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Replacing a height level sensor or wishbone bracket (control arm) results allmost for sure in a missaligned suspension height. The height is normally reset by using a OBDII tool with config function - which nobody has. I show Vera and you in this Video how to get it done with tools everybody has in their basement - or maybe not? Enjoy the video. ,
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I love the comment - "with a lathe that everyone has in their basement" - I have no basement and no lathe. But I *do* love these videos, I am learning a lot - thank you.
We were living in a townhouse without a basement and no garage for 9 years too. I still remember this as a great time and we spend even more time traveling. Today we got to fix things around the the house and property all the time. There are pros and cons to everything. Thanks for your feedback.
Title of video should be German man re-engineers British D3 $120 height sensor in his basement with $2000 AUD German lathe :)
Very much enjoying your series of videos here in the US as I have learned a lot of things I did not know about my LR3. Love the energy of your wife's smile. You both make a great team!
Thanks for watching! We appreiate the feedback. Only 10% of our viewers are out of the States according to the TH-cam statistic.
Again another great video on discovery 3 your videos are probably the best ive seen on youtube please don:t stop
Wow, thank you!
This is really cool. Sometimes the simple things are very effective.
Great video , very informative , learning a lot about lr3 , I may buy one after seeing your experience
Thanks
Thanks. We appreciate the feedback.
I really enjoyed watching this video and what a lovely couple you both are. Great information and a big help. Thank You from the (UK)
Thanks. Christian
This might be one of my favorite episodes.
I actually just replaced the air compressor on my RRS, and the entire time I was cursing the LR engineers for putting it in such a stupid location. Now I know it was me who was stupid! Even though I just put it in, that compressor is moving next weekend!!
I love that you fabricated a part that allows you to modify the actual ride height, one which costs around $200.00 USD, and that you provided a quick and easy diagnostic for a bad air shock.
I am starting to think some of these auto manufacturers should go open source, you would be their best contributor!!
😃👍 when the compressor on my Disco 3 needs to be replaced, we already have a plan how we will do it differently. But first, Fabians car has to be done and gone. And we need to save up money for an ARB compressor. 🙋♀️Vera
she is always smiling! that's good brother
Mine is sitting 1/2 inch low on the front right corner. So I figured I could shorten the sensor arm a tad on that corner to make it think it's lower and raise it up a bit. Thanks for confirming this will work. I'm going to use a piece of all thread into the rubber ends to adjust it.
Awesome buddy thank you 🤙🏼
You're reinventing the wheel here. 😎
...that is what Germans do: making complicated things even more complicated.
Thanks for your feedback!
Amazing helpfull tip
I like your channel very much so keep up the good work! personally i use the SDD to play with my Disco ... regarding the compressor there is a small T pipe you can place into the original air suspension system to have air valve and all psi of the original air suspension compressor available on the go .. so practically there is no need to carry additional compressor with you . you can use the compartment in the to carry auxiliary battery. @ Christian - I don't have a lathe at home just "small" CNC i build myself :-) i like your approach and sens of humor very much
Hi guys 👋🏻 Your so happy about LR3s lol 😆 Vera is a diamond 💎 Most men would love a wife like Vera who take an interest in what your doing 😆😎🏴
😀👍 🙋♀️ Vera
Great video once again always informative. I can't believe landrover didn't add a hose connector to the air tank so you can air up your tyres. Maybe a future project for you 😉
Thanks 👍
Excellent video!
Where does the ignition have to be for you to adjust the height and whag botton do you press on the key?
I would like to raise just my front end by an inch is that possible?
Thanks
Wow, you have the skills! You would go nuts with the Autel ap200 phone based diagnostic tool. You could calibrate suspension, duplicate key fobs, set throttle adaptation and more!
I am going to have to look into that, thanks for recommending it. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
Thank you sir ..that was informative. Does it apply to LR4 too ?
07:08 I love how diplomatic Vera is at this moment -- she agrees she didn't know about it, but does not say she is impressed!
Hello Allen, that is how she is... Thanks!
Love the videos. So fun to watch. Really would like to have a discovery but we have a low emmission zone here in antwerp ( belgium ) :-(
Oh no! No Diesel at all or only 6d Temp?
@@Vera_and_Christian i believe euro 5 and above. I got a dacia sandero gasoline euro 6
One question. If you made a custom rrod wich seemed to me a bit bigger than the original, didn't it consequently change the hight of the car? Keep up the good videos.
Thank you a lot
Thanks a lot! I think sometimes when the "" Suspension Faut"" alarms occurs is due this misaligmen of the height sensor.
What do you think?
Note* I have a lathe in my home :)
I recently fitted a Llams height kit, very easy,
I need to check this out. Tahnks.
@@Vera_and_Christian I mainly got it as I got stuck in soft sand last year and the chassis was resting on the sand, a couple more inches(50mm) was all I needed. It so has an interesting level in between the normal height and the access height, sort of sports mode, sits down and corners better with less roll.. Fitted in 30 mins, plug in only
@@Vera_and_Christian also when you go off over landing again you might need a dual battery system. I research it and found this on a landrover forum here in Australia. www.traxide.com.au/diy-dual-battery-kits/land-rover-dbs-kits/discovery-3-dbs-kits/d3-bd.html
Christian, did you know that by using connecting rods with different length to the OEM you can easily lift the suspension what allows you to drive with more ground clearance even at higher speeds? You can actually even make them from pieces of rubber offcuts.
Hello Alex, I had to make this more complicated than required. I am German at the end of the day. Another viewer wrote, that he just hit the steel rod with a hammer to bend it 2 mm and it worked too. I want to stay with the original rims because I have 10 of them.
Good to hear from you!
I would like to add. Mine leaned a bit to the left after compressor replacement. Not much, about 10mm. I just tapped the metal rod on the control arm with a rubber hammer about a 2mm, and it levelled itself after that. Cheap calibration trick. Cheers
That sounds like a good fix. Just use a hammer. I love it. ...and people think the Discovery 3/4 is complicated.
@@Vera_and_Christian not at all complicated. Just use the seeds between the ears, hahaha! And yesterday had the driver seat making a weird ticking noise and struggeling to move, just removed fuse 46, left it overnight, and viola, fixed! Just like a cellphone.
Proudly own discovery 3 2.7 trd in Sydney
You got to be about the furthest away from us here in Germany of all our viewers. Thanks for watching our video and greetings over to Australia.
Please give us content for your freelander as well. I enjoy your videos alot.
Coming soon! We got footage of an overall face lift. Hope it will turn out funny.
@@Vera_and_Christian
Awesome.
Waiting for it.
great mod👌👌
Hi Christian, if you are on the road or off the road and one of this arms, or connectors, or sensor has a troubble, it´s possible rise the vehicle to normal high, take the fuse out and continue traveling? Thank for all you and Vera shows us!!
Hello Alexis, wow, great tip. Did not think of this before... Thanks!
what buttons do you press on the fob please
That’s a good idea for your next video: clean the engine properly (making leaks are easier to see), without damaging anything delicate like electronics.
Good idea! I make a ChisFix style video and wear blue gloves.
Great vid u can buy extended one to fit to trick the computer that standard hight is higher for bigger tyres ;-)
Good tip!
I’ve seen so many Disco 3’s leaning on the motorway!
Is this your dog in the picture? What is it?
Really?
The car will level itself when you first start it up, if it happens to do that on uneven ground it will appear wrong when you drive onto level ground, until it does another re-level. Yes, its not an ideal situation.
Hey Christian, you would love LLAMS, check it out and Graham is great at support. Image a 2” (50.8 mm for us metric buffs 😆) lift at your finger tips and for the autobahn dropping the ride height 20 mm. All from the drivers seat. Cheap lift for about €350.
Also forgot to add , on the RHD we have the empty spare battery tray on our drivers side , same design as what u have just mirror image , the T max tyre compressor is very good , also heard the turbo is hardest to change with the LHD because u have the steering rack in the way , myth that u can’t change the rear belt ( belt can be changed in less than an hour ) and turbo with the body on but u can, plse keep the videos coming
Thanks for the feedback. I don´t really want to find out how hard it is to change the turbo. But if I have to, I will and post a video about it... and use axle stands, I promise.
Christian Muth , hope it doesn’t come across as disrespectful in any way , great videos , just made me feel so nervous with u under the disco , thks again for the great videos and indeed hope u never have to change a turbo
Does the shorter rod after adjustment lower the suspension or raise the suspension? I'm making one without using my lathe in the basement.
Longer will raise I think. This was long ago. Christian
Hi Chris and Vera. I'm having some trouble with height calibration. Rear left corner is up about 1.5 cm, 50cm aprox and can't fix it with Gap Id tool. O level and all corners stay at suggested height but after a ride rear left is up again. What do you think it might be?
Compare height sensors readout with the GAP to see if RL is plausible. Christian
Another consideration: it is possible for these Discoverys and Range Rover Sports to be level but all the work is being done by 2 diagonally opposite air struts, IF, the height calibration is not correct.
The problem with operating with that condition is that the car will never ride as well as it could, the handling will be erratic and unpredictable on bumpy roads and corners, the air compressor will run excessively as it's always trying to level the car, excessive wear on the main load-bearing strut upper and lower suspension bushes, excessive wear on the 2 tyres. Yes, I experienced all of those because someone ( I bought the car secondhand) who didnt have a clue had been fiddling with the calibration settings.
A big part of my career has been to calibrate actuators in industrial applications, and in my case I reset to factory 'mechanical zero' settings and it was fine.
Das is good, yah!
How did you get the suspension to work without the engine running? Also how to make a key raise and lower the susp.? Thank you!
😅👍First you are going to have to watch this video th-cam.com/video/cQ0zStW7tW8/w-d-xo.html 🙋♀️ Vera
How many brake lights bulbs 💡 have you had to change on your car so far I have had three of them all a total pain in the arse blowing bulbs. I went and bought the vogue instead and touching wood no issues yet
I guess we got lucky so far. No serious bulb problems on ours.
LR TIME they’re probably built better for left hand drive spec
I think they are truly one of the best if not the best off road vehicles I have owned over fifty of them my latest one is for my woman freelander 3 and it’s as good as my vogue on and off the road to be honest it’s great road holding on public road is amazing and the brakes are really great 👍. It’s great value for what you get and I have put it through serious off road work in dartmore and exmore uk and have not managed to get it stuck yet and I have tried too. I’m really in love with my new vogue and always have got the cars year old so not to lose so much cash at the start. Hope that you get to show other people different models on your channel as you both seem to have good positive feedback
I've never heard of this modification, what causes the suspension to become uneven?
We replaced the front and rear wishbone brackets 👍🙋♀️ Vera
Why can't you use this trick to set fromt/rear height?
Why don't you use the GAP tool....? Just curious.
We did not own our GAP tool back than. This video is from the beginning.🙋♀️
You only use 1 arm per axle? The other side is standard..correct
Yes, only one per axle. Christian
HELLO CHRISTIAN AND VERA
I AM LUIS FROM PERU.
I HAVE A 2008 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 3, GASOLINE.
I HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE SUSPENSION.
INITIALLY THE AMBER LIGHT ON THE DASHBOARD WENT ON, THEN IT TURNED THE CAR OFF AND IT WAS SOLVED, I HAD IT SCANNED AND IT RESULTED THAT THERE WERE PROBLEMS WITH THE HEIGHT SENSOR.
FOLLOWING ONE OF YOUR VIDEOS, I HAVE MADE SOME REPLACEMENTS IN THE 04 HEIGHT SENSORS AND I HAVE GIVEN MAINTENANCE TO THE REAR AND FRONT VALVES, AS WELL AS THE MAIN VALVE THAT IS NEXT TO THE COMPRESSOR, ALSO REPLACED ALL OF THEM.
I HAVE REASSEMBLED EVERYTHING AGAIN AND NOW A RED LIGHT FROM THE SUSPENSION COMES ON THE BOARD. AND THE CARRIAGE DOES NOT RISE.
I AM VERY SURE THAT I HAVE CORRECTLY REPLACED ALL THE SPARE PARTS AND ALSO THAT THERE IS NO LEAK IN THE COMPONENTS.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE RED LIGHT SHOULD BE ON AND THAT THE SUSPENSION DOES NOT WORK.
WILL IT BE BECAUSE I HAVE TO "RESET" THE RED WARNING FIRST AND THEN TRY AGAIN ???
YOUR HELP PLEASE.
THANK YOU
Hello Luis, greetings to Peru. This is not easy. Because the light went from yellow (resettable with ignition) to red (non resettable with ignition). I think it is a wiring issue rather than a component issue. You may have fixed the broken component and by touching the wires, you accidentally caused an already poor connection to break.
I think you need to get a diagnostic tool with reset function. Like a Icarsoft I930 or better. It is only 120 US$ and cheaper then most spares.
Then you could read the faults you are getting now and reset them (after writing them down) . If it is a wiring issue, you would need to check the trouble areas of the Discovery 3: Is there corrosion going on in Peru or are you in the high deserts (we are jealous anyhow) ? Do you have a sunroof and then a wet floor on the driver side? Wiring harness above the air compressor frame worn through? Connectors under the front left wheel arch and so on. So I think the diagnostic tool is the next step. I know it is a lot of money but it is better than taking it to a expensive LR dealer.
Christian from LR Time
Here is a link to a Amazon add for the I930 which I have myself:
amzn.to/3qARF66
@@Vera_and_Christian Hello,
Thanks for your prompt response.
I tell you that I am in an area of Peru where the climate is dry, there is no rain.
The lower parts of my LR are very well preserved, free of corrosion, and the connectors are also clean (relatively clean, only with some dust).
Initially there was only the amber signal and the scan only came out the height sensor, but I decided to make more changes at once.
I removed the compressor, cleaned it, removed the air valves and replaced the toroidal seals.
And while doing this, I decided one day to turn on my LR without these components still installed (I did it because it had been almost 15 days without turning it on), and when I turned it on, the light that appeared in amber turned red.
It is possible that having done this (having turned it on without having placed the components yet) has made the computer recognize a major fault and for that reason, now that I have already placed all the components the red light does not disappear and therefore it is necessary scan and diagnose with reset function ??
Thanks for your help.
Luis.
@@luisnicho7870 yes, I think it is possible that this is just a logged fault. Do a hard reset and see if it clears the fault. Google hard reset Discovery 3 and look at Disco3.Co.UK. You will find it. I never had to do a reset because I use the scan tool to do it. Hope it works for you.
would you recomend buying an LR3 TDV6 SE manual ?
Absolutely. Mine is a 2006 SE manual. Especially if it doesn't have a DPF. But, everything else we preach applies to any Discovery 3. 😅👍🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christianthank you, I have found a 2008 with aprox. 200k km variant owned by the British diplomatic counsel with 8300€ price .I'm gonna see it today. I'm thinking it surely must be well maintained by its compatriots :)
@@mikest2851 But remember, you know what we think about "Land Rover maintained". At least I hope you do. Have a look at this video. th-cam.com/video/bSdo48uB438/w-d-xo.html also watch this video th-cam.com/video/fy_0ym793-8/w-d-xo.html and that video th-cam.com/video/chsGDZ3pZUY/w-d-xo.html They are, most likely, selling it because it gets now too extensive and expensive to maintain at the dealership. It has the typical "selling kilometers". Please take a obdii reader with you and read out all the faults. 🙋♀Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Thank you :) I will be vigilent
@@Vera_and_Christian I just saw it :) , car has two issues : low coolant engine eror , which the owner said is only the sensor faulty, the actual level is full and he chose not to change the entire coolant box . And another issue is with left front wheel bearings( I think) , I heard rattling there when crossing over bumbs( this might be expensive) I need to check it under.. at an authorised service I think .. otherwise the car pulls and feels great ..the exterior looks without scratches and no oil leaks on a first glance....might be a good buy
Where can you buy just the rods and not the whole sensors?
Check out advancedfactors website. They have all parts listed with pictograms, so you can see if your part is available. 🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Thank you Vera!!
So when would I need to do this adjustment?
Only if your ride height is a bit off from side to side. So only if the car had a major suspension repair.
Noted. Thank you Christian.
I think you could start a small business making the link rods
...and sell them for 1000$ a pair because it is for a Land Rover... It must be expensive of course.
Christian Muth 😂😂😂 at least 100€
I don't have a basement, so that explains why I don't have a Lathe maybe my next house will have one😃
When we were looking for houses, starting almost 15 years ago, workshop/garage space was the main buying criteria. 😅👍🙋♀️ Vera
You can program your key easily to raise and lower the car using just the Land Rover button (without the hazards on) 👍
Please share! We would like to know......
It would be a much better to get a IID tool and calibrate it correctly
Plus 1, made me feel very nervous seeing Christian get under the disco without axle stands, also have a gap iid and indeed extremely easy to set it all up using that tool
Well, I know. But I am very cheap when it comes to parts... Also, who would watch a programing-tool video... Please excuse my doing.
Christian Muth , that’s ok, we forgive u and can come off the naughty step now , lol
I think this is ingenious. I like the do it yourself attitude. Brilliant👍🏻
Not everyone has a basement never mind a lathe. Good to know though
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True. A lathe in the living room is not everybodys first choice.
Wow she has to stretch her arm to roll down the window.
If you leave a door open it will lock its height so wont come down on your hand
Good point. Thanks. Christian
Hi, know ur not daft , but plse, plse use axle stands , really made me cringe seeing u under the disco , must admit would use a gap iid to set the suspension up , bit of info if it helps , at normal height , rears 485mm fronts 465mm , hope that helps
Yes, I will use axle stands next time. I did not know the standard dims. Very usefull thanks.
Christian Muth , hi, that’s great ref axle stands and bet ur pull my leg on ur next video , “ see gary I’m using them , lol , looking forward to the next video and very informative , ur so welcome and pleased the dimensions helped , always nice being able to help each other looking after these motors , stay safe and well on ur travels
Land Rovers don't have hoods 🤦♂️😉
In my world, they have. 😅👍🙋♀️Vera
This is not how you level the suspension !!
Ok. Well, got to start somewhere.
@@Vera_and_Christian that is true👍. By the GAP iid tool for your car. Than you can fix everything, and the correct way. By doing it your way is asking for suspension problems. Suc6
Thanks a lot! I think sometimes when the "" Suspension Faut"" alarms occurs is due this misaligmen of the height sensor.
What do you think?
Note* I have a lathe in my home :)
If the fault resets when you restart the vehicle, it is most likely a secondarry fault caused by an other system. If the fault stays on then it may be a problem with the suspension itself. You need a OBDII tool like the Icarsoft I930.