Livestock Guardian Dogs: Working on Common Ground
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- Livestock Guardian Dogs are effective at protecting livestock herds, including sheep. This story takes place in Saskatchewan, Canada on a ranch with nearby wolves and coyotes.
The spiked collar actually has a decisive function in confrontations with coyotes or wolves: it protects the jugular, which is the primary target of the foe.
I thought that would be understood without saying it.
@@sstills951 Yeah me too, but there'll always be someone who didn't know, but now does.
@@wh3747 I learned something from the op. I'd been sitting here wondering "Why would a dog wear a spiked collar? Are they punk rockers? But wouldn't the music be too loud for a dog's taste? Is this S&M related? Who would teach a dog about such things, though?"
Still dangerous tho, sometimes dog love to play/fight together , not to mention the kids as well if a kid trip next to one of those it might lead to a disaster ! They can add defense collars ya but the spikes are too dangerous specially with kids around -_-
@@ahmadsherbeny5609 Well, these are trained working dogs, not your normal pet. If I had a dog out there fighting coyotes I'd suit them up the best I could!
These good working boys have a great life. I'm sure it fills them with pride to protect their family.
Yeah man, they have a purpose and live their life in it's fullest.
Agree,JordanK,they love their guardian jobs.As Brenda Negri says that's what they are.But make no mistake that standing down large predators is no easy task,& sometimes an extremely dangerous one,as the Canadian ranchers pointed out.These dogs do a magnificent job,that can also be a dangerous job
@@lindamclennan8645 they are good as long as they carry the spiked collars
Great to see intelligent management of wolves and coyotes.
Yes!
Two years ago I lost all of my baby goats to predators. I brought in an LGD. No losses since then.
Ranch lady so beautiful, chiseled like a statue. Husband too
Bros horny on main
"Ever since we added polar bears into our pack, we have had less coyote attacks, but they are still just gentle giants with our 1 and 2 year old girls. We have also upgraded our dog's protection from the spiked collars. We thought they were just kind of ineffective at protecting our dogs and weren't very comfortable either. With their new 7.62x39mm Kalashnikovs, the dogs have shown much more confidence."
Agreed after making the switch to my polar floofballs I can't imagine ever going back to relying on anything that's not firmly on top of their respective food chain. Still working on training mine with the 5.56x45mm Colt M4s. The complex assembly has really got their heads spinning. I'll have to try switching to Kalashnikovs to see if they have better luck with them.
Truth be told, detent pins probably aren't the only reason my girls are struggling. They seem to be having trouble focusing at the range ever since we got a pair of Cougar HE MRAPs for them to use on their patrols. Although a great addition to our protection team, letting them learn to drive before working through the monotony that is gun safety was definitely a mistake in our curriculum.
hi this is the atf please stop we keep getting shot by dogs and mauled by polar bears and this makes us sad ..... its supposed to be us shooting dogs not the other way round
also where in fucks name did you get aligators that could fly ah64 apache attack helicopters
Not creative or funny.
You can overcome most of the concerns people seem to have about your vermin control methods with a simple addition to the mix - frikkin' lasers.
@@williams2652 except it is you stick in the mud
Raising a family on a farm is such blessing.
A friend had an Anatolian that I helped look after for a number of years, a beautiful, really good natured dog, he was a pet. Never a problem, he loved to play with every dog he saw, even little tiny ones. Once, while walking him in a residential neighbourhood, he became aware of a coyote in a front yard a few hundred feet away, and all those centuries of breeding kicked in. How he knew it was a coyote and not a dog is something I’ve wondered ever since, perhaps scent, I know his eyesight wasn’t that good, but I was impressed. At close to 145#, he could pull me off my feet if I wasn’t prepared, but that time I was.
I feel like it should be made very clear: these Kangals are gentle because they are doing their jobs. They are well kept, actively working, emotionally and intellectually satisfied animals.
If you try to keep a Kangal in an apartment, you’re gonna have a bad time. Like, think rampage/murder spree bad time. These are domesticated animals, sure, but they are *not at all* pets.
100%. These are not dogs suitable for city life.
Very well explained. Thank you.
100%
I have a 70lb. pit bull and he's been a house dog all his life. We bought a plush chair and sheets for him to lay on. I take him for walks in our parks almost every day. I feed him a special Nutro kibble b/c of his sensitive stomach. we tried at least six different kinds of dog food and the Nutro was the only food he didn't throw up.
Great video. We have 4 GP/Anatolian at our ranch. Can't remember the last time we lost livestock.
Does this work with cattle too or do cattle range too far and wide?
We have two Great Pyrenees and Anatolen Shepard mix dogs. They are healthy, strong dogs with a positive response to humans. They are especially gentle with children. They live in a 2 acre fenced yard and sleep in individual kennels in our house. They are wonderful dogs! But this was not the situation that we had in mind when we got these dogs. We had a deal going to purchase a small farm with space for crops and livestock. That property deal fell through and we now have these two dogs and it really takes a bunch of work to keep them healthy and contented. Mind you they will live out their lives with us. They are 3 years old and they help this 70 year old man stay healthy. Great dogs! But they Just are not for small spaces. Small space as in less than 10 to 20 acres.
That was a wonderful video, thank you very much. I used to live in SE AZ. and I raised goats ,horses + poultry. My ranch was surrounded by free range cattle and the cattlemen had great losses of calves. Until we got our 1st LGD- a Anatolian/Pyrenees cross. He did a wonderful job protecting our livestock on our property, but how much can 1 dog do? The following year, we bought our 1st dogs 1/2 Brother- father was pure Anatolian, dam was English Mastiff. He was gorgeous, brave, and worked so well with his 1/2 Bro. Every year we added another pup from those bloodlines to out pack and every one of them was awesome! The cattlemen frequently commented to neighbors how few calves they'd lost since we had all of our LGD'S. We were pretty proud. Another thing that they were good at, was sneaking up behind illegal Mexicans on our property and simply surrounding them ,then not moving or making a sound. We'd call BORDER Patrol and the Agents would arrive to find their illegals huddled together ,scared stiff. This happened many times. Our dogs also took "out " coyotes for breakfast. We didn't have Wolves that I was aware of, but we had Javelina and they weren't afraid of them either. It's incredible to me just how silently and perfectly these dogs communities with each other to protect and get the job done. I no longer live in AZ but I brought my last 3 LGD'S with me, even tho I don't especially need them here, except last year I bought some chicks and put the chicken coop right next to the kennel. 😂 my layers + Roosters are very well protected, as are we. God bless dogs.
"Ultimately, the Kangal Dogs didn't have the vertical leap to match a coyote - so we added a couple kangaroos. We also gave them boxing gloves wrapped with barbwire - which really improves their confidence in their punching combinations."
LOL :-D
Hahaha
Dumb Townie comment
Here in Norway around 2 million sheep are release out in the wilderness to run free each year. Without any supervision or protection throughout the whole summer.
Unfortunately the grazing period here is associated with suffering and poor welfare for many of the animals. And many will never return home.
Of course there are many reasons for this. Some may break a leg and will eventually die of starvation. Naturally, another reason is attack from predators.
A large majority of the politicians doesn´t prioritize protecting our predators.
Our ENDANGERED predators. Quite the opposite actually.
They share the same TERRIBLE attitude as many farmers have: "We don´t need wolf, lynx, wolverine and bear in the Norwegian wilderness." "So we´ll just remove them, because it´s not in our favor."
They act like we have some kind of first priority to this wilderness. To this world!
So instead of giving farmers economal support, and demand that they start herding their sheep, they do what they can do eradicate and expel the predators. Simply because it´s impractical for business.
All this despite that most Norwegians wants to keep wolf and other predators in the Norwegian wilderness.
Norway definitely has a lot to learn from other countries.
As a Norwegian animal-lover, we do NOT need wolves. They are Eurasian wolves from Russia. We have no Norwegian packs or wolves. The wolverine and the lynx are at least permanent and regarded as native. The bears and the wolves are not. Protecting your livestock from injury is not having a terrible attitude. On the contrary, it is impossible for many sheep farmers (especially) to guard their livestock because of the rugged terrain, making for poor fields. And free roaming guard dogs are not allowed in Norway, for obvious reasons.
If all the wolves and bears died, the Norwegian fauna would still be as native and original as it was. Animal casualties to lynx or even wolverines, fine, that is part of our natural fauna and a risk the industry has to take. But don't come here with wolves and bears and act like they're indigenous animals being wiped out. The foreign wolf packs that cross the border and settle, are riddled with inbreeding as they are so few.
The alternative is to not have livestock at all, which will severely hamper the country's food production and thusly the ability to sustain itself in a crisis situation. Due to the rugged terrain, these resources would elsewise not be available, as it cannot be converted to farmland.
Giving economical support for herding doesn't make sense, as it would be wildly expensive as, again, dogs cannot be used as a lot of sheep MUST roam to be able to reach otherwise unexploitable resources. So they would have to use human guards, which would send the price on meat to the skies, which is, for obvious reasons, not politically wanted by most people.
When you say "most Norwegians want to keep wolves and other predators", you fail to mention that these people have been targeted with one-sided propaganda for years. If you actually talk to a person who wants to keep (especially) the wolves, then that person believes 1. the wolves are indigenous to Norway, and 2. that farmers can fence in sheep with no real consequence. Thirdly, they don't know how inbred and pointless the small wolf population is, and how pointless and illegitimate it is to doggedly and obstinately demand that the wolves are given a place in our fauna..
Norway can learn from other countries, countries that keep their fauna intact and do not accept foreign predators supported by emotionally driven propaganda.
As said, most farmers understand that the lynx/bobcat and the wolverine must remain (of course there are angry farmers that want all predators gone, but like many of the pro-wolf people, these are not "philosophers" and mostly think inside the bubble of their own convenience), but the wolf can be sent packing right back to Sweden, Finland and/or Russia.
@@ParleLeVu This is totally bullshit. And filled with so much fake information! Did you actually read what Freedom in nature writes? Check your facts before you speak about things you obviously don´t know anything about. You say it´s impossible to guard your sheep because of the rugged terrain. So why the hell are they able to do so in other countries? The terrain there is just as rugged. Even more. It all comes down to humans removing everything that they in their opinion "doesn´t need." And yeah. if we removed humans from our fauna, the world would be a much better place too. And how the hell do you think the wolves and bear dissapered from Norway in the first place? Greetings from Finland to ya
@@ElisainNature So, maybe you should remove yourself if you think that makes things better😂
@@fshn4x4 He is right though. But I don't agree about removing humans. But Kill Gates and old K. Schwab surely does.
@@fshn4x4 Now that´s very mature fshn4x4. You´re really helping out....Yeah, that would be one solution. Another one would be that we´d try to think outside our own axis. That we´d start seeing ourselves as part of nature. It´s not us AND nature. We ARE nature. We´re all animals. And we don´t have any more rights than other species. So we have to stop removing everything that doesn´t fit in in our terrible plans.
I love this breeder she is doing important work. It is great to see a system in which all the animals are treated with respected, the herd, the herd guardians and the wild predators. As a dog lover, I am happy to see these specific dog breeds live a good life in the outside, having a pack and having a job to do. They live full lives as animals, not trapped in a cage in a house, trotted out to be oversized foot warmers or expected to be passively sleeping most of the day. We have far too many animals being "kept" as pets who are not meant to be lapdogs and they suffer for it.
I learn something new everyday. This was a very jnferesting video.
Reminds me of a docu with a shepherd, who said "I would rather have one dog, than 10 people"
Dude had the right idea.
Beautiful video and beautiful dogs, sheep and area, thanks! I owned two dogs so far in my life and loved them both. None right now. It's neat to see you have your kids doing stuff in the business like helping feed the dogs. They will be hardworking adults. :)
this video is really really amazing, i cant stand city people who own doodles and put jackets and clothes on them, and then try to tell the rest of us what dogs are for. There are show dogs, and then there are real dogs! These in this video are REAL DOGS. Just because they live outdoors and have a job to do, doesnt mean the farmers and owners love them any less
Exactly and they have a life they enjoy and thrive in!
The spiked collar is probably one of the best tools for these livestock Guardian dogs. But her words ring true. It's really not good for you to send your dog out to, let's say, daycare, or dog parks with a spiked collar because they're really cocky, aggressive, and dominant. Dogs with spiked collars start more fights than any other at the doggie daycare i work at. I always take those collars off before sending them out. Knocks them down a peg and makes the dynamics calmer over all
My dad raised goats when I was growing up, we had 2 maremma boys, we moved and after I left they got a great Pyrenees girl and had 2 litters, most were I believe sold to other livestock owners. The maremma never in his life wanted to be inside the house the GP would only come inside because of fireworks , and the pups were neutral about it but liked pets and treats lol
Now the mom and one of her pups are all that's left and after my parents loved again they're just hanging it with the 2 house dogs and 1 bottle fed goat that's basically a dog that baas
They'll always have a place in my heart as the most amazing dogs I've been with
The maremma didn't like new people, but his best friend was our family friends'3 year old lol
I think The AKC classifies The Kangal Dog as one of the baddest of the "BAD-ass" breeds. They certainly are big but also beautiful!
Such an awesome video
What an amazing film...Thank you
She’s a behind the scenes kind of hero too many people I’m sure ❤
Congrats for your guardian dogs....i am italian and i saw a maremmano abruzzese sheperd.!
Wow, those collars are badass!!
I found this video really one of the most informative...
5:53 “lol look I’m dad, bork bork dang coyotes lol”
This ranching family's coexistance philosophy is very refreshing & encouraging..
What a beautiful family 💞
I love working dogs especially since I exercise mine when I go running several miles. They end up half dead from exhaustion, but the happiness they get from being worked like that make it worth it. Plus they work great with Boston terriers to get rid of the snakes on my property.
Smooshed faced Boston terriers kill snakes? Ha that's funny.
@@sstills951 yeah I know it’s like prey drive but just for snakes.
I use donkeys and llama my guardian dog is passed but I want another one. You kids are adorable
Another option, and I've read that it's a cheaper one, is donkeys. They're aggressive, and they HATE canines. I've read they're both cheaper to purchase and cheaper to feed. The also live quite a bit longer and have been argued by scientists to be as smart as dolphins, if significantly more stubborn. Best part for you, they dont kill their prey, the beat it up sometimes, and definitely scare the crap out of it, but the majority of the time it lives.
I have vast experience in this subject. The farmer where my friends and I take our telescopes says it only works with one donkey. He'll stomp any canine. Two or more will stand head to tail or line up and wait to see what happens. If it involves a sheep, that's not their problem.
@@hamletksquid2702 So perhaps the solution is to spread the donkeys out to their "own" small patches?
@@fubarace1027 - Wouldn't know. Damn things bite and kick, and sheep stink. They make pretty scenery, but you roll up your window when you pass them. Not my field of expertise.
Donkeys are effective guard animals, they'll definitely kick a coyote to death
People also keep donkeys with horses, especially stallions that have to be isolated from the rest of the herd. Horses have comfort donkeys for real
So awesome!
It’s incredible that kangals are so good with kids
Caucasian Shepherd is the best breed for this scenario. They are massive, freakishly strong, have protective mane and are absolutely fierce. Ultimate fighting machines. One of those beats would tear through the pack of coyotes like a lion through hyenas.
This is so AWESOME!!!!
I learned something new. The spiked collar role
It's a very common practice in Europe. It helps for keeping dogs alive and not just from wolves but also also from fights they have with each other.
I raise Pyrenees/Anatolian mix and they are absolutely the best guardian dogs in Texas
No idea how I got here but this is really interesting thank you
You should try Caucasian Shepherds. They're one of the best livestock guardians you can find, not only defend livestock from wolves but also bears. They're very similar to kangal and very big dogs like the pyrenees
Why? Their system works
Caucasians are land guardians kangala are livestock guardians
@@davidfilipovic163 straight from Google. The Caucasian Shepherd Dog or Caucasian Ovcharka is a breed of large livestock guardian dog native to the countries of the Caucasus region, notably Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Dagestan.
TBF, Im pretty sure this professional dog breeder is fully aware of Caucasian Shepherds, and probably has here own reasons for not using them. I doubt she needs any advice from people in youtube comments.
You need to take the cost of providing for the dog into account. Bigger dog breeds generally means higher costs. Even kangals are costly because they are physically very active.
Great info. 🤙🏾
Caucasian shepherds are also live stock guardian dogs
Get a few orphaned bottle fed donkeys to raise around your guardian dogs. To have extra protection that won't attack your guardian dogs since it was raised around dogs from a baby.
I've got an anatolian pyrenees mix in my home just to watch my house and the kids running around here he is great for that
Nice video and beautiful animals but would you please tell me at what age your dogs started protection work?
Good job.
Amazing
Kangals are somewhat smaller then anatolian. But Kangals are awesome, and if you want a powerful but gentle giant consider Alabai (CAS), they are far bigger than most of the LGD (in weight, not in height) and I'd say they are by far the most beautiful LGD. The list at the end ,for example, is missing the largest LGD, Caucasian shepherd. And as well the smallest (or only Maremma is smaller) - Tornjak. Both are awesome dog breeds (in my opinion in top 5 LGDs).
The safest family in the world
Magnificent
I'm Turkmen (older version of Turks) from Central Asia. I grew up around Kangal and (our version of it) Alaybay dogs.
They can grow to the size of a bear. No exaggeration! I've seen them drag arond an old Russian Volga (very heavy car) when it was tied to it. The car was on handbreak, tires locked in place!
My dad used to tell me stories about losing sheep to wolves and cayotes. He said "they brought an old, one eyed alabay (kangal) to the village. It could barely walk. We laughed at the idea. By God, at sun set this dog would go to the edge of the village, do a couple of rearing barks, and no four footed creature would dare approach the village. He did this every day till he died 16 months later. We didn't lose a single sheep or chicken during that time."
I've heard stories these dogs killing fully grown Anatolian brown bear in 1 to 1 fight. I've heard stories about sheperds finding their kangal killed, and taking a couple fo more steps and finding 5 dead wolves that it took out before losing the fight, and seveal ears from the wolves that got away. I fully believe it! These dogs will not take one step back from any animal, it's not in their gense, they don't know how to, they'll fight to death protecting you.
I don't believe one dog can kill an adult bear. Three-five probably could, especially Alabais, but I would scoff at a one to one dog kill of a bear.
@@dieseldog00 I think Canadian bears are bigger than the bears in Eastern Europe (except maybe Russia/Finland).
Sir do you have any info about tape worm prevention or cures in livestock guardian dogs? Thank you in advance for any help you may provide,much appriciated.
ivy utube it’s called moving the flock
google has tons of info on worming dogs. many options. i prefer low doses of horse wormer. i am some will not agree but it has worked for me for along time.
I approve.
Signed,
Great Pyrenees
These dogs are badass.
I had a bernese pyrenees....love of my life...
5:54 too cute
What a great philosophy, everyone wins!
As a city folk, i love this sort of channel. Thanks for sharing
"With level of aggression" as a young girl tries to ride one and pet it lol. they know who to attack and who not to lol
I would have two of each; Great Pyrennes, Ovcharka, Kangal and Alabai(if the dogs get along). Also one donkey.
awesome
I would love to have some of these but I don't have the need or the room.
My GSD was the sweetest most gentle, friendly to all people, but would completely change and take issue with and control of any animal encounter with any and all aggression required in a instant. It was always surprising to see a big baby just switch to "Kingdog" like that. You could tell he thought he was "us people" and animals were animals....lol
What breed did you have? Is he still guarding your flocks?
Those pups so cute be hard to let them go 😂
Watch an Ovcharka. Even in children's playgrounds they are always watching, watching. Kangals do the same. ALL the dogs who were bred to guard never let up when they're on the job.
For those ranchers who want to save their livelihoods, LGDs are, or should be, indispensable to them.
Absolument superbe
Nice video
I wonder if those robotic dogs would be effective here? Alot of Ai improvement needed. But durability and survivability wise ?
I kind laughed when they said that a Great Pyr isn't a match for a pack of coyotes given the story from late 2022 of a 21-month-old Great Pyr that successfully took on a pack of 11 coyotes, though he did need a fair bit of vet care once he got home. That said, they will tend to be more successful about driving predators off if they're working in at least a small pack like they developed here.
Are they coming back???
We adopted an Anatolian Shepherd before we knew what they were. Despite living in our home, he's adapted marvelously. Incredibly smart dogs!
When I saw korgis being used a shepherd dogs I was surprised. Now those looks like real shepherd dogs I know since a kid. You could also check out Greek shepherd dog. It's an excellent guardian dog and also very friendly as a family dog.
this animal will consume space and protect its own, much like any spirited being
Maremma works good too
...not to mention the Kuvasz--superb LGDs.
Also donkeys make great protection
Hi, so if you have a multi-breed dog specializing on different things...but if the Great Pyrs stay with the flock, and the Kangals go after the predators..doesn't that dilute their power being far from one another? I mean a Kangal is powerful but what if he/she is outnumbered and the backup dogs are with the flock? Would not it be better if you just get more Pyrs staying with the flock? Or at least get 3 Kangals doing parameter patrol and 3 Pyrs with the flock?
It looked to me that they have multiples of the breeds. They have "white dogs", anat. Shep and kangals. They want to keep adding yearly so they are good.
@@kli9005 Just wondering how many Kangals patrolling outside and how many Pyrss inside....and if these dogs actually communicate each other to protect the flock as a pack?
@@teddy2979 Good question specially since they each have their specific attributes.
Nice but why haven't you any Kuvasz?
Where do you find healthy Kuvasz?
@@kuvasztv1440 Gregory is that you? I would love to discuss some topics with you.
I was born in the wrong country. Maybe a next time? Grtz from Belgium
just found you, and want to ask how you deal with fleas, and ticks on your pyrenees..??
I use Advantix once a month for my Pyrenees. Ticks that I don't get w/ combing / manual checks die after biting my Pyr. I'll find dead embedded ticks on my Pyrenees that I can easily pull off.
@@Ghanshaman thank you..
This is kind of badass lol
That’s the way to do it
Great video. I love all dogs even stupid lil' shits like chihuahuas and mini poodles.
Surprised you don't have the working Tibetan Mastiff on your list
Qué perfil más bello el de esta mujer! Minuto 5:33.
Beware of strangers around your kids! Some dogs to give alarm. Some for protection. Wolves and coyote's do not like barking dogs when they are sneaking up. And then a pack of big mastiff type of dogs to fight. Wolves, like dogs hamstring first then the throat. So protect your dogs!
If the dogs are with the livestock all the time when do the dogs get their dog food??? Just curious.
It looks like they drive out to feed the dogs a couple times per day.
Wish I could find a Kangal to breed my Anatolian Pyrenees mix.
I see you are trying to breed an apex predator
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I have 2 Great Pyrenees will see how that goes 👍🏼
I have one non "working" pyr and all I gotta say is you need a good vaccuum and deaf neighbors lol
@@exkelsior1486 Boy that's the truth. He likes to bark just incase the boogy man is around. And as far as obeying my commands not so much.
@@exkelsior1486 Hilarious 😂😂😂
@@rockinrosie123 My neighbors think my Anatolens are stupid because they don’t do tricks. My Anatolens pay no attention to anybody but me and the livestock. The dozen or so chickens that make up our livestock have no reason to fear anything on four legs.
@@hodwooker5584 People that don't know these breeds don't understand how smart they really are. 😍
I love puli dogs
Those spike collars look scary.
Keeps wolves away.👍
DOG'S RULE! But you need a few cats 😸
tamed wolfs ie dogs keeping away wild animals and wolfs ,,you put love in you get love and protection back
That dog has to be pretty stupid to try and chase the mother cow away from her calf!
A mixed heard of dogs is perfect just look at the military a squad of military Special Forces you have your heavy gunner with automatic 50 cal you have your medium Fighters with grenade launchers and you have your Small Arms guys that move around quick with AR-15s and they all work together. That's the same way the back of dog's works against a pack of wolves. You have your lead dog you have your medium you have your chasing dogs you have your bulk fighting dogs.
I would throw an Alabai in that mix to spice things up.
A lot of people don't know the Wake cayots react and breed. If you kill a lead male which is the only one that breeds normally with a lead female if you kill a lead male or lead female you disrupt the hierarchy. If you kill the lead female the lead male will breed all of the females to find a new Queen then you're have a population explosion. If you kill the lead male then all the males will start breeding with all of the females and you'll have a population explosion. So if you're going to kill coyotes 2 drop their population. You need to know which ones you're shooting at you want to shoot two juveniles. Usually when coyotes approach a call or a bait the the lead male and female will hang back and make the juveniles come towards the bait because they're smart enough to know if it's a trap they don't want to be the lead coyote they want to hang back and control the the pack. So if you're going to be shooting coyotes you want to shoot the smaller ones that come in first and do not shoot the big Stout ones that are hanging back cuz if you do you will start a huge puppy meal because the breeding will go crazy. And then you'll have a worse problem 6/8 months later. Same thing with Wolves it's just a bigger animal you don't want to shoot the lead Wolf the male or female because then you start a population explosion again so you got to be smart when you go to eradicate predators.
The solution seems to be, don't shoot coyotes. Protect the livestock instead.
I love those kangals
Running a puppy mill?