Only if they have somewhere to charge, land is expensive in 15 minute cities, well it is now, but greenies that won't do a days work for a days pay will get priced out and things will change.
@@TomSmith-cv8hk knowing the powers to be they will assign those who don't have a job or have a job in a company that they don't want to see trading anymore, a place in the big warehouses with smile on the side of them.
My friend has one to deliver fixings to local tradies - He bought it cheap used, cheaper than an diesel van (which seem to be at a premium in the south west) and runs it for 3 p a mile.
@@lnomgaudas1307 What's imaginary? We all know (well you lot might not) you can get cheap electricity for 7.5p a kWh on Octopus Energy, and you know how this bloke is always wanging on about depreciation, well that actually helps if you are buying something that's a few years old - decent business decision in my book . Sorry it couldn't be me, but I don't have to deliver anything.
I regularly drive from Liverpool to Helston, Cornwall, 380 miles. I fill up my tank (£110), and off we go. Plenty of short comfort breaks as my wife has a serious back condition. On a clear run we can do the run in under 8hrs and still have half a tank of fuel even when lights, wipers and air con are on! The car is a Jaguar XJ 3ltr diesel. So no range anxiety just plain sailing in luxury. Great vid, crack on son.
I've been retired now for almost ten years but I worked for a national company, we used to bring our vehicles home at night, I had to park away from my address so no chance of charging at home and why should I pay to charge the company vehicle anyway, we used to drive approximately 200 miles a day making 60 + drops on a good day this would take around 12 hours on a bad day 16 hours + . There's no way you could do that in a milkfloat.
You've got me in deep trouble with management, everytime I go passed a milkfloat I say 'Future my arse' an she's getting fed up with it but I just can't help myself. You do make me smile old son keep the video's coming I luv'em and they are cheaper than Jim Davidson on Ustreame.🤣🤣
Which is what would happen in the real world. Tradesmen tend to really load up their vehicles since payload = money. It would be interesting to see how these "commercial vehicles" would cope in a real world situation.
I’m on my second Vivaro - diesel (of course) Can honestly say, I’ve had zero trouble in motoring with my job as an electrician. My stress levels are minimal. No looking at the fuel gauge every five minutes to increase the heart rate and stress (range anxiety I believe) But if as you say 88 mile range is pathetic, would it be lower if fully laden ? Basically they’re garbage.
I drove 295 miles from a town in North Netherlands to the Channel Tunnel nonstop (4 hours 45 minutes) at an average of 61 MPH and 60MPG, then straight the other side straight to Farnborough Hampshire, still had over 200 miles of range. In a 2.0 litre diesel Skoda Octavia.
Yep. That's my take on it too. Was doing a lot of work in Cornwall. Best I got out of it's 180 miles range was 140 miles. That was on a nice day, no heavy weight on the back, no rain, warm weather. On a cold winter's day, with kit, got 95 miles. Future, my arse
There’s been a big scandal of Volkswagen over MPG being vastly overstated, so why aren’t the EV cars having the same court cases being brought against the manufactures ?
Imagine living in a place with temps over 110F (Phoenix, AZ), or under minus 10F (middle of Maine). Both the A/C or the heat chew up tons of electrons just to keep you alive, and the range of an EV is cut in half (or worse). Thanks, but no thanks, Greta.
At Last! I have found a kindred spirit that thinks we are all being taken for fools. Does nobody question the fact that to get around by battery power you have to lug around at least a ton of weight in batteries and when they are completely or nearly empty, the damn things still weight the same, so dead weight. Can people not understand this.
5th gear did a E van test….once they loaded it with a ton of sand….it massively effected the range…even after a hill where it had to go into sports mode….as it struggled to get up a “slope” they quickly put it back into eco….as it hurt the range so much…after 1 “slope” LOL…..
And we all know what the EVangelists will say "you had your headlights on, your had your window wipers on, you charged it wrong, should have got a Tesla van (if they exist) blah, blah, blah"
Hang on a minute. The Gridserve charger said that it was using 100 % net zero electric. How does it do that when the national grid cannot differentiate where the power originated? Are they lying or have they installed an alternative network?
It's a con and I am surprised that trading standards aren't feeling the corporate Gridserve collar. The grid supplies energy from a number of sources including gas, nuclear and, yes, wind/solar. None of them are net zero.
These companies are allowed to use carbon offsets to claim net zero - effectively they pay someone to be able to use their carbon credits - Eon do that as well. Total fraud of course.
Eon next also make this claim, I've said the exact words that you have used to advertising standards agency, now waiting to hear back from them, what do you think they will have to say about it,
Funny you mention that council i work for are replacing the old dispatch vans for them or the smaller partner sized van and some large etransit cage vans to replace the old 2.2 transits. Some vans will stay diesel due to the mileages covered each day. Nobody wants the electric vans but its happening. I did get to test the toyota proace ev and it was nice to drive handled the moors nicely handled the twisty B roads lovely and range was bang on. However driven a hired renault trafic new 2.0 diesel for work and that was better despite being the base model it had DAB unlike the toyota.
Love these videos, joking aside it proves that until charging becomes as quick and convenient as filling up, the EV utopia is simply a fantasy. No doubt an EV is an ideal transport solution for SOME people, but for the majority of drivers, they're just a way of adding stress to already stressful motoring.
Ive been driving an electric Mokka for near two years. I love it so much im trading it in for a 1500 quid diesel tomorrow. And cant wait. E-cars are a scam!
Hills are a huge factor, I speak from experience. As a user of an e-bike I know that if I'm going to have fun on the hills, I can do up to 21 miles (~1400m of elevation gain). If I'm gonna go for a family ride along the canal path, I can do up to 60 miles, because the elevation gain usually won't exceed 200m and I'll be easily able to ride in eco mode all the time.
What`s the difference between a coal miner and a cobalt miner ?? One is a man , the other is a minor ............. Open the coal mines , make Britain Great Again
The only way I'd get an EV, would be a tiny little thing for pottering around in - school run, shopping, commuting etc. (My commute is literally 5 minutes, my wife 10 minutes.) It would replace my 10 year old Citreon C1 and would need to be of comparable cost. I suspect that would be the factor that makes me keep the C1.
NAGE mate.I was just getting ready to sign on the dotted line for a milk float.then my wife shook me to get up.what a nightmare it was orrible mate just orrible.brilliant vid as usual.🙏✌️🫶🏴
That's a shocking example of the "usefulness" of EVs - agree totally about not changing habits to find some remote charger. Who wants to spend their time frantically looking for cheap chargers when you're rapidly running out of charge. I agree with a recent interview with James May where he rebranded it 'charge anxiety' - the range wouldn't be a problem if there was a decent infrastructure and they charged within minutes, but it's the worry that the chargers won't be broken/busy/rapid etc.
The advantage of having an EV van as opposed to an EV car is that you have plenty of room in the back for a fairly powerful generator and a petrol tank for when you run out of juice and there's no charger available.
This reminds me of running a 125-165 mile range ev. It was ok when electric was free or cheap. But moving to a 260-330 range ev was game changing. Little to no piblic cbarging. Current vans are like ev's from 10 years ago.
Little to no public charging? It's still not enough range for a lot of people. My friend purchased a new Audi EV with alleged 260 range, that he's never had. This car has changed his life completely - for the worse! His whole working life is spent in servitude to this car now. His life revolves around it's demands. He never gets 260 miles & when he challenged Audi about their claims, they told him they were obtained under lab conditions!!
@@charliejackman2953 Should always buy korean if you want advertised range. I get 260 in winter and 336 in summer on the motorway and drive 12 hours a day with work. Or you can nuy a flashy badge and live in hope. :)
I used to have one of these, for 3 years (50kw company van -BT). I have to say, it was a nice van to drive, but that's were the good stuff ends. In good, warm weather it would say it had 130 miles of range from a full overnight charge, but in fact that would normally really be 80 miles! In the winter the 130miles range would really be 60 miles. Put on the heater, or jump on the motorway, with the heater, lights & wipers on, that would be down to 50 miles. 😢. Don't tell me I should have been in eco mode, all that does is turn off the heating! Personally I wouldn't buy one of these with my own money!
I was forced into one by my previous company. It was a complete clown show and the Management didn’t want to hear it. The fleet department are in complete denial.😂
The advantage of having an EV van as opposed to an EV car, is that you've got plenty of room in the back for a fairly powerful generator and a petrol tank for when you run out of juice in the middle of nowhere.
Just when we thought the UK's productivity figures couldn't fall any further ,hey presto. Buy an E-van and we will have the same productivity figures as Somalia.
I want to thank you for you and your channel and the unbiased reporting with some great demonstrations on how useless EVs are. I have been thinking of selling my two diesel’s and buying a new EV…gonna keep my old bangers, neither miss a beat and one as zero road tax😁👍…they can shove their useless EV up their backside….only if it has enough power that is 😏😏
Years ago i drove my wife from Milton Keynes to Boscastle to see her Dad on a Sunday.Dropped her off and returned,the round trip was about 9 hours ?So nothing has moved on.
Local car dealership has one ,struggles in the summer to do the parts drop off in the local area and in the winter its impossible as losses about 30% of range. I asked him why did he buy it , said he was forced to by their franchise to "make up the EV numbers" - says it all ! 80 miles is about the correct real world range ,maybe 60 when laden - useless and the initial cost and depreciation is biblical .
We have a caravan in ilfracombe we fill up with diesel we go to ilfracombe and back to caerphilly on one tank don't stop there or back. Not a snow ball in hell of us buying a milk float
I find with the guessometer range predictor it’s not always accurate,I would work out range by what you should average on miles per kWh,for this van realistically it will do 2.25 miles for every kilowatt hour(kWh)so if this is a 75kwh battery vivaro e,it’s has 70kwh usable so you were at 80% at the start so actually miles to get to zero charge left is 0.8x70x2.2=123miles if starting at 100% charge range is 154miles to zero.Vauxhall says a 75kwh vivaro e has a range of 205 miles,100% to zero.If you drive slower say max of 60 mph then the economy will increase to say 2.5 miles per kWh
I'm guessing back in the day, many many years ago drivers of horse and carriage 's thought the same about the first cars and vans to appear on the scene" future my arse" . Maybe in 10 years time an EV van might be worth having but not yet! They're not practical for most van drivers. I'm a plasterer can you imagine how far I'd get with a full load of plaster boards and plaster plus tools, probably about 20 miles on a full charge. Not for me thanks! I'll stick to my diesel.
The next question was your van empty imagine the range if you was loaded up with tools or delivering parcels with that added weight would destroy your range
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How can ANYONE ever justify getting one of these unless they never go further than half its range and can charge it up every night.
a friend has one for his business where he does just that, currently costing him 3p a mile to run - Delivering fixings to local tradies.
@@markburton8303so it's a local delivery van and nothing else. Exactly like a milkfloat 😂
@@andrewwaller5913 Why companies are building EV heavy vehicles is beyond me.
@@markburton8303 once you factor in the purchase price/lease it's not going to be 3p a mile.....
@@markburton8303subsidies and lobbyists
So basically these vans are designed only to do the rose tinted view of local deliveries. Ideal for those 15 minute cities.
spot on.
Only if they have somewhere to charge, land is expensive in 15 minute cities, well it is now, but greenies that won't do a days work for a days pay will get priced out and things will change.
@@TomSmith-cv8hk knowing the powers to be they will assign those who don't have a job or have a job in a company that they don't want to see trading anymore, a place in the big warehouses with smile on the side of them.
You were doomed from the start... you had the wipers on! 😁
😁😁
And that's unladen too.
Very good point.
How about a 1t pallet ?
You've given me range anxiety sitting in my arm chair.
class mate made me laugh this morning
Tony "look...its got sat-nav"...presses button...loses 10 miles of range 😂
😂😂
It's the perfect vehicle if your business is delivering polystyrene to local consumers in Milton Keynes!
😅🤣
paper mache - can't be delivering polystyrene, whatever will greta say?
My friend has one to deliver fixings to local tradies - He bought it cheap used, cheaper than an diesel van (which seem to be at a premium in the south west) and runs it for 3 p a mile.
@@markburton8303sounds like it’s your imaginary friend…
@@lnomgaudas1307 What's imaginary? We all know (well you lot might not) you can get cheap electricity for 7.5p a kWh on Octopus Energy, and you know how this bloke is always wanging on about depreciation, well that actually helps if you are buying something that's a few years old - decent business decision in my book . Sorry it couldn't be me, but I don't have to deliver anything.
Who in their right mind would buy this.
Anyone who knows that only an idiot charges to 100% on a rapid.
@@timsbird1971bollocks!
@@user-vh7ki7xu7o clearly I'm in the presence of a genius....
No one, you lease it through your business and save a fortune on tax and running costs!
British Gas run loads of them that’s why your energy bills are too high.
I regularly drive from Liverpool to Helston, Cornwall, 380 miles. I fill up my tank (£110), and off we go. Plenty of short comfort breaks as my wife has a serious back condition. On a clear run we can do the run in under 8hrs and still have half a tank of fuel even when lights, wipers and air con are on! The car is a Jaguar XJ 3ltr diesel. So no range anxiety just plain sailing in luxury.
Great vid, crack on son.
Talking about tone deaf! I very much doubt the working class EV Carnage tosser appreciates being called “‘son” by a Jaguar driving tosser…
Electric Sack Of Shite
I've been retired now for almost ten years but I worked for a national company, we used to bring our vehicles home at night, I had to park away from my address so no chance of charging at home and why should I pay to charge the company vehicle anyway, we used to drive approximately 200 miles a day making 60 + drops on a good day this would take around 12 hours on a bad day 16 hours + . There's no way you could do that in a milkfloat.
You've got me in deep trouble with management, everytime I go passed a milkfloat I say 'Future my arse' an she's getting fed up with it but I just can't help myself. You do make me smile old son keep the video's coming I luv'em and they are cheaper than Jim Davidson on Ustreame.🤣🤣
I'm feeling uninspired this morning so I'll make a non-comment to appease the algorithm. Thanks Mr. Carnage and greetings from the north coast.⛈🌊🙂
I take it that the van was empty. would have been more interesting if it had a maximum load😂
Which is what would happen in the real world. Tradesmen tend to really load up their vehicles since payload = money. It would be interesting to see how these "commercial vehicles" would cope in a real world situation.
What an f in joke😂 "Future my arse"
I’m on my second Vivaro - diesel (of course) Can honestly say, I’ve had zero trouble in motoring with my job as an electrician.
My stress levels are minimal. No looking at the fuel gauge every five minutes to increase the heart rate and stress (range anxiety I believe)
But if as you say 88 mile range is pathetic, would it be lower if fully laden ?
Basically they’re garbage.
Fully laden you'd need to charge it by the end of your driveway.
@davelowe1977 I bet your not far wrong there !!
I drove 295 miles from a town in North Netherlands to the Channel Tunnel nonstop (4 hours 45 minutes) at an average of 61 MPH and 60MPG, then straight the other side straight to Farnborough Hampshire, still had over 200 miles of range. In a 2.0 litre diesel Skoda Octavia.
Yep. That's my take on it too. Was doing a lot of work in Cornwall. Best I got out of it's 180 miles range was 140 miles. That was on a nice day, no heavy weight on the back, no rain, warm weather. On a cold winter's day, with kit, got 95 miles. Future, my arse
Load the back up full with EV evangelists and then see the real range.. 😂
There’s been a big scandal of Volkswagen over MPG being vastly overstated, so why aren’t the EV cars having the same court cases being brought against the manufactures ?
Currently having the engine replaced on my 03 viv I’d replace it a hundred times before I got rid for a EV 😂👍✌️
Would be interesting to see the same journey done with the van fully laden!
Outstanding video Tony,thank you
Imagine living in a place with temps over 110F (Phoenix, AZ), or under minus 10F (middle of Maine). Both the A/C or the heat chew up tons of electrons just to keep you alive, and the range of an EV is cut in half (or worse). Thanks, but no thanks, Greta.
At Last! I have found a kindred spirit that thinks we are all being taken for fools. Does nobody question the fact that to get around by battery power you have to lug around at least a ton of weight in batteries and when they are completely or nearly empty, the damn things still weight the same, so dead weight. Can people not understand this.
EV's, an illogical solution to an imaginary problem.
5th gear did a E van test….once they loaded it with a ton of sand….it massively effected the range…even after a hill where it had to go into sports mode….as it struggled to get up a “slope” they quickly put it back into eco….as it hurt the range so much…after 1 “slope” LOL…..
I love sat behind them regen braking using my brakes and extra engine braking
And we all know what the EVangelists will say "you had your headlights on, your had your window wipers on, you charged it wrong, should have got a Tesla van (if they exist) blah, blah, blah"
I don’t think I can use the analogy of tortoise and hare ,as the hare wins this one 😂🤣😂
Hang on a minute. The Gridserve charger said that it was using 100 % net zero electric. How does it do that when the national grid cannot differentiate where the power originated? Are they lying or have they installed an alternative network?
It's a con and I am surprised that trading standards aren't feeling the corporate Gridserve collar. The grid supplies energy from a number of sources including gas, nuclear and, yes, wind/solar. None of them are net zero.
They store net zero electricity in one container and the other in a separate container. Duuuh
These companies are allowed to use carbon offsets to claim net zero - effectively they pay someone to be able to use their carbon credits - Eon do that as well. Total fraud of course.
Eon next also make this claim, I've said the exact words that you have used to advertising standards agency, now waiting to hear back from them, what do you think they will have to say about it,
@@StephenFirth-ui7oz That'll be interesting! Yes, ASA is probably a better bet than trading standards. Another one playing that game is Octopus.
“I’m going to be on fumes- well not fumes, unless it’s going to be on fire.” 🤣🤣 LMAO
Know who this van is perfect for! Council workers! Might even be able to plug their kettle into the damned thing!
Funny you mention that council i work for are replacing the old dispatch vans for them or the smaller partner sized van and some large etransit cage vans to replace the old 2.2 transits. Some vans will stay diesel due to the mileages covered each day. Nobody wants the electric vans but its happening. I did get to test the toyota proace ev and it was nice to drive handled the moors nicely handled the twisty B roads lovely and range was bang on. However driven a hired renault trafic new 2.0 diesel for work and that was better despite being the base model it had DAB unlike the toyota.
Love these videos, joking aside it proves that until charging becomes as quick and convenient as filling up, the EV utopia is simply a fantasy. No doubt an EV is an ideal transport solution for SOME people, but for the majority of drivers, they're just a way of adding stress to already stressful motoring.
My daughter worked for a van hire company.
The electric vans just didn't rent out as the range is rubbish.
Ive been driving an electric Mokka for near two years.
I love it so much im trading it in for a 1500 quid diesel tomorrow. And cant wait.
E-cars are a scam!
Who in their right mind would drive away from the motorway to find a possible cheaper charger lol?
EV owners are clearly NOT in their right mind.
Hills are a huge factor, I speak from experience. As a user of an e-bike I know that if I'm going to have fun on the hills, I can do up to 21 miles (~1400m of elevation gain). If I'm gonna go for a family ride along the canal path, I can do up to 60 miles, because the elevation gain usually won't exceed 200m and I'll be easily able to ride in eco mode all the time.
Range anxiety. Couple of my mates have range anxiety with their petrol hybrids. What a laugh !!😅😅😅
Had one as a work van.
Strangest thing with it, every time I turned it on, it defaulted to having the A/C on.
If the van was full of stuff then then there will be even less range. My mate works for Openreach and he now spends nearly half his day charging.
What`s the difference between a coal miner and a cobalt miner ??
One is a man , the other is a minor .............
Open the coal mines , make Britain Great Again
Great video mate laughing my head off
i and about 75% of drivers will never be lied into buying one of these things.
Who in their right mind would even consider one of these as a work vehicle??
Proper EV crap and lies lol. Builders wont be buying this shit!! Keep up the great work Tony.
The only way I'd get an EV, would be a tiny little thing for pottering around in - school run, shopping, commuting etc. (My commute is literally 5 minutes, my wife 10 minutes.) It would replace my 10 year old Citreon C1 and would need to be of comparable cost. I suspect that would be the factor that makes me keep the C1.
NAGE mate.I was just getting ready to sign on the dotted line for a milk float.then my wife shook me to get up.what a nightmare it was orrible mate just orrible.brilliant vid as usual.🙏✌️🫶🏴
That's a shocking example of the "usefulness" of EVs - agree totally about not changing habits to find some remote charger. Who wants to spend their time frantically looking for cheap chargers when you're rapidly running out of charge. I agree with a recent interview with James May where he rebranded it 'charge anxiety' - the range wouldn't be a problem if there was a decent infrastructure and they charged within minutes, but it's the worry that the chargers won't be broken/busy/rapid etc.
and when you get there.. there is ten people in front of you doing the same thing
Great vehicle for collecting Costa Rewards.😂
The advantage of having an EV van as opposed to an EV car is that you have plenty of room in the back for a fairly powerful generator and a petrol tank for when you run out of juice and there's no charger available.
The good news: I made it to Exeter. The bad news: I made it to Exeter. 😬
This reminds me of running a 125-165 mile range ev. It was ok when electric was free or cheap. But moving to a 260-330 range ev was game changing. Little to no piblic cbarging. Current vans are like ev's from 10 years ago.
@@puppyone2020 😂😂😂🤡 I charged my car at a Porsche dealer today. About 80% of the cars were flavours of Taycan.
Little to no public charging? It's still not enough range for a lot of people.
My friend purchased a new Audi EV with alleged 260 range, that he's never had. This car has changed his life completely - for the worse! His whole working life is spent in servitude to this car now. His life revolves around it's demands.
He never gets 260 miles & when he challenged Audi about their claims, they told him they were obtained under lab conditions!!
@@charliejackman2953 Should always buy korean if you want advertised range. I get 260 in winter and 336 in summer on the motorway and drive 12 hours a day with work. Or you can nuy a flashy badge and live in hope. :)
Wipers and lights don’t work off the main traction battery,they work off the 12v car battery
I used to have one of these, for 3 years (50kw company van -BT). I have to say, it was a nice van to drive, but that's were the good stuff ends. In good, warm weather it would say it had 130 miles of range from a full overnight charge, but in fact that would normally really be 80 miles! In the winter the 130miles range would really be 60 miles. Put on the heater, or jump on the motorway, with the heater, lights & wipers on, that would be down to 50 miles. 😢. Don't tell me I should have been in eco mode, all that does is turn off the heating! Personally I wouldn't buy one of these with my own money!
I was forced into one by my previous company. It was a complete clown show and the Management didn’t want to hear it. The fleet department are in complete denial.😂
The advantage of having an EV van as opposed to an EV car, is that you've got plenty of room in the back for a fairly powerful generator and a petrol tank for when you run out of juice in the middle of nowhere.
The ev's only seem to be suited to the " 15min city " idea.
You could always fit some solar panels on top & a wind mill so you are charging as you drive, I think that’s called perpetual motion! LOL😂
You didn't plan your journey, you went on a wet dull day!!!
Oooh! It’s just like Countdown too, isn’t it?
Just when we thought the UK's productivity figures couldn't fall any further ,hey presto. Buy an E-van and we will have the same productivity figures as Somalia.
I want to thank you for you and your channel and the unbiased reporting with some great demonstrations on how useless EVs are. I have been thinking of selling my two diesel’s and buying a new EV…gonna keep my old bangers, neither miss a beat and one as zero road tax😁👍…they can shove their useless EV up their backside….only if it has enough power that is 😏😏
Years ago i drove my wife from Milton Keynes to Boscastle to see her Dad on a Sunday.Dropped her off and returned,the round trip was about 9 hours ?So nothing has moved on.
Never understood why so many electric gadgets in these EVs 🤪
Probably to reduce range quicker so you have to spend more time and money charging it
Loaded or empty, that is the question. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And had you got a Ton of load in the back?
Do you take a book (or even a handheld games console) with you as you know it's going to take time to charge?
*E Vacuate! E Vacuate!*
Local car dealership has one ,struggles in the summer to do the parts drop off in the local area and in the winter its impossible as losses about 30% of range. I asked him why did he buy it , said he was forced to by their franchise to "make up the EV numbers" - says it all !
80 miles is about the correct real world range ,maybe 60 when laden - useless and the initial cost and depreciation is biblical .
Cardiff to Birmingham then to Coventry then to Peterborough and back to Cardiff...£40...59 plate volvo xc60. Future my bum!
We have a caravan in ilfracombe we fill up with diesel we go to ilfracombe and back to caerphilly on one tank don't stop there or back. Not a snow ball in hell of us buying a milk float
They are made for local stuff like a milk float
I find with the guessometer range predictor it’s not always accurate,I would work out range by what you should average on miles per kWh,for this van realistically it will do 2.25 miles for every kilowatt hour(kWh)so if this is a 75kwh battery vivaro e,it’s has 70kwh usable so you were at 80% at the start so actually miles to get to zero charge left is 0.8x70x2.2=123miles if starting at 100% charge range is 154miles to zero.Vauxhall says a 75kwh vivaro e has a range of 205 miles,100% to zero.If you drive slower say max of 60 mph then the economy will increase to say 2.5 miles per kWh
Fact is you had range anxiety the moment you knew you would be driving it..
Was your van carrying its legal cargo weight on your test drive or empty 😊
I love that you start the video parked opposite a burger van, are they any good?
I'm guessing back in the day, many many years ago drivers of horse and carriage 's thought the same about the first cars and vans to appear on the scene" future my arse" . Maybe in 10 years time an EV van might be worth having but not yet! They're not practical for most van drivers. I'm a plasterer can you imagine how far I'd get with a full load of plaster boards and plaster plus tools, probably about 20 miles on a full charge. Not for me thanks! I'll stick to my diesel.
Anyone who buys an electric car needs their head read..!!
Bang on Tony
I’m interested to see what the van doing what it’s designed to do will do to the range, ie. Stick some tools in the back.
Shouldn't we have something that is so much better than what we leave behind??? HEY.
Did you have a heavy load in the back?
If you wear a flying jacket , thermal underwear and thick glues on you will get the range . Here's Biggles giving you advice 😅😅😅
So what did the trip cost?
When you loose range is that ‘ fuel ‘ you have paid for but but has disappeared . Like having your tank siphoned .
We don’t drive round with empty vans what would it be like with a load on?
Imagine if you had a load on board.
How much weight were you carrying, seeing as that's basically what a van is for
And fortunately no heater needed.
I.got dab and sat nav ,that will be 80 miles of range then 😂😂
So you recommend the diesel version then lol .Ev my.arse 😁😆
Do it again, with the float at max all up weight.
Which size battery are you driving?
AAA😂
What happens when range anxiety turns into range rage?
And this is the future😮
Did you have a turd at Exeter? That would increase your mileage 😂😂😂
The next question was your van empty imagine the range if you was loaded up with tools or delivering parcels with that added weight would destroy your range
I don’t think the quoted range for the 75kwh vivaro e is 260 miles,think it’s like 195 but realistically it’s 175
....and when the battery inevitably degrades in the next couple of years it will be even more money and less milage.
I imagine if you have the audacity to carry any weight in it the range will degrade hugely or is the plan to merely carry glider engines?