@@nickeooo I honestly don't really know. I had the car serviced at the LR garage from 100k km to 200k km, because I had an engine insurance than was pretty strict, after 200k km til now, 248k km I have serviced it my self. I fix everything my self except for "deep" engine work, and gearbox flush. If I were to guess, roughly, I think it's somewhere around 150k NOK, 13k £, all the parts, servicing, flushing, tires, alignments and so on. Devide that on 10 years and down to 15k NOK 1300£ a year. Bare in mind that I have done things before they fail, like flushing the gearbox, changing out the oil and water pump, timing belts and so on. If I where to use the garage for everything I couldn't have afforded to own the car, nor any other car. 13000£ a year is what you would expect for owning any post 2005 car in Norway. One service on a regular Subaru outback would be 800-1500£ each year, + eventual parts and tire needs. I hope this answer some of your question. :) If I were living in the UK the sum would be much lower due to the extreme prices here in Norway. I do order parts from the UK as it usually 1/10 of the price as from the LR Dealer here. Best, Simon.
@@LandRoverDrive Takk for svar😊 Jeg har veldig lust på en, men hører så mye forskjellig om kvaliteten på dem🤷♂️ Skrur selv så det hjelper👍 Hørt at 3 ern er den beste? Hva mener du om det?Bor og i norge😊
I've had my 2006 LR3 4.4 liter for 4.5 years. I bought it with 100k miles and the mileage now is 168k. It has never broken down, in fact, it has never had a check engine light on. It is used as a daily driver and an overland vehicle that sees serious off roading in the U.S. Still in love with it.
Yeah, it's a different kind of love with these cars. I would love to have that 4.4V8 in mine as from what I have learned it's a rock solid engine. A bit on the thirsty side but worth it in the long run with the expensive diesel repairs. Really good to hear it's more like me out there, thanks for sharing. Simon
I have had my 4.4 for 2 years. I also have never had any break down except for little power steering fluid leakage due to the worn out seal shortly after buying. Solid like a rock.
I have my 2005 HSE 8 years now, remarkably similar experience, 390,000km up on it now and still going strong. Great content as usual. Respect to you for all the jobs you have tackled yourself.
390k km is amazing, min is just half that. I find it odly satisfying to fixing stuff my self as long as I have the time and don't have to stress about it. I'm glad you liked the video and I wish you the best with yours in the next 100k km. :)
My Dad has a had a discovery 4 commercial sdv6 from new in 2011, its done 170,000 miles, regularly tows at full capacity, some light off road use and us his daily commuter. Besides the usual consumable parts (service and brakes etc) its only wanted for 1 injector and an oil pump seal 500 miles ago. Besides that it went in for the recall for the uprated inlet manifolds. Absolute beast of a car. Worth getting a full gearbox flush at 100,000 miles though.
Nice to hear some good stories as well on here. 👍🙂 And yeah, that gear box flush is smart. Will be doing another on in a couple of years. Next year will be belt changes. 😅
I have a range rover and a Lexus. In 9 years of owning my Lexus, it has NEVER been in the shop. The range rover has been mostly in the shop for the past year (total ownership time). no joke.
for a vehicle that has gone past the 200k km mark, the list is justifiable. The advice to repair the car yourself whenever you can is a brilliant one. I love the discovery, eyeing the LR4.
Totally agree that it's justifiable! Every car will cost you to keep it reliable. The LR4 really looks the part, I wouldn't mind one my self but now I have to see how far I can go with my D3. 👍🙂
Glad I could help. 😂😂😂 It's good to do some research before embarking on a Land Rover journey. 👍🙂 But loads of cars out there so happy hunting. 🤙 Simon
Great video! thanks so much for taking the effort and time to explain in the best way you could. I am also in love with my LR3, so I fully understand the loyalty. In short, I just don't like Japanese 4x4's. No matter how much the LR3 costs to repair, it's still worth hanging onto. All the best to you up there in Norway!
Hey Simon Nice review! I own exactly the same car same year but a manual gearbox. Like you I love the car. Mine has done 300000km now without big problems so just good maintenance. So yours must be ready for the next 100000 ! Enjoy!! Greeting from Holland.
Thank you for the info glad to hear it's working out for you. It is always great to hear from others that has driven more than me. Gives me the confidence to put more money into the car in form of maintenance and soon modifications. I would have liked to have tested a manual one. The auto having it's pros and cons in the off-road area and sometimes I miss that real gear locking of a manual gearbox. Thanks again, Simon. 🙂
I just bought my first Land Rover, a 2007 LR3 (Discovery 3) 4.4 V8 for $1200 (about 13000 Kroner). It has a little over 200000 km on the clock and despite the neglect (and the smell, previous owner was a heavy smoker lol), the engine cranked right up and even the suspension is still working. I’m looking forward to cleaning it up, getting the maintenance caught up and enjoying it thoroughly.
That's awesome @brianm.6271 👍 A 4.4 V( for 13000kr, would be a real steal if it were in Norway. I think you would be looking at 150 000kr here if there were one for sale. Nothing for sale with a V8 on the open market. Best way to start I think, cheap buy and then get on top of the basic stuff first, good on you. Be sure to keep us updated on the progress. Best, Simon.
@LandRoverDrive Thanks Simon. I was lucky enough to visit Norway a few years ago. I got distracted by all the cars we aren't lucky enough to see in the US. The one that grabbed my attention the most was a Skoda Yeti. 😅 Here's a question for you. With the environmental regulations in Norway, is there incentive to keep older vehicles on the road?
Good work Simon. I hope viewers understand the weather and road conditions in Norway and their effect on ANY and ALL cars. I see already that you got a ‘buy a Land Cruiser’ response. LC owners of comparable cars rarely provide lists of faults like you have and it’s not because they don’t have them, it’s because they want to preserve their myth of LC reliability. Thank you for being honest with your service history. You are now a fully fledged Land Rover mechanic! Keep the wheels turning. 👍🏻🙏🏽😷🦘
Hehe, yeah it’s 90% wet days and the salty winter roads. Takes it toll on the the cars. I think all cars has their weaknesses and strengths and I’m not here to start a brand debate. 😊 I say we are all car guys and it’s just random which brand we land on as our favorite. One of my reasons is the exploring history of the LR brand, it’s really something special. 👍 I’m always honest and will keep it that way always. Nothing glorious here, just a guy who loves his cars and overlanding. Thank you Grahame for your support, really appreciate it. 👍😊 Simon.
I've alwyas wanted a Land Rover Discovery. However, I was alwasy put off by the reliability. In the UK a friend had a 3 and a 4 and is ahuge fan, but I did get to see all the parts that needed replacing. I bought a Mercerdes ML and my repairs over the same period were half those of the Discovery. Of course, I don't have elecric parking or air suspension to go wrong. I may still buy a Discovery 4, maybe.
This is the best thing said , people forget these types of vehicles in certain places are not just on smooth tarmac , also with a vehicle like LR you have the complex of the air suspension and the other technical parts that other cars don’t have that is an extra thing to go wrong . The LR is a great vehicle to be in , I have a evoque ( yes a baby RR) and it as the best seats I have ever sat in. I have owned German cars that do still break down , a Merc were the time of chain stretched that could of damaged the engine I was lucky it just skipped a tooth, and by the way it only had 30,000 miles on the clock, the same car the handbrake cable broke a few months from new and bad design the speaker would be smashed by closing the door on the seat belt, broken coil springs. Also had a bmw were I had a problem with the electronic engine oil indicator showed well over the max oil , then a air pressure sensor and then a clutch replacement and only did 26,000 miles and yes driving for years and never had to replace a clutch , so yes other cars still have problems.
Thank you Simon for sharing your love for the LR3 and those gorgeous shots of the Norwegian countryside. We bought a 1988 G-Wagon in Norway last year, have been restoring it ever since and are dying to get back up there once it can drive under its own power.
Hey and thank you for watching. G-Wagon is really cool. Have driven the old ones, nut sure about the year. The general purpose vehicle for the norwegian army. Great off-road with the locking diffs and so much fun. A bit low on power those but still fun. Borders are opening up so it's getting time to test it out. I hope you get your chance to drive it here cause it's definitely something special about overlanding in a old 4x4 in the mountains of Norway. 🙂
Very good and honest 7 year review! Wish more people did this on their vehicles. I also had a D3 earlier on, but i think i had half of ALL your problems during 1,5 yrs. Got sick and tired of all the problems, so I sold it! ;D But as with any other brand, things happens of course! I now have a D2, and absolute love it. See you on the Norwegian countryroad maybe! (",) Thanks for the vid!
Thank you! Yeah, it would be helpfull to have a full database with these kind of videos. There is always something with all cars but if you are unlucky there can be more than one would like. Why I sold my Defender, I did not have enough time and money to keep two LR's up to speed. D2 is great and I was thinking of getting one before I got my D3. 🙂 I hope to be a lot out on the Norwegian country roads this fall so there is definitely a chance for that. Thanks for sharing. 👍 Simon
I have a bought new 2007 RR Sport 2.7 TDV6 down here in Australia. Most of the things you mention I've done too. Great to see you kept track. I didn't. Thanks for sharing.
Hey and congrats on the RR sport! I try to keep track and this list should be pretty complete. Will do an update next year as I pass 10 years of ownership. 👍😊 Any plans for the RR sport? They look really cool with some proper tires. 👌
I have had very similar 'faults/wear' on my Subaru Forester. plus rust on the underside of the car, in just over two years of ownership, the car is now 10 years old! So it's not limited to LR products, plus I had a garage do all the work! CRY!!!!!!!!! I
Hehe, sorry to hear that. I hate rust, on of the worst thing in a car guys life. 🙂🙂 Forester is a great car, Subaru really makes a great 4x4 system. I had a 2005 WRX back in the days. 👍🙂
Great review Simon, I just wish I had the skills and knowledge you have. I've managed to restore jammed sunroof mechanism on my 2005 HSR though. 370K km on clock right now and I can say the V6 is going strong after all those years. When I manage to complete the trunk overland conversion with bunks, electrics and stuff, I'm off to the trip to Norway. Cheers from Slovenia.
370K km, that is awesome. So nice to hear from others that has a D3 that has gone way beyond what I have driven. I'm also starting my build this year and hopefully I can get some of it done before winter hits. Wish you the best of luck with your build and your trip to Norway. Simon.
I have 2012 LR4, I use this car in the harsh hot summer in DUBAI I bout it new, now over 200,000 km. in the last 9 years other than the regular Scheduled maintenance , However I have the following failures: front air suspension replaced with sincere , water pomp replaced twice , radiator pipes in the back of the engine replaced, back gate electric door James and repair. Thats it. no gear flush no dif. oil flush or change now it runes like new and i love it. Thanks Simon
Sound like you have got one of the good ones. The Petrol engine is definitely the way to go to keep the expences down over time. The diesel engine has some really expensive components that could fail. It is fun to hear from owners that has had the car from new, really the best ones to say how the car has been. I guess there is not too much rust down there in that climate? Thanks for watching Fareed! Best, Simon
Awesome vehicle and great update. A fair bit of the maintenance you have completed would be normal for any vehicle used in harsh environments, but a few Disco specific items too! You may do this, but just suggesting a brake fluid flush every 2nd year would extend life of callipers and other hydraulic components.
Hey and thank you so much. I have been thinking about a brake fluid flush because I don't know when it was last done. I have bleed out the system 3-5 times in the period of 7 years so it have been "refreshed" a bit. But this is really something many forget about, me as well, because if it works, it works. Don't know a easy way to do it as I don't have pressure pump but maybe get a garage to do it for me. Maybe not too expensive.
@@LandRoverDrive easiest way is just to pump the brake pedal while opening the caliper bleeding screw. One corner at the time. But recuires two people. :)
My Patrol Y61 dates from 1999 and had a couple of though periods in the Icelandic interior. Never failed. A couple of years ago I met two Aussies with an Y60, they travelled throughout the American continent and wanted to go through Africa, no problems. When the glowing plugs failed they warmed them up with boiling water. This, together with Toyota is reliability.
I would not argue with anything of what you have just said. Patrol, would never go against that offroad, beast of a car. And you can't argue with the reliability of a Toyota, even though they got their own issues too. 😁
Thanks! Yeah, I like fixing stuff for sure. A great feeling when something is broken and you can fix it your self. I also feel that it's part of being a overlander or a off-roader, as you get to know your vehicle and will be able to fix it on the tracks your self. Or more likely to. 🙂
I missed handbrake module change and instead left front wheel bearing I chnaged the right :D All other and some more I have changed when driving from 180000km to 490000km. Worst thing was rotten sides under the plastic trims at front of rear wheels. In future I will remove ALL plastic trims every second year and wash & rust protect all areas.
Thanks for the in-depth review and shared experience...i had been wanting to hear from other D3 owners who have had the car for extended period to hear their experiences and with the handling of the car and am glad you have pretty much summed up what i was curious about. i own a D3 as well, second hand am begging to feel the pitch of the repairs ; its past three years now and have had to deal with air suspension and steering rack and other items ...
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. There are a few bits that can go wrong but feel that is for every vehicle I have own. I haven’t have a issue with the steering rack yet, how did you know it had failed?
Thanks Inky, I think we have the same views in general when it comes to Land Rovers. We look at them in a real and open minded way and not in black or white way / love or hate way. 😊 I remember watching your Defender video where I was agreeing and nodding along the complete film. 👍 The D3 is and amazing car in so many ways, with it's charm-like failure points, but we know of them and can threat them, and so it will drive on flawlessly for so many miles. 👍 Passed 9 years of ownership this spring and it's still running great. 😅 I think rust will be it doom with all the road salt we see here in Norway. Best, Simon.
I’m looking at a D4, good honest review and nothing really unexpected from my research. I already own an ex Australian Army Perentie so the next logical step is a Discovery. Thanks Paul.🇦🇺
Perenties are really cool. Seen only 2 or 3 up here in Norway. Thanks for the feedback and if you go for a D4 check out some post about it on disco forums. I think I read that the 2013 model is the best model of them. I don’t know the D4 as well as the D3, but think there is a On my way! Engine issues happening more often with ore 2013 models.
My discovery 3 tdv6 2008 has been kind to me it’s the Basic model with manual transmission “less to go wrong”and still going strong and yeah I do all my own work on it keeping my fingers crossed 🤞🇬🇧
After owning the car for a while, I think the basic version, with cruise control, maybe SE not S, with no sunroof, a manual gearbox and the rear locker is the perfect combo to get. We drive for so long that I love having that cruise control. 🙂🙂 Wish you the best of luck with your Disco, we all need it. Simon
Excellent video.very informative. I'm 3 yrs into owning my 2007 tdv6 hse.170,000 miles.repair bill is £1500 and climbing. But love my D3. So practical.
Thank you. Yeah, the bill is climbing here as well but hopefully it won't be to bad for the upcoming years. One gearbox flush in Norway is about 1500. Why I need to do most of the work my self. 😅
What a genuine nice guy. Spot on review & very similar replacement of parts as my Discovery 3. I have the V8 with rear lockers & owned for nearly 9 years now & like yourself absolutely love these machines. Looking at the terrain you guys have there it is very similar to my home land Wales. Great for testing these machines out. Good luck, I hope your Discovery lasts many more years of loyal service for you.
Thank you so much! Will take that to my heart. I try to make this a channel a good and positive place for everyone. Keeping the stresss levels down and enjoying sharing the love of cars, overland and camping with others. I heard great things about the scenery in Wales and lastly from my mother just a week ago, she really wants to go there for a visit. I hope to come over at some point and go overlanding but not sure exacly when or where yet. I'm really jealous of that V8 and rear locker, would have been nice to have, not that I'm driving to hard off road but you can take it a bit slower over the rough parts with that locker. I wish you also the best of luck with your LR3 and hope you can go on many great trips! 👍🙂
@@LandRoverDrive well if you ever need any help from the other side just drop me a message & I would gladly help & direct with your possible visit. As for overland in Wales there is plenty to choose from. One being a place called Strata Florida Wales. Check it out on you tube. Also look up a the Brecon Beacons. Happy new year to you & your family.
A great video! I've got the LR4 and heading to 200K mark now. Here in South Africa, we don't have the corrosion issues you have! I've travelled to Botswana a few times, and the Disco handles dust magnificently! However, the corrugations that build upon dirt roads have rattled the electronics a bit - the wire looms especially (friction ware).
Hie Stanford, what has your experience with your LR4 been? Looking to get one as a family car (Based in JHB). Been eyeing some V8s with comparatively low mileage (sub 150k).
@@tendailuwo6718 Hey Tendai. I've got the 3l diesel S3 - entry-level. Have got a warning light with the air compressor for raising the suspension for 4x4 mode. However, the compressor works fine so I ignore it! It's a magic 'family' car! Nice and safe when you are eye-balling a taxi ;-) I love mine.
Thank you Stanford! The LR4 is great, it really looks the part for a Discovery. I have seen some videos from South Africa and just wow, the overland possibilities down there looks amazing. I can only imagine the corrugations, we only get a small bit on our dirt roads here so the electronic friction ware haven't been a problem, so far. 😅 I know there is one know broken wire in the passenger footwell but can't think of what the fault was on the spot. Thanks again and thank you for sharing. Best, Simon.
This excellent summary (along with various others on YT about these cars) confirms that if you want to keep one of these types of LR vehicles over big mileages, you *HAVE* to do most of your own maintenance and repairs otherwise it is not an economically attractive proposition at all. They obviously still hold a huge amount of appeal for many drivers due to their enduring off-road abilities, comfort and practicality. You just need to be realistic about the logisitics of looking after it.
Thank you so much and yeah, there are a bunch of videos out there but I haven't seen one like this so that's why I made it like I did. I'm sharing my experiences as I go along. And so true what you say, it's not for everyone but it's really a great car if you can handle the maintainance your self. Don't forget the 3.5 ton towing capability, a big factor for many who can use them as work horses too. 👍🙂 It's really a great all round car.
@@LandRoverDrive I use mine mainly for my big trailer as I say my wife uses it every day for work. She has the annoying habit of not putting any fuel in so I’ve had to change the fuel filter more than I should have to. She says ‘ a fill up with fuel is the same as a new pair of shoes, no contest’, I rest my case!
@@stuartbroadhurst7523 Hehehe, shoes vs fuel, strange how we can be so different. One tanke of fuel is a whole lot of km with freedom to go anywhere. 🏔🚗 My wife drive the Nissan Leaf so I can only blame my self if the car dosen't have any fuel in it. 😊
Love the video, never touched anything on my Toyota Sienna until 180,000 miles (that’s around 300,000km) other than oil change. The first thing that went was one of the wheel hub bearings. That car was a work house. That was the second Toyota I owned. Then I sold the car and now I am on the EU side looking at LRD’s. Toyotas (all Asian cars) are hard to find and parts have to be imported. Toyotas and Hondas are a US market cars, forget it here. LRD’s is probably the best you can get (Cost, Parts and Service).
Sounds like a car I would have liked to have owned. 300k km and just oil changes. 👌 Toyota seams to be a bit bigger in the States, Toyota is quite common here in Norway, but it's only the tiny versions. 😂 No taco owners that I know of here. Parts from the UK is a good options and what I usually do if I have planned it right. Looking at any particular Land Rover ?
I have an LR3 2005, no DPF, I’ve replaced the EGR valves, front wheel bearings & ball joints, turbo, EPB rebuild lasted 30miles before playing up, fuel tank guard/strap, rear prop shaft, a few rear PDC, front diff oil, center diff oil, rear diff oil & half shaft seals, manual gear box oil, removed all parts & blasted the underside to bare metal using Buzzweld products, I’ve replaced all discs & pads at some point and quite a few oil & filter changes, brake callipers, spare wheel winch, battery, defo need deep pockets I only keep it cos I’ve a big dog, I’ve now bought a GAP Diagnostics tool to make things easier, I’ve 136000miles & bought the LR around 7 years ago with 107000miles.
That was a lot for 30k miles but should hold up for a while now I hope. If your not fixing it your self you sure need some deeper pockets. I could not afford that if I had to take it to a garage here in Norway. 😅 The room in the Discovery is unbeatable, the square space is just great and I'm so glad to have it as a family car. Has proven it's self over and over again when we go on longer trips.
I’ve had our 2008 d3 since 2011. UK spec eu4, no DPF. We’re heavy overlanders and been to 42 counties in our one. Have had many of the same issues. But we are still on the original brake calipers. And we have never been stranded. We did replace a high pressure fuel pump. But that was a bad diagnosis from a main dealership. Otherwise it’s been very reliable. We have had to replace a torque converter though.
42 countries.... That's insane. I can only dream of that many. It's good to hear from others that has that much experience cause it gives me confidence in the fact that building up the Discovery as my main overlander is a good idea. 👍🙂 Torque converter is on my worst case list. Quite expensive to get done over here in Norway. Thank you for sharing and giving me something to aim for. 42 countries... hehe, mine has been in 2. 😅 Simon.
I was a bit Landrover fan, had three Discoverys - the last one exactly the same as yours. I got rid of it after I realised it was costing me $AUD 6-7K per annum in servicing and repairs. Since then I've had a number of fords and now a Mitsubishi Pajero Sport. The disco 3 was amazing off-road, comfortable and the interior etc was the best. I just never realised spending $6-7k per annum on servicing was not normal. Now $600 for a service, under $1,200 per yer, and nothing breaks!
True but Mitsubishi ,wife has one, is not a good drive suspension is that bad oil coolers went on ours they wanted 400 for new one , had to go second hand but has been very reliable
Yeah, it can cost you a lot if you don't work on it your self. The services her in Norway are really expensive as well so I started doing them my self after gettign to 170k km. It's all down to what you want to do and what you want to spend your money. As I usally say, it does not matter the car, just get out there overlanding. We are all car guys and just happen to land on a favorite brand. 🙂 I'm just stuck in with Land Rover because of it's amazing history and the LR community, it is really something else. 👍🙂 Wish you the best with you Pajero! Simon.
If you order from the UK the parts are not that expensive. And for non critical parts you can get third party suppliers. Not sure the cost down under but it's probably a bit cheaper to get it over to Norway. 🙂
I just found your channel, and got a 2015 D4 no locker too, happy to now that even in your weather conditions it's doing good. Also I really love the way you are doing this video. And adding soo much beautiful landscapes 👍🏻🤩
Hey and thank you so much! Sorry for the late reply but been hectic, just home from another weekend trip with the guys. 🏔️😊 I never missed the locker for what we do. Would I have liked to have had it, sure, would it have failed on me in the 10 years I have owned the car, definitely. So money saved for a part I don't really need. Maxtrax will do me fine, and I have only needed them once. 😂 Thanks again for the kind words, much mor to come.
I had the discovery 3 ...also 2007 model here in South Africa for 4 years. I do most mechanical work.myself and I know an expert level LR certified technician. My experience was that LR is cheaper used as it is horrendously experience to maintain and unreliable. Worst is when you have a problem that even LR head office in UK can't resolve. I loved the ride...best in the industry but ride is nothing without reliability. If you can't own it from new with factory maintenance plan than rather buy Land Cruiser. I sold my LR for a Land Cruiser Prado and could not be happier. Cost effective to run and maintain. Reliability is best in industry. Parts cheap. Work horses of note. They keep going and not sensitive service delays....amazing vehicle. Toyota is world leader in 4x4 vehicles for a reason. LR CEO recently (2021) went on record and news to admit to the companies 2 decades of unreliability. He vowed to get this sorted.. Nice review but I did the same as you....saved on the purchase price upfront and paid all that saving and more on the maintenance. I should have got the Land Cruiser Prado from the start. Toyota keep there value globally for this reason. LR has alot to learn from Toyota.
There is a lot of thruth in what you say and I definetly don't think you made bad choice. I wouldn't mind owning a Toyota but my first love is definetely Land Rover, it's just something about the history. I think I would go for a cruiser wagon of some sort with a Arctic truck build. They are insane. 🙂 By doing most of the work my self I have kept the cost down and over the years the list is not bad and many of the faults is to be expected. The value on the Discovery has hold up here in Norway as to there are not to many cars that can do what it can do. The Toyata prices are insane in Norway even on old trucks. 🙂 Wish you great trips in your Prado! Simon
Love your video. An honest review of your ownership . Your crank will not fail so long as oil changes are kept at regular intervals . No risk of oil dilution I do mine every 5000 miles . When you change your belt , change out the oil pump too. Oil pressure is perfect with no loss in pressure . Plus if you are still running the original pump . The design was updated with a reinforced casing. Fixing an issue which killed a lot of 2.7 's . Best of luck keep them coming .
Hey and thank you so much. I am planning to change the oil pump next year with togheter with the next timing belt change. I knew about the casing failure, but your point about oil pressure is a good one and I have not thought about it as a reason for changing it out. Great tip. I will aim to take the 2.7 to 300k km so a new oil pump won't hurt. 👍🙂 Thanks again and I will definitely keep on making videos. 🙂 Simon
@@LandRoverDrive Thank you , Personally I believe in prevention being the best cure. My next list job is gearbox . I've 64k on mine . Im having a full operation pressure ,fluid change on the gearbox . With upwards of 95% fluid replaced first time . Its a different way of changing the fluid . Opposed to straight forward flushing or super flushing . Which achieves 50- 60 % at best. Which can transfere rubbish into components causing other problems your trying to bypass in first place . For a couple of hundred pounds . Its better than a couple of thousand down the line for a new box . Best of luck and keep them coming.
L/Rovers have and always will take a bashing from folk that either have not had one or had one and just simply abused them All cars have their faults do they not I am either very lucky or just look after my cars either way have had 2 x 2 door range rovers still have one 37 years on NO PROBLEM 1 four door NO PROBLEM 90 Defender 300k miles NO PROBLEM I now drive an L322 R/Rover had it 6 years NO PROBLEM I think the Land cruiser is a fantastic car so not biast in anyway I would have one tom !!! I like your honest review I personaly thought these were a bit of a dog but changed my mind !! the only thing I have never done is flushed the gearbox oil change yes but never flush been advised by many its not a good thing to do unless the car has been flushed regularly from new and since they say the gearbox oil does not need changing it does not happen !!
Totally agree with all cars have their issues. 🙂 2 door is a beauty and I wish I could own one at some point. I think it is as you say, if you take care of the cars they will take care of you. I think with LR you maybe need to be a bit more preventive but then you know it won't do you wrong and break down. 👍 I also like the Cruisers and don't hate on any brand for that matter. As I say, we are all car people, we just happend to land on a favorite brand. 🙂 I aiming to flush the gearbox every 100k km from the first flush at 160k km. I hope this will be enough to save it and the converter. Everything on this channel is honest, just a regular car guy who likes his cars and who likes to make videos. Thank you! Best, Simon.
Great video showing the list of repair over the period of your ownership. I am going to purchase one in around 10 months time and intend to carry out most of the repairs myself. I am studying the vehicle's mechanics, the way it is put together first, tools required, ease of accessibility to the faulty areas and cost of parts etc. I use to take my BMW 1000 RS Box Twin motorcycle apart, repair and service it myself. Only major Jobs I would source to a qualified and reputable mechanic. Once one is use to servicing and repairing a vehicle it is a piece of cake. Some jobs may be difficult like removing stuck glow plugs, but most of the jobs should be pretty straight forward. A good service and regular maintenance will reduce breakdowns. Despite the high MPG fuel consumption of the 4.4V8, I may go for it instead of the diesel. Thanks for sharing your awesome video and love the video capture and editing. I am studying filmmaking myself so notice it when I see a good video with great editing. You tell a story very well. Thanks for sharing Subscribed
I think it’s about finding the right one and finding a good one. Do proper research and don’t stress to find a car. Do a proper inspection and you can have a good car for years if you take care of it. 👍😊
I've had most of these wear and tear items , but not the corrosion stuff as there is no salting in the tropics . Mine is the petrol , which hasn't been a problem at all . Excellent report Simon :-)
Thank you and no salting sounds like heaven. 🙂🙂V8 and tropics sounds so great in my ears. So different from my situation her in Norway and my Diesel. As you say, many wear and tear items that is espected with every car that is this old except for the air suspension components. Glad you liked the video and thank you for letting me know. Enjoy the tropics and that V8. 😉 Simon
Over seven years of ownership it's pretty good. People forget how heavy these cars are. You know brakes will get worn and bushings will get punished. This is the price you pay for a beautifully riding car that is unstoppable off road. You could get a Land Cruiser but that's like driving a bag of cement with an engine from a canal boat (not the V8 I might add).
Hehe, bag of cement, the old ones are a bit tractor-like boxes. 😂 The weight is definitely an factor and the car being a bit more complex than the similar range LC. The V8 series Land Cruisers I would love to try out som day, I would think they would be a nice option if I could't drive a LR. 😊
My 2008 LR3 has had a similar run of faults and has similar mileage - but I love it. I have come from two defenders and a Toyota hilux - loved each of those vehicles, no issues with any of them but cannot match the class and comfort of the Disco. Particularly now with a small family (we have the 7 seater). I don’t think anything does the Offroad/beach driving on the weekend and Corporate Class by week combo any better. Mines been well looked after and hope to keep it for a very long time - faults and all 😀
Yeah, exactly. It can do it all, almost, and with a family of four it has been the perfect fit. Safe car, a lot of space and a great drive on those longer trips. WIsh you the best of luck with your Disco. I do wish I had that V8, seems to be the best engine option if you don't look at how thirsty it is. 🙂🙂
Hei Simon , I enjoying 2 years with my LR3 2006 modell almost 200.000 km now and a lot emotions roads to the future yet . hilsen fra Sandnes Rogaland ! thanks for this video . 🙌🏼🇳🇴
Great to see a car like this really used the way it was intended. Btw, your cinematography is incredible! Hopefully I make it to Sweden one day, loos beautiful!
Thannk you so much, reall appreciate that! North of Sweeden over the mountains is really beautiful during the winter. But Norway is a step up when it comes to great views all year round. 🙂
Hey man, that is really great to hear. I worked hard on this one and it took a long time finding all the raw materials. I try to impove for every video, a bit hard with the mechanical ones, not so general interesting. But should be better and better. Starting on overland build series as soon as the reset series is done so there is a lot of nice videos to come. And LR will always have a special place in my heart. 😉👍
Imagine if these had the same reliability as a Toyota. The Land Rover would be an absolute must buy. It's a beautiful machine that is both applauded and also let down by its own reputation
I wish that were the fact! 🤗 There are good and bad models and the D3 is on of the good ones if you take care of it of course. Would have been fun to see one with solid axels and less electronics because the looks is like no other in my head. 👌
Great video, very well edited and interesting! Mine is the 2007 HSE but only had it 2 years so some things probably changed before I bought it. I replaced all 4 air struts as front passenger side had a leak. (They were all date stamped 2007 original struts) So decided to change all 4. Compressor looks like it may have been changed already. Air tank changed, I replaced the rear prop shaft as centre bearing bushing was completely worn. Front prop shaft (Had some play) Discs, calipers and flexi hoses Front and rear also rear copper brake pipes. Front upper and lower suspension arms, Rear upper and lower suspension arms, Front ARB bushes swapped out for poly bushes as they were very worn, Rear ARB bushes swapped for poly bushes, Rear toe arms, Rear drop links, Front drop links, New battery, New drivers side door seal was worn from someone scuffing against it when getting in, New rear brake shoe backing plate and bearing drivers side, New window rubber trim outside lower edges of glass on 2 of the doors (The rubber had bubbled up) New windscreen plastic scuttle (Plastics all faded) New heated washer jet passenger side. Engine oil changed 3 times, gearbox oil changed twice, brake fluid, engine coolant, diff and transfer box oils changed, power steering fluid changed. I realise some of the things I changed didn't need changing at the time, but I wanted to keep it as reliable as possible. Aircon doesn't work after replaced pipes and replaced blend motor, still trying to get it working. There is probably lots more that was replaced but I've forgotten about. The Discovery 3/4 isn't for the faint hearted and it's a love hate relationship for me, but mostly love or I think it'd be gone by now 😂 What a machine though 😊👍
Love the detailed list. See there are some things I need to do. Have the bubling on the window lists, I have not changed the front prop, maybe time. Front brake hoses are in the garage waiting. 🙂 All struts, I think I will do all four when I going to do mine as well. I have a tiny leak or a bad height sensor so need to figure that out. Seems like you have yours pretty much sorted and in good shape. And yeah, it is a love hate thing. I think the solution to the heater matrix is to change out the whole unit. Was someone who mentioned that to me, maybe in the other video, not sure. But his solution was a new complete unit I think. 🤔 I'm just glad I'm over the hump and can finally start planning some fun modifications. 👍
Hey, it’s great to question how to fix and the parts to use. That said, I still believe that, for the average owner, it will be much easier just to change the prop. And I recommend using either original or oem only for critical parts like the center prop shaft. For engine parts I only use original or better. 👍 But do some research on the parts if your not sure about the quality. For easy to change parts you can buy cheaper and switch more often. Personally I want to be out driving so I spend a bit more to get quality parts. 😊
With everything being from original production date I would change the compost struts with oem or originals. Then I would know it would last about the same time they have until they failed. So for mine that would be 13-15 years. Then you don’t have to go back and do the procedure again. 👍😊 But that’s my way, we all have different angles of attack. I’m guessing I have to change mine in the next 2 years.
Hi Simon, Really really like this video. The scenery, the story, the vehicle and the presenter all great.I have been a big LR fan for 20 yrs and find them to be great tools. They need to go to homes where the owner wants a tool rather than just a car as they need plenty of pro-active maintenance. But they are Gggggggrrrrrrreat !!
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for letting me know. I do my best to make it usefull and entertaining at the same time. There will be a lot more great scenery to come and loads of videos on the Discovery so stay tuned. And yeah, they are really great. 👍🙂
I have a 2006 LR3 SE V8 with HD package. Bought it new in 2007 and now I have 230,000 miles on it. Hood latch and rear cargo door latch broke once. I repaired them as shown on TH-cam. Then the electronic parking brake wore out and I had a shop repair it at 200,000 miles. Changed spark plugs twice and I clean the mass air flow sensor and change air cleaner every year. Also changed the little “T” fitting in the coolant hose before it broke (see TH-cam). Regular fluid changes at intervals shorter than manufacturers requirements. Keep the truck from over heating and getting low on oil and it will run a long time. Now however, the A pillar covers are loose and leak water and the sunroof hoses broke and leak water into the cabin so I bought all the parts and will fix as shown on TH-cam. I still trust the truck on desert excursions. LR3 weighs 5,000+ pounds empty so I run light truck tires on it (BF Goodrich All Terrain LT 265/60-18). A modest size but strong enough for my off road loading. Don’t let dealers sell you anything less. A great truck with lots of road trip memories but you should have mechanical abilities to reduce costs. Oh, the air suspension has never given me any problems except to replace the pump once. And because of the truck’s weight suspension bushings wear out. Over my 15 years of operating this truck the leaking sunroof is the most annoying and serious problem.
Thanks for sharing - A really nice overview of your ownership. I haven't gotten the sunroof leak yet so I'm up for a wet surprise soon. 😅 I also have gone for a higher load rating now on my new tires and will show that in a video soon.
All in all: Nothing out of the ordinary for such a heavy car. I think the only actual issue is the electronic handbrake... I am going to service it next week =D
👍😊 Think so as well. Still running nice and I’m still putting maintenance and pre failure work into it. 👍 My goal is to keep it running until it rusts away or the emissions laws kicks it out of Norway. 😂 Best of luck with the service, I need to do a service this spring on mine. 😊
21:50 great point. These are heavy cars like Land Cruisers or Nissan Patrols and they have their issues too. Especially the Toyota’s with their Common Fail Diesels. I think your list was mostly normal wear and tear items aside from a few LR specific items, especially in a climate where roads are salted and rust is a constant problem. It’s a really nice looking car, great colour and interior trim combination. Greeting from Oz.
Thank you Mark and yeah, all cars, like people, have their issues. 🙂 I think the list is okay and for the age it's not bad. I guess it all comes to the point if you can fix most of the stuff your self to keep the cost down. I do think fixing your own car, or most of it, is great as you know how it works and you could more likely fix it out on the tracks if something were to fail. 🙂 Best, Simon.
@@LandRoverDrive I agree, it seems done people expect to do very little to keep a car running and as a Toyota Camry owner (😬) I think this is not unrealistic in some cases. I also have an old BMW E34 wagon...it’s a source of constant maintenance. A discovery 3 is the next thing I want to get so I really appreciate the efforts people like you put into creating videos that are realistic. I’m very tempted by a V8 SE that is for sale near me. Maybe. Maybe. It all depends on finances. 🤔🙄
@@markmcgrath9098 Thanks, appreciate that a lot. 👍 SE V8 is a great choice. If I could change mine I would get a V8 SE without a sunroof and with the rear locker if possible.
@@LandRoverDrive yes, in Oz we have to comply with the manufacturer’s GVM or risk being fined for over loading the car. The SE is about 250kg less than HSE meaning you can take more stuff! All that glass in the roof is a bad idea for places with hot summers.
I have had a LR 90 pickup 2 1/4 petrol, a V8 Range Rover and then a LR defender 300tdi CSW and tbh they weren’t that expensive to run and I used them daily. Looking at a D3 auto and doing my research. I tend to do as much as I can myself so that helps. Lots of support and after market parts that helps. Very similar support network to VW.
You got a very nice selection there. Doing the work your selves saves a ton and I try to do most of the work my self. I did do the services at the dealer before 200k km to keep the value up if I were to sell it, but at 200k km I figured I'm never going to sell it and I'm going to see how far I can drive it before the next stop is the scrappers. 😊 And until now I have let the mechanic handle the major engine work and gearbox flush. I also let them do the front lower control arm because of the sized bolt issues. Other than that I have done all of the work my self and definitely the only way I could have afforded owning this car in Norway. I also order all the parts from the UK, it's about a 10th of the price from the dealer here in Norway. I thinking of driving over to the UK on a vacation trip/overlanding trip and get the turbo, crossover pipe and maybe the injectors, I think the work and parts cost saved would pay for the rest of the vacation. 😂
Thank you for the nice comment! 🤗 Glad you like the video. We enjoy the car a lot and I'm currently sitting up in Sweden after a 500km drive and writing back to you! 🏔👍
Have my 2008 Disco 3 SE V8 10 years now and even with it's sometimes pain in the butt gremlins I love ❤️ it, 98+K miles on it and counting. Cheers 🍻 🇺🇸
Love to hate and hate to love 😂 3 years since this was made and I still have it, so also coming up on 10 years. I think it's now in februar. 2. sec, check. Yep, 25.03.2013 is the 10 year anniversary. 🤙 238 000 km so about 148000 miles and running without issues. Would love that V8 though, can only imagine the torque on that thing. Well, maybe in the next one. 😅 Best, Simon
Have owned many 4x4 trucks and suvs .3 Toyota land cruisers, Mitsubishi Montero SR, Volkswagen Touareg V8, 2 Toyota pick ups, and now my favorite 2005 lr3 hse 220,000 miles 4.4 v8 locking rear differential. Just love air suspension .no check engine light but I did blow up transfer case pushing the limits. Loves sand dunes at Glamis. Pip pip
4.4 V8, I dream of that sound every night. 👌👌 Yeah the ride on the lr3/d3 is hard to beat. Once you go air it’s definitely hard to go back. Riding in dunes looks like so much fun and it’s on my bucket list of thing I would like to do in a 4x4. 😊 Best, Simon.
I don't think they are for super hardcore offroad, but overlanding and light offroad is a perfect fit. Hard to find a car that can do what the Discovery can by default. 🙂
Hehe, no, the stories can keep you up at night. 😁 I have come to the conclusion that you can be both luck and unlucky but you can't get away from that a good service plan makes the car better and more reliable in the end. 🤓 Thanks for watching! 👍😁
I had the similar problem with the FBH. Electronics was caputt. If kind worked 1st time after resetting the fbh errors, then got an error and next time didnät start. Even changed the burn chamber before we found out it was the "brain". Bought a used one off ebay and it worked. Now I have an extra new burn-chamber waiting for old one to fail. Installed Altox fbh controller too. It's fantastic.
Thank you so much! 9 years, nice, know the car well then. Coming up on nine years in February my self. 👍😊 Will be fun to see what you have had to deal with on yours. 🤔
I have a disco3 that has been family owned since new. It has covered 203,000k now. The list of repairs are similar. The vehicle is pleasant to drive and performs well. I would like to get some 17" wheels for better tyre options and increased bump absorption. I think the electric handbrake is a bad idea when a manual type is more reliable and appropriate in a 4wd imo. Overall a well designed and built vehicle. Mine now has a reusable metal gearbox sump pan to replace the disposable plastic one for gearbox servicing. I think a basic spec disco3 with coil suspension, manual gearbox, manual handbrake and minimal electronics would potentially be cheaper and easier to maintain while still delivering similar driving pleasure but it's obvious that landrover were aiming at the luxury market even though they already had the range rover.
Owned since new, that is very cool. I just passed 10 years with mine on Sunday. 17" wheels are good, I have a video on it on my channel where I refurbish old originals and put on some slightly bigger tires -> th-cam.com/video/eGKExC2tiC8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=d7OdgsNQ0nGjuRTZ - I also would love manual handbrake but if you service your brakes there should never be an issue with the electric one, and when it works it works really well, not like a land cruiser. 😊 I would say the automatic gearbox is better than the manual one, if you flush the gearbox at 150k km and every 100k km after that it should be good for many years. With the manual you would have to change out the clutch at some point and not sure that is better. Also the turbo tends to seize on the manual ones as it doesn't get the reves it needs to open. I think the autobox is really good, if it was a bad one I would love to have the manual, also the autobox is great for offroad, super control. Off-road video -> th-cam.com/video/_n8h4n8QPx0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=38cQvnXUtN9v-z3I I Wish you the best of luck with you Disco and I hope you find those 17" wheels. Simon
Good illustration of why Land Rover doesn't bother spending money on r & d to make their cars more durable /reliable, people buy them anyway. 200k isn't all that much, just about everything fell apart but it's 'not too bad'.
Hehe, it's like Windows, users do all the testing. 😂😂 But yeah, I guess it all comes down to each owner. 200k is just the first goal, aiming for 300k now. Don't think we will see old Hilux numbers but good to have something to aim for. 😅
We love ours 2007 v6 2.7 GS but I do all the service myself it’s done 97 k miles. Timing belt etc I did myself. So not too expensive. Prop shaft done new EGR Valves £45 per side. My wife uses it every day and I use it for pulling my big trailer. Alternator done and belt tensioner done all myself. Only ever gone into garage for mot.
Sounds like mine and my rutine, except for timing belts, I haven't dared to tackle that one yet. The only way I could afford owning this car was to do most of the work my self, and happy I have done so because I have learned so much. And I love it, trusted family and overland rig for 10 years no. 🤙 I'm at 249100km and getting close to that 250k km mark. After that I can't complain if the engine blows up or it breaks in half. 😂 Simon
@@LandRoverDrive yea I bought mine when it had 62 k on it knowing it had been sold as all its big issues would be coming up. I bought it as it was cheap but knew I’d have to do everything. First thing was new brakes all round then as I say I did the majors at 72 k. I didn’t’ want the HSE too much electrics and the sun roofs can be I nightmare we live on Orkney I’d heard they can leak into air blower. Stupid design in many ways also A post cover can come off which is a real pain. They let water in as well which can stop the blower and mine did it stopped the radio. You need a good tool set and I got a icar diagnostic for mine first thing. My wife loves it says she could never have anything else but we can’t afford a newer one so this will have to do. Better the devil you know I think.?
Just picked up a 2005 V8 SE, as soon as I got it I’ve replaced all the coils and plugs, and trans service… Hoping I won’t have to do too much more in the future. Seems like a lot of the bigger issues are with the diesel. Suspension stuff at that age is expected I guess..
Yeah for sure, petrol is the safer bet in the long run. A lot of expensive components in the Diesel engine that will fail after a certain point. If I could I would have change it out with a V8 petrol SE with no sunroof and with the rear locker.
I only came across your videos this evening, but they’re brilliant so I’ll be watching more. I’m thinking of buying a Discovery 3 too but I’m in the Uk.
Hey and thank you for that. Happy hunting for a D3, spend a good time reading and you can find a lot on the Disco forum and facebook pages. A lot of things that is good to check out before buing. 👍🙂
Hey, glad you were happy with your choice. I think it depends on what type of ride you prefer. With me I feel the softness is really great especially on dirt roads and the bumpy roads during winter and spring time. 🙂
Things like bushes will fail with time. My Ford Focus had new control arms at about 150,000 km for the same reason. It was an age ting, as it's about 15 years old. The same with CV boots and the like. Basically, if you have an older Discovery, then the labour costs will hit hard, so if you can do your own work, it makes a huge difference. Of course, living where you do, a lot of those age related failures have to be fixed before they get too bad or else it will fail the annual inspection. It's not like parts of the USA, where they often have no such annual test, and vehicles get often get driven until something fails badly.
Yeah, I'm glad we have the controls. I can be lazy too and they forces people to fix they car and keep them at a minimum level of safe. I can't imagine the dangers of cars not being tested at least every two years. A lot can go wrong in that time.
I sold my Pajero Sport and want buy something around 300.000kr... I was look on Land Cruiser 150 2010 and was very bad condition. All time in my mind I got Tundra. Next day I was look on Range Rover 4.2 supercharged 2007. When I sit inside... I never seen soo big different between cars. RR is really top level. But last week I see in my Town someone want sell Tundra. I decide to compared her to RR. And car was really good.... but ... For someone who not drive RRSC 😘
Hehe, comparing a RR and a LC interior is nothing but hilarious. 😂 But as a overland car the LC probably the safer bet if it’s not rusted through. The LC also cost a lot in Norway due to it popularity and reputation. I don’t know much about Tundra other than they look really cool. 👌 Going for a wagon and not a pickup?
i have had LR3 2006 for 3 years and now i have LR4 2013 and i can say there are both are amazing cars, LR3 showing 330 Km when i sale it and my LR4 now 240Km its solid and reliable car and if i gonna change it defiantly i will go to the new DISCO again
The D3/LR3 and D4/LR4 is hard to beat. I’m in the same boat, if something happens to mine I’m definitely going for another Disco. Would be fun to test out the V8 at some long. 👍😊
Very true. I also thing it’s a good whey to get to know your car, especially if you are going on longer trips. You know how to fix it if something would fail. 👍😊
I had a LR3 for 3 years. I bought the car 3yr old with 100.000km and drove additional 120.000km. The repaircosts alone were in the range of 15.000€, thus 5k€/yr + oil service, brakes, timing belt, etc. Glowplugs, Alternator, Parksensors, Air compressor, parking brake, fog lights, one front light (whole light, not just the bulb), windscreenwipers, broken turbo hose, crappy dealer experiences etc. all included. The car was driven on road and usually calmly because its not a racing car. In addition transmission was worn out, central locking, etc .... All together a crappy car. After the D3 i bought a BMW X5, also at 100tkm, and drove to 450.000km without major issues. Never again LR
Thats a lot, unlucky I would think. That's a thing with these cars, it all depends on the guy beforehand. 100k to 200k is also the most expensive part of the ownership. Now with 220k on mine I will start all over again I guess, belts, oil pump and water pump. But I'm glad to hear your x5 worked out, great looking cars and BMW is always a good drive. :)
@@LandRoverDrive I thought i was unlucky and the preowner also used it heavily for towing. But in Germany the towing limit for cars is 3.5t, the D3 is capable of towing much more. On the other hand, I found numerous articles about air compressor fails and parking brake fails at a certain milage range - and guess what: my failures happend exact in this range. So I would call it not a misuse but a bad design. The ultimate experience was a crack in the turbo hose - i found the exact crack in the internet, at the exact same spot with the same length. Usually autoparts come with a certain specification to the OEM - if they are designing the car in the wrong way and the part is misused by default, this would explain the other errors too. So to me it seems that LR is doing their work properly and the design is made in a way, that the car just reaches the 100.000km or 3yrs until the warranty ends, then it is your problem.
No need for a rear difflock for normal overlanding or offroad use in Norway. Terrain response helps you out. :) if you'd had a rear locker you could probably add the locker motor to your list as well. They seez up due to lack of use... 😉 Great video. I dont think other vehicles at almost 3 tonn will have much less faults during 7 year or 100 to 200k.
Hehe, another thing on the list. 😂 Yeah, air locker maybe in the far future. I have a lot of other things I need and want first. Especially for our kind of overlanding and off-roading. 👍🙂 Thank you Erik and as always I'm looking forward to our next trip. 🤙🙂 I just hope it won't be too long before we can go. 😉
Hey Olaus and thank you for watching and the kind words. I do my best with the Discovery but I'm going to step it up a bit from now on since I don't have to spend time on the Defender I sold just a few months ago. :) Starting #projectdiscovery and building it up as a overland rig. :) Simon
Sweden here! Realy nice video, great quality! Bought mine, hse 07 last autumn and ive done like half of those thingson your list, to be fair me and my girl been driving it upp and down sweden over 3000k's in less than a year. My parents has the same one but an 08 that ive been fixing for them.. IF they werent so nice to drive, tow stuff and go offroad all in one it would not be worth the hassle! Probably going to keep this till something major fails,, and have an a8 4.2 tdi as a main city car and for the summer roads and longer trips down into europe. The landy is perfect in the forest and to the winter cabin. Me and my girl also have slept inours severaly times on smaler exursions, especially during covid getaways. Even my parent have camped in theirs! They are big! We use a 120cm inflatable bed, fits snugg! xD
Hey Marcus and Sweden, I just been over for 2 days in Västerbotten, at our winter paradice. Great to see it during the summer but a bit too much insects to be honest. But yeah, the D3 is a ready to go overland, off-road and family cars so it is one of the reasons for why it's worth having. And maybe also why it have more faults than a Hilux. Sound like you got it coverd when it comes to D3, I will also drive it until something to big comes along. I hope it won't happen in a long time, but who knows. 3000k in a year is enough but it really comes easily with the D3. I could drive for days in that car. And hopefully we can go for a overland trip to Sweden in the not to far future.
I have had a Honda CRV 2nd gen petrol for 6+ years. Never failed, but........Most suspension bits replaced. A couple of calipers. Back door won't lock. Replaced knock sensor. Now need new 02 sensor. Any old car will need bits replacing over the years. For 7 years this Disco far from being a nightmare is actually a bit of a myth-buster.
Hey Jonathan and thanks for sharing a honest review. 👍 As you say, all old cars need maintainance and a good plan for pro-active work if you want it to be safe and reliable on trups. Seems like you have control of your car and knows what's what, that's what I have learned while working on the car my self, you basically could predict what is next on the list. D3 is solid in many ways and have some issues that is not such a big deal if you manage them up front or right away. Thanks for watching and leaving a great comment. Best, Simon. 🙂
I am seriously considering buying one of those. I love the line and the vibes that come with it. Besides the reliability issues, I am also a bit concerned about the fuel consumption, we would also use it in the city. How do you think it compares to other cars in its category?
Hey Luca and sorry for the late reply! 😅 The lines on the car is beautiful and classic, you can see the lines from the old Range Rover Classic in this car, which is what I would call original Land Rover Design. 🚗👌 My 2008 Discovery 3, with the TDV6 Diesel, uses anything from 0.8L to 1L per 10km, but it stays there steady, no huge spikes, even if I go into town or pull a trailer. So I just calculate with 1L per 10km. Which is a bit but not bad considering the big car and the 2.7 to 3 tonn car. There is no car that can compare to the D3 when it comes to how it is to drive it, how it feels to drive it. Riding on air is like nothing else, and since it is so squared, you have an overview like no other. It's not a sports car so you adjust the driving style to it but even though its big you can drive it a bit as it settles nicely in the corners. I guess the Range Rover L322 would be an alternative, when it comes to nice rides, but you sacrifice a bit of utility and space. The box shape of the D3 gives you so much room and options in the back. For the price you can't get anything similar I belive. The Porsche Cayenne is an alternative to ride quality and drive, I'm guessing a bitt better to drive. But again, no space compared to the Disco. The Land Cruiser is a tractor compared to the D3. But, I would suggest putting up a list of the top 3-5 things you will be using your car for, that usually defines the car you should buy. Mine was back in the day:1. Safe Family Car for longer trips 2. Daily Driver 3. Tow Trailer, house refurbish 4. Overland Build (Came 7 years later) And final, life to short, buy what you look back at every time you park. The car that make you smile when you see it. But don't go beyond your financial limits, because you will hate the car. Best, Simon.
I Still own and Drive this beauty! 🤙10 YEARS 😊 Let me know if you want me to make a update video on the last 3 years. 😊
yes please
@@PasinduBhanuka-p6k 👍😊 Will start on making the list of things I’ve fixed or serviced since this video was made. 😊
How much money have you used on repairs and services?
@@nickeooo I honestly don't really know. I had the car serviced at the LR garage from 100k km to 200k km, because I had an engine insurance than was pretty strict, after 200k km til now, 248k km I have serviced it my self.
I fix everything my self except for "deep" engine work, and gearbox flush.
If I were to guess, roughly, I think it's somewhere around 150k NOK, 13k £, all the parts, servicing, flushing, tires, alignments and so on. Devide that on 10 years and down to 15k NOK 1300£ a year.
Bare in mind that I have done things before they fail, like flushing the gearbox, changing out the oil and water pump, timing belts and so on.
If I where to use the garage for everything I couldn't have afforded to own the car, nor any other car. 13000£ a year is what you would expect for owning any post 2005 car in Norway.
One service on a regular Subaru outback would be 800-1500£ each year, + eventual parts and tire needs.
I hope this answer some of your question. :)
If I were living in the UK the sum would be much lower due to the extreme prices here in Norway. I do order parts from the UK as it usually 1/10 of the price as from the LR Dealer here.
Best, Simon.
@@LandRoverDrive Takk for svar😊 Jeg har veldig lust på en, men hører så mye forskjellig om kvaliteten på dem🤷♂️ Skrur selv så det hjelper👍 Hørt at 3 ern er den beste? Hva mener du om det?Bor og i norge😊
I've had my 2006 LR3 4.4 liter for 4.5 years. I bought it with 100k miles and the mileage now is 168k. It has never broken down, in fact, it has never had a check engine light on. It is used as a daily driver and an overland vehicle that sees serious off roading in the U.S. Still in love with it.
Yeah, it's a different kind of love with these cars. I would love to have that 4.4V8 in mine as from what I have learned it's a rock solid engine. A bit on the thirsty side but worth it in the long run with the expensive diesel repairs. Really good to hear it's more like me out there, thanks for sharing. Simon
I have had my 4.4 for 2 years. I also have never had any break down except for little power steering fluid leakage due to the worn out seal shortly after buying. Solid like a rock.
@@LandRoverDrive you can say that again. There’s one here for a start.
I have the 2006 also, almost 200K, no problem at all.
how is it going 3 years later? any major issues?
I have my 2005 HSE 8 years now, remarkably similar experience, 390,000km up on it now and still going strong. Great content as usual. Respect to you for all the jobs you have tackled yourself.
390k km is amazing, min is just half that. I find it odly satisfying to fixing stuff my self as long as I have the time and don't have to stress about it. I'm glad you liked the video and I wish you the best with yours in the next 100k km. :)
My Dad has a had a discovery 4 commercial sdv6 from new in 2011, its done 170,000 miles, regularly tows at full capacity, some light off road use and us his daily commuter. Besides the usual consumable parts (service and brakes etc) its only wanted for 1 injector and an oil pump seal 500 miles ago. Besides that it went in for the recall for the uprated inlet manifolds. Absolute beast of a car. Worth getting a full gearbox flush at 100,000 miles though.
Nice to hear some good stories as well on here. 👍🙂 And yeah, that gear box flush is smart. Will be doing another on in a couple of years. Next year will be belt changes. 😅
I have a range rover and a Lexus. In 9 years of owning my Lexus, it has NEVER been in the shop. The range rover has been mostly in the shop for the past year (total ownership time). no joke.
Hehe, I have no comment. 😅😅 Other than, which one to you like/love the most?
for a vehicle that has gone past the 200k km mark, the list is justifiable.
The advice to repair the car yourself whenever you can is a brilliant one. I love the discovery, eyeing the LR4.
Totally agree that it's justifiable! Every car will cost you to keep it reliable. The LR4 really looks the part, I wouldn't mind one my self but now I have to see how far I can go with my D3. 👍🙂
You can keep it, my toyotas do 2 or 3 times that mileage without a single problem
@mikelaurie3850 one man's meat is another man's poison. Enjoy your toyota
Good video Simon. I think you have just saved me a lot of money. That list was a nightmare, I'm afraid its no Discovery for me. Thanks again.
Glad I could help. 😂😂😂 It's good to do some research before embarking on a Land Rover journey. 👍🙂 But loads of cars out there so happy hunting. 🤙 Simon
Your cinematography is breath taking. It is obvious you are a professional videographer. Thank you for your efforts!
Thank you soooo much for the nice comment. 😊😊 Not a pro but working my way up the ladder. 🎥☕️👍
Great video! thanks so much for taking the effort and time to explain in the best way you could. I am also in love with my LR3, so I fully understand the loyalty. In short, I just don't like Japanese 4x4's. No matter how much the LR3 costs to repair, it's still worth hanging onto. All the best to you up there in Norway!
Love is a strange thing so who can blame us for buying a Land Rover. 😂
Hey Simon Nice review! I own exactly the same car same year but a manual gearbox. Like you I love the car. Mine has done 300000km now without big problems so just good maintenance. So yours must be ready for the next 100000 ! Enjoy!! Greeting from Holland.
Thank you for the info glad to hear it's working out for you. It is always great to hear from others that has driven more than me. Gives me the confidence to put more money into the car in form of maintenance and soon modifications. I would have liked to have tested a manual one. The auto having it's pros and cons in the off-road area and sometimes I miss that real gear locking of a manual gearbox. Thanks again, Simon. 🙂
I just bought my first Land Rover, a 2007 LR3 (Discovery 3) 4.4 V8 for $1200 (about 13000 Kroner). It has a little over 200000 km on the clock and despite the neglect (and the smell, previous owner was a heavy smoker lol), the engine cranked right up and even the suspension is still working. I’m looking forward to cleaning it up, getting the maintenance caught up and enjoying it thoroughly.
That's awesome @brianm.6271 👍 A 4.4 V( for 13000kr, would be a real steal if it were in Norway. I think you would be looking at 150 000kr here if there were one for sale. Nothing for sale with a V8 on the open market. Best way to start I think, cheap buy and then get on top of the basic stuff first, good on you. Be sure to keep us updated on the progress. Best, Simon.
@LandRoverDrive Thanks Simon. I was lucky enough to visit Norway a few years ago. I got distracted by all the cars we aren't lucky enough to see in the US. The one that grabbed my attention the most was a Skoda Yeti. 😅 Here's a question for you. With the environmental regulations in Norway, is there incentive to keep older vehicles on the road?
1200$...OMG dude..i order 5 of them😁
@@Niki_two Where are you from, if you don’t mind me asking?
That is not a bad list for a car that is 14 years old and gets used off-road. Good video and a nice looking wagon
Very true! Again, Thanks! 😊
Good work Simon. I hope viewers understand the weather and road conditions in Norway and their effect on ANY and ALL cars. I see already that you got a ‘buy a Land Cruiser’ response. LC owners of comparable cars rarely provide lists of faults like you have and it’s not because they don’t have them, it’s because they want to preserve their myth of LC reliability.
Thank you for being honest with your service history. You are now a fully fledged Land Rover mechanic! Keep the wheels turning. 👍🏻🙏🏽😷🦘
Hehe, yeah it’s 90% wet days and the salty winter roads. Takes it toll on the the cars. I think all cars has their weaknesses and strengths and I’m not here to start a brand debate. 😊 I say we are all car guys and it’s just random which brand we land on as our favorite. One of my reasons is the exploring history of the LR brand, it’s really something special. 👍 I’m always honest and will keep it that way always. Nothing glorious here, just a guy who loves his cars and overlanding. Thank you Grahame for your support, really appreciate it. 👍😊 Simon.
Land cruisers are awful on the inside, they don’t compare with the class that landrover have, in my opinion…
I've alwyas wanted a Land Rover Discovery. However, I was alwasy put off by the reliability. In the UK a friend had a 3 and a 4 and is ahuge fan, but I did get to see all the parts that needed replacing. I bought a Mercerdes ML and my repairs over the same period were half those of the Discovery. Of course, I don't have elecric parking or air suspension to go wrong. I may still buy a Discovery 4, maybe.
@@gushbucket5998 That's the damn truth
This is the best thing said , people forget these types of vehicles in certain places are not just on smooth tarmac , also with a vehicle like LR you have the complex of the air suspension and the other technical parts that other cars don’t have that is an extra thing to go wrong . The LR is a great vehicle to be in , I have a evoque ( yes a baby RR) and it as the best seats I have ever sat in. I have owned German cars that do still break down , a Merc were the time of chain stretched that could of damaged the engine I was lucky it just skipped a tooth, and by the way it only had 30,000 miles on the clock, the same car the handbrake cable broke a few months from new and bad design the speaker would be smashed by closing the door on the seat belt, broken coil springs. Also had a bmw were I had a problem with the electronic engine oil indicator showed well over the max oil , then a air pressure sensor and then a clutch replacement and only did 26,000 miles and yes driving for years and never had to replace a clutch , so yes other cars still have problems.
Thank you Simon for sharing your love for the LR3 and those gorgeous shots of the Norwegian countryside. We bought a 1988 G-Wagon in Norway last year, have been restoring it ever since and are dying to get back up there once it can drive under its own power.
Hey and thank you for watching. G-Wagon is really cool. Have driven the old ones, nut sure about the year. The general purpose vehicle for the norwegian army. Great off-road with the locking diffs and so much fun. A bit low on power those but still fun. Borders are opening up so it's getting time to test it out. I hope you get your chance to drive it here cause it's definitely something special about overlanding in a old 4x4 in the mountains of Norway. 🙂
@@LandRoverDrive We're definitely going to reach out about places to go and routes to take, before we head up!
Very good and honest 7 year review! Wish more people did this on their vehicles. I also had a D3 earlier on, but i think i had half of ALL your problems during 1,5 yrs. Got sick and tired of all the problems, so I sold it! ;D But as with any other brand, things happens of course! I now have a D2, and absolute love it. See you on the Norwegian countryroad maybe! (",)
Thanks for the vid!
Thank you! Yeah, it would be helpfull to have a full database with these kind of videos. There is always something with all cars but if you are unlucky there can be more than one would like. Why I sold my Defender, I did not have enough time and money to keep two LR's up to speed. D2 is great and I was thinking of getting one before I got my D3. 🙂 I hope to be a lot out on the Norwegian country roads this fall so there is definitely a chance for that. Thanks for sharing. 👍 Simon
I have a bought new 2007 RR Sport 2.7 TDV6 down here in Australia. Most of the things you mention I've done too. Great to see you kept track. I didn't. Thanks for sharing.
Hey and congrats on the RR sport! I try to keep track and this list should be pretty complete. Will do an update next year as I pass 10 years of ownership. 👍😊 Any plans for the RR sport? They look really cool with some proper tires. 👌
I have had very similar 'faults/wear' on my Subaru Forester. plus rust on the underside of the car, in just over two years of ownership, the car is now 10 years old! So it's not limited to LR products, plus I had a garage do all the work! CRY!!!!!!!!!
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Hehe, sorry to hear that. I hate rust, on of the worst thing in a car guys life. 🙂🙂 Forester is a great car, Subaru really makes a great 4x4 system. I had a 2005 WRX back in the days. 👍🙂
Great review Simon, I just wish I had the skills and knowledge you have. I've managed to restore jammed sunroof mechanism on my 2005 HSR though. 370K km on clock right now and I can say the V6 is going strong after all those years. When I manage to complete the trunk overland conversion with bunks, electrics and stuff, I'm off to the trip to Norway. Cheers from Slovenia.
370K km, that is awesome. So nice to hear from others that has a D3 that has gone way beyond what I have driven. I'm also starting my build this year and hopefully I can get some of it done before winter hits. Wish you the best of luck with your build and your trip to Norway. Simon.
I have 2012 LR4, I use this car in the harsh hot summer in DUBAI I bout it new, now over 200,000 km. in the last 9 years other than the regular Scheduled maintenance , However I have the following failures: front air suspension replaced with sincere , water pomp replaced twice , radiator pipes in the back of the engine replaced, back gate electric door James and repair. Thats it. no gear flush no dif. oil flush or change now it runes like new and i love it. Thanks Simon
Sound like you have got one of the good ones. The Petrol engine is definitely the way to go to keep the expences down over time. The diesel engine has some really expensive components that could fail. It is fun to hear from owners that has had the car from new, really the best ones to say how the car has been. I guess there is not too much rust down there in that climate? Thanks for watching Fareed! Best, Simon
The fact than you've owned it and loved it tells us all we need to know. As for the 'haters' and green eyed monsters who've never owned one. 😂😂😂😂😂
You know it's real love when it/she knows which buttons to press. 🙂👍 There is definitely something special about the green lable..
Awesome vehicle and great update. A fair bit of the maintenance you have completed would be normal for any vehicle used in harsh environments, but a few Disco specific items too! You may do this, but just suggesting a brake fluid flush every 2nd year would extend life of callipers and other hydraulic components.
Hey and thank you so much. I have been thinking about a brake fluid flush because I don't know when it was last done. I have bleed out the system 3-5 times in the period of 7 years so it have been "refreshed" a bit. But this is really something many forget about, me as well, because if it works, it works. Don't know a easy way to do it as I don't have pressure pump but maybe get a garage to do it for me. Maybe not too expensive.
@@LandRoverDrive easiest way is just to pump the brake pedal while opening the caliper bleeding screw. One corner at the time. But recuires two people. :)
My Patrol Y61 dates from 1999 and had a couple of though periods in the Icelandic interior. Never failed. A couple of years ago I met two Aussies with an Y60, they travelled throughout the American continent and wanted to go through Africa, no problems. When the glowing plugs failed they warmed them up with boiling water. This, together with Toyota is reliability.
I would not argue with anything of what you have just said. Patrol, would never go against that offroad, beast of a car. And you can't argue with the reliability of a Toyota, even though they got their own issues too. 😁
It's what you'd call a hobby vehicle - assuming vehicle repairing is your hobby. Great review!
Thanks! Yeah, I like fixing stuff for sure. A great feeling when something is broken and you can fix it your self. I also feel that it's part of being a overlander or a off-roader, as you get to know your vehicle and will be able to fix it on the tracks your self. Or more likely to. 🙂
Okay lets play fault-bingo and write the number of faults you have had from my list at the end. 🙂👍 This is going to be exciting.
Bingo!!
How long do you plan on keeping this vehicle?
Amazing, how many repairs you had. It proofes again to not buy one of them, a shame. I like the look quiet alot.
I missed handbrake module change and instead left front wheel bearing I chnaged the right :D All other and some more I have changed when driving from 180000km to 490000km. Worst thing was rotten sides under the plastic trims at front of rear wheels. In future I will remove ALL plastic trims every second year and wash & rust protect all areas.
Suspension compressor. Check.
Brake light. Check
Brake rotors. Check
Gear box flush: Check
Would I have another disco 3. Check
Thanks for the in-depth review and shared experience...i had been wanting to hear from other D3 owners who have had the car for extended period to hear their experiences and with the handling of the car and am glad you have pretty much summed up what i was curious about. i own a D3 as well, second hand am begging to feel the pitch of the repairs ; its past three years now and have had to deal with air suspension and steering rack and other items ...
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. There are a few bits that can go wrong but feel that is for every vehicle I have own. I haven’t have a issue with the steering rack yet, how did you know it had failed?
Brilliant! I love it when someone views the L319 in the same light as me.
Thanks Inky, I think we have the same views in general when it comes to Land Rovers. We look at them in a real and open minded way and not in black or white way / love or hate way. 😊 I remember watching your Defender video where I was agreeing and nodding along the complete film. 👍 The D3 is and amazing car in so many ways, with it's charm-like failure points, but we know of them and can threat them, and so it will drive on flawlessly for so many miles. 👍 Passed 9 years of ownership this spring and it's still running great. 😅 I think rust will be it doom with all the road salt we see here in Norway. Best, Simon.
I’m looking at a D4, good honest review and nothing really unexpected from my research. I already own an ex Australian Army Perentie so the next logical step is a Discovery. Thanks Paul.🇦🇺
Perenties are really cool. Seen only 2 or 3 up here in Norway. Thanks for the feedback and if you go for a D4 check out some post about it on disco forums. I think I read that the 2013 model is the best model of them. I don’t know the D4 as well as the D3, but think there is a On my way! Engine issues happening more often with ore 2013 models.
My discovery 3 tdv6 2008 has been kind to me it’s the Basic model with manual transmission “less to go wrong”and still going strong and yeah I do all my own work on it keeping my fingers crossed 🤞🇬🇧
After owning the car for a while, I think the basic version, with cruise control, maybe SE not S, with no sunroof, a manual gearbox and the rear locker is the perfect combo to get. We drive for so long that I love having that cruise control. 🙂🙂 Wish you the best of luck with your Disco, we all need it. Simon
Excellent video.very informative. I'm 3 yrs into owning my 2007 tdv6 hse.170,000 miles.repair bill is £1500 and climbing. But love my D3. So practical.
Thank you. Yeah, the bill is climbing here as well but hopefully it won't be to bad for the upcoming years. One gearbox flush in Norway is about 1500. Why I need to do most of the work my self. 😅
What a genuine nice guy. Spot on review & very similar replacement of parts as my Discovery 3. I have the V8 with rear lockers & owned for nearly 9 years now & like yourself absolutely love these machines. Looking at the terrain you guys have there it is very similar to my home land Wales. Great for testing these machines out. Good luck, I hope your Discovery lasts many more years of loyal service for you.
Thank you so much! Will take that to my heart. I try to make this a channel a good and positive place for everyone. Keeping the stresss levels down and enjoying sharing the love of cars, overland and camping with others. I heard great things about the scenery in Wales and lastly from my mother just a week ago, she really wants to go there for a visit. I hope to come over at some point and go overlanding but not sure exacly when or where yet. I'm really jealous of that V8 and rear locker, would have been nice to have, not that I'm driving to hard off road but you can take it a bit slower over the rough parts with that locker. I wish you also the best of luck with your LR3 and hope you can go on many great trips! 👍🙂
@@LandRoverDrive well if you ever need any help from the other side just drop me a message & I would gladly help & direct with your possible visit. As for overland in Wales there is plenty to choose from. One being a place called Strata Florida Wales. Check it out on you tube. Also look up a the Brecon Beacons. Happy new year to you & your family.
I have a 2008 HSE. Forever spending money on it but god help me I freaking love the car!
It’s a love hate relationship for sure! 😊😊 But mostly love, can’t beat the feeling of driving the Disco. 👌
land rover should pay you money for this, this is the 1st time i actually considered buying it :)
Haha, I wish they would. 😊 And thanks, I’ll take that as a compliment. 👍😊
A great video! I've got the LR4 and heading to 200K mark now. Here in South Africa, we don't have the corrosion issues you have! I've travelled to Botswana a few times, and the Disco handles dust magnificently! However, the corrugations that build upon dirt roads have rattled the electronics a bit - the wire looms especially (friction ware).
Hie Stanford, what has your experience with your LR4 been? Looking to get one as a family car (Based in JHB). Been eyeing some V8s with comparatively low mileage (sub 150k).
@@tendailuwo6718 Hey Tendai. I've got the 3l diesel S3 - entry-level. Have got a warning light with the air compressor for raising the suspension for 4x4 mode. However, the compressor works fine so I ignore it! It's a magic 'family' car! Nice and safe when you are eye-balling a taxi ;-) I love mine.
Thank you Stanford! The LR4 is great, it really looks the part for a Discovery. I have seen some videos from South Africa and just wow, the overland possibilities down there looks amazing. I can only imagine the corrugations, we only get a small bit on our dirt roads here so the electronic friction ware haven't been a problem, so far. 😅 I know there is one know broken wire in the passenger footwell but can't think of what the fault was on the spot. Thanks again and thank you for sharing. Best, Simon.
@@StanforddeJong Hahaha what's Joburg without a few taxi's to keep you on your toes in traffic. Thanks. Looking forward to joining the Landie fam soon
@@tendailuwo6718 It's a comfortable family, Tendai - so enjoy it!
Hello from the UK, Great videos which will be helpful in maintaining my 2006 LR3, thanks 👍👍
Hello back from Norway. Happy the video could/can be of help. 👍😊
Even with it's sometimes pain in the butt gremlins the Land Rover Discovery 3 is a awesome SUV. I own the D3 SE V8 and I love it.
Yeah, it's a love hate relationship I guess. I have been lucky but also changing out parts before it breaks. I hope to drive it for a long time. :)
This excellent summary (along with various others on YT about these cars) confirms that if you want to keep one of these types of LR vehicles over big mileages, you *HAVE* to do most of your own maintenance and repairs otherwise it is not an economically attractive proposition at all. They obviously still hold a huge amount of appeal for many drivers due to their enduring off-road abilities, comfort and practicality. You just need to be realistic about the logisitics of looking after it.
Thank you so much and yeah, there are a bunch of videos out there but I haven't seen one like this so that's why I made it like I did. I'm sharing my experiences as I go along. And so true what you say, it's not for everyone but it's really a great car if you can handle the maintainance your self. Don't forget the 3.5 ton towing capability, a big factor for many who can use them as work horses too. 👍🙂 It's really a great all round car.
@@LandRoverDrive I use mine mainly for my big trailer as I say my wife uses it every day for work. She has the annoying habit of not putting any fuel in so I’ve had to change the fuel filter more than I should have to. She says ‘ a fill up with fuel is the same as a new pair of shoes, no contest’, I rest my case!
@@stuartbroadhurst7523 Hehehe, shoes vs fuel, strange how we can be so different.
One tanke of fuel is a whole lot of km with freedom to go anywhere. 🏔🚗
My wife drive the Nissan Leaf so I can only blame my self if the car dosen't have any fuel in it. 😊
Love the video, never touched anything on my Toyota Sienna until 180,000 miles (that’s around 300,000km) other than oil change. The first thing that went was one of the wheel hub bearings. That car was a work house. That was the second Toyota I owned. Then I sold the car and now I am on the EU side looking at LRD’s. Toyotas (all Asian cars) are hard to find and parts have to be imported. Toyotas and Hondas are a US market cars, forget it here. LRD’s is probably the best you can get (Cost, Parts and Service).
Sounds like a car I would have liked to have owned. 300k km and just oil changes. 👌 Toyota seams to be a bit bigger in the States, Toyota is quite common here in Norway, but it's only the tiny versions. 😂 No taco owners that I know of here. Parts from the UK is a good options and what I usually do if I have planned it right. Looking at any particular Land Rover ?
I have an LR3 2005, no DPF, I’ve replaced the EGR valves, front wheel bearings & ball joints, turbo, EPB rebuild lasted 30miles before playing up, fuel tank guard/strap, rear prop shaft, a few rear PDC, front diff oil, center diff oil, rear diff oil & half shaft seals, manual gear box oil, removed all parts & blasted the underside to bare metal using Buzzweld products, I’ve replaced all discs & pads at some point and quite a few oil & filter changes, brake callipers, spare wheel winch, battery, defo need deep pockets I only keep it cos I’ve a big dog, I’ve now bought a GAP Diagnostics tool to make things easier, I’ve 136000miles & bought the LR around 7 years ago with 107000miles.
That was a lot for 30k miles but should hold up for a while now I hope. If your not fixing it your self you sure need some deeper pockets. I could not afford that if I had to take it to a garage here in Norway. 😅 The room in the Discovery is unbeatable, the square space is just great and I'm so glad to have it as a family car. Has proven it's self over and over again when we go on longer trips.
I’ve had our 2008 d3 since 2011. UK spec eu4, no DPF. We’re heavy overlanders and been to 42 counties in our one. Have had many of the same issues. But we are still on the original brake calipers. And we have never been stranded. We did replace a high pressure fuel pump. But that was a bad diagnosis from a main dealership. Otherwise it’s been very reliable. We have had to replace a torque converter though.
42 countries.... That's insane. I can only dream of that many. It's good to hear from others that has that much experience cause it gives me confidence in the fact that building up the Discovery as my main overlander is a good idea. 👍🙂 Torque converter is on my worst case list. Quite expensive to get done over here in Norway. Thank you for sharing and giving me something to aim for. 42 countries... hehe, mine has been in 2. 😅 Simon.
I was a bit Landrover fan, had three Discoverys - the last one exactly the same as yours. I got rid of it after I realised it was costing me $AUD 6-7K per annum in servicing and repairs. Since then I've had a number of fords and now a Mitsubishi Pajero Sport. The disco 3 was amazing off-road, comfortable and the interior etc was the best. I just never realised spending $6-7k per annum on servicing was not normal. Now $600 for a service, under $1,200 per yer, and nothing breaks!
True but Mitsubishi ,wife has one, is not a good drive suspension is that bad oil coolers went on ours they wanted 400 for new one , had to go second hand but has been very reliable
@@garypeatling7927 also - the Mitsubishi parts are SOOOO much cheaper than Land Rover...
Yeah, it can cost you a lot if you don't work on it your self. The services her in Norway are really expensive as well so I started doing them my self after gettign to 170k km. It's all down to what you want to do and what you want to spend your money. As I usally say, it does not matter the car, just get out there overlanding. We are all car guys and just happen to land on a favorite brand. 🙂 I'm just stuck in with Land Rover because of it's amazing history and the LR community, it is really something else. 👍🙂 Wish you the best with you Pajero! Simon.
If you order from the UK the parts are not that expensive. And for non critical parts you can get third party suppliers. Not sure the cost down under but it's probably a bit cheaper to get it over to Norway. 🙂
If one can do most of the servicing themselves it will cut down the cost of owning the vehicle.
I just found your channel, and got a 2015 D4 no locker too, happy to now that even in your weather conditions it's doing good. Also I really love the way you are doing this video. And adding soo much beautiful landscapes 👍🏻🤩
Hey and thank you so much! Sorry for the late reply but been hectic, just home from another weekend trip with the guys. 🏔️😊 I never missed the locker for what we do. Would I have liked to have had it, sure, would it have failed on me in the 10 years I have owned the car, definitely. So money saved for a part I don't really need. Maxtrax will do me fine, and I have only needed them once. 😂 Thanks again for the kind words, much mor to come.
I had the discovery 3 ...also 2007 model here in South Africa for 4 years. I do most mechanical work.myself and I know an expert level LR certified technician.
My experience was that LR is cheaper used as it is horrendously experience to maintain and unreliable. Worst is when you have a problem that even LR head office in UK can't resolve.
I loved the ride...best in the industry but ride is nothing without reliability.
If you can't own it from new with factory maintenance plan than rather buy Land Cruiser.
I sold my LR for a Land Cruiser Prado and could not be happier. Cost effective to run and maintain. Reliability is best in industry. Parts cheap. Work horses of note. They keep going and not sensitive service delays....amazing vehicle.
Toyota is world leader in 4x4 vehicles for a reason. LR CEO recently (2021) went on record and news to admit to the companies 2 decades of unreliability. He vowed to get this sorted..
Nice review but I did the same as you....saved on the purchase price upfront and paid all that saving and more on the maintenance.
I should have got the Land Cruiser Prado from the start. Toyota keep there value globally for this reason. LR has alot to learn from Toyota.
There is a lot of thruth in what you say and I definetly don't think you made bad choice. I wouldn't mind owning a Toyota but my first love is definetely Land Rover, it's just something about the history. I think I would go for a cruiser wagon of some sort with a Arctic truck build. They are insane. 🙂 By doing most of the work my self I have kept the cost down and over the years the list is not bad and many of the faults is to be expected. The value on the Discovery has hold up here in Norway as to there are not to many cars that can do what it can do. The Toyata prices are insane in Norway even on old trucks. 🙂 Wish you great trips in your Prado! Simon
Love your video. An honest review of your ownership . Your crank will not fail so long as oil changes are kept at regular intervals . No risk of oil dilution I do mine every 5000 miles . When you change your belt , change out the oil pump too. Oil pressure is perfect with no loss in pressure . Plus if you are still running the original pump . The design was updated with a reinforced casing. Fixing an issue which killed a lot of 2.7 's . Best of luck keep them coming .
Hey and thank you so much. I am planning to change the oil pump next year with togheter with the next timing belt change. I knew about the casing failure, but your point about oil pressure is a good one and I have not thought about it as a reason for changing it out. Great tip. I will aim to take the 2.7 to 300k km so a new oil pump won't hurt. 👍🙂 Thanks again and I will definitely keep on making videos. 🙂 Simon
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Thank you , Personally I believe in prevention being the best cure. My next list job is gearbox . I've 64k on mine . Im having a full operation pressure ,fluid change on the gearbox . With upwards of 95% fluid replaced first time . Its a different way of changing the fluid . Opposed to straight forward flushing or super flushing . Which achieves 50- 60 % at best. Which can transfere rubbish into components causing other problems your trying to bypass in first place . For a couple of hundred pounds . Its better than a couple of thousand down the line for a new box . Best of luck and keep them coming.
L/Rovers have and always will take a bashing from folk that either have not had one or had one and just simply abused them All cars have their faults do they not I am either
very lucky or just look after my cars either way have had 2 x 2 door range rovers still have one 37 years on NO PROBLEM 1 four door NO PROBLEM 90 Defender 300k miles NO PROBLEM
I now drive an L322 R/Rover had it 6 years NO PROBLEM I think the Land cruiser is a fantastic car so not biast in anyway I would have one tom !!! I like your honest review I personaly
thought these were a bit of a dog but changed my mind !! the only thing I have never done is flushed the gearbox oil change yes but never flush been advised by many its not a
good thing to do unless the car has been flushed regularly from new and since they say the gearbox oil does not need changing it does not happen !!
Totally agree with all cars have their issues. 🙂 2 door is a beauty and I wish I could own one at some point. I think it is as you say, if you take care of the cars they will take care of you. I think with LR you maybe need to be a bit more preventive but then you know it won't do you wrong and break down. 👍 I also like the Cruisers and don't hate on any brand for that matter. As I say, we are all car people, we just happend to land on a favorite brand. 🙂 I aiming to flush the gearbox every 100k km from the first flush at 160k km. I hope this will be enough to save it and the converter. Everything on this channel is honest, just a regular car guy who likes his cars and who likes to make videos. Thank you! Best, Simon.
Great video showing the list of repair over the period of your ownership. I am going to purchase one in around 10 months time and intend to carry out most of the repairs myself. I am studying the vehicle's mechanics, the way it is put together first, tools required, ease of accessibility to the faulty areas and cost of parts etc. I use to take my BMW 1000 RS Box Twin motorcycle apart, repair and service it myself. Only major Jobs I would source to a qualified and reputable mechanic. Once one is use to servicing and repairing a vehicle it is a piece of cake. Some jobs may be difficult like removing stuck glow plugs, but most of the jobs should be pretty straight forward. A good service and regular maintenance will reduce breakdowns. Despite the high MPG fuel consumption of the 4.4V8, I may go for it instead of the diesel. Thanks for sharing your awesome video and love the video capture and editing. I am studying filmmaking myself so notice it when I see a good video with great editing. You tell a story very well. Thanks for sharing Subscribed
Thanks for posting, interesting , great scenery too
You are more then welcome and thanks for letting me know. 🙂 Scenery is great and loads of more videos from Norway on the channel. 👍
I was hesitant to buy LR as I was told they have much issues, but after watching your video, I’d like to buy one.
I think it’s about finding the right one and finding a good one. Do proper research and don’t stress to find a car. Do a proper inspection and you can have a good car for years if you take care of it. 👍😊
I've had most of these wear and tear items , but not the corrosion stuff as there is no salting in the tropics . Mine is the petrol , which hasn't been a problem at all . Excellent report Simon :-)
Thank you and no salting sounds like heaven. 🙂🙂V8 and tropics sounds so great in my ears. So different from my situation her in Norway and my Diesel. As you say, many wear and tear items that is espected with every car that is this old except for the air suspension components. Glad you liked the video and thank you for letting me know. Enjoy the tropics and that V8. 😉 Simon
Great video, I've had a Discovery 3 for the same time as you and done almost all of the same work - great channel, thank-you for making the videos.
Hey and happy new year! And thank you so much, it is always great to read a comment like this, makes creating videos worth while. 😊 Best, Simon
Over seven years of ownership it's pretty good. People forget how heavy these cars are. You know brakes will get worn and bushings will get punished. This is the price you pay for a beautifully riding car that is unstoppable off road. You could get a Land Cruiser but that's like driving a bag of cement with an engine from a canal boat (not the V8 I might add).
Hehe, bag of cement, the old ones are a bit tractor-like boxes. 😂 The weight is definitely an factor and the car being a bit more complex than the similar range LC. The V8 series Land Cruisers I would love to try out som day, I would think they would be a nice option if I could't drive a LR. 😊
My 2008 LR3 has had a similar run of faults and has similar mileage - but I love it.
I have come from two defenders and a Toyota hilux - loved each of those vehicles, no issues with any of them but cannot match the class and comfort of the Disco. Particularly now with a small family (we have the 7 seater). I don’t think anything does the Offroad/beach driving on the weekend and Corporate Class by week combo any better. Mines been well looked after and hope to keep it for a very long time - faults and all 😀
Yeah, exactly. It can do it all, almost, and with a family of four it has been the perfect fit. Safe car, a lot of space and a great drive on those longer trips. WIsh you the best of luck with your Disco. I do wish I had that V8, seems to be the best engine option if you don't look at how thirsty it is. 🙂🙂
Hei Simon , I enjoying 2 years with my LR3 2006 modell almost 200.000 km now and a lot emotions roads to the future yet . hilsen fra Sandnes Rogaland ! thanks for this video . 🙌🏼🇳🇴
Great to hear! 👍🙂 I hope you get a lot of great trips in it. I hope to do many with mine aswell and possible to Rogaland at some point. 🙂
Great to see a car like this really used the way it was intended. Btw, your cinematography is incredible! Hopefully I make it to Sweden one day, loos beautiful!
Thannk you so much, reall appreciate that! North of Sweeden over the mountains is really beautiful during the winter. But Norway is a step up when it comes to great views all year round. 🙂
Been a fan of your since you first started. Your sound tracks and filming have improved leaps and bounds. Glad to see you are still a LR fan too.
Hey man, that is really great to hear. I worked hard on this one and it took a long time finding all the raw materials. I try to impove for every video, a bit hard with the mechanical ones, not so general interesting. But should be better and better. Starting on overland build series as soon as the reset series is done so there is a lot of nice videos to come. And LR will always have a special place in my heart. 😉👍
That’s an impressive list of things that you’ve handled on your own.
Thank you Rick! I try to do most of the work my self to learn and to save cost. 👍😊
Imagine if these had the same reliability as a Toyota. The Land Rover would be an absolute must buy. It's a beautiful machine that is both applauded and also let down by its own reputation
I wish that were the fact! 🤗 There are good and bad models and the D3 is on of the good ones if you take care of it of course. Would have been fun to see one with solid axels and less electronics because the looks is like no other in my head. 👌
excellent long term review!!!!! that parts list was short for overlanding it regularly.
Thanks man, appreciate it. 🤙😊 It’s been on some long trips but never anything to rough yet. 😊 Hope to do more off-road driving next year. 👍
Great video, very well edited and interesting!
Mine is the 2007 HSE but only had it 2 years so some things probably changed before I bought it. I replaced all 4 air struts as front passenger side had a leak. (They were all date stamped 2007 original struts) So decided to change all 4.
Compressor looks like it may have been changed already.
Air tank changed,
I replaced the rear prop shaft as centre bearing bushing was completely worn. Front prop shaft (Had some play) Discs, calipers and flexi hoses Front and rear also rear copper brake pipes. Front upper and lower suspension arms, Rear upper and lower suspension arms, Front ARB bushes swapped out for poly bushes as they were very worn, Rear ARB bushes swapped for poly bushes, Rear toe arms, Rear drop links, Front drop links, New battery, New drivers side door seal was worn from someone scuffing against it when getting in, New rear brake shoe backing plate and bearing drivers side, New window rubber trim outside lower edges of glass on 2 of the doors (The rubber had bubbled up)
New windscreen plastic scuttle (Plastics all faded) New heated washer jet passenger side. Engine oil changed 3 times, gearbox oil changed twice, brake fluid, engine coolant, diff and transfer box oils changed, power steering fluid changed.
I realise some of the things I changed didn't need changing at the time, but I wanted to keep it as reliable as possible.
Aircon doesn't work after replaced pipes and replaced blend motor, still trying to get it working.
There is probably lots more that was replaced but I've forgotten about. The Discovery 3/4 isn't for the faint hearted and it's a love hate relationship for me, but mostly love or I think it'd be gone by now 😂
What a machine though 😊👍
Love the detailed list. See there are some things I need to do. Have the bubling on the window lists, I have not changed the front prop, maybe time. Front brake hoses are in the garage waiting. 🙂 All struts, I think I will do all four when I going to do mine as well. I have a tiny leak or a bad height sensor so need to figure that out. Seems like you have yours pretty much sorted and in good shape. And yeah, it is a love hate thing. I think the solution to the heater matrix is to change out the whole unit. Was someone who mentioned that to me, maybe in the other video, not sure. But his solution was a new complete unit I think. 🤔 I'm just glad I'm over the hump and can finally start planning some fun modifications. 👍
And thank you! Glad you liked the video. 🙂🙂
Hey, it’s great to question how to fix and the parts to use. That said, I still believe that, for the average owner, it will be much easier just to change the prop. And I recommend using either original or oem only for critical parts like the center prop shaft. For engine parts I only use original or better. 👍 But do some research on the parts if your not sure about the quality. For easy to change parts you can buy cheaper and switch more often. Personally I want to be out driving so I spend a bit more to get quality parts. 😊
With everything being from original production date I would change the compost struts with oem or originals. Then I would know it would last about the same time they have until they failed. So for mine that would be 13-15 years. Then you don’t have to go back and do the procedure again. 👍😊 But that’s my way, we all have different angles of attack. I’m guessing I have to change mine in the next 2 years.
Hi Simon, Really really like this video. The scenery, the story, the vehicle and the presenter all great.I have been a big LR fan for 20 yrs and find them to be great tools. They need to go to homes where the owner wants a tool rather than just a car as they need plenty of pro-active maintenance. But they are Gggggggrrrrrrreat !!
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for letting me know. I do my best to make it usefull and entertaining at the same time. There will be a lot more great scenery to come and loads of videos on the Discovery so stay tuned. And yeah, they are really great. 👍🙂
I have a 2006 LR3 SE V8 with HD package. Bought it new in 2007 and now I have 230,000 miles on it. Hood latch and rear cargo door latch broke once. I repaired them as shown on TH-cam. Then the electronic parking brake wore out and I had a shop repair it at 200,000 miles. Changed spark plugs twice and I clean the mass air flow sensor and change air cleaner every year. Also changed the little “T” fitting in the coolant hose before it broke (see TH-cam). Regular fluid changes at intervals shorter than manufacturers requirements. Keep the truck from over heating and getting low on oil and it will run a long time. Now however, the A pillar covers are loose and leak water and the sunroof hoses broke and leak water into the cabin so I bought all the parts and will fix as shown on TH-cam. I still trust the truck on desert excursions. LR3 weighs 5,000+ pounds empty so I run light truck tires on it (BF Goodrich All Terrain LT 265/60-18). A modest size but strong enough for my off road loading. Don’t let dealers sell you anything less. A great truck with lots of road trip memories but you should have mechanical abilities to reduce costs. Oh, the air suspension has never given me any problems except to replace the pump once. And because of the truck’s weight suspension bushings wear out. Over my 15 years of operating this truck the leaking sunroof is the most annoying and serious problem.
Thanks for sharing - A really nice overview of your ownership. I haven't gotten the sunroof leak yet so I'm up for a wet surprise soon. 😅 I also have gone for a higher load rating now on my new tires and will show that in a video soon.
All in all: Nothing out of the ordinary for such a heavy car.
I think the only actual issue is the electronic handbrake... I am going to service it next week =D
👍😊 Think so as well. Still running nice and I’m still putting maintenance and pre failure work into it. 👍 My goal is to keep it running until it rusts away or the emissions laws kicks it out of Norway. 😂 Best of luck with the service, I need to do a service this spring on mine. 😊
21:50 great point. These are heavy cars like Land Cruisers or Nissan Patrols and they have their issues too. Especially the Toyota’s with their Common Fail Diesels. I think your list was mostly normal wear and tear items aside from a few LR specific items, especially in a climate where roads are salted and rust is a constant problem.
It’s a really nice looking car, great colour and interior trim combination.
Greeting from Oz.
Thank you Mark and yeah, all cars, like people, have their issues. 🙂 I think the list is okay and for the age it's not bad. I guess it all comes to the point if you can fix most of the stuff your self to keep the cost down. I do think fixing your own car, or most of it, is great as you know how it works and you could more likely fix it out on the tracks if something were to fail. 🙂 Best, Simon.
@@LandRoverDrive I agree, it seems done people expect to do very little to keep a car running and as a Toyota Camry owner (😬) I think this is not unrealistic in some cases. I also have an old BMW E34 wagon...it’s a source of constant maintenance. A discovery 3 is the next thing I want to get so I really appreciate the efforts people like you put into creating videos that are realistic. I’m very tempted by a V8 SE that is for sale near me. Maybe. Maybe. It all depends on finances. 🤔🙄
@@markmcgrath9098 Thanks, appreciate that a lot. 👍 SE V8 is a great choice. If I could change mine I would get a V8 SE without a sunroof and with the rear locker if possible.
@@LandRoverDrive yes, in Oz we have to comply with the manufacturer’s GVM or risk being fined for over loading the car. The SE is about 250kg less than HSE meaning you can take more stuff! All that glass in the roof is a bad idea for places with hot summers.
@@markmcgrath9098 I wish mine was without the glass roof and a sunroof for sure, but here the problem is constant wet, snow and ice.
I have had a LR 90 pickup 2 1/4 petrol, a V8 Range Rover and then a LR defender 300tdi CSW and tbh they weren’t that expensive to run and I used them daily. Looking at a D3 auto and doing my research. I tend to do as much as I can myself so that helps. Lots of support and after market parts that helps. Very similar support network to VW.
You got a very nice selection there. Doing the work your selves saves a ton and I try to do most of the work my self. I did do the services at the dealer before 200k km to keep the value up if I were to sell it, but at 200k km I figured I'm never going to sell it and I'm going to see how far I can drive it before the next stop is the scrappers. 😊 And until now I have let the mechanic handle the major engine work and gearbox flush. I also let them do the front lower control arm because of the sized bolt issues. Other than that I have done all of the work my self and definitely the only way I could have afforded owning this car in Norway. I also order all the parts from the UK, it's about a 10th of the price from the dealer here in Norway. I thinking of driving over to the UK on a vacation trip/overlanding trip and get the turbo, crossover pipe and maybe the injectors, I think the work and parts cost saved would pay for the rest of the vacation. 😂
Hi , nice to see you can keep on top of the maintenance and your family enjoy it . Thanks for the stunning video .
Thank you for the nice comment! 🤗 Glad you like the video. We enjoy the car a lot and I'm currently sitting up in Sweden after a 500km drive and writing back to you! 🏔👍
Have my 2008 Disco 3 SE V8 10 years now and even with it's sometimes pain in the butt gremlins I love ❤️ it, 98+K miles on it and counting.
Cheers 🍻 🇺🇸
Love to hate and hate to love 😂 3 years since this was made and I still have it, so also coming up on 10 years. I think it's now in februar. 2. sec, check. Yep, 25.03.2013 is the 10 year anniversary. 🤙 238 000 km so about 148000 miles and running without issues. Would love that V8 though, can only imagine the torque on that thing. Well, maybe in the next one. 😅 Best, Simon
Have owned many 4x4 trucks and suvs .3 Toyota land cruisers, Mitsubishi Montero SR, Volkswagen Touareg V8, 2 Toyota pick ups, and now my favorite 2005 lr3 hse 220,000 miles 4.4 v8 locking rear differential. Just love air suspension .no check engine light but I did blow up transfer case pushing the limits. Loves sand dunes at Glamis. Pip pip
4.4 V8, I dream of that sound every night. 👌👌 Yeah the ride on the lr3/d3 is hard to beat. Once you go air it’s definitely hard to go back. Riding in dunes looks like so much fun and it’s on my bucket list of thing I would like to do in a 4x4. 😊 Best, Simon.
My Disco 4 was a gem until I took it off-road. If you’re going to stick to asphalt, these are great and comfortable vehicles.
I don't think they are for super hardcore offroad, but overlanding and light offroad is a perfect fit. Hard to find a car that can do what the Discovery can by default. 🙂
Very fair assessment. Not the usual horror movie!
Hehe, no, the stories can keep you up at night. 😁 I have come to the conclusion that you can be both luck and unlucky but you can't get away from that a good service plan makes the car better and more reliable in the end. 🤓 Thanks for watching! 👍😁
I had the similar problem with the FBH. Electronics was caputt. If kind worked 1st time after resetting the fbh errors, then got an error and next time didnät start. Even changed the burn chamber before we found out it was the "brain". Bought a used one off ebay and it worked. Now I have an extra new burn-chamber waiting for old one to fail. Installed Altox fbh controller too. It's fantastic.
Pretty much the same as me. Need that Altox though for those really cold days overlanding. 🙂
Applaud your workmanship. Subscribed.
Thank you! Much appreciated. 🤗🤗
Hi , the fun of driving a LR ,great work and have fun .😉
Hehe, yeah, it’s sure is part of the fun of owning a LR. Sometimes a bit frustrating but fun when you have fixed it your self. 👍😊
Great video thanks. I have had a Disco 3 for 9 years now and will do a video soon too
Thank you so much! 9 years, nice, know the car well then. Coming up on nine years in February my self. 👍😊 Will be fun to see what you have had to deal with on yours. 🤔
What a well made video, thanks a lot!!
Thank you David! Very much appreciated. 👍😊 Simon
Enjoyed that presentation mate well done , very informative.
Thank you Damian! 👍😊 Always grateful to get such positive feedback! 😊 Simon
i love land rovers, i came for that, but now i love Norway and want to move there!
Hehe, glad you liked the views. A lot more on the channel and a lot more coming. 🙂👍
I have a disco3 that has been family owned since new. It has covered 203,000k now. The list of repairs are similar. The vehicle is pleasant to drive and performs well. I would like to get some 17" wheels for better tyre options and increased bump absorption. I think the electric handbrake is a bad idea when a manual type is more reliable and appropriate in a 4wd imo. Overall a well designed and built vehicle. Mine now has a reusable metal gearbox sump pan to replace the disposable plastic one for gearbox servicing. I think a basic spec disco3 with coil suspension, manual gearbox, manual handbrake and minimal electronics would potentially be cheaper and easier to maintain while still delivering similar driving pleasure but it's obvious that landrover were aiming at the luxury market even though they already had the range rover.
Owned since new, that is very cool. I just passed 10 years with mine on Sunday. 17" wheels are good, I have a video on it on my channel where I refurbish old originals and put on some slightly bigger tires -> th-cam.com/video/eGKExC2tiC8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=d7OdgsNQ0nGjuRTZ - I also would love manual handbrake but if you service your brakes there should never be an issue with the electric one, and when it works it works really well, not like a land cruiser. 😊 I would say the automatic gearbox is better than the manual one, if you flush the gearbox at 150k km and every 100k km after that it should be good for many years. With the manual you would have to change out the clutch at some point and not sure that is better. Also the turbo tends to seize on the manual ones as it doesn't get the reves it needs to open. I think the autobox is really good, if it was a bad one I would love to have the manual, also the autobox is great for offroad, super control. Off-road video -> th-cam.com/video/_n8h4n8QPx0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=38cQvnXUtN9v-z3I I Wish you the best of luck with you Disco and I hope you find those 17" wheels. Simon
Good illustration of why Land Rover doesn't bother spending money on r & d to make their cars more durable /reliable, people buy them anyway. 200k isn't all that much, just about everything fell apart but it's 'not too bad'.
Hehe, it's like Windows, users do all the testing. 😂😂 But yeah, I guess it all comes down to each owner. 200k is just the first goal, aiming for 300k now. Don't think we will see old Hilux numbers but good to have something to aim for. 😅
We love ours 2007 v6 2.7 GS but I do all the service myself it’s done 97 k miles. Timing belt etc I did myself. So not too expensive. Prop shaft done new EGR Valves £45 per side. My wife uses it every day and I use it for pulling my big trailer. Alternator done and belt tensioner done all myself. Only ever gone into garage for mot.
Sounds like mine and my rutine, except for timing belts, I haven't dared to tackle that one yet. The only way I could afford owning this car was to do most of the work my self, and happy I have done so because I have learned so much. And I love it, trusted family and overland rig for 10 years no. 🤙
I'm at 249100km and getting close to that 250k km mark. After that I can't complain if the engine blows up or it breaks in half. 😂
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@@LandRoverDrive yea I bought mine when it had 62 k on it knowing it had been sold as all its big issues would be coming up. I bought it as it was cheap but knew I’d have to do everything. First thing was new brakes all round then as I say I did the majors at 72 k. I didn’t’ want the HSE too much electrics and the sun roofs can be I nightmare we live on Orkney I’d heard they can leak into air blower. Stupid design in many ways also A post cover can come off which is a real pain. They let water in as well which can stop the blower and mine did it stopped the radio. You need a good tool set and I got a icar diagnostic for mine first thing. My wife loves it says she could never have anything else but we can’t afford a newer one so this will have to do. Better the devil you know I think.?
Great video. We are currently exploring around Hemsedal in an 18 year old Honda CRV, wishing it was a Land Rover ;-)
Thank you and the best of luck with your exploring. If it works and it takes you where you want it really dosn't matter. 👍🙂
Just picked up a 2005 V8 SE, as soon as I got it I’ve replaced all the coils and plugs, and trans service… Hoping I won’t have to do too much more in the future. Seems like a lot of the bigger issues are with the diesel. Suspension stuff at that age is expected I guess..
Yeah for sure, petrol is the safer bet in the long run. A lot of expensive components in the Diesel engine that will fail after a certain point. If I could I would have change it out with a V8 petrol SE with no sunroof and with the rear locker.
I only came across your videos this evening, but they’re brilliant so I’ll be watching more. I’m thinking of buying a Discovery 3 too but I’m in the Uk.
Hey and thank you for that. Happy hunting for a D3, spend a good time reading and you can find a lot on the Disco forum and facebook pages. A lot of things that is good to check out before buing. 👍🙂
Also, 7 years without any oil pump failure or crankshaft issue is very good.
yepp, crossing my fingers for another 7 years. 😅
thanks for answer - yesterday I bought my disco 3 :))
Congrats man! Which year and color did you end up with?
Thank you, great video
Thank you for letting me know! Much appreciated! 😊 Simon
I used poly bushes in my Discovery 4 yes its a little firmer and the steering is more direct. I like the Poly bushes
Hey, glad you were happy with your choice. I think it depends on what type of ride you prefer. With me I feel the softness is really great especially on dirt roads and the bumpy roads during winter and spring time. 🙂
Things like bushes will fail with time. My Ford Focus had new control arms at about 150,000 km for the same reason. It was an age ting, as it's about 15 years old. The same with CV boots and the like.
Basically, if you have an older Discovery, then the labour costs will hit hard, so if you can do your own work, it makes a huge difference.
Of course, living where you do, a lot of those age related failures have to be fixed before they get too bad or else it will fail the annual inspection. It's not like parts of the USA, where they often have no such annual test, and vehicles get often get driven until something fails badly.
Yeah, I'm glad we have the controls. I can be lazy too and they forces people to fix they car and keep them at a minimum level of safe. I can't imagine the dangers of cars not being tested at least every two years. A lot can go wrong in that time.
Great video, absolutely love that colour!
Thanks Bob. Yeah I love the colour too. It’s not to many of them either. 👌👌
thank you for your list, I want to buy some and now I know better where to look for ;)
Thank you for letting me know! Happy to help and good luck with your car hunts 👍😊
I sold my Pajero Sport and want buy something around 300.000kr... I was look on Land Cruiser 150 2010 and was very bad condition. All time in my mind I got Tundra. Next day I was look on Range Rover 4.2 supercharged 2007. When I sit inside... I never seen soo big different between cars. RR is really top level. But last week I see in my Town someone want sell Tundra. I decide to compared her to RR. And car was really good.... but
... For someone who not drive RRSC 😘
Hehe, comparing a RR and a LC interior is nothing but hilarious. 😂 But as a overland car the LC probably the safer bet if it’s not rusted through. The LC also cost a lot in Norway due to it popularity and reputation. I don’t know much about Tundra other than they look really cool. 👌 Going for a wagon and not a pickup?
i have had LR3 2006 for 3 years and now i have LR4 2013 and i can say there are both are amazing cars, LR3 showing 330 Km when i sale it and my LR4 now 240Km its solid and reliable car and if i gonna change it defiantly i will go to the new DISCO again
The D3/LR3 and D4/LR4 is hard to beat. I’m in the same boat, if something happens to mine I’m definitely going for another Disco. Would be fun to test out the V8 at some long. 👍😊
The joy of used car is fixing it regularly . Nothing will stop me to buy the Land Rover Discovery Land Mark 2016 model .
Very true. I also thing it’s a good whey to get to know your car, especially if you are going on longer trips. You know how to fix it if something would fail. 👍😊
Best video💪🏼 Thanks
Thank you and you are very welcome! 👍😊
Great video. Many thanks. Helpful to make up minds of people wanting to buy it 😂
I had a LR3 for 3 years. I bought the car 3yr old with 100.000km and drove additional 120.000km. The repaircosts alone were in the range of 15.000€, thus 5k€/yr + oil service, brakes, timing belt, etc. Glowplugs, Alternator, Parksensors, Air compressor, parking brake, fog lights, one front light (whole light, not just the bulb), windscreenwipers, broken turbo hose, crappy dealer experiences etc. all included. The car was driven on road and usually calmly because its not a racing car. In addition transmission was worn out, central locking, etc .... All together a crappy car. After the D3 i bought a BMW X5, also at 100tkm, and drove to 450.000km without major issues. Never again LR
Thats a lot, unlucky I would think. That's a thing with these cars, it all depends on the guy beforehand. 100k to 200k is also the most expensive part of the ownership. Now with 220k on mine I will start all over again I guess, belts, oil pump and water pump. But I'm glad to hear your x5 worked out, great looking cars and BMW is always a good drive. :)
@@LandRoverDrive I thought i was unlucky and the preowner also used it heavily for towing. But in Germany the towing limit for cars is 3.5t, the D3 is capable of towing much more. On the other hand, I found numerous articles about air compressor fails and parking brake fails at a certain milage range - and guess what: my failures happend exact in this range. So I would call it not a misuse but a bad design. The ultimate experience was a crack in the turbo hose - i found the exact crack in the internet, at the exact same spot with the same length. Usually autoparts come with a certain specification to the OEM - if they are designing the car in the wrong way and the part is misused by default, this would explain the other errors too. So to me it seems that LR is doing their work properly and the design is made in a way, that the car just reaches the 100.000km or 3yrs until the warranty ends, then it is your problem.
I’ve got my 1995 Land Rover discovery 300 TDI and it still going strong
Nice! I wouldn't mind having a 95 Disco my self. 👌 But two LR's will have to do for now, more on that soon. 😉 Best, Simon
No need for a rear difflock for normal overlanding or offroad use in Norway. Terrain response helps you out. :) if you'd had a rear locker you could probably add the locker motor to your list as well. They seez up due to lack of use... 😉
Great video. I dont think other vehicles at almost 3 tonn will have much less faults during 7 year or 100 to 200k.
Hehe, another thing on the list. 😂 Yeah, air locker maybe in the far future. I have a lot of other things I need and want first. Especially for our kind of overlanding and off-roading. 👍🙂 Thank you Erik and as always I'm looking forward to our next trip. 🤙🙂 I just hope it won't be too long before we can go. 😉
Simon, thanks for the review, nice to see how the car is being taken care off
Hey Olaus and thank you for watching and the kind words. I do my best with the Discovery but I'm going to step it up a bit from now on since I don't have to spend time on the Defender I sold just a few months ago. :) Starting #projectdiscovery and building it up as a overland rig. :) Simon
Sweden here! Realy nice video, great quality! Bought mine, hse 07 last autumn and ive done like half of those thingson your list, to be fair me and my girl been driving it upp and down sweden over 3000k's in less than a year. My parents has the same one but an 08 that ive been fixing for them.. IF they werent so nice to drive, tow stuff and go offroad all in one it would not be worth the hassle! Probably going to keep this till something major fails,, and have an a8 4.2 tdi as a main city car and for the summer roads and longer trips down into europe. The landy is perfect in the forest and to the winter cabin.
Me and my girl also have slept inours severaly times on smaler exursions, especially during covid getaways. Even my parent have camped in theirs! They are big! We use a 120cm inflatable bed, fits snugg! xD
Hey Marcus and Sweden, I just been over for 2 days in Västerbotten, at our winter paradice. Great to see it during the summer but a bit too much insects to be honest. But yeah, the D3 is a ready to go overland, off-road and family cars so it is one of the reasons for why it's worth having. And maybe also why it have more faults than a Hilux. Sound like you got it coverd when it comes to D3, I will also drive it until something to big comes along. I hope it won't happen in a long time, but who knows. 3000k in a year is enough but it really comes easily with the D3. I could drive for days in that car. And hopefully we can go for a overland trip to Sweden in the not to far future.
I have had a Honda CRV 2nd gen petrol for 6+ years. Never failed, but........Most suspension bits replaced. A couple of calipers. Back door won't lock. Replaced knock sensor. Now need new 02 sensor. Any old car will need bits replacing over the years. For 7 years this Disco far from being a nightmare is actually a bit of a myth-buster.
Hey Jonathan and thanks for sharing a honest review. 👍 As you say, all old cars need maintainance and a good plan for pro-active work if you want it to be safe and reliable on trups. Seems like you have control of your car and knows what's what, that's what I have learned while working on the car my self, you basically could predict what is next on the list. D3 is solid in many ways and have some issues that is not such a big deal if you manage them up front or right away. Thanks for watching and leaving a great comment. Best, Simon. 🙂
I am seriously considering buying one of those. I love the line and the vibes that come with it.
Besides the reliability issues, I am also a bit concerned about the fuel consumption, we would also use it in the city.
How do you think it compares to other cars in its category?
Hey Luca and sorry for the late reply! 😅
The lines on the car is beautiful and classic, you can see the lines from the old Range Rover Classic in this car, which is what I would call original Land Rover Design. 🚗👌
My 2008 Discovery 3, with the TDV6 Diesel, uses anything from 0.8L to 1L per 10km, but it stays there steady, no huge spikes, even if I go into town or pull a trailer. So I just calculate with 1L per 10km. Which is a bit but not bad considering the big car and the 2.7 to 3 tonn car.
There is no car that can compare to the D3 when it comes to how it is to drive it, how it feels to drive it. Riding on air is like nothing else, and since it is so squared, you have an overview like no other. It's not a sports car so you adjust the driving style to it but even though its big you can drive it a bit as it settles nicely in the corners.
I guess the Range Rover L322 would be an alternative, when it comes to nice rides, but you sacrifice a bit of utility and space. The box shape of the D3 gives you so much room and options in the back.
For the price you can't get anything similar I belive. The Porsche Cayenne is an alternative to ride quality and drive, I'm guessing a bitt better to drive. But again, no space compared to the Disco. The Land Cruiser is a tractor compared to the D3.
But, I would suggest putting up a list of the top 3-5 things you will be using your car for, that usually defines the car you should buy.
Mine was back in the day:1. Safe Family Car for longer trips 2. Daily Driver 3. Tow Trailer, house refurbish 4. Overland Build (Came 7 years later)
And final, life to short, buy what you look back at every time you park. The car that make you smile when you see it. But don't go beyond your financial limits, because you will hate the car.
Best, Simon.