Watch this car review before you buy! 2023 GWM Haval Jolion review (Jolion S small SUV test)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2024
- This car looks so good on paper, but is so disappointing in reality
It has all the right ingredients to make for an impressive small SUV - a five-star ANCAP safety rating, a spacious interior, decent styling, sharp prices, a long warranty and lots of tech. But it's like they handed the recipe to a six-year-old and asked them to bake the cake, because this is a flop, in my opinion.
For this test I spent a week with 2023 GWM Haval Jolion S, which is the newest addition to the small SUV range from the Chinese brand - it has more power and torque than the standard models, a black exterior styling pack, and revised suspension.
But just like the other Haval Jolion models I've tested, it is a really annoying car to live with. If only the brand spent a bit more time fine-tuning the technology and powertrain before it released this car, it could well be a great option. But as it is, I am convinced you can do a lot better.
Watch this (rather long!) video to see what I'm on about.
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00:00 Intro
00:43 Is it the right price?
01:54 What's the best competitor?
03:18 Is it the right size?
04:26 Interior
08:51 Under the bonnet
09:38 Driving
14:19 Efficiency
15:13 Is it safe?
16:23 Ownership
17:00 Verdict
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Just bought a S. Best value for money suv in the market. The finishes are premium. Styling is awesome. And I was pleasantly surprised with the power it packs for a 1.5. Within 5 minutes of the test drive, I said to the salesman that I was convinced. We had to go back to choose a color. Chose the red, just like one in the video. But would probably go with the grey if I could choose again. It looks quite edgy with the black rims.
I bought a Jolion S couple of days a go and so far is the best car I've ever driven on my life
I’m glad you love it. I didn’t. But I’ve driven literally thousands of cars, so it takes a lot to get to “best car I’ve ever driven” status.
Is it your first car you have driven. ?
@@therightcarHave you driven anything except Toyota $hit?
@farhadhamza6001 What you can't read??
So much negativity…cups holders? Seriously? You would love BMW stitching on the seats……. Prefer fake leather than normal from ethical reasons…..
I own the Jolion Hybrid - I like, but not love it. The price was right, and the features very good. Here in Thailand, the only competition for a hybrid in this range was the Toyota Corolla Cross, which has a crap interior in comparison, and costs US$8K more. Frankly, I can live with the quirkiness. Who needs volume buttons, when they're on the steering wheel or backwards/forward steering wheel adjust, when you can simply move the seat? Today, I do 90% freeway driving, so I don't get the economy from the hybrid, but it's still averaging 8km/100km. It has great pick up even in normal mode, and a smooth transition from petrol to EV. Gripes would be mostly associated with the overbearing safety system, which can be moderated from the screen. Matt is correct about the climate controls, which are far too hard to get to. I've gone 7K km, and find the Hybrid to be great value for $$. I bought it with a view to keep it at least 2-3 years, and then see, but so far so good.
Thanks for your thoughts, Jeffrey.
Those who hate the Jolion just put a Toyota Badge on it you will see them praising it. Suzuki is an example in South Africa
very true 🤣😆
Yeah nah, Suzukis are actually good.
It amazing to me how to the Suzuki products with a toyota badge on the grill are outselling the Suzuki products with a Suzuki badge.
It’s about dealer networks and after sales service as much as the product itself.
@@therightcar That is a load of BS, you are extremely biased, we own a suzuki vitara brezza (toyota urban cruiser basically) and it is a piece of shit even compared to havals worst offering. At the time the Brezza was Suzukis flagship in the country and it is plasticy, poorly made (worse than any chinese car I have personally seen and the engine is underpowered and unrefined, it also had a variety of issues within 2 years, so much for Japanese reliability...
Thanks mate. Bought a Haval Jolion lux hybrid 2023. Lol car before was a Holden barina cd 2014(nearly killed me). Love the new car. Sceptical at first about your review, but by then end i really liked your perspective. I was without a car for three weeks, makes life difficult. I was headed towards MG but haval had me at hello.
Thanks for the video, have you compare the Haval Jolion vs the MG ZST as they are similar price?
I haven't compared them, but I can tell you the MG is a nicer thing to drive.
Hi great review ,do you know how to turn off the drls when engine is on.
Um… no. Can’t you turn off the headlights entirely?
Thanks for your review. For the price, I think the Jolion is definitely a car to consider. There really is no car that compares in price. Corolla Cross is 10k more and good luck getting one in the next 2 years. Is the Jolion perfect? No but no car is. It is certainly much better than this review and worthy for consideration.
I agree the Cross might have the better hybrid but you pay for that privilege and the wait times are horrendous. Is it really sensible to wait a year or more for a car especially knowing that when you get it youre not going to pay the price you booked at but more? Not to mention by then a newer model maybe out by then? Im genuinely curious as to what is the benefit of waiting for a car that long
And how long have you owned yours?
Seriously mate. I’ve driven EVERY small SUV and this would be near dead last on my list.
Buy a Ford Puma - they’re in stock. So is Mitsubishi ASX. Or Eclipse Cross. Or Hyundai Venue.
@@therightcar I know you will agree, the ASX is a very old platform that has been refreshed to the end of its life, the Puma is so small and the Venue doesn't sell for a very good reason. The Eclipse Cross is a reasonable proposition but for 33k you get a lot more for your money with Haval. I know you don't like the jolion so don't buy it. But as a reviewer, I expect a fair review and it is clear you are reviewing a car you hate. It is clear you are biased with Haval or Chinese cars in general. By the way, I don't own a haval yet but it is top of my list. It is certainly not perfect but a much better proposition to the competition.
@@therightcarTwo questions, first have you driven the new S cross yet? And second, why do you keep bringing up the Venue? Its in a different class and is a much smaller vehicle, im genuinely curious, is it the price? Finally I would only look at the offerings from Mitsubishi that you mentioned, but you get more kit in the Haval for the money.
@@therightcarhow about mg zst?
Gdy mate. Thank u soooooo much for ur review. Your explanation was sooo well that I literally drove it now I know what I should do. :) thanks
Thanks for the feedback mate!
Good drivers and reasonable people can figure out any car in few minutes , adopt and enjoy .....
As usual Mat, another great review, but I do think you were a little too harsh in relation to the driving experience. Yes, that DCT can be jerky at very low speeds, but that can be said for pretty much every other manufacturer featuring said gearbox. Also, what drive mode were you in? I can only assume ECO mode as that does dampen the engine response purely for economy. My (non-S) jolion performs admirably in NORMAL mode and when put into SPORT, is quite the rocket! Price wise, it has no true competition, for to get the same features (HUD!!) will set you back mininum $40+K. I love mine and only wish I knew about this upcoming 'S' model 6 months ago.
Thanks for your comment mate - but with respect, I disagree. This car isn’t as good as it could be. Simple as that. I’ve driven every single one of its competitors - literally, EVERY ONE - and the Jolion, in simple terms, simply isn’t as good as it could be when it comes to the drive experience. I bloody hate that DCT - it’s a terrible example of the breed. Go test drive a T-Cross and see what I’m on about.
Agree, mate of mine has an S and leaves it in SPORT mode permanently. Had never driven a DCT before taking his for a spin but honestly I didn't think it was too bad for what it is.
@@therightcar Youre recommending a more expensive and not as practical(and thats saying something)VW T-Cross over this? To me those compromises arent worth the extra cost of having a more "refined" driving experience
@@therightcar One of the amusing things about this, is that if you do the research, the vast majority of these Chinese DCTs are direct copies of the VW DCT. It seems it's more to do with the software they use. I've driven some pretty bad DCTs from EU makes too. After driving a few Chinese DCTs and CVTs recently, Chery seems to have the most sorted DCT of the Chinese brands. They even admit they copied the transmission from "the Germans" and they hired ex GM, Hyundai and VW engineers to assist them. I hate CVTs, but the Honda, Kia and Subaru ones seem to be getting better. DCTs just take some getting used to. My guess is Haval haven't sorted out the shift logic yet. When they add turbo lag to a DCT you're going to have that odd lagging and surging. I've found if you set all these Chinese DCTs to Sport mode, the take off from the lights is more smooth and predictable. I was surprised how good the Chery DCT was, even in normal mode, but eco it also was laggy. The smoothest Chinese car I've driven was the Chery Tiggo 8 PHEV. It's got some sort of "hybrid" transmission, which I think is a CVT, but it feels like a normal hydraulic transmission.
@@tlevans62with you on this. According to what I've found, even from Chinese sources (or Europeans that are working in China for these OEMs) it sometimes isn't even a straight case of copying. VW is just ridiculously huge in China and these manufacturers buy from the same providers. ZF and others have made a killing setting shop in China. It's in the fine tuning where they are having a harder time getting the stuff to play together nicely. I find Changan is doing a better job these days even though they're a smaller player than the huge GWM concern.
Just by chance has anyone out driven the hybrid model? How did it handle, drive?
It’s better. The powertrain is a huge improvement.
Just came across this review dec2023, very interesting to hear about the DCT in this brand, I have an MG 2023 model, and that too has DCT, and yes.... the same lag and jolt forward when moving from stationary, It is also the same for reverse. so I have been happy with my MG HS excite apart from this engine issue, but having just heard it seems to be like this on other brands, makes me feel a bit better. I just can't understand why they can't sort it out so it does not jolt. if you are stationary then the DCT should already be thinking you are going to need gear 1 and then gear 2. for example. thanks, good review. :)
Thanks mate. Yep, there are dual-clutch automatics which are made to a budget, and then there are those like you see in Porsche models (PDK) which are phenomenally good. Even VW, Skoda, Cupra and Audi have much more refined ones than the Chinese-made cars.
Thanks for your detailed review.
You’re very welcome!
This video was an odd one with recommendations to buy other cars that are not even able to be delivered for some up to 12 mths approx . When mentioning extras in different grades some extras were missed like heated seats , wireless charging 19” alloys m, head up display etc
Said Toyota Corolla x was nice inside when myself and everyone I know who test drive one couldn’t get over how cramped it was and how much cheap hard plastic was throughout its bland interior . Kia seltos is so much smaller with cheap interior once again and still much more money
I have seen Jolions with standard plates and all cover those holes so not sure why this plate was placed so high on the rear.
The mention of the badges on rear was also odd when you have the same thing on Skoda, Volvo, Range Rover, Lexus etc
The info screen is not hard at all and silly comment like you will bump buttons because u wanted to rest your hand on them was hilarious when that wasn’t even a gesture in this car , seems reviewer hasn’t seen most new modern cars have less disks and buttons these days
They have shortcuts to all setting with one swipe of the screen or one click on ac button .
The gear selector does stop at each selection so not sure what that was said for .
Also this guy failed to realise most cars these days do not have genuine leather seats .
Glad to see he had to admit on many of the positives even with mentioning some stupid biased comments about why would u want to have haval on your seat if you drive one . Yet does he say that on premium cars who have their names embossed in their seats
Dct is smoother than most I’ve driven and haven’t experienced any turbo lag apart from the same amount any turbo engine has.
Watching the parking was embarrassing I have never had anything like what he made it look like .
Omg even spinning his tyres , and droning in about lag lol. What was the motive to post this video ??
It sounded like you just hated this car before you got in it and made it hard to watch as you seemed to have been forced to make this video just to throw crap at the brand with more than one promo for Toyota Corolla x to but that instead .
I belong to most haval fb pages and have never heard most of these issues he seemed to go on about.
You can turn off the fatigue distraction monitor so no big deal .
So much more negatives ive experienced with other similar cars but sadly theirs negatives strangely were omitted or said to be what you expect
A bit harsh but yeah I get your points. To be fair the excessive nitpicking is something I see most Australian and European car reviewers do, argue over the finer parts like all vehicles are meant to drive and look like Mercs, Beamers and Audis. To quote a prominent European Car Journalist "You dont pay for those things so you wont find them here" . Brands like Haval, Mitsubishi and Suzuki want to give you aspects of those higher end vehicles without the much higher asking price and other compromises(like rapid devaluation). That is the point alot of them do not get and therefore judge the vehicle with the same measuring stick they would with those high end marks(least we forget they are Luxury brands, not Volume brands). Reviewers in other jurisdictions appreciate that point and view the car for what it is, not what it isnt.
Car reviewers give you their impression and issues they find so that when a potential buyer test drives it they can decide whether it’s right for them. If you aren’t bothered by the issues mentioned then great, buy it.
Sounds like your happy with your Jolion , great , enjoy it.
This comment brought to you by the GWM Haval marketing department.
@@Harrychambers1 Funny!
@@Harrychambers1 ignorant stupid comment , why troll a comment about a topic you obviously know nothing about? How sad
Good to see you branching out
Thanks!
Hey Matt, how do you rate the interior and tech compared to the Tank you got to look at briefly a few weeks ago?
The tank is a $55-$60000 4WD so hard to compare to a small suv.
Tank seemed a lot more special and upmarket - but so it should for the price.
@@therightcar yes for more than half the price of anything similar plus bonus of being hybrid . How did we know you would have something negative to say about that also .
Tell us you hate GWM without telling us you hate GWM lol
@@wcrash9361 I suggest you watch Matt’s review of the Tank before commenting.
If you did a little basic research before jumping in with both feet you might look like less of a twat more often.
@@therightcar thanks Matt. Appreciate the response.
GWM are touring one of the cars you drove around the dealers but I don’t think they’ve done Sydney yet.
Rumours are that the first shipment of customer cars is stuck in the quarantine queue.
Any chance you could reach out to your contacts at GWM for an update?
Should change the title to 'Do Not Buy Jolion'. I agree that it's not as refined as other vehicles. You pay for what you get. The thing is, where are the other 'better alternatives' that I don't have to wait for 12 months to get? Any other 'better alternatives' I don't have to spend over 50K to drive away?
BTW though, it's a normal thing that most of the time, car reviewers probably care drivability too much. When it comes to real life, a lot of people probably can't tell if a car drives good or bad.
I agree do not buy this car unless test drive it. If you're ok with your trial, go for it.
I could easily have called it that. But for some people it will be the car for them. I don’t know who they are or why they want one. But there are a lot of them out there.
How about a Hyundai Venue? I’d have it over a Jolion in a heartbeat. Review coming in a few weeks.
@@therightcar A Venue!? Thats a much smaller car thats not in the same class as this and the back seats dont even split fold. A Venue competes with a Ignis or Raize not a much bigger SUV like a Jolion.
@@therightcar Come on!! Hyundai Venue is just a compact 4 meters long, Even its dad Kona looks like a smaller sibling next to Jolion. Are you for real? I can't wait to see how you'll manage to praise that old-fashioned, last-century Venue.
Thanks for the review. I never drive this car, but personally I trust what you said. Unfortunately there is nothing available to compete with Haval Jolion at this price level. Why Toyota could not deliver Corolla X, why RAV4 so expensive. There is nothing to compete with Havel H6; there is nothing to compete with MG; there is nothing to compete with BYD Atto3
Thanks Rick. Toyota is in the best spot a car brand can be - unable to make as many cars as people want to pay them for!
At this price point ($30k to $40k) check out a Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross or a Hyundai Kona.
This car is great. I have driven it. Loved it.
How many other cars did you drive?
Obviously not as many as you have driven. I'm just sharing my experience and opinion.
Hey Matt, I own a Jolion Ultra and I completely agree with you with every point raised in this video. The engine is unrefined and the safety tech is definitely not the most user friendly or smart.
Would I buy again had I known the engine performance? Maybe not.
Would I buy again for the suite of safety tech at the asking price? Definitely.
I got a 2021 Ultra model for $26k driveaway so at that price tag, nothing (in terms of money as 1 to 2 year old Japanese cars were even more expensive than new) compares. I bought the car with a very low expectation so there's not much left to disappoint 😅
Thanks mate! That’s such a great comment - I love that feedback.
Hình như bạn người Việt Nam, cho mình hỏi thời điểm hiện tại xe của bạn có vấn đề gì về pin chưa vậy ( Do u have any problems with the battery till now)
@@leduy5545 Đến giờ xe mình trên odo là 75000 và mình vẫn chưa có vấn đề gì về pin bạn ạ. Nhưng xe của mình là bản petrol nên không có pin hybrid đâu nếu như bạn muốn hỏi về pin hybrid. Nhưng mình có nghe nói vài người có vấn đề về pin lúc mới nhận xe vì xe nằm ở container từ TQ qua lâu quá nên hết pin.
@@Hieucd97 thế ngoài pin ra thì sao bạn? Có gì lăng tăng k bro
I remember when a dealer group here in WA were importing some Geely branded cars and dual cab utes called Grand Tiger.... still see a few of the Geely's on the road but the utes appear to have vanished... I'm guessing some of the China brands will prosper but some will disappear... wanna talk about your Haval in 25-30 years?
I remember those days - John Hughes group was behind Geely, at least. Ah, the good (BAD) old days.
I’m happy to see this kind of “nitpick” review video, that means the car which is the Jolion is pretty good enough.
Pretty good enough. Well put. I wouldn’t own one - but if you want to, go nuts.
@@therightcar adorable man…adorable….maybe next time you can just say that in your video.
@@royxuding he literally did say just that.
He don't like Chinese cars but he loves his Chinese made phone 📱 picky much don't stop do ya Matt
Mate I am an unashamed iPhone (and Apple, more generally) tragic. That’s because they design things that are ideal for the user. This car, my friend, has not been designed to be ideal.
I never said I don’t like Chinese cars. I do. Watch my MG4 review.
just bought one for good value for money.
I have this car over year vent.
No issues it’s easy everything.
Ride very well
Great to know.
All Australian reviews for the Haval Jolion are either Hybrid or S. Could someone please do a review about the base model Premium? Even when you go to a dealership, they only have Hybrid or S for test drives. For those who are on a tight budget, there is no chance of getting prior knowledge about the car.
Thanks, I will investigate it, since they're doing them for so cheap!
I dare say a lot of the findings will be similar. But it's cheap. Soooo....
It's incredibly stupid this car's steering wheel is not telescopic. Same goes for every other manufacturer that skips over the feature. I can't stress enough how important it is to find a perfect arm position. Especially for us long-arm folk. It increases control/safety and severely reduces fatigue, especially during long-distance driving.
Agree!!
For me, screens are exactly what is wrong with how the automotive world is heading. Tactile buttons should be used for commonly used functions. The more we whinge about them the more manufacturers listen. Removing buttons is a cost saving but its honestly not worth it. I would avoid this car due to the lack of volume knob etc. It seems like a form over function decision for me. I would take function over form any day of the week (even if it costs me more).
I hear you mate. I call it out in everything I film or write when there isn’t suitable tactile control of key and crucial functions. It might look great on the showroom floor, and it might be cheaper to implement those functions via a screen. But there is a broad backlash, and it’s starting to take effect.
Loving the honesty here, Matt. Too many journos only speak to the positives and turn a blind eye to the negatives. Well done!
All the major Australian reviews ive seen nitpick the hell out of this car like its supposed to have a BMW badge at the front and they forgot to put it on, How dare it not be a BMW?!
Thanks Alex. Appreciate that. I can see why people buy them. I just wouldn’t.
Nah, MindFreeze803 - I don’t expect it to be a BMW. I never said I expected that. I just think it should be fine tuned.
@@mindfreeze0838 I don’t think it’s nitpicking when talking about that DCT. If it’s anything like the one I had in my Hyundai product (same low speed jerkiness) I wouldn’t go near it.
@@therightcar Fine tuned to be a BMW, I get it.
Wondering if the jolion has the ex toyota Yaris NZ-FE 1.5L now with a GWM code like the HAVAL H2 / H6 has as I can't seem to find the engine related code Google online searches for info.
If it has the old Yaris 1.5L engine then it will be quite to very reliable as they are like corolla engines bulletproof if kept serviced..
Shame the touch screen Is fiddly to use and not more dash buttons on hand to use as I'd rather that , than fiddle around navigating around the touchscreen getting frustrated with it ...
Forget to mention Matt the corolla cross is a much dearer car my friend is going to update his work van to a deluxe model corolla Cross hybrid and is looking at spending around 45K or more which is way out of reach for alot of people..
Hi Trevor. You’re the second person in the last 24 hours to have suggested that it could be a Yaris engine with a turbo on it. It’s stacking up to make sense that’s the case…!
Corolla Cross list pricing is far more attractive than what dealers are seemingly asking for…
After watching your video, I decide not to buy. I’m a VW Tiguan owner. My car is stolen and I can’t afford another VW. Need to find a suitable car as soon as possible 😢I did the test drive of Jolion today. I didn’t have enough time to try every function. Thanks for your review.
I’m glad I could help you make your decision.
I wish you and other reviewers would stop mentioning the Toyota corolla X as they are not available up to 2 year waiting list if you don't want to to wait you need to deal with scalpers
I agree. I don’t think any car with a 12 month plus waiting list warrants a recommendation atm
It’s not my fault that stock isn’t available. It’s my job to tell you the best alternatives - whether you’re watching the video right as it’s published, or in a year’s time.
@@therightcar By then though Toyota Australia will probably have a newer model with the same stock issues. At least mention that at time of filming there is a waiting period.
Have you looked at the exclusions in the 7-year warranty?
Yeah it’s a bit of a sparse warranty document. www.gwmhaval.com.au/dxdam/93/93ec2b63-fbe0-4385-a7d5-4e0181fe65f3/Terms-and-Conditions-HAVAL-Warranty-Aug-2020.pdf
I had the corolla cross hev as a loan car after a minor accident. Honestly the most uncomfortable car I've driven, the seats are atrocious and the drive line was laggy with the switch between electric and petrol very clunky. I hope my test drive of the jolion on Wednesday doesn't set my opinion in line with yours.
Good luck. Please report back.
Lol how did you count your fuel consumption? I find it funny that you said 9.8, based from your head. Too many things were said just for the sake of saying something.
Actually, I did 300km in this car, and that was the real-world return.
To be fair I have heard other journos complain about the dct and its tyre squealing ways, but its something you can live with. You dont have to have a turbo to get that shove btw, even a base spec Vitara with the 1.6l NA engine can do that, not as much as this mind you but it can do it. The suspension will be firmer as its meant to be the sportier version(hence the power bump). My largest gripe with this car is the impractical boot, yes litres(which means nothing in the real world btw)wise its a good size but dimensions and features wise I would go with the Suzuki S Cross(it gets a split level floor, light, removable side partitions and bag hook) . Trim wise, I wouldnt go for the full fat or the hybrid version(that boot is even further compromised and NO SPARE WHEEL) but the mid spec Lux without the Sun Roof and full digital drivers display(the smaller TFT is nice, not like the ones found in a Suzuki these days but its allright, its not Honda bland), that has everything you need these days like a proximity key, android auto, led headlights.
Thanks for your thoughts!
Just bought the Ultra and the car is awesome! Great value for money.
Corolla cross refined interior? Common bro, at least you should try to be a little more objective. Also you got problems with keeping lane assist, and ANCAP didn't, maybe they should call you to improve their testing methods.
I would buy one, even whit it s little caveats, IF THE PRICE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER than the competition and if they sell it in Brazil only with IRS on the back, becouse otherwise, the competition is going to have it…
I have jolion premier, enjoying driving 🎉
This guy just for the sake of complaint to attack viewers. I tested this car. It is not bad at all.
I’m not attacking anyone. It’s not as good as many, many other cars in the same class. It might have lots of tech and gear, but it needs improvement to be close to the others in terms of livability.
Get Jolion. Simply best value for the money
Is it?
Hey! i'm about to buy this car in dubai! can we disable all the safety featues which is annoying!
You can, but a lot of them require you to turn them off each time you drive the car. The engine and transmission? Can't turn that annoying thing off when you're driving, unfortunately.
@@therightcar Thanks for the feedback! I may look in to other options now like MG ZST or MG RX5!please suggest the alternative if you can in this budget!
The ting I get with Chinese cars is like the original action man toy scenario . Expensive European marques Merc Audi ect ect then years later comes a similar products being mass produced Chinese manufactured , has all the bits action man had but the lesser €¥$¢ price is the biggest carrot plus up to a 7 yr warranty , but which then plays out in quality of ride , engine, gearbox and other components.
Ya basically pay less and swallow the shortfalls
Geez you're coping a lot of flak for being honest. I've been driving one for 20 minutes. I've already laughed and cried😅
Hahah thanks mate
2023 Haval H6 better than this ?
Do you know a DCT is a Manual Transmission not an Automatic
actually its an "automated manual" which two clutches, one for engage the other to change gears.
various ?market names"
Powershift (Ford otherwise know as Powershit)
DSG (VAG otherwise known as ANR)
Hi, I've been watching a heap of your reviews whilst looking for a car over the last few days.
It kind of helped me, but then I had to throw all that information away.
You come across as a huge Toyota fan boy. .
Pushing their outdated horrible old products when they might really have one advantage. And it not reliability, that myth has been busted.
I work with warranties.
I guess a 79 series would appeal to you. Really old, unsafe, uncomfortable but, your mate probably believe it's good.
I’m a fan of well made, well engineered and enjoyable cars that are liveable and likeable. Toyota makes a lot of those.
@therightcar so, I guess that's why Yamaha makes the only good motors that have. And, all the interiors look like 1990's Camry.
I mean, the corolla and Yaris Hybrid look shockingly old inside, compared to anything at all.
I couldn't buy new and go backwards in interior styling yet, you suggest that's a good idea.. whilst critical of say.. Mitsubishi ASX for the same.
Look, I love your style of delivery, love actually everything you do in terms of car reviews. It's probably my favourite. But.. it's not calling out Toyota for being sooo far behind in style and interiors and well, pretty much everything.
It leaves me very suspicious.
However, I wish you the best of luck.
I enjoy 90% of what you're doing.
And that's, it's a nice point of difference.
Nice
I thought I did a good job. 😇
I drove one of these (probs base spec) as a courtesy car and absolutely hated it. Transmission and engine felt sluggish, steering felt dead and the "safety" tech tries driving for you. Really don't understand how people sit down after a test drive and think, "Wow, I liked that I should buy it." On a positive note interior is alright and its spacious in the back seats.
Thanks Deadzone. I agree. It's a dud to drive, but some people are just sold on the low price and huge features list. That's their prerogative - I'll never be that guy!
Mate just use steering wheel buttons to control volume fo gods sake 😂
For that price, you’re better off, getting a brand-new Skoda, Octavia wagon. The Skoda is better quality has more inclusions and the boot is twice the size.
Enjoy the way your a straight shooter & tell it how it is. 👍🍻
Thanks mate. I’m just trying to help buyers make the right decisions.
@@therightcar
Obviously your not going in the makers pockets, which is missing in many TH-camrs, hence I’m an avid follower of yourself n John Cadgan. Something that’s gone a miss in many broadcasts these days. Your doing a great service n job to the buying public. 👍🍻
@@wcrash9361
Ok… 🥴
Havel h6 next?
I’ve just dropped the H6 hybrid back, and may I say without spoiling the review, I was VERY IMPRESSED by how much better it is.
@The Right Car? great going to watch now :)
Each to their own but the styling's a deal breaker for me. Why did they make it look like a sad clown with tears rolling down it's face? 😭
Ha!
Matt's face matches the style. actually its COOL
Can't believe some people are paying this much money for these and not buying Toyotas 😂
Haha, the problem is that getting Toyotas is hard. Getting these really isn't!
“Old Captiva “ mate is very anti Chinese cars….seriously I thinking to change from Mazda 3 2021( first car) and my family car Skoda Karoq….
I'm not anti-Chinese cars. I'm anti-CRAP cars.
Thanks Matt - no this vehicle is way too schizophrenic for my tastes and seems very disconnected in road manners and infotainment/instrument cluster interaction - thank goodness for Toyota and Subaru - to be fair I had no lag issues with my ‘98 WRX but I did with my 09 XT Turbo Forester that I only kept for 3 mths - my Hilux has no turbo lag as the power is always there - the rotary dial transmission design means there’s likely to be a number of impacts/crashes with other stationary vehicles.
@@wcrash9361 it’s appropriate you have the name crash for your ID - 1. These silly dials are not intuitive 2. Naturally you wouldn’t select a mode while in motion (driving) but drivers will easily select reverse thinking they were in Drive while the driver behind is beeping at them as they mess around with the dial - 3. I’ve test driven a few with these selectors so unlike some I do know what I’m talking about and I’ve been with drivers hesitating because they’re not sure what drive mode unless they look at the instrument panel or attempt to read the small labels on the dial - a poor ergonomic design and just because you’ve seen them in ‘expensive’ cars is no reason to think their clever.
This car's name is one "Jo" away from it being a JoJo reference
I don’t get it.
Fake Leather ie: vinyl. As in BMW ,Mazda , Mercedes, the list goes no thanks.
Do you realise nearly every car used a vegan leather or man made material in car seats these days . Very few still use real leather
@@wcrash9361 most cars have a faux leather (they really shouldn’t be allowed to call it leather at all) option in their lower grades but higher specs have the real thing.
@W Crash
Thankfully, most have real leather as an extra cost option. No way would I buy a vehicle with vinyl seats. Fabic seats, yes, but never vinyl.the facts
@@buncha5651 good luck finding that in any brand let alone a budget brand
@@wcrash9361
You need to do some research.
Thanks Matt for the honest review.
Watched the review. Read the comments. Mate, get a life.
Accept a simple fact this car is more than enough for a lot of people out there.
And stop being so protective.
Stop wasting your time arguing with people whose point of view is different to yours.
You will never be able to convince them. Just like they will never be able to convince you.
Learn modern ethical sales (not pushing and closing but asking better questions instead and being curious) and you will live a much happier life. Not just as a reviewer. But as a spouse, as a dad, as a son, as a colleague.
Peace
I don’t need life advice champ.
After reading some comments below about EXCLUSIONS in warranty this paragraph stands out like dog ....
Body panels, glass, soft trim, plated parts, bumpers and other appearance items, wiper
blades, brake shoe lining or disc brake pads, drums or rotors, chassis springs, shock
absorbers, and clutch plates and facings (on vehicle equipped with manual transmissions)
where defective materials or workmanship cannot be established.
Hmmm!
Looks like a Mitsubishi Outlander.
Does it though?
OH MY GOD THANK YOU! I hired one of these on a recent interstate holiday and my wife thought I suddenly turned into the biggest whinger, not to mention worst driver in history, but your review confirmed everything I HATE about this car! The lag/lurch on take off is ridiculous, the steering wallows like a drunken water buffalo and the screen controls are unwieldy and distracting to the point of being dangerous. I cannot wait to get home to my VW Tiguan. Would never, ever, ever think about hiring, let alone buying one of these ever again.
Thanks mate. Glad I could save YET ANOTHER marriage. 🤣🤣
1.5 turbo , thats the end here , what a waste .
Don't be so cherry-picky! For the money you paid, what can you get from other brand cars available here in Australia?!
That scratch in the leather of the steering wheel (looks like someone’s wedding ring damaged it) should be an indicator of quality. It will be a pile of rust in 10 years. Hard no.
I didn’t notice it til I saw the GoPro footage - it looks worse than it was.
As these chinese suv's gain the years they are starting to see issues in a great deal of areas of the vehicles unfortunately. Most is hidden at the moment from the general public because these cars are still under warranty. Would never suggest anyone buy one in the second hand market.
Any used car is a risk. But then again, so are some new ones!
Oh my god matey , picky , picky , picky ,,,
No. Not picky. Critical in context.
I don't understand all this hate. Havals prices, customer service, 7 year warranty, with its loads of tech cannot be beaten by any other car, especially when it was released in 2021. No other car cpuld compete at that price with that level of tech and finish. Im picking one up on my 19th birthday next year, ive already test drove the Lux 3 times, and its gonna be my 4th car already. Had a 2012 Honda Civic, bought when i was 16 for 10k, then sold it early this tear in June, and bought a Kia Sportage platinum 2014 diesel, and then sold that a month ago and got a 2013 Fiat 500C turbo. I love my cars, and no other car i have seen on the road can beat a haval. Especially in style. Tank 300 is mint
Omg dials 😂😂😂 get with the times
Is this a jibe at me for thinking touchscreens are rubbish?
@@therightcar yes. Touchscreens are normal.
@@RechargableBattery Some touchscreens are great. Others are shite. This is an example of the latter.
don’t blame the car. improve your driving
Don't blame my driving. Improve the car!
@@therightcar - well said, turbo lag, LOL made worse yet DCT lag.
Tell me something, what was wrong with a simple 3 rotary dial (distribution, fan speed and temperature) with 2 button (AC on/off and recycle on / off) HVAC system of the past? Nothing, but they are trying to WOW you with the touch screen stuff, which fails after a while as its cumbersome to use.
These Chinese vehicles offer great value for money and warranty
But they’re not without their issues and build quality is well average.
That’s why you see so many second hand ones for sale even MG
They look cheap and no doubt as you said they feel cheap.
Yeah Toyota is way more expensive but you’re getting build quality.
Walk in Chinese made no name shoes and then a pair of quality made Nike Adidas etc and you appreciate the price difference.
Addidas is failing, compared with Lining which offers youthful affordable and diverse options
Toyota cabin better feel? Jesus…it’s terrible and already look outdated
You completely missed the type of people who buy this.
Those who don’t watch the internet, you mean?
@@therightcar nah man. I have one this as a daily. It’s just a cheap A to B car. You missed the point man. My weekend car is far too impractical as a daily and more suited to the great ocean road trips. You gotta be less defensive. Jolion car isn’t to carve corners or straight line.
@@SC-ou9gm Mate, I don't care anywhere near as much about carving corners as most journos. I care about living with a car - and I truly can't believe how so many people can think this is just fine. It's not.
@@therightcar for me it was fine as I my other car only has 2 seats and won’t fit the kids for school drop off. My wife has a separate car so this was just about going from point to point. Not about the thrill
Still Toyota when it comes to reliability.
Time will tell.
that depends as Toyota factories are being pushed beyond their limits also and stuff ups happen down the production line: paint and body alignment on some vehicle range.
That said Toyota petrol/hybrid tech is near bullet proof, the engine in Atkinson cycle mode (basically it's in 50% operational mode at all times) is so under-stressed that even without the battery feeding the electric motor/s (depending ifs tri motor for eAWD models) has enough to keep the vehicle moving and also recharge the battery to the point where the battery can power the electric motor/s again, its pretty seamless also save for the engine noise.
Look how cheap it looks. How anyone gets fooled by this is beyond me.
It seems Aussie reviewers are on a vendetta against anything Chinese, if you listen to them we should all just buy Toyotas.
Not really mate. Have you seen my reviews of the GWM Ora and Tank 300? No vendetta present, champ.
Aussie reviewers have something against brands bringing in products that could be a lot better. And a lot of those products happen to be budget Chinese products.
so people are not allowed to have subjective reviews? oh wait you must be using social credit score.
The motor is Toyota 1nz clone but with a turbo 👍🏼
💯 correct I'm an Australian and our media has had a anti China campaign running for at least 8 years for America's war with China.
f a k e
One of the most biased reviews I have ever watched. Not to watch again
Biased against people buying cars they shouldn’t? You found me out.
Propaganda .
For who? Did you watch how much I panned this car?
Wow I'll rather not subscribe as this channel is political
How am I saying anything political?
Chinese cars have a design image problem , they look like cut and paste of at least three different known models .In other words gimmicky.
Which Chinese cars their are 100’s of Chinese car manufacturers. Haval have not been one of the brands accused of this
The only DCT worth having is in VW vehicles.
When it breaks under warranty good luck getting VW to fix it.
I’m with you, Buncha. Just don’t call it a DCT in front of a VW exec. They don’t like that. 🤣
@@mindfreeze0838 Oh come on VW are well known for their exemplary customer service! 😂
We get it your a Toyota fan boy.... like every vid just get a toyota. No thanks.
I’m a fan of well-made, well-engineered products.
@@therightcar Toyota's are bland, boring to drive, behind in tech and over priced. Put another badge on it and you would say the same.
not a single major issue explained. and all the positives mentioned in merely 20 seconds . biased
How long did you watch the video for? Not a single major issue?! Rewatch the driving section.
@ashermehr2127 - oh look another Winy the Pooh supporter in the comments section, here is a positive: it's value for money, negatives? whats the point of value for money when at resale time the potentially loss could be as high as 75% thus retaining 25%.
you are unlikely going to return to the brand again once you have burned twice, once on interest rates repayments second resale.
rubbish driveline/infotainment and comfort. i think the MG zst is slightly better.
Have you actually test driven both as it’s clear from just one drive which one is more refined and it’s not an mg . Mg have awfully laggy infotainment and is so old fashioned and comfort and space is where jolion is miles ahead
@@wcrash9361 both rubbish but the zst has a better driveline combo. both infotainments rubbish.
Agree. I’d have a MG ZST in a heartbeat instead of a Jolion.
@@therightcar Interesting view - I've found the laggy infotainment, lack of overall refinement, and more common quality issues are much more present in the ZST (and even the HS) compared to the Jolion IMO, plus it also looks under-wheeled.
I do find GWM are further ahead of SAIC products, but they do need their work on their ride/handling. Haval should start by putting the H6's wet DCT in the Jolion rather than the dry DCT as tested here.
@@therightcarAre you considering an MG ZST review? Would love to see one if you are.