Just to add something else… The primary function of the adjustable clutch on a drill isn’t to keep it from twisting in your hand. It’s to prevent over tightening of things. It’s really easy to destroy things like plastic anchors by driving the screw to hard or fast.
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Nice video. Bought only an impact driver to save $150. Was looking to learn if using an impact driver to drill holes does damage to the driver. Also, my $30 drill gifted 20 years ago has a hex shank... love the ease of use. Thanks for the video, gave me peace of mind for my driver.
Once I used an impact drill, I als pretty much stopped using an actual drill. At home I have only an impact drill with the proper drill bits. I live the power and compactness of them.
Impacts had come a long way but Drill is still king. A drill is basicly anything. You don't need special designed Bits or drills. Your drill screws, drills, can mix paint, twist wire can take a metal or poly brush for cleaning whatever. Your drill can replace the hand bar of your car jack. Last week i used my drill for turning 500 feet of fishing line. You can use polishing pads and so on.
Ain't nothing more satisfying than the screaming of an impact driver. Some people hate the racket but I actively seek out things to drill just to get that satisfying hammer sound. My wish is that I can someday impact drill things professionally, except I could work whenever I wanted, and make a million dollars per year. Also unlimited vacation days and maybe on a beach somewhere. The other day I was drilling out some holes with a spade bit using my 20v Dewalt drill and my wrist got janked so many times. Threw the bit into my 20v impact and it blasted through effortlessly, and not only that but it was a cleaner exit as well. As long as it fits in the impact's chuck, I don't see much of a reason to use the drill unless I'm using an actual drill bit and it's a more delicate situation.
You can still use the impact drill bit in the regular drill too it will save you time from using only the impact driver and always having to change from a drill bit to putting on a bit to drive screws that way both tools get used and save you time and get the job done faster
Both tools have their place at a work site. The impact ready drill bits are shorter which limits the practical use when drilling in wood. I have to say this specific set is my favorite when drilling in metal. I too use impact for it and these bits are nice and sharp. However I don't really use this on wood. Again, the length of the drill bits and less control makes a drill still needed tool.
Also I think a major difference is the level of noise. A drill is near silent and the impact can be loud enough to ring your ears. Might not matter in most situations but if you're working at night at a client's house then a classic drill is the way to go.
That’s a great point. They actually now make impact drivers that instead of having metal hammers hit a metal anvil, it impacts into oil so it’s extremely quiet
@@korbano That's true, I haven't tried one yet but I've heard that hydraulic drivers are a bit of a hit or miss, they are usually slower and less powerful than their full contact counterparts. I'm still trying to get a hold of one to try it, if it's really that quiet than maybe it's worth the power sacrifice.
I'm still a firm believer in using all 3 tools for their intended purposes. You can use an impact driver for drilling metal or wood but a drill is always better. You can use a drill for driving screws but an impact driver is always better. You can also use a drill for drilling masonary but a hammer drill is always better.
I don’t think it will ever completely replace a drill. A hammer drill does something completely different. Also, I think it’s best to have a drill and a driver. I don’t like having to keep changing bits. I like to just keep a drill bit in my drill and a driver bit in my driver. Besides, it’s usually more cost effective to buy the drill and driver as a set because you usually get two batteries and a charger.
If you can use impact, you should use impact. The problem is that you can't use impact for larger holes. Trying to use impact on a 1-3/8" step drill absolutely does not work because it stops spinning and the tiny impacts are not enough to cut the metal. It feels like impact stops working somewhere between 1/2 and 3/4 inches of hole diameter.
I still dont get why they even make conventional drills anymore, my impact does the same things if not more than my conventional drill does.. my brushless subcompact sits on my tool box at home while I'm on the job
I have zero reason to own a sub compact or even a compact drill, I have a heavy duty hammer drill and an impact driver, the drill is nice for holes like 12mm through steel, and concrete drilling(I'll use an SDS preferably though if there's one around) But once I get more hex shank drill bits I'll use my driver even more
If you are not a tradesman or contractor (if you live in the US) and want a tool for around the house i would recomend an impact driver rather than a drill.
You should not be using impact unless you need to. The problem with the drill motor are more often the operators; everyone just attempts to bully anything in their path. Impacts are good for the likes of sheet metal, tapcon, maybe spade bits. Personally, I think it’s always worthwhile to pilot followed by countersink before using the impact on stuff like decks. The Milwaukee ti index is of good quality, but they are going to be only as durable and effective as the operator. I always use my drill motors more.
Cal L I believe you mistyped meaning you should never use a drill. Anyone using a drill for a job that an impact can do more efficiently, safely and reliably is just being stubborn at this point. Time to join the 21st century
No I did not mistype. As someone that owns 5 modern BL impacts and even more drills, Impact has places such as sheet metal, tapcons insertion, and sloppy framing/decking (no one is going to mind if you pilot a no 8 into a post). However, most of the time that kind of power is not necessary, and undesirable. Any piloted hole should be easy for most drill/driver motor to push a screw into (you obviously can use a impact, but the last bit gets sketch and you risk of cracking things). Even drywall/deck screw-guns are just glorified drill/drivers. People need to understand how to use the clutch and well as the trigger while not blasting everything in sight. I always try to pilot at least the top piece, I don’t believe in brute force most of the times - the joint becomes fundamentally different in nature.
Actually some have 4. I am not sure why the insistence on using impacts. They both have their place, they are different. Often drill is more preferred by myself.
Cal L No insistence it’s just simply a better tool. It’s like using a circular saw to cut trim when you have a mitre saw. There’s just nothing that a drill does better in mine and many others opinions
I am quickly finding myself using my drill less and less and only using my impact drivers. At some point I almost wonder if the normal drills will kind of just an accessory instead of a “must have” essential tool.
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I like having both. I hate fiddling with bits when drilling pilots then screws so i have my drill bit on my drill and my driver on the impact.
Do you really need to drill a hole to drive the screw in or is it enough just to use the driver to drive the scroews with the need to drill a hole first?
In this case there was a copper plate between the wood and the screw, a screw designed for wood won't like metal very much (Since it's just a thin copper plate it would probably still work but it would be less precise and would probably bend or break the metal around it quite a bit). Additionally, drilling a small diameter hole before putting in the screw tends to help the screw stay straight since it will be less likely to start eating into wood on the side of the hole
The bit I'm using determines what drill I use. I'm not going to put a hole saw or speed bore on an impact when the other drill can go through timber or steel faster and without overheating my impact. Definitely use the impact for drill bits though, they work so much better on an impact
I found that 23 bit set for $14.95 at Home Depot last summer, and the smaller set was still $25! I had to look twice to be sure my eyes weren't deceiving me, and then I bought two sets. Good bits. Not the best, but very convenient.
Impact driver won't replace the drill. Now that drills have clutches they won't become obsolete. I use impact driver for automotive. And clutch drill for all other projects.
Edgar Bravo I agree that a clutch is important but some impact drivers have technology that can achieve the same results. For example, there are 3 and 4 speed impact drivers so you can turn down the power to give yourself precise control of the power. Milwaukee is really taking the lead in innovation with their new features that allow you to connect the tool to your phone via Bluetooth and precisely dial in the exact amount of torque you want. I can see that having the potential of replacing the clutch on a drill if the software is able to limit the torque as good as it claims.
David Davis Milwaukee is working on impact drivers that you can set how many ftlb exactly you want like a torque wrench. If they succeed and it is accurate, there will be no need for a clutch
@@Brandonjraw Get a small 5-6mm disk magnet and glue it into the chuck. The magnet will completely eliminate the back and forth play which is in my experience the main culprit for wobble. The small side play it has will only be of consequence where tolerances need to be perfect in which case you won't be drilling freehand or with a cordless drill regardless.
It is ok to do this because the output shaft is not directly connected to the motor. It winds up a spring that spins the hammers and hits the output shaft. And these bits were specifically designed for drilling metal with impact drivers so the motor will be fine
They’re fairly inexpensive so I wouldn’t bother sharpening them. I’ve been using mine for a while now and I haven’t noticed any significant dullness. But both drill bits are titanium coated so it’s pretty hard to sharpen without damaging the coating. They’ll last plenty long though
This guy is smoking some really good stuff. The clutch on the drill is to adjust the screw depth and as you said for providing a stop point if the drill bit binds up. The impact driver was invented to tighten up screws and break them free, it was not really invented in terms of kickback control, that was just a side effect. Yeah the impact driver has more RPM, but it is still going to get smoked by a drill when impacting. But no, impact drivers cant replace drills. Also for really long screws your impact driver wont do anything, the screw will just take all the energy you put into it. Also this isnt budget, these hex shaft drill bits cost more.
Not true. Because of the high torque and hammering function, it makes breaking drill indexes very poasible. I had a milwaukee drill index break inside my makita impact drill hex chuck. Had to take it in to get worked on. Ill never uae and impact driver for drilling holes ever again
john tran I feel your pain. I still use the clutch on my drill to ensure that I don’t over tighten screws, but I can still do that pretty accurately with an impact driver too. Thanks for watching!
without even looking it up i highly doubt the impact driver was invented to stop the kickback effect. i dont think they were that big of sooks back in the day. pretty sure it was made to get more tourqe
The whole made ya look ok sign doesnt really have the same effect when is in a video your already watching unless you do it somewhere on screen in the background...
Budget Tool Reviews ummmmmmm dewalts been making them for years and I think malitas been making them for a while too. I’m not sure if they are the gold Coated ones though.
crunch9876 I don’t think Makita makes impact drill bits. DeWalt does but I don’t think they’re Impact rated like these Milwaukee’s are. The DeWalt ones are just like regular drill bits on a 1/4” shank
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Just to add something else… The primary function of the adjustable clutch on a drill isn’t to keep it from twisting in your hand. It’s to prevent over tightening of things. It’s really easy to destroy things like plastic anchors by driving the screw to hard or fast.
not to mention the unbearable impact noise
Thank you. Exactly the info I was looking for
Got me with the ball gazer and a Michael Scott "That's what she said" within in the first 5 minutes of me watching your channel. Needless to say I subscribed !
Nice video. Bought only an impact driver to save $150. Was looking to learn if using an impact driver to drill holes does damage to the driver. Also, my $30 drill gifted 20 years ago has a hex shank... love the ease of use. Thanks for the video, gave me peace of mind for my driver.
Once I used an impact drill, I als pretty much stopped using an actual drill. At home I have only an impact drill with the proper drill bits. I live the power and compactness of them.
Nice review, I still use my drill for any holes larger than 1/2 inch, just seems to work better.
Chris P I would agree. Anything bigger than 1/2” and the 1/4” shank might snap off when impacting. Thanks for watching!
Impacts had come a long way but Drill is still king.
A drill is basicly anything. You don't need special designed Bits or drills.
Your drill screws, drills, can mix paint, twist wire can take a metal or poly brush for cleaning whatever.
Your drill can replace the hand bar of your car jack.
Last week i used my drill for turning 500 feet of fishing line.
You can use polishing pads and so on.
Impact drivers have way more torque for long screws or screws into very dense material.
Tried using an impact for drilling 1/2 holes and the bit got stuck for months
Ain't nothing more satisfying than the screaming of an impact driver. Some people hate the racket but I actively seek out things to drill just to get that satisfying hammer sound. My wish is that I can someday impact drill things professionally, except I could work whenever I wanted, and make a million dollars per year. Also unlimited vacation days and maybe on a beach somewhere.
The other day I was drilling out some holes with a spade bit using my 20v Dewalt drill and my wrist got janked so many times. Threw the bit into my 20v impact and it blasted through effortlessly, and not only that but it was a cleaner exit as well. As long as it fits in the impact's chuck, I don't see much of a reason to use the drill unless I'm using an actual drill bit and it's a more delicate situation.
You can still use the impact drill bit in the regular drill too it will save you time from using only the impact driver and always having to change from a drill bit to putting on a bit to drive screws that way both tools get used and save you time and get the job done faster
stub quick change adapter on a drill
Both tools have their place at a work site. The impact ready drill bits are shorter which limits the practical use when drilling in wood. I have to say this specific set is my favorite when drilling in metal. I too use impact for it and these bits are nice and sharp. However I don't really use this on wood. Again, the length of the drill bits and less control makes a drill still needed tool.
Also I think a major difference is the level of noise. A drill is near silent and the impact can be loud enough to ring your ears. Might not matter in most situations but if you're working at night at a client's house then a classic drill is the way to go.
That’s a great point. They actually now make impact drivers that instead of having metal hammers hit a metal anvil, it impacts into oil so it’s extremely quiet
@@korbano That's true, I haven't tried one yet but I've heard that hydraulic drivers are a bit of a hit or miss, they are usually slower and less powerful than their full contact counterparts. I'm still trying to get a hold of one to try it, if it's really that quiet than maybe it's worth the power sacrifice.
I'm still a firm believer in using all 3 tools for their intended purposes. You can use an impact driver for drilling metal or wood but a drill is always better. You can use a drill for driving screws but an impact driver is always better. You can also use a drill for drilling masonary but a hammer drill is always better.
I don’t think it will ever completely replace a drill. A hammer drill does something completely different.
Also, I think it’s best to have a drill and a driver. I don’t like having to keep changing bits. I like to just keep a drill bit in my drill and a driver bit in my driver.
Besides, it’s usually more cost effective to buy the drill and driver as a set because you usually get two batteries and a charger.
It'd be amusing to see if the larger drill bits will fit in the Bosch Freak impact driver/wrench.
"thats what she said" hahaha classic
Really good video, young man. Keep up the great work.
Looks like you bought the 23 piece kit but only have 15 bits?
Good video. Helped me make the decision to buy an impact driver.
Thanks.
Did you read the narration, or do you always talk like a robot?
01:54 There are hex shank drill bits on the market.
02:58 and there it is: an *epiphany*
Got a new brushless dewalt combo drill and impact. The impact has way too much wobble to hold a drill straight and true.
BTR that was an awesome video because I have that hammer drill and impact driver and the Milwaukee titanium bits. Peace brother
Makita man glad you like it. Thanks for watching!
Great vid. I got the same Makitas and bits
Drills will always be needed. Try doing delicate work with an impact. Driving long, large diameter screws/bolts are actually faster with a drill
If you can use impact, you should use impact. The problem is that you can't use impact for larger holes. Trying to use impact on a 1-3/8" step drill absolutely does not work because it stops spinning and the tiny impacts are not enough to cut the metal. It feels like impact stops working somewhere between 1/2 and 3/4 inches of hole diameter.
If you turn the music down or cut it off I could here the driver better
I still dont get why they even make conventional drills anymore, my impact does the same things if not more than my conventional drill does.. my brushless subcompact sits on my tool box at home while I'm on the job
I have zero reason to own a sub compact or even a compact drill, I have a heavy duty hammer drill and an impact driver, the drill is nice for holes like 12mm through steel, and concrete drilling(I'll use an SDS preferably though if there's one around)
But once I get more hex shank drill bits I'll use my driver even more
If you are not a tradesman or contractor (if you live in the US) and want a tool for around the house i would recomend an impact driver rather than a drill.
5 sec into this video i knew this dude had no idea what he was talking about
What a great explanation. Thank you
Carlos Henrique glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
You should not be using impact unless you need to. The problem with the drill motor are more often the operators; everyone just attempts to bully anything in their path. Impacts are good for the likes of sheet metal, tapcon, maybe spade bits. Personally, I think it’s always worthwhile to pilot followed by countersink before using the impact on stuff like decks. The Milwaukee ti index is of good quality, but they are going to be only as durable and effective as the operator. I always use my drill motors more.
Cal L I believe you mistyped meaning you should never use a drill. Anyone using a drill for a job that an impact can do more efficiently, safely and reliably is just being stubborn at this point. Time to join the 21st century
No I did not mistype. As someone that owns 5 modern BL impacts and even more drills, Impact has places such as sheet metal, tapcons insertion, and sloppy framing/decking (no one is going to mind if you pilot a no 8 into a post). However, most of the time that kind of power is not necessary, and undesirable. Any piloted hole should be easy for most drill/driver motor to push a screw into (you obviously can use a impact, but the last bit gets sketch and you risk of cracking things). Even drywall/deck screw-guns are just glorified drill/drivers. People need to understand how to use the clutch and well as the trigger while not blasting everything in sight. I always try to pilot at least the top piece, I don’t believe in brute force most of the times - the joint becomes fundamentally different in nature.
Cal L ah, new impacts have 3 modes. No reason to have a drill
Actually some have 4. I am not sure why the insistence on using impacts. They both have their place, they are different. Often drill is more preferred by myself.
Cal L No insistence it’s just simply a better tool. It’s like using a circular saw to cut trim when you have a mitre saw. There’s just nothing that a drill does better in mine and many others opinions
hi what exact model is your makita set? and do you recommend it? thank
I am quickly finding myself using my drill less and less and only using my impact drivers. At some point I almost wonder if the normal drills will kind of just an accessory instead of a “must have” essential tool.
I like having both. I hate fiddling with bits when drilling pilots then screws so i have my drill bit on my drill and my driver on the impact.
Do you really need to drill a hole to drive the screw in or is it enough just to use the driver to drive the scroews with the need to drill a hole first?
RoyMcAvoy you don’t need to drill a hole but sometimes the wood will crack if you don’t
In this case there was a copper plate between the wood and the screw, a screw designed for wood won't like metal very much (Since it's just a thin copper plate it would probably still work but it would be less precise and would probably bend or break the metal around it quite a bit). Additionally, drilling a small diameter hole before putting in the screw tends to help the screw stay straight since it will be less likely to start eating into wood on the side of the hole
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Good video i to since the 1990s was using a drill for everything I got my first impact driver
We aren't gonna make it...
its pretty shameful that drills and hammer drills still exist
The bit I'm using determines what drill I use. I'm not going to put a hole saw or speed bore on an impact when the other drill can go through timber or steel faster and without overheating my impact.
Definitely use the impact for drill bits though, they work so much better on an impact
I found that 23 bit set for $14.95 at Home Depot last summer, and the smaller set was still $25! I had to look twice to be sure my eyes weren't deceiving me, and then I bought two sets. Good bits. Not the best, but very convenient.
Impact driver won't replace the drill. Now that drills have clutches they won't become obsolete.
I use impact driver for automotive.
And clutch drill for all other projects.
Edgar Bravo I agree that a clutch is important but some impact drivers have technology that can achieve the same results. For example, there are 3 and 4 speed impact drivers so you can turn down the power to give yourself precise control of the power. Milwaukee is really taking the lead in innovation with their new features that allow you to connect the tool to your phone via Bluetooth and precisely dial in the exact amount of torque you want. I can see that having the potential of replacing the clutch on a drill if the software is able to limit the torque as good as it claims.
Why did the $20.00 set have a $75.00 price tag?
What do you mean?
I must have meant that question for a different reviewer. You have my appology.
Now I 've got to figure out who I meant to ask that question.
Its not a $75 price tag. Its a $75 value. If you buy each bit separately it would cost $75. In a set its cheaper
Impact driver do not have precision chucks that drills do plain and simple so will not replace drills.
David Davis Milwaukee is working on impact drivers that you can set how many ftlb exactly you want like a torque wrench. If they succeed and it is accurate, there will be no need for a clutch
@@korbano He's talking about chuck run out. All impact drivers have alot of chuck wobble.
@@Brandonjraw Get a small 5-6mm disk magnet and glue it into the chuck. The magnet will completely eliminate the back and forth play which is in my experience the main culprit for wobble. The small side play it has will only be of consequence where tolerances need to be perfect in which case you won't be drilling freehand or with a cordless drill regardless.
How .uch are the set of shockwave bits?
Is drilling in metal not ruining the motor of the impact driver ?
It is ok to do this because the output shaft is not directly connected to the motor. It winds up a spring that spins the hammers and hits the output shaft. And these bits were specifically designed for drilling metal with impact drivers so the motor will be fine
@@korbano thank you
@@korbano is there any bit for drill in concrete ?
שמעון לוי יוסף not for impact drivers. You would need a hammer drill for that.
@@korbano i found that there is bit that drills in concrete
Not the best but can do it
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Whats the impact driver name? Ty
Why the music dude? I'm gone...
How do you sharpen those Milwaukee drill bits?
They’re fairly inexpensive so I wouldn’t bother sharpening them. I’ve been using mine for a while now and I haven’t noticed any significant dullness. But both drill bits are titanium coated so it’s pretty hard to sharpen without damaging the coating. They’ll last plenty long though
This guy is smoking some really good stuff.
The clutch on the drill is to adjust the screw depth and as you said for providing a stop point if the drill bit binds up.
The impact driver was invented to tighten up screws and break them free, it was not really invented in terms of kickback control, that was just a side effect.
Yeah the impact driver has more RPM, but it is still going to get smoked by a drill when impacting.
But no, impact drivers cant replace drills. Also for really long screws your impact driver wont do anything, the screw will just take all the energy you put into it.
Also this isnt budget, these hex shaft drill bits cost more.
The music detracts from the video.
Hole crap the 23 piece is now like 40 bucks...
Agreed.
Not true. Because of the high torque and hammering function, it makes breaking drill indexes very poasible. I had a milwaukee drill index break inside my makita impact drill hex chuck. Had to take it in to get worked on. Ill never uae and impact driver for drilling holes ever again
TheJustReyes were they Milwaukee hex drill bits specifically designed for impact drivers?
I wish no company brand makes any impact drill bits!!! 👿😡. Cause now my damn drill is less and less essential compare to before.
john tran I feel your pain. I still use the clutch on my drill to ensure that I don’t over tighten screws, but I can still do that pretty accurately with an impact driver too. Thanks for watching!
without even looking it up i highly doubt the impact driver was invented to stop the kickback effect. i dont think they were that big of sooks back in the day. pretty sure it was made to get more tourqe
Milwaukee is Power an Quality 💪
The whole made ya look ok sign doesnt really have the same effect when is in a video your already watching unless you do it somewhere on screen in the background...
Get rid of the music and thank me later
Music was loud and completely unnecessary.
Lol y don't u use the Makita gold bits, they r much better and have a long life👍👍
AbeO DEZ because they don’t make impact drill bits. Only Milwaukee does
Budget Tool Reviews ummmmmmm dewalts been making them for years and I think malitas been making them for a while too. I’m not sure if they are the gold
Coated ones though.
crunch9876 I don’t think Makita makes impact drill bits. DeWalt does but I don’t think they’re Impact rated like these Milwaukee’s are. The DeWalt ones are just like regular drill bits on a 1/4” shank
That music is unbearable, damn!!!!!