Livestock Guardian Dogs: Working on Common Ground - People & Carnivores
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- Dogs can help ranchers and predators co-exist? Watch this video and learn how it works!
Ranchers who struggle to coexist with large predators are finding new hope in old dog breeds. While these Old World livestock guardian dog breeds have successfully defended livestock from predators for thousands of years in Europe and Asia, they remain relatively unknown in the American West. Explore how they work for one family, and what it means for the maintenance of large predators, like the wolf, on the landscape.
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*Please note that not all LGDs are trained or reared the same way, and therefore not all are as approachable as those featured in this video.
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I want to thank the ranching family for your choice to use herd guardian dogs. I too believe ranchers and wildlife predators can coexist.
anyone know the breeder lady;s contact info? or website?
Sadly tho, wildlife predators, almost always end up trying to eat the rancher's stock. It makes coexistence very difficult. When those predators get hungry, they have to eat or they die trying.
When i saw this video i thought "wait, isn't it normal in america to have guard dogs?", because here where i live every summer and autumn there's plenty of herds in the mountains and each of those has at least 2 maremma dogs guarding it
The two most important decisions in human history were using wolves to beat wolves, and to cook bread twice for toast.
Oooooo this is a person that thinks!
@@hehehehehehehehehe9783 yea your mother was a saint.
@@sodirtythedirty4120 you absolute madman
Cook bread twice?
Genius!!!
Yo that toast part tho? Whoever thought of that was either high asf or very, very desperate. Lmao
I had a Lab that opened the door so a burglar could come in to pet him
Martin Masher sucks for u
Labs just want a belly rub and a body of water to play in, lol.
I had a lab when I was 10-12 years old. I got her when she was a puppy and the breeders who had her, wanted to put her whole litter down for some weird reason. All the puppies looked perfect so I have no idea what the reason was. The Deputy Sheriff called my mom and told her about it and asked if she wanted a free pure bred black lab, but no papers as the puppies were supposed to be euthanized. My mom went and got one, a female.The dog obeyed all of my commands and went with me everywhere and on my paper route at 5 a.m. I lived in a small town so my mom did not worry about a girl on a paper route with her dog. One Sunday morning This strange guy came up to me to tell me he liked my newspapers and he reached down to my sled to take one. My Lab growl and lunged at him. He took off pretty quick. It was then that I knew this guy was up to no good and my dog probably saved my life. She was a female Black Lab too.
Darth Masher...hahaha that is sooo cute There is a video somewhere about an experiment on what dogs actually do to a stranger entering their home....%99 of the dogs wagged their tale and played ball with the "intruder"...your dog has a heart of gold and nothing wrong with that..only dogs specifically bred for 100's of years and dogs professionally trained to guard actually try to protect their home/owner...
@@lorrainelaskosky7785 I saw that. I have a big black/brown working sheep dog who will face off a ram on the farm but is cowed by the cats at home. Rural area, back doors tend to be left open all the time. Set up a kennel outside with a guard dog sign. Left heavy duty chain with a huge black collar hanging out. Everyone is really cautious approaching the house now. And I don't have to get out of my chair for visitors.
That puppy that put on that spike collar like a belt.... He's gonna be a badass.
Clearly will be a rebellious teen who shops at hot topic.
TJ G 😂
It looks like Tornjak to me although that breed is not listed.
This is not legit !!!
it for them so if a wild animal attack them in the neck it will break the animal jaw
Support Class: Great Pyrenees
Rogue/assassin Class: Anatolian Shepherd
Tank/ Bruiser Class: Turkish Kangal
Items: spiked colar of the Oathsworn, +20 damage +25 armor,
confidence buff: when in range of wolves or coyotes +10 additional armor and damage
Fuck yes. I was just thinking this haha.
*Teirzoo would like to know your location*
Hahaha
Counter stealth class: Hovawart
Front line infantry: Maremma, they can kill a wolf solo.
Haha the puppy who wore the big collar on his tummy was so cute. He looked so proud. I bet he can't wait to work!
"Oi boy! Im going to be just like big Jumbo! I shall be thr bestest boy! I will get those sheep through the winter for i am the greatest boy!"
dogs literly live to keep theyr pac happy. they are happy when you are happy. and they will do anything for you. working for you is like ecstasy for them
@@rampage3337 Don't you wish more people were like this? In working dogs, we see a bond of loyalty that few humans have.
He knows what that collar is; I love it that even though dogs are at a pound for pound disadvantage they have the advantage on a wolf or coyotes.
It was a st bernard
During the California wildfires last season 2018, 2 different ranches, the dogs protected their flocks and got them home safe.
I have no idea HOW. They were literally surrounded by fire. They got their goats and sheep home safe.
❤ wonderful dogs
Heros!
Jon de Carbonel woow that’s just incredible
What an amazing story, thanks for sharing. I've seen a maremma help birth a lamb in the middle of a thunderstorm. They are truly incredible the way they just instinctually become part of and the leader of a flock. I'm not even surprised to hear of sheep following them through fire to safety.
There was a story I heard during the fires that a dog that was guarding sheep kept them safe and away from the fire, and when the land owners returned the dog had some deer with him as well. The deer knew the safest place was with the dog haha
These dogs (LGDs) do not think or behave like other breeds of dogs.
These dogs are bred to think independently and to think things out and to.
I love watching my dogs work as a team without me having to tell them what to do.
@@miraleatardiff8543 you must get such a kick out of watching them. It's totally a win win too because working dogs love and need to work, it's fulfilling for them and awesome to watch!
00:43 “Taking buckets out of a stream” is a really good metaphor I haven’t heard before
Preventative rather than reactive, and non lethal? A+
I use 8 kangals in BC for sheep. anything comes over fence dies. They respect 6'6'' fence and never leave farm.
@@bobbybabylon1385 Thank you. I choked on my drink when I heard the non lethal part. These dogs can will and do kill predators.
Bruh Turkish use these to kill wolves
@@god1284 And the Turkish Kangals are absolute machines.
@@god1284 They also have the strongest jaws out of all dogs. When it grabs you it doesn't let go
Keeping your dogs on a age rotation works better with lots of breeds I have always gotten a puppie when my oldest dog is five because the older dog is not so old that a puppie will piss it off but the older dog is still active enough to trsain the younger that way I never got stuck without a trained dog
That's how pack works. :D
Yes, I always give this same advice. A good dog will start a line of good dogs this way.
Works with Aussies.
Plus if the older dog is by itself with only humans as their pack they tend to start getting mopey.
Also so they dont have to spend their entire lives out there Nd they can have a comfy retirement
Glad I haven't seen anyone claim those collars are cruel. They're literally there to protect the dog from getting bit on the neck/throat. A predator getting their jaws around them like that, could be a death sentence.
There actually was a vet saying they're just pure evil.
@@jaquicx9500 well that sounds stupid. Besides, wolves are smart so they'd probs realize that doesn't look safe to bite.
I feel like it is only cruel if it doesn't serve a purpose (ie. Putting one on your dog because it "looks cool") this assists the dogs in doing their jobs and saves their lives, but for taking fido down the street there's really no reason.
They should also wear kevlar jackets so they wont just go for the belly instead and rip the guts out
@@mcwaff8661 Canines always go for the neck when fighting over animals, in fact almost all predators will go for the neck if possible. Getting the neck means the other animal can't bite you and you can kill it easily with little struggle once you get that bite in. These collars prevent any chance of that happening, and whilst the Wolf/Coyote tried to go for other weak-points the Dog could just easily go for their neck.
Not only are these dogs good at their jobs, they legitimately enjoy it.
How interesting how each breed serves it's purpose.
I think its a lot about color, sheep tend to prefer white dogs around them, and run away from other colored dogs.
But would you say that introducing a white colored dog is easier then multi/dark colored dog, or doesn't matter?
Niiles - It is probably easier for the sheep to instantly recognize that the white dog is not a fox, coyote, or wolf (unless one is farming sheep in the Arctic where wolves are white), so it may be easier to introduce a white dog to a flock that is not used to having LGDs around. Whatever breed or color, a good LGD will behave with respect toward the sheep, staying out of their 'flight zone' if they are nervous, and using body language to show that it is not a threat. Many people in the USA put the dog(s) in a pen amongst the sheep at first, so the sheep can get used to the dogs, and maybe even come nose-to-nose with the dog(s), and come to understand that even though they are canines, the LGDs are not going to attack them. Trust in the dog builds over time.
Even with just one breed, or with dogs that are crosses between the traditional LGD breeds (crosses between LGDs and non LGD breeds are NOT recommended) the dogs will often work out between themselves which ones stay close to the livestock, and which patrol the perimeter.
Dogs that go long distances away from the livestock to chase and try to kill predators (as Kangals have the reputation to do) or to hunt for their own food are not a good fit for many regions.
They are like “rainbow” tribe of dogs. Lol. Man AND animals best friend. 👍🏻👍🏻🤔🤔
One thing that this video should have mentioned is that people should NOT interfere with working livestock guardian dogs.
- Do not try to pet them, feed them, or interact with them - or the livestock they are guarding.
- Do not enter their pasture or territory without the permission of the owner, and being escorted by someone the dog knows and respects (owner, family member, employee). (Actually, we really should all keep these points in mind when it comes to any dog, but so many of us now expect dogs to behave like Disney characters.)
LGDs can be raised and trained to accept strangers wandering around, but some of these breeds were, or still are, expected to also protect livestock from thieves. The LGD breeds are loyal to their owners and generally wonderful with children, but many will also protect their farm/territory, family and especially the children in the family, as well as the livestock, against anything the dog perceives as a threat, even if that threat is another human.
Yes we have to feed them.
Did you not see the two kids petting the dogs and the man saying ‘there only aggressive with predators’
@@buzzybeeproductions8260 I think you misinterpreted the original comment. S/he was saying that strangers need to be wary of the dogs. Many livestock guard breeds have a reputation for human aggression and have been kept as home protection animals for that reason.
This is very true. I was walking past a barn on a ranch once and got chased off by an Anatolian Shepherd; I wasn't messing with the dog or the livestock but the dog didn't care. I had seen him around earlier but hadn't realized it was a working dog. Definitely be aware when you're in any kind of ranch setting! These dogs are bred to protect their livestock even if they have to protect them from you!
@@buzzybeeproductions8260 a human can be a predator
Who else is watching this at 12 am and have no reason to watch this
LOL! Almost. I am watching this at 11:53 PM.
Quarter past one for me
12:07am
☝🏼
It's not a miracle to be up late
Always amazing to see Dog breeds continuing to serve their ancestral purpose.
This film was never meant to cover all breeds of LGD's in all situations, which of course would be a monumental undertaking, but I felt honored to be part of it, and am so pleased to see it reaching so many people. The dogs I owned in the movie were the following breeds: Spanish Mastiff, Pyrenean Mastiff, Great Pyrenees, Kangal, Anatolian x Maremma cross, Spanish Mastiff x Anatolian x Maremma, and Kangal x Anatolian x Maremma. That covers a lot of breeds….more than most own. They are incredible dogs, and I am committed to their responsible breeding and ownership and use here in the US. Conservation Media and People and Carnivores did a fantastic job.
+James Tuohy I have a consulting service I offer (and no its not free but is very affordable) on my website www.lgdnevada.com if you are interested.
seriously ?
Why arent irish wolf hounds more used?
Michael Smith ah thank you
Thank you Brenda. I've been privileged to be around several Hungarian Kuvasz for a lot of years (we know a breeder in South Carolina who got her original dogs from actual Hungarian stock, which is rare) and to see how these LGDs work with no training is astounding. Their instincts are dead-on most of the time.
It's funny how we had this knowledge for a long time but sometimes humanity has to relearn it.
as with so many things. like paper and glass for packaging and not plastic
*recyclable or biodegradable
Pathetic troll
Hive mind
@Natasel If you can't see the reasoning behind not slaughtering the natural predators of the world for the simple act of existing within a range of humans, then you need to go back to some Freshman courses on environmental sciences.
I'm not sure what to make of anything you just said.
kangal is one of the rare pure breed dog. So valuable. They can feel your purpose that if you are coming for trouble or favor. So proud
TURKS KANGAL 🤙
I grew up appreciating dogs as pets, but seeing a working dog first hand at thier job brings it to a whole new level.
even the dogs look like sheeps
That's the point apparently. Many of them are bred to blend in with herd of sheep so they can ambush predators.
I do apologise for replying on a old comment. Mostly meant for other folks who read your comment
Wait, you telling me dogs aren't sheep's?
@@abandonedbucharest7704 Hopefully you haven't shaved them yet
The plural of sheep is sheep, not sheeps
@@Shazzkid thanks! It is so easy to pick up bad language in the internet, so corrections are important.
Such a great compromise between humans, livestock and nature! Great balance
+jett888 i know right
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Very informative! Thank you!
I would love to see another story from another rancher and what he's done with his pack. this was interesting.
jett888 I
You get a like because the scene where the puppy puts on the collar around his belly made me aww...
Dog trainer and behaviorist here: I wish every dog in the world had a perfect life just like these guys.
Dan Kay yeah that’s what I always say. A dog is happiest when it’s working. When it feels like it’s contributing to the pack. I’m an animal activist kinda person so I move in those circles, but some of the opinions these people have are fucking insane. I once saw someone writing about how a dog being a guide dog is cruel, cause it has to work. Which is just the craziest thing, literally any working dog is living it’s best life.
@@knogne5073
A guide dog is suffering because he has to work? See, this is the problem with the open and free internet. Every donkey can publish whatever s/he feels like without having an inch of actual knowledge.
Feelings and believes are the new science in the 21st century.
Dan Kay yeah it’s true lmao.
I know some humans that would also benefit from killing small animals in the wild
Also maybe less of the girls jumping on them too 👍 its beautiful too see them actually using dogs for what they are bred for.
Ps. I love the fact that these breeds are total sweethearts at home and also I loved your statement that they ONLY attac as a last resort or if need be!
+Lotta Starck-Kuukauppi The LGD is supposed to be a protector, not an attack dog. The role of the guardian is to nurture and protect. Thank you for your appreciation!
I Would not recommand kangal dog as a home dog. Let this breed remain a working breed.
5:57 "Look at me, I'm a guard already"
Dog: HI! IM A GOOD BOI AND THESE ARE ALL MY FLOOFY FRENS THAT I PROTEC FROM ALL THE b a d p u p p e r s
Yeetur McBeetur LOL
Yeetur McBeetur this looks like what an illiterate 2nd grader would write ngl
ziqazagababoopididzagiboobabdap ghost dad Then what the absolute fuck is your username?
@@lgbtqiarights LOL If you are looking for a dog that comes from Boston or Harvard, don't look for it among the sheep.
Yeetur McBeetur it’s a reference lol. also i didn’t get the notif for this, oop
Honestly this is the best life a dog could hope to get. They have purpose, protecting livestock is what they were bred to do, they have a pack many other dogs to interact with all the time. They are outside and can experience so many changing and nuanced smells and stimulation, dog heaven!
This is one of the very few cases where I fully support dog breeding, and buying dogs.
U don't support dogs as pets?
@@syotos2143 he prefers "adopt don't shop" but this is an exception
Ideally, for companion animals, one would adopt, rather than shop, however, for many things, such as in my case, a dog that is trained to respond to anxiety/panic attacks (PTSD is a fucking nightmare), adopting an older dog isnt really productive, as it takes about 2 years to train the dog, depending on the task (seeing eye dogs train for close to 4 years before being paired with a person).
With small children it is also better, sad to say, to get a younger dog, as with older dogs, you have no idea how they might react. I've fostered dogs who were sweet as cream, and gentle as butter, but, such as the case with Remi, they see a cat, or a rabbit, and they become a wild creature fueled by some demonic rage.
Remi was a labrador retriever. she killed 15 cats in her neighborhood after being adopted. she had never shown an ounce of aggression before that.
@@coastalcoyote i actually foster for dog reascue's and rescue my self if i find myself in the position to due so, and sadly, while i would love to agree, i speak more for the dog's safety than a child's.
By law, a dog bites and draws blood ONCE, and that dog is destroyed. Most rescues, their dogs are fostered an average of 3 weeks. In 3 weeks, you really dont learn every quirk, and the dog is still in a state of shock.
That is not to say that a dog that has been in foster for a longer period, and that was fostered with children you could not be sure of, but most rescues dont foster dogs with children, because of insurance and civil liabilities should the dog turn out to be aggressive.
As in the case of Remi who turned into a cat killing monster, i have also fostered Koda, a golden retriever who lived with my kids without issue, but when adopted by a family with a teenaged son, Koda went nuts and attacked the kid. Lived with my family, with my children, for close to 2 months while he recovered from heart worm.
what we hadnt been told was that in his prior home,before being dumped, the older son of his first family used to kick and throw things at him. He didnt like teenaged people, or people who wore ball caps. We knew about the ball caps, but my kids were under the age 5 at the time.
J P what’s wrong with dog breeding...
not many people think responsible for the life of the predators you are doing a great job
He explained why he had to resort to this method. If he could have shot them all and be done, he would have.
I don't think he said that. He said co existing was cool. @6:40
"its like taking buckets out of a stream" aka, there was no point in trying to kill them all....
Indeed, it sounded like he wanted to kill them all at the beginning. I could imagine how that would have turned out. "Environmental News: Local produce fields being destroyed by rabbit overpopulation" Gee I wonder why... But I'm glad they found a compromise for the situation. I hope they knew that if the apex predator in a food chain keeps returning then it means the ecosystem is healthy.
Zed Ex farmers and ranchers do indeed know these things. But most laypeople have never suffered the heartbreak of coming upon the aftermath of a wolf attack. I had a friend who, during lambing season in Paradise valley, had wolves pin down a ewe and tear her lamb from her belly and eat it first before finishing her. Wolves will sometimes kill more prey than necessary when training pups, too. I have very mixed feelings about wolves, but I will shoot ones near my animals if they get too close for my comfort.
The one puppy that put the collar on himself appears to be in a hurry to join the big boys and girls out in the field!! Too cute!!
Fab to see breeds of dog we created to protect livestock being used again. They have such great temperaments, like any well trained , well bred working breed. Great job to all
I feel like these dogs must be just loving their lives out there compared to most city dogs. I mean i think my boxer is happy and gets enough time outside but these dogs must be in heaven by comparison.
They probably enjoy the comforts of life just as much as we do.
This is a great video. It demonstrates a successful working model for livestock breeds protecting against predators. Because the breeds are 'protectors' they are also very human friendly and what I like is how this video exemplifies how a guardian dog isn't vicious yet knows when to slip into defend mode. This is a case of having your cake and eating it; you can ranch and coexist with endangered predators. I have a Grt Pyrenees, she's wonderful, 100+lbs, total house dog, a clown, intelligent, wonderful with kids and all animals. She's also an excellent guardian that can't be bribed with treats etc..
+Fernando BZ yes, same here. her name is Lovey, and it fits her perfectly (unless you are a squirrel or I woud guess coyote, etc. but we have none here)
We had a chow chow that kept all predators at bay. He was amazing in 8 years we never lost a bird and we have 30 or so that have never been penned up. We live in the woods and people get bobcat and bear right out in the acres behind our home. Things just never went beyond his markings. We're training a new guy right now. He's only 4 months so he's more of a pet for now.
I LOVE this concept! Being a nature lover and knowing how difficult it can be when predators take your livestock, I really applaud you in investing in a pack of protectors instead of trying to eradicate the wild. That livestock breeder is my new hero.
We had a spiked collar that was given to us a long while back. We had to get rid of it because our dog, a 75lb male boxer, was getting super cocky with it and bullying the other dogs. As soon as we took it off he went back to normal.
RaeSyngKane boxers have more mental health issues than other breeds.
Its becuase the spikey collar protects the dogs neck so its basicly saying its better becuase it cant get hurt
This was very educational. It looks like a mixed 'pack' of LGD's, that covers the strengths and weaknesses of each breed, is the way to go. I also like how the various working dogs appear to have a good working relationship and understanding of each other's role. To be honest I didn't expect the dogs to be so family friendly, so that's another bonus.
Never heard of any of these breeds. Gorgeous creatures.
Okay so you had a starter dog, trained him, captured more with higher level, equipped them with items and make them battle against wild dogs? I think there’s a game about this shepherds.
Border Collie, I chose you! Use your DASH attack!
These are working dogs bred and trained for many generations, it's what they do. The collars seem as if they could be more sAfe. These dogs are very loyal to humans but the children should be taught more respect by not climbing on them. These animals work for their keep. They will also defend humans to the death.
sixpackbinky r/wooosh
Here’s how it’ll go :
Alabi, use bite!!
*Alabi bit Kangal, not very effective...*
O shit
*Kangal bit Alabi, it’s super effective!*
My dog....
Wow I can't beleive the comments on this awesome video... barely anything positive on these perfect working dogs. For one a dog does not need to be bathed, if they are healthy their coat will stay good and won't smell (unless it rolls in poo and stuff). two, not all dogs need to be brushed, it all depends on the weather conditions of how their coat reacts (these dogs have a double coat and short enough hair to avoid brushing). Three, raw chicken bones are fine for dogs if other dental enrichments are not available... yes they can still splinter in their body but so can everything else. These aren't show dogs, their working dogs and its awesome to see breeds still being used as they where bred to be. ❤❤❤ Thankyou for this video
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While i do agree with everything else you said, chicken bones are just not for dogs, and not only for "show dogs" i mean like every dog. I sadly have seen how much pain my neighbours dog was in after he ate the chicken bones. It's just not good, and i see no point in feeding then to the dogs. It's stupid, if you want to give them a healty natural meal then by adding meat to their food will do great, and use other animal bones, not chicken bones. If you can't afford animal bones then how about nothing at all.
Beril Ly Ella chicken bones are fine if they're raw. It's only cooked chicken bones that can splinter. Same with beef bones. Animal bones are more malleable of they haven't been cooked
I will chime in and say from groomers view pointat least one of the great Pyrenees looked really badly matted. That said I don't own working dogs and I don't work with them often so I don't have the research in to tell people how to prevent that with it's living situation. I'm sure there are ways and I'm sure these people love and care for their dogs but just because it's a certain breed doesn't always mean you don't need to brush it. The matting also could prevent it's work as well because if it's bad enough it becomes more difficult to move and way easier to overheat.
I have fed my dogs raw chicken feet for years
My family's farm had a Kuvasz, which a rare breed of guarding dog for livestock. She was the biggest dog in the area and took on everything from foxes to wolves to other dogs. She looked and sounded big a scary, but really she was the sweetest girl.
She sounds like a very good dog.
We have an eight-year-old Kuvasz as a pet, not a working LGD. They may be on the small side when compared to Kangals and Pyrs (still 80-100 lbs though), but dear Lord can they guard. Ours is a complete goofball but he has no fear. Our Bator is an incredible, awesome family companion.
Correct dog, for correct job.
Good example below in the comments a man talks about how his Lab let a Burglar in the house so he could get some belly rubs! Wrong dog breed for the job.
I had a Rottweiler I trained for personal protection and guarding
A man with a 12inch knife and crowbar broke half way in my dog was on him instantaneously, he managed to stab my Rottweiler and that made the Rottweiler very angry, so max used his enormous jaw muscles to break the hand and arm of the intruder. Max then attacked his genitals exactly as trained, it even made the News over twenty years ago though. So picking the right dog for ANY REASON WHATSOEVER BE IT A FAMILY DOG, HEARDING, SECURITY, ECT IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE.
GREAT PRODUCTION AND LESSON FOR PEOPLE ABOUT HOW TO GET THE BEST RESULTS FROM YOUR BREED!
Thank you very much!!!
Agreed. Don't buy an amstaff or a border collie when what you really need is a rescue greyhound or a chihuahua. Understand what you are getting into, that behaviour is a primary consideration and appearance secondary at best, and fulfill your obligation to the animal.
@@MrSunrise- very well said, I would say that you said it perfectly! Thank you.
Yess, also, amazing job for a great dog. Hope he was ok after he got stabbed!
A twelve inch fucking knife eh? You measure it?
🇹🇷TURKS KANGAL TANK
Love to see there doggies working and so gentle with the girls
We own a purebred Hungarian Kuvasz (80 pounds) and a Great Pyrenees/German Shepherd cross (120+ and still growing). Both are house dogs, not LGDs, but the Kuvasz loves to patrol and guard our yard without any training whatsoever, just on sheer instinct. They're fantastic dogs.
cool man!!! kuvasz is a formidable breed. i wish there was more videos on youtube about them. are they available in the us?
In case you have not found the answer, yes Kuvasz are available in the UDSDA. The breed was accepted by the AKC since about 1931, but the AKC Kuvasz breed club focuses on the breed as a pet an d show dog, not as a working dog. To be fair, there are more predators now in most areas of the USA than there were then. In much of the area east of the Mississippi, there were few predators up through the 1970s, but predator numbers have risen sharply since then, as attitudes about killing them have changed, and the importance and value
of each species within an ecosystem has begun to be understood.
There are breeders of working Kuvasz in America, too, and many Kuvasz from pet/show lines can develop into good working LGDs with proper rearing and training.
Yes they are. It's interesting to note that Kuvasz from primarily American bloodlines have been heavily crossbred with Great Pyrenees and so they have a lot more of the bulk and power of the Pyrenees than dogs from Hungarian bloodlines. Our breeder in South Carolina got her original dogs from Hungary (where they were almost wiped out during WW II by the Germans) so they are a little bit smaller and more athletic. Their instincts as LGDs are absolutely amazing to watch. Kuvasz are very smart dogs but they are independent thinkers, like most LGDs, and strongly pack-oriented. Our Kuvasz, Bator ("brave" in Hungarian) is alpha over our super-laid-back Pyr/GSD cross Bear, and most of the time Bear doesn't mind. When Bator pushes too far, Bear reminds him that he's 40 pounds heavier and a good bit stronger. :)
Moose - It's good to know that Kuvasz from original Hungarian bloodlines are being bred in America. War causes so much damage... and the World Wars put so many breeds of various species on the brink of extinction, and probably wiped out a number of them that we have never heard of. Of course, as landrace breeds kept for their working ability rather that being bred to a standard of appearance, so there tends to be quite a lot of variation in their size, bone, head type, coat, etc. I'm constantly amazed at the variation in the look of different Great Pyranees, especially among dogs from working lines. Behavior is variable, too, as Pyrs have a reputation among many to not necessarily stay with the herd, but to patrol, and also to have a tendency to want to expand the territory they patrol - which is different from the conclusions reached by the LGD owners featured in the film.Of course, patrolling and even guarding a yard is a pretty natural behavior for any dog, as all wild canines claim and patrol a territory, and guard it against the intrusion of other canines. Many breeds are known for being highly territorial, (Chesapeake Bay retrievers, for instance). Anyway... enjoy your Kuvasz!
Correction: USA (Slip of the fingers...)
Thank you, dogs!! 😭 Thank you for protecting us and our sheeps!!
David Miller no s should be on the word sheep 🐑
So would a spiked vest be too heavy for them? Has any coyotes done serious injury to any of your dogs
Robert perry the neck is the most critical point to protect.
@@robertperry6295 when dogs and wolves fight they go for the neck to kill the enemy.
@@robertperry6295 The collars are to prevent Cougars for example for going towards the neck of the dog which they do naturally
Awww, the baby's tuckered out.
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Perfect :) there are ways to work with predators without killing them. How many animals were saved from trapping, shooting, or poisoning by these smart farmers?? Amazing, good work and keep it up
Ok I just shoot the coyotes
Scott Wales that’s not always necessary though. Farmers are doing that to wolves and in Africa they do it to leopards and lions, and it absolutely destroys the population. Scaring them off is better because they can pass on the knowledge that the area isn’t safe.
@@mageofdoomsie1598 yeah but where I'm at your not sure if it's a regular coyote or a skin Walker and I ain't taking any chances
Scott Wales yea that’s a good point too haha
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Cute lol
regarding the whole chickens: this footage is from two years ago. Both dogs are still alive and thriving today. For more information on why this is possible, here's a good resource: rawfed.com/myths/bones.html
Cooked bones, as well as dried out bones, are very dangerous, since they can splinter and cause all kinds of trauma when swallowed.
In the wild, it is very common for wolves and other carnivores to consume some fairly substantial bones at kill sites. With very young prey animals (such as elk calves), it is common to find almost nothing left at a kill site. They eat all the bones with no evident problems. Again, it's cooked bones or dried out bones that pose a risk.
Some dog owners make bone broth, adding apple cider vinegar to help dissolve the bones. After 2 or 3 days of simmering, the bones will crumble, and are safe to feed along with the broth. This is an alternative to feeding raw bones that may work for people who have concerns about feeding raw food to dogs. (We personally have a lot more concerns about industrially raised and processed meats, including poultry, than meats from animals raised naturally on pasture (not in confinement) and processed either by the owner, or by small slaughterhouses with integrity.)
Steve Primm dogs are made to eat raw food wtf is wrong with people? I'm not trying to be an ass or anything but ITS A DOG THEY ARE LIKE WOLFS AND CYOTES
they are not wolfs anymore, wolfs can't digest starch dogs can so it all possible there are other difference .
Courtney got any good recipe? i know you can't only feed them raw meat you need other stuff for vitamins and minerals
Bob Robert dogs have EXACTLY the same digestive system as wolves. Prey model raw is the most popular raw option which consists only of 80% muscle meat, 10% organs and 10% bone. Yes, some people add other things like kefir and specific greens, but it's not essential. I fed my dog raw and he thrived on it.
Good job, the art of the livestock guardian dog is a beautiful thing
When your dog comes home with blood on the nail collar.. last bite for that cougar... lol
It really does amaze me. It is literally just weaponizing your dog. No harm, just protection with some extra bite to give it an advantage, seeing that most predatory animals instinctively go for the throat in a tussle.
@@rumbleroller2154 indeed. It's not some cruel weapon, it will only cause serious harm to animal that's trying to bite your dogs neck/throat. Defensive measure at that point.
@@rumbleroller2154 ~ most dogs go for the throat too, right? I bet these big guys go for a wolf or coyote throat...
@@NannupTiger Face to Face? Sure, I'm sure they do. But then again, ears and snouts are also a good target. As for wolves, they instinctually go for the throat. I mean, they hunt *prey*...
@@rumbleroller2154 ~ do you think the dogs prick their feet on the collar? Their back paws I mean, we all know a collar makes a dogs neck itchy, maybe flea or 2... they probably prick their toots every now and then...
Everything about this video is perfect. I love the belief of COEXISTENCE between ranchers, livestock, dogs, and local predators. This is what these breeds were created for. Well done all involved.
I've been running a small-scale domestic version of this scheme to protect my chickens here in England. The main predator here is the fox (and a neighbour's dog!) and my 3 intact male dogs (2 whippet lurchers and a terrier) who, together with their predecessors have kept our losses to just one hen in 19 years. Interestingly, it is scent marking the boundaries (important to keep the dogs intact) that does most of the job. I've seen foxes come up to our boundary, sniff the ground and turn away immediately. Also, while the lurchers will happily kill rabbits, squirrels and even deer, they don't kill the foxes. If they see them they chase them two or three fields away and come back. It seems to be a purely territorial thing and both fox and dogs seem to respect each other.
Totally ignorant person here. GET THEM FIXED. They will still mark territory.
Peter Martin those dog breeds are my dads personal favourites, great choice!
Michael Smith agreed, getting them fixed has turned into a trend.
I was approached with an idea of raising ducks in Texas. I don't want to take away Bobcats, but I can't take a loss on losing ducks.
Getting them fixed will alter the smell of the mark. The foxes may see the uuh... disability? as a weakness.
Such a beautiful look at Ranch life with such conscious and consistent commitment to having their dogs and family share and respect each other in a common goal. City Folk could learn a lot from this model!
We have 5 Great Pyrenees on our ranch in TX. YTD, 4 coyotes killed and delivered to the barn. Our GP's are wonderful protectors.
Not all heroes wear capes.
Sometimes they wear armoured spike collars!!
Here in Eastern Europe they also have spiked breastplates sometimes for the Caucasian Shepherd when wolves are hungry like winter or in dangerous areas in the mountains.
@@bikerboy3k doesn't matter where they are from.
They are all still Good doggos!
Great video! As a professional dog trainer and owner of an LGD..a Pyrenean Mastiff ..this was very informational and spot on pretty much. The only thing I could see adding is the dogs will go after anything THEY perceive as a threat..not just wolves. You have a person or anything they deem could be a threat come into they're protective territory they will neutralize it. They're also aggressive and powerful breeds that need a dominant and experienced owner working with these kinds of dogs.
Absolutely, the owner of an LGD must be able to provide that dog with clear leadership. Ideally, every dog owner would do the same, but so many dogs from many other breeds will let us 'get away with' being lax in our responsibility toward our dogs to be their trusted - and respected - leaders. Those that don't often end up in shelters, on a certain TV show, or needing your help!
This great film has been hit over millions of times - I have also written about my book about this film. It IS one of the very best LGD films ever produced.
Self-taught writer, internationally published author and long time rancher Brenda M. Negri earned a living horseback for many years as a working buckaroo on several huge cattle and sheep ranch operations in the 1970’s and 1980’s in Nevada, California, Oregon and Idaho. It was then she was first exposed to Livestock Guardian Dogs used by Basque sheepherders who would pass through the ranches she worked on with their bands of sheep. Working for and living with the famous Nevada, California and Idaho based Marvel Ranches family cattle and sheep ranching dynasty, she spent some time with world-renowned horse trainer, Tom Dorrance. His teachings along with the Marvel’s Dorrance-based horse training methods deeply influenced her training and rearing methods with Livestock Guardian Dogs. She is a devotee of European dog authority and trainer Turid Rugaas, and has been the first American LGD breeder and trainer to actively promote the understanding of canine body language to further enhance human and LGD relationships. Negri practices and advocates co-existence with predators and promotes organizations such as Living With Wolves.
Negri’s papers and articles on working Catahoula Leopard Dogs; the desolate and tough ranch life of big outfit buckaroos; and numerous articles on Livestock Guardian Dogs, have been in print internationally for 40 years in publications including Dog World Magazine, El Mundo del Perro (Spain), Western Horseman, Molosser Magazin (Germany), Sheep! Magazine, Western Ag Reporter, Acres USA, Dairy Goat Journal, Goat Rancher, Working Ranch Magazine, Countryside, Backyard Poultry, RANGE Magazine, Nevada Rancher, Farm Show, The Shepherd, Western Ag Reporter, Goat Journal Magazine, The Akbash Sentinel, and others. Several of her papers on LGDs were included in the 2016 French published book by renowned French LGD expert Mathieu Mauries, Le Montagne des Pyrenees.
Since 2009 Negri’s ranch-based Livestock Guardian Dog ranch kennel has produced LGDs that are now working in over 80% of the country. She has has been profiled in articles in RANGE Magazine, Cowboy Ethics and The Nevada Rancher. Her ranch and dogs were featured in an multi award-nominated 2012 short film, Working on Common Ground: Livestock Guardian Dogs, produced by Conservation Media and People and Carnivores. To date it remains the most watched film on LGDs ever produced. Her dogs and training methods are featured in three Dogumentary TVspecials.
Negri served as a consultant to the American Sheep Industry owned Working Dog Liability Insurance program (workingdogliabilityinsurancedotcom.wordpress.com) and was responsible for writing it’s Loss Prevention Manuals and assisted in creating and implementing the ground breaking program in 2015 and 2016. She has served as an expert witness on a high profile trial involving Livestock Guardian Dogs.
Negri, 65, resides on her small Cinco Deseos Ranch in Northern Nevada outside of Winnemucca. She runs a handful of livestock along with a large pack of working Livestock Guardian Dogs. Her popular blog is at @t. Her second book, The Big Out There: A Buckaroo Life in Words and Art, is a compilation of vignettes and drawings based on her time spent as a working cowgirl on large cattle ranches in four states.
Those animals are awesome! Surprised they aren't using Boerboels and/or Rhodesian Ridgebacks in the mix, they're some of the best working dogs out there for livestock protection.
This is most dogs dream life! I wish I could give my dog a life like this just for recreation, without the danger factors of course. I walk my dog 1 to 3 times a day and keep her active. She has a great life but I know shed love to protect the herd! The 200 dislikes are from PETA freaks who think they " care " about animals but are so ignorant to the balance of nature. Perfect title! Its a beautiful relationship humans and dogs have...this is by far the most humane way of dealing with predators PETA freaks... And i promise you won't find happier dogs than this
Nice pack
I have an 2 Anatolians..they guard my miniature horse and chickens. .
Highly recommend that breed
what stop a big group of live stock Guardian dog from breeding among themselves?
all male flock?
Most LGD have a difficult time guarding foul.
+strain121 Neutering (castration) for any males and spaying for any females
@@NoctiDraws It is really important to not castrate males for the first few years as they grow a lot weaker without the influence of testosterone I have heard though
@@strain121 I think you just have to separate the females when they are in heat
Nice to see the young daughters working on the ranch. Much better than sitting in front of a TV.
This is beautiful to see. Much respect to you and your family.
These are working dogs and are happy to be able to work like this it beats being locked up all day they look well taken care of.
This is exactly why dogs were domesticated. It's truly great to see a working dog just doing its thing. I have a dog from working stock in an urban environment. Not actually realising just how different they are from a 'pet', it's incredibly hard work every day just making sure they are not bored.
dylan vasey they were originally domesticated just so they would stop eating us.
Absolutely amazing. Just love seeing vids on these guardian dogs as well as herding dogs. Amazing creatures.
This warmed my heart
Really good video
Pyrenees are my favorite dog, they're tough,sweet, honest dogs and will die protecting
Beautiful, love the interaction between human and the dogs. Great addition!!
We live in northern Minnesota. Coyotes, black bear, Timber Wolves and now cougars are the problems I deal with on the farm. We always had Kangals and they are very effective dealing with these treats. Since Kangals are hard to find, we went with an Anatolian Shepherd with the last dog and there is a difference. Even though they look the same, the Kangals are much more aggressive. They are more aloof, more independent and stronger.
5:58 hey brother look, im a porcupine now
Lovely video I'm sharing with all my friends so they understand LGDs in general. We have the Great Pyrenees and love them so never considered other breeds but we only have a small holding and don't need this kind of pack. Thanks for the work you did on this video.
Ohh I love livestock guardian dogs. So powerful and protective yet so loyal and loving to their family. Truly amazing dogs!
These are the dogs that deserve all the love .THE REAL DOGS ❤️ .
I have 2 Great Pyrenees. The Great Pyr' in your video, had unbrushed matted fur. I had to let my Pyr's go without brushing due to an illness I had and they both now have sores and hot spots so badly that they both are on medication. We had their double coats cut very short to be able to treat their sores. I kept them brushed out for 6 years and just stopping for a short time was all it took. I understand your needs to protect your flock. But I really felt bad when I saw that Pyr. I had a collie for 13 yrs and she protected me from aggressors a few times in my life. Do not be upset by this please. It's out of love for the Great Pyrenees breed
If we could only protect all of the animals and the innocent on this little ball of mass, floating quite miraculously in the infinite eternity, that we call Earth.
What really matters? Anything material is inconsequential. Any thing that has life should be cherished and guarded. We have unbelievable creatures like WHALES AND HORSES, SHARKS AND TREES! WATER, OMG, WATER!! I thirsteth for Thee Lord, like a dry and thirsty land.
Really? I've got a GP and have only brushed him occasionally to remove brambles from the mane around his neck. Brambles can cause a sore though as it rubs and irritates the skin. Otherwise never an issue.
Shut up
I actually love the kangals there brave dogs i never seen one before but i will love to see one one day
What a great story! I love the balance you've created, jus great work!
Melted when that puppy just slipped right into that spike collar, so cute and so amazing seeing how that collar will do only fit around its neck
Wonderful feature , please post more of this informative Conservation videos
We owe 2 animals a large portion of progress as a species: dogs and horses.
This is simply awesome! Protecting the rancher and wildlife at the same time.
Me and my found a great Perenese(can’t spell it) on the side of the road in Ontario Canada, just a baby! We thought it was some type of lab so we were going to keep it. The vet then told us it gets massive and that a local breeder gave up with keeping them safe and got his licence taken away after a bunch of dogs got lose, so we were aloud to take her but we knew as a family we could meet the needs of this dog so we gave her to an alpaca farm!
“They keep chasing it until the chase ends”
“Every 60 second, a minute pass in Africa”
Every 60 second a minute pass in Africa
By "chase ends" I think they ment "when it kills the coyote"
@@manofculture467 nah, when the coyote decides to jump the fence or river and leave the perimeter.
It's about dam time that ranchers and livestock people catch on to the greatest deterrent to livestock predation; the big LGDs. They are saving cheetahs in Africa and wolves and other predators here in the US and Canada. Humans cannot do what the dogs can do and without dogs, livestock is completely at risk without any protection.
BTW you have seemingly overlooked another breed which is my #1 LGD; the Caucasian Ovcharka. Males run 180-220lbs, bigger than Kangals. But Ovcharka is very family-friendly if raised around children. There is also the Tibetan Mastiff which I don't know much about.
This is without a doubt the scariest dog video I've ever seen. The sounds coming from this monster Kangal will strike fear in the heart of any wolf. Any man for that matter lol;
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Male Kangals can weight 110-180lbs depending on the ancestry and very in height from 2 1/2-3' tall at the shoulders. You must be thinking of the Anatolian Shepherd which is a separate, smaller breed from the Sivas Kangal.
Ok I'm not here to argue. I have no clue about the liondog's ancestry. But I will say that if I had to choose between a 100-110lb Anatolian or a 150-180lb Kangal mix for an LGD, I know which one I'd take.
BTW what is a Makali dog?? I Googled Makali and found a dog collar and a town in India. Maybe you misspelled the word?
Actually LGDs have been in use to protect livestock in the UDA since the 1970s.
The Tibetan Mastiff is more of a homestead guardian than a livestock guardian. Sort of like the guard dog equivalent of a foreman.
@mike sixx If you watch that video above the woman says her Anatolians were coming home beat up and chewed up and they were losing stock at an unsustainable rate. When she started adding Kangals her losses went down significantly. She calls them "Anatolians on steroids". That tells me Kangals are much better at guarding livestock than the Anatolians. They are bigger stronger and more aggressive in their protection.
They might be close in breed history but it appears there has been a deviation in mental and physical qualities....but I might be wrong I only know what I see on the videos I have no experience with any LGD breed.
Wonderful video!
I love how the emphasis is on coexistence! Great job 👏!
Love my Karakachan's! I live on 1.5 acres and breed/show African Pygmy goats. My K's like to stay by the goats and don't wander like some of the other LGD breeds. We purchased our adult male after a dog attack that left our first set of babies dead and the sire bleeding pretty bad (domestic dogs). That was 6 years ago. Since then (we have 2 Karakachans) we have had no problems. It only takes them about a second to break the neck of an intruder. I highly recommend getting LGD's if you have livestock. I just wish we had realized the need and had one before we lost our babies.
does LGD breed among themselves?
@@strain121 yep
they need to put a go pro on these dogs and film the interaction with the wolfs
these people have such an admirable balance between caring for the well-being of the wolves & coyotes, and those of their property and family. i love how that guy explained it from 4:25 & onwards.
I love how well the dogs interact with the livestock..
My dogs are equipped with sniper rifles and semi automatic pistols...
You ever watched Columbine? Keep an eye on that little bastards. 😂😊
My dogs are suicide bombers..
1:03 when you breed wolfs in Minecraft
That is absolutely genius way to mix dogs with different skill sets to protect the stock. They are all different personalities profiles. The common thread thru all the breeds is their protection and love for humans. I’ve had GP’s and they come no better. No doubt the other breads, some I have meet are the same, they live to please us. They deserve our love and respect. We sure love ours.
👍I loved watching this. I love Brenda Negri and her work. I love the Lockharts and their sustainable ranching views on coexisting with the natural wolf and coyote habitat around their ranch. 💞
This rancher has a very profound ideology while some others south of the border will just shoot the wolves !
they'll just shoot at twilight at anything that moves, and one guy shot his neighbors wife walking her dog. "just shoot it" is a MANTRA down south and you almost never see such posts from other locales, not even Iraq or Iran or Syria.
Dwight st. john doesn’t happen as often as you think, you can’t shoot and ask questions later unless you’re completely sure its an intruder
@@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki Hahaha absolute nonsense
Dwight st. john he was talking about Mexico, right?
@@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki she was probably ugly as sin
This is how it should be...
Thanks guys for considering the life of wild animals... most of humans who trespassed in the wild thinks they own whatever they put a step on... and doesn't really care about the wild animals that lives in the wild...
Dogs are so special man, we have to be thankful for such a wonderful gift.
Great concept, great work!
I love this video so much, I made a few myself. :)