Nobody hates him, only people don't respect him for justified reasons. He consciously speaks nonsense because he built his career on nonsense. The funny thing is that people believe that he is serious and accept his idiotic statements as a fact.
@@mlrd2687 can you give me an example? Because he’s a very studied basketball historian. You must not like his opinions. But you sound ignorant talking like that
This is actually surprisingly great. Not surprising for Nick Wright, but it just seems like there's so much superficial NBA news and tabloids out there now. This is indepth, and I would recommend to any NBA fan that wants more context than just the current generation and expands nicely on each player and their history. Real great stuff, Nick, serisouly. I hope more people tune in.
Appreciate all the work you put into this Nick, I love top 50 lists whether I agree or disagree. I’m gutted Bill Russell and Wilt will miss out on this but can’t wait to see the rest of this. 🙌🏻
Cant wait for the top few, ive always enjoyed that nick is one of the few ppl that seems to give kareem his props. Cant understand how a dude with his amount of titles, stats and accolades always seems to be underrated by ppl
@@sfslax well considering he said he won’t put Wilt, West, Oscar, Havlicek, Cowens on the list is pretty weird considering that’s who Kareem played with or against in his first 5-6 years which was when he was most dominant.
He won 3 mvps and 5 titles after 1975. All of those guys were retired by then except havlicek was in his last two years and cowens was in his last 5 but was a career 17 and 1/2 pt scorer. He played against oscar wilt and west for like his first 3-5 years at most
Melo has 0 first all nba teams, Jokic has 2 (might be 3 this year) Melo reached WFC only once , so did Jokic Melo has 3 playoff series wins, Jokic has 4 Melo has never been the best player in his position, Jokic has Melo never won MVP , Jokic 1 (might take second this year) Melo is like 10 years older PLAYOFFS: Carmelo Anthony has averaged 23.1 points, 6.7 rebounds and 2.5 assists , 41.4FG% 3p32.4% Nikola Jokic has averaged 25.9 points, 11.3 rebounds and 6.4 assists, 51.2FG% 3p40.6% Peak Melo < Peak Jokic Jokic has surpassed Melo in my opinion. And I have full respect for 9th all time scoring
You can’t compare Melo not making first team as a Wing to Jokic as a Center. Name five great current centers. Now name 15 great wing players. Melo and Jokic have different playing styles so to compare stats straight up is also silly.
Obviously Jokic is better than Melo. Jokic is one of the 20 best players ever. Melo is one of the 10 best pure scorers ever, but he's average everywhere else.
I’m glad you gave Bernard King his flowers. King was a walking bucket in the low post and as stated pre-injury, he carried the Knicks not only during that playoff run. I can vividly recall the excitement in NYC as King was going for 40 points every playoff game. Every time he touch the ball he was scoring or getting fouled and hearing Clyde on the play by play, made it must watch tv. We thought that was our year to get past the Celtics but going into game 7 and the Celtics mystique of never losing a game seven at that time was too much for the Knicks. As a Knick fan, I cannot believe he was traded to the Washington Bullets AND his jersey has not been retired. The Knicks need to make this happen!!
Valid Nick. Good start. Provided facts, actually reason, no bias, legit breakdown of the players playoff moments and legacy moments. Great start. Your hint of defense gives me Rodman, Gary Payton, or Sidney moncrief vibes 44-48🤷🏾♂️🤐.
I created a NBA All Time Greatest Tiers a couple years ago. It ended up being the top 155 players of all time but I didnt number them though and went throughout NBA history and that was tough. I can only imagine how much work it took trying to decide who gets left out and who ranks ahead of who in order. Looking forward to seeing how it turned out, although I have a good idea how the end of the list is going to go.
Reggie was the second best SG in the league from 93-98. One of the best clutch shooters ever. Like Larry Bird once said of him, anybody can make it when it's tied. Reggie was one of the few who'd make the shot down 1. He was deserving of the clout then and now.
@Raymond Sims what do you think about this?: "miller had some solid playoff runs. a 50 40 90 threat many seasons. stats even better in the playoffs (same efficieny, more volume). we are looking at a 22-28 point scorer in the playoffs on stellar efficiency including deep playoff runs soo... top50 IMO. lets see if iverson is in this top 50 cause that's always the noob test. miller has much better playoff resume, stats, advanced stats (elite win shares, offensive & defensive rating). miller played great into his late thirties. matter of fact remained his offensive to defensive rating gap of a very impressive 12 throughout most of his career, not slipping under 0 even once. iverson has a career -1 difference lol, lebron also 12 for reference. miller true shooting .614 (playoffs .601) is amazing. iverson's is .518 (playoffs .489). lebron's is .588 and we know how efficient lebron is. just goes to show" I posted that comment but I see we have miller discussions going on already so might as well chime in here. have a solid day guys
Yo Nick. Just found this series around the 30's so I'm going back and watching, question... (as Melo is my favorite player) does a ring with LA help him move up? (IF they win and if he's a key role?)
Gotta defend my guy Reggie Miller. His numbers don't seem eye popping but his impact in games was undeniable. First of all he didn't score alot early on and later in his career he took on more of a leadership role and a secondary scorer so that's where the overall scoring average comes down because prime Reggie was more of a 23 to 24 a game scorer. Also his teams were always constructed to where multiple players scored, not just one or two guys.. People think he wasn't a good defender but because he constantly was moving and running around the court he tired out whoever was defending him and in the 4th quarter that mattered also, and with the game on the line he got better. He always rose to the occasion. There is a reason that Michael Jordan (which many proclaims to be the best player ever) considers those pacer teams his hardest match ups and unlike some of the players mentioned he had post season success. I don't have a problem with him being left off the list but to dismiss him completely like he was a bum is simply not right.
I’m not sure about you but I decide if a player is better than another by asking these questions: How much team success and individual accolades did you have as the best player on a team? The reason I ask that question is because to me, it is far more impressive that Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Clyde Drexler led their teams to the finals than it is that Scottie Pippen won 6 championships as the number 2 option or James Worthy winning championships as the 3rd option. But I would give a guy like Dirk the nod over Malone, Barkley, Drexler.
He is going for certain type of players. No role players or gaudy scoring stats guys. Melo is abit curious but he has longevity and no matter the list, gonna be some bias which is ok with me.
Wait… How can you say Nikola Jokic is just an honorable mention due to not doing it long enough. Yet, you place Luka in your top 20… who’s been in LESS than Jokic!? And hasn’t accomplished what Jokic has!? 2x mvp.. been to a western conference finals, which is just as far as Luka has been. Similar stats, especially PER.
The funny thing is that he's known for his rebounds, but wasn't able to beat 35yo, hampered by injuries Wilt in that department either. Like, what are we even talking about...
The reason Elvin Hayes gets knocked is because he and the team needed Wes Unsled to 1. Stoke Elvin's Ego so he would play hard like they needed him . 2. Wes to do the Rebounding and dirty work and be the enforcer . That's why Wes got the credit for that team and later jobs with Bullets/ Wizards.
@@larrylegend545 Wes unseld was a Mvp and Rookie of the yr in same yr. He was a powerful undersized Rebounder like Barkley. It mattered to the team and Organization. That's why Wes got every job in the organization. The owners were grateful and loved him. 😅 lol Wes was Coach, G.M. head of basketball what ever he wanted. Elvin by alot of accounts was a handful to handle with his ego. But yeah Elvin Hayes could score inside with the best 'em no doubt 💯 👌.
I’ll never understand the sign and trade for the players side if winning is the goal. “Look a team that’s really good and maybe missing a piece like me to win, let’s trade those pieces for me and be about the same record wise and I get paid!”
This is very fun. You and Bill Simmons should do a pod together discussing your list. I think it's fitting since his Book of Basketball was all about ranking individual players, I'm sure y'all would have some fun disagreements.
Not a huge omissions. But the Reson Wes unseld got credit for Bullets Championship and not Elvin Hayes. Because Wes had to stroke Hayes Ego to get him to play like they needed him. He also had to do the dirty work, Rebounding , defense, enforcer. That's why Wes got credit "and jobs with the bullets/Wizards " . He was the leader.
Melo didn’t understand how good he had it in Denver. That team covered up his flaws on defense and in terms of leadership. He just needed a younger slightly better version of Chauncey. That’s where Melo got unlucky. Melo and CP would have been a great pairing.
Honestly I feel like there's quite a recency bias here. I can't very well say I think 'Melo and King should make it over Cowens and Unseld were were league MVPs and NBA champions. I could see with Unseld maybe saying that was the worst MVP and Championship fine but then you have John Havlicek who played 7 years in this span and won 2 Championships, a finals MVP, was named all NBA first team 3 times, all NBA second team twice and 4x all defensive first team.
It should be whoever Nick thinks is number 1. If Jordan is your number 1 then that should be enough for you. It’s not like Jordan and Lebron ever crossed basketball paths. It really is all a matter of opinion. We have no facts of how they would have faired against each other.
@@omieg89 It was the end of his career, plus he was the facilitator of the team, a defensive anchor, and grabbed more rebounds than any player today could imagine
@@DFJW45 but that’s my point. When he was easily the most dominant player then he should have overpowered teams of that era to at least 2 more titles in his prime. They say Wilt could bench press more than Shaq and that he was a track and field high jump champion. So he was like an athlete of today playing against far less athletic players. And he still couldn’t make it count towards winning. It wasn’t until he accepted a Bill Russell type of role that he won another championship and frankly he wasn’t as good at that role as Bill Russell was.
@@omieg89 No I totally agree. I think he’s like James Harden in the way that he’s a phenomenal player, his stats show how great he is, but his way of playing just didn’t translate into winning as often as we would have liked it too. But in a vacuum if I were to be asked who is the best basketball player I couldn’t realistically name more than 3 guys above Wilt. He simply did whatever he wanted to, whenever he wanted to, to whomever he wanted to. If it was scoring 50 PPG, leading the league in APG, playing every minute of every game, scoring 100, getting a quadruple double, it didn’t matter.
@@DFJW45 i personally have Wilt 11th and outside of my top ten. But I respect anyone who has him higher. For me, it doesn’t add up. I also have heard that a lot of the players of that era even say Russell was a better player than Wilt.
I really dont understand what Nick have against Jokic... Not top 50 last 50 years? Really.? Jokic carrer NOW is better than Melo... You dont have to put him at the top, but out of the list is just too crazy. Jokic has more sucess in the playoffs than Bernard King too. I just dont understand.
9:29 they lost to pacers, not Lebron. Also the idea the Knicks traded all these assets is laughable. The only two players in the trade that mattered were Galo and Felton. Galo was ok, and they got Felton back in free agency like a year later.
The point is that they did trade some assets and all Melo had to do was wait for the end of the season and the Knicks get to keep the players and more importantly, the first round pick.
Bro you can't take that Pistons series against TMac. That wasnt yet the 04 championship team, but was still one of the best defenses in the league, and TMac had basically no help.
Yeah 8 teams in the whole league for Bill Russell… meaning only three others teams in the East. Bill Russell played against the same three centers every game in the east and was 3-5 inches taller. Every wilt Russell matchup he can’t contain the Stilt. Russell had way underrated legends on his team. Cousy would still be a legend in todays game.
This is really the top 50 players period. The NBA before 1970 wasnt a real league and thats why Russell is disqualified with all his rings and Wilt is disqualified with all his records. They simply played in a league that consisted of part time players you might see at your local gym.
I assume he will have Dwight considering he said an omission of the Top 75. Also he will have AD even though his resume (especially w/o Lebron) is worse than Jokic.
@@denimjeg that doesn’t make any sense. You are saying AD has been a superstar every year since 2016. Well, you excluded the first 4 years of his career. If you did the same for Jokic, he’s been a superstar, MVP, and has had more playoff success as the lead guy.
@@denimjeg AD MVP candidate 😂. The highest he has ever finished was 3rd and 5th and he has NEVER gotten a single first place vote. Jokic is on his way to his 2nd straight MVP.
I'm just curious how low he will put Jordan. I believe all other placements will be excellent and well done. But I assume Lebron will be 1. I just don't know who he will put at 2 or 3.
@@Kruppt808 exactly. Plus if this was about basketball aside from NBA, Lebron would get a ton of credit for being a top 2 high school player of all time.
@@omieg89 the reason why is cus he was from the 70s his play style isn't pleasing to the eye and he's white. But he has to be on the list if you think things like mvps and championships are important
Why the hate for Reggie Miller who was better in the playoffs than the regular season and knock him for that. Made multiple eastern conference finals in the harder conference and when finally making a Finals appearance took Shaq and Kobe to game 6 in both their primes
Right off the bat I have a problem with you excluding players because they’re too old. You’re starting at Kareem’s rookie year but a lot of Kareem’s best competition isn’t even included on the list. I think you made an error and should have just included everybody that you thought was in the top 50.
I love how in one breath he can give melo a pass for losing with lesser teams and in another breath criticize tmac for losing with far lesser teams in his playoff runs. I'm sorry but pat garrity and Gordon giricic dont really stack up to Billups, ben Wallace, Tayshuan prince, and RIP Hamilton. Name one team he was on that was better than the team that beat him? It was a miracle he made it to a game 7 with the teams he was on
Who deserves a spot on Nick's Top 50 list?
Jokic
Giannis
Shane battier won titles in Miami heat
Spud Webb!!!
Dwight howard.....someone gotta show em some love sometime lol good list so far!
Love or hate him, Nick is never short of detail and depth when it comes to the association
Nobody hates him, only people don't respect him for justified reasons. He consciously speaks nonsense because he built his career on nonsense. The funny thing is that people believe that he is serious and accept his idiotic statements as a fact.
Yes but its irrelevant cuz he is wrong almost always
@@lukacalov1988 about what
@@mlrd2687 can you give me an example? Because he’s a very studied basketball historian. You must not like his opinions. But you sound ignorant talking like that
Can’t wait for the rest of the list and I love the deep dives
He's phenomenal at what he does. There's no denying that even if you hate him 🤷🏽♂️
@SuperPunch76 which part didn't you understand?
Morons lol wel all know who he has as number #1 this list is trash
This is actually surprisingly great. Not surprising for Nick Wright, but it just seems like there's so much superficial NBA news and tabloids out there now. This is indepth, and I would recommend to any NBA fan that wants more context than just the current generation and expands nicely on each player and their history. Real great stuff, Nick, serisouly. I hope more people tune in.
Appreciate all the work you put into this Nick, I love top 50 lists whether I agree or disagree. I’m gutted Bill Russell and Wilt will miss out on this but can’t wait to see the rest of this. 🙌🏻
I really love the deep dives!
Cant wait for the top few, ive always enjoyed that nick is one of the few ppl that seems to give kareem his props. Cant understand how a dude with his amount of titles, stats and accolades always seems to be underrated by ppl
How is he giving Kareem his props when the guys Kareem played against aren’t even on the list. It’s kinda ridiculous.
Lol bro when do you think kareem played haha you dont think any guys in the late 70s and 80s are on the list?
@@sfslax well considering he said he won’t put Wilt, West, Oscar, Havlicek, Cowens on the list is pretty weird considering that’s who Kareem played with or against in his first 5-6 years which was when he was most dominant.
He won 3 mvps and 5 titles after 1975. All of those guys were retired by then except havlicek was in his last two years and cowens was in his last 5 but was a career 17 and 1/2 pt scorer. He played against oscar wilt and west for like his first 3-5 years at most
Great start!
Melo has 0 first all nba teams, Jokic has 2 (might be 3 this year)
Melo reached WFC only once , so did Jokic
Melo has 3 playoff series wins, Jokic has 4
Melo has never been the best player in his position, Jokic has
Melo never won MVP , Jokic 1 (might take second this year)
Melo is like 10 years older
PLAYOFFS: Carmelo Anthony has averaged 23.1 points, 6.7 rebounds and 2.5 assists , 41.4FG% 3p32.4%
Nikola Jokic has averaged 25.9 points, 11.3 rebounds and 6.4 assists, 51.2FG% 3p40.6%
Peak Melo < Peak Jokic
Jokic has surpassed Melo in my opinion. And I have full respect for 9th all time scoring
You can’t compare Melo not making first team as a Wing to Jokic as a Center. Name five great current centers. Now name 15 great wing players.
Melo and Jokic have different playing styles so to compare stats straight up is also silly.
Obviously Jokic is better than Melo. Jokic is one of the 20 best players ever. Melo is one of the 10 best pure scorers ever, but he's average everywhere else.
@@thsu8 whoa pump the brakes there. Jokic is great but not quite there yet.
@@anthonyanderson9303 yea , Jokic nowhere close to top 20 , I was just pointing out that he has surpassed Melo
@@thsu8 that’s an embarrassing statement 🤡😭 NO WHERE CLOSE to top 20 stop it casual 🤦🏽♂️
I’m glad you gave Bernard King his flowers. King was a walking bucket in the low post and as stated pre-injury, he carried the Knicks not only during that playoff run. I can vividly recall the excitement in NYC as King was going for 40 points every playoff game. Every time he touch the ball he was scoring or getting fouled and hearing Clyde on the play by play, made it must watch tv. We thought that was our year to get past the Celtics but going into game 7 and the Celtics mystique of never losing a game seven at that time was too much for the Knicks. As a Knick fan, I cannot believe he was traded to the Washington Bullets AND his jersey has not been retired. The Knicks need to make this happen!!
Nicks hate for Jokic is so deep it’s actually become funny
Valid Nick. Good start. Provided facts, actually reason, no bias, legit breakdown of the players playoff moments and legacy moments. Great start. Your hint of defense gives me Rodman, Gary Payton, or Sidney moncrief vibes 44-48🤷🏾♂️🤐.
No bias , he detests white players
Can’t wait for the rest of the list. As a Knicks fan it sucks to c King and Anthony so low though.
Great stuff Nba 🔥
Great series
I created a NBA All Time Greatest Tiers a couple years ago. It ended up being the top 155 players of all time but I didnt number them though and went throughout NBA history and that was tough. I can only imagine how much work it took trying to decide who gets left out and who ranks ahead of who in order. Looking forward to seeing how it turned out, although I have a good idea how the end of the list is going to go.
Reggie Miller gets retroactive clout because the 3 became so important and a huge boost from the Knicks battles. I’m with you though Nick.
Facts
Reggie was the second best SG in the league from 93-98. One of the best clutch shooters ever. Like Larry Bird once said of him, anybody can make it when it's tied. Reggie was one of the few who'd make the shot down 1. He was deserving of the clout then and now.
@Raymond Sims what do you think about this?: "miller had some solid playoff runs. a 50 40 90 threat many seasons. stats even better in the playoffs (same efficieny, more volume). we are looking at a 22-28 point scorer in the playoffs on stellar efficiency including deep playoff runs soo... top50 IMO. lets see if iverson is in this top 50 cause that's always the noob test. miller has much better playoff resume, stats, advanced stats (elite win shares, offensive & defensive rating). miller played great into his late thirties. matter of fact remained his offensive to defensive rating gap of a very impressive 12 throughout most of his career, not slipping under 0 even once. iverson has a career -1 difference lol, lebron also 12 for reference. miller true shooting .614 (playoffs .601) is amazing. iverson's is .518 (playoffs .489). lebron's is .588 and we know how efficient lebron is. just goes to show" I posted that comment but I see we have miller discussions going on already so might as well chime in here. have a solid day guys
awesome, finally its here!!
One of the top analysts in the Game.
Love the show nick!
Love it so far Great hahah
Love this.
For those who don't like his list make your own then we can see how you do.
Good stuff Nick
This is awesome
Give Nick wright mvp vote !!
Hey Nick, it's common courtesy to take the minute to order a playlist in a way that the first episode is the first in the list.
This will be awesome
Doncic making it that high but Jokic who had two MVP is as absurd as Dwight not making it the top-75 of NBA list.
How can i get an advanced copy of the upcoming rankings so i can send in a video question??
Yo Nick. Just found this series around the 30's so I'm going back and watching, question... (as Melo is my favorite player) does a ring with LA help him move up? (IF they win and if he's a key role?)
After all those HB I really can't wait to see who made the list. It must be stucked
It’s here!!!!!!! Let’s goooooo
Ngl I think Ray Allen deserves a spot, his playoff stats speak for themself he’s the greatest clutch shooter ever
Ray allen 100% deserves a spot
Luv the channel Nick your a sports gem bro
Nick’s list will be objective. I do have one question: Would D- Wayne be ranked higher without the last two championships?
Yeah this is Nick's life work. Tjis is going to he good. All those days reading NBA Almanacs coming to life
Do the what matters thing every episode please
So happy you have your own podcast nick
This is great
Gotta defend my guy Reggie Miller. His numbers don't seem eye popping but his impact in games was undeniable. First of all he didn't score alot early on and later in his career he took on more of a leadership role and a secondary scorer so that's where the overall scoring average comes down because prime Reggie was more of a 23 to 24 a game scorer. Also his teams were always constructed to where multiple players scored, not just one or two guys.. People think he wasn't a good defender but because he constantly was moving and running around the court he tired out whoever was defending him and in the 4th quarter that mattered also, and with the game on the line he got better. He always rose to the occasion. There is a reason that Michael Jordan (which many proclaims to be the best player ever) considers those pacer teams his hardest match ups and unlike some of the players mentioned he had post season success. I don't have a problem with him being left off the list but to dismiss him completely like he was a bum is simply not right.
Carmelo Anthony isn't on my top 50 of all time list but I can respect your reasoning..
Can you give us a little taste of what you have? (Nba list speaking lololololololol )
Jokic will absolutely be in my top 50 in 5 years.
Adrian Dantley deserves some respect
Jokic with his current resume would already be a better choice than Melo
Bitter fans are the best.
You should go over what exactly your criteria consists of
I’m not sure about you but I decide if a player is better than another by asking these questions:
How much team success and individual accolades did you have as the best player on a team?
The reason I ask that question is because to me, it is far more impressive that Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Clyde Drexler led their teams to the finals than it is that Scottie Pippen won 6 championships as the number 2 option or James Worthy winning championships as the 3rd option. But I would give a guy like Dirk the nod over Malone, Barkley, Drexler.
No Pau Gasol honorable mention? Manu Ginobilli?
He is going for certain type of players. No role players or gaudy scoring stats guys. Melo is abit curious but he has longevity and no matter the list, gonna be some bias which is ok with me.
Did Kawhi make it?
Nick should've put this in a book. He may have got an AP vote
WE WANT SKIP BAYLESS ON THIS SHOW!!
I know this gonna be good
This should still be a book or paper
Wait…
How can you say Nikola Jokic is just an honorable mention due to not doing it long enough.
Yet, you place Luka in your top 20… who’s been in LESS than Jokic!?
And hasn’t accomplished what Jokic has!?
2x mvp.. been to a western conference finals, which is just as far as Luka has been.
Similar stats, especially PER.
nba has had great players generally though the years
I agree on Wes Unseld, his career always seemed weird to me, and all is known for is rebounds
The funny thing is that he's known for his rebounds, but wasn't able to beat 35yo, hampered by injuries Wilt in that department either. Like, what are we even talking about...
How is embiid on list ova
Jokic wcf appearance n mvp
I have Elvin Hayes as my most underrated player in nba history, people never mention him but he’s one of the greats
The reason Elvin Hayes gets knocked is because he and the team needed Wes Unsled to 1. Stoke Elvin's Ego so he would play hard like they needed him . 2. Wes to do the Rebounding and dirty work and be the enforcer . That's why Wes got the credit for that team and later jobs with Bullets/ Wizards.
@@bryanttisdale2446 doesn’t matter, he was never better than Elvin. And he definitely wasn’t better in those finals
@@larrylegend545 Wes unseld was a Mvp and Rookie of the yr in same yr. He was a powerful undersized Rebounder like Barkley. It mattered to the team and Organization. That's why Wes got every job in the organization. The owners were grateful and loved him. 😅 lol
Wes was Coach, G.M. head of basketball what ever he wanted. Elvin by alot of accounts was a handful to handle with his ego. But yeah Elvin Hayes could score inside with the best 'em no doubt 💯 👌.
Bernard king.....my entry player into the NBA
So Nick took Bernard King over Tracy McGrady because Bernard King won ONE (1) playoff series & had injuries? Great start to the list 👍🏻
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I’ll never understand the sign and trade for the players side if winning is the goal. “Look a team that’s really good and maybe missing a piece like me to win, let’s trade those pieces for me and be about the same record wise and I get paid!”
My Guy Nick 🤗💯
This is very fun. You and Bill Simmons should do a pod together discussing your list. I think it's fitting since his Book of Basketball was all about ranking individual players, I'm sure y'all would have some fun disagreements.
I’m still waiting on Simmons to invite Broussard or Nick to his pod for a basketball conversation. Would be one of his most listened to episodes.
I guess it’s too soon to call him crazy, but some of the names he already left off got me feeling like he might be crazy.
Make your own list, + reasons why and post it. Then we can judge your reasons why or why not this guy or this guy.
Great analysis, but Melo lost to the Pacers in round 2.
Thank you:)
Not a huge omissions. But the Reson Wes unseld got credit for Bullets Championship and not Elvin Hayes. Because Wes had to stroke Hayes Ego to get him to play like they needed him. He also had to do the dirty work, Rebounding , defense, enforcer. That's why Wes got credit "and jobs with the bullets/Wizards " . He was the leader.
🤔 interesting point
Do you think peak Melo was in Nuggets or Knicks?
Stop it. 2009 was obviously Melo's absolute peak.
Melo didn’t understand how good he had it in Denver. That team covered up his flaws on defense and in terms of leadership. He just needed a younger slightly better version of Chauncey. That’s where Melo got unlucky. Melo and CP would have been a great pairing.
So TMac was Luka and vice-versa?
Here before people argue in the comments for years
Honestly I feel like there's quite a recency bias here. I can't very well say I think 'Melo and King should make it over Cowens and Unseld were were league MVPs and NBA champions. I could see with Unseld maybe saying that was the worst MVP and Championship fine but then you have John Havlicek who played 7 years in this span and won 2 Championships, a finals MVP, was named all NBA first team 3 times, all NBA second team twice and 4x all defensive first team.
King made his teams better, whereas I'm not sure that Melo ever did.
We all know he's gonna pick Lebron James as #1 on his all time list, when it really should be Michael Jordan.
Who cares? His opinion doesn’t mean anything concrete. I’m more interested to see where he ranks everyone else and to hear about their careers
It should be lebron
It should be whoever Nick thinks is number 1. If Jordan is your number 1 then that should be enough for you. It’s not like Jordan and Lebron ever crossed basketball paths. It really is all a matter of opinion. We have no facts of how they would have faired against each other.
I'm not mad he didn't make the list of top 50, but why didn't Alonzo Mourning even make the honorable mentions list?
Wilt Chamberlain did enough to have him as the "Babe ruth of basketball" for me. I don't understand anyone not having him top 4
He didn’t win enough for me. The year he won the title with the Lakers, he averaged 14 ppg.
@@omieg89 It was the end of his career, plus he was the facilitator of the team, a defensive anchor, and grabbed more rebounds than any player today could imagine
@@DFJW45 but that’s my point. When he was easily the most dominant player then he should have overpowered teams of that era to at least 2 more titles in his prime. They say Wilt could bench press more than Shaq and that he was a track and field high jump champion. So he was like an athlete of today playing against far less athletic players. And he still couldn’t make it count towards winning. It wasn’t until he accepted a Bill Russell type of role that he won another championship and frankly he wasn’t as good at that role as Bill Russell was.
@@omieg89 No I totally agree. I think he’s like James Harden in the way that he’s a phenomenal player, his stats show how great he is, but his way of playing just didn’t translate into winning as often as we would have liked it too.
But in a vacuum if I were to be asked who is the best basketball player I couldn’t realistically name more than 3 guys above Wilt. He simply did whatever he wanted to, whenever he wanted to, to whomever he wanted to. If it was scoring 50 PPG, leading the league in APG, playing every minute of every game, scoring 100, getting a quadruple double, it didn’t matter.
@@DFJW45 i personally have Wilt 11th and outside of my top ten. But I respect anyone who has him higher. For me, it doesn’t add up. I also have heard that a lot of the players of that era even say Russell was a better player than Wilt.
If you gonna have carmelo in the list. Pierce and ray allen should def be on it also
Melo's best year with knicks they actually lost to the pacers not the heat
that's what Nick said. He lost to the pacers that went 7 games with the heat.
You can’t have 3 top 75 players and miss the play-in. End of discussion
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All of them are past their prime except ad who missed 40 games…
Howard, Westbrook and Melo are all shells of themselves.
Im a big Tracy fan but I agree his playoff career was not what it should of been
No help on Orlando
@@thereal1kmoney308 agree Orlando didn't have the talent and he was injured a lot with Houston
Dude you should still write a book. Huge pictures coffee table style
I really dont understand what Nick have against Jokic... Not top 50 last 50 years? Really.? Jokic carrer NOW is better than Melo... You dont have to put him at the top, but out of the list is just too crazy.
Jokic has more sucess in the playoffs than Bernard King too. I just dont understand.
Jokic only been a superstar for 2 years. He gotta show consistency
9:29 they lost to pacers, not Lebron. Also the idea the Knicks traded all these assets is laughable. The only two players in the trade that mattered were Galo and Felton. Galo was ok, and they got Felton back in free agency like a year later.
The point is that they did trade some assets and all Melo had to do was wait for the end of the season and the Knicks get to keep the players and more importantly, the first round pick.
Glad someone pointed out that tidbit. Important to keep details correct
Alex English is maybe my favorite player of all time. No, that is Hakeem Olajuwon.
you know nicks old school when he asks you to rate the video lol
Bro you can't take that Pistons series against TMac. That wasnt yet the 04 championship team, but was still one of the best defenses in the league, and TMac had basically no help.
#1 will be 🚮 but let's see how the rest shape up
Nick, I think Melo lost to pacers in 2 round of that year. Not the heat. Let me know if I’m wrong. Btw, love Melo.
You’re right, the 54-win 2013 team lost to the Pacers in round 2. The 2012 Knicks lost to the Heat in the first round.
you my guy but Paul should be on this list
Yeah 8 teams in the whole league for Bill Russell… meaning only three others teams in the East. Bill Russell played against the same three centers every game in the east and was 3-5 inches taller. Every wilt Russell matchup he can’t contain the Stilt. Russell had way underrated legends on his team. Cousy would still be a legend in todays game.
So we are doing four per week for 12 weeks on Sunday?
I'm in buddy!!
I don't think there's a world where jokic doesn't finish his career ahead of Melo lol
Nba careers can be tricky, as you see with Bernard King. It's easy to project but many things can happen.
This is really the top 50 players period. The NBA before 1970 wasnt a real league and thats why Russell is disqualified with all his rings and Wilt is disqualified with all his records. They simply played in a league that consisted of part time players you might see at your local gym.
I assume he will have Dwight considering he said an omission of the Top 75. Also he will have AD even though his resume (especially w/o Lebron) is worse than Jokic.
Ad has been a mvp candidate basically every year since 2016 (except the last 2 years). Jokic has only been a superstar for 2 years
I don't assume anything. Dwight yes, ad idk
@@denimjeg that doesn’t make any sense. You are saying AD has been a superstar every year since 2016. Well, you excluded the first 4 years of his career. If you did the same for Jokic, he’s been a superstar, MVP, and has had more playoff success as the lead guy.
@@omieg89 ad was a mvp candidate in his 3rd year so I really should’ve said since 2014
@@denimjeg AD MVP candidate 😂. The highest he has ever finished was 3rd and 5th and he has NEVER gotten a single first place vote. Jokic is on his way to his 2nd straight MVP.
I'm just curious how low he will put Jordan. I believe all other placements will be excellent and well done. But I assume Lebron will be 1. I just don't know who he will put at 2 or 3.
I imagine Kareem might be 2.
He doesn’t use the Olympics (or Team USA) in this because it would be a knock against his guy, LeBron.
This is an nba list. Body of work basketball, college , international, Olympics, off the court stuff is another list.
@@Kruppt808 exactly. Plus if this was about basketball aside from NBA, Lebron would get a ton of credit for being a top 2 high school player of all time.
Dave cowens is almost indefensible to not have on the list. Mvp, two time champion, etc. Especially with Bernard king at the 50th spot.
Yeah I honestly don’t understand how Cowens misses the list. You couldn’t name 25 players with that resume.
@@omieg89 the reason why is cus he was from the 70s his play style isn't pleasing to the eye and he's white. But he has to be on the list if you think things like mvps and championships are important
Why the hate for Reggie Miller who was better in the playoffs than the regular season and knock him for that. Made multiple eastern conference finals in the harder conference and when finally making a Finals appearance took Shaq and Kobe to game 6 in both their primes
I wanna come on the show
Right off the bat I have a problem with you excluding players because they’re too old. You’re starting at Kareem’s rookie year but a lot of Kareem’s best competition isn’t even included on the list. I think you made an error and should have just included everybody that you thought was in the top 50.
Paul pierce was third best celtics on the team omg nick you crazy
I love how in one breath he can give melo a pass for losing with lesser teams and in another breath criticize tmac for losing with far lesser teams in his playoff runs. I'm sorry but pat garrity and Gordon giricic dont really stack up to Billups, ben Wallace, Tayshuan prince, and RIP Hamilton. Name one team he was on that was better than the team that beat him? It was a miracle he made it to a game 7 with the teams he was on
I agree. I made my own list of 50 just to follow along with Nick and I excluded Melo for that reason and included T-Mac.
Nick. It is kinda unfair for Jokic. You honestly would rather have melo over Jokic??