@odingerke1463 15w powerbanks are usually huge so i think it defeats the purpose of having one in the first place .. at least for me
During night time, I watch your videos to get sleepy! You make amazing lullabys 😊
You even matched your clothes to the color of the product. Nice !!!!!
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@@deyszaam5898 nahi bhai
@@asefjamilajwad haha yeah
Now we need Matte Black MKBHD to collab with him
Yahan urdu/hindi kidhr chalna shuru ho gayi hai? Wtf??😂
First time in 3 years seeing you in a black hoodie/shirt ever 😂
Dave Lee is the most effin' honest TH-camr. That's why I'm subscribed.
Gotta say replacing the Mini DisplayPort with USB-C makes more sense to me. Keep the Surface connector, but enable TB3 on it I say. Now you have the docking/power magnetic connector plus a USB-C port.
Really cool video. One piece of feedback tho: I just wish that, in addition talking about whether or not this is a big update from the previous gen, to also give some time to focus on whether this is a good product to buy in 2018/2019. Thanks for again for the great video!
Best channel. Unbiased and really care for the viewers perspective. Keep it up !
I really like your videos. Clean, calm, to the point and insightful. Great job, I'm a fan!
I’m so glad you say “neesh” instead of “nitch”
I only now noticed that the image on the screen in the back is the same as the video graphs, I wonder if Dave's been doing this for all the other videos, damn I'm slow...
100% on point. Nothing more to say. Thanks Dave for the quick look and review
Man! I love to see your videos cuz your are honest and informative. Tnx
Wtf, still no USB-C??? 🙄🤯
That sucks why? We need it
Because MS needs profit from their propritory surface connect things. You can get different USB-C docks for a better price-performance-efficiency.
The propritory surface connector is awesome! USB-C would be nice though.
Apple doesn't have one though
Although It should have it, I personally still do not own anything that needs usb c bar my phone so I don't really mind as in the future there's still adaptors that I'd have to deal with if it had them anyway.
:49 absolutely BLEW MY MIND
Love your videos Dave!
Just the information I needed. Was debating on upgrading my surface laptop for grad school, but now think I might wait a generation. That black finish tho.... Great videos, keep it up!
Nice video Deval lee
Microsoft needs to start making Windows phone again and actually put an effort into getting more App support. Believe it or not, that will help the appeal for their laptops. I went into the Microsoft store the other day at the mall and it was painfully empty. They are missing out
After Nokia left it's impossible to comeback
They could but my god would it be a struggle. Android has become extremely refined over the last few years.
would lose them to much money they basically have no user base
Nope. They've tried multiple times, and it really isn't worth it.
If they make their eco system more like apple, that could make Microsoft products incredible,
Big thanks to add that SSD speedtest. Can't find it anywhere else but here :) Love your videos!
Thanks! Been waiting for this
Microsoft should consider using the new ryzen mobile cps. I hear the integrated vega graphics mop the floor with 8th gen intel graphics
Yes indeed they do
I think the more business-oriented target audience of the Surface Pro devices would rather prefer an Intel CPU over an AMD one, which is why they're making the sacrifice on graphics.
Or better, ditch the fanless design and add a dedicated Nvidia GPU.
@@mt_xing and why exactly is Intel better than AMD in business?
Houssam Alucad reliability
Why is USB C such a big deal? The world still revolves around USB A..
USB-C to connect to anything, such as charging, Thunderbolt 3 for gaming
@@jeneralgod "The world still revolves around USB A".
@@chltmdwp it's going to change sooner or later, other laptops already have USB-C on them
@@jeneralgod My 2016 laptop has USB C. I have never used it. All my memory sticks, keyboards and mouse have USB A. I know USB C is the future but it will be a while until everything runs on USB C.
@@chltmdwp 10 months later i still own nothing that uses usb C except a nintendo switch.
No matter how many reviews i see from this gentleman. It’s always thoughtful, real life based and properly researched.
Lighting is really on point in this video. Not sure if it’s the colour correction, but it just looks so nice. Great video!
2017: “Wtf USB-C is so lame, I hate the dongle life”
2018: “Wtf no USB-C? Where is the innovative thinking”
😂
No one said that USB-C itself is "lame" or something like that.
People are complaining if a Laptop only has USB-C ports and nothing else.
But no USB-C at all is BS as well...
Htey should include at least one USB-C port beside the normal USB-A etc.
My laptop has both and it’s the best case scenario
if you're gonna have a mini hdmi port, you might as well replace it with a usb c for more versatility. I don't like the dongle life, but the SP also offers a USB A port.
I have a thinkpad X380 with 2 USB A ports, a USB C charging port and HDMI which is the best of all worlds compared to the No USB C on the surface and the only USB C on the macbooks
it was more of "wtf only usb-c? that's so lame" and people (including me) still feel that way
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Yeah, Who? Dave?
Dave is a very good Android, I agree. The flesh on flesh look is very premium, and those eyeballs takes some seriously good video.
@T H E S M I L I N G S L O T H Both
Used to have a SP4. Getting this on Monday and can't wait!
Is it easy to use on a desk?
Love the new intro. Keep it fresh!
Not buying without usb-c, could have easily replaced the mini-dp.
Last year the lack of USB-C was almost forgivable but for 2018/2019, just not acceptable anymore. I won't replace my SP3 until MS gives us what we want.
Woke up at 3 am(India) to watch this video man . Ur videos are damn well made excellent buddy . Waiting for another within 2days
Dave you are always a one of a kind reviewer.
Lol Lucas the spider XD
lol that drawing
Great review Dave. Would love to hear your thoughts on the Lenovo X1 Tablet and the Dell Latitude 5290 2-in-1. Keep up the awesome videos.
Love the black finish, I'm with you Dave, I'd pick this up in a heartbeat if I could use my eGPU via. USB-C
Please make a video about the new HP Pavilion Gaming 15 Laptop!
What's the point, you're just mocking me now
No one mentioned how he have overwatch on his
Nice review and I love your videos! Can you do a review of 14” laptops that are good for casual gaming (not triple a titles) please?
I really like how you review products. You don't bash or over praise it, just tell us all the info and what it's best suited for. 👍
Dave can you get your hands on the new Alienware m15 and review it ? I know Alienware hasn’t announce it yet but I just can’t wait ! 😍😭🤤
It’s probably just another pile of mierda
Microsoft made a dumb argument, they are acting like the TB3 port needs to accept power and replace the surface connect, when it dosent. it can just be a thunderbolt 3 port like every other and not be able to charge and use the surface connection still
What's the point of thunderbolt 3 in the first place here? Why would you want it?
@@NathanOlivares you can connect monitors using it, or literally like anything because it's type c
It's got displayport and USB 3.0. People buying a surface aren't buying a desktop replacement, they're buying a simple small portable laptop. It's got plenty of ports. I've also yet to need anything other than USB 3.0 and HDMI on my laptop ever, even as an engineering student working in IT
@@NathanOlivares that's great lol but the type c port can do the same thing as the display port and more. I'm not seeing the downsides of including the port
I've yet to run into anything irl that uses USBC. Not monitors, flash drives, mice/keyboards, etc. Could/should they have added it? Sure. Are most people going to care one way or the other? Not really
100000% agree with the Thunderbolt 3/ USB C and another great vid. Dope product to catch on sale in a year,.
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What's the background in your tv dave
Mitty Ahmed Looks like it’s a wallpaper.
@@tiestofalljays he is asking for that particular background to download you genius 🤣🤣🤣
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@@pimhot7390 thanks
Hey dave...its been a really long time since u reviewed a Xperia device why don't u do that...😊
Agreed to bad he didn't xz2 premium is awesome and xz3 is also very nice. I spent days and night to travel and use only xz2 premium and this phone really surprised me then I decided to keep it.
I don't remember him reviewing any Xperia device in the past. It will be great if he did
@@samueltan2148 yep but atleast his good friend mkbhd did one...but even he stopped his hand on Xperia devices
the only thing keeping Sony alive is thier PS4
No one buys Xperia
Hey David GREAT review.
@Dave Lee nice review, just wanted ask about the wallpaper in the background!
Is Surface Pro 6 good for coding and programming?
The Surface Go would be better for that, 😊👍
Nice hoodie man where did you get it from?
target
About time that it's been updated
I LOVE to rest my fingers in between the track pad and the keyboard (and run my fingers up and down there while thinking or waiting). I kind of miss that on the MacBook Pro 2018.
I think white is more prestige, it gives a sense of luxury, black is good on things that need to look professional technical only.
Releasing such a device without USB-C in late 2018 is quite backwards. Can‘t believe it.
Just waiting for this review
God I love how straight forward your videos are hahaha ♾
I'm wondering if these 50% faster kind of improvements are gonna have a limit one day 😂
I wouldn't think so, it'll move to quantum computing eventually.
but right now it is still all about the transistors. Quantum will be years before we can see it in app. There is now a cap on the 7nm and they will probably come out with something smart to get to it.
@Trans Conservative isnt that what i said tho
I agree with your opinion that this PC is a niche product. Who is this machine for? Power users need a fan to prevent throttling (4 cores!) and mobile users look towards other value-oriented computers. The expensive keyboard (which should be included) also give people second thoughts.
Then again its the perfect device for university students
Some of the users fore this "niche" product are artist, it's a really nice device to be drawing on
It’s a hybrid portable PC. What else do you want?
Most of the people and students use the computer for light tasks which are easily fulfilled by this `hybrid ultra-portable PC`. Power users and gamers are obviously not buying this product. Mobile users or casual users or people that want to spend less can buy a Surface Go, the entry Surface model, which can even handle Photoshop.
Mobile users also want a quality product you know. I need to take my laptop on the go (so like that it’s thin and light) and I love the versatility it gives me when I’m at home. For more demanding stuff, my home pc with its 7770k and 1080ti does the work.
Thanks Dave for the review; as always, quick to the point, clean review, minimalist with a lot of meaning. My niece switched from the iPad to the Surface since Apple still continues to remain.....mouse-less. Again, thanks for the review!!!!
Good review. You’re doing a great job.
Yeah no USB-C? Looks like I'm Not buying this product
Basically the same
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Best looking device I have seen till now. 👌😲
Hi Dave - thanks for the review. I have a Surface Pro 6 maxes version sitting in the Microsoft shopping cart as I contemplate other 2-in-1 (XPS, Folio etc). Still on he fence but liking most of the surface pro reviews.
On a side note - the audio for your video is great, might I ask what you are using? I have a Sennheiser that I can never really get to sound nice.
Why do I bother... I can't even afford it
Why does it need bezels?
Someone pls explain i'm sleepy rn lol
Its a tablet.. You have to hold it with your hands and if there's no bezel you're just touching the screen which would need palm rejection algorithms which windows 10 doesn't have and probably won't have for a while.
@@jamesp5644 the surface pro doesnt have palm rejection? Then why does it have a stylus then
Never been this early before, btw I just loves the wallpaper that Dave choose for his monitor in the background
Still rocking my Surface Pro 3 which I've been using every day for 4 years. I still haven't seen anything...whether the Surface lineup or iPad Pro, that makes me want to upgrade. Maybe next year?
I will get a surface when they get thunderbolt 3.
idiot
Miss Controllerism thunderbolt 3 is awesome why would you want slower ports and no eGPU support?
Look at the Eve V 2 in 1s
They are based off the surface pro, pretty much the same device, just a few differences here and there. Has a thunderbolt 3.
@@alemusicgirl my reason being is, for all the work I do, it requires an egpu. I also like to game on the side. I have my dell XPS 13, and it's amazing, but, the idea of a tablet that can do all that sounds amazing.
@NoobAkuma Worstgamer I believe that type c has the same speeds as 3.1, just a reversible, smaller connector. And no one company owns the USB standard, I believe it's open source. That's why Intel was able to create thunderbolt 3, using the type c connector, and have it still play nice with type c.
If you guys want to give me one of that, don't hesitate.
Hey Dave! awesome work that you're doing here, I've always loved your videos, they're just so detailed. I have a question though. Can I use a keyboard and a stylus which isn't of Microsoft with the surface pro?
I really like the 8 gig base model. I've always wanted a surface and honestly could take one from the line up past the surface pro 2 and this makes it so much more affordable.
Bummer no USB C . My next laptop is going to have to have that so I'll look elsewhere
Make sure is usb-c 3.1 Gen 2 10 gb/s if you use a cable it has to have the same specification as well as any external drive.
Wow!!! People are so fast to make a comment.
I'm fast to reply
haha great !!! but it took me a while to reply you back because I received no notification yet.
XD
98% of comments add no value. Perhaps this one as well.
yup not me tho
I never used any product he mentioned (except MacBook pro-2016 & MX master mouse which everyone says good, I am talking about MX master mouse), but he seems really trustworthy and honest. I am following him maybe for 2 years and I am really grateful for this.
A picture of thermal throttling in extended cpu scenario would have been nice, but great video as always!
When the Surface lineup gets thunderbolt 3, it’ll be a no-brainer
Someone told me its “60% faster because of its color”
Hmmm🤔🤔🤔🤔
Devon Persaud they spoke the truth I own one
Love your matte black finish coat :)
Thank you Dave!
Who really cares about USB-C on a computer like the Surface Pro? It is NOT a gaming computer. My MacBook has 4 USB C ports and after a year I have yet to find them useful. The are in fact a pain in the ass as you have to have a slew of dongle and adapters. If you want to do gaming then get a 10lbs “laptop” made for gaming. This is a great little computer for taking notes, using all of Office, plus a thousand more programs. The magnetic connector is a great thing and it is unfortunate that Apple gave them up - especially for almost no real gain.
Don Catalano that’s exactly how I use my Surface pro right now. Taking notes in class and I also used it for Programming and Database work in previous classes.
Really not a large fraction of people who miss USB C. Vast majority of people do NOT plug in GPUS to their tablets. GOODNESS. I honestly have never seen anyone use a USB C peripheral in ANY office or classroom save plugging into a VGA projector (and I travel to many universities and businesses around the country). Get out of your tiny niche please, techies and speak about what real consumers care about.
Exactly!
What about connecting your phone to your tablet with a USB-C to USB-C cable? and then using the same charger for both? and the same USB-C headphones? and eventually, maybe, hopefully, to your projector, display, etc.
@@espi742 usb-c headphones?
Nice and informative review! I pre-ordered Pro 6 few days ago and would be curious to know what is the SSD brand in your tablet?
One of the few tech reviewer that shows overwatch gameplay. Thanks for this dave as its the benchmark id use for buying newer laptop
People with usb c complain they need a dongle. People with usb a complain they are not usb c.
D. A. Usb C isn’t what’s complained about, it’s the lack of multiple types of ports.
Ports are a balance, too many types is bad(for space reasons and price) too few and users need dongles.
The complaints never been, you have usb c now I need a dongle. It’s been, you only have usb c now I need a dongle.
The complaint is the same really, too few types of ports.
We need both A and C is it too much to ask.
Apple and Microsoft have gone mad.
this isn't particularly towards Microsoft or anything, But the current state of computing products are in its worst state in innovation, Its all about making the thing faster or thinner. And yes, That is what the customer wants, But where are the times when companies wanted to wow the customer with something never seen before, That particular mindset has vanished from the tech industry...Now its all about how to become the next trillionaire company.
EngravedinDeath surface studio came out in the last two years, andromeda may or may not be in development, hololense is mad if you ever use one, and the surface book is one of the most impressive laptops I’ve ever seen. I think MS is innovating too much and targeting consumers too little if anything.
External GPU support, 120 Hz displays, insane CPU performance, Windows Hello etc. I think the industry is doing pretty good :)
99% of things 'never seen before' become obsolete before they even hit the market. When you have some spare time, go watch one of those Home Shopping TV shows. Many of those products make you go wow, and they seem really useful and innovative, but most of them are solutions to a problem no one has, or gimmicks. They have to be sold to old naive people watching TV because their real-world application is useless. Innovation rarely takes big leaps. It's usually done in small steps. Compare the first computer ever with the second, and there seems to be hardly any difference. But compare the first one with the ones we have now, and they will surely make you go wow.
Nintendo’s almost every console is different, but i agree.
Wait until Samsung brings Galacy F, F for foldable. That you can call an innovation.
For there to be a WOW factor someone has to think of it in the first place. For phones the industry copies apple and all they do.
Truthfully, I dont have any plans to buy anything, I only subscribed to listen to Dave talk about stuff lololol.... Dude seems so genuine and sincere
This video is so satisfying.
This isn't the surface go. Not having a usb-c port in LATE 2018 is inexcusable for any flagship electronic device being released now. There's no reason why they couldn't have a surface connect on one side and even ONE usb-c/thunderbolt 3 port on the other.
They're likely saving it for the redesign next year. Adding USB-C costs a lot more than you think, so they may want to bundle the cost of adding USB-C with the rumored redesign.
@@torchatlas8128 the thing is that redesign is rumored lol
@@vals9838 At least it's a pretty good rumor. It makes total sense. The design of the Surface Pro is getting a little dated.
I'm curious what do you use a thunderbolt 3 or usb-c for?
@@hikingbird42 thunderbolt 3 is just technology which uses usb c port.
128Gigs and no usb C? No thank you
128 gb expandable with SD cards up to 512 gb and more.... usb C its not a problem at all there are other pros in this laptop... bur propably you are an ishpeep and you would prefere a 2000 bacshit pro with 4 type c port and a slower CPU
I have a surface pro 4 for work and it’s so slow now when under heavy work loads, really hope they upgrade to theses
great video! Subbed and liked.
no usb c, no point
Especially on a device like this come on Microsoft if you want this to sell give it usb-c
They're probably saving it for the redesign next year. Adding USB-C costs a lot more than you think, so they may want to bundle the cost of adding USB-C with the rumored redesign.
@@torchatlas8128 how much more? 20-30 dollars?
@@James__123 lol no. More like thousands more. They basically have to redesign the chassis and lots of internal bits and wires.
@@torchatlas8128 the surface would cost thousands more because of a usb c port?
$900, why would someone even buy this. There are far better laptops for the same price.
Because that someone wanted surcace not a regular laptop, because maybe that someone already have a heavy laptop or pc.
As someone that carries around a laptop all day (student) I much rather have a lightweight tablet+keyboard that can also replace all my notebooks with the stylus+OneNote. I don’t need external GPU support either. An ultra book with better specs just doesn’t have the same versatility.
Then it's not for you. I want portability, best of windows and build and aesthetics
A solid review in 5 minutes. Impressive.
Completely agree... I'm on a SP4 and I feel like I need an upgrade, so I was really looking forward to that Thunderbolt 3 on this years model. Now I don't know what to do. "Lenovo ThinkPad X1 gen3 tablet", seems to be the way to go, but I really wanted to stick with a Surface