Shashi Tharoor Vs Vikram Sampath: Debating Heritage, History & Hubris | India Today Conclave 2021
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- Speaking at the 19th edition of the India Today Conclave in the session titled 'Bulls in our Memory Shop: Debating heritage, history, hubris', MP Shashi Tharoor and historian Vikram Sampath discussed a range of issues from the history taught in Indian textbooks to the appropriation of controversial figures for political motives. Listen in:
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Let's appreciate Rajdeep's perseverance in exposing his own stupidity.
he is an fool no 1 but he has few competitors
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Rajdeep only 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
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The difference between Shashi Tharoor and Vikrams idea of of india is, Shashi Tharoors idea of india begins 75 years ago and Vikram’s idea begins 5000 years ago
And Rajdeep don't have any idea what's going on here
So the constitution of India is basically shit? 😂
@@alvenawasim3572 Obviously its a frikkin borrowed constituion, if netaji would have been alive he would have ordered to create a new constitution for india .
And Rajdeep's idea of India took a pause somewhere in 2002!
@@alvenawasim3572 absolutely.
Biggest irony of the entire video..... Rajdeep saying, "LET'S BE HONEST"
😂 honestly
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Rajdeep Sardesai sounds like he has witnessed the Haldighati battle with his own ideological eyes 😀
Immense respect to Vikram Sampath 🙏
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😂 Rajdeep Sardesai needs to retire
Rajdeep becomes very uncomfortable whenever Vikram starts speaking.
Pandey lol😂😂
true dude!
Yes Pandey ji. Rdeep WASTE n biased.
That's the power of Truth!!
The truth hurts. No other explanation for his obvious discomfort at having to listen to someone else speak on subjects he (Sardesai) has obvious opposite views on. I'd argue Sardesai has minimal working knowledge (if you can even call it knowledge) on the subjects he blabs about so of course he'll feel inferior and uncomfortable hearing Vikram speak
Vikram Sampath: Facts Facts Facts.
Shashi Tharoor: Opinion Opinion Opinion
Rajdeep: Bark Bark Bark
underrated comment
The Demon behind partition is British stooge & Agent Nehru, these fellow did partition & broke India & created Pakistan muslum rastra against the well being of country& People only to become the first prime Minister of India.... 👎 This is the history & truth which should be told in all our school & history books.......
@@sathu108 and the guy savarkar who wrote a mercy petition
@@ajaykc004 LOL everyone wrote mercy petitions ... as did Gandhi for saverkar since medal winner Gandhi was so trusted by the brits.
In one word you told the total story
Vikram totally killed it! He backed all his talks by logic! And every word was worth listening to! It was like Rajdeep and Shashi VS him , yet by the end he proves his point of truthifying HISTORY!
It is actually a 2 on 1 debate.
But still Vikram sir 🔥🔥
This is more a set up to get at Dr. Vikram Sampath and a desperate attempt to stifle the rising Dharmic 🕉️ consciousness in contemporary Bharat.
sadly, all debates in India are same where anchors behave as participants
Hats off to Vikram Sampath. He rocked this show with his deep research. Rajdeep as usual is a shame on humanity.
Yes,lol.
True
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Exactly
As usual 🤣🤣🤣👌
I loved when both of them just ignored rajdeep and started to talk facing each other 😂
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That jerk doesn’t deserve anyone’s attention.. I always remember Ambani’s words, wonder if even his wife takes him seriously..
yeah this was like sampath n shashi disagreeing on some points n then both of them debating against rajdeep
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Can you mention even one point in your video where they ignored him? IT cell is doing quite good job here in TH-cam...LOL
How polite Vikram sampath ji is 😐😐❤️❤️ showing how much knowledge he has because immense knowledge make person polite and calm ❤️❤️
Dr Vikram Sampath is criminally underrated. He should be given a bigger stage. A lot more people should listen to him!
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Yes! He should not waste his precious time to appear in a debate of Rajdeep Sardesai
R C Majumdar’s books which were not available earlier are now available stating real history
I am confident that in the days to come Dr Vikram SAMPATH would be listened to and acknowledged especially by the new generation of leaders of contemporary Bharat 🇮🇳
And that’ll happen only when such inflated egos like Tharoor are put in the dustbins of colonialism 🛑
The only person who tried to bring politics into the discussion was Rajdeep, you should be ashamed of yourself for moderating it this way. Though Dr. Sampath didn't get much time on, he have conveyed some strong messages, thanks for that.
Is he a traitor
Rajdeep is a traitor and he is living in India a secular nation that is why he is safe… imagine he being citizen in China or Pakistan and speaking against their history by now he would be in hell already 😅😂 traitor of the worst kind. Even hardcore traitors are killed on spot but india is just tolerating him.
Very true
Dr Shashi Tharroor Honest was questionable, it appeared he was trying to protect Nehru family and their wrong doings. Shahshi Tharoor may have protected Nehru family but he has lost voters today. Atleast I will never vote for a liar who conceals facts.
Rajdeep Sardesai is a clown and he comes out clearly a slave of Nehru family which is more and more evident. If Modi has got so much support today it is only because of liar media which hunting Modi and due to total distrust in congress party. Nehru and his family has been authoritarian and followed cancel culture from the very beginning even before independence. If he was not appointed by British he would have never become Prime Minister. Now we know where Rahul Gandhi gets this brains from.
Vikram Sampath in my view was fabulous he came out with his facts in an articulate manner despite the other two intimating him. Very impressive.
Well said.
Vikram sir is an absolute gem. His calm and composed manner while countering their 'political attacks' is commendable.Thank you so much sir for sharing this knowledge and being daring enough to put forward the harsh truth.
How many of you observed, Unlike Shashi, Vikram was describing India as 'her' 🙏
Because India is our Motherland and we are proud of Bhartiya 🇮🇳
Vikram Sampat: Let's speak Logic!
Shashi Tharoor: Let's speak English!
Rajdeep Sardesai: Let's speak Bullshit!
Haha good one
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Bravo 👏👏
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Pretty much summed it up! 😆😆😆
J Sai Deepak and Vikram Sampath are Gems of India.
Also, Rajiv Malhotraji! :)
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Also, Tejasvi Surya!
Totally agree with you. 👍🏻
@@Dog_Car_2468 lol
As an NRI, and an American whose ancestors come from SW India (Malabar), I feel so good watching these thinkers/philosophers/historians openly discuss their differences, and express their opinions publicly. India is an open society despite all the bad things attributed to a great land. So those who consider these as debates with winners and losers, don't forget there are ideological nations surrounding India where such discussions are held in contempt and participants shot or maimed over their thoughts. Keep it up. It takes me a while to get to these YT videos, but they are so educating.
Who do you think out of these 3 nailed the conversation?
Vikram ji - our country awaited so much to hve some 1 like u. The perfect narration of our past events icons and aberrations!!! Millions of thanks from youths of our time
"Let's truthify the history" - Vikram Sampath, 2021
The need of this country.
Damn right
There are many truths as he said in the end , with Blind men and Elephant story .
@@kaiwalyaghotkar832 mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌
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@@Abuzar_khan441 Ohh madrasha chap also comment here
It was 2 against 1 and still Vikram ji come out at the Top. So, one can imagine how much knowledge Vikram JI possesses on History of India!
Because he is beyond politics.
yeah, I also noticed, the host siding with Tharoor and interrupted him many times, speaking on Tharoor's behalf.
Vikram is a historian so obviously he will be
Vikram ka kutta😂😂
This is just an enactment of the infamous ‘kangaroo court’ put up by the Nehruvian rag ‘India Today’ where under the guise of holding a ‘debate’ the host an unashamed ‘minoritarian’ advocate gobbles up all the airtime! What a farce❗️
Only for Vikram Sampat Sir👏👏
I watched this episode today and kudos to Dr Vikram sampat.He totally nailed it.
Sai Deepak is little aggressive and Sampath is assertive
I appreciate both of them
True except that J Sai Deepak should be more aggressive and Sampath a lot more assertive. 😄
Abbbbsolutely. Shashi Tharoors for all his tirades against the British is not only British in accent but is totally Britis 8:53 h and also leftist in thought word and deed. A pretentious pompous conceit who deserves to be totally ignored if not jeered and hooted at instead of being celebrated and honoured.
Fabulously said haha@@gopalramanathan7062
J Sai Deepak while explaining many things correctly, there is a sense of hatred and ignorance in his thoughts that sampath doesn't have. Sampath is the combatant for the liberal while Sai Deepak is the combatant for the Muslims.
@@jayspice4987 Well you clearly learn the History , without any bias the reaction then doesn't seem so illogical . BR Ambedkar , Bhagat singh and many more Big people of our India has same result also that Muslims are never of their motherland first , they are of their religion
Vikram Sampath mentioned Tripuris..We are from the state of Tripura which was ruled by The Twipra Kingdom from time immemorial till India was independent We remained independent from time immemorial till now even mughals couldn’t conquer us.. we are one of the greatest independent kingdom of bharat.. we are here from Mahabharata time till now in NewBharata.
But no history book teach we that's the question..
Such an amazing piece of history hidden from us... Truly unfair 😢
Great history... But not in books
I wish your glorious history will be mentioned in the every book 🏆
Yes, for sure we want to read the history of North East part of India as well.
On one hand Dr.Throor has a viewpoint that the British should pay reparations to India and on the other hand he downplays the excesses and barbarism of invaders like ghazni, ghori, tughlaks, mughals, abdalis etc. You can't have different yardsticks for different invaders. It shows politics of convenience.
British were enemies of Mughals and Tharoor always is on Islamic side
@@bhavyap590 Britishers faught against Marathas. So which side he is coming from?
@@sanilyadav1450 Tharoor glorifies Mughal invaders so he is never on Marathas side. His side is his growing political vote bank
Has Tharoor converted to Islam?
Geez like no Hindu kingdoms never invaded any territories?? Bro India was feudal back then, you had to expand to keep your kingdom fck that what even Ashoka had to do.
I feel blessed that I am to able see and listen to people like Dr. Vikram sampath.. I feel so bad for myself that i don't know 0.1% of actually what happened.. so much to learn and listen to.. Again blessed to hear the other side of the stories bcoz i remember I amd my friends diacussing that our history does not feel like our history.. obviously we weren't that mature to contemplate at that time but certainly few years ago we used to have this talk.. But now i know why it didn't feel like our..And today's school going generation is actually blessed to have this content where they can parellely see and know the other side of the stories and even call out to teachers.. we definitely should have more and more this kind of discussions but maybe with an intellectual journalist who doesn't try to politicize it and also other panelist as historian... Favts vs Facts
Truthifying.... Good word....truly depicting the history of 5000+ years not just from 7th CE.
We have wasted 75 years & it is high time we do the course correction.
The only time debate becomes unbearable is when Rajdeep speaks , rest knowledge is top notch.
Exactly 😂🤣😂
This is not a debate, it's a discussion cause both intellectuals are agreeing on eachother's point which usually doesn't happen in debates
yeah i like both tharoor and Vikram but can't stand rajdeep 😂😂😂
Very true I can’t withstand that bastard
Naah, I agree with rajdeep, everytime he was trying to just finalize, summarize what each side told and put the question to next side.
(My analysis, free to reply to my comments)
“We might be politically independent but i think our minds are far from de-colonized” Vikram Sampath hit a bull's eye!
If a certain group or sect of people stick with their I securities and sense of being colonized even in 21st century , its their problem. How come the rest of us Indians don't feel this and just some of you ( or a hindu majority ) feels so ? Get out of it guys
@@bluej6127 So should I take permission from you to appreciate a great author/historian ? You made it religious also. Do something better dude
@@bluej6127 When your Supreme Court says that the medium of conversation is English, it reflects the colonial hangover of our country, even though "Satyamev Jayate" is not.
@@draxZz__ no, it only reflects that Indians are able to communicate in an international language. If you hadn't the opportunity to learn English, how would you communicate with me here ? If I hadn't the opportunity to learn English how would I deal with scores of people from all over the world on a daily basis which is part of my job ? I couldn't dream of such a job if I knew no English. I consider my language skill as that of power, that of independence, that of education ...everything positive. If you think English is not freeing you from bandage, I guess we need to talk about mental health. Not colonialism.
@@bluej6127 Either you aren't from India or you have no idea about the reality of India. It is a privilege to know English in this country to the extent that people equates intellect with English (which also reflects the hangover). Forget jobs and interacting with Western world, majority of people in India can't even afford basic primary education, also the reason why Govt of India had to come up with Sarva Siksha Abhiyaan and free mid day meal for students. To make it mandatory for an advocate to communicate and articulate his arguments in English which he wasn't comfortable in shows the colonial mindset of our system which isn't the case in European countries. Bdw the rule that states it is mandatory to communicate in English was setup by the English themselves to narrow down the flow of Indian barristers in British India. Stop assuming that every Indian has the same resources and access as you have. What does mental health has to do with this debate? I have nothing against speaking in English, obviously it is a global language and everyone should learn it if they can afford. I gave you one example of the colonial lens that we are subjected to look through.
Hats off to Vikram Sampath🙏🙏🙏
The debate was actually Shashi Tharoor Rajdip S. vrs Vikram Sampath sir
In the presence of mature, sophisticated and highly knowledgeable people like Dr. Sampth and Dr. Tharoor, Rajdeep's buffoonery gets especially irritating.
COULDN'T AGREE MORE.
Well said
Yes
Tharoor is Also Rajdeep with some more choice of words.
Both are colonial + G--haad wh!tew_sher garbage.
He is simply the arnab's copy..😑
If you life gives you a choice. Be classy as Vikram Sampath. Don't be shameless as Rajdeep 😂
Rajdeep desai is a true Muslim and his teachers and parents too who teach him false history. Rajdeep Desai is a pappu Chatu and today he is doing the same chatupana of Congress 🤑🤑
Or duplicit as the politician
Raju jesa toh bilkul nhi banna !
@@acediyartist9252 chatupana of congress😂😂
You folks are idiots.. he is asking questions .. that’s his job..
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH SIR VIKRAM SAMPATH ...THESE WOUNDS HAVE NEVER HEALED SPECFICALLY THE GREAT SCAR OF PARTITION OF OUR MOTHERLAND CANT BE SIMPLY FORGOTTEN . DR. THAROOR SEEMS TO BE DEFENSIVE IN TERMS OF OUR HISTORY AND BIASIS , CRAVING FOR COMPOSITE CULTURE ON THE EXPENSE OF ONE COMMUNITY ONLY .
This is exactly the kind of debate that we should have more of. Assertive, respectful and progressive.
"If you are going to deny history
Future will deny you."
- Self-Obsessed
Vikram sampath 👍👍👍
how ? lol . just a typical ajay devgan dialogue ?
Future accepted Gandhi all over the world, not Savarkar.
@@Winston44567 bcs in history we have wrote about gandhi not about savarakar.
@@Liberty55555 o 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@@Liberty55555 whatever but this Quote is true if you deny the Human History
From African caves to Moon,Mars and Evolution of Humankind
A Dark Future is ready for You
Sashi looks like the moderator
Rajdeep, speaking for the left.
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What an eloquent speaker, Dr.Sampath! You can see in his dialogues that he truly has no political motivations and honestly wants Indians to acknowledge their history, move on and build a better future. Dr.Tharoor, you have finally met your match :) let's not forget that the reason why history is getting politicised today is because as Dr.Sampath says, we haven't had closure. Even German students learn in detail about the atrocities of Hitler and the holocaust, it only helps them to come at peace with their past and not hold it against anyone. And if you support denying the truth to Indians, you are only risking the future of this country further, from more grave polarisation or communalism. And if the history of my country has to rely on such shaky bandaids, then you're also underestimating the constitutional secularism. INDIA has always been a pluralistic country, we have always accepted people of other faith and differences. So trust your country with its true history!
शानदार चर्चा🔥🔥🔥...इंडिया टुडे कॉन्क्लेव के आयोजकों को धन्यवाद l जिस तरह से दोनों (बुद्धिजीवियों) ने जवाब देने से पहले (बिना भटके) धैर्य के साथ एक-दूसरे की बात सुनी, वह बहुत सकारात्मक था और इतिहास को वर्णित करने के बारे में विक्रम जी का दृष्टिकोण थरूर जी की तुलना में काफी अधिक ठोस एवं संतोषजनक है।
As a moderator Rajdeep's personal likes and dislikes are out in the open. From his insinuating tone and false sense of righteousness, it is crystal clear which way he swings.
It’s also evident as a news person.
No moderator is unbiased. Most of them. Especially so in India today.
so i want to be part of your gang uncle. where you are paid to target certain people. Can you let me know your salary or what you earn per comment ? i spend a lot of time on net so i can earn and further your and your gang's cause.
@@OtisAdonisChad timesnow amchors only unbiased
perfectly decoded rajdeep mindset
Who wants India to be a Hindu Rashtra?
Edit: Thanks for showing support. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
spot on😂
Rajdeep time is over
GOOD JOURNALIST EXPOSES EVRYTHING
EVEN IF IT HIS OWN IDIOCY, BUT THEN WHAT ELSE ONE EXPECTS FROM LIKES OF RAJDEEP
not stupidity , his desperation , his journalism is totally compromised due to his and his wife's corruption , he's joined at the hip to the gandhi family
History relates to Karma and wounds are passed on from generation to generation, so learning the past, making everyone heard, and then making peace with it is required.
Nice to hear the unbeatable arguments of two brilliant minds.❤
Impressed with Sampath. He is articulate,polite and well researched
Vikramji is articulate and brilliant.
Now we are getting true historians. Thank you and all the best Dr. Sampath.
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True. Now I feel compelled to read Dr Vikram Sampath’s two volume book🙏🏼
40:40 Sampath nailed the argument
Take a bow Vikram Sampath ji. You are giving voice to what we feel all the time as Bharatiya who can't even talk about their own historical atrocities openly just because it's not socially and politically correct and will upset few people. It's unfortunate.
Today’s Muslims who were Hindus sometimes in the past can’t be blamed and we are not blaming them but those who still feel proud about aurangajeb , those must be sent to Afghanistan
coz we tried 2 tell a history in such a way which glorifies them instead of telling what they were...
thats what whitewash do
Before that they were Buddhist. 🤷♂️
@@bennet79 Buddha also preached Dharma. Bhiddhism, Sikhism, Jainism, Hinduism these are all Dharmic religions. Personally, I am ready to follow anyone or everything of these. I see no difference. It just depends on your perception of God. What you believe in. Sanatan Dharma allows one to be theist, monotheistic, atheist. Just follow Dharma and do the right thing.
@@bennet79 before british they all were one. In Nepal Buddhism is not considered as a separate religion.
@@bennet79 buddhisum arrived much more later. Yes lots of hindus converted to buddhisum, but later, bhagwaan adi shankaraachaary brought them back to sanatan vedic dharma!
Vikram is truly an intellectual. Very well researched and articulated agruguments.
@@guruv.k488 ? what's wrong
because , RW makes nowadays more research to speak ,and left just keep using same logic from 47s. That's why RW speakers looks more intellect
all that he has to say is unverified . no proof. well funded. and hence today. lol.
He should be our education minister and should rewrite history books include ayurveda history, spread of Hinduism to Cambodia, Chandragupta Maurya, rise of Bharat, southern kingdoms and history of temples. And should include glorious Hindu kings from north to south and east to west who actually protected India from foreign invaders with blood. India had history before Mughals. Also include truth of Mughals who converted people of India with taxes and killings. Include Sikh gurus sacrifices.
@@yogeshgoel6268 but if so much is included in book you will not be able to pass exam. lol i am so sure based on your comment i can bet on it. lol.
"Where were these virtues 25 years ago??" 🤜🤜
Dr. Vikram Sampath, thank you for enlightening us...keep enlightening...
Dr Vikram Sampath has emerged as a valuable asset to Indian culture.
You can only imagine the impact of Vikram Sampath from the fact that likes of Shashi Tharoor have started saying Savarkar as a complex figure rather than outright demonisation of Savarkar as a Hindu Supremacist and a bigoted individual. 😀
Yes
This is shashi throor a historian vs shashi throor a politician.
Who killed Sunanda Phuskar
Lad, get your English a lvl up.
@@itsyourboyb.s.rathore7950 sir, we dont serve englishmen anymore!
Good discussion! Mr.Vikram.Sampath is simply brilliant 👌🏻
India's true history must be told. Wholeheartedly agree with Dr. Vikram Sampath.
Mr. Tharoor seems to believe ignoring history will heal wounds of the past, but he fails to understand that it is this ignorance that is keeping those wounds fresh and not letting it heal.
Echos of the past always affect the future, and if the young population of India doesn't understand their true history then it is doomed to be repeated on them.
Rajdeep is that Dhol who is smashed by everyone 😂
Rajdeep - the biggest blot on journalism
😂😂😂
Shame on Sardesai style of journalism. He singlehandedly destroyed the reputation of India today conclave.
Yes, I completely agree. Someone of Sambit Patra's intellect should have been moderating this conversation.
@@FinanceUnlearn not much of a difference in this case
@@FinanceUnlearn No. My point is that he's doing a pathetic job of what's expected of him and I surely not wish to witness a shrewd politician doing the job of what an honest journalist should be doing (which this fellow is Not doing).
Sometimes I wonder how sardesai became journalist
@@thebatman0777 you have so much free time?
This is brilliant for the conversation on and study of ‘Identity’! All of humanity can learn much from this to better improve one’s own perspective and enhance one’s own consciousness as to how important our perceptions are not only to ourselves, but also to all. There is great wisdom in Bharata that holds many treasures as to what is this ’me’ I perceive my ‘self’ to be, and to what am I to identify with. As Bharati reclaim this, Bharat will re-evolve, and Bharata will once again shed much needed light for all. Well done. Namaskaram
Vikram Sampath - just exactly the one what India needs to know about the truthful history!
2:1 and yet how gracefully he has conducted himself! Kudos Vikram Sampath 👏🏻
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Very true
Samita mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌
Even I was thinking the same.
Absolutely killed it VikramJi. Your book on Savarkar was a eye-opener!
An placed prior to vowel
Totally
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Plz tell me the name ??
@@sapnabhardwaj2856 savrakar echoes party 1 and part 2 read it by Vikram samptah
This is what's called a constructive and a futuristic debate unlike the one in other news channels where the debate remains inconclusive
Vikram you are just awesome 😎 we need both shashi and vikram because we need such debates but not rajdeep in between
Rajdeep isn't capable of holding these kind of debates.This isn't political mumbo jumbo where you can get away with doing dalali.
History thrives on facts which is not Raju's forte.
Yeah that's what I thought throughout the session. What is this joker doing here, trying to sound intelligent.
Yes true
Yeah Arnab should've been there instead!!! who can forget his so called facts about being attacked near CM's house while covering Gujarat riots!!
Absolutely the likes of Rajdeep are not qualified to moderate such debates! In fact it would been a much better debate if Rajdeep was not there!
@@ThisisAnant93 Well, Arnab is not hosting here, so your comment is of no relevance.
Rajdeep's bias is so out in the open that he can't even act unbiased despite best efforts.
mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌
One should never forget your past. I can make peace with it and try everything to avoid any misdeeds in future.
Vikram sir, got goosebumps while hearing to your speech. Need to read your book and that is the priority for me now
there should be an option through which we can skip only rajdeep’s part
Best comment 👍👍👍
😂
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Thats what I did, I kept skipping forward whenever he spoke.
50% property right, TALAK ka right, Halala ban, job right, BURKHA freedom...gender equality..,👍✌😊.
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QUR'AN 9:5, PARTITION REAL REASON.
Never saw Tharoor running away from a discussion with tail down. l think first time he met someone who can speak more fluently and with context.
Watch J deepak too..
50% property right, TALAK ka right, Halala ban, job right, BURKHA freedom...gender equality..,👍✌😊.
KYA AAP MAN-WOMEN EQUAL RIGHTS SAHTE HAI?🙄 🙄
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QUR'AN 9:5, PARTITION REAL REASON
You much watch J Saideepak's debate with him.😂😂
Its mean you have missed Sai vs tharor.
See his discussion with Sai Deepak
No use trying to justify government previous at all costs
As for Raideep less said of him the better
Really admire the way Dr. Sampath carried himself in this debate and put forward his stand in an affirmative and composed manner.
11:13 can someone please tell me the name of this book
Dr. Sampath needs to be heard more, this man knows what He us talking. Him and K.K. Mohammad sir both should do series of sessions on in Indian History historically and archeologically as well
Hey sir u can visit jaipur dialogues on TH-cam once for correct history.
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Vikram Sampath is very right when he says "For the kids in school the story of her country is shown as a third person as of it belongs to some other nation" I always thought about it whenever I reflected back on the history I studied in school (NCERT) It clearly created my thought process that "British were good for India & Mughals were even better" simply based on the information in the textbooks glorifying British (indirectly) and Mughals Directly as well as most of the teachers doing the same. Later on in life I found out about the reality and about the barrage of misinformation it was I was shocked & felt sad for the younger ones still studying the same misinformation in Schools. So proud of Vikram Sampath for shedding some light of truth about our "Pyara Bharat" & giving a befitting reply to the "Brown Angrez" monopoly in the country and creating a bright hope for future generations.
Yes as Vikram said make peace with the past. Not bury it under the mat.
Exactly... The glorification and demonization of certain characters and the language used in the NCERT books really caught my attention... I would think about why was this so... But I am 19 now, I have Twitter and I now know why.... J Sai Deepak and Rajiv Malhotra first opened my eyes✨🙏🏻 VERY GRATEFUL!
@@ayushnair3587 they are more patriotic than the so called secular Hindus in our country
Thank god it's not a monopoly anymore.
But have to stay awake and united, if we want it to stay that way
i mean the icse text book says things just as they were
Who thought rajdeep was being stupid in the whole video?
Absolutely amazing Dr. Vikram Sampath, really underrated
Rajdeep was trying hard to entice Vikram by throwing politics and extremist examples towards him. Shows how desperate they have become to keep their false narrative intact. Love the helplessness. :)
mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌
@@shaitanknowsbest3822 Hi there. My opinion on this issue is that every religion or societal custom does need reforms from time to time. Most practices in religions are no cause for concern, but some really must be changed. The only issue is, that some religions are not open to these reforms and they are complacent in their ways. There are certain misogynistic verses in a few holy books that should be done away with, but under the fear of committing blasphemy, these verses haven't been removed yet. So unless the society makes a conscious effort to reform themselves, some sexist issues will remain. :D Hope this helps.
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@Khyalo Ki Duniya Umm Im not seeing your point here?
Vikram demolished both Tharoor and Rajdeep. See how they are struggling in front of one man called Vikram. That's why I call them"so called intellectuals" . 😂 Intellectuals who are confident and convinced of what they are saying with valid reasoning can be identified clearly. The grace of Vikram says it all 👍
Yeah, cuz Vikram is playing on a flat wicket at a time when Islamist terrorism is prevalent everywhere and it's convenient to throw Indian Muslims under the bus. Exactly what he is doing.
Shashi Tharoor is justifying our history textbooks where we haven't been taught to hate muslims; where we could have easily been taken a convenient muslim bashing route, anti-muslim bigotry (anti-hindu in Pakistan's case). A route to disaster what this current compensation is taking. A route where end result is destruction, all this just to satisfy the false bravado & egos of self- acclaimed 'nationalists'.
@@satyapriyadarshi93 you got it all wrong. The topic of discussion is Indian History, not muslims 😂
@@DEVAN133 Tharoor and vikram both were good. Infact tharoor was acknowledging many of vikram’s points. So keep your shitty political views with yourself. 💩💩
@@itatube7594 Back at you, 🐕.
It's political and communal. Muslims must denounce those who have been alien and antagonistic to India.
If not, they pay the price.
@@satyapriyadarshi93 Muslims feel they can idolise only muslim icons. So, Congress made it for them.
This is what we need to reverse.
Face it and move on.
If not pay the price.
And moreover, don't use rhetoric like tharoor did.
An f ing disgrace.
I hated history in school... only for this reason. But now, I love the subject.
Mr. Sampath this country needs you even more..our generation was blinded by one sided shaded narrative…but next generation should be taught right history
Vikram Sampath is sharp and to the point. Too good to hear him.
Rajdeep Sardesai should be thrown outside such events, he keeps interrupting.
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Dr Shashi Tharroor - Honesty was questionable, it appeared he was trying to protect Nehru family and their wrong doings. Shahshi Tharoor may have protected Nehru family but he has lost voters today. Atleast I will never vote for a liar who conceals facts.
Rajdeep Sardesai is a clown and he comes out clearly a slave of Nehru family which is more and more evident. If Modi has got so much support today it is only because of liar media witch hunting Modi and due to total distrust in congress party. Nehru and his family has been authoritarian and followed cancel culture from the very beginning even before independence. If he was not appointed by British he would have never become Prime Minister. Now we know where Rahul Gandhi gets this brains from.
Vikram Sampath in my view was fabulous he came out with his facts in an articulate manner despite the other two intimating him. Very impressive.
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@@lisaalfred8504 Prior to 1947 many partitions of India took place and much of the hindu lands were made into separate countries now (Most of them are now muslim counties like Indonesia, Malaysia, Afghanistan, but some Buddhist countries like Myanmar, Burma, Tibet (which was in 1950 occupied by china). Finally in 1946 East and west Pakistan was made by the british but east Pakistan later separated from Pakistan and became Bangladesh. (Both
Muslims majorty nations)
In 1947 neither Nehru nor Jinnah was elected by the people they were both appointed by the British.
In 1947, the British firstly partitioned India to create Pakistan in 1947 based on religion. India for 90% Hindus, Sikh population and Pakistan for only 8-9% Muslims population. But the land given to create Pakistan is 30% of India this was achieved via 30% reservation to Muslims in provisional elections.
But in 1947 the British decided to give 30% of India land was given to form Pakistan which was for the only 8-9% Muslims living in undivided India. In 1947 90% Indian muslims voted for creation of Pakistan and then later the same muslims stayed back in India and claimed they were loyal Indians. If they were loyal why did they vote for creation of Pakistan. So 10% of Muslims enjoyed a largely uninhabited Pakistan for muslims. Whereas my grand parents who were Hindu came to an over crowded India not knowing that 90% muslims will not leave the part created for hindus by the British. But this did not bother the British after all this was not their problem. But those 22% Hindus who stayed back in west Pakistan were killed/ converted / forced out by 1991 census their population was reduced to less then 2%. Same happened in east Paksitan hind or bangladesh Hindus were reduced from 29% to 6.5%.
In 1947, My Grand Parents were living in current day Pakistan but they were given no choice, Either leave our ancestral home in sindh over night & flee to India or be killed or forcefully converted to Islam. So my grand parents migrated to India as we were told this will be country for Hindus. But this was not the first time ours ancestors had already migrated 6 times earlier due to the Muslim Invasions of India from 10th century to 16th Century.
Indians were forced by the British to appoint a certain family favorable to the British hence Nehru was appointed ( not elected by Indians) as Prime minister of India. Till this date this family controls Indian congress party (who ruled India for 65 years since 1947). This family obliged the British to remain in power. Earlier this family had muslim ancestors later they pretended to be Hindu but now the daughter in law took over as head of congress party and she is Christian.
In Pakistan similarly Muslim league was caretakers but later Pakistan army done a coupe of constitutional leadership but they themselves became vassals of the Americans later.
Never forget it took 75 years of independence to get a verdict in favor of Ram Mandir. 65 years of that was under congress rule.
Because India was divided based on religion and India was made for Hindus. In 1951 when the constitution of India was drafted the British forced changes to the constitution of India via the Indian congress party to add clauses to protect rights of the minorities in India.
So the Constitution of India says that Minorities of India have right to practice own religion, and they are allowed to teach own religion texts like bible in schools where minorities are in majority. But the congress party later translated that Hindus cannot get these same rights as minority as constitution does not clarify that Hindu majority schools can teach hindu texts like bhagwad gita and vedas in hindu majorty schools. Hence till date Hindu majorty schools in India cannot teach Bhagwad Gita and Vedas but Muslim majorty school are allowed to teach quran and Christian majority schools allowed to teach bible. Actually now hindus in Muslim majorty school must learn quran and bible if they go to Christian majority schools should they opt for it else they can choose social science. But there is not such arrangement for Hindu majority schools.
Another thing that happened in 1951 is that Muslims who stayed back in India were not accepting universal law drafted for all Indians. So the congress party appointed Prime Minister Nehru allowed Muslims to follow partial sharia in India whereby they were allowed to marry 4 times but Hindus were denied this right despite their religious scripture do not require them to marry only once. As they were forced to accept universal law (renamed as Hindu code bill) which was universal code bill originally drafted for all Indians. Hindus who protested against this were shot dead. Hence no choice was left but for hindus to accept this. The impact of this was that the Hindu population which was 92% in 1946 changed over the years reduced o 76% and the muslim population in India increased from 8% to 24% but officially we are told muslim population is just 14% during last census.
The constitution of India further said that minorites can manage own religions institutions and NGOs. But since the constitution did not clarify this for the hindu majority the Hindu temples in India for the last 75 years are controlled by the state government. And since the government officers can be christian or muslim so any officers can be assigned responsibility to manage the security and treasury of the temples. Congress made sure anyone who protests will be dead and media never covered anything nobody will be left alive to tell his story. Hence in India you can find temples controlled by Muslim or Christian IAS officers of the govt but this is never the case with churches and mosques. As there is no govt control in constitution for minority institutions,
Since the govt controlled the treasury and security of the temples. they could at will withdraw money from temple treasury for the greater good of India and its minority welfare. many a times the money taken from treasury of temples was transferred to chief minister fund and then from there it was used for rice donations to Christians and Muslims during their festivals. This is why christian and muslims will only vote for congress party in India. Rice donation to minorities in billions of dollars made with temple funds. Very few news papers and media wrote about this
Teaching Sanskrit in schools was already stopped by British in 18 century and replaced with foreign language Persian and English made compulsory. As you know the only language Hindus can read vedas or religious scripts is Sanskrit so gradually children was forced to leave Sanskrit due to which Indians now cannot read from own religious scriptures' so now they depend on the translations made by Germans, British, American Sanskrit scholars. We dont have the means to challenge them even if these translations are fake and corrupt because we dont have research funding in India for Sanskrit. Very few people know Sanskrit in India, Nehru and his congress gave funding for persian, arabic, urdu but not for sanskrit. Now Nasa uses sanskrit but Indians dont use sanskrit. And because Sanskrit is not taught and we cannot read our scriptures most Hindus donot know that Hindu was the name given to us by our invaders it was never the name of our religion, Sanatan dharma is the real name. We dont know that caste is not in Sanatan Dharma but a Portuguese word and British who captured caste in their census documents on purpose to divide Indians. Till date you will see christians & muslims always talking about caste discriminations which are fake, as they were never part of hindu religion. Sati became a practice after islamic invasions.
During Islamic invasions girls would be kidnapped by Muslims so to avoid being kidnapped they would kill themselves in absence of any male family member alive to protect them. But the foreign wester writer wrote in their books that this was Hindu religious custom where as it was social solution social due to situation not part of religion. Such fake translations are constantly used in western media to demonize Hindus.
The history Indian books and school curriculum books are written to glorify islamic invasions/ donot tell us much about the persecutions by the British but they also ignore to teach us about many of the great hindu rulers of the past. Hindu history is taught with a purpose to create low esteem among Hindus. Our school curriculum books show Hindus and Brahmins in low light. Recently our school teachers are even started teaching us that Kashmir does not belong to India which is far far away from the truth.
Despite there is a Hindu majority in India it took us 75 years of court battle to get rights to a temple in India which was illegally occupied by Muslims and Hindus believed it to be birth place of one Hindu god but the case which was started before independence during British time they did not want the Hindus to have this temple so it was differed. This is because our Judiciary system still works they way British wanted them to work. It is not designed for justice but to keep Hindus deprived of justice. In 2019 the judment we have been waiting for a century finally came but we gave the muslims
In 1990 in Kashmir the Kashmiri Hindu pandits the original inhabitants whose ancestors lived in Kashmir more then 5000 years faced exodus at the hands of the muslims who came from outside but some sections our Indian media were justifying the genocide and exodus of Hindus saying it was because the the hindus were too educated and hence holding privileged jobs in Kashmir which deprived the muslims so the kashmiri muslims have every right to lynch them to death and do their exodus.
Whoever said that to you Mr. Tharoor is very proud of what they had not been through
Amazing knowledge and view points with facts & evidences by Vikram. Hats off
Vikram sampat is one of the most under rated personality of recent times.
He should be given the responsibility to rewrite history.
Just can't stop listening when he speaks . It's not just articulation but knowledge and sharpness.
As Vikram says, current govt needs to correct history asap. The opposition will shout from the rooftops.
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Opposition be like :- prepare for 2029 nothing will get in 2024
If Indian liberals and political party with agenda glorifying butcher like Tippu for their own benefit we should shy away calling them Desh drohi too...One who celebrate your country's destroyer can't be called a leader anyway.
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@@vadirajt Thats the irony of this country. Vikram said that, "U have bakhtiyarpur town near ruins of Nalanda" Aint that amazing ? We R a "brainwashed Republic"
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N we praise "bharamans" even when it's a brahamab who asked Bakhtiyar to burn down the nalanda
Shashi would never debate Sai Deepak and Vikram Sampath again 😂
My god Vikram Sampath is fountain of knowledge. It’s one thing to argue effectively, succinctly and cohesively but just the fact that he comes from such a place of deep research and knowledge.
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It would have been a very productive discussion without Rajdeep's presence.
No, you're mistaken. Such clowns' presence is desirable to some extent.
Dr Sampath is truly a gem for this country ❤
Vikram sampath sir 😢 a huge respect for holding all the truths and still being calm 🙏🙏♥️
Very well presented Dr. Sampath. You were very consistent and clear in your point of view about "truthifying" history while Dr. Tharoor's in the end, just took a balanced approach with a tinge of sly on the current government while his own party had indulged whitewashing the other side of history. That was just hypocritical of Dr. Tharoor. Nevertheless, overall a good discussion barring Sardesai's loonicasies.
Loonicasies.That's a wonderful word.
Well put.
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@@jayanthisrinivasan9055 mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌
and Is marriage nacessary🙄
I have rarely seen tharoor being apologist in any interview to protect his party! Proud of you Vikram sampat! We need voices like you in international press debates representing India.
Exactly and for the first time I saw that Tharoor didn't have an answer when he was asked how he wants people to remember British colonization but doesn't want to remember August 14 or brutality of Mughals. It's not easy to win any argument against Tharoor.
You should also watch J Sai Deepak completely demolish Shashi Tharoor on his own book launch event… Dr. Tharoor was absolutely short on replies by questions and facts bombarded by JSD.
@@shrutiv8866 Tharoor is one of the few people in Indian politics, who can go against the idelogy of his own party and apologies for it's wrongdoings on stage. A clap for Mr. Tharoor as well.
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KYA AAP MAN-WOMEN EQUAL RIGHTS SAHTE HAI?🙄 🙄
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@@shrutiv8866 mam, may i know your prepective...on how religions affect women empowerment...and should religions change with time 🙏😌
It was not Shashi Tharoor vs Vikram Sampath, it was Vikram Sampath vs Rajdeep Sardesai. Still Vikram defeated both of them 😅
Exactly
Idk about the moderator but both tharoor and vikram seemed very open minded and with good intentions. A very knowledgable discussion.
I wasn't sure how someone can/ would be so articulate in front of Dr. Tharoor, listening to this entire discussion was such an eye-opener as a history lover. The entire credit goes to Vikram Sampat for his excellent presentation, the points put forth, and his entire poise was so attractive to not leave this conversation. However, we could have had Rahul Kanwal for this!
well in that case you ought to see your false idol and arguably the most dishonest intellectual of our time getting demolished by J Sai Deepak in a book launch event and discussion. You can find the discussion on Tharoor's youtube channel.
Shashi Tharoor is a White Indian trying to be British
You should watch Shashi Tharoor's discussion with J Sai Deepak who completely demolished his arguments with his facts.
Dr Shashi Tharroor Honesty was questionable, it appeared he was trying to protect Nehru family and their wrong doings. Shahshi Tharoor may have protected Nehru family but he has lost voters today. Atleast I will never vote for a liar who conceals facts.
Rajdeep Sardesai is a clown and he comes out clearly a slave of Nehru family which is more and more evident. If Modi has got so much support today it is only because of liar media which hunting Modi and due to total distrust in congress party. Nehru and his family has been authoritarian and followed cancel culture from the very beginning even before independence. If he was not appointed by British he would have never become Prime Minister. Now we know where Rahul Gandhi gets this brains from.
Vikram Sampath in my view was fabulous he came out with his facts in an articulate manner despite the other two intimating him. Very impressive.
I , too, was about to mention j sai deepak and m happy seeing his popularity in comment section
Rajdeep is doing lot of talk like an actor than an anchor and his poor understanding of History and History writing is fully exposed
@Soham Kumar did bhagat singh confess that he was a communist but how can someone be Communist when he reads Arya samaj simultaneously
@Soham Kumar puch raha hun bhai kya bhagat singh ne bola tha woh communist hai?
@Soham Kumar but the same communists advertising him for influencing young people towards Communism
Pardon him, as Mukesh Ambani said don't take him seriously 😂
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Vikram Sampath's clarity of thought is amazing. And he has actually raised the real issue that no one addressed. Social peace cannot be brought until the past crimes have been addressed and made peace with. Its not like the past wounds had healed. It's just we didn't know that there were these wounds. Now that people want to talk about it, suddenly, you are saying why now. It's a political agenda etc. etc.
Unfair not to give equal time to both the Speakers. And Rajdeep should stop hogging the show. Vikram Sampath's excellent as always, polite and at the same time conveying his point. What I found particularly amusing was Dr.Shashi Tharoor opining about Vikram's magnum opus on Savarkar without even fully reading it!
Shashi's only prerequisite for attending this event was JSD's confirmed absence.
Who's JSD?
@@ashwinpandey5001 J S Deepak
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