Citroen C4E Milk Float plus Crap Charging Makes for an Epic Road Trip that will blow your mind!!
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- Drive a car from Cornwall to Northampton. Nice and easy. Not when it’s a milk float, the charging network is a disaster, it’s Easter holidays and the services are busy, and you’ve got a milk float with a crap range to start off with. Started out nice and turned into an epic of Gone with the Wind proportions. Mental. And reality. And definitely not progress. #futuremyarse #evcars #electriccar
EVs make perfect sense.
When your limited to inside your 15min city.
🤔 at 60mph that’s 15 miles. I’m pretty sure those EVs have quite a bit more range than that.
@@salibabaaway from motorways and dual carriageways, few roads have 60mph+ limits. In urban areas it’s mostly 30 if not 20mph. 15min is then 5 miles.
Instead of this heavy battery with crap range carry on, if only someone would invent a car with an internal combustion system. You could put a certain type of fluid in, literally in minutes, and you could drive 4-500 miles, and generate heat and even have aircon with no worry at all. I think it would be a great hit.
Lol, that's what I was going to say. Thanks.
No that idea will never catch on
But that would mean you don't need a Smart phone to monitor and track your movements and block them if your social credit score is not compliant.
You would get there faster in a RL Bedford 45mph flat out and even get passed by morris minors lol
Do we have the technology 😂😂 would the boffins not be better trying to get 100mpg out of a gallon of fuel and also decreasing co2 etc therefore NOT HAVING TO SPEND 27K UPWARDS ON NEW CARS 😡 less money for bp,shell etc so less money for the govt ln back handers.
90 seconds to fill my car, carry a jerry can to increase its already substantial range, have a charging box to jump start if a dead battery or bump start with the manual box.
Selfish, planet-hating luddite!!! 😉
I’ve taken the precaution of buying several 20L metal jerrycans and filled them up.
Gives me a full tanks worth of “home charging”!
How much petrol/diesel can you legally store in the U.K. ?
@@davecooper3238 30L.
Though I’ve seen far more than that in people’s garages while filming TH-cam videos.
Anyway, careless storage of 25L can easily be more dangerous than 50L stored well.
The motorcycle tanks on my bikes are over 30L. They’re more hazardous than a 20L brand new metal jerrycan.
The law is an ass.
@@GT380man My bike tank is 19.4 litres. It and its mounting is fully type approved. Which is what counts.
I am no longer involved in fuel sales. But the sites Petroleum Licence restricted sales to :- A maximum of 10 litres to be dispensed into a container designed for the carriage of petrol/diesel. To stay within the terms of the Petroleum Licence we could only allow the filling of one container. A customer could use a Jerrycan but the pump had to be turned off if the fill went over 10 litre.
It’s one of the things Trading Standards used to look out for. A Petroleum License is in some ways like an a alcohol license. Loose it and your fuel sales are stopped. Don’t know if it’s still the case but Trading Standards were even allowed to padlock pumps.
Have people storing over ten litres OKed it with their insurance companies. If they haven’t it may adversely effect of a fire claim. Excessive fuel storage is something that will appear in a Fire Brigade report.
You should get this on the BBC. Oh no hang on there are part of the conspiracy
they're ... not there
We drove from Eastern Bulgaria to the Scottish Highlands via the Rotterdam to Hull ferry. The border guards lost our car details so we couldn't cross into Serbia. We had to go home and fetch the spare document. 420 extra miles I hadn't planned for. Our 2009 Focus 1.6 Zetec purred like a kitten to Budapest on the second night which meant, despite the extra mileage, we made it to Rotterdam with 1 hour left before the check-in closed.
Somehow, it occurs to me we might not have made it if we'd been stupid enough to own an EV.
Bad luck with the visa.
@@claudiushempstead9893 It made it a challenge to get there, but it proved the nonsensical nature of EVs. The relief we felt as we drove onto the ferry, the pleasure of that first pint in the bar afterwards. It was a very satisfying feeling to what was a brilliant road trip😀
Can you imagine your wife or daughter at night in a dodgy car park by themselves doing a 2hr charge if it works how vulnerable will they be ? This is madness.
I'm glad you're getting paid to sit there.
Just think of all those van drivers who are being paid to deliver goods but are sitting at a charger for hours if they can find one.
I used to work for a motoring organisation and around 9 years ago, I did a range test on an I3 with a range extender. The aim was to not use the extender motor, but obviously, it didn't work out. I was sent to 2 non existent chargers, 1 I found was broken and had to result in using the motor. Useless, and that was only 160 mile round trip the off M25 to Hampshire. I feel for you, it looks like absolutely nothing has improved. Future my arse indeed.
Keep up the videos Tony, excellent
Why on earth anyone would want one of these things I'll never know, I can get in
my 20 year old Citroen and do the full journey, no problem. Nobody yet has shown
me any benefits for having an EV whatsoever. The only place they're half right is
if you're in a city, and even then I'd sooner use proper fuel.
Well billionaire Elon for one:))
Well, I always hear them saying that these cars are so quiet and they love the torque 🤷🏻♂️. Plus the best thing is being able to charge at home. Few of these people acknowledge that not everybody owns a house
for now only tesla worth buying rest of EV they got very slow charger
Hardly no one wants that's why they force them!
The reason people buy them is because they are fast and cheap to run. Range isn't really a problem. For the environment, it's best I think to stick with your Citroen but when you need to change, I would suggest you should at least consider an EV.
16:55 "I am holding the steering wheel. Piss off!" Brilliant!
The seats might be comfy but need more features, such as when charging the seat should automatically recline fully while a duvet & pillows pop out so you can have a kip for your inevitable long wait.
Love your vids, one of the funniest youtubers about! Good to see what its like to run an EV when you do decent miles. Sure they're great for inner city trips of 10 miles but for everyone else they're just not good enough. Be good to see what the charging costs are, I imagine 4 hrs charging on the public network I a bit more than than a C4 ICE costs doing the same milage.
I've just bought a new Kia Stonic, mild hybrid so no problems with charging but if I was ever thinking of buying an electric car (which I wasn't) you have put me off for life.
I was at my Uncles Birthday party on Saturday and the lady who was doing the catering had a Peugeot e2008 (same as the C4e but with a different body). We said it looked like a nice car, and she replied back, saying it was, but it's going back to the dealer as she found it the worst car she has purchased. I knew why she was doing it, and I guess it was due to the same issues as this Citroën.
Reality kicks in what a joke ,definitely made to keep you local 😂
like my Mini Cooper Electric hey, keeping me local to my home in London,
UNLESS I'm in Cornwall, which is somewhere I go regularly.
I cannot imagine how long and how many charge stops you would need to drive a milk float from Sydney to Brisbane, that's roughly 560 miles, I've done that in a rented ICE car, with 4 stops for food and 20 mins rest, in 10 hours, mind you hitting 155 kph on some parts, great vid dude
You must admit this is good practice for mental arithmetic.
I remember old torch batteries they lasted no time and leaked. We moved through stages to alkaline which last 7 times longer and leak less often.
I have now moved on to none rechargeable lithium batteries for torches etc which are another big improvement. Don't leak and have a very long shelf life.
No doubt down the line more improvements will come along.
Brilliant effort mate 👍
EV Shite it’s not the future!!
Stress free driving 😂😂😂 how long to get to the highlands of Scotland 🤔 you must have the patience of Job
There is a Tesla Supercentre at Lifton (near Launceston) just off the A30 which is open to non-Tesla cars, job done!
Plus the fact your trapped at an 'over priced' service station where the coffees are £5.00 a cup. By the way i got a C1 which i converted to LPG 13 years ago and it's still going at 166000 miles . 280 miles from £27.00 quid of Gas!! it's the future !! plus i got the 'back up' of a 35ltr tank of petrol . £10 road Tax !!!
It's not good is it? I went to see someone 300ks away from where I live. I have an old hot hatch [ well a hatch anyway ], I am not a fast driver so it took me close to 3hrs for $50 and back to my starting point. Ev's are just not practical.
My son and I took a trip a few years ago from outside of Los Angeles to Coos Bay Oregon. That's about 900 miles, it took us about 15 hours. That would be about 30 hours in a Milk Float plus an over night stay.
Yes Tony, your best video yet, and it's not finished yet 😂😂😂😂
In China they can’t give them away millions of them rusting away in fields.
Cracking video! Net Zero my arse…
I'm in my 70s and mainly use our car for longer journeys visiting friends/ holidays etc and i don't think i could cope with the stress! I'll stick with my self charging hybrid thanks,the best of both worlds. EVs drive very nicely and i enjoy the part electrification that i have but no way would i consider one for general use. This isn't going to work,is it? I think charging stations are going to have dedicated queueing systems otherwise we'll get 'charging rage' with drivers trying to get in first. On the positive side it will slow down the pace of life, whiling away the time at charging points, wondering around,having a chat...welcome back to the 50s everyone..Great comments,just found your video.
The golden rule with EV road trips is charge when you can, not when you have to. If in doubt, stop and charge. Don't just charge on (excuse the pun), buy yourself some time and some peace of mind, and top up. I wouldn't have started with 80% either. 90% would have been a minimum. You know you have to stop at some point to charge, so you're not saving time by not charging now. Plus, the extra 10% could have gone in overnight, so no extra time wasted there. I would avoid slow chargers like the plague. Do what you have to do so you can bypass them. Charge to 100% at a fast charger then move to the next fast charger. Life is too short not to plan ahead. I'm not even an EV owner, but if I had to drive one I would use my noggin and do what I needed to do to save time and hassle.
You seem to do similar routes in milk floats with similar size (smaller) batteries and slower charge rates - its also a given that they have poorer range at constant high speed.
How about you do a time comparison between the 70-78 seen on camera and a steady 60 on cruise. Imagine you could skip one timely charge stop for the sake of up to 18 miles less covered per hour?
I currently drive an 08-reg, Peugeot Partner van. With it's abysmal 1650 diesel it's about the worst vehicle I've ever owned. It still gets me up and down the country's motorways without having to stop regularly to charge the batteries. I would swap it for a number of other vehicles but none of them would be a milk float!
Tedious journey😓 Great video though 🤣 Do you have to pay for parking 🅿at the services after a couple of hours wait too?
So you started with 170 miles, finished on 0, total mileage is 320 and it cost 80 quid for the trip??
so thats 80 quid for 150 miles.....?
Got any jobs going? I'm in Camborne.
Peugeot and Citroen developed heads up many years ago and also the sensors for recognising animals or humans in the road at night time which was probably hijacked by a certain car maker and called city drive or other variations of lights, speed signs , cars swerving in the road and emergency braking if you get too close
Brilliant. Subbed 👍
Scottish power here. You are being charged with environmental hate crimes.
Could you add how much each charge is costing, please?
The sooner the government starts taxing electric vehicles the better based on weight which they will do and then get the power supply companies to carry out a software adjustment to the home based smart meters in order to try and pull back the tax revenue losses they are making on these vehicles the software adjustment can be made to recognise home charging rates and increase the rates accordingly , the Future my arse they are , they are a potential cash cow that will restrict your social lives.
Great video. Proves a point. Four charges!!!! Total waste of a day
Milk floaty jokery🤡
How many hours and the number of times he had to stop at charging points
And how many miles did he travel
I've done some considerable research, and in fact, THE most environmentally friendly car to be driving is a well-maintained diesel, which you service regularly and run for as long as practical.
This is mainly because the manufacture of EVs, and the materials needed, are extremely environmentally unfriendly.
If you then add all the impracticalities which your video highlights, plus the crushing depreciation, an EV is really the last thing anyone should be driving.
I will stick with my 2017 Volvo XC60 diesel for as long as I can, and I will never go electric.
so creating about 1 and 1/2 tons of CO2 per year
with an ICE is Environmentally friendly,
you need to speak to a REAL scientist about your home made BS.
Funny that I've got an EV, a mégane e-tech, never have a problem charging, never have a problem finding chargers, my in car google system finds them for me.. Never have a problem with range. NEVER worried about if i'll get where i'm going. Best car i have ever had. Either i must be the luckiest person in the world or you are all talking bollocks.
This guy can't even get the car model name correct. But people believe everything he says.
Yeah, he also calls it a milkfloat then says it's a lovely car to drive. But to be fair some of the names of EVs are a bit confusing. Mine is the Renault Mégane e-tech 100% electric techno. Or, alternatively, as we call her, Meggy!
Hybrids might be the future but all electric cars seems like you're asking for trouble.
A thought has struck me. Car trans porter. Saves time and money.....I mean you are averaging 30 mph ...just wonderkng
Imagine if everyone had an EV your trip would have been much worse. You wouldn't have got anywhere near a charger. Would've been good if you'd given the costs involved at each charger.
I wonder when someone is going to start selling portable chargers (petrol-powered of course) small enough to fit into the boot of those EV's? Mind you a typical 3kW generator would consume some 2.5 litres of petrol per hour so the 5 litre tanks would get you 6kW of charge. Enough to get you out of a sticky situation I suppose? Better yet, sell them a 75kW charger and make it a FAST charger system. You could call it an ICE vehicle and do away with the EV side of things.......
Life is too short to be sitting in a stationary car.
A horse and cart could probably compete with bev for speed and range. It would definitely be much better for the planet than a bev.
£80 of charging to do just 320 miles. Even my fast Range Rover costs much less to do that distance and I could have also driven half way back as well before a refill would be required. Why anybody buys an EV, I don’t know. They must be deranged.
Absolutely brilliant expose of the absolute rubbish that EV's are. You should get an OBE for this.
It’s done the equivalent of 18/20 mpg at current diesel prices….absolute rubbish. My BMW diesel gets me 3 times that and all in one go without all the stress
Top video again mate 👍
Imagine a lone woman trying to find a charger after dark , the toe rags will know exactly where to wait in ambush looking for easy prey .
Being a female does not come into it
If a woman thinks I’m gonna give up the charging port for her then she’s got another thing coming
This shows you don't know how to operate an EV. You use an App to identify charge locations before you travel. In a gas car you fill up and drive until fumes and look around and refill. Cool. Works great. You simply manage the gas tank. In an EV you manage the destination. You set the charge location with an app with maybe a backup. The cars nav system will take you there and will calculate what you'll have in battery state of charge etc. It's just a different mindset. If you drive an EV until near empty and then look around for a charger you're doomed. If it's too hard to learn a new way of travel than yes, by all means stay with a gas car.
@@sunrisejak2709 ok, so what happens when you get there to find that all the chargers are "out of service" with 15 miles range left and the next charger is 30 miles away?
@@Norfolkbiker50 I just drove north to south in Thailand with a Tesla model 3 and the charging infrastructure (while still in development) sufficient enough for that negative scenario not to occur. I drove 31 hours total, 2,200 km, and charged 6 times. I did find 2 chargers not functioning. But the one next to it worked. I assume you live in USA? Technology utilization can be very different in various geographies. I have no concerns driving anywhere in this (less developed) South East Asian country in an EV. Apparently its easier/practical here than more advanced countries in the west. At no time am I concerned I would be in difficulty. Here the charge locations of course are all identified in numerous Apps. The most popular charge network (EV Pluz) has partnered with Thailands largest state owned oil company PTT. The larger locations will have EV chargers and have huge signs also identifying that feature. Frankly I hate the use of Apps and the Tesla chargers are preferred but they are still rolling out their network. I just ordered my 2nd EV an MG Cyberster a cool dual motor 2 seat Roadster. But operating an EV means to manage the "destination" so planning the charge location near where your going is the first order of travel. A gas car you fill up and manage the "tank", drive until fumes and look around for gas and fill up. Cool. Very convenient no doubt. Use the same process in an EV and it's a recipe for stress! 😁 I have now 30,000 completely trouble free miles with about 8 days of those travel beyond the cars EV range. The other 357 days are charged from home. That's 97% of my days leaving home everyday with at least 285 miles range as I top up every night while I sleep. (I only need like 50 daily) So, for me in my "use case" an EV works. My brother on the other hand lives in an apartment and is an "on the road salesman" . I think he should stay away from an EV with a 10 foot pole. It would be too inconvenient taking 25 min to charge when a gas fill up is less than 5. EVs,,,, fascinating,,, but clearly not for everyone.
@@Norfolkbiker50By the way the App has lots of real time information. It tells you if the charger is out of service and it let's you know if it's occupied. Etc. When traveling a route can be input into the car or App and it will automatically create the most efficient route and will inform what state of charge you will have at each charge stop and how long you need to charge for. Unlike a gas car it's not practical to "full up" at every stop. I drive about 5.5 hours straight between charges and I'm ready for a bathroom break, food, and a few messages and in the 25 min I'm soon out. I guess Thailand has thought this through. Last year 75,000 EVs sold in basically the 1st full year of introduction. The 2nd tear sales direcast is for 140,000 units. But these being attractively priced Chinese makers. The recent Motorshow was packed and more than 10 Chinese auto companies with prices and product equal to their gas counterparts. It's a fun experience seeing this grow. But here too many folks (pick up truck market) should stay with gas.
Lol! EV car owners remind me of drug addicts 😊.
Where am I going to get my next fix?
Excellent Tony, keep exposing the biggest scam in the history of scams👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Think covid is that winner, unless the ev scam runs another 5 years 🤔.
OIL, thats one hell of a BIG scam.
Co2 pollution is the bigger scam
@@alleyoop5185 hm, ALL of oil, coal and gas, took 70 million years to create and that stopped being created about 300 million years ago and that oil, coal and gas, trapped a LOT of carbon, then about 200 years ago, Humans started to dig up and drill for that oil, coal and gas, to BURN, thus releasing ever increasing BILLIONS OF TONS, of CO2, (a known insulator of the Planet), into the atmosphere AND if we the Human Race, ignore this, "it (Man Made Global Climate Change) has the very real potential of kick starting WW3, due to nations going to war, to secure the dwindling amount of fresh drinkable water available on Earth" You Tube "potential water wars due to man made climate change", an Indian, Pakistan, China, water conflict could easily happen and they ALL have nukes too, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, is another potential flashpoint, dont forget that Turkey is in NATO too, so a war involving Turkey, would also involve America, the UK and France, ALL armed with nukes too, PLUS, the entire EU too, then there's a potential Egypt/Ethiopia water conflict too and Ethiopia is heavily backed by Russia,
Mexico/America is potentially another one and Russia wouldn't hesitate backing Mexico on America's front doorstep, either.
JEEZE, to make matters "even worse"
the rapid melting of the Artic permafrost,
has the genuine potential, to release deadly viruses that have been frozen in the Artic permafrost for up to and beyond 50,000 years, (Smallpox and Anthrax viruses have been detected in the frozen and rapidly thawing permafrost too) You Tube "thawing artic permafrost viruses", THIS is GENUINE SCIENCE, its definitely not some sort of "jumped up, conspiracy theory, hocus pocus, bullshit, dreamed up by, wholly uneducated, doughnut brained idiots, that won't even be alive in 10 years time, due to their old age, and/or their totally unhealthy lifestyles", I now eagerly await your response to this post too.
@@alleyoop5185”CO2 pollution” is an oxymoron.
Viruses & vaccines are a monumental scam.
What a bloody nightmare yet the EVangelists still have their fingers in their ears while shouting LA LA LA as loud as they can.
The Citroen doesn't have a great range and is best used for short runs. My EV has a better range. I can drive from the north west to Southampton without charging. Ranges are increasing all the time. I hope that helps.
@@stephenbirchall941 do the trip in the winter, with the lights on, the wipers going and the heater running. Tell me about your wonderful mileage then. As your battery ages your mileage will shrink. Don’t kid yourself, you’ve bought a very expensive bummer.
@@keegan773 it depends if your car has a heat pump or not. Newer cars do but I don't think Citroen do. With a heat pump, there is little loss. I've never had a problem. The car is fast, cheap to run and I don't need to fill up at petrol stations: it's so convenient charging at home. I've also only had to queue (briefly) twice for a supercharger.
Battery degradation is about 1pc a year which is minimal. There are Tesla's on the road with well over 200k miles and the clock and no battery issues. I hope that satisfies your queries. Don't believe all the things you hear on biased social media.
I feel your pain with the delusionists. 2 have come out of their boxes to say you're wrong already , despite this video showing what a nightmare it can . They don't seem to get the fact that people buy what they can afford and have to use it for every journey, long or short, and ignore even a cheap ICE car would've done that trip easy as piss .
@@derekdrummond7544 "even a cheap ice car would have done that trip a piece of piss". Yes and so would most EVs. My Renault Mégane e-tech has a range of 460 kms.
And all that with just a driver and nothing in the boot or on the roof. Imagine using it as a five seater.
You’d have five irked people.
Imagine the arguments and divorce rate increases 🤣
or the radio on
I think all future EV's should be designed from the ground up as camper vans. so you'll have a nice place to have a nap or sit on the throne while waiting for charging. Let's face it, the ONLY way EV's work is if you can charge it at home during the night, and never, ever needs to go further than the max range.
I just took my Mini Cooper Electric,
from London to Lands End and back, for a day out,
that's a 600 mile round trip, with an EV with a max range of 145 miles,
oh, and before leaving London, I charged it up during the day,
at my local FREE EV charging point and this trip, went like a dream too.
Thermal runaway would make me scetchy about sleeping in it😗
@@organickevinlondon How long was the trip.all up?Explain what you mean,max range of 145 miles,surely you would have need to recharge at least 4 times?
I like your thinking
@@mikehunt-w8u I set off from London, to visit Stonehenge, (its about 100 miles from London), stopping off to charge at Solsitice Services, Amesbury, to charge up, which took 25 mins, at 50 kWh, next stop, B.P. Honiton, about 78 miles from Amesbury, stopped for a toilet visit, consume some food I had bought with me and had a cup of coffee, and only charged up, while I was doing this, so it had zero impact on my journey time, next stop, Strawberry Fields Farm Shop at Lifton Devon, (ironically, Tony, who lives in Cornwall, and therefore MUST drive up the A30, on a very regular basis, said durin gobne of his videos that, there arent any fast EV chargers between Bodmin and Exeter, Lifton is about halfway between the 2, LOL) its a massive farm shop, so while on a pre planned stop there, to do some shopping, purchasing large amounts of Luscombe organic drinks, that I can get in London where I live, as its only 60 miles from Honiton and my Mini Cooper Electric, easily manages to do 4 miles per kWh, of battery, it would ahve required about 15 kWh of electricity, and the Pod Point charger was a 50 kW one, it would have taken 20 mins to get it to 99%, and I was shopping for that 20 mins, so once again, that charging stop, had zero impact on my journey time, I did actually stop before Lifton, at Postbridge, to check out the Bronze Age bridge and gift shop and information center, I could have charged up there too, as there was a 7 kW, Pod Point charger in the information centre car park, but I couldn't be bothered to do that, from Lifton I drove to Tintagel, to visit Tinagel Castle, spent some time there too, without charging, then drove on to Lands End, about 100 miles in total from Lifton, I know there is a Gridserve EV charger at Lands End as I've used it before, so I just slapped my Mini Cooper Electric on charge while I checked out the local area on foot, so on the way back, I left Lands End on a 100% full charge,. stopped to charge at Lifton, again, I was getting a bit tired by then, due to a diversion off the A30 earlier that evening so a 20 min charge break came in handy, next, I stopped at Exeter Services, for 2 coffees, one to drink and one for the flask for later, 20 mins and I'm back on the road again, for the A303 to Amesbury, and NOT the M5, M4, Bristol, London, as that A303 at night, keeps you wide awake, last charge stop at Amesbury, for 25 mins, a coffee and cleaning the mud out of the car, and giving it a vacuum, with my portable mini vac, from there, it was a 2 hour drive to my home in London, arriving home after 690 miles, with 25 miles of range left, (I'm an ex international HGV1 driver, so I KNOW exactly how to organise a long journey, no matter what vehicle I'm driving) as for the "range" of my Mini Cooper Electric, I know it will easily do, 100 miles in mid winter, at 72 mph, with the wipers, lights and heater on, off 70 mph roads, it will easily do 120 miles and in the summer, off 70 mph roads, it can do 170 miles, at the speed limits, (thats 22 in a 20, 32 in a 30, 42 in a 40, 52 in 50, and 62 in a 60, to me, so I NEVER have to worry about speed cameras either), and not below the speed limits, the car I had before I bought my Mini Cooper Electric, was a Mini Cooper 1.6 litre petrol, so it was easy, to compare these 2 very similar cars, as they are basically, EXACTLY THE SAME, other than their engine/motor and drivetrain, and the Mini Cooper Electric, shits all over the Mini Cooper ICE, it even outperforms, the John Cooper Works Mini too, the quality of the Mini Cooper Electrics handling is superb on all fronts, each week, I usually take it, 30 miles outside London at night, for a 20 mile spin around a forest, especially when its either, freezing, snowing, thats a bit rare, or when its pissing down with rain, as "its just like being on a Rally" (the B roads through Dartmoor in Devon between Exeter and Lifton, were just as twisty, and up and down some steep hills too), oh, and while in London, I charge up my Mini Cooper Electric, for FREE at my local 500 meters from my home, EV charging point, so it really is "incredibly cheaper to run, compared to a Mini Cooper ICE too".
I don't own an electric car and i'm not even bothered about electric cars. I'm even old enough to remember a time when Milk floats were actually useful but thumbs up your videos are hysterical.
EVs perfect for control of us! Why does no one get this !
Because its drivel.
I need 15 minutes charging time on the road for that journey - creepy 15 mins :-)
I'm driving in France for a fishing holiday and thank the lord I'm diesel and not EV
Or do it in a Tesla ?
@@jimsouthlondon7061Oh, you're on fire??? 😁
Why? Have you not noticed all the chargers that are everywhere?
@@brianbarcroft9167 He wanted to get there without having to hang around 6x (minimum) longer than what it would in a petrol or diesel vehicle..
@@jledge8715I drove 6.5 hrs in my EV. From Toulouse to Cassis, east of Marseilles. Stopped twice, once for a coffee break and once for lunch, 17 and 24min respectively. Car was charged before I was ready on both occasions.
I have a 2006 Citroën C4 Turbo diesel. Best car I've ever had. It does about 800 miles on a full tank, does 70MPG with normal driving and at 160K miles the engine runs like a sewing machine. There is no way I will be trading it in for an EV.
Wow..really..that's amazing state the fucking obvious....😆😂
800 miles that's bullsh1t.
@@DodgeCity111No it isn't. I've noted the diesel I've put in the car since I bought it and the distance I've travelled. It does 70 MPG and I can do 800 miles on a full tank without ever running out, so the reserve is over and above this. It has a 60 litre tank.
I also have a Citroen C4 VTi turbo diesel and get very similar results, never less than 60 mpg and 750 to 800 on a tank full. I Bought that car new 12 years ago and it’s way to good to swap yet. @@williamgeorgefraser
I could get 800 miles in my 1.9PD Octavia that had a 55 litre tank. I miss that fuel economy@@DodgeCity111
New quote "Future for the gullible"
Lapping up content like this is, yes. EV's are progressing quickly. This car had already been updated so will now do a realistic 200+ miles, which for a small battery car is good.
It's not about the technology or range. It's all to do with tax. In the UK BIK tax on company cars dictates the market. A switch from a Mercedes E-350d to a Tesla MY LR saves me nearly £30,000 over 4 years. That's a lot of money. Which is in my pocket. Not theirs.
If I had to take electric garbage across the country regularly I'd buy a diesel car transporter and load them on the back because charging would drive me insane.
Or buy a Tesla 300 mile range a super charging network
@@jimsouthlondon7061Not every one can afford a Tesla,you w@NKA.
@@jimsouthlondon7061 How would buying a Tesla assist in moving other EVs around?
@@HarryLime49A friend tows a caravan with a Tesla.
@@davecooper3238 He must enjoy sitting at charging stations.
I'm not sure I'd want to sit in an electric car named.. C4
but I AM sure, it's Dynamite.
C4 would blow it further down the road than the battery can carry it.
Could be worse, it could be a Burn Your Dwelling
I fill my 50cc scooter up twice a month, I do 20km a day. It's costs me 20 euros a month in fuel and 25 euros in insurance. I know what I'm sticking to for my city commute.
---and you don't spend ages at the pump when you do fill up. My wife's Honda 90 wouldn't even take a gallon and we filled up one day later week after week. 20 mile journey each day, home to work and back.
And Tony, I noticed that you even started your epic journey off at the EVangelists unicorn figure of 80% charge too. Fat lot of good it does though eh? Cue - You should have charged at home and all other garbage, nonsensical excuses for these utter failures of an excuse of a vehicle. Better off lighting it and getting an Uber! 🤡😆🤣🤣
Future my arse
Absolutely perfectly done!
After watching your screen show a charging rate of 26 mph, I thought it would be fun to calculate my F150’s “charging rate”. 400 miles of range in 5 minutes of fueling…..4800 mph! That’s mach 6.4 at 19 mpg! I think you’ve brought to light an entirely new statistical measuring point. Well played indeed!
EV'S what a load of shite !!!!!
Bank holiday is coming 👍 😂
Can we book our charging spaces in advance on the app 😂😂😂
@@clairemorrallee5625 B E V and Breakfast 👍🫤
Naff milk floats. You know the rule about not letting the battery drop below 15%, and never charging past 85%, supposedly to optimise battery life, well how many people can actually stick to that rule? Also, having to charge several times on the same journey can't be good for the battery either, and using fast chargers is also not good for the battery as highlighted by Kim Java regarding a Tesla on one of her videos, they are only supposed to be for emergencies. You need an ECO money tree to pay for the running costs.
that "so called 15% 85% rule???" ONLY applies to, first generation Nissan Leaf,
as they haven't got a Battery Management System.
Really? The charging speed doesn't slow down over 80% then?@@organickevinlondon
@@organickevinlondon So you know more then Elon musk?
@@Wiganpilot that stuff about Battery Management Systems, is just BOG STANDARD common EV knowledge.
@@WestfieldFreshAir when I charge up my Mini Cooper Electric, it gets up to 97% then slows down a tiny bit, from say 5% to 97% it charges up at the same amount of time, per each 1%, 97% to 98%, takes slightly longer, which isnt really noticeable, 98% to 99% takes a little bit longer, but, 99% to 100% takes a lot longer, so I just usually charge up to 99%, IF I need to use my Mini Cooper Electric in a hurry,
Think of this for a minute, how many fully grown adults did you used to see sitting in shit hole carparks while their life drains away before EV's were invented.
It's fucking mental behavior whats going on.
Anyone who gets an EV knowing at some point it's going to force them into a scummy capark needs a check up from the neck up.
Nothing in life is worth sitting in a bloody carpark for.
I agree if people have bought privately and need to do any long trips, but don't forget many company car drivers have been forced to switch to save £££ on BIK tax.
I have a BMWi4 and so far have been able to plan all over the UK - OK yes some longer stops than I'm used to but I always plan for fast DC charge, and when it saves me £400 taken in tax every month out my pay packet I'm OK with that.
I would never have gone EV unless it was the tax bribe.
I understand dogging goes on in scummy carparks..?
@@69jonhillbeat me to it😊
@@69jonhill my thought exactly 🏴
@@69jonhilldogging?
It's like flying a plane. You have to work out and file a flight plan (what route ru gonna take), work out alternate airports (chargers) for each of ur stop in case of bad weather (charger broken/not there/someone's house) all without any of the benefits of flying!
Thanks for going through all that stress so that we don't have to. ❤
They will be able to build the old coaching inns again at the charger parks, so that the five day journeys can be acheived in comfort.
Would it be worth your while to invest in a truck that you could put the EV on the back ?
It's just a ploy so you never get out further north than Somerset.
So if you had picked up an ice car with 170 miles range (1/4 tank) it would have got you 170 miles and over half way before a splash and dash/comfort break.
if you picked up an ice car with 170 mile range that someone had been grannying around at 50mph and then you drive it at 80mph and accelerate hard, it won't do the 170 mile range initially stated. The range adjusts to your driving and consumption.
It's a good vid of how crap the whole experience can be I'm sure, and I'm no way defending EV's here, but will say if you get the correct car it can work fairly easy on long distances.
I drive a company car BMWi4 - company fully pays for it & I just get taxed on it as a benefit in kind (BIK). Most EV's I see when driving I'm sure are company car drivers like myself forced to go down the route as my previous BIK tax per month on a Merc GLC220D was £470 taken out my pay packet. This EV only costs me £30 per month in BIK tax. That was almost a no brainer.
I have charge point at home - gives me 230 miles approx - then I just plan as I cover all UK for the next DC fast charge point.
OK yes 40mins wait isn't what I have been used to - and like you I can have a tab and just mill around - but for over £400 a month tax saving I'm OK to do that and plan around it. It's basically government bribery for company car drivers to force them to go electric.
I would never have bought an EV privately that's for sure - and I certainly don't feel 'green' or anything when I'm driving it as I don't believe half of all the environmental bollocks they try to tell us.
The plus side is the performance is pretty spectacular and I will say it's one of the nicest company cars I've driven in the last 30 years - something about the silence and instant power just makes it different. Cheers.
Just imagine when HMRC pull that ladder away.
@@pippip8744 And they will - I'm fully aware of that, but means must at the present. Cheers.
You just advertised the main selling feature of EVs; one can safely smoke alongside the charger and have enough time to do serious numbers.
Haha - I've been charging and having a tab at all sorts of places too - you are right, I'd have been blown up on a forecourt. 🤣
lol
Despite AI and self driving cars, they can't build a route planner that gets you to your destination without the stress of stranding.
The threat from AI is that we'll plan to depend on it, and then it won't deliver.
Fit a towbar, and get a trailer with a turbogenerator.
Probably, you could justify running it on red diesel.
Love the seats just as well as you will spend a long time sat in them 😁
A great time to start a recovery business up.
Not with an electric recovery vehicle!
I will definitely never get rid of my Hilux, a tank of eighty liters of diesel is good enough for a thousand kilometers regardless of the season.
Spreading cancer
@@jimsouthlondon7061 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You seem to have a great deal of patience. Future my arse ????
Epic in all senses of the word. The thing is, if there were enough public charging points in the UK nobody would be able to do anything else involving electricity because there would be none left. Future, my arse…
get a grip you Luddite.
I wonder why someone would complain because something wouldn’t do what it wasn’t designed to do.
Maybe the range is in KM and not miles 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What a nightmare.
Last Friday, I drove the same distance 320 miles. Difference is I did 7 hours work at a customer site and got back home that night. And the other difference is that the car has a 1.5 litre petrol engine.😊
And all the sparky sparky stuff to power that pile o shite still has to be generated. That journey as opposed to my 14yr old CLS which will do it in 4 3/4 hrs, will cost £52 and not have to stop once. Where is the sense in this shit, not a single one of these things will see 14yrs.
Pure gold! With the Easter bank holiday imminent I’m thinking it would be interesting just to drive to a motorway service station and observe all the EV owners trying to get their floats charged. Got to be more entertaining than the telly! Future, my arse.
Wouldn't do for me.
When the low fuel light comes on, I get anxious about reaching the next petrol station.
Whilst driving in an area full of them.
Mate, is it not quicker n cheaper overall to trailer em on an ifor 3 axle with a big ol disco pullin it??
Good god what the hell are people doing using these things. That is just appalling. I'm just glad its not me .
Why are people using EVs? Hold that thought. Basically, people are using EVs because they are great cars, vastly superior to ICE cars for everything except long cross-country road trips. (And towing.) But here's the thing. People who frequently do long cross-country road trips don't buy a city runabout (which is what that car is), they buy a touring car with longer range and faster charging.
And here's the rest of it. Even a car like that will get you on a journey like that reasonably effectively, if not as fast as an ICE car, and the cars are so great otherwise that it's worth an extra half-hour stop now and again. This video is simply an idiot setting out to show the world that he has no idea what he's doing. (Or more likely, he's hamming it up on purpose for the clicks.)
Last year I did central Scotland to Brighton (450 miles) in a car with a similar range to that Citroen, in about ten hours. The main causes of delay were very slow service at the restaurant where I made my first stop, and a massive traffic jam on the M25. Charging was simple, and even though it's a slow-ish charging car, each stop was 30-40 minutes.
Its about choice , i have to choose between my Toyota Hilux or my V6 Mercedes.
Or choose between breathing in cancer and asthma
@jimsouthlondon7061 like the kids mining the resources for the batteries?
@@colingregson8653
I only have 1 choice, a 4.3 V8 Lexus LS430 and I'm fine with that 😄
I think Jim has a ev and now it’s worth 000000💷
@@jimsouthlondon7061Official information about EVs is lies. All lies. Don’t be gullible.
I am heartbroken for you Buddy, it must be so soul destroying.
Seriously who has got the time to wait to charge? I'm approaching 60, time is precious and should not be spent waiting for a car to charge. I know every EV owner charges at home, but it doesn't look like they do does it?
That bloody thing would drive me mad
Bodmin, my home town. Feels a long way from my home for 15 years here in Cyprus.
I'll keep with my 2017 mitsibushi asx it's a 1.6 euro6 diesel that is 35 quid a year tax about 60 quid for a full tank and 5-600 miles