The History of Indian Music EXPLAINED By A Historian | Dostcast w/ Vikram Sampath

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  • Vikram Sampath is an Indian historian, author, and researcher known for his work on the history of music, culture, and political history in India .His contributions to the field of music helped preserving and promoting India's rich musical heritage, his work ensures that the legacy of Indian music is celebrated, studied, and continues to inspire generations.
    In this episode, Vinamre and Vikram Sampath discuss:
    - The impact of Gauhar Jaan on recorded music, and the historical context of recording companies and techniques in the early 20th century
    - The establishment of the Archive of Indian Music, discoveries made through the archive, and its role in preserving India's auditory heritage
    - The importance of historical documentation, living traditions and future sources for future historians nature
    If recordings and how it started in India excites you then this episode is for you
    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Introduction
    3:54 - Ethnomusicology vs Musicology
    4:24 - The Legacy of Gauhar Jaan
    16:04 - How his Music Training started
    19:40 - Record Companies in the early 20th Century
    20:07 - Recording Techniques Back Then
    27:32 - Discovering Berlin's National Sound Archive
    31:47 - How He started the Archive of Indian Music
    35:58 - Gaining Followers for the Archive
    40:13 - How he pursued a PhD in History
    44:36 - Archiving Criteria Explained
    45:45 - Discoveries from the Archive of Indian Music
    52:09 - “India has a Living Tradition”
    1:00:22 - Sources for future historians
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  • @dostcast
    @dostcast  หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Archive of Indian Music: soundcloud.com/archive-of-indian-music

    • @av1421
      @av1421 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @29:00 The west also has some of the rare veda-vedic chanting done by Pune Brahmin. Apparently the pune brahmin was the only one who knew of this particular method and it got recorded and preserved!! Way to go. India-Indians don't deserve our forefathers/lineage. We are horrible, horrible....

    • @av1421
      @av1421 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @54:00 Even today, traditional vedanta teacher do not care for recording their pravachan because it is not just meant for lisening but meant to be listened in the presence of a LIVE guru. SO it is oral traditions and thats why it is called Shruti

  • @wutangmuslin
    @wutangmuslin หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    This is what I call sidequest history. It's my favourite kind of history. The stakes are low. The implications are not severe, political or otherwise. The non statistical biases are often less. One gets to fully enjoy the process of research and documentation. There are no heavy chips on your shoulder. Thank you Vikram Sir for gifting this book to the world.

    • @head_scratch
      @head_scratch 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Very well said!

  • @saratsaratchandran3085
    @saratsaratchandran3085 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Vikram has a genius that most lack! His knowledge of Indian history has silenced pretenders like Tharoor. It is so refreshing to see his passion even in the history of music! Glad you gave up the ‘coolie’ job of the corporates. Hats off to you Vikram! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💐‼️

    • @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg
      @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vikram is nowhere near Tharoor !

    • @RT-oz3lg
      @RT-oz3lg หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Yeah. Vikram is next level.

    • @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg
      @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RT-oz3lg Next nevel liar !

    • @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg
      @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RT-oz3lg Next level of lying !

    • @RT-oz3lg
      @RT-oz3lg หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg What are those lies though? You've got some examples?

  • @showwithrathod
    @showwithrathod หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    All the historical wrongs are hammed by the great trinity 🔱 J Sai Deepak - Dr. Anand Ranganathan - Vikram Sampath. Hope to do the podcast with these gems 💎 one day.

    • @manh9105
      @manh9105 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You forgot the dad - Rajiv Malhotra

    • @SohamLearns
      @SohamLearns หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@manh9105 true

    • @srb1196
      @srb1196 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And Nilesh oak

    • @vihaanhyd-india7299
      @vihaanhyd-india7299 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mr Santan of PMO

    • @vihaanhyd-india7299
      @vihaanhyd-india7299 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sorry Mr Sanyal

  • @dxvishwas
    @dxvishwas หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    let vikram talk man-dont interrupt and ask ur questions- have patience

  • @revathiramachandran9663
    @revathiramachandran9663 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I have never heard or seen this side of Dr. Sampath. We usually see him talking about history and I always wondered about the rather strange Ph.D degree he held. I'm so glad this podcast explored the musical side of this down-to-earth man and his yet another amazing contributions to our Indian society. Thanks!

  • @jyotsnarao2939
    @jyotsnarao2939 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    What an amazing discussion! We are blessed to have Vikram Sampath ji amongst us!

  • @yogeshvaishnav8108
    @yogeshvaishnav8108 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Yarrrr..... Sir u r doing a phenomenal work in Indian music history and heritage

  • @nafeeshumayun4129
    @nafeeshumayun4129 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you Mr. Sampat. In the early 20th century, singers, mostly courtesans, had to sit down and sing before and elite audience; once the singing was over, they had to say their name in full before they got up to go. Like “Gohar Jan Kalkatte Wali”

  • @reenasahay9012
    @reenasahay9012 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Wonderful podcast. We need more like this because people generally get attracted towards the practical aspects of Indian classical music while the fact is that it has a history of its own.

  • @bhanujoshi9443
    @bhanujoshi9443 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Towards the last decade of the19th century Gohar Jan visited Jamnagar which was the capital of Nawanagar state in Saurashtra. The ruler at that time was one Vibha jam -Uncle of Ranjit Singh the cricketer and Raj gayak was one Aditya Ram, Gohar Jan had also some musical training under Aditya Ram. This matter was reported in Gujarat Samachar by a journalist Joravar Singh Jadav a few years back. This is for the information of Shri Vikram Sampat.

  • @yogeshvaishnav8108
    @yogeshvaishnav8108 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Aaj k famous musicians and singers ko promote krna chahiye iss work ko❤

  • @ksrs_18
    @ksrs_18 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Today I discovered a new talent in this man. He has done phenomenal work. I can't imagine how much time and energy he dedicated to this project. My god, he is something else. 🤯🤯🤯

  • @head_scratch
    @head_scratch 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great conversation..such rare infotmation! Loved the 'grandson' hunting for kauhar jan's grave & hospital details 😂

  • @shekharshivshankar3611
    @shekharshivshankar3611 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Absolutely brilliant. Thankfully we have people like vikram sir amongst us. Pranams.

  • @mahuyamukherjee370
    @mahuyamukherjee370 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you Vikram Sampath for your hard work. Future students of music and music lovers will grateful to you for ever.

  • @AkshayNalavade18
    @AkshayNalavade18 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you Vinamre for this podcast. Finally Vikram gets to speak about something other than Savarkar and other political historical figure. I wish you had spoken more because Vikram is such a great story teller.

  • @user-cp9md6de5f
    @user-cp9md6de5f หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    ÀN ARCHIVAL PODCAST ON THE GLORIOUS HISTORY OF INDIAN MUSIC. SHOWS THE REAL PASSION FOR BEING IMMERSED IN ALL THE NUANCES OF MUSIC ASSOCIATED WITH THE ARTISTS BEHIND THE MUSIC.
    A GREART ACHIEVEMENT BY SHRI VIKRAM SAMPATH IN CREATING A MUSICAL ARCHIVE ON INDIAN MUSIC IN THE CLOUD FOR EASY ACCESS TO MUSIC ENTHUSIASTS.
    I NEVER KNEW THAT SUCH AN ARCHIVE EXISTED.

  • @sandy2161286
    @sandy2161286 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is a real eye openener. Thanks for this veru enlighting podcast . MR Vikram Sampat is a gift who keeps giving ... Thanks for your dedication to your passion sir 🙏

  • @sandeepchitre
    @sandeepchitre 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What an amazing and insightful conversation! Thank you Vikram Sampath. 🙏🙏

  • @prasantapathak7724
    @prasantapathak7724 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Salute to Vikram bhai for the great documentation effort. India has so much treasures of different kinds, but longitudinal documentation of those are largely missing. Performing arts are particularly neglected. Thanks for this beautiful vdo.

  • @ttvraghavan9733
    @ttvraghavan9733 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Indeed a noble work from Dr Vikram Sampath born out of his distinct passion to uncovering history .. Kudos to him!!

  • @rajabhise474
    @rajabhise474 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you Sir...!! For your hard work and intense research ..🙏

  • @HistoryVibes-Documentaries
    @HistoryVibes-Documentaries หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “India is the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend, and the great-grandmother of tradition.”

  • @dharmeshparikh7837
    @dharmeshparikh7837 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing efforts by Vikram Sampath for preserving such rich musical heritage.

  • @vijaykumarr1803
    @vijaykumarr1803 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Truly multi faceted awe inspiring personality! Enlightened in the real sense 🎉

  • @vanithakrishnarao3888
    @vanithakrishnarao3888 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lovely discussion
    What depth of knowledge.
    Thank you for documenting so many hidden facts.
    Best wishes.

  • @hemapadmanabhan4913
    @hemapadmanabhan4913 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Deepest respect for Dr Vikram Sampath!

  • @Pange1969
    @Pange1969 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dr. Vikram Sampath is an enigma a brilliant one! Everyday is a pleasant revelation for us. Always happy to hear about him ❤

  • @shrikant901
    @shrikant901 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Such a great work done by Vikram Sampath

  • @mahesh_sagar1
    @mahesh_sagar1 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How do you feel to be in presence of greatness...

  • @saayamsingh3620
    @saayamsingh3620 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Salute to dr sampath 🫡

  • @ajitd5371
    @ajitd5371 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great work Vikram bhai.. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🌹🌹❤️❤️

  • @indianindianagain2827
    @indianindianagain2827 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God bless you Vinamre. Could not have expected it from any podcaster but u did it ! Hats off!

  • @yogeshvaishnav8108
    @yogeshvaishnav8108 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I amazed by knowing abt Berlin's national Archives

  • @Usert52861
    @Usert52861 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He is Anil Kumble of Indian History like a Wall.

  • @vijaykotianvk
    @vijaykotianvk วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great work

  • @naraharimg7558
    @naraharimg7558 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice interview. Very insightful.. Appreciate both

  • @ArchismanMozumder
    @ArchismanMozumder 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A enjoyable video. Thanks to the uploaded.
    The guest is erudite & eloquent.
    The host, despite slipping in some phrases of self-praise about his deep knowledge of music, hasn't heard an original recording of K L Saigal and feels that Lata Mangeshkar only became popular only from 1960.

  • @basantiroy6308
    @basantiroy6308 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this podcast. Most enjoyable and enlightening.

  • @prafullachandrashetty0830
    @prafullachandrashetty0830 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Are our Industrialists support him in his endeavours who are very generous to foreign universities which are blatantly anti Indian, other than our dear Mohandas Pai?

  • @rohiniganapule1083
    @rohiniganapule1083 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Too good.🎉 It was very interesting and informative.. Thanks to both of you.

  • @himanshutewari5045
    @himanshutewari5045 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Came across this wonderful conversation. Loved Vikram and his efforts! Not sure about the hosting skills though.

  • @sridhartoopurani4268
    @sridhartoopurani4268 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Appreciate your efforts Vikram. Much needed historical information.
    It’s true that our history has been neglected. We have so many such things which are not there…
    I’ve had the opportunity to visit some of the great musicians’ places and these places are not even known to the neighbours…
    Or tried to visit some veena instrument makers in Thanjavur famous for the makers of world famous veena and even the localites couldn’t explain location. A society building was in pathetic condition.
    There are several other such things. We should work towards protecting and propagating our identities.

  • @GuitarSuresh
    @GuitarSuresh หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent work 👏👏👌👌👍👍

  • @riteshprakash6361
    @riteshprakash6361 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow... This was Great!! 👏👏 ty

  • @apurbabhattacharjee6251
    @apurbabhattacharjee6251 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent conversation on music of yesteryears.

  • @Bhadrakalishakti
    @Bhadrakalishakti หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    first podcast of this channel worth listening to!

  • @av1421
    @av1421 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vikram Sampath we love you!!!

  • @sushmasingh8008
    @sushmasingh8008 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating!

  • @MJ1OT
    @MJ1OT หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My God! This Vikram Sampath is beyond brilliant. ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

  • @smitas65
    @smitas65 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My goodness, is there anything you do not know Dr. Sampath?? Kudos 👏👏👏👏

  • @ajayrajsinghchouhan92
    @ajayrajsinghchouhan92 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a man he is reading or listing him is such a pleasure

  • @priyamvashi2187
    @priyamvashi2187 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing Podcast

  • @Advaitvaadi
    @Advaitvaadi หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great insightful podcast

  • @upenbrs
    @upenbrs หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quite an eye opener 👍

  • @rahult1518
    @rahult1518 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fascinating..

  • @srijankesarwani901
    @srijankesarwani901 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so inspiring 😊

  • @DJJasmine2
    @DJJasmine2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We cannot change our past. We can not change the fact that people act in a certain way. We can not change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude.

  • @jayneelasexcellenceinengli5435
    @jayneelasexcellenceinengli5435 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I myself have quite a few old records, long play as well as short play

  • @karajkhosla
    @karajkhosla หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely thats what i needed 🥂🥂

  • @manisaraswatula8999
    @manisaraswatula8999 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wonderful

  • @sreenivasanmahadevan1028
    @sreenivasanmahadevan1028 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Salute to you, Vikram ji.

  • @jaypanicker2362
    @jaypanicker2362 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant

  • @sonukumarchoubey4510
    @sonukumarchoubey4510 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bahut Badiya

  • @rajotavo
    @rajotavo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very interesting...btw, Gauhar Jan, India's first music diva, was born in a Jewish family...you can research...✌️...a well known theatre production on her bio has been presented in the Indian metros sm years back...

  • @zaara33
    @zaara33 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    So fantastic listening to this. I read ‘ my name is Gauhar Jaan’ in 2014 and was mesmerised by the singer as well as the book, I had no idea it would turn out to be ‘the Vikram Sampath’ now! My apologies for not remembering the writer he was years ago! It’s a must read. 🙏🏾

  • @dhandrat
    @dhandrat หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is awesome ❤ Thankyou for these discussions, love it !

  • @pawansambyal4921
    @pawansambyal4921 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man wanna join hands .
    Love Bharat i.e India🙏.

  • @starzee15
    @starzee15 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Youre killing it, vinamre bhaiii! Amazing guests

  • @krackr6618
    @krackr6618 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Put them on youtube

  • @nirmalaanilkumar6859
    @nirmalaanilkumar6859 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is so good to listen to Vikaram Sampath sir. Proud son of Bharath

  • @Spinster87
    @Spinster87 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can play a 78 rpm record / platter / disc 20:19 on a record player which has setting for speeds with regular stylus
    Not a big deal as you make it.
    Taken over by Goenka group EMI now Saregama
    Lot of BS with regard to technology
    A master disc is created on a metal platter then the the shellac is pressed
    The master disc has inverted image so that the shellac has the pitted grove.

  • @poojakurundwad3333
    @poojakurundwad3333 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please do podcast in hindi 🙏🏻

  • @stuv_wx
    @stuv_wx หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ancient Indian knowledge distrubution system had brahmins as living libraraies and documents. And that's why brahmins are considered as the top tier or the jati-varna system.

  • @amritpanda7947
    @amritpanda7947 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    What generational talent looks like

  • @user-xh8xz2hh6s
    @user-xh8xz2hh6s หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤

  • @Candle108
    @Candle108 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    You are doing great work,Dr.Vikram Sampat💐🌹💐🌹

  • @DrManishYadav-bn1im
    @DrManishYadav-bn1im 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ग़ज़ब

  • @sunnyl.joseph6102
    @sunnyl.joseph6102 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic Conversation 👌

  • @user-xh8xz2hh6s
    @user-xh8xz2hh6s หลายเดือนก่อน

    🎉🎉🎉

  • @srabontibandyopadhyay5052
    @srabontibandyopadhyay5052 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do one on Indian Classical Dance, Natya Shastra and connection to Shiva, I am on Odissi dancer and would be happy to help with any queries!

  • @pavitraranjanswain4010
    @pavitraranjanswain4010 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please mention some songs with tune from 12th Century onwards.
    In fact all the film songs of 40s 50s were copy of some Hollywood songs.
    Only clasdical literatures had its poetries and some set of tunes.

  • @ganeshgodle
    @ganeshgodle หลายเดือนก่อน

    Soundcloud link

  • @TrendsLiteratureSeries
    @TrendsLiteratureSeries หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great one Vikram n Vinarme … it was great to hear !!!!

  • @APKoilNSapthagireesanjaya
    @APKoilNSapthagireesanjaya 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If a copyright has a validity of 60 years from date of publication, how sa re ga ma claims copy right of all music of hmv, Columbia etc records of pre 1964 ? Can. Shri Dr Vikram Sampat clarify?

  • @ranajeetidutta
    @ranajeetidutta หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have few old gramaphone records and even old cassette with me.

  • @svv8700
    @svv8700 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Let dr sympath speaks please .....interviewer is frequently disturbing asking too many questions

  • @omkarkulkarni5700
    @omkarkulkarni5700 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If only the interviwer could have stopped interrupting the speaker

  • @surendergupta7123
    @surendergupta7123 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please invite Randeep Hooda for a podcast.🧐🙏🙏👍

  • @shreyasted2392
    @shreyasted2392 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro then please check out ART OF WAVES

  • @gaganponnappa137
    @gaganponnappa137 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for having him. Fantastic. But can you kindly stop interruption your guests. Damn every line 🙄

  • @thedistortedguy
    @thedistortedguy หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Btw dr suresh chandvankar donated 4000 shellacs to nfai pune about a month ago

  • @rameshmuttur1236
    @rameshmuttur1236 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Vikram and the interviewer are at different wavelengths. The guy does not know what questions to ask to maintain the flow of research of Vikram

    • @SHRAVNITHA1
      @SHRAVNITHA1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      tHIS GUY DOES NOT HAVE THE LEAST knowledge about Indian music. His accent and his conversation completely reeks of western thoughts and indoctrination

  • @nakulgote
    @nakulgote 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mad lad Vikram Sampath.

  • @user-us5gt1ug8h
    @user-us5gt1ug8h หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thankful to th right wing government such intelligent youngsters are in the limelight

  • @AniketChaturvedi
    @AniketChaturvedi หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is he related to Sunil Sampath?

  • @ShivaYadav-uu7rl
    @ShivaYadav-uu7rl หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Sai deepak sir k sath 1 podcast ❤ . I learned a lot of things about of RIGHT WING after your podcast thank you for showing this side also initially i watch only dhruv rathee . Now i got others PROSPECTIVE ❤

    • @angeldance6284
      @angeldance6284 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No need to listen that german propogandist

    • @siddharthsingh8452
      @siddharthsingh8452 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sai Deepak a lawyer of india is right person to listen rethar than some nobody living in Germany 😊😊

    • @Vivek10010
      @Vivek10010 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Watch Kushal Mehra also, with the main focus being the guests he brings.

    • @TechnoViking__
      @TechnoViking__ หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Vivek10010he brought a feminist recently. She was ok with not penalizing a female who has filed a fake Rpe case against a man! 🤡

  • @sadashivnadkarni3811
    @sadashivnadkarni3811 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have uploaded more than 120 recordings of Goharjan on my youtube channel.

  • @akj616
    @akj616 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    May be a movie should be made on Gauhar Jaan . The script is waiting !!

    • @indranidutta1945
      @indranidutta1945 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bengali stage-play is there with actress Arpita Chatterji and I think the pakeezah heroine is based on her