Chris, one of the biggest reasons why most people like watching even though they don’t do anything with fires or firewood is you have an awesome personality. 😎
The reason the CS590 is such a good saw, once Echo group bought out Shindaiwa, they rebranded the Shindaiwa 600sx, as the CS590, Japanese made pro saw, full aluminium crankcase, full crankshaft, no plastic engine parts like Stihl Farmboss etc. and the anti vibe on these are great! I love mine, so it cutting 32” hardwood on my channel.
I own both saws. 590 and 271. My 590 starts fast, cuts fast. Over all a better quicker saw over the 271. My 590 is always the first one out of the truck too cut. If anyone is reading this comment. Consider buying this saw. It’s a great buy. You won’t be disappointed. The crazy thing is that the 271 and 590 is at the same price point. So you know what your buying around $400. 590 is a monster
So that's a good reason to compare the two saws. I was wondering why anyone would compare a pro saw to a regular consumer grade saw. I never really check out anything but pro saws, to get the better design and build quality they have. So I didn't know they cost about the same price. Thanks for mentioning the basic cost they both share. I'd choose the Echo too, between those two saws. 😎👍
Same reasons i switched from Stihl to Echo. I've had a Echo weedeater for 17 years. I've never changed the plug, I leave fuel in it from year to year, treat it like crap and it's never failed me...starts first 3 pull every time. I now own the Echo cs-490 and cs-620 Amazing equipment!!! I'll never go back to Stihl.....
I have done several reviews of Echo power products on my channel including chainsaws and trimmers. I have been beyond impressed! The value for the price is without comparison. They truly have entered into the race with Husqvarna and Stihl especially with their "X" series which is their professional line. My only complaint is they tend to come out of the factory tuned a little too lean. Great video! 👍
The cs590s are good saws they need a little more exhaust and they come alive take and open up the deflector that sits on top off the spark arrestor. And also break off those plastic tabs on the carb adjustments and the saw wakes rite up. I have one and I love it
I own 2 Stihls, and 1 Husqvarna, and my father-in-law has an Echo (I've also got a Makita, a Homelite, a Ryobi and an Ozito, all of them 2 stroke). For what it's worth, if I had to choose one to keep and never go back, it would be the Echo, and it's not even mine! Throttles up hard, dogs in nicely, easy to clean, and just seems to want to keep going, even when I don't. If you ever see one on special, buy one to be your second string saw - best bargain you'll score in a fair while. 👍🇦🇺🙂
The Echo saws are very nice saws, my 590 is a great cutting saw, I went out and got a new Echo CS4510 (45cc) saw to have a smaller saw for limbing. The MS180 is getting tired out after 25 years
The cs-590 is not marketed as a pro saw even though it basically is with removable cylinder head, adjustable oiler,and decomp valve. It's considered a farm and ranch saw. The cs-620p is the pro version of this saw with the main differences being the aluminum wrap handle, cylinder and 2 ring piston, carb, advanced timing, and higher rpm coil. With a few mods the cs-590 is a ripper, i have two heavily modified cs-590s and love them. You won't find a better new saw for the money.
I must make a confession Chris. I recently purchased an Echo CS-680. It is considered to be in the 70cc series along with the 572 Husky saws. I do like it. I bought it used from a guy who said it was too much saw for him. Got it for $350. I am not ready to replace the 572's with this unit but it seems to be a good saw. The Husky has a little more power as it is a little larger saw. The auto-tune is a little advantageous as well. However, for the difference in price [new ~$700] versus the Husky 572 [new ~$1100] it is worth considering for some people. Just my 2 cents worth.
I recently purchased a Echo CS 590 and I am very impressed. The first thing I used it for was bucking some red oak that was 18-22" and about 40' long. With the 20", I had to double cut the thickest pieces, but it handled the tough oak with ease. It should get better with a few more tanks of gas. Down here they retail for $399 with a 20" bar. Better performance than the Stihl Farm Boss or Husqvarna Rancher at a better price. Longevity seems to be good too, but we'll see. I was also surprised at no gloves. If I only have one piece of PPE, it's my gloves. To each his (or her) own.
My father and I used to have a small engine business and sold echo. I wouldnt buy anything else. Take a husky over a stilh anymore. Stilh is more of a name brand anymore. Echo also has a 5 year consumer warranty. Cant beat that. Have 3 echo saws myself.
You have the right brand. No need to change. I own two tree companies and a firewood company and every cut is done with a Husqvarna. Best all around saws you can buy in my opinion. I’ve tried them all. Echo is second
We have a timberwolf cs590 at work and I have abused the shit out of that saw and its is impressive I like it better than my personal stihl. I've ran it for non stop 8hr days only stopping to sharpen and fuel up and it keeps coming back for me. I'm 100% a fan of echo after that saw
Great job on comparing the saws, Michelle seems more relaxed on today's video, it's always nice when folks show up and jump right in to help out, what a guy Dave is...lol. Greta job wood hounds
Bought the CS-590 with the 20" bar and the price point was better than an equal Stihl. It is more top of the line consumer model with the right amount of pro level items, but I just have a few acre to maintain and it is more than adequate saw for my needs.
Hey Chris the cs 620p is the pro version of the 590. It comes with a metal handle a little better clutch. And also a two ring piston. I kind of wish I would have bought the cs 620p. I'm perfectly happy with my 590 timberwolf.
My Echo CS-590 is a great running saw! Once broke-in, it runs really well for what it is. In my opinion, it has more torque than the Stihl or Husqvarna equivalent, which allows it to run a 24in bar better. Would love to do a side-by-side speed test with Michele's 271 and my 550xp. Maybe one day a bunch of us woodhounds can get together at Chris's woodyard and speed test our saws in a nice collaboration video. Bet Michele got some great in person lessons on how to work a log pile. I know I did when Chris visited my woodyard.
Neat opportunity to test drive Michele’s Echo. Pro version might be worth trying out if service, bars and chain availability, etc are even up or better than what you’ve been running.
The 590 is built of mostly pro construction. The top handle and clutch cover are plastic. I replace the handle with an aluminum full wrap for the 620p. I also have a 620p and the 590 runs with it almost identical. I’d only give the 620 a slight edge. I love both though.
@@livewithnick Thanks for info based on your firsthand experience. My current stable of saws are all Stihl pro series saws at this point… that’s why after stepping up from the Farm Boss to a MS462 and 500i, I was blown away by the upgrade in power and cutting efficiency. So, I would recommend those who cut a lot and can invest in their tools, give the pro series saws a try to see what gains in power and productivity they offer. I have had great service out of Echo trimmers and blowers, but with a super Stihl dealer within a mile, I haven’t tried Echo’s chainsaws.
I have used Stihl for decades, and that is the rub my 041’s and 028’s measured there service life in decades not years (nowadays you might be lucky to get 10 years) I have a new 362 and its a great saw but so is my Echo 355t, I have to admit Echo is making some great saws these days but they are both moving toward big box retailer growth and thats usually the kiss of death for quality.
I told you Echo's were no joke lol. If your serious about Echo, jump to the CS620P, its still a 59cc saw but built a bit more for commercial use with aluminum handle, Magnesium crankcase cover and the sprocket is replaceable and my dealer said the piston and airflow are different but that could have been him blowing smoke, lol. One of the best things is the price...a 620P is about half the price of a Husquvarna or Sthil. If you end up with an Echo 590 or 620P one thing you want to do is buy a set of o rings and put the right size on the air filter nub that goes into the carb area, the air filter is really good but I guess you can get some finer dust going by it.
Sorry to disagree Tom but the Echo CS800P is garbage. The only really great Echo’s currently made are the CS620P and the CS7310P. If your a tree climber the CS2511T is OK because of weight but lacks power due to the restrictions on the muffler. The rest of the lineup needs a refresh like the CS7310P.
If I was to get back into firewood I would go with axis that Ohio wood burner has with lift on 1 side and a conveyer on the other. I know I would have big wood to deal with. I like echo saws better then sthil and I own/operate husqvarna saws now and my next saw I buy will most likely be an echo. Have a great day be safe.
The CS-590 Timber wolf is not their pro saw, in that size the pro saw is a CS-620P. It has a bigger carb and unlimited coil. However you can greatly improve the CS-590 with a 10 minute muffler mod. That said the CS-590 is the best under $500 saw out there. You can still get them with bar and chain for around $400. The CS-62P has about 25% more power but couple hundred bucks more. P.S. you can buy after market spikes for the CS-590 you just have to Dremel out the small plastic and then you can run felling spikes from both sides.
Nice to see the Echo and Stihl in action, thank you. One can only compare/contrast what's at hand. Just checked prices on Australian Stihl and Echo web sites Stihl MS 271, 50.2cc, $999 Au Echo CS-590, *59.8cc, $1,449 Au* Key variables not controlled = unfair comparison. A practically perfect price and cc match to the Echo CS-590 for comparison is: Stihl MS 311, *59cc, $1,449 Au* Key variables matching nicely = fair test design Also: HUSQVARNA 460, *60.3cc, $1,439 Au* Would match/control these prime variables for a fair comparison. I like to see vids comparing price and cc matched chainsaws, in same wood with same cutter and with chain freshly sharpened and raker matched i.e. variables considered well. Honest and competent information (with well designed and implemented tests) is rare on YT and could be a stand out. Would you consider pre-planning and putting some in with the full power of your competence and professionalism? sincerely david
@@InTheWoodyard Good ideas ... I though so but on second thought ... not so good unless well thought out. There are a lot of such attempts and most fail on YT because many are looking for a winner or meaningful results ... and they just can't be given unless you use such a thing to show the really meaningful result, which is not what most are looking for! Some videos become YT benchmarks, standards that are referred to. e.g. YT vids of how much does a cord of wood weigh, do one or two names/channels come to mind? It might be possible to make a series of little benchmarks that become a solid benchmark and set your channel up as a standard setter in this way but more so than the cord of wood example. The initial objective would be to do a series of well designed, controlled tests on price and cc matched saws *always with the same/similar test conditions.* I think you could do this well. I have some more thoughts on how to go about this solidly, simply and effectively. If you're interested it could become a little world changer because it's mostly not the saw - it's the man/woman. sincerely david
Wonder what Chris would have to say if a bunch of us snuck into his woodyard and bucked up a truckload of logs for him. Getting exercise while doing hard physical labor is so satisfying.
I have found out over the years,, if you can cut from the bottom up ,, the blade stays cooler ,,, it cleans out better ,,, using the top part of the bar the chain stays oiled better ,, it cleans the saw dust out good and you don't have to run your saw at such a HIGH RPM...
@@InTheWoodyard you will learn ... WATCH THE KICKBACK.. WHEN YOU GET TIME ON A SAW YOU WILL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT( MEANING NO DISRESPECT) ON DIFFERENT PART OF A LO YUO WILL KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE TO LAY INTO A SAW AND GIVE IT MORE RPMS. AFTER THAT CHAIN GOES AROUND THE TIP OF BAR IT LOOSES 2/3 OF ITS OIL..
Hello from Piqua Ohio. I have that cs590 timberwolf 20 inch bar. I also have the cs7310 p with a 28 inch bar and the cs800p 32 inch bar. All very reliable chainsaws.
Good Morning Chris - Hey, do we hear an Echo in the woodyard? I like Michelle. Not a lot of words, but a person that knows what they like, and Michelle is comfortable in the Woodyard. Your reviews of other equipment have value since you can compare them to your regular saws. Your comments carry weight and you clearly state what you do or don't like and why. Right off the bat, I thought that magnet mounted width gauge would be in the way, and it was. but with the longer bars, one seldom needs to bring the saw that close in, especially when you are bending over or reaching into the pile. I subscribed to Michelle's channel.
Good mornig there woodchucking Chris, when you first started chucking those rounds, I thought for sure you were going to take out your tripod, lol. Great comparison between the two. I have had the echo cs590 since spring and love it. I also have the good ole stihl 066 with 36" bar for huge stuff and couple older homelite xl's for trim saws. I'm all over the board with saws and as long as they stay tuned and sharp, they all work great for me. Enough rambling, lol. Chris and and wood-hound friends, God bless and be safe!
I have an echo timberwolf 590 i like it but started having carb issue where it wouldn't stay running or it would run where chain would turn at idle. I tried adjusting carb but didn't get good results either way. I like saw but might need a new carb or have shop look at it. I love my ms261 pro saw light has power and with the pro chain it cuts alot better than safety chains.
The echo 590 is a home owner model ,the 620p is the pro model there are many differences in the 2 saws. the echo 7310p is ecos largest pro saw they are nice saws
@@InTheWoodyard I was just kind of missing around the eco 590 is a great saw I think it's the design that feels heavy to me I rather get the572 or the 462 but, the 590 does kick ass.
Chris, you could not sit back as others cut or split. If you had premium firewood that would be how you spent your day. Was great to watch you use the echo.
IMO, this is not exactly a fair comparison. A 60cc Echo with a pro chain vs a 50cc Stihl with a safety chain. I'm an Echo fanboy, but I also think Stihls are good saws too. BTW, my main saw is a CS-590 (which is probably why this video popped up in my feed). I DO like the fact that the 60cc Echo has less vibration than a 50cc Stihl. I also like that the Echo is cheaper too, at least around here. Hard to beat the value of the Echo.
I'm glad you did the Echo CS590 it's what I use as my big saw. TH-camr Tinman Saws does a good series of videos on this model on how to liven it up, if that's your thing. In not bothering it's fine for me as is. Plus for $400 it's a good deal, and there warranty is better than stihl and Husky.
This video makes it pretty obvious as to why you like the 24" bars and gutsy saws. You are as good with the front 1/3 of the bar as anyone I've ever seen, but look so much more comfortable and balanced with the long bar and power. Did you let her try one of your saws?
Wow that 590 was pig rich 😂 Should try a properly tuned 620p totally different animal They have a metal handle not plastic. Rim drive sprocket Different timing numbers and piston along with coil and carburetor A stock 620p will pull a 24 full house with AUTHORITY I can definitely appreciate a female doing the firewood thing tho
I guess that makes you the supervisor now because I scored the cutting a dead heat and Michelle is way better looking. There's a new wood chuck in town. Long live the Queen. I got a new Stihl 180 a while ago and it's an angry ant cutting through limb wood and smaller trees. It's the only saw I've ever run where I wasn't looking forward to putting it down.
@@InTheWoodyard 590 is restricted by coil n carb for emissions they are like a govenor on a 4 stroke, wanna see a step by step process look up tinmans saws on here he pulled one apart and ported it qnd threw 620 parts on it took a little adjusting but he got the cut time down a crazy ammount
Good morning Chris! Its a beautiful day to be "cuttin". Thanks for another awesome video. I'm glad you showcased Michelle's Echo chainsaw. Like you, I do like Japanese products. I've used Echo products (lawnmowers, trimmers..) for years and they are good. They've never failed me yet. By the way, what average size are those logs before you cut them down?
Now when you’re done with those farm & fleet toyland playskool saws (this includes the husky’s), grapple on a Dolmar. Nothing but big eyes and st,st, studders
@@InTheWoodyard so is there a parts dealer near you ,to where you can buy your parts (on sight ) and get back out cutting wood ,,,??? daylight hours are short ,,,, I need to keep cutting .. with no delays ... or waiting for parts...
Hey Chris. Great video. Just saying before you buy that size of echo if your really thinking about it, try the husky 562xp first. Then make your decision. I got nothing against echo. Been trying one some at work but I do love my 562xp. I grab my 562xp more often than my 572xp just because it lighter and seems to have a bit more throttle response than my 572xp and revs a wee bit higher than my 572xp.
Chris, one of the biggest reasons why most people like watching even though they don’t do anything with fires or firewood is you have an awesome personality. 😎
True statement right here
I started watching Chris when researching how to start a firewood business over a year ago. Basically I've been watching him from the beginning.
@@thefirewooddoctor Yup same here I think I joined up like at episode 30 or something that.
I started watching around episode 6 and have been hooked ever since..😊👍
Thanks Frank, I guess I must be a okay actor! HA!
I’m glad to see someone testing the Echo, I switched to Echo from Stihl and love it.
Nice to know!
The reason the CS590 is such a good saw, once Echo group bought out Shindaiwa, they rebranded the Shindaiwa 600sx, as the CS590, Japanese made pro saw, full aluminium crankcase, full crankshaft, no plastic engine parts like Stihl Farmboss etc. and the anti vibe on these are great! I love mine, so it cutting 32” hardwood on my channel.
Yup, they make great saws!
I own both saws. 590 and 271. My 590 starts fast, cuts fast. Over all a better quicker saw over the 271. My 590 is always the first one out of the truck too cut. If anyone is reading this comment. Consider buying this saw. It’s a great buy. You won’t be disappointed. The crazy thing is that the 271 and 590 is at the same price point. So you know what your buying around $400. 590 is a monster
It did cut nice!
@@InTheWoodyard 271 is a good saw don’t get me wrong. I love that saw of mines but better buy and performance and quality you gotta go with the 590
So that's a good reason to compare the two saws. I was wondering why anyone would compare a pro saw to a regular consumer grade saw. I never really check out anything but pro saws, to get the better design and build quality they have. So I didn't know they cost about the same price.
Thanks for mentioning the basic cost they both share. I'd choose the Echo too, between those two saws. 😎👍
Same reasons i switched from Stihl to Echo. I've had a Echo weedeater for 17 years. I've never changed the plug, I leave fuel in it from year to year, treat it like crap and it's never failed me...starts first 3 pull every time. I now own the Echo cs-490 and cs-620 Amazing equipment!!!
I'll never go back to Stihl.....
Yup, they make great stuff at a great price!
I have done several reviews of Echo power products on my channel including chainsaws and trimmers. I have been beyond impressed! The value for the price is without comparison. They truly have entered into the race with Husqvarna and Stihl especially with their "X" series which is their professional line. My only complaint is they tend to come out of the factory tuned a little too lean. Great video! 👍
Thanks Mr. Bradley, I just subscribed to your channel, nice 500i ya got there!
💥 I love my CS-590 and now that it’s broke in it even runs better!
*Keep on tractoring!*
Good to know! You are the man Jon!
The cs590s are good saws they need a little more exhaust and they come alive take and open up the deflector that sits on top off the spark arrestor. And also break off those plastic tabs on the carb adjustments and the saw wakes rite up. I have one and I love it
That is good to know! Thanks Anna!
Love all my echo equipment. Best bang for the buck. My 7310 and 620 are both cutting machines.
Nice!
I own 2 Stihls, and 1 Husqvarna, and my father-in-law has an Echo (I've also got a Makita, a Homelite, a Ryobi and an Ozito, all of them 2 stroke). For what it's worth, if I had to choose one to keep and never go back, it would be the Echo, and it's not even mine! Throttles up hard, dogs in nicely, easy to clean, and just seems to want to keep going, even when I don't. If you ever see one on special, buy one to be your second string saw - best bargain you'll score in a fair while. 👍🇦🇺🙂
Thanks Tassie, that is good to know!
Been watching your videos for months now. I purchased the echo 590cs because of value. Glad to see you like it.
Great to hear!
The Echo saws are very nice saws, my 590 is a great cutting saw, I went out and got a new Echo CS4510 (45cc) saw to have a smaller saw for limbing. The MS180 is getting tired out after 25 years
Chris should look into the 4510 for a limbing saw if he climbs a tree.
Nice to know!
The cs-590 is not marketed as a pro saw even though it basically is with removable cylinder head, adjustable oiler,and decomp valve. It's considered a farm and ranch saw. The cs-620p is the pro version of this saw with the main differences being the aluminum wrap handle, cylinder and 2 ring piston, carb, advanced timing, and higher rpm coil. With a few mods the cs-590 is a ripper, i have two heavily modified cs-590s and love them. You won't find a better new saw for the money.
Awesome....thanks for the info!
I have the cs590, I had always been a stihl guy until 5-6 years ago and went with a few husqvarna saws, this echo has been amazing this year.
Everyone talk to about Echos love them.
I grew up with echo products and do not intend to switch to anything else. quality products.
Yup, good stuff!
I must make a confession Chris. I recently purchased an Echo CS-680. It is considered to be in the 70cc series along with the 572 Husky saws. I do like it. I bought it used from a guy who said it was too much saw for him. Got it for $350. I am not ready to replace the 572's with this unit but it seems to be a good saw. The Husky has a little more power as it is a little larger saw. The auto-tune is a little advantageous as well. However, for the difference in price [new ~$700] versus the Husky 572 [new ~$1100] it is worth considering for some people. Just my 2 cents worth.
I like your 2 cents sense!
Great video!! Glad you experienced the Echo and gave a review. Nice day to be in the Woodyard. Have a Safe Day
I want to try more!
I have an Echo cs-620p with a 24" bar. Great saw.
Nice! I would like to try all the Echo saws!
I recently purchased a Echo CS 590 and I am very impressed. The first thing I used it for was bucking some red oak that was 18-22" and about 40' long. With the 20", I had to double cut the thickest pieces, but it handled the tough oak with ease. It should get better with a few more tanks of gas. Down here they retail for $399 with a 20" bar. Better performance than the Stihl Farm Boss or Husqvarna Rancher at a better price. Longevity seems to be good too, but we'll see. I was also surprised at no gloves. If I only have one piece of PPE, it's my gloves. To each his (or her) own.
Yes, I was impressed with the Echo too!
My father and I used to have a small engine business and sold echo. I wouldnt buy anything else. Take a husky over a stilh anymore. Stilh is more of a name brand anymore. Echo also has a 5 year consumer warranty. Cant beat that. Have 3 echo saws myself.
They do make good stuff!
My go to saw is a cs600p. Same cc as the 590 just a little more robust I believe. Works great and doesn't get bogged down to easily.
Nice, I would love to try one!
It is basically a ported 590. Love my CS600p version 2!
I have a CS 400 stock. Love it for basic yard work and tree removal
Yup, nice saw...I just ran one...you will see it here soon!
You have the right brand. No need to change. I own two tree companies and a firewood company and every cut is done with a Husqvarna. Best all around saws you can buy in my opinion. I’ve tried them all. Echo is second
Good to know, I like to try them to compare when I can!
We have a timberwolf cs590 at work and I have abused the shit out of that saw and its is impressive I like it better than my personal stihl. I've ran it for non stop 8hr days only stopping to sharpen and fuel up and it keeps coming back for me. I'm 100% a fan of echo after that saw
Me too, it was nice!
I bought a echo because my dad has had the same saw an echo since the 80s Can’t complain one bit about my echo
Yup! they make good stuff!
Great job on comparing the saws, Michelle seems more relaxed on today's video, it's always nice when folks show up and jump right in to help out, what a guy Dave is...lol. Greta job wood hounds
Yup, firewood people are good folks!
Bought an echo cs610 secondhand 5 yrs with a 20inch bar amazing saw easy to start a roars trip anything wouldn’t go back to a Stihl now
Others have said the same thing! They are nice saws!
Bought the CS-590 with the 20" bar and the price point was better than an equal Stihl. It is more top of the line consumer model with the right amount of pro level items, but I just have a few acre to maintain and it is more than adequate saw for my needs.
That is good!
Same! Echo is my saw of choice
I was impressed with the saw! I would like to try more!
That is one hard working young lady!!
Yes!
Hey Chris the cs 620p is the pro version of the 590. It comes with a metal handle a little better clutch. And also a two ring piston. I kind of wish I would have bought the cs 620p. I'm perfectly happy with my 590 timberwolf.
Also diff coil
N believe carb
Nice call!
Good idea!
Good idea!
Two thumbs up, good to see all your friends helping you out.
Yes, they are, especially if there name is David!
Been Running my CS-45 with a 19’ bar for ten years and it’s never missed a beat.
Echo makes good stuff, I was impressed!
My Dad bought an Echo back in the mid 80s still running.. Unfortunately it doesn't get used as offton.. Guess I could fix that issue once in a while..
Go for it !
My Echo CS-590 is a great running saw! Once broke-in, it runs really well for what it is. In my opinion, it has more torque than the Stihl or Husqvarna equivalent, which allows it to run a 24in bar better. Would love to do a side-by-side speed test with Michele's 271 and my 550xp. Maybe one day a bunch of us woodhounds can get together at Chris's woodyard and speed test our saws in a nice collaboration video. Bet Michele got some great in person lessons on how to work a log pile. I know I did when Chris visited my woodyard.
550 gonna be faster runs on way higher rpms
Some day that is a good idea!
That is probably right!
There's already a couple video's where the Husky 550 XP is faster than the 261.
Trust me ,the 550xp
will murder the 271. I’ve got a 550 and a Stihl 261c (pro 50cc) and the 550’is the stronger/faster saw.
One nice thing about the echo is you can use the pull starter handle to take off the fuel and oil cap👍
Good tip!
Neat opportunity to test drive Michele’s Echo. Pro version might be worth trying out if service, bars and chain availability, etc are even up or better than what you’ve been running.
Nice to know!
The 590 is built of mostly pro construction. The top handle and clutch cover are plastic. I replace the handle with an aluminum full wrap for the 620p. I also have a 620p and the 590 runs with it almost identical. I’d only give the 620 a slight edge. I love both though.
@@livewithnick Thanks for info based on your firsthand experience. My current stable of saws are all Stihl pro series saws at this point… that’s why after stepping up from the Farm Boss to a MS462 and 500i, I was blown away by the upgrade in power and cutting efficiency. So, I would recommend those who cut a lot and can invest in their tools, give the pro series saws a try to see what gains in power and productivity they offer. I have had great service out of Echo trimmers and blowers, but with a super Stihl dealer within a mile, I haven’t tried Echo’s chainsaws.
20 here in tupper lake this am just taking lunch break heading back out
Get after it Chris!
I have used Stihl for decades, and that is the rub my 041’s and 028’s measured there service life in decades not years (nowadays you might be lucky to get 10 years) I have a new 362 and its a great saw but so is my Echo 355t, I have to admit Echo is making some great saws these days but they are both moving toward big box retailer growth and thats usually the kiss of death for quality.
Yup, but I think all 3 companies are making pro saws that are getting better and better....competition!
@@InTheWoodyard better and better at performance perhaps but not really better at long term reliability.
I told you Echo's were no joke lol. If your serious about Echo, jump to the CS620P, its still a 59cc saw but built a bit more for commercial use with aluminum handle, Magnesium crankcase cover and the sprocket is replaceable and my dealer said the piston and airflow are different but that could have been him blowing smoke, lol. One of the best things is the price...a 620P is about half the price of a Husquvarna or Sthil. If you end up with an Echo 590 or 620P one thing you want to do is buy a set of o rings and put the right size on the air filter nub that goes into the carb area, the air filter is really good but I guess you can get some finer dust going by it.
Yes, they make some good stuff!
Just got a cs590 good saw for the money man
I think so too!
@@InTheWoodyard but you got them xps that 590 should be like a baby saw 😂
Echo makes great products.
The 80cc would suite you fine. Nice to have good people in your life to help out
Sorry to disagree Tom but the Echo CS800P is garbage. The only really great Echo’s currently made are the CS620P and the CS7310P. If your a tree climber the CS2511T is OK because of weight but lacks power due to the restrictions on the muffler. The rest of the lineup needs a refresh like the CS7310P.
Yes, firewood people are great!
I have heard the 7310 is good!
Cool comparison, awesome, thanks! -Brad
Glad you liked it Brad!
Where comparing a 60cc saw to a 50cc saw ,. A huge difference. A better comparison would be stihls 036 , 361. Or echo 50 cc saw the 4910 to the 271.
yup, just trying the 2 brands out.
9cc's and the difference in chains would make a huge difference. Your comparison was not apples to apples in my humble opinion
ok
If I was to get back into firewood I would go with axis that Ohio wood burner has with lift on 1 side and a conveyer on the other. I know I would have big wood to deal with. I like echo saws better then sthil and I own/operate husqvarna saws now and my next saw I buy will most likely be an echo. Have a great day be safe.
Thanks for the good advice and info Arthur!
What a great video! That covers it....looking forward to tomorrow as always
Thanks for watching!
I Really like my 036 stihl
Yup, they make great saws!
That husky at the end was angry , but the Echos are in the game for sure .
Yes!
Chris we use Echos love the new 4910 and 7310 also use the Efco saws and log in the woods everyday with them
Nice!
I have a 93 year old friend who still uses his chain saws, one is an Echo and don't remember what the other is but he prefers the Echo.
Wow that is cool!
The CS-590 Timber wolf is not their pro saw, in that size the pro saw is a CS-620P. It has a bigger carb and unlimited coil. However you can greatly improve the CS-590 with a 10 minute muffler mod. That said the CS-590 is the best under $500 saw out there. You can still get them with bar and chain for around $400. The CS-62P has about 25% more power but couple hundred bucks more. P.S. you can buy after market spikes for the CS-590 you just have to Dremel out the small plastic and then you can run felling spikes from both sides.
At my local Echo dealer, they have a 620P for $550.
Thanks for the info doohnad!
Nice to see the Echo and Stihl in action, thank you.
One can only compare/contrast what's at hand.
Just checked prices on Australian Stihl and Echo web sites
Stihl MS 271, 50.2cc, $999 Au
Echo CS-590, *59.8cc, $1,449 Au*
Key variables not controlled = unfair comparison.
A practically perfect price and cc match to the Echo CS-590 for comparison is:
Stihl MS 311, *59cc, $1,449 Au*
Key variables matching nicely = fair test design
Also:
HUSQVARNA 460, *60.3cc, $1,439 Au*
Would match/control these prime variables for a fair comparison.
I like to see vids comparing price and cc matched chainsaws, in same wood with same cutter and with chain freshly sharpened and raker matched i.e. variables considered well. Honest and competent information (with well designed and implemented tests) is rare on YT and could be a stand out. Would you consider pre-planning and putting some in with the full power of your competence and professionalism?
sincerely
david
Good ideas, if I can fit it in! My favorite saw is the sharp one that runs great.
@@InTheWoodyard
Good ideas ... I though so but on second thought ... not so good unless well thought out.
There are a lot of such attempts and most fail on YT because many are looking for a winner or meaningful results ... and they just can't be given unless you use such a thing to show the really meaningful result, which is not what most are looking for!
Some videos become YT benchmarks, standards that are referred to.
e.g. YT vids of how much does a cord of wood weigh, do one or two names/channels come to mind?
It might be possible to make a series of little benchmarks that become a solid benchmark and set your channel up as a standard setter in this way but more so than the cord of wood example. The initial objective would be to do a series of well designed, controlled tests on price and cc matched saws *always with the same/similar test conditions.* I think you could do this well.
I have some more thoughts on how to go about this solidly, simply and effectively. If you're interested it could become a little world changer because it's mostly not the saw - it's the man/woman.
sincerely
david
G’morning Fellow Firewood Fanatics. Awesome show today. I love my Echo 7310. She rips ! GoodNightIrene
Thanks Corey!
Good morning, Teamwork! Echo sounded 💪 Take Care and be Safe 🚜🪵👍🏼🇺🇸
Thanks! You too!
Wonder what Chris would have to say if a bunch of us snuck into his woodyard and bucked up a truckload of logs for him. Getting exercise while doing hard physical labor is so satisfying.
I like it!
I have found out over the years,,
if you can cut from the bottom up ,, the blade stays cooler ,,, it cleans out better ,,, using the top part of the bar the chain stays oiled better ,, it cleans the saw dust out good and you don't have to run your saw at such a HIGH RPM...
I use both sides! I am not picky, what ever is the better or open cut spot works for me.
@@InTheWoodyard you will learn ...
WATCH THE KICKBACK..
WHEN YOU GET TIME ON A SAW YOU WILL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT( MEANING NO DISRESPECT) ON DIFFERENT PART OF A LO YUO WILL KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE TO LAY INTO A SAW AND GIVE IT MORE RPMS.
AFTER THAT CHAIN GOES AROUND THE TIP OF BAR IT LOOSES 2/3 OF ITS OIL..
Hello from Piqua Ohio. I have that cs590 timberwolf 20 inch bar. I also have the cs7310 p with a 28 inch bar and the cs800p 32 inch bar. All very reliable chainsaws.
I liked it, the 7310 would be nice to try out!
I use the pull -tie method for measuring my logs like you do.
Great!
Good Morning Chris - Hey, do we hear an Echo in the woodyard? I like Michelle. Not a lot of words, but a person that knows what they like, and Michelle is comfortable in the Woodyard. Your reviews of other equipment have value since you can compare them to your regular saws. Your comments carry weight and you clearly state what you do or don't like and why. Right off the bat, I thought that magnet mounted width gauge would be in the way, and it was. but with the longer bars, one seldom needs to bring the saw that close in, especially when you are bending over or reaching into the pile. I subscribed to Michelle's channel.
Thanks, glad you watched David!
Good mornig there woodchucking Chris, when you first started chucking those rounds, I thought for sure you were going to take out your tripod, lol. Great comparison between the two. I have had the echo cs590 since spring and love it. I also have the good ole stihl 066 with 36" bar for huge stuff and couple older homelite xl's for trim saws. I'm all over the board with saws and as long as they stay tuned and sharp, they all work great for me. Enough rambling, lol. Chris and and wood-hound friends, God bless and be safe!
Yup, sharp is the most important!
I have an echo timberwolf 590 i like it but started having carb issue where it wouldn't stay running or it would run where chain would turn at idle. I tried adjusting carb but didn't get good results either way. I like saw but might need a new carb or have shop look at it. I love my ms261 pro saw light has power and with the pro chain it cuts alot better than safety chains.
The echo 590 is a home owner model ,the 620p is the pro model there are many differences in the 2 saws. the echo 7310p is ecos largest pro saw they are nice saws
I have heard good things about there saws!
Chris you had me at 590. I have two of those a 590 and the red cousin Shindaiwa 591. Take care, Ben. #ogaoutdoors
They are nice saws!
Good times and good company in the woodyard! I thought Tony was going to show up next!🤣 👍🏻👍🏻GNI
Next time!
The cs-590 is a good cutting saw only it's too heavy with what it weighs I'll be better off buying a 592 XP
I have used both an the Echo 590 is a lot lighter that the Husqvarna 592
@@InTheWoodyard I was just kind of missing around the eco 590 is a great saw I think it's the design that feels heavy to me I rather get the572 or the 462 but, the 590 does kick ass.
I’ve got the same Echo saw. I dig it.
Cool!
I have had my cs590 for 10 years now and it’s still running like I took it out of the box. I do want to get a bigger echo though
Nice, it was a good saw!
Chris, you could not sit back as others cut or split. If you had premium firewood that would be how you spent your day.
Was great to watch you use the echo.
Thanks Donald!
IMO, this is not exactly a fair comparison. A 60cc Echo with a pro chain vs a 50cc Stihl with a safety chain. I'm an Echo fanboy, but I also think Stihls are good saws too. BTW, my main saw is a CS-590 (which is probably why this video popped up in my feed). I DO like the fact that the 60cc Echo has less vibration than a 50cc Stihl. I also like that the Echo is cheaper too, at least around here. Hard to beat the value of the Echo.
Fair enough! I agree, Echo makes some good stuff!
I'm glad you did the Echo CS590 it's what I use as my big saw. TH-camr Tinman Saws does a good series of videos on this model on how to liven it up, if that's your thing. In not bothering it's fine for me as is. Plus for $400 it's a good deal, and there warranty is better than stihl and Husky.
For $400 it is a very nice saw!
This video makes it pretty obvious as to why you like the 24" bars and gutsy saws. You are as good with the front 1/3 of the bar as anyone I've ever seen, but look so much more comfortable and balanced with the long bar and power. Did you let her try one of your saws?
Thanks Larry, Michele has run them before.
Love my echo Timberwolf and also love your videos man i learn a lot from you!
Awesome, thank you!
I saved my 590 timberwolf for the end of the day cutting. I use the other two big saws first.
Good call!
I really like Michele. She is alot like me. Similar interests.
Yup, she is a good one!
Both saws are great, I own both models, now to find chains that last more than 20 minutes cutting hard wood.
Great point! Thanks for watching Brian!
Between her Wolfridge log splitter and yours which one cost more
I think the wolf ridge is more but my splitter is the smallest one Eastonmade makes.
Wow that 590 was pig rich 😂
Should try a properly tuned 620p totally different animal
They have a metal handle not plastic. Rim drive sprocket
Different timing numbers and piston along with coil and carburetor
A stock 620p will pull a 24 full house with AUTHORITY
I can definitely appreciate a female doing the firewood thing tho
Thanks for watching!
Picked up a cs680 with a 27" bar, three-years ago. Never regretted it. Drop it on a log and let er rip.
Nice, I would like to try out the bigger Echo saws!
I have never run an echo either!! GNI
Yes you do!
I guess that makes you the supervisor now because I scored the cutting a dead heat and Michelle is way better looking.
There's a new wood chuck in town.
Long live the Queen.
I got a new Stihl 180 a while ago and it's an angry ant cutting through limb wood and smaller trees.
It's the only saw I've ever run where I wasn't looking forward to putting it down.
Ha! That is great TBone!
Good video
Glad you enjoyed
If you like the 590 find you a 620p youll love it or put a 620 coil n carb on your 590
Thanks!
@@InTheWoodyard 590 is restricted by coil n carb for emissions they are like a govenor on a 4 stroke, wanna see a step by step process look up tinmans saws on here he pulled one apart and ported it qnd threw 620 parts on it took a little adjusting but he got the cut time down a crazy ammount
Good morning Chris! Its a beautiful day to be "cuttin". Thanks for another awesome video. I'm glad you showcased Michelle's Echo chainsaw. Like you, I do like Japanese products. I've used Echo products (lawnmowers, trimmers..) for years and they are good. They've never failed me yet. By the way, what average size are those logs before you cut them down?
All the logs I get from the loggers around here are cut to 100" for the paper mill industry in the Great lakes states.
You're getting spoiled Chris. Nice video.
HA! I like toys!
Now when you’re done with those farm & fleet toyland playskool saws (this includes the husky’s), grapple on a Dolmar. Nothing but big eyes and st,st, studders
Thought Makita bought them out, quit making Dolmar.
Really?
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Thanks T-man!
Good morning from Grand Forks
Hello Dean!
🤘
Thanks!
It’s 530 here
Thanks for watching!
It's great to see that you had excellent helpers today! Hercules even showed up! Where's the elusive Tony at?
HA!
I like that echos still have old school carbs. (Not that autotune/mtronic isn't cool too)
Can't wait to see you get a 592xp!
They make some good stuff! Me too!
Like Tom Sawyer whitewashing the fence!
HA! I resemble that remark!
IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING PARTS !!!!
WERE IS THE NEAREST
ECHO DEALER AT
2-3 WEEKS OUT !!!!!!
Everyone is having a hard time with parts!
@@InTheWoodyard so is there a parts dealer near you ,to where you can buy your parts (on sight ) and get back out cutting wood ,,,???
daylight hours are short ,,,,
I need to keep cutting ..
with no delays ...
or waiting for parts...
Hey Chris. Great video. Just saying before you buy that size of echo if your really thinking about it, try the husky 562xp first. Then make your decision. I got nothing against echo. Been trying one some at work but I do love my 562xp. I grab my 562xp more often than my 572xp just because it lighter and seems to have a bit more throttle response than my 572xp and revs a wee bit higher than my 572xp.
I will check it out, I would like to run a 562!
I concur. The 562xp is a sweet saw and that's what I have in my work truck. At home, I was spending my money, so I have a CS-590.
I own a echo Cs8000 with a 32 inch on it
I would love to run a bigger one some day!
Whats your opinion on the magnet measuring device vs your zip tie method ?
It is okay but it does fall off sometimes.
Great video. I've seen a few of yours now. I will subscribe
Thanks a bunch Chris, I have about 500 videos for you to get caught up with, you have work to do! HA!
You should try the 7310
I would love to!
when cutting firewood i use a longer bar so i dont have to bend over so much.
Yup, me too, I like a 24" bar myself.