Modern Layout For Hitbox/Arcade Stick
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
- L | M | H | Parry
Special | Assist | Nothing | DI
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On the assist button.... A tip for modern on hitbox, this is just preference, and nobody talks about this but I find it easier to not "hold" the assist button on hitbox like you do on pad. When you need the modifier, instead try to "tap" it "together" with your main attack button and separate the attacks in the auto combo into seperate button actions. Want two hits of the auto? Tap assist and mp, tap assist and mp. Two distinct actions. Instead of holding assist then pressing mp twice. It will come out and you can quickly swap your fingers to the other buttons for doing combos vs holding and pressing. No trigger on hitbox for "holding" like on a pad, so for me I found it easier coming from classic. This allows me to use the first button on the second row as assist without my thumb keeping the proper hitbox form on your fingers somewhat, using my index finger to hit assist on the first button second row and the middle, ring and pinky for light, medium or heavy on the top row buttons for the corresponding attack I want. To me it feels more like plinking a throw action in the middle of a combo vs holding a button awkwardly, which is unnatural on a hitbox. So I hope this might help some of you if your still trying this out from classic. I am still learning modern, so maybe this is better maybe not. But thought I would share what is working for me. 😊
Great idea! Gonna give this a shot. Always found the assist button so natural to “hold” on the pad, but weird on stick/leverless (leading to too many occasions of holding the attack butting and mashing on “assist” by mistake - or just missing it completely 🤣)
i'd recommend putting the assist on either light kick button where the thumb is or to the right of the heavy punch to hold with the pinky, feels a lot like just holding shift or spacebar on a keyboard while you're hitting any attack. then with the drive parry either on light kick or right next to it, if you're used to typing it's pretty easy to mix it into combos from there 👍
For the bottom row I do assist parry SP, with DI as the 4th button on top. For me this is the most flexible way for when I switch back and forth to classic
@@TheOneTrueHamtaro i try to consider the classic switch a lot too, i love modern cammy but hate modern guile, so i have my light on LK and medium on LP to maintain throw reflexes and heavy on MP all orbiting parry on MK while i use my pinky on top for the assist and have DI underneath that because it has a nice satisfying slap with the meat of the palm to splat it out. sorry that sounds dirty but it is what it is: fun
I was copying what was shown on screen when you test the buttons. This is much better and kinda feels like Marvel
That feels like the natural modern layout because my own layout was that after I switched because of the first “modern controls are the future” video
Me too
My man with the Blazblue layout, I get you bro
Yup.
You can shift the LMH buttons one over to the right to have drive parry/DI on the left for thumb pressing instead of pinky pressing, which is what I do.
It was def designed w pad in mind imo. When my stick broke not too long ago, I tried modern out on pad and it feels like it makes more sense on it for some reason lol
I follow a specific logic to Virtua Fighter and it goes as:
Top row:
Light, Medium, Heavy, Assist
Bottom row:
Parry, Special, Throw, Drive Inpact
I do recommend your thumb on any dedicated block button and that's the reason why I do it to hopefully give me the most accurate parries.
During Haitani's button check at EVO he used:
Light - Medium - Heavy - Drive Parry
Assist - Special - Super - Drive Impact
Consistent with what he tweeted. Also the same layout as tachikawa
@@kentchichi Awesome! Didn’t know it was posted on twitter. Was searching for a while to figure out what the Japanese Modern players were using, and didn’t really know until I saw his button check.
It seems the pretty obvious choice for using the thumb on the Assist buttons this way other fingers are free to move and use other attacks buttons.
@@dylanlerian5960 True. My issue with Assist on thumb is that throw is L+M, which feels unnatural. If, instead, you put L and M where LK and LP are (respectively), you keep the classic throw. Then put H on MP and assist on HP. If you look at their inputs, very rarely are they 'holding' assist since they never use auto combos.
But with enough practice, you could get used to anything.
@@raf_the_riffer You do needs assist for combos on characters like Chun Li afaik.
For the throw it’s just about being used to it. After a day or two it becomes natural. Well on some games it’s B+C for throw so it’s pretty similar imo.
My Modern layout is similar.
Top 4: light, medium, heavy, DI
Bottom 4: assist, special, super (heavy+special), parry
I find holding assist with my thumb to be very comfortable.
I personally put assist on the top right. Having said that, I've only tried modern for like an hour, but for my "main controls" on top row, for me it makes most sense. It's very clear that Modern is built for pads rather than sticks/stickless, but I'm going to try Modern myself. It looks like good fun!
Purple and gold are great colors
Funny cause I was actually looking for it everywhere after I saw haitani and shuto playing with the same device. I gotta try it
Haitani plays on a stick bro
I have my bottom row LMH and assist at the end for my pinky. It works pretty well and its pretty comfy
I’ve been asking for this a lot. Thanks man!
I tried a LOT of setups before landing on:
Top row: Special, Heavy, Assist, Parry
Bottom: Light, Medium, DI
It's by far the most comfortable if you use assist a lot. What makes it work is that my buttons are WAY smaller than those. It's weird at first to throw with LK+MK instead of LP+LK, but you get used to it. I super with LP+MP.
Dang, using all the buttons on the stick/hitbox? The future is scary. Time to unlearn some old muscle memory.
I've been on it for 2 years. But it's not necessary; any controller works.
The Classic Layout makes want more buttons (like Daigo did) and Modern give me more space to customize, but I'm still figuring out what is the best for me.
Because the Assist button it is indeed on an awkward position and I'm still trying some options. For now your empty button is a Medium+Hard for me, so I can use some manual Ex some times and also is better to hold Assist+MH to acess the HP from Cammy for some combos and also have acess to Back MP on the same button.
If you try this let me know what you think 👍
the champ is here
You planning to do a breakdown of the new Johnny trailer in Strive? Maybe show comparisons from him in Xrd and Accent Core? Interested to see what your thoughts are on him.
Thank you!
Enjoying sf6 in modern. i only have 1 arm and modferdn is great for 1 handed ppl like me
Try Cammy!
for me it's because of the mental stack which makes me panic and start mashing and spaming motions, plus my motions are inconsistent af. modern helps alot as It removes most of my mental stack and lets me actually play footsies
I almost forgot you could do this lol. Modern layout feels so off. This might help me.
Mean while i stay on my arcade stick and no i'm not a boomer 29. I have a snack box micro myself. I can't wrap my head around having a dedicated jump button.
It takes time to switch
Maybe you would like to try the Haute42 G16 or something with a similar layout?
I have the assist on the right thumb button, or right lower button not sure how to call it. And I will it fits pretty well in there. Really modern friendly layout imho.
That is a very awkward spot to hold the assist button. With a leverless with no extra buttons I would have to put the assist at the 1st button of the 2nd row to hold with my thumb. I got a leverless with an extra button next to jump so I just use that for assist.
Play what feels good to you.
I dunno that bbno$ playing fighting games
modernchads keep snackboxing
I do:
L - M - Sp - DI
As - H - DP - Super
Only way I could get assist to not feel extremely awkward.
That actually reminds me more of how I do things in 4-button games. I don’t know why I didn’t think of trying it his, because it seems obvious now to have Heavy down below like I would put HS in GG down there.
Ty
let me try this layout to make me more "modern" hehe, I was using the defualt but change top 3rd to assist and 4th to DI, bottom 3rd one button super, 4th DP
Waiting for my fightbox micro, gonna try this!
where did u buy?
Only recieved my own little custom made fightbox (really think its the same case!) Do you have a preference for which finger to use jump? As an old stick user i'm just finding it hard to adapt. I've noticed i'll use my index and other fingers on the right side and my right thumb does jump inputs. At first my instinct was to use my left hand for jump button but is there an ideal way to hold these controllers? Love the weight, size and customizability down to the high end mechanical keyboard switches.
Got a little OLED on mine too, Is there also a preffered SOHC cleaning mode you use? I notice it changes the movement a lot, I wondered what would be ideal.
Apologies for the few questions, Know you usually read these so why not try ask? :) Would happily send a few bucks your way as a thanks! I'm only on day 2 now haha. Wish me luck & thanks for sharing this, i was genuinely curious how you'd play Modern with one of these! Love Modern Honda rn.
You use right finger to jump.
I presume thats the right thumb, i'm so used to it being split i was so confused at first haha.
Hope to see more hitbox related videos for the boomer scrubs like us going from stick lol.
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Amazing controller design, I wonder what the lore behind it is...
until you use it, you won't know the flaws these controllers have. I have used controllers, hitbox and joystick and each one brings its own advantage so always try it before you buy it. My favorite is Joystick
What style of hit box is that? It's a perfect size. Please respond! I'm in love!!
junkfoodarcades snack box micro
Get a controller with 2 more buttons and put them around a space bar or shift button area. Imagine that would be goated.
I have a controller with 2 paddles and 2 top buttons and it's goated. for the paddles I binded parry and grab and for the buttons I binded DI and m+k shortcut(since It's the modern input for the command dashes) It helped me a lot for reactions to things
Where's the lever?
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woah are you the P4AU 2015 champion?
Have I mentioned it before?
God bless the Modern community. Stay lazy, my fellow kings.
Its a bit unusual i guess but here is mine
L - M - H - Sp
As - DI - DP - empty
on keyboard i use numpad 4,5,6 for L,M,H and 1,2,3 for special, DI, DP. I use the right arrow key for Assit
There’s only 1 row of light medium heavy? No punch or kick separation?
Not in Modern
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI it’s the simpler input on sf6 right? But you have the classic one
can we have the option to switch between SOCD neutral or SOCD priority or SOCD last win please..... because some of us will never use this controller in EVO.. we like to play at home ? maybe online software that can switch the different type of SOCDs or maybe you have better way ?
Most do have the option? For Snackbox you just change it in the app.
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI thanks for the feedback brother do they have video on how to change SOCDs in controller ? i mean a step by step video ? for snackbox
Brother , from where can i order it ? Its sold out on their website Junkfood since more than a year ..
Gotta go pick one up at an event 😭
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI you are the best bro . Am always re-watching your videos.
Do you hit assist with your thumb?
Yes, it’s awkward
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI I mapped it L, M, H, special top row. And then auto, parry, di, one button super on bottom. Working really well for me.
What does it cost man
Check their site. It’s Snackbox Micro
How do you do one button supers with no super button?
Direction+Heavy+Special
It's not really "1 button", but "one input", so it's basically instant
Super is executed by pressing Special + Heavy on Modern. You can assign a macro to any button combination of your choice. Simply configure a macro for the Special + Heavy input.
Just play classic lol
How much is assist button utilized by modern players? Anytime I've tried modern and use assist button I feel super dirty...
Assist button is used for normals, not auto-combos. Auto-combos are terrible and only worth using if you’re brand new and can’t do anything else.
Modern players sweat this game way too hard, anything to see the victory screen.
Play to win.
Modern... HELL NO! Motion Inputs are way too fun, satisfying & rewarding to me. I couldn't play a Fighting Game without Motion Inputs.
Play what you like.
You won’t play any more fighting games then since most of them will use directional inputs now 😂
@dylanlerian5960 SNK hasn't sold out to Baby Mode yet. I mean, is it really that hard for you guys to do a simple quarter circle input forward or backward? Pretty pathetic if you ask me. I guess you guys need Auto Aim on.
@@condescending28 SNK will probably follow the trend as any other devs will for selling their games. Also I’m a BlazBlue players so I understand it’s frustrating that games are going in the accessibility and simple mechanics ways. But that’s how it is sadly.
oh you can still do motion inputs if that's the only reason you don't want to try it. it even gets rid of the damage reduction if you do. i wouldn't play modern either if you couldn't; quarter-circles, zigzags, and 360s are as iconic as the characters themselves plus it makes it feel like you're doing karate with the controller