DRIVE SCREWS WITH EASE! (Most People Don't Know The Difference...Bit Holders/Nut Drivers!)
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DRIVE SCREWS WITH EASE! (Most People Don't Know The Difference...Bit Holders/Nut Drivers!)
There are hundreds of different bit attachments out there. They aren't all useful...and many people confuse the basic ones! This short video from The Honest Carpenter will help you keep them straight.
Nut Drivers are essentially short socket bits for driving hex-headed fasteners. They chuck straight into drills and drivers.
Bit Holders are drill/driver attachments that hold various insert bits. They have a deep pocket, but allow you to change out insert bits quickly.
Locking Bit Holders have a magnet inside, plus a C-ring clamp in the collar, which help keep insert bits more secure.
Quick Release Locking Bit Holders have an internal spring which can clamp or release an insert bit. They're great for keeping bits in the holder, while also preventing bit jamming.
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Six minutes and three seconds ago I had no idea how much I didn’t know. Thanks Ethan, that was useful and useable information 👍
You’re welcome! I appreciate you watching 😄
You skipped one type of bit holder. The one with extending sleeve to hold your screw straight when screwing it in. You pop your bit in put a screw on it extend the sleeve and you can screw in without risking your fingers if screw ever slips.
I’ve covered it before in a whole video! I’m adding that one to the newsletter. 🙂 I like drive guides, but just don’t use them quite as much as the other bit holders.
I find these very useful for long stainless steel Screws .
Ah, that's what that is! Finally someone tells me, lol. Been wondering what kind of weird bit that is supposed to be (I have a standard DeWalt bit set). Cheers. :)
I'm not a fan of these, over time the sleeve can bind up on collar and get wedged tight especially in dusty environments.
@@BaumisMagicalWorld I have exsctly the same set. Belive me this bit is finger saver.
Hello. Who knew such a seemingly simple thing could be so complex & sooo many different styles. WOW!! If you’re not learning something new everyday, you’re not trying hard enough. Thank you.
Another advantage to the quick release bit holders is the fact that heat won't weaken their holding force like it does with a magnetic bit holder. I was using a titanium bit in a magnetic holder in an impact driver and the bit ended up getting extremely hot which demagnetized the holder.
Dang, I never thought about that. Good point-I’m pinning this comment! I have indeed had tools get super hot when working continuously in summer conditions. 👍
Titanium is not magnetic
@@MDonovanit may be an alloy or they might have just been using it as a temporary measure.
Neodymium magnets lose their magnetism around 180-200° Fahrenheit. @@TheHonestCarpenter
@@MDonovan True, but the steel base of the hex titanium bits are. Most of my bits have the hex end on them so they can be used in either.
The Carpenter videos are the best videos ever seriously I’ve learned more about power tools and everything else and how to use certain things in my line of work since I work on bikes, but I also like to restore furniture as well though I have minimal contracting skills/carpentry skills since most of my work is mechanical, but still got it. It’s Handy. If only my dad was still alive if he had been on TH-cam more, I think he would love this channel rest in peace Roger David Helgren (1953-2022).
I still get confused with all the different types, so thanks for this video. Every little 'bit' of information helps!!
He's a extension of knowledge
I have been using the Dewalt locking bit holder(I have about a dozen) for over a year. One of my favorite accessories...
all these years I've used whatever I had handy ,after watching your video I'll save a lot of frustration thanks so much
Thank you for making this video.
As someone who didn’t grow up in a handy home, this helps explain my confusion around these holders.
You taught an old Carpenter a new trick. Thank you. I’m not the trades anymore, but I still really enjoyed following your channel
your being serious?
Thank you so much for this video. I just purchased the DeWalt quick release bit holder. It's exactly what I need for hassle-free drilling.
Great to hear! I think it'll serve you well. They wear out in a year or two with a lot of heavy usage, but they're so cheap that they're very easily replaced...and well worth the cost! :)
they are not for drilling
@@johnbower thats probably just his friend its already got 1000 dislikes the pos comments seem fabbed
Yep - I have done a ton of DYI and never stopped to think of these differences. Very helpful content.
Wiha 71496 SlimFix 1/4" Bit Holder is my favorite. Slim as a traditional bit holder but locks with no slop or issues removing the bit later.
I love this channel! I always learn something here and being 64 I’ve been using tools since I was 15. The videos are simple yet consistent and very informative. Thank you very much.😊
Good video...bits and tools sure have come a long way since I was a carpenter. I did steel and stick stud framing and I remember having to spend money on levels, power cords, tool belts and screw guns. Learned a lot but my tool shed is still filled with tools, some new and some ancient! Cheers!
My favorite bit holder is for when you are putting a screw into something expensive, such as a subwoofer driver. Slip here and you might have just spent $1k (or more). The holders I like for this have a sliding sleeve that hides all but the tip of the screw. Then the even if the screw breaks, toggles or cams out it stays vertical and doesn't break other things.
This use case is perfect for stepping away from an electric driver altogether. Never forget how to use a manual screw driver. I would never use an electric driver when playing with speaker units. You need full control, especially since you are playing with big magnets that can rip the bit out of a driver holder before you get the thing close.
I love the real locking bit holders! If I need a tool to pull the bit out of my holder, that's perfect for me! When they're not tight & locked in the holder they fall out too often or get stuck to the screw & come out of holder. I like the locking ones without the large release collar for the reasons you stated, they just get in the way too much. I use some Milwaukee bit holders(in all my DeWalts) I found that have that ring inside and strong magnets that hold on tight to bit. The reason we use bit holders over longer 3", 6", etc individual bits is the cost involved. You basically throw away the whole long bit just cause the very tip wears out with normal use - screws are hard. Yes I did use & like the longer ones before but when you're doing alot of screwing all day, you change worn out bits when they start wearing and slip(especially Phillips #2). I just keep a few different 3" locking bit holders with my commonly used bit tips in them (t20, t25, #2phillips) on me in pouch at all times plus a couple other bits - a (swapable)1/4"- 5/16"nut driver, a 1/8" quick-change drill bit, plus some 2" quick change bits - t30, t40, #1sq, #2sq(robertson), & #3phillip. Anyways for the people complaining that they can't get the bits out easily, that is the whole point of these locking bit holders! I'd rather have to use pliers to pull the bit out than have it falling out & sticking in every screwhead I put in! Once you deal with that struggle, especially when it falls out of bit holder while you're high up on a ladder and bit falls out rolls down roof and falls into Never-NeverLand, gone forever! Kinda like when you drop a bolt, nut or a (10mm)socket when you're working under the hood of your vehicle and it never hits the ground. You know its just gone forever, it just falls into another demention, a parallel universe, a bottomless black hole🕳️
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Super handy! Only when you need to turn in a screw in tight space, you quickly encounter the thickness of this bit holder. Or are there also narrower versions of this available?
Good one Ethan....lot of info here I didn't realize until well into my career.....although I'm still guilty of occasionally throwing the impact driver bit into a quick release holder
Your impact driver has a quick release collar already, so what exactly are you achieving by using a quick release insert over just purchasing impact bits?
Quick release bit holders are not a new thing. I've used them for at least 15 years. And I have always hated them almost as much as the "old" style. They wear out and start loosing the bit after some use, and they can also jam the bit. Now I only use what you call power bits? The longer ones that you put directly into the chuck of the impact driver. Never lost grip of a bit in the chuck. And you get a more nimble tool.
Super useful. Thanks for helping me not make a rookie mistake at the hardware store.
One note though, drastic is not the same as dramatic. If you don't care, and your audience doesn't care, then this is moot. But sometimes being deliberate about word choice can be helpful.
Really liked your demos, super helpful illustrations.
Sucks when you're trying to be smarter than the first post then make a bad error. Words are hard. Or should I say though?
Tough audience bro.
@@bertblue9683 eh, fair point.
Important video. For the last couple of years, I have been using that thin Dewalt quick release bit holder. By four, it is the best bit holder. Available on Amazon.
I’ve driven a lot of screws in my career. All the way from #2 to #18. I think I’d add a couple of things to your excellent list. 1, stop using drills as drivers. Use a real driver aka screw shooter for driving screws. 2, stop using impact drivers for driving everything. They have a specific use case. 3, try using a long bit holder. 6” is my preferred. The length helps slippage a lot. I still drive a lot of slotted screws, working on old stuff, and slipping out of the slot can cause a lot of damage. Thanks for the great video!
Hi over there. I tried a whole lot of bit-holders. I finally ended with the Wera Rapidaptor. This is by far the best bit-holder you can get! Period!
Yeah, professionally I only use locking bit holders & those slim DeWalt ones are the best like you said for size. I don’t have any issues with impact rated hex bits getting jammed in them though & I use these all day every day but I also always remove bits with 2 hands so may be why. However I do believe I have experienced that issue with the other style DeWalt locking bit holder you showed in this video. Imo this is the direction forward with all bit tools including ratchet screwdrivers, 90 degree & offset attachments, etc. I do have a locking kobalt ratchet screwdriver but it’s kinda clunky… waiting for a good one to come out… will take suggestions if anyone reads this & knows of one
If you like that dewalt one wiha cerofix slim is even thinner and sold at alot of lowes. I find it's best if you only have a few sizes to just swap out bit holders keep them loaded up say under 4 sizes. If your really looking for a slim bit the Japanese double ended bits really take the cake. They have a vessel line that works in us drivers as well but flipping the bit around (especially slotted/philips) is very quick. If you don't want to go down that road milwaukee has a set of 3 ph/sl square t25 in a set at local hds. When doing the work you do philips 2 and t25 is ridiculously common from drywall to deck screws and milwaukee and vessel make great ones (vessel is better made in japan). It's what I keep in my m12 surge and triple hammer as the default bit.
Yours looks different than mine, but my "bulkier" quick release has the collar up a little higher and has a circular magnet that will actually hold the screw/fastener for me. It's not great for every job, as you pointed out, but for general use it makes things much easier.
i love that dewalt one. it is great if you have a minimal setup with only one drill and you want to say, switch between a drill bit and a driver bit repeatedly. i bought several and gave them away as christmas presents, but i was surprised that almost nopony shared my enthusiasm. i think you have small or weak hands the pull down release action might be too difficult? I'm not really sure. anyway, i love them
Thanks for this video… I’ve long realized there were differences but hadn’t taken the time to figure them out. This was quick, concise, and I feel a tad smarter after having watched it.
My connex quick release can really get stuck at times. One to avoid. ;)
....just bought the Dewalt. Heavenly, thanks for the tip!
Great video! I've been using these for years as a DIY guy and I did think they were (mostly) interchangeable. Thanks for making this clear!!
You're welcome! With so many models and types out there, it's easy to overlook some of their details.
20+ years in business and I never use bit holders. One of my most despised accessories. I'm very happy having 20 different stand alone bits for my array of impact drivers.
I was wondering why i worked side by side with a contractor in remodeling for 5 years and he never taught me this! It's probably because HE didn't know!😂 Thank you for sharing what seems like the basics, but we all really need to know!
You’re welcome! Often we’re left to kind of piece stuff like this together over the years 😅
A contractor wouldn’t use small bits in a bit holder except very rarely. Use the correct impact standard bit.
I can relate to this! I'm always asking questions but never get the answers. I've learned so much from this channel!
He didn't teach you because it was largely irrelevant in the real world vs some guy short of things to make videos about.
I was just waiting for a video like this! I was so confused about the different bit holders and being a new hobby woodworker I already had a few items in my Amazon cart but didn’t know which or what to buy! Turns out- I had the wrong items! Thank you for the video and the links! I really appreciate it!!!
Glad to help, Dori! Sign up for the newsletter over at: thehonestcarpenter.com. I’ll have some more helpful info this week! 😄
Small tip for jams; Ballistol. I've found it works great not just for ¼" bits but also 1/2 sockets. Just a small dab with a Q-tip and you'll be able to remove it without excess force.
Also helps clearing away build-up overtime whether it's drywall dust, wood dust, etc.
Thank you. Been doing carpentry for 60 + years and can always learn more.
Thanks, Donald! I love hearing from other carpenters 🙂
Locking bit holders with a sleeve to release are the most sturdy ones, but they often dont fit inside deeper narrow holes ass good as the ones with just a pushbutton. The Dewalt show here with the sleeve under the holder and in the same diameter as the holder is very nice to see. Do the come in longer variants as well? Like 6-8 inches??
Alright guys. Does it make a difference if you go with a longer holder vs a shorter one? I know they have the long 12” ones or the 6” but does it matter?
Ty Sir! Novice here, Thank you for the informative video. Know what I'm doing wrong now. Enjoy Dewalt as well. All the best to you and your family.
Thank you! I have a circular saw video coming up next week that might also be of some help. 🙂
I’ve been using similar bit holders for for a couple of years and this is unique and handy.
These are interesting but I've had a lot of USB cables go bad in a relatively short amount of time. I'll need to look at the Amazon reviews to see what is bringing them down to four stars as they're a bit expensive.
Thanks as usual for the great review!
It’s a good point, mercenary. Quality ain’t quite what it used to be on anything. 😅
@@TheHonestCarpenter Sigh... Got to love it when TH-cam posts my comment to the wrong video in my watch list!
I did watch your video too and bought two of the Bosch quick change adapters. I've used a super robust one from Milwaukee and the one from DeWalt.
The Milwaukee one is built like a tank but doesn't fit in a lot of places.
DeWalt works great until it doesn't. Eventually that locking sleeve is going to fail on you.
Thanks for the video and sorry for any confusion!
I have so many different ones. I now know which ones to get rid of and which ones keep. Thanks!
Thanks for explaining the differences. I use a bit holder on my impact driver, but it came with a Nut Driver I barely use at all. 👷🏿♂️
Sure thing, W! I’m always glad to have a few nut drivers around when the situation calls for them. But like you, I mostly rely on my boy holders. I always have a few around (due to my tendency to lose things).
Good tips, thanks.
Interesting that when referencing a potential problem with a cheap bit holder, a Makita model was shown. Are they slipping on quality? They used to be known as one of best.
Those were actually just overseas knock-offs, Don! Kind of generic ones. I don’t have Makita’s version, but I use their circular saws a whole lot still 😁
Nice to know. As always, use the correct tool for the job. Thanks for sharing.
Good information to have. The QR bit holders are a G_d-send. Have almost forever used a Nut driver with a Bit holder to get extra clearance. I have one of those pesky knurled QR holders that I really don't care for at all. It's OK with some drill bits, but overall is not cool. Thanks!
I feel you, steiner! I love the concept of the big QR heads...but the functionality is just problematic so often. 👍
Thank you so much for this I had no idea that any of these things were a thing for power tools!
Great improvement!
I would almost be offended if I had to sink screws with a regular hand drill! LOL! The impact drivers have changed the game for the better!
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Bob! If a fastener is over 3/4”, I’m driving it with an impact driver too 😂
Thanks Ethan, good tip. I have often had problems with my bits staying in the holder. I didn't know there was such a good solution.
Thanks David! I’m glad it helps 😄
Best quick release holder i know is from WERA. great quality tools. my first one hold for 10 yrs with about 500-1000 screws every working day
Yes!! I got a acetate screwdriver pulled out the metal shank as to just have the handle and then tapped in a locking bit holder. Like the best screwdriver to have now
Now that’s an idea! 😁
What great info! I never knew the difference. I just grabbed what was handy. Thanks a million for the education!!
Thank you for the educational video. I'm using all these tools and bits but don't know the actual purpose of them
yeah, I used Wera (bulky quick release) by accident (not intentionally) and it was the happiest of accidents ever happend to me. Wouldn't replace it with anything else, except this less bulky dewalt one. maybe. :)
I like using the bit holders that have the screw guide sleeve. Works good for long screws.
The DeWalt bit holder with the lock ring is something I should check in on
Love the internet, so much to learn, so quickly well done THG, now I have learned something useful today.
I LOVE bit holders with a slidable guide sleeve for self drilling screws on metal. That way you dont slip off the screw
3:13 Literally had this happen two weeks ago. Destroyed the bit holder pulling the bit out, because that "wire" came out too. For the record, it found its way into my collection. I never bought it. But good to know there are better versions out there..
In Europe we don't usually use 1/4" hex head screws but 1/4" bits are the only insert/power bit type I know. Interestingly, this prevents people from mistaking nut drivers for bit holders because the drivers are either a little to small or way too big. So yay metric once again?
Also, some locking bit holders require you to unlock them for both inserting and removing the bit while some only need you to unlock them for bit removal. My overall favourite is the Wera Rapidaptor which just works in a mechanically satisfying way. It's a bit bulky around the front but if I ever need to get into the really tight spaces, I have long bits that do the job even better than the skinniest bit holder could.
Wera is my favorite locking bit holder so far. I prefer to keep the bit holder as short as possible. Impact drivers tend to wobble the bits more, and the wobble is worse the longer your bit is. And I can always grab a longer bit extension if needed.
Have the slim DeWalt.. or had. The release collar got lose after a few weeks of use making it virtually useless..It is crimped around a narrow knurled ring that then is your only option to release the bit.. For now I have a permanent Torx 20 bit in mine.. Basically just a long T20 bit. But agree.. quick release impact rated are the way to go - maybe I just got a bad one on this one.
I never this. lol. Great video! Learn something new every day. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Most of mine are the types where you have to grab the collar near the tip and pull forward. This can be awkward as you either need 3 hands or have to reposition your hand from holding the power tool and hold both the power tool and the collar, or use your legs to temporarily hold it, or just put the power tool down. Spring types suck the most. Sliding mechanisms like the CentroFix are by far the best, but the CentroFix itself doesn't work with short bits.
Very good video, informative, succinct, well filmed, very good sound. quite an example
Muy buen video, informativo, sucinto, bien filmado, muy buen sonido. Todo un ejemplo
Huh, who knew the details? Thanks for the lesson, very informative and to the point. You are the “honest informative carpenter”!
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Thanks for the advice regarding slimline quick-release bit holders. I'm a Bosch fan but the chunky head can't get in there when I'm repairing appliances.
I've been looking for a bit holder with a deep pocket that will hold screw extraction bits. Do you have any advice for me, please?
My personal favourite is the simple one piece magnetic bit holder preferably with a broached shaft. Anything with a press fitted shaft into the collet seems to fail for me over time with an impact driver, under the torque the shaft can start to twist in the collet. Simple and strong and with a decent magnet in them I don't leave bits behind very often.
I can't recommend enough the Wiha 76889 impact bit set, it's so much nicer than those big plastic bit sets. It's a small pocketable steel tin, with basically every 1" bit you will ever need. It has two sets of phillips, 1 set of pozidriv and robertson, a set of metric and standard hex, a set of torx, and even a 1/4" socket adapter. The tin also comes with their locking bit holder, and a mini ratchet for getting into tight spaces.
Wiha is really making a lot of cool stuff these days. I’ll check it out! I’ve been meaning to feature their stuff for a while now. 🙂
I bought my first impact and drill set this year, and accidentally bought that dewalt bit holder haha who would have thought thats awesome!
I got a retractable one from HF that is deep enough that it has that locking ring but shallow enough that the magnet will hold those sheet metal screws with the rubber gasket. Makes putting those screws in really easy. Cost around $4
This is very helpful, most of the information I knew, but I did not know about the quick release bit holders. Those seem intriguing, I have a magnetic one that I’ve used for years but I think I’ll check out the quick release. Thanks.
I will stick to my WERA bit holder as been the best since its release & always will be
This is super useful information and I learned a lot. I will absolutely subscribe to the newsletter.
Never knew DeWalt had a slim line quick release. I run into the same issue with the bulkier ones. These would be great, thanks for the info!
Thx for the update ... agree, the bulky head didn't impress me 😮 😊
Yah, just not quite as useful!
Wow, actually learned something on this video. I thought I knew all this. Thanks!
I use my locking holder as an extension sometimes
Same here! I kind of neglected to mention that-it’ll just get you better reach sometimes!
Thanks very much for the information, Ethan. I didn't know about the new ones. 😃😃😃❤️❤️❤️
The right tool for the job to make it easier.
Instead of using pliers to get bits out of bit holders, just tap with something metal against the bit holder. It works every time
Totally agree, that's what I use, you can't beat it.
Now I'm going to want a 3-in-1 in my Christmas Stocking 😊
I’ve had the dewalt quick release extension fall apart. Use the Bosh one instead.
I’m looking for the dewalt 3-in-1 quick release bit holder now. However all the specs are saying for impact tools. Can I use this with a regular drill?
Love this channel and have been learning from the honest carpenter for years. But just realized he could also be a stunt double for Johnny Lawrence from Cobra Kai!
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So! If I have to release the bit from a bit holder how is that different from locking a longer bit into the actual driver. I much prefer a normal bit over a short bit with a bit holder.
I've had the quick release collars jam on me. What I've found is that grabbing the collar with pliers and rotating them until they knock loose is enough to get them working again.
Great clarity! This is very useful info, and you explained it simply. Thank you 👊🏻
locking bit holders tend to spontaneously disassemble in an impact driver. Talking about the slim ones, which won't take up so much space.
As a tradesman who has been using tools on the job for over 50 years I can only say that I never consider buying dewalt I always buy good quality tools.
I didn't know the difference! Thank you (as always)!!!
That super thin Dewalt looks like a winner to make the 1" bits useful, again. I usually hate those and use the standard locking 2", instead.
I had not heard of these new bit holders but I will certainly check them out.
If the bit gets stuck in the holder, do not use pliers to pull it out, as this may damage the bit. Just tap the holder on the table and it will usually come loose. Repeat a few times or with more force if it doesn't work on the first try.
I had no idea! So helpful. Thanks.
I never knew about quick release bit holders, and now I'll buy myself one.
I didn't know about the C rings in the holder....thanks you! Cheers1
Good presentation. I didn't know about the quick release holders. Next time in Home Depot, I'll pick one up.
Super helpful to have one around!
@@TheHonestCarpenter I have magnet ones but I hate it when they don't stay in.