Gradual Change or Eternal Inertia: The Pseudo-Secularism in India | DU Lit. Fest |

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  • In a thought-provoking discussion on the future of India and Hindus, This talk highlights the contrasting views of the two authors. While one author's book instils hope for a mature dharmic state and India's rise, the other author's book presents a fearsome case for Hindus. In the context of the celebrated Pran Pratistha at the Ayodhya Ram Mandir and PM Modi's potential comeback, one can find here a discussion of various topics related to Indian politics, including the future of the Hindu community, the Modi government's stance on Hinduism, the Kashmiri Hindu Exodus, the problem of leftist rhetoric and hypocrisy, the geopolitical impact of the Modi government, the role of history and its interpretation by leftists, and the concept of secularism in India. Let us understand here how Nehruvian secularism is a farce and true secularism lies in the civilizational ethos of India.
    About The Speakers:
    Rahul Shivshankar: He is an Indian journalist and an Indian TV anchor who worked as the editor-in-chief at Times Now. Before joining Times Now, He worked in print and TV journalism. Currently, He is working as a consulting editor at CNN-News18.
    Anand Ranganathan: He is a scientist, an author, and a famous face on television debates on Politics, Media, and Science. His columns have appeared in Swarajya, DNA, etc.
    Aabhas Maldahiyar: He is an Architect, urban designer, and columnist with an intense love for History. He is an accomplished author.
    Topics Covered:
    0:00:00 Sanitisation of History by Leftists
    0:01:12 Two Books: Antithesis of Each Other
    0:02:28 Interrogation of The Left Position and The Modi Event
    0:09:08 The Modi Government is Neither Anti or Pro Hindu!
    0:13:04 Kashmiri Hindu Exodus: Supreme Court Decision
    0:14:46 Neither Hidurashtra Nor Democracy for Hindus
    0:16:49 The Fundamental Problem: Leftist Rhetoric And Hypocrisy
    0:19:37 True Democratic Ethos Under The Rule of Hindu Kings
    0:22:19 The Geopolitical Aspect: Impact of Modi Government
    0:30:22 Retelling, Not a Distortion of History: Leftist Meltdown
    0:42:27 Demolition of Babri: A Banter
    0:46:54 Secularism in India: A Big Question Mark
    0:48:14 Nehruvian Secularism: A Farce
    0:51:51 Civilisational Ethos of True Secularism of India
    0:54:15 QnA: The Dilemma of Minority Politics
    0:55:40 QnA: Do Reclaiming Ram Janamabhomi Would be Possible Without Demolition?
    0:58:58 QnA: Hindumisia in South India
    0:59 14 QnA: A Leftist Whataboutery
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  • @Thebigbangshow7777
    @Thebigbangshow7777 หลายเดือนก่อน +313

    India - Hindu vs muslims
    China - Atheist vs Muslims
    Sri Lanka - Buddhist vs Muslim
    Israel - Jew vs Muslim
    France - Christian vs Muslim
    Myanmar - Buddhist vs Muslims
    Middle East - Muslim vs Muslim

    • @ad67804
      @ad67804 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      They will destroy themselves

    • @TukulParida
      @TukulParida หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is not completely true. They have created as of now 57 countries Is la mic by destroying the native culture of those countries.​@@ad67804

    • @DeshuSalian
      @DeshuSalian หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Peaceful are the main reason for the world disturbance

    • @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg
      @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ad67804 Pseuo histories of ramayana , mahabharatha !

    • @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg
      @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very brilliant propagandist !

  • @mappaji
    @mappaji หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    They didn't name their son Taimur without knowing the meaning. They did it purposely to mock Hindus. The Hindus carelessly go and watch their movies. You all know whom I am referring to.
    In case of the Chief Minister named after the dictator of Russia, at least when he was named by his father, that dictator of Russia was still worshipped.

    • @kp..1156
      @kp..1156 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      He openly spoke that he couldn't name his son Raam. We can guess what his thoughts would be abt his kafir maternal relatives..

    • @UTube4MN
      @UTube4MN หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That Russian named fellow will face quite a situation if he ever visits Russia today. 😂

    • @DhirenVyas261
      @DhirenVyas261 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly. I hope hindus understand this asap. My blood boils when idiotic hindus watch their propaganda movies and also admire them. its like bakra is falling in love with kasai.

  • @rationalthinker2724
    @rationalthinker2724 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    Tippu killed 800 iyengar brahmins in one Deepavali night in Melukote near Mysore !!
    Even till today Melukote do not celebrate Deepavali!

    • @prangsudh
      @prangsudh หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This isn’t written in any book. No historian talks about this.

    • @rationalthinker2724
      @rationalthinker2724 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@prangsudh th-cam.com/video/W_3EXnNkVOE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=DKBG87O2FgzJsGPd

    • @rationalthinker2724
      @rationalthinker2724 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@prangsudh th-cam.com/video/zzOqNuSOiK4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZNauEcxD-HgsNobU

    • @ktyayan
      @ktyayan หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ​@@prangsudh read Malabar Manual by William logan,, History of Mysore by Lewis Rice or Tipu Sultan Hero Or Villan by Sitaram Goel

    • @shubhanadigar5692
      @shubhanadigar5692 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😮😢

  • @Thebigbangshow7777
    @Thebigbangshow7777 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    Islam originated from Mecca but -
    India has the second largest Muslim population
    India has second most number of mosque
    India was partitioned on the name of Islam
    So many countries which were a part of India in ancient times are now Islamic countries
    50000 temples were demolished during the Islamic rule in India
    there are 57 Islamic countries more than 100 Christian countries but no Hindu countries in the world because Hindus are the CEO of secularism only Hindus have taken the responsibility of secularism others are busy in converting people
    Still Hindus are secular

    • @Anonymous-pj1xk
      @Anonymous-pj1xk หลายเดือนก่อน

      If Secular Hindus could not save themselves and their Land, religion through out the history then these are not the Positive or Divine qualities in them , but of Cowardness, Stupidity, Bias mind and Mental as well as Physical Weakness in them. This kind of Secularism can only be called as Pseudo-Secularism.

    • @Hanuman1343
      @Hanuman1343 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So true. Hindus are still not smart enough. They get cheated by those who hate the Hindus easily.

    • @mahanbharatiyasabhyata3834
      @mahanbharatiyasabhyata3834 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only muslims are exceptions. Otherwise most Christians and Buddhists are secular too now a days. Dont make muslims your idol.

    • @adityasuryavanshi3687
      @adityasuryavanshi3687 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We should start converting everyone in our country at least

  • @swaradakp2
    @swaradakp2 หลายเดือนก่อน +234

    True.. After reading Anand Rangnathan's book.. I can't describe the state of my brain and heart..being basically of fiery nature..his book has just made me like a volcano.. a word wrong by friend and relatives i just burst out for supporting the wrong people if they do..
    One thing is - you can actually hear Anand R speaking as you read the words. He has exactly written the books as he speaks on stage or debates.

    • @Raut-warrior
      @Raut-warrior หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Yep it makes us uncomfortable and angry and at the same time helpless

    • @ethanhunt937
      @ethanhunt937 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Agree 💯

    • @karnatheempire6789
      @karnatheempire6789 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      👍

    • @sudiptapatra2509
      @sudiptapatra2509 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Same with me.. it's an eye opening book...

    • @MB-it6bp
      @MB-it6bp หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I know its make your blood boil we feel you brother.

  • @MS-ov9sv
    @MS-ov9sv หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Anand Ranganathan and Aabhas Maldahiyar are great. But my respect for Rahul Shivshankar has increased a thousand times coming from this kind of relatives.

  • @ravikumarkb8103
    @ravikumarkb8103 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    How many Muslims became secular
    By secularising our education system

    • @pradyumnanayak9844
      @pradyumnanayak9844 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Our political leaders are duffers.

    • @pr-rb6jl
      @pr-rb6jl หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@pradyumnanayak9844 No... we were Duffers who were electing them till now

    • @user-hl1ni7hg2e
      @user-hl1ni7hg2e หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bro you literally brainwashed by these people, I'm Muslim and member of Tablighi Jam'at. and i have some Hindu friends too, there are non vegetarian as well as secular mindset. They don't care about religion. They use to follow Vedant Swami Vivekananda, Raja Rammohan Roy ( who had demolished Sati Dah Pratha with the help of British govt.) Sri Sri Ramakrishna Param hings. Even we Muslim also respect them. One of my Hindu friend converted to Islam after learning about Raja Rammohan Roy. He was monotheistic person.

    • @user-hl1ni7hg2e
      @user-hl1ni7hg2e หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@pr-rb6jlBro you literally brainwashed by these people, I'm Muslim and member of Tablighi Jam'at. You know noting about Islam. Islam doesnot need reformed because it was reformed by ours Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)and i have some Hindu friends too, there are non vegetarian as well as secular mindset. They don't care about religion. They use to follow Vedant Swami Vivekananda, Raja Rammohan Roy ( who had demolished Sati Dah Pratha with the help of British govt.) Sri Sri Ramakrishna Param hings. Even we Muslim also respect them. One of my Hindu friend converted to Islam after learning about Raja Rammohan Roy. He was monotheistic person.

    • @DavidDLalsa
      @DavidDLalsa หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@user-hl1ni7hg2eAnd your brain is not washed. It is fixated that others should accept your blanketed doctrine. Very subliminal.

  • @sudiptapatra2509
    @sudiptapatra2509 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    Dr Anand Ranganathan is a genius . Pranam to all of you..

    • @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg
      @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brilliant propagandist !

    • @drtagare
      @drtagare หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      When they speak the truth you will call it propaganda ​@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg

    • @srigirimaharaj1
      @srigirimaharaj1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg propaganda done by pervert'mahaMAD by creating brothel'god lol'ha 😂

    • @ayushbhardwaj255
      @ayushbhardwaj255 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If someone called your payagambar propognaist them you guys would literally start shouting sir tan se juda so stfu​@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg

  • @bakuljavadekar6767
    @bakuljavadekar6767 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I agree with Anand 99% of the times. But he is wrong about his criticism of the demolition of Babri structure. Had it not been demolished we would never have managed to find evidence of a vaishu temple underneath it. Sometimes what is morally correct is not what is legally correct.

    • @krsna302
      @krsna302 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well, there’s a saying that no one is totally correct, Anand is proving that point. Some times justice should take precedence over law. Laws are made by humans and justice is divine.

    • @junkscience6397
      @junkscience6397 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No one took the natural next step and asked him, "So you don't think that Modi or anyone should go partake of the fruits of that "illegal" act now, because the great fruits of the Ram Mandir were built on an "illegal" act without legal sanction?" -He wouldn't have agreed, he would have said, "Go ahead, Modi, everyone, go and enjoy the fruits" -Which would perfectly exposed his double-standards! *Doesn''t support the destruction but supports visiting the subsequent construction?! Talk about cognative dissonance!

  • @vandanachimanpure384
    @vandanachimanpure384 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    When you are a khan in India you get the guts to name your child taimur, not in any other country they will dare to do this kind of non sense.

    • @kp..1156
      @kp..1156 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I call it taimur the lame..तैमूर लंगड़ा खान

    • @himanshupathak1310
      @himanshupathak1310 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Kuch mat bolo, 'secularism' hai. In our country, 'secularism' means anti-Hinduism.

    • @TruthAlwaysWins
      @TruthAlwaysWins หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah nobody dares to name their child hitler.

    • @mahanbharatiyasabhyata3834
      @mahanbharatiyasabhyata3834 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TruthAlwaysWinsaap aap k beta ka naam rakhna babu bajrangi. Dekhna kya hota hai. Educated hindu hi aap ko sanse zyada gaali denge

    • @kulfibadaam7788
      @kulfibadaam7788 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Imagine calling your child Adolf or Hitler in Europe …

  • @neermalladoolum6506
    @neermalladoolum6506 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    The HINDUS Temples should have schools to teach us Hindus our culture, language and our history. 🙏🇮🇳🙏

  • @daulatlilani9615
    @daulatlilani9615 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I too an ardent reader of history books, Anand's also he's perfect in his assessment, I admire his views, but am old and blood doesn't boil in haste.
    I was 7 when we rolled our bags and left Sindh in1947, memories are still fresh because bleeding flesh never get errazed.
    I am keen observer of Bhatiya event. My father was Netaji's worker, government railway contactor, work's spaning from Dhaka to Afganistan and Assam.
    I in 1963 have puffed cigerettes with Nehru at Kalaikunda before dawn for day's, also met Sam Bahadur and PS Bhagàt PVSM at Calcutta.
    I am few of lucky Bhartiya who have seen life's turbulence and survival, my last wish is RETURNING TO PAST GLORY which in last 1½ Century was lost for whatever reason. Hope to witness it in this life . Please pray for my wish.🙏

  • @neeruganju
    @neeruganju หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Thank you Anand Ranganathan Ji for speaking for Kashmiri pandits/Hindus. I am a Kashmiri Pandit who has not gone to her homeland Kashmir for last 34 years. #kashmirfiles

  • @appu3376
    @appu3376 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Good discussion by Rahul Shivshankar, Anand Ranganathan and Aabhas Maldahiyar.

    • @Musaafir-ln6feet
      @Musaafir-ln6feet หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If you are a member please download this video and post it. I missed this event that day in Delhi. I really want to listen to it.

  • @desireejarrett2453
    @desireejarrett2453 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Absolute pleasure, listening to all 3 gentlemen. Thank you. Be well.

  • @viswanathanseshadri1047
    @viswanathanseshadri1047 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    The thing is the attitudes of the middle ages continue even today in that community.

    • @keithhunt5328
      @keithhunt5328 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are mentally stuck in 6th century.

  • @vlogvisionaries294
    @vlogvisionaries294 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    नूपुर जी के जीत की हम हृदय से शुभकामनायें देना चाहते हैं .
    जय हो विजय हो यही कामना है♥♥♥

  • @drpramodsshinde6577
    @drpramodsshinde6577 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Chhatrapati Shivaji founded Hindu empire in 1674ad. Maharani Tarabai , wife of 3 Rd Chhatrapati Rajaram with her Generals Killed Aurangzeb in 1707 at AurangBad. This ended Mughal rule Maratha Hindu empire ruled most of India leaving Hyderabad and Mysore ( Hindu ) till 1848. But Hindu Principalities at Gwalior,Indore,Dhar, Gujarat , Nagpur ,,Kolhapur,Tanjore( all Maratha ruled ) protected Hindus till 1947. Rajasthan’s four Major kingdoms and Mysore, Vijayanagaram were firmly embedded. History of these is never written in history text books.

    • @sonalis8471
      @sonalis8471 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I got to know now that Tarabai killed Aurangzeb. This is really sad that it's nowhere written in any of our history books. This is seriously sic

  • @thakorpatel6464
    @thakorpatel6464 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Thanks

    • @SangamTalks
      @SangamTalks  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @sumitnimawat7408
    @sumitnimawat7408 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Please discuss in Hindi so that your voice can reach rural india

    • @menakandy
      @menakandy หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      It needs to reach southern parts of India also where many are badly brainwashed....

    • @namantripathi.
      @namantripathi. หลายเดือนก่อน

      They don't need to listen to it

    • @FreddieMurphy746
      @FreddieMurphy746 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In South most don't understand Hindi...

    • @NadadurJanardhan
      @NadadurJanardhan หลายเดือนก่อน

      Should use AI translator

    • @MrRahul6464
      @MrRahul6464 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@menakandyदक्षिण में भी वो ही स्तिथि है अंग्रेजी की जो उत्तर में है।

  • @mallikarjunangadi4246
    @mallikarjunangadi4246 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Endless talents ..Anand and Rahul.

  • @kulfibadaam7788
    @kulfibadaam7788 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The most important message to the young students … YOU ARE THE ONES WHO WILL CARRY OUR FLAME IN THE FUTURE …

  • @chinnashekarabhandary8087
    @chinnashekarabhandary8087 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    One of the best videos , deserves to be seen extensively by all Hindus if not by all. Hope this is only the beginning of such developments. We are with you. God bless. Hope the Judges of our Country watch this video with neutral stand.

  • @neermalladoolum6506
    @neermalladoolum6506 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Look what happened to the Native American Indians. This is what is happening to Hindus now. 🙏🇮🇳🙏

  • @Jethalaal.Champaklaal.Gada.
    @Jethalaal.Champaklaal.Gada. หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Please run a awareness campaign about "Malabar gold & diamond" as well. It is a Kerala based company owned by a "vishesh samudaay". It earned Rs. 51,000 crores last year. And you all know what is happening in Kerala. Imagine how much of this amount is being used against our own people in Kerala. Most Hindus are not aware of this. If we buy anything from this comapny, it means we are funding our own enemies. Hindus should not buy jewellery from it. There are many local / branded Hindu jewellers, from whom we can buy our jewellery. Bhale hi thode extra paise le lega, Kam se Kam humaare logo ka Sar tan se Juda ya luv jeehad ko promote to nahi karega.

    • @aprilblossoms4
      @aprilblossoms4 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I have completely stopped purchasing from all these companies from Kerala including Joy and Jos Alukkas. Also any business that’s owned by Muslims does not get my money.

  • @DeshuSalian
    @DeshuSalian หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    To Anand R... Is modi to solve the problems of hindus.. what hindus are doing . Do hidus expect modi to say openly he is pro hindu or do all hindu things. Its the right time to Hindus to fight for their rights or against injustices. Tragedy is Hindus are mum

    • @kp..1156
      @kp..1156 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Exactly. As PM, Modi has some limitations..We Hindus have to fight for our rights. But Modi govt atleast should take some initiatives. 1st of all judiciary reforms are must as judiciary is blatantly biased towards Hindus. And 2nd Modi Govt can free our temples.

    • @DeshuSalian
      @DeshuSalian หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kp..1156 1. yes it will also be done, going on.. but it's a long battle. But in mean time religious institutions should fight against religious injustices.
      2. Freeing temples ..it's totally misuse of articles 25, 26 by the states by passing their own laws. For repealing of articles central government should be in absolute mejority, whic is not at present.
      Now it's Modi, but after him ? ..So Every hindu must make a habit of raising his voice against injustices in any way.. there should be public outcry..that empowers the Govt. to act upon..

    • @Bi-polar_Iz_Good
      @Bi-polar_Iz_Good หลายเดือนก่อน

      Problem is most hindus don't even know 10% of their religion. When u don't even know what ur religion is, what ur forefathers have gone thru for u to still be practicing ur faith or even being an atheist openly, they never will wake up.

  • @dipakonair
    @dipakonair หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    India always been an accommodative nation for all communities. So secular nation is detrimental for Hindus and it's a political weapon to isolate Muslims from main stream social system.

  • @capjack213
    @capjack213 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    44:45 " 1 billion hindus left the judgement in the hand of 5 people " and look how long did that take 500 years so if u want kashi back legally u need to wait another 500 years if u can wait leave the judgement to 5 people again...

  • @ajaysakalley7023
    @ajaysakalley7023 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Patience. Detoxing is a slow process. If anybody wants immediate change, he will have to resort to revolution, may be at the cost of lives. The choice is open to everyone.

  • @ExmuslimHafiz
    @ExmuslimHafiz หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    just wow

  • @gowthamanjaiganesh3210
    @gowthamanjaiganesh3210 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've never expected Rahul Shivshankar ji speaking so much facts for the first time. I am truly impressed to see his level and depth of knowledge take a bow. And Mr. Ranganathan sir please be patient great things take time.

  • @jihadifreewrold1374
    @jihadifreewrold1374 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    We should not ask secularism unti our culture and tradition is or will safe.... Right or otherwise?

  • @amardatta4471
    @amardatta4471 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is for Rahul S - Please start using "Sanatan Dharma" instead of "Hindu" - a misnomer used by invader/outsider. "Sanatan Dharma" - a set of righteous conducts an individual shall follow at different phases of his/her life. This set of conducts vary at different phases of life and his/her profession, like "Childhood Dharma", Dharma of Youth (Bhrmacharjha)" , "Ghreshtya/Sangsar Dharma", "Raj Dharma", etc.

  • @rk-py6sj
    @rk-py6sj หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    shocking😔😔

  • @jayanthikeshav8224
    @jayanthikeshav8224 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Excellent discussion with three intellectuals...loved listening to the same

  • @amenon581
    @amenon581 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An interesting piece by Tavleen Singh, The Indian Express 21.04.2024 :-
    Many things have changed in India since Narendra Modi first became prime minister. But one change that has gone almost unnoticed is that a process of real decolonisation has transpired. And because of this the old, colonised ruling class has been swept away. This is a very good thing. It should have happened long, long ago. As someone who belonged to that ruling class, I consider myself well qualified to explain why this process of decolonisation was overdue and how we failed India as its ruling class.
    The truth is we were an effete, hopeless bunch. We spoke no Indian language well, but this did not matter to us. We were proud of speaking English well. In our drawing rooms we sneered at those who dared enter without speaking good English. And at those whose table manners were not embellished with western refinement. In short, those who fumbled with forks and knives and preferred eating with their hands and without cutlery.
    When we travelled to foreign lands, we made a good pretense of being Indian, but we never cared to understand what it meant to be Indian. We pretended to know everything about India’s ancient culture and civilisation, but we knew almost nothing. In the schools and colleges we attended, we learned more about western civilisation, history, and literature than about our own, so it was not totally our fault.
    When it came to politics and elections, we stuck loyally by the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty and its various heirs because they were people like us. We did not care that Parliament had been turned into a private members club. It was our club. Nor did we care that the Congress Party under Sonia Gandhi’s stewardship had also become a private club. It was our club. In our drawing rooms we talked endlessly of democracy and secularism and saw ourselves as ordained to protect these ideas.
    Then along came Narendra Modi and the earth shifted beneath our feet. He may not have been personally responsible for everything that changed but he was a vital part of the political change that happened, and this somehow became an essential element of the bigger changes that were happening. Suddenly, almost overnight, after Modi first became prime minister, we became not just powerless but irrelevant. A new breed of Indians who spoke Hindi well and English not at all started replacing us in the high offices of government, as political analysts, and anchors in TV studios, in journalism, in Bollywood movies and TV series. They were not impressed with our skills in English, and we were so impressed by how Indian they were that we tried to emulate them just to belong. Some of us have succeeded, most of us have not.
    Those who have not but wish to continue being relevant cling these days to Rahul and Priyanka Gandhi and hope that somehow, they will be able to defeat Modi. Some act as advisors to the current heirs of the Dynasty and fill their heads with grandiose ideas like saving the Constitution and saving democracy. But the truth is that Rahul Gandhi’s main message remains the same as it was in the last general election. This is that Modi is corrupt and that he works only for a handful of rich Indians. He steals your money, he shrieks at his political rallies, and he gives it to his rich friends. How exactly does this work?
    As leader of the Congress Party, he is seen, especially by foreign correspondents, as the only man who can defeat Modi. It is bad luck for him that he seems so incapable of convincing Indian voters of this, despite trying hard to prove that he is one of them. He has worked with farmers in rice fields, transported coal on bicycles with miners, listened to the woes of vegetable sellers and spent long hours with mechanics in dingy shops to show how much he cares about the ‘common man.’ So why is the common man not impressed? Could it be because these gestures come across somehow as noblesse oblige and not genuine acts of sympathy?
    What is it about ‘autocratic’, ‘dictatorial’ Modi that attracts ordinary Indian voters more? The answer that I got to this question on my recent travels in rural India is that people have seen changes in their lives, and they believe that these changes have happened because of Modi. These are not remarkable changes. They are simple things like roads, drinking water, electricity, and Internet services but because they were not there before, they seem remarkable.
    Many of these things should have happened long ago. But because we were so colonised a ruling class, we did not notice that ordinary Indians were forced to endure the worst public services. In our drawing rooms and in our entitlement, we did not care about such things because in our privileged cocoon it would have been unthinkable to go to a government hospital or a government school. Modi’s advent burst the bubble in which we lived, and the truth is that most of us have no idea why this happened.
    We continue to hope that he will be defeated this time and hope that the message that democracy is in danger will resonate with voters. When the results come, we are likely to be disappointed again. I met nobody in rural India who saw Modi as corrupt and autocratic.
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  • @BillionaireAman
    @BillionaireAman หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Rahul, your intellect and ability to craft argument is commendable.

  • @manoharnathraina8490
    @manoharnathraina8490 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also thank you Rahul Shivshankar and Anand Ranganathan for your sacred work and a good heart for majority Indians.

  • @abhayadash9658
    @abhayadash9658 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sangam Talks always give discussions in substance.

  • @linkmedia5643
    @linkmedia5643 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love Anand ! Totally exposes the hypocrisy, just became his newest fan!👍👍👍👍. Totally true about the ancestors of Indian Muslims being victims of these invaders.

    • @linkmedia5643
      @linkmedia5643 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine a Hollywood star naming their kids Hitler, and Stalin.

  • @M-Pawar-ow9uu
    @M-Pawar-ow9uu หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is so sad and also awakening

  • @shitalsuresh6235
    @shitalsuresh6235 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If babri was not broken the same supreme court woul never have given it

  • @drpramodsshinde6577
    @drpramodsshinde6577 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    At least few young activist told the truth, though taking real actions will take time. It has to be movement of people.

  • @ganapatibhat2161
    @ganapatibhat2161 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ok; Dr. Ranganath, that, bringing down that monument of insult ( Babri structure) was not the way Hindus should have adopted was not acceptable. But imagine, had it not happened that way, that day, do you really believe that the day what Hindu society would have seen the pleasant movement witnessed on Jan 22! Any way, I am proud to be part of that action that day! and today breathing a pleasant air of satisfaction!

    • @TruthAlwaysWins
      @TruthAlwaysWins หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope
      Clear case of Gyanvapi mandir & Mathura Mandir

    • @TheNuclearPhysician
      @TheNuclearPhysician หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope. It shouldve happened the day afetr independence.
      Better late than never.

  • @manoharnathraina8490
    @manoharnathraina8490 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The most beautiful thing debated ever.
    Thank you #Sangam_Talks

  • @ushachikoti4530
    @ushachikoti4530 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You are so right I was told that Ashoka converted after Kalinga war after seeing all the deaths. So corrupted was our history to malign our religion. This is what happens if you have a Muslim as our education minister

    • @user-hl1ni7hg2e
      @user-hl1ni7hg2e หลายเดือนก่อน

      Congratulations , you are now brainwashed 🎉😂

    • @TheNuclearPhysician
      @TheNuclearPhysician หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@user-hl1ni7hg2e We read stuff from Irfan Habib and Moulana Azad.
      We're already brainwashed, unless proven otherwise.
      But thats school. And it can be deprogrammed if one's willing to let it go.

    • @Notsecular
      @Notsecular หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-hl1ni7hg2esame thing for you

    • @s4268s
      @s4268s หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@user-hl1ni7hg2eIf u have facts present it

  • @saratsaratchandran3085
    @saratsaratchandran3085 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Angkor-wat was originally built by a Hindu king that was changed to a Buddhist temple by his son and his own son who took to be a Hindu had changed the temple back as a Hindu temple. But his son who became a Buddhist changed back the temple to a Buddhist one. Today there is a four armed Vishnu idol standing in the courtyard with Shankhu, Chakra, Gada, Padma bearing a Buddha head placed on it!! So change in a temple from Hindu to Buddha and vice verse may not be due to invasion but conversion as with Ashoka and Chandra Gupta who took to Jainism!

  • @sapthasharma5074
    @sapthasharma5074 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Anand the world
    hindus, because hindus are law abiding.

  • @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg
    @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It is firm gradual change from tamil language and culture to hard sounding sanskrit intrusion !

  • @wiseowl2979
    @wiseowl2979 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Excellent discussion.

  • @saurabhsingh2806
    @saurabhsingh2806 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    सभी सनातन धर्म प्रेमियों को जिहादियों के त्यौहार ईद की हार्दिक (दुखकामनाएं) 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Bharat-Bhumi55
    @Bharat-Bhumi55 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So truly said by Rahul sir that they romanticised history for hindu-muslim bhai bhai but group reality and people collectively memory was and is different even today!!

  • @fnmfnm2896
    @fnmfnm2896 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Shashi tharoor had no understanding of Sanatan Dharma or religions. Hindu Pakistan is a damn good idea as argued by Sanjay Dixit.

  • @mohandaskizhakke300
    @mohandaskizhakke300 หลายเดือนก่อน

    .
    A great talk show. Loved every minute ❤️
    A feeling of depression sets in accompanied by raw anger towards the so called secularists, who are/were nothing but boot lickers of appeasement.
    Add to that is the raw deal from the courts.
    Double whammy.
    One real answer will be to declare those groups majority or minority as per population in each state, if not in each District.
    ...

  • @gvl46
    @gvl46 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We self-respecting Hindus should forever be grateful to the Vishnu Shankar Jain, in fact both father and the son! We should also be gratefu to Sai Deepak and various other soldiers of Hindu Dharma all over Bharat, many of them unsung!

  • @amenon581
    @amenon581 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    O.M.Mathai, private secretary to Nehru wrote 2 books...(an eye opener) a) Reminiscences of the Nehru Age (1978) and
    b) My Days with Nehru (1979).
    Where he has written (among other things), the feeling of entitlement the Gandhis have about India as though they inherited this country to do as they like.
    They had their shot for 60 yrs and what much is there to show?
    Unemployment, poverty and inflation has been there since independence and was at the highest till 2014.
    The percentage has come down drastically and they harp about it as though India was a garden of Eden till 2014

  • @bapu8984
    @bapu8984 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very thought provoking discussion ❤🎉😊

  • @angelbaybi997
    @angelbaybi997 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great guys...Rahul n Anand...n truthful

  • @perspective72
    @perspective72 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I don't think common people are worried about Modi coming back to power, people with vested interest only for ex: those who are part of religious conversion web. Converting people who are struggling financially /emotionally were the easy target. Maybe this Govt is going after those people and thier organizations. That is the reason peddling this Hindur rashtra scare and minority in danger narrative. Govts in the past showed the blind eye when things were happening. May be their funding comes from there too?

  • @robbinlittle
    @robbinlittle หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great sir, I missed this earlier , but this is not tiger by the tail... This is you holding a tiger by its ears.. great for those how would listen. Please hav these discussions in Hindi, Bhojpuri, Assamese, Nagameene....

  • @vikramm7818
    @vikramm7818 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wish I had all these videos as podcast

  • @swapnilzambare116
    @swapnilzambare116 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Super conversations

  • @santanachatterjee8132
    @santanachatterjee8132 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very good discussion. Where we will get the book

    • @bhishampratap
      @bhishampratap หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both books available on Amazon

  • @harshvardhanmourya6687
    @harshvardhanmourya6687 หลายเดือนก่อน

    जय हिन्द 🇮🇳🙏

  • @abhishukla6588
    @abhishukla6588 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    superb dibet...⚡

  • @umstrangeguy9581
    @umstrangeguy9581 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anand Ranganathan 🔥

  • @cokedupnormies2651
    @cokedupnormies2651 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    1:06:20 the statues at the temples were usually never attacked. See their sources. The statue was never attacked. Breaking the Church is not the same as breaking it to mock God or Jesus. But breaking a statue at a temple is destroying someone's faith.

  • @cokedupnormies2651
    @cokedupnormies2651 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    56:44 even in Maldives the Mosques are airlifted I have said this myself!

  • @gauricavmishra6490
    @gauricavmishra6490 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I often think that its more important to read the Quran first and The Hindu Epics later on. As they say, keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.

  • @karnatheempire6789
    @karnatheempire6789 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    🎉🎉

  • @cssuntherrao
    @cssuntherrao หลายเดือนก่อน

    This book release & discussion would have happened before pranprathishta of Ram temple in Ayodhya & video uploaded only 6 days ago.

  • @unbiasedreport
    @unbiasedreport หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If Modiji open any masjid every muslim voted for him, what happened to our Hindu

    • @Ancientdharmasanatan
      @Ancientdharmasanatan หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's because mazhab means everything for muslims and Dharma means nothing for some secular HINDUS.......That is the main reason my friend ......We have nothing to do with our civilisation unfortunately.. We are so ignorant regarding our Dharma ..

  • @venkateswararao7219
    @venkateswararao7219 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very meaningful and needful news who should come to know by all ❤🎉😢

  • @NareshKumar-rm6cw
    @NareshKumar-rm6cw หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good discussion

  • @ajitd5371
    @ajitd5371 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anand is very good debater.. he can make you believe anything he is debating for …… hence I value him as a debater only and not a thinker.. 😂…so keep asides every one, just believe in our PM Modi ji and rest assured that Our Bharat is doing well.. 🙏🏻🌹

  • @SaraswatiMSarasa-pn7ci
    @SaraswatiMSarasa-pn7ci 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes that is true sir 🙏

  • @aryanyuan9440
    @aryanyuan9440 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Guys this is not just to make you informative but to provoke and awake you from slumber. Don’t just limit yourself at praising people also your blood should boil out of anger and then it should further find its expression through your action in our society only then the change will come….. so start reacting to these discourse whenever or wherever you hear such discourse

  • @krishnakumarradhakrishnan4666
    @krishnakumarradhakrishnan4666 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent discussion

  • @erenyeager119
    @erenyeager119 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @AK-zs1gk
    @AK-zs1gk หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤

  • @deepakseth6256
    @deepakseth6256 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do not confuse Dharam with religion The best definition of that I have come across is that Dharam means the right COCDUCT. Like Raj Dharam the right conduct of the Ruler towards his subjects. Estree Dharam the right conduct of the lady towards her husband and family.So dharam has nothing to do with religion

  • @Ragameiste
    @Ragameiste หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anandji take care of your heart, you speak a lot from it.

  • @pradyumnanayak9844
    @pradyumnanayak9844 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👍

  • @ReyanSharma-co1ht
    @ReyanSharma-co1ht หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @bharatavarsha10k
    @bharatavarsha10k หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eye opening conversations!

  • @SaraswatiMSarasa-pn7ci
    @SaraswatiMSarasa-pn7ci 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ourgjab on that time sir 🎉

  • @bhagavanps2692
    @bhagavanps2692 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🎉👍🇮🇳

  • @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg
    @tsMuthuraman-hm6wg 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Like the psuedo histories of ramayana, maha bharatha etc.

  • @SaraswatiMSarasa-pn7ci
    @SaraswatiMSarasa-pn7ci 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Today Hampe Badme Hoysla on that time to going to seeing on that day sir 🙏

  • @venugopalakrishnavajja7952
    @venugopalakrishnavajja7952 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rahul jee it is news to me that you are related Romila Thapar , when I was preparing for civil services, used to read her book Ashoka. At that time we didn’t know about her left orientation.

  • @anandshethi8742
    @anandshethi8742 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🙏❤️🙏

  • @ganapatibhat2161
    @ganapatibhat2161 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The king used to say on climbing on the throne "NADANDYOSMI, NADANDYOSMI NADANDYOSMI" and then the Raja Guru tap on his head with " Dharma Danda" ( Sengole! ) saying "DHARMA DANDYOSI DHARMA DANDYOSI DHARMA DANDYOSI" !

  • @sudhayerbagker7395
    @sudhayerbagker7395 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @gvl46
    @gvl46 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The number of injustices done by the Congress under Nehru is colossal! It's really unbelievable that the injustices were not challenged by self-respecting Hindus! Nehru was not really a Hindu! And I think Hindus as a community were very passive!

  • @arijitbhattacharjee5908
    @arijitbhattacharjee5908 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome 👍

  • @BalaramaMangat
    @BalaramaMangat หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you.

  • @neermalladoolum6506
    @neermalladoolum6506 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Watch Mother India, how Nargis shoots his own Son Sunil Dutt. 😩😩

  • @neermalladoolum6506
    @neermalladoolum6506 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The Ghandhi's are not HINDUS.

    • @fullaranag
      @fullaranag 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Right

  • @R.kandaswamy
    @R.kandaswamy หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Government must rescind " Places of Worship Act".

  • @user-ghds4df
    @user-ghds4df หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *Our respected PM MODI JI said Islam means peace and none of 99 names of Allah stands for violence. The first two name Rehman and Rahim means compassionate and merciful*

    • @who-am-i69
      @who-am-i69 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      p.edophile M.uhammad ke bare me bhi bol de kuch