''We have got here not by suppressing or pretending that race differences, language differences, culture differences do not exist, but that they can coexist without the majority obliterating oppressing the minority.......but by accepting the fact there are fundamental primeval differences and telling each other that we have to live, put up with each other, accommadate, comprimise '' I will remember these words for eternity
He agreed when he felt he was in agreement. Didn’t debate for the sake of sitting on the opposition bench. Real gentleman Mr Chiam. Singapore’s opposition has much to learn, from Mr Chiam’s measured responses. Not saying the current ones are not capable, but there’s a benchmark set by someone in our history that bears standards and should be looked up upon.
This is the smartest, result driven and focused individual in the world. He is the greatest man of his life-time, no one can touch him. I can't put into words what he has been to his nation and to the world. He loved his country and his people more than he loved himself. LKY the great, your results (which is Singapore itself) will echo throughout the world. Good man you were. I still don't understand why you had opposition.
@@justinolim1471 yes its because that guy didnt do his homework. what he is saying is nonsense. Not what the PAP of that time want..segregation. bEsides, you cant beat mr lee, a first class lawyer too....too bad for the other guy.
@@jessiejames7492 Mr Lee should atleast respect a person by allowing him to talk, he don't get a chance to talk how do u know he didn't do his homework. We as a outsider could see the video that no word come out of his mouth, Everytime he wanna talk mr Lee stop him. If we wanna judge weather a person did his job, the minimum we can do is give them a chance to speak, by not giving a person chance to speak how do u know his idea don't work, even mr chiam wanna talk also stop by Mr Lee saying he will get his team out, if anyone here was in mr chiam shoe would also remain quiet, but the Malay mp didn't bother n is the only one left willing to speak out was also stop by Mr Lee, I don't see anyone look like a pro lawyer outspoken anyone here but only Mr Lee keep stop them from talking u can see this video again if u see it only once to get a clear picture, but I guess u haven watch this video cos the thing u mention got nothing to do with the video like outspoken the mp or a pro lawyer, nothing at all
A man of strength, integrity , wisdom and compassion, we are indeed blessed to have been born and come of age under his leadership and care. This bunch of paper generals in the next generation of government are not qualified to lick his shoes.
I have always respected LKY becos of his real love for Singaporeans and Singapore. A great leader respected by world leaders thru out his political career. Even today he may have been gone but always remembered for how he and his team built a country that we all as Singaporeans are proud of! RIP Mr Lee...you are in a better place!
Mr Lee Kuan Yew is a race realist. He understands the reality that race plays a part in politics. This is not isolated in Singapore or Malaysia but also happens in other countries like USA.
@@RajaKumar-sj3et there's a difference between writing racially biased law and dealing with racial segregation on a social level. You can force people to offer equal education and employment opportunities, you cannot "assign" people to specific groups of "friends".
I have no affiliation whatsoever with any race in Singapore. But Mr. LEE Kuan Yew and his team of honourable men did a great job and they deserve respect. They took care of everyone and made great efforts to help the Singapore people.
Looking at people as Singaporeans and the good of Singaporeans rather then ethnic group brings unity and prosperity. When u are divided, u can be conquered.
Whooooa, greatest man of all time, eh? Whooaaaaa. He was SOOOO smart, SOOOO astute. He was the *GREATEST* nation-builder in the 100,000-year history of the human race. *WOW!!!!!!* You must be right, T@mil !
It is amazing to see a leader who actually cares, first and foremost, about solving his country’s problems, pulling his people together, and taking them to the next level. We’ve never seen that in the US! In the US the “leaders” divide up the society, play the parts against each other, and SOLVE NO PROBLEMS.
Singapore has handled racial politics at a near masterclass level. The whole nation is driven to pursue success. No one give two shots about your racial or religious background, only of your skills to achieve your own success or to support theirs. It's genius.
It took a lot of years to achieved that but we have seen issues rising in recent years with the influx of foreigners the current bunch of policy makers need to do something about it.
you are delusional. racial harmony laws are used to prosecute minority concerns when voicing their opinion. it means you never hear about any issues. anyone who has gone through the sg education system knows its open season for minorities including by teachers
@@naanyangdiaries You made it sound, at least to me, as though he was saying the opposition MP's English was bad. It wasn't until I watched the video that I realised LKY was saying something different.
@@derekyong8878 that was definitely not what I said. You can speak perfect English, which the member obviously could not, and still be speaking gibberish
We have a Great Man who took Singapore out of nothing to what Singapore is today. I rather have his kind of leadership than to those who are racist and bullies us like our neighbour. Thank you for introducing religious harmony. We are so lucky as Singaporeans to have a man who is a legacy and a foresight for Singapore for Singaporeans.
It is really funny for you to say that singapore is for singaporeans. In 1967, the housing program took malay land without any compensation, the housing project also introduced quotas, which in every apartment 70% needs to be chinese, in 1967 also, the singaporean government began implementing policies that makes poor malays migrate to malaysia. And, there are proofs that funds are not given to the malays adequately, and, history education in singapore is beyond demeaning to the righteous aboriginal " malays " originators of singapore, which came from the word singa and pura, lion city, and inadequate funding of malay schools. Just because malaysia have constitutional aboriginal rights doesnt mean that our leaders bully other races. Just because some chinese and indian in malaysia say it it doesn't mean its true.
@@adamharrold407 there are 75% ethnic Chinese in Singapore, so the 70% quota makes sense, and you didn't mention that they also made it compulsory for indians and malays live evenly together with the chinese to prevent racial clumping. Furthermore, Malaysia has a law enforcing the higher positions of any big businesses to be occupied by a minimum number of malays(bumiputera), this is a working position quota and not a residential quota, mind you. Lastly, do Singaporean chinese have discounts on buying houses/property(INCLUDING luxurious units) like the 7% Malaysian malays(bumiputera) enjoy, REGARDLESS of their financial standing?
@@frozenflava again, Malaysia can do the same voting manipulation, but did we? Did we force people to live in a designated area and control the race from clumping? No we didnt. Infact, chinese and indians are herd in our country. Does malays who actually are the indigineous people defended in your constitution like the maoris in new Zealand constitution? No.
I respect both Mr Chiam and Mr Lee. Mr Lee for what he did to make Singapore who it looks today. Mr Chiam for how he dare to fight for the rights of Singaporeans, even when he have stroke he still press on for GE2011
He is a great man for what he did for the. Singaporean that is what it is now doing well and riches country in the. World thank you for sharing your beautiful video love your video thanks.
Mohamed Jufrie bin Mahmood had good intention to push but as a Singaporean, I am glad that didn't go through. Kudos to LKY for handling this issue the way he did.
Everyone can come closed or even better but your leaders are unwilling to because they love themselves more than they love the country! Our MM Lee love his country with his 100% love and ready to die for Singapore if needed to and that is the different between your country and my country leader.
Nothing but admiration and respect for LKY! What a man!!! Singapore would not be where it is today without him... And people would then be debating the lack of many things that people take for granted today and not criticize him from the comforts they enjoy thanks to him!!!
But some people of modern Singapore still do not understand what a good guy he was to bring Singapore to such standards. The only mistake he made when he was running Singapore was to spoil us...He gave us too good a life. My utmost Respect for Mr Lee Kuan Yew. Salute!
yeah i hear you..! When hes gone and spore goes down the drain many may know what they lost..and it will be too late. Lets hope we dont make that mistake. I hate to say but already we see signs of disintegration in our society..THINGS ARE CHANGING for sure..
Leonard Teo i dont believe he gave us a good life. I am in that generation in my 50s and we worked like hell to have the standard ofliving we have now. It didnt happen by magic.Lee was a strict disciplinarian and he did what he did at a time when it needed to be done..to be tough..If you ask me, things are too soft now
Leonard Teo No to worshiping LKY. Saluting LKY, bowing to him and giving him a state funeral with the highest honor may be considered worshiping or glorifying the dead. To me, it desecrates our national flag by draping it over the coffin of a former dictator. We don't want to have the same mentality like North Korea where its people gave all the credit and honor to one man. A one man show. We don't want to only give all the respect to only one person. Lky may be tough but he can be an asshole at times. You don't pretend to be good under the guise of being tough, determined and hardworking. Anybody can be tough determined and hardworking in being a dictator. No LKY did not spoil Singaporeans or even pamper them. He fiercely opposed that. He made life in Singapore quite repressive and restrictive especially in the 70's and 80's and you still say he spoil them? I can only guess with your mentality lie this what you may do if you are prime minister. More R and R under the guise of discipline. Discipline is one thing but how you apply it matters. If you apply it too strictly, it can get too restrictive and suffocating. People may rebel and it will backfire your objectives. Both party losers. People are born free not to be subordinated to anyone or anything. LKY is not merely a respectable man. He is a controversial figure in Singapore. God knows how he got into power and remain in it with a very tight grip. Lky does not listen and respect others other than PAP, PAP supporters and himself so why should we non-PAP supporters or even the neutrals accord him with the utmost respect?
He had a very good relationship with Thatcher, who called him Harry. Just like LKY, Thatcher also loved her country. Since Blair, UK Prime Ministers have done all they can to destroy their own country. Authoritarian, yes, but he always did what was best for Singapore.
we dont always have to accomodate the malays. I remember LEE HSIEN LOONG in a speech he turned the tables on his father. He told the malays that they should not always expect others to accomodate them. Once in a while they should expect to eat together with people of other races , and not expect others to accomodate their needs always. I think most malays dont mind eating together as long as the food they eat is Halal. But there are others who are staunch and always expect special treatment.
yup. they will never be if handouts are that easy..even in school. we paid $6 school fees ...in my time, then it went up to $7 each month. The malay children only paid $2 standard. But saying that it is nice to see many of the better educated ones doing well..Anything is possible with education ...
That was in the 60s and 70s when I was in school ..The malays were the original settlers here. So the govt then decided that they have to recognise that. They were given special assistance..as one malay person told me...they have free education right up to university and thats their right. I dont agree. In the 60s because of this, poor families paid $2 school fees or free. The rest of us had to pay first $4 and then $7 bUT the malays were authomatically given the right to subsidised school fees. I feel that is the reason why many of them are still backward ..My father used to say that iSTANA KG GLAM was the original family home of the former king and his descendants till just a few years ago. They had to move out and the govt took over the istana and the grounds. My father used to say the descendants could stay there and only pay $1 every month in rent. Just a token.
jessie james study human migration process all human being descended from african later, human migrated to other region for various reason there are constant migration of human beings there are no such thing as "NATIVE" and "ORIGINAL SETTLER" there are many various kingdom been wiped off from history
Tan Siying I'm not Malay, I'm Chinese. Even without subtitles or reading his lips I totally understand him. All I hear is LKY with his lofty elitist tone, constantly belittling his experience and his opinion. He barely even let the guy finish! Hear him out, let him finish, then argue with him. And today, to support the minority ethnicities, we have the GRC system. Lines constantly redrawn every election. Tin Pei Ling riding on the coattails of Goh Chok Tong. Great job.
doryfishie2 Can't you tell that Mr LKY was getting annoyed that the guy has no good solutions and whatever he tries to mention, Mr Lee already thought of it long ago and knows it wouldn't work out. Mr LKY hates wasting time. If that guy has something brilliant to say, just like what opposition Low Thia Kiang said, Mr Lee would listen attentively and take it in. Too bad this guy was just not at the same level and frequency as Mr Lee, he's wasting time.
I find it funny that when ever Lee is about to stumble or forget what he's going to say next. Instead of doing what most people do where they kind off soldier on through and misspeak, fumble or lose track of what they're saying. Yew would pause, collect his thoughts and then continues.
***** I don't know what's your fucking problem. Bringing in an unrelated topic like sexuality. I wasn't even talking about gay rights or anything about sexuality in this post. Gosh, what were you thinking? What has this got to do with what Lee Kwan Yew is talking about or what I commented about their speech? Don't bring in something that you don't like and pick a fight about it. That's childish and irrational.
***** Seriously, how old are you? Honestly, you chat crap and I don't know where you based your statements on. Why do I say the word "Chinkapore"? It is because you represent some ugly Singaporeans with such an arrogant attitude and I dub them as Chinkaporeans. Old fashioned Cheena. I want it to remain Singapore not Chinkapore. Why are you so anti-Western? if you are so, don't live in Singapore because Singaporeans don't represent your kind of mentality. We are not traditional and backward. We are a modern cosmopolitan society and the so called people destroying SG, it is actually your kind of people that suggest of destroying modern Singapore. Stay out if you don't like the Singapore of today .You say that liberals are corrupting or destroying Singapore. Well, at least Singapore is pragmatic to accept new ideas and not being stuck to old narrow minded ideas.
Mr lee = nation builder,economist and strategist but was a law student Mr Goh = international trade and investment figure Mr Lee hsien loong = nation relationship manager / welfare point person
When it comes to martial art, there is none to match Bruce Lee. When it comes to governing, there is none to match LKY. They both have the iron in them.
LKY and his pioneer team in PAP cannot be compared to today's PAP. If only the pioneers were all still alive, I think they could have come up with a solution to our reliance on foreign labour.
Our most beyond respectfully great leader Mr Lee kuan yew achieve Singapore to share with everyone how Singapore look today l appreciate and respect him forever
only if would have this guy in Pakistan, I guess with our natural resources and human talent he would have made Pakistan a super power. Singapore as a land and Singaporeans as a nation are so lucky to have him
I would say that Mr Lee Kuan Yew made a very big mistake in his life when running Singapore. The only mistake that he made was to spoil the current Singaporeans and mostly the teenagers and Mr Lee Hsien Loong is still making the same mistake.
L. T. Mr LKY built a prosperous nation but he did not spoil the children of his generation. The younger Singaporeans CHOSE to take their fortunes for granted.
Just heard what he said about not making Sidek and Mattar Chinese by accepting them as who they are.... Fast forward to 2017... his son just made Halimah officially a Malay instead of being a born Indian.
throwback to when the government was basically in its prime, solving real issues efficiently and working themselves hard to live up to the expectations of the citizens who voted for them
TheeFearfulSymmetry he wasnt always so eloquent. Like mr lee kuan yew who had to learn mandarin and hokkien in his adult life, mr goh chok tong had to learn english and malay...Mr lee kuan yew personally helped him to improve ..
U call this shuai?? His fa ling wen make him look like the kiu Ong ya at jalan kayu Chinese temple, u call this shuai...u r so into Taoist religion, like that Lee kuan yew also shuai he look like the huat Zhu gong at jalan hwee yoh Chinese temple, don't believe u look at his forehead. Only his skin is fair n huat Zhu gong is darker in colour
I am only 17yo coming 18. And I understand why PAP has to do all these policy and whatsoever, we feel angry sometimes, we have hard times sometimes but still, I know that this is the best for us. The upcoming generation will learn from it too I believe. And what I feel is that if there is a change in the government, life of Singaporeans will improve BUT FOR A SHORT TERM !!!! And while we enjoy that short term of low interest, low taxes we won't realise that Singapore is suffering from LONG TERM SUCCESS from lots of view. It would become a threat for us in many ways. So lets not play politics, vote for the right party and work hard for a living. Thank you PAP and I am waiting for more interesting news from you. Pioneer generation package was extremely good!! Elderly enjoys, we enjoys.
the thing is, change is not just... change. there are accompanying risks. it is a fact that many ppl make uninformed choice when it comes to voting. which is fine, because they can learn from that decision. but, we should not fantasize that change will always be good. actually if singaporean thinks that PAP has ruled for 'too long' and decided that let's give the opposition a chance, sure why not. but in terms of development, governance, social harmony etc, there will always be risks, which ppl should really be informed about.
mr lee has seen it all and done it all since during the troubled yrs of the 1950s even during his time in england. He said he wasnt treated well there because he was chinese. THat made him all the more determind to fight. When he was ru nning for POLITICS, he was fearless and full of ferocity. He walks the talk. No one then or now can be his equal or even close. he knows what he is talking about...
LKY is a great man. The same cannot be said of his sons. They're capable but nowhere close. If they are half as capable as Mr. LKY, Singapore would have been in a better state today. #fact
GRC is a brilliant scheme to ensure racial representations, but it is not without problems. It was unfairly advantageous to the ruling party who could field better minority candidates for many years, resulting in an unintended result of piggybacking MPs bcoz of many walkovers. That was the biggest elephant in the room that both parties did not say out aloud during this debate. It took many years until opposition MP LTK took up the challenge to come out of his ward to take on a GRC and succeeded. This helped to raise opposition party in Singapore to become a credible force. It also helped PAP MPs to learn to win votes from elections the hard way, that is, it is possible to lose. They cannot take wins for granted. In the end, the GRC scheme worked in ensuring racial representations in electoral battles as intended and also raised the quality of electoral battles on both sides. For that, I salute LKY for his foresight.
thank you Mr Chiam for standing up for us for so many years! It may have been lonely for you in parliament but you never wavered! A true Singaporean hero.
bakhit rahman I find it very weird listening to this "discussion" in regards to allocating MP seats based on someone race!How the hell singaporeans put up with this? This is prime example of racism in my opinion
bakhit rahman m4rs12 Kelliee chan is correct. The opposition was against GRC and wanted to allow only certain race to take part in constituencies. Look at where we are now with GRC. It has worked.
I like how LKY and his team uses data to make their analyses instead of just going by "gut feel". To those who were saying he was a "race realist" or whatever, you guys are showing how you didn't follow this video. He is actually showing how he stands against having ethnicity based MP's for minorities being mandated in constituencies. He is pushing the egalitarian viewpoint throughout. I wonder if he was in my state of Tamil Nadu, how much he'd be thoroughly against the current caste based reservation systems and how he'd promote meritocracy. Yes, TN is doing well relatively, but it could be so much better.
We were taught to be multiracial, but Mr Lee made arrangements that basically acknowledged that it is a lie and we are all racists, and the minority will forever beholden to the magnanimous chinese majority. I thus the justification for the GRC is one of the worst moves he made for Singaporeans.
''We have got here not by suppressing or pretending that race differences, language differences, culture differences do not exist, but that they can coexist without the majority obliterating oppressing the minority.......but by accepting the fact there are fundamental primeval differences and telling each other that we have to live, put up with each other, accommadate, comprimise '' I will remember these words for eternity
Wanderer Stein me too
If we had leaders like him in Spain....
...Bargain and compromise again, this is how it is being done... you miss this very important part.
I'm from Taiwan. @@JO-og5tp
@@JO-og5tp you're racist.
The only opposition that really kept the PAP in check without making false accusations.. Kudos to Chiam for all the work he has done
He agreed when he felt he was in agreement. Didn’t debate for the sake of sitting on the opposition bench. Real gentleman Mr Chiam.
Singapore’s opposition has much to learn, from Mr Chiam’s measured responses. Not saying the current ones are not capable, but there’s a benchmark set by someone in our history that bears standards and should be looked up upon.
This is the smartest, result driven and focused individual in the world. He is the greatest man of his life-time, no one can touch him. I can't put into words what he has been to his nation and to the world. He loved his country and his people more than he loved himself. LKY the great, your results (which is Singapore itself) will echo throughout the world. Good man you were. I still don't understand why you had opposition.
typical over-the-top comment. do you seriously think this guy has no criticism at all?
Sera Falatsi .
Well SAID.
ABSOLUTELY
WONDERFUL.
Sera Falatsi . ABSOLUTELY.
Thank You for your
Love of Singapore.
@Learn yes but not impossible to manage.. the situation for Singapore isn't as easy as you have imagined
AS CP like ur existence
Lee Kuan Yew sounds like the old and wise Shaolin master teaching his student in those old kung-fu movies.
ha ha. hes a lawyer. and a brilliant one. no one can outtalk him
@@jessiejames7492 the problem is he don't even give the Malay mp to talk
@@justinolim1471 yes its because that guy didnt do his homework. what he is saying is nonsense. Not what the PAP of that time want..segregation. bEsides, you cant beat mr lee, a first class lawyer too....too bad for the other guy.
@@jessiejames7492 Mr Lee should atleast respect a person by allowing him to talk, he don't get a chance to talk how do u know he didn't do his homework. We as a outsider could see the video that no word come out of his mouth, Everytime he wanna talk mr Lee stop him. If we wanna judge weather a person did his job, the minimum we can do is give them a chance to speak, by not giving a person chance to speak how do u know his idea don't work, even mr chiam wanna talk also stop by Mr Lee saying he will get his team out, if anyone here was in mr chiam shoe would also remain quiet, but the Malay mp didn't bother n is the only one left willing to speak out was also stop by Mr Lee, I don't see anyone look like a pro lawyer outspoken anyone here but only Mr Lee keep stop them from talking u can see this video again if u see it only once to get a clear picture, but I guess u haven watch this video cos the thing u mention got nothing to do with the video like outspoken the mp or a pro lawyer, nothing at all
@@justinolim1471 no time to waste, we got work to do.
A man of strength, integrity , wisdom and compassion, we are indeed blessed to have been born and come of age under his leadership and care. This bunch of paper generals in the next generation of government are not qualified to lick his shoes.
I have always respected LKY becos of his real love for Singaporeans and Singapore. A great leader respected by world leaders thru out his political career. Even today he may have been gone but always remembered for how he and his team built a country that we all as Singaporeans are proud of! RIP Mr Lee...you are in a better place!
Mr Lee Kuan Yew is a race realist. He understands the reality that race plays a part in politics. This is not isolated in Singapore or Malaysia but also happens in other countries like USA.
But yet he complains about Malaysia while admitting it in Singapore
@@RajaKumar-sj3et there's a difference between writing racially biased law and dealing with racial segregation on a social level. You can force people to offer equal education and employment opportunities, you cannot "assign" people to specific groups of "friends".
@@dl5066 You have to when you want to be Merit based.
@@RajaKumar-sj3et nope, you're asking for quality of outcome, while merit based is focused on equality of opportunities.
@@dl5066 When he has to delist a Malay MP on the request of Chinese voters, he is defying merit system.
You are missed, LKY. We could all use your advice and wisdom right now.
I have no affiliation whatsoever with any race in Singapore. But Mr. LEE Kuan Yew and his team of honourable men did a great job and they deserve respect. They took care of everyone and made great efforts to help the Singapore people.
Looking at people as Singaporeans and the good of Singaporeans rather then ethnic group brings unity and prosperity. When u are divided, u can be conquered.
What a great gift to mankind. And we are lucky here in Sg to have him as our PM
Greatest man of all time in politics and history. LKY is a great lawyer, statesman and a good human. We love you Sir! ❤️
Whooooa, greatest man of all time, eh? Whooaaaaa. He was SOOOO smart, SOOOO astute. He was the *GREATEST* nation-builder in the 100,000-year history of the human race. *WOW!!!!!!* You must be right, T@mil !
It is amazing to see a leader who actually cares, first and foremost, about solving his country’s problems, pulling his people together, and taking them to the next level. We’ve never seen that in the US! In the US the “leaders” divide up the society, play the parts against each other, and SOLVE NO PROBLEMS.
Yes, that us why I like Chiam See Tong.
Damn, LKY sim-citied the shit outta Singapore. Respect.
Singapore has handled racial politics at a near masterclass level. The whole nation is driven to pursue success. No one give two shots about your racial or religious background, only of your skills to achieve your own success or to support theirs.
It's genius.
It took a lot of years to achieved that but we have seen issues rising in recent years with the influx of foreigners the current bunch of policy makers need to do something about it.
you are delusional. racial harmony laws are used to prosecute minority concerns when voicing their opinion. it means you never hear about any issues. anyone who has gone through the sg education system knows its open season for minorities including by teachers
"we have been communicating in English and I still cannot understand you" 🤣
He wasn't saying what you're making it sound like he was saying.
@@derekyong8878 what did I make it sound like?
@@naanyangdiaries You made it sound, at least to me, as though he was saying the opposition MP's English was bad. It wasn't until I watched the video that I realised LKY was saying something different.
@@derekyong8878 that was definitely not what I said. You can speak perfect English, which the member obviously could not, and still be speaking gibberish
We have a Great Man who took Singapore out of nothing to what Singapore is today. I rather have his kind of leadership than to those who are racist and bullies us like our neighbour. Thank you for introducing religious harmony. We are so lucky as Singaporeans to have a man who is a legacy and a foresight for Singapore for Singaporeans.
Very true.....great man
It is really funny for you to say that singapore is for singaporeans. In 1967, the housing program took malay land without any compensation, the housing project also introduced quotas, which in every apartment 70% needs to be chinese, in 1967 also, the singaporean government began implementing policies that makes poor malays migrate to malaysia. And, there are proofs that funds are not given to the malays adequately, and, history education in singapore is beyond demeaning to the righteous aboriginal " malays " originators of singapore, which came from the word singa and pura, lion city, and inadequate funding of malay schools. Just because malaysia have constitutional aboriginal rights doesnt mean that our leaders bully other races. Just because some chinese and indian in malaysia say it it doesn't mean its true.
@@adamharrold407 there are 75% ethnic Chinese in Singapore, so the 70% quota makes sense, and you didn't mention that they also made it compulsory for indians and malays live evenly together with the chinese to prevent racial clumping. Furthermore, Malaysia has a law enforcing the higher positions of any big businesses to be occupied by a minimum number of malays(bumiputera), this is a working position quota and not a residential quota, mind you. Lastly, do Singaporean chinese have discounts on buying houses/property(INCLUDING luxurious units) like the 7% Malaysian malays(bumiputera) enjoy, REGARDLESS of their financial standing?
@@frozenflava lies. I buy land. I dont have any discount. What law states that some companies has to have quotas what akta what seksyen?
@@frozenflava again, Malaysia can do the same voting manipulation, but did we? Did we force people to live in a designated area and control the race from clumping? No we didnt. Infact, chinese and indians are herd in our country. Does malays who actually are the indigineous people defended in your constitution like the maoris in new Zealand constitution? No.
I respect both Mr Chiam and Mr Lee. Mr Lee for what he did to make Singapore who it looks today. Mr Chiam for how he dare to fight for the rights of Singaporeans, even when he have stroke he still press on for GE2011
I endear our founding father LKY.. Always and forever. He is one of the kind in the world and we are so blessed to have him.
He is a great man for what he did for the. Singaporean that is what it is now doing well and riches country in the. World thank you for sharing your beautiful video love your video thanks.
Mohamed Jufrie bin Mahmood had good intention to push but as a Singaporean, I am glad that didn't go through. Kudos to LKY for handling this issue the way he did.
Everyone can come closed or even better but your leaders are unwilling to because they love themselves more than they love the country! Our MM Lee love his country with his 100% love and ready to die for Singapore if needed to and that is the different between your country and my country leader.
I like the way PAP and Opposition talk and discuss with another, with facts and each listen to one another...
Nothing but admiration and respect for LKY! What a man!!! Singapore would not be where it is today without him... And people would then be debating the lack of many things that people take for granted today and not criticize him from the comforts they enjoy thanks to him!!!
But some people of modern Singapore still do not understand what a good guy he was to bring Singapore to such standards. The only mistake he made when he was running Singapore was to spoil us...He gave us too good a life. My utmost Respect for Mr Lee Kuan Yew. Salute!
yeah i hear you..! When hes gone and spore goes down the drain many may know what they lost..and it will be too late. Lets hope we dont make that mistake. I hate to say but already we see signs of disintegration in our society..THINGS ARE CHANGING for sure..
Leonard Teo i dont believe he gave us a good life. I am in that generation in my 50s and we worked like hell to have the standard ofliving we have now. It didnt happen by magic.Lee was a strict disciplinarian and he did what he did at a time when it needed to be done..to be tough..If you ask me, things are too soft now
Leonard Teo No to worshiping LKY. Saluting LKY, bowing to him and giving him a state funeral with the highest honor may be considered worshiping or glorifying the dead. To me, it desecrates our national flag by draping it over the coffin of a former dictator. We don't want to have the same mentality like North Korea where its people gave all the credit and honor to one man. A one man show. We don't want to only give all the respect to only one person. Lky may be tough but he can be an asshole at times. You don't pretend to be good under the guise of being tough, determined and hardworking. Anybody can be tough determined and hardworking in being a dictator. No LKY did not spoil Singaporeans or even pamper them. He fiercely opposed that. He made life in Singapore quite repressive and restrictive especially in the 70's and 80's and you still say he spoil them? I can only guess with your mentality lie this what you may do if you are prime minister. More R and R under the guise of discipline. Discipline is one thing but how you apply it matters. If you apply it too strictly, it can get too restrictive and suffocating. People may rebel and it will backfire your objectives. Both party losers. People are born free not to be subordinated to anyone or anything. LKY is not merely a respectable man. He is a controversial figure in Singapore. God knows how he got into power and remain in it with a very tight grip. Lky does not listen and respect others other than PAP, PAP supporters and himself so why should we non-PAP supporters or even the neutrals accord him with the utmost respect?
zaki zadin he was not perfect (like none of us is), but you have to admit he was an outstanding man with a vision far beyond others.
He totally outclassed that guy at the end. Made him look like a little kid in a big boy (pink) suit, actually.
He had a very good relationship with Thatcher, who called him Harry. Just like LKY, Thatcher also loved her country. Since Blair, UK Prime Ministers have done all they can to destroy their own country. Authoritarian, yes, but he always did what was best for Singapore.
we dont always have to accomodate the malays. I remember LEE HSIEN LOONG in a speech he turned the tables on his father. He told the malays that they should not always expect others to accomodate them. Once in a while they should expect to eat together with people of other races , and not expect others to accomodate their needs always. I think most malays dont mind eating together as long as the food they eat is Halal. But there are others who are staunch and always expect special treatment.
The malays are much more lucky than the indians time they should be more independence
yup. they will never be if handouts are that easy..even in school. we paid $6 school fees ...in my time, then it went up to $7 each month. The malay children only paid $2 standard. But saying that it is nice to see many of the better educated ones doing well..Anything is possible with education ...
jessie james Wait what such things happened? Why do they only have to pay 2 dollars? Care to share?
That was in the 60s and 70s when I was in school ..The malays were the original settlers here. So the govt then decided that they have to recognise that. They were given special assistance..as one malay person told me...they have free education right up to university and thats their right. I dont agree. In the 60s because of this, poor families paid $2 school fees or free. The rest of us had to pay first $4 and then $7 bUT the malays were authomatically given the right to subsidised school fees. I feel that is the reason why many of them are still backward ..My father used to say that iSTANA KG GLAM was the original family home of the former king and his descendants till just a few years ago. They had to move out and the govt took over the istana and the grounds. My father used to say the descendants could stay there and only pay $1 every month in rent. Just a token.
jessie james
study human migration process
all human being descended from african
later, human migrated to other region for various reason
there are constant migration of human beings
there are no such thing as "NATIVE" and "ORIGINAL SETTLER"
there are many various kingdom been wiped off from history
Who came here after the nomination 2020?
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Me!!!!
The best statesman ever ever in the world... not blind by ideology.. a pragmatic, tough person
He truly cared about the country & its citizens 😘
I miss you dearly. Sir Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew. May you bless us towards a MAJULAH SINGAPURA.
This is the man we need in India
WE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING IN ENGLISH AND I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU. Love the way he talks :)) RIP Mr Lee
Vchk
Hell welcomes
Tan Siying I'm not Malay, I'm Chinese. Even without subtitles or reading his lips I totally understand him. All I hear is LKY with his lofty elitist tone, constantly belittling his experience and his opinion. He barely even let the guy finish! Hear him out, let him finish, then argue with him. And today, to support the minority ethnicities, we have the GRC system. Lines constantly redrawn every election. Tin Pei Ling riding on the coattails of Goh Chok Tong. Great job.
zaki zadin THENK U YOU'RE WHALECUM
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Can't you tell that Mr LKY was getting annoyed that the guy has no good solutions and whatever he tries to mention, Mr Lee already thought of it long ago and knows it wouldn't work out. Mr LKY hates wasting time. If that guy has something brilliant to say, just like what opposition Low Thia Kiang said, Mr Lee would listen attentively and take it in. Too bad this guy was just not at the same level and frequency as Mr Lee, he's wasting time.
LKY was the BEST of the BEST the world ever had.
Singaporeans are so lucky.
I find it funny that when ever Lee is about to stumble or forget what he's going to say next. Instead of doing what most people do where they kind off soldier on through and misspeak, fumble or lose track of what they're saying. Yew would pause, collect his thoughts and then continues.
This man is one of the most brilliant and smartest Asian leader,the pillar success of Singapore Economic strength.
Whoooooaaaaa. Most brilliant and smartest Asian!!!! WOW !!!!! He had an IQ of 10000. Whooooaaaa.
SIR LKY HE IS BRUCE LEE OF POLITICAL WORLD HE IS BEST OF BEST 🇲🇾❤🇸🇬✌😘i am half Singaporean my mom is Singaporean n my dad is Malaysian........
LKY so intelligent schooled opposition back in his days
This is too all the Singaporean great grandfather... he keeps Singaporean far for everyone one for us..... R.I.P grandpa
That's Chiam See Tong, one of Singapore's well known opposition figures having a head to head with Lee Kwan Yew. Well, almost.
***** Shit, what's this rhetoric of yours? Sexuality issues? Orientation? Jesus!! Where is this heading?
***** I don't know what's your fucking problem. Bringing in an unrelated topic like sexuality. I wasn't even talking about gay rights or anything about sexuality in this post. Gosh, what were you thinking? What has this got to do with what Lee Kwan Yew is talking about or what I commented about their speech? Don't bring in something that you don't like and pick a fight about it. That's childish and irrational.
***** Seriously, how old are you? Honestly, you chat crap and I don't know where you based your statements on. Why do I say the word "Chinkapore"? It is because you represent some ugly Singaporeans with such an arrogant attitude and I dub them as Chinkaporeans. Old fashioned Cheena. I want it to remain Singapore not Chinkapore. Why are you so anti-Western? if you are so, don't live in Singapore because Singaporeans don't represent your kind of mentality. We are not traditional and backward. We are a modern cosmopolitan society and the so called people destroying SG, it is actually your kind of people that suggest of destroying modern Singapore. Stay out if you don't like the Singapore of today .You say that liberals are corrupting or destroying Singapore. Well, at least Singapore is pragmatic to accept new ideas and not being stuck to old narrow minded ideas.
+Korea is One, I agree with you
but mr lee respected him..
They all looked so young. Even Chiam See Tong looked decent back then. Majullah Singapura!
Singapore is truly blessed. God gave us Lee Kuan Yew.
Mr lee = nation builder,economist and strategist but was a law student
Mr Goh = international trade and investment figure
Mr Lee hsien loong = nation relationship manager / welfare point person
Agree
Agree
Howard Teo Chin Wan p
When it comes to martial art, there is none to match Bruce Lee. When it comes to governing, there is none to match LKY. They both have the iron in them.
LKY is one of my favorite world great leaders ...
Are u the ex president?
Long live your legacy love from Tamil nadu
LKY GCT = Great Men of Singapore!
LKY and his pioneer team in PAP cannot be compared to today's PAP. If only the pioneers were all still alive, I think they could have come up with a solution to our reliance on foreign labour.
Our most beyond respectfully great leader Mr Lee kuan yew achieve Singapore to share with everyone how Singapore look today l appreciate and respect him forever
only if would have this guy in Pakistan, I guess with our natural resources and human talent he would have made Pakistan a super power. Singapore as a land and Singaporeans as a nation are so lucky to have him
really looks like a teacher teaching his student in the class
this old strong man is the very leader who build tiny singapore a modern and perosperous sociaty, may God always with him.....mourning........
Nice haircut by Chiam See Tong. Little did he know 30 years later we would all be getting this haircut. XD
LKY , is always one of a Great Statesman that i loved.
a lesson that we all should not forget about keeping the racial peace in singapore
I will miss you mr Lky
I like and admire both of them - MMLKY and Mr Chiam See Tong.
Why would they argue?
Mr & Mrs LKY made S'PORE beautiful.
Now the DPM is very understand.
I would say that Mr Lee Kuan Yew made a very big mistake in his life when running Singapore. The only mistake that he made was to spoil the current Singaporeans and mostly the teenagers and Mr Lee Hsien Loong is still making the same mistake.
L. T. Mr LKY built a prosperous nation but he did not spoil the children of his generation. The younger Singaporeans CHOSE to take their fortunes for granted.
The one and only true Prime Minister of Singapore.
Greatest statesman of all time
Imagine LKY was the president of USA. The world would be a better place right now
I miss ah gong very much.
Don't just say miss prove it by atleast send a friend or family member follow him to where he is now
Such a smart, elegant, and well-rounded dude!
Just heard what he said about not making Sidek and Mattar Chinese by accepting them as who they are.... Fast forward to 2017... his son just made Halimah officially a Malay instead of being a born Indian.
He was a good man.
throwback to when the government was basically in its prime, solving real issues efficiently and working themselves hard to live up to the expectations of the citizens who voted for them
History and documentary can be so inspiring.
Accepting the facts, live up together, accommodate and compromise. That should be the wise way, instead of being denial.
wah wah goh chok tong is so freaking eloquent and well spoken!!! so shuai omg
they are perfect movie characters and we hardly even know that !!!
TheeFearfulSymmetry he wasnt always so eloquent. Like mr lee kuan yew who had to learn mandarin and hokkien in his adult life, mr goh chok tong had to learn english and malay...Mr lee kuan yew personally helped him to improve ..
Therese 👍
Goh Chok Tong was never eloquent. His English was/is substandard.
U call this shuai?? His fa ling wen make him look like the kiu Ong ya at jalan kayu Chinese temple, u call this shuai...u r so into Taoist religion, like that Lee kuan yew also shuai he look like the huat Zhu gong at jalan hwee yoh Chinese temple, don't believe u look at his forehead. Only his skin is fair n huat Zhu gong is darker in colour
A true champ will fight anyone fairly.
I am only 17yo coming 18. And I understand why PAP has to do all these policy and whatsoever, we feel angry sometimes, we have hard times sometimes but still, I know that this is the best for us. The upcoming generation will learn from it too I believe.
And what I feel is that if there is a change in the government, life of Singaporeans will improve BUT FOR A SHORT TERM !!!! And while we enjoy that short term of low interest, low taxes we won't realise that Singapore is suffering from LONG TERM SUCCESS from lots of view. It would become a threat for us in many ways. So lets not play politics, vote for the right party and work hard for a living.
Thank you PAP and I am waiting for more interesting news from you. Pioneer generation package was extremely good!!
Elderly enjoys, we enjoys.
the thing is, change is not just... change. there are accompanying risks. it is a fact that many ppl make uninformed choice when it comes to voting. which is fine, because they can learn from that decision. but, we should not fantasize that change will always be good. actually if singaporean thinks that PAP has ruled for 'too long' and decided that let's give the opposition a chance, sure why not. but in terms of development, governance, social harmony etc, there will always be risks, which ppl should really be informed about.
mr lee has seen it all and done it all since during the troubled yrs of the 1950s even during his time in england. He said he wasnt treated well there because he was chinese. THat made him all the more determind to fight. When he was ru nning for POLITICS, he was fearless and full of ferocity. He walks the talk. No one then or now can be his equal or even close. he knows what he is talking about...
The son's of Ethiopia love you sir! May God welcome you.
LKY owned them. Everything lky says makes sense
LKW was a great leader. Africa's leaders should borrow a leaf from him.
Here on 2 July 2020. In the midst of 2020 Singapore election.
LKY is a great man. The same cannot be said of his sons. They're capable but nowhere close. If they are half as capable as Mr. LKY, Singapore would have been in a better state today. #fact
Soli lah...tape ran out...!!!
Remember that was the GOOD 'O DAYS of the video tapes!!
Hi, I would like to use a part of this video for my PhD thesis. Is that fine with you?
GRC is a brilliant scheme to ensure racial representations, but it is not without problems.
It was unfairly advantageous to the ruling party who could field better minority candidates for many years, resulting in an unintended result of piggybacking MPs bcoz of many walkovers. That was the biggest elephant in the room that both parties did not say out aloud during this debate.
It took many years until opposition MP LTK took up the challenge to come out of his ward to take on a GRC and succeeded. This helped to raise opposition party in Singapore to become a credible force. It also helped PAP MPs to learn to win votes from elections the hard way, that is, it is possible to lose. They cannot take wins for granted.
In the end, the GRC scheme worked in ensuring racial representations in electoral battles as intended and also raised the quality of electoral battles on both sides. For that, I salute LKY for his foresight.
wow, salute, so sharp and considerate to all race
That malay dude has balls of steel.
thank you Mr Chiam for standing up for us for so many years! It may have been lonely for you in parliament but you never wavered! A true Singaporean hero.
wow the recent general elections sure prove that, you my friend are a true political analyst.
Did I just watch LKY solve the world's racial problems in 15 minutes...
Easier said then done. No race can coexist without conflict. He didn't solve it. He merely state the impossible lol.
Liked, anymore video witrh this kindof topics as well as this younger of lky?
Its the usual race card. But being Singaporean it does not matter. Whoever is honest and dynamic can be MP .. regardless of race.
PAP likes to play race card in election.
bakhit rahman I find it very weird listening to this "discussion" in regards to allocating MP seats based on someone race!How the hell singaporeans put up with this? This is prime example of racism in my opinion
m4rs12 i think the both of u need to watch the whole thing again and really pick up ur ears...its the opposition pushing for the idea not the PAP...
Hello chan mali chan. U need to go for brain surgery.
bakhit rahman m4rs12 Kelliee chan is correct. The opposition was against GRC and wanted to allow only certain race to take part in constituencies. Look at where we are now with GRC. It has worked.
i have respect to mr chiam, take care of ur health and god will bless good people like u!
wow they had laser pointers then!
For anybody and anyone who happen to condemn LKY here， it only shows that they choose not to understand what is really going on in this video。
What happened to the good old days where PC wasnt really a thing
Such a wise king.
so true by LKY even for today's society.
is lky suffering from a certain eye defect ?
his eyes do not seem balanced.
if it is a defect, how does it affect his thoughts?
A REAL LIFE SUPER HERO!
those who not support LKY here i got nothing to say.. open ur eyes and see... singapore now days.. great country
No one leader quite like him take time to talk to his people so patiently .. He really treats all of them like his own childs. Rip Mr Lee Kuan yew
The plural of child is children, not childs. Where did you learn your _Engrish?_
He stopped chian and jufrie comments half way, twice. Anyone know how respect works except him.
Jufrie was ahead of his time on communicating in english but 1988 sadly not everyone could speak english but i see his point.
I like how LKY and his team uses data to make their analyses instead of just going by "gut feel". To those who were saying he was a "race realist" or whatever, you guys are showing how you didn't follow this video. He is actually showing how he stands against having ethnicity based MP's for minorities being mandated in constituencies. He is pushing the egalitarian viewpoint throughout. I wonder if he was in my state of Tamil Nadu, how much he'd be thoroughly against the current caste based reservation systems and how he'd promote meritocracy. Yes, TN is doing well relatively, but it could be so much better.
If forefather is still alive and still running PAP, my vote to him without a doubt.
Yes, Kuan Yew is a great and brilliant man.
We were taught to be multiracial, but Mr Lee made arrangements that basically acknowledged that it is a lie and we are all racists, and the minority will forever beholden to the magnanimous chinese majority. I thus the justification for the GRC is one of the worst moves he made for Singaporeans.