@Mister Brash And we both know…TMac was at his apex in Orlando…not with Yao. Although he does one of the best clutch moments ever in Houston…majority would say he was at his best with the Magic…where his supporting cast was below average
I’ve learned so much about basketball history from this man lol. His hot takes can be a little much, but I’m loving all this history. It’s useful when I’m debating hoops with people
lol he is fraud and be exposed on youtube and he cannot speak without mention Jordan he mention greatest defenders who is not center and he mention Rodman, Pippen and Harper and he mentioned Jordan and critized just ridicouls because Jordan is better defender then Harper and Pippen. Rodman is better but Jordan is also top 10 defender.
Nick, you need to have guests like NBA players and NFL players…your show will go to the next level along with your knowledge of the game that’s already unmatched
Shoutout to Nick with the tease for #43. I’m calling it now before next week’s video drops - it has to Dwight Howard. Based on the names in this video, defense clearly matters and Howard was one of the best defenders of his generation at his peak. Plus, Howard not making the Top 75 team was criminal. Looking forward to Nick giving him his due flowers.
Really hope he is. Dwight carried a well rounded but not so talented to the Finals by himself, 3x DPOY, at his peak he was clearly the best big man in the league and a top 5 player. I don't know who made the top 75, but Dwight was supposed to be there.
It's weird to me that Rodman would be contentious. Best defender and rebounding monster on 5 title teams for two franchises - one a repeat and one a threepeat? Best undersized rebounder of all time? Top 5 rebounder of all time regardless of size? One of the most durable players? It's easy to imagine all 5 of those championship teams losing without Rodman.
I don't think it is. It's easy to imagine the Showtime Lakers losing without James Worthy, etc. Jordan's six championship teams were really good *teams*. He was the best player on them.
James Worthy had the nick name “Big Game James” back in college. Nick, you are correct on Worthy’s assessment on the 81-82 UNC team, Worthy won MVP scoring 28 points. While in the NBA, Worthy was a key cog running on the wing for the Showtime Lakers. He was known for his quick first step scoring ability.
Nick has to mention what Era these guys played in when talking first team allpro. If you played Guard in the 90's or forward since 2010 1 spot has been reserved 😅
I love the setup of this list. Honoring older players that would be on the list, but having the Kareem cut off. The 49 and 50 ranks are the two best of all of the could be on the list players. 44-48 is a definite step up in players and feels justified.
@@titankiller5287 Definitely Jerry West was wrong about that, but it shows how much respect another great player had for him. West was torn between Worthy and Wilkens.
@@michaelfrazia4569 Worthy was not as good on offense but better on defense. Worthy did force a game 5 against the 93 Suns, which featured Barkley who was the MVP that year. So he was no slouch.I think him and Wilkens are equal.
@@bilalmallick8428 loved worthy...I liked his stoic presence...after Kareem faded he brought a steady mind to the team...dominique is my alltime favorite player , but he was limited in certain areas....he may have averaged 50 a game with magic feeding him , but then they better have 4 good defendeders cleaning up on the other end lol....Worthy was the better fit most likely out of he and Wilkins. I just wish dominique got to play with some other great players...guy had noone in his prime
My dad told me recently that he saw Tiny and Wilt play in person when they played for the KC Kings, and he mentioned the team also being partly from Omaha?? Crazy stuff
I'm glad he got it right with Rodman and Worthy. In regards to Rodman, the only thing I would correct, is the fact the lady said he couldn't score. He CHOSE not to concentrate on scoring. His career high is 34 points, so that proved he had the ability to do it. Also, he was such an underrated passer, as his passing abilities were more noticed in the triangle offense during the Bulls dynasty. And him making only 2 all star teams, and not getting the 96 Finals MVP, had more to do with politics, because of his image and how the media perceived him. Worthy was just a victim of being in Showtime and overshadowed by Kareem and Magic.. Good to see Moncrief earning his flowers.
I like Nick’ logic. If you’re one of the best to do a particular aspect of the game, then you’re one of the best o play the game. Like Steph-best shooter of all time, so he has to be one of the best players. Or Shaq-who was the very best at being bigger than everybody else and not really much else lol
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Gotta day Nicks right Sydney. And Worthy are great picks. As far as Rodman u are 100 %. And note got the ppl. That ddnt see the worm. At his height he was a force to be reckoned with he was in your head and cannot be ever forgotten in NBA lore weather u liked him or not. To. Me Legendary 🐐🔥🔥🔥
Honestly, when he's not fanboying over LeBron or Mahomes, Nick is easily one of the best sports personalities to listen to. Love his knowledge about the history of the game
Dominique going to Greece is cool, he is hard to rank though. I know about who he played against, but never making even a conference finals has to be held against him. If he made one he's much higher on the list.
Nick talking about how crazy deep the East was back then is why I discount some of the titles the Lakers accrued. When the Lakers waltzed every year to the Finals by beating tissue soft teams they played teams that had just had 2 or 3 grueling series and were worn out and had nothing left. Getting to the ECF was harder than getting to the Finals out of the West
🛑The playoffs expanded to 12 teams in 1977 (1st year post-merger) then 16 teams in 1984. Division champs had a 1st Round Bye until then. ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• Bird was 6-0 in the EC1stRd between 80’-88’: *N/A 80’-82’➡️Atlantic Division Champ* ______________________________________ *83’* v. #6 43 Win ATL, *84’* v. #8 35 Win WSH, *85’* v. #8 36 Win CLE, *86’* v. #8 30 Win CHI, *87’* v. #8 40 Win CHI, *‘88* v. #8 38 Win NYK). *⏺Average Reg. Season Win Total⏩37* Bird was 8-1 in the ECSF between 1980-88’: ______________________________________ *80’* v. #4 41 Win HOU, *81’* v. #5 45 Win CHI, *82’* v. #5 43 Win WSH, *83’ v. #2 51 Win MIL* , *84’* v. #5 47 Win NYK, *85’* v. #4 46 Win DET, *86’* v. #4 50 Win ATL, *87’* v. #4 50 Win MIL, *88’* v. #4 50 Win ATL). *⏺Average Reg. Season Win Total⏩47* Lastly, he’s 5-3 in the ECF between 80’-88’: ______________________________________ ( *80’ v. #3 59 Win PHI* , 81’ v. #3 62 Win PHI, *82’ v. #3 58 Win PHI* , 84’ v. #2 50 Win MIL, 85’ v. #3 58 Win PHI, 86’ v. #2 57 Win MIL, 87’ v. #3 52 Win DET *88’ v. #2 54 Win DET* ). *⏺Average Reg. Season Win Total⏩56* 🔘 *His only ECSF loss came in 1983 being swept by the 51 Win MIL-where he missed Game 2* 🔘 *His three losses in the ECF came in 1980, 1982, and 1988* *{59 Win PHI, 58 Win PHI & 54 Win DET}.* ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• Magic was 6-1 in the WC1stRd between 80’-89’: *N/A 80’, 82’ & 83’➡️Pacific Division Champ* ______________________________________ ( *81’ v. #6 40 Win HOU* , *84’* v. #8 38 Win KCK, *85’* v. #8 36 Win PHO, *86’* v. #8 35 Win SAS, *87’* v. #8 37 Win DEN, *88’* v. #8 31 Win SAS, *89’* v. #8 39 Win POR). *⏺Average Reg. Season Win Total⏩37* Magic was 9-0 in the WCSF between 80’-89’: ______________________________________ *80’* v. #4 55 Win PHO, *82’* v. #5 46 Win PHO, *83’* v. #5 46 Win POR, *84’* v. #4 43 Win DAL, *85’* v. #5 42 Win POR, *86’* v. #4 44 Win DAL, *87’* v. #5 42 Win GSW, *88’* v. #5 47 Win UTA, *89’* v. #4 47 Win SEA). *⏺Average Reg. Season Win Total⏩46* Lastly, he’s 8-1 in the WCF between 80’-89’: ______________________________________ *80’* v. #3 56 Win SEA, *82’* v. #2 48 Win SAS, *83’* v. #2 53 Win SAS, *84’* v. #6 41 Win PHO, *85’* v. #2 52 Win DEN, *86’ v. #2 51 Win HOU* , *87’* v. #7 39 Win SEA, *88’* v. #3 53 Win DAL, *89’* v. #3 55 Win PHO). *⏺Average Reg. Season Win Total⏩50* 🔘 *His only 1st Round loss came to the 40 Win HOU in 1981.* 🔘 *His only WCF loss came to the 51 Win HOU in 1986.*
@@rustycohle7779 now add the context 🤷🏾♂️ Are we going by just the wins, the talent of the teams relative to the year or their career overall, the teams performance in the regular season vs. the postseason, etc… I did my part.
Based off your statement off “getting to the ECF was harder than winning the WCF” in this decade, that seems to be false. You can see how it’s virtually deadlocked “the level of competition” both Magic & Bird had to face in order to get to the Conference Finals. However what I can agree with (to an extent) is that “the level of competition” Bird faced in the ECF was a little stronger than what Magic faced in the WCF. But you need to dig deep and see how these teams got to where they were seeded. Ie. 1982 ECF, 1984 WCF, & 1987 WCF
Ok. The West may have been weaker than the East. However, that doesn't change the fact that they won the majority of those Finals once they got there. That shows that the Lakers probably would have made most of the Finals if they were in the East since they beat the best the East have to offer. It's different from, by comparison, what LeBron did with 8 straight Finals appearances coming out of the East, which barely had 2 or 3 real threats in the East dueing those 8 seasons. But then he went 3-5 in the Finals. That indicates that he probably wouldn't have made it to 8 straight Finals if he was in the West because he couldn't beat the best of the West for the majority of those Finals.
I could listen to this dude talk about sports all day. He can get a little whiny sometimes (though I suspect that’s more of a FTF gimmick to create good opposing viewpoints with Brou and Wildes) and you can disagree with what he says but he always brings justifiable reasons why he thinks a certain way on a topic. Miss him and CC too
Rodman is a 1st ballot HOF but he's not a top 50 player of the last 50 years, Rodman is in the same tier as guys like Cooper, Manu, Dumars etc. There's like 20 guy off the top of my head who aren't on this list that are clearly better/greater than Rodman.
The caller is nuts to say rodman was not a good passer! I know for a fact she didnt watch 80's and 90's basketball. Rodman was known for being a good passer, AND he was locking up legends. Unlike draymond who locks up nobodies...cant even remember the last time draymond locked a star up for a series.
The reason no one talk about Jordan losing in 85 his second season is the same way we don't talk about lebron not making playoffs in his second season...
Teams that were led by these guys were all eliminated from the playoffs by teams w/ Dennis Rodman: Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Moses Malone, Dikembe Mutombo, Dominique Wilkins, Bernard King, Sidney Moncrief, Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, and Clyde Drexler.
Not going to lie, I compared Melo career to D Wilkins thinking Melo had the better career, but in reality Dom was way more impressive than I thought. Statistically and accolade wise, Wilkins kind of has the edge and defense was neither ones strong suit. Because of the Celtics/Spurs/Magic stints, I assumed Wilkins career average was lower. PS- You do seem a bit biased on the reasoning for playoffs though. Melo as a rookie lost to KG MVP level, Duncan 2x , lost to BOS big three 2x, Heat Big 3, Kobe 2x. Looking forward to seeing rest of list. Idk if I just missed it in last episode but hoping Draymond on this and wasnt a miss. If Rodman is on here, I think Draymond has to be, he impacted offense far more than Rodman and was the defensive engine for a team that made like 5 or 6 straight finals lol
@@markozbunjol625 it’s not a myth because no one talks about it. Jordan shot 41% in the series. By far his worst finals. Rodman was the main reason they won 2 of the 4 games
 You do realize the guy Rodman was defending was Shawn Kemp and he had the best performance in that Finals. So Rodman was only good for Rebounding that series.
Nick you're not going to get away with this. You give Dominique all the praise and deservingly so for hanging in there with a lesser team going up against Boston and Milwaukee, but you can't use that argument and at the same time say Jordan with a even lesser team than Dominique, going up against those same opponents in the mid eighties, you don't give Michael the same pass and I believe Jordan was younger, his team was worse than the Hawks, and he had a severe foot injury in 85, Nick stop it.
Correction Nick @ 14:00 Those are $150 Clase Azul Reposado bottles not the $2000 Ultra...Know your Liquor pal, next thing youl be saying is Lebron is better than Jordan...
i HATE this bout some NBA fans. they put TOO MUCH weight on Scoring. RODMAN & even DRAYMOND have had more effect on their teams Winning then some guys who averaged 25ppg. It's a shame that defense or the All Around game doesn't get more respect
@@Bickle121 Yeah, today's game is soft. You can't hardly breathe around anyone these days. Also, there was no zone back then either, so it was every man for themselves.
in Rodman's prime the Pistons were average and the Spurs choked in the playoffs partially because Rodman refused to guard the jump shooter(short 3-line in '95) selfishly trying to pad his rebounding stats... got traded for Will Perdue straight up... in NBA Finals with Bulls Rodman would randomly chuck up jumpers AFTER spending the season passing on open putbacks after an offensive rebound scared he would get blocked or he would just miss the layup... Rodman played 4789 playoff minutes, Horace Grant played 6172 playoff minutes... Dennis Rodman is clearly NOT a top 50 player of last 50 years in NBA... fax!!!
Lemme guess - the guy with the worst brand of ball ever will be #1.. The guy whose frontcourt ball-dominant skillset ties a coach's hands and forces them to employ a simpleton, low team assist brand where 1 guy hogs the team's assists.. It's a paper tiger that requires ridiculous supporting to win. The #1 guy never learned how to win (brand of ball, organic) and only learned how to team-hop (talent-based winning.. all-star team strategy).. Talent-based winners that have worst-ever brand of ball and therefore needs super-teams aren't top 10.. He also lacks the elite jumpshooting skill to defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load in Finals).. his big man ball-dominance needs sooooooo much scoring help.. he needs all-time elite scorers at sidekick and another elite scorer at 3rd option, or he needs AD the lead the scoring.. It's called talent-based winning.. woat brand of ball..
Hence why despite all the talent he has played with throughout his team hopping career, he's 4-6 in the Finals, one of which required a worldwide pandemic, lockdowns, and a bubble environment which nobody else wanted to be playing in.
Wow why nobody ever talk about bulls losing to the bucks…media will let you believe it was only the great Celtics and bad boy pistons he couldn’t get pass 😂😂
Worthy over Nique is blasphemous.. I'm sorry.. I'll take Allen over Nate only for the 3pts and chips.. also Allen had a better career post Jesus Shuttlesworth form
Man I watched up to the top 30 and I quit! This dude does nothing but take shots at Jordan while literally make 2nd place MVP finishes a thing! My dude nobody cares who came in 2nd place in an MVP conversation! Also it's hard to take anything he says to your bank when he defends LeBron at all cost! Guys like nick wright make sports opinions hard to value!
lol he is fraud and be exposed on youtube and he cannot speak without mention Jordan he mention greatest defenders who is not center and he mention Rodman, Pippen and Harper and he mentioned Jordan and critized just ridicouls because Jordan is better defender then Harper and Pippen. Rodman is better but Jordan is also top 10 defender.
Not ignoring it, just explain the correlation of Dennis Rodman's high rebounding game and it's effect in the matchup between Gary Payton defending Micheal Jordan effectively.
lol he is fraud and be exposed on youtube and he cannot speak without mention Jordan he mention greatest defenders who is not center and he mention Rodman, Pippen and Harper and he mentioned Jordan and critized just ridicouls because Jordan is better defender then Harper and Pippen. Rodman is better but Jordan is also top 10 defender.
@@crazytrain111 and again bases the opinion on a hypothetical situation like James Worthy IF he is playing on another team MAYBE he finishes top 5 in mvp lol this is all hypothetical and Nick Wrong once again create "arghment" on hypothetical theory lol. Its like imagine Hakeem with Magic. Ok, i can imagine, Hakeem is to me GOAT because in hypothetical he will be if playing with Magic. I mean, this is all Nick Wrong, he is fraud.
Who belongs and who doesn't?
Is Klay on the list? He belongs. Some of his stats are other worldly!!
Just saying….if Tmac isn’t up there then A.I. shouldn’t be up there either
@Mister Brash A.I. definitely had more help tho…sixth man and DPOY were on that team
@Mister Brash curious…how many playoff series did A.I. win with out Dikembe? Real question no sarcasm.
@Mister Brash And we both know…TMac was at his apex in Orlando…not with Yao. Although he does one of the best clutch moments ever in Houston…majority would say he was at his best with the Magic…where his supporting cast was below average
I’ve learned so much about basketball history from this man lol. His hot takes can be a little much, but I’m loving all this history. It’s useful when I’m debating hoops with people
Probably not a good idea to solely get your basketball knowledge from him 😅
@TennisPro17 why? He's correct. LeBron is the greatest ever and Michael is second.
lol he is fraud and be exposed on youtube and he cannot speak without mention Jordan he mention greatest defenders who is not center and he mention Rodman, Pippen and Harper and he mentioned Jordan and critized just ridicouls because Jordan is better defender then Harper and Pippen. Rodman is better but Jordan is also top 10 defender.
@@yelsu3358 he don’t even have Micheal 2nd lol 😂
i hope your joking
This series is awesome!! Happy to see the James Worthy respect
so glad someone put respect on Moncrief's name...he might really be the most underrated (certainly most overlooked) player in NBA history
Nick, you need to have guests like NBA players and NFL players…your show will go to the next level along with your knowledge of the game that’s already unmatched
I was thinking the same thing. Would be really cool to bring on someone like Sidney Moncrief and hear his opinion.
Shoutout to Nick with the tease for #43. I’m calling it now before next week’s video drops - it has to Dwight Howard. Based on the names in this video, defense clearly matters and Howard was one of the best defenders of his generation at his peak. Plus, Howard not making the Top 75 team was criminal. Looking forward to Nick giving him his due flowers.
Really hope he is. Dwight carried a well rounded but not so talented to the Finals by himself, 3x DPOY, at his peak he was clearly the best big man in the league and a top 5 player. I don't know who made the top 75, but Dwight was supposed to be there.
It's weird to me that Rodman would be contentious. Best defender and rebounding monster on 5 title teams for two franchises - one a repeat and one a threepeat? Best undersized rebounder of all time? Top 5 rebounder of all time regardless of size? One of the most durable players? It's easy to imagine all 5 of those championship teams losing without Rodman.
That’s a pretty condemning taking on Jordan.
@@ThanosMahomes how is that condemning? Jordan isn’t God, it’s very possible for any championship team to lose without one of their best players
I don't think it is. It's easy to imagine the Showtime Lakers losing without James Worthy, etc. Jordan's six championship teams were really good *teams*. He was the best player on them.
Much respect for all the work that went into this brilliant series.
James Worthy had the nick name “Big Game James” back in college. Nick, you are correct on Worthy’s assessment on the 81-82 UNC team, Worthy won MVP scoring 28 points. While in the NBA, Worthy was a key cog running on the wing for the Showtime Lakers. He was known for his quick first step scoring ability.
This is terrific!
The 🐐 GOAT of drip and sports talk
Love Nick Wright. My favorite guy in sports. Would be interested in being a call in for this top 50. How do we make that happen?!
Its worth noting in the Hawks vs Celtics game 7 Doc Rivers when 0/3 from 3 and lost them that game
Dennis Rodman is one of the greatest NBA players of all time. Insanely underrated!
Absolutely
He was a "Basketball" player.
Finally someone puts some respect to the 80s
Hakeem yes, but Tim Duncan is not a better defender than Rodman. Thanks for the list. This is great.
Nick has to mention what Era these guys played in when talking first team allpro. If you played Guard in the 90's or forward since 2010 1 spot has been reserved 😅
I love the setup of this list. Honoring older players that would be on the list, but having the Kareem cut off. The 49 and 50 ranks are the two best of all of the could be on the list players. 44-48 is a definite step up in players and feels justified.
Thank you for your love for Moncrief. Jerry West wanted to draft Moncrief over Magic.
Sidney is a good player but he would’ve been extremely wrong
@@titankiller5287 Definitely Jerry West was wrong about that, but it shows how much respect another great player had for him. West was torn between Worthy and Wilkens.
@@bilalmallick8428 I respect worthys game..he was a solid part of showtime, but holy cow, imagine magic feeding the human highlight film
@@michaelfrazia4569 Worthy was not as good on offense but better on defense. Worthy did force a game 5 against the 93 Suns, which featured Barkley who was the MVP that year. So he was no slouch.I think him and Wilkens are equal.
@@bilalmallick8428 loved worthy...I liked his stoic presence...after Kareem faded he brought a steady mind to the team...dominique is my alltime favorite player , but he was limited in certain areas....he may have averaged 50 a game with magic feeding him , but then they better have 4 good defendeders cleaning up on the other end lol....Worthy was the better fit most likely out of he and Wilkins. I just wish dominique got to play with some other great players...guy had noone in his prime
Melo had a game very similar to Dominques game 7 in Boston, Game 6 in 2011 in Boston Melo dropped 42.
My dad told me recently that he saw Tiny and Wilt play in person when they played for the KC Kings, and he mentioned the team also being partly from Omaha?? Crazy stuff
Really good take on Moncrief
Nick: I’m not including anybody too old
Also nick: you might recognize Tiny from the Kansas City Kings!
Is the dennis the best defensive player of all time? Atleast top 5 or 3.
Respect for your knowledge of the Association
Can’t wait should be intriguing fosho 🍿
love the series.
I'm glad he got it right with Rodman and Worthy.
In regards to Rodman, the only thing I would correct, is the fact the lady said he couldn't score. He CHOSE not to concentrate on scoring. His career high is 34 points, so that proved he had the ability to do it. Also, he was such an underrated passer, as his passing abilities were more noticed in the triangle offense during the Bulls dynasty. And him making only 2 all star teams, and not getting the 96 Finals MVP, had more to do with politics, because of his image and how the media perceived him.
Worthy was just a victim of being in Showtime and overshadowed by Kareem and Magic..
Good to see Moncrief earning his flowers.
Hey Nick, you should make a visual pyramid for the end of this series!
I love the intro music😄
Love you nick, my favorite sports media commentator other than Shannon Sharpe
How do I call in to comment on rankings?
show is fenomenal. nick please change the backgorund
It’s roll out for this over three yrs was really good marketing.
That shirt is 🔥
I didn't know this about Moncrief. He should be top 75.
I like Nick’ logic. If you’re one of the best to do a particular aspect of the game, then you’re one of the best o play the game. Like Steph-best shooter of all time, so he has to be one of the best players. Or Shaq-who was the very best at being bigger than everybody else and not really much else lol
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Gotta day Nicks right Sydney. And Worthy are great picks. As far as Rodman u are 100 %. And note got the ppl. That ddnt see the worm. At his height he was a force to be reckoned with he was in your head and cannot be ever forgotten in NBA lore weather u liked him or not. To. Me Legendary 🐐🔥🔥🔥
Honestly, when he's not fanboying over LeBron or Mahomes, Nick is easily one of the best sports personalities to listen to. Love his knowledge about the history of the game
Dominique going to Greece is cool, he is hard to rank though. I know about who he played against, but never making even a conference finals has to be held against him. If he made one he's much higher on the list.
Nick talking about how crazy deep the East was back then is why I discount some of the titles the Lakers accrued. When the Lakers waltzed every year to the Finals by beating tissue soft teams they played teams that had just had 2 or 3 grueling series and were worn out and had nothing left. Getting to the ECF was harder than getting to the Finals out of the West
🛑The playoffs expanded to 12 teams in 1977 (1st year post-merger)
then 16 teams in 1984.
Division champs had a 1st Round Bye until then.
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Bird was 6-0 in the EC1stRd between 80’-88’:
*N/A 80’-82’➡️Atlantic Division Champ*
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*85’* v. #8 36 Win CLE, *86’* v. #8 30 Win CHI,
*87’* v. #8 40 Win CHI, *‘88* v. #8 38 Win NYK).
*⏺Average Reg. Season Win Total⏩37*
Bird was 8-1 in the ECSF between 1980-88’:
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*80’* v. #4 41 Win HOU, *81’* v. #5 45 Win CHI,
*82’* v. #5 43 Win WSH, *83’ v. #2 51 Win MIL* ,
*84’* v. #5 47 Win NYK, *85’* v. #4 46 Win DET,
*86’* v. #4 50 Win ATL, *87’* v. #4 50 Win MIL,
*88’* v. #4 50 Win ATL).
*⏺Average Reg. Season Win Total⏩47*
Lastly, he’s 5-3 in the ECF between 80’-88’:
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81’ v. #3 62 Win PHI, *82’ v. #3 58 Win PHI* ,
84’ v. #2 50 Win MIL, 85’ v. #3 58 Win PHI,
86’ v. #2 57 Win MIL, 87’ v. #3 52 Win DET
*88’ v. #2 54 Win DET* ).
*⏺Average Reg. Season Win Total⏩56*
🔘 *His only ECSF loss came in 1983 being swept by the 51 Win MIL-where he missed Game 2*
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Magic was 6-1 in the WC1stRd between 80’-89’:
*N/A 80’, 82’ & 83’➡️Pacific Division Champ*
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*84’* v. #8 38 Win KCK, *85’* v. #8 36 Win PHO,
*86’* v. #8 35 Win SAS, *87’* v. #8 37 Win DEN,
*88’* v. #8 31 Win SAS, *89’* v. #8 39 Win POR).
*⏺Average Reg. Season Win Total⏩37*
Magic was 9-0 in the WCSF between 80’-89’:
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*80’* v. #4 55 Win PHO, *82’* v. #5 46 Win PHO,
*83’* v. #5 46 Win POR, *84’* v. #4 43 Win DAL,
*85’* v. #5 42 Win POR, *86’* v. #4 44 Win DAL,
*87’* v. #5 42 Win GSW, *88’* v. #5 47 Win UTA,
*89’* v. #4 47 Win SEA).
*⏺Average Reg. Season Win Total⏩46*
Lastly, he’s 8-1 in the WCF between 80’-89’:
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*80’* v. #3 56 Win SEA, *82’* v. #2 48 Win SAS,
*83’* v. #2 53 Win SAS, *84’* v. #6 41 Win PHO,
*85’* v. #2 52 Win DEN, *86’ v. #2 51 Win HOU* ,
*87’* v. #7 39 Win SEA, *88’* v. #3 53 Win DAL,
*89’* v. #3 55 Win PHO).
*⏺Average Reg. Season Win Total⏩50*
🔘 *His only 1st Round loss came to the 40 Win HOU in 1981.*
🔘 *His only WCF loss came to the 51 Win HOU in 1986.*
@@tyjohnson3111 Thank you for the data backing up my point
@@rustycohle7779 now add the context 🤷🏾♂️
Are we going by just the wins, the talent of the teams relative to the year or their career overall, the teams performance in the regular season vs. the postseason, etc…
I did my part.
Based off your statement off “getting to the ECF was harder than winning the WCF” in this decade, that seems to be false.
You can see how it’s virtually deadlocked “the level of competition” both Magic & Bird had to face in order to get to the Conference Finals.
However what I can agree with (to an extent)
is that “the level of competition” Bird faced in the ECF was a little stronger than what Magic faced in the WCF.
But you need to dig deep and see how these teams got to where they were seeded.
Ie. 1982 ECF, 1984 WCF, & 1987 WCF
Ok. The West may have been weaker than the East. However, that doesn't change the fact that they won the majority of those Finals once they got there. That shows that the Lakers probably would have made most of the Finals if they were in the East since they beat the best the East have to offer.
It's different from, by comparison, what LeBron did with 8 straight Finals appearances coming out of the East, which barely had 2 or 3 real threats in the East dueing those 8 seasons. But then he went 3-5 in the Finals. That indicates that he probably wouldn't have made it to 8 straight Finals if he was in the West because he couldn't beat the best of the West for the majority of those Finals.
I could listen to this dude talk about sports all day. He can get a little whiny sometimes (though I suspect that’s more of a FTF gimmick to create good opposing viewpoints with Brou and Wildes) and you can disagree with what he says but he always brings justifiable reasons why he thinks a certain way on a topic. Miss him and CC too
Well said
Timestamps?
You should have done a yop 75 of the last 75 years without the parameter that if a player was on the top 50 of the last 50 he had to be on the top 75
We got the same name I’m reading the comments like I didn’t comment this 1h ago 💀💀💀
Had no clue, Nick had a good deal of NBA history knowledge
The sydeny moncrief take is 1000% true
Rodman is a 1st ballot HOF but he's not a top 50 player of the last 50 years, Rodman is in the same tier as guys like Cooper, Manu, Dumars etc. There's like 20 guy off the top of my head who aren't on this list that are clearly better/greater than Rodman.
The caller is nuts to say rodman was not a good passer! I know for a fact she didnt watch 80's and 90's basketball. Rodman was known for being a good passer, AND he was locking up legends. Unlike draymond who locks up nobodies...cant even remember the last time draymond locked a star up for a series.
i like the list so far but Reggie was more impactful for longer than Worthy.
The reason no one talk about Jordan losing in 85 his second season is the same way we don't talk about lebron not making playoffs in his second season...
Wat about 2011 Mavs series? Average 12 points.
@@TOE813 we do talk about 2011 and he didn't average 12 points
i like laid back Nick
Tiny -- I'd take him any day of the week over Chris Paul or Kyrie Irving. What about Clavin Murphy?
Teams that were led by these guys were all eliminated from the playoffs by teams w/ Dennis Rodman: Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Moses Malone, Dikembe Mutombo, Dominique Wilkins, Bernard King, Sidney Moncrief, Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, and Clyde Drexler.
I bet they're all Slovenian.
How many of y’all have watched the Dennis Rodman 30 for 30? And had a new respect for that man
Here before people are arguing in the comments months later
If you ain't watch the NBA in the 80s you just wouldn't understand. Good call on all of these Nick.
43 Dwight
Pau should make it
Every video on this channel needs its sound fixed , very muffled
Any other team James Worthy would have averaged 25 points career.
Not going to lie, I compared Melo career to D Wilkins thinking Melo had the better career, but in reality Dom was way more impressive than I thought. Statistically and accolade wise, Wilkins kind of has the edge and defense was neither ones strong suit. Because of the Celtics/Spurs/Magic stints, I assumed Wilkins career average was lower.
PS- You do seem a bit biased on the reasoning for playoffs though. Melo as a rookie lost to KG MVP level, Duncan 2x , lost to BOS big three 2x, Heat Big 3, Kobe 2x. Looking forward to seeing rest of list. Idk if I just missed it in last episode but hoping Draymond on this and wasnt a miss. If Rodman is on here, I think Draymond has to be, he impacted offense far more than Rodman and was the defensive engine for a team that made like 5 or 6 straight finals lol
I'd put Melo over rodman and tiny
Sidney moncrief beat bird and Michael in a series didn't know
Reggie Miller vs the Knicks rivalry doesn't even happen as fast or in the same way if Dominique Wilkins is not traded 1994 trade deadline.
D12 number 43
Rodman Over Melo And Bernard King ???????????????
6:10 this goes against all of Nicks arguments about Gobert lol. He prob doesnt even think hes top 20
People act like JJ Barrea didn’t lock up Lebron
Did this man really just say Ron Harper while trying to diss MJ's defense ?
In my opinion Dennis Rodman should have been finals mvp in 96
lol no, this is myth. Most of series Jordan is best. Rodman is great but cmmon stop lying
@@markozbunjol625 it’s not a myth because no one talks about it. Jordan shot 41% in the series. By far his worst finals. Rodman was the main reason they won 2 of the 4 games
 You do realize the guy Rodman was defending was Shawn Kemp and he had the best performance in that Finals.
So Rodman was only good for Rebounding that series.
Nick you're not going to get away with this. You give Dominique all the praise and deservingly so for hanging in there with a lesser team going up against Boston and Milwaukee, but you can't use that argument and at the same time say Jordan with a even lesser team than Dominique, going up against those same opponents in the mid eighties, you don't give Michael the same pass and I believe Jordan was younger, his team was worse than the Hawks, and he had a severe foot injury in 85, Nick stop it.
I’m gonna love this list until he has Jordan at 3
Ppl need to realize some teams 3rd best player is better than other teams best player, thats why the win haha
Correction Nick @ 14:00 Those are $150 Clase Azul Reposado bottles not the $2000 Ultra...Know your Liquor pal, next thing youl be saying is Lebron is better than Jordan...
Rodman made it over Dave Cowens, Wes Unseld and John Havlicek....wrong
Talking defense but didn't mention ben wallace wtf? 4 time dpoy!!!
Did he just say Tim Duncan is a better defensive player than Rodman 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.Rodman is 6'9 brah guarding Shaq.
i HATE this bout some NBA fans. they put TOO MUCH weight on Scoring. RODMAN & even DRAYMOND have had more effect on their teams Winning then some guys who averaged 25ppg. It's a shame that defense or the All Around game doesn't get more respect
The only reason Nick is making this list is so theirs a list out there that has Lebron over Jordan 🤦♂️
Lol the only reason!
Yo nick I'm family too wassup with a job my ninja
Dennis rodman is better than tmac?? Lmfao
Rodman is not Top 50 or 75. Great Athlete, Defender and Rebounder but was a Role Player not a Superstar.
Ugh Nick. Please tell me how history would be different if Dominique is on the Lakers and James Worthy is on the Hawks.
Draymond couldn't guard Shaq or Malone in his best dream. Rodman always held his own against the best big men.
Completely different rules. Rodman was allowed to grab people, rodman would get ejected every game playing the same way
@@Bickle121 Yeah, today's game is soft. You can't hardly breathe around anyone these days. Also, there was no zone back then either, so it was every man for themselves.
@@c.falcon5045 easier to defend
Let's stop with the other people talking. They don't add to the show
in Rodman's prime the Pistons were average and the Spurs choked in the playoffs partially because Rodman refused to guard the jump shooter(short 3-line in '95) selfishly trying to pad his rebounding stats... got traded for Will Perdue straight up... in NBA Finals with Bulls Rodman would randomly chuck up jumpers AFTER spending the season passing on open putbacks after an offensive rebound scared he would get blocked or he would just miss the layup... Rodman played 4789 playoff minutes, Horace Grant played 6172 playoff minutes... Dennis Rodman is clearly NOT a top 50 player of last 50 years in NBA... fax!!!
Lemme guess - the guy with the worst brand of ball ever will be #1.. The guy whose frontcourt ball-dominant skillset ties a coach's hands and forces them to employ a simpleton, low team assist brand where 1 guy hogs the team's assists.. It's a paper tiger that requires ridiculous supporting to win. The #1 guy never learned how to win (brand of ball, organic) and only learned how to team-hop (talent-based winning.. all-star team strategy).. Talent-based winners that have worst-ever brand of ball and therefore needs super-teams aren't top 10.. He also lacks the elite jumpshooting skill to defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load in Finals).. his big man ball-dominance needs sooooooo much scoring help.. he needs all-time elite scorers at sidekick and another elite scorer at 3rd option, or he needs AD the lead the scoring.. It's called talent-based winning.. woat brand of ball..
Hence why despite all the talent he has played with throughout his team hopping career, he's 4-6 in the Finals, one of which required a worldwide pandemic, lockdowns, and a bubble environment which nobody else wanted to be playing in.
i bet kawhi won’t be on his top 50
If he doesn’t, he should just delete this channel to be honest. I’m pretty sure he’ll be there tho
Wow why nobody ever talk about bulls losing to the bucks…media will let you believe it was only the great Celtics and bad boy pistons he couldn’t get pass 😂😂
As long as:
Dirk is in top 20
Dirk is ranked higher than KG and D- Wayne
O’Neil is higher than Kobe
I am cool with it.
Dirk top 30 35 imo
He wasn't better then Wade but was healthier
Wasn't better then KG
Shaq should be about Kobe
Nick talking about Jordan guarding the 4th best player like LeBron even defends these days lol. Always reaching
Lol so Rodman, Tiny Archibald are more deserving than T-MAC? Stop it Nick.
Worthy over Nique is blasphemous.. I'm sorry.. I'll take Allen over Nate only for the 3pts and chips.. also Allen had a better career post Jesus Shuttlesworth form
I think you r the smartest analyst but your r wrong
Man I watched up to the top 30 and I quit! This dude does nothing but take shots at Jordan while literally make 2nd place MVP finishes a thing! My dude nobody cares who came in 2nd place in an MVP conversation! Also it's hard to take anything he says to your bank when he defends LeBron at all cost! Guys like nick wright make sports opinions hard to value!
lol he is fraud and be exposed on youtube and he cannot speak without mention Jordan he mention greatest defenders who is not center and he mention Rodman, Pippen and Harper and he mentioned Jordan and critized just ridicouls because Jordan is better defender then Harper and Pippen. Rodman is better but Jordan is also top 10 defender.
Nick tore down Jordan's scoring production against Gary Payton to build up to the point of Dennis Rodman scoring 9 points in a series defining game
Ya I mean just ignore the 19 rebounds and everything else he said lol
Not ignoring it, just explain the correlation of Dennis Rodman's high rebounding game and it's effect in the matchup between Gary Payton defending Micheal Jordan effectively.
lol he is fraud and be exposed on youtube and he cannot speak without mention Jordan he mention greatest defenders who is not center and he mention Rodman, Pippen and Harper and he mentioned Jordan and critized just ridicouls because Jordan is better defender then Harper and Pippen. Rodman is better but Jordan is also top 10 defender.
@@crazytrain111 this is not point, point is that this fraud Nick Wrong always critize Jordan and creat narativ for his false claim
@@crazytrain111 and again bases the opinion on a hypothetical situation like James Worthy IF he is playing on another team MAYBE he finishes top 5 in mvp lol this is all hypothetical and Nick Wrong once again create "arghment" on hypothetical theory lol. Its like imagine Hakeem with Magic. Ok, i can imagine, Hakeem is to me GOAT because in hypothetical he will be if playing with Magic. I mean, this is all Nick Wrong, he is fraud.
Love nick wrigjt he make alot hyprocrital statement about jordan he be reaching