Am a mustang owner but yes competition is gooood!! I hope camaro sticks around so the mustang doesnt stay stale pike mid to late 2000’s and that stupid mofo live axle that kept me from buying obe.
Spiritcr1jsher bro anything can be made to “work” but its the principal of it, love axle dont belong on a sporty car. Love my 17gt for sure but i also like the caMaros
@@gigi9467 yeah, I get you. It more than worked when a boss 302 was putting 2 seconds on an M4 in 2011.... Like I said , the new chassis is much better to drive around . My 2005gt was almost a death trap on a curved bumpy road...lol
I daily drove a 2012 SS for over 4 years. The 6-speed manual version. I loved that car. The only reason I don't still have it is because I upgraded to a newer Camaro ZL1. The 5th Gen SS is a great car.
Just bought myself the 2013 SS 2. Amazingly fast and love the styling as well. yes, its not supersonic fast but its fast. When you have a car that everyone stops and stares at it, then you have a nice car. lol
I went from a 2009 Mustang GT with a few mods to my 2013 Camaro SS. I really did like the Mustang but man, I LOVE my Camaro. The performance and handling are light years beyond the Mustang. It's like night and day.
My baby!! I have a 2010 Camaro 2SS manual transmission 426 horse and 420 torque. I frikin love her!!!! Black on Black leather heated seats moonroof Brembo brakes and traction control with race mode. Double sways and just a beautiful ride!!
I'm 68 and I always liked fast cars. My first car was a 1969 302 Ford Fairlane. As I grew older I graduated from them and moved towards 4WD Trucks or SUV's. I have been without a car for a year since my 2004 Tahoe gave out. Since then I have rented many different cars but then the last time I rented Enterprise didn't have any economy cars. The guy says " I got a nice orange 2019 Charger I can let you have at the economy rate. I said I don't want a muscle car. He says it's the V6 and has 300 Hp. It was take the Charger or do without a car. The rental was for 1 day. I kept it for a week and just drove around with no place to go. The V6 was very quick and the driving brought back my times in my Fairlane. The interior was very spacious and the leather seats were super comfortable. Driving the V6 I could only imagine the power of the 5.7 Hemi or the SRT8. I started looking at Mustangs, Camaro's, Corvette's, Chargers and Challengers. Reading the comments on this thread only heightened my yearning for a muscle car. Another reason I'm looking for a muscle car is so I can give the double bird to the Federal Government. I will never buy a hybrid or an electric car. I don't like being told what I can do by this Commie government. It's strictly Gas for me. The more noise the car makes the better. I'm also looking for one of these cars from the 60's or early 70's but they are too expensive but I look anyway. No computer and no tracking devices. One thing I don't like on the newer muscle cars is the valve shutoff to save gas. Come on man give me all 8 blasters or nothing. I'll gladly pay for the gas. Besides there is a problem because the valves that are shut off are always the same so you have valves getting used more that the others and that's not good.
For some reason Camaros always underperform on Motorweek. It’s crazy. Watch the mustang camaro head-to-head videos on here. 0-60 and 1/4 times for the Chevy are usually around 0.5 sec slower than other magazines (Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Road & Track etc.). I’ve noticed Motorweek tends to post acceleration numbers on the more conservative side for all vehicles in general, but they take it to another level when testing Camaros. They also tend to favor the Ford on subjective matters. Example: Look at the Camaro SS vs Mustang Cobra test (It was somewhere between 98’ and 02’, cant remember exactly, but it’s on TH-cam). They had the Stang’ actually outrunning the Camaro to 60 and in the quarter! Every other magazine posted numbers with the Cobra being beaten not only by SS’s, but even by the regular Z/28’s (LS1 Z/28’s 0-60: 4.8-5.5 depending on source and year; average was ~5.0 flat • 1/4 in the low 13’s). The 99’-01’ Cobra usually posted 0-60 times of 5.2-5.9, with 1/4 mile times from 13.5-14.2 (average 13.9 seconds). IIRC The 99’-01’ Cobra had 305-320 horsepower, but its new high-tech DOHC 4v 4.6l V-8 sacrificed low end power/torque for top end gain. Physical engine size, weight, and complexity increases as well. The LS-1’s large pushrod 5.7L V-8 is well known for its stump pulling torque from basically idle. It also gets amazing gas mileage, is incredibly reliable, with a robust aftermarket making large power gains cheap and easy. The drivetrain is robust as well, capable of handling 600+ horsepower with no changes. There are many reasons the LS is likely the most swapped motor in history for a reason. In 99’, so many dynos showed exaggerated horsepower figures for the Cobra that owners sued Ford and there was a recall. (My friends mom who had ordered a black on black on black like a year in advance bought hers and took us to watch Star Wars in it right after she got it). The LS-1 Camaros tended to be underrated if anything at a claimed 305-335 horsepower and 320-345 lb/ft iirc; 30+ more ft/lb torque than the Mustang Cobra. Dynos often had them putting down anywhere from 5-35 more HP than factory claims (with performance figures confirming). Keep in mind that the Camaro Z/28 was meant to compete with the Mustang GT, not the special SVT Mustang Cobra (which was a direct competitor to the Camaro SS and Pontiac Trams Am WS6 Ram-Air. The Ford was destroyed there as well unfortunately). A few years back, I had a 99’ Corvette hardtop and a close buddy with a 99’ Cobra convertible. Both had exhausts and his had one or two more bolt-ons. Both 6-speed and both competent drivers (we switched back and forth anyway). Whether from a dig, roll from any speed, or top speed attempt, we both agreed that there was absolutely no comparison. The Corvette simply outmatched the heavier and weaker Mustang. Now if it were an 03’ Cobra, it would have been a different story. I love all American muscle, and don’t get involved in the Ford/Chevy/Mopar battle (at this point all Americans should work together in fighting for our nations economic sovereignty). I’ve never owned a Camaro nor Mustang, but have owned Fords and Chevys, both of which I loved and they all lasted well. I just don’t like folks being misinformed, so I try to correct it when possible. I know what it must look like. I’m not knocking the Mustang or praising the Camaro; they both have their strengths, weaknesses, and unique driving experience. To each their own
@@kosquo4328 so i dropped out in kindergarten yet i have a charger and a kl. Damn, i made it bigtime for my age. Didnt know kindergarten drop outs could afford 1k dollar phones or 2k dollar cameras
Maybe somebody paid them idk. I remember some old video of them testing the 4th gen Camaro against the SN95 Mustang, absolutely blew the tires on the launch and used it to make the numbers look about even between the cars.
@@markjmarkjack Yeah they have notoriously bad track results... I ran 13.1 @ 108mph in a bone stock 4th Gen Z28 manual... very poor showing here for the 5th gen.
@baureihe151 I had an '00 SLP Firehawk before my vette and I think the new camaro ss is much better looking than my old hawk. I hear almost everyone saying the new camaro styling is the absolute opposite of boring. It's a pretty wild looking machine if you ask me. I know you wrote this a year ago... Maybe it grew on you?
RIP . John Davis. When I saw this on MotorWeek, I decided to go out and buy a 2010 Camaro RS,SS6 speed manual transmission. I think I just turned 34,000 miles on it last month. Long live the internal combustion engine. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@markjmarkjack , I bought mine back in 2007, glad I still have it, 2 blocks away from me an older Asian woman has a 2001 SS and I said to her when you are looking to sell let me know.
Everytime I compare Chevy to Ford or Dodge or whatever... I'm always on the Camaro's side. I mean come on!!! you can't beat that MEAN look! Better drive, look, sound, better everything.
l had one of these rev at me in my 94 M6 Z28. We did two pulls from a roll. l started behind him at a light and when traffic cleared l jumped out to the next lane to get next to him but he opened it up. At the top of 2nd and on into 3rd l was reeling him in and got my bumper to middle of his door before he quit. The first run l was behind him in traffic and l heard his car, opened mine up and seemed to pull around 3rd. Thought it was a fluke until that other better run where l was about to pass him. ldk if he was short shifting or what because my car only went 13.8 with hypertech prog and hurst shifter, flowmaster muffler only oh and k&n filter..
Maybe because they don't want to increase the horsepower a lot? If they wanted to have more power they would build a bigger engine. They didn't have any competition. Now that the Camaro came out they will improve their engine to an all aluminum 5.0L. Chevy just stuffs a big engine into a big car and makes it fast. Ford can do that with a smaller engine.
good luck finding a SS at 32 grand. Dealers mark these to 40ish and people are buying. But this isn't a volume car so GM won't make big money to pay us taxpayers back. Still a sweet car though.
I bought the same model year in the Challenger SRT, and am really glad that I did because it is everything that a muscle car should be and more. Although the Dodge is heavy it clocks the same numbers as the SS, and handles excellent for its wt. What is amazing is that the SS has an all aluminum block and heads and is a larger displacement, but lacks behind the 6.1 Hemi. Another thing that I like about the Mopar is that you can take a nice road trip in comfort and style, but the SS is stiff cramped and uncomfortable. I just think that the Camaro looks like a plastic transformer toy, not a muscle car.
Too bad the manual doesn't have the cylinder deactivation feature like the automatic does. It helps save just a little gas when cruising on the freeway. Other than that, awesome car. I wish I had the money to buy one.
Hey..umm..2 different drivers get 2 different times, and some people drive better than others. If you want to talk power then do a rolling start from 50mph-140mph. If the 4.6 is so good why does it have about the same HP rating as a 1998-02 Z28/TA in the year 2009?
For some reason Camaros always underperform on Motorweek. It’s crazy. Watch the mustang camaro head-to-head videos on here. 0-60 and 1/4 times for the Chevy are usually around 0.5 sec slower than other magazines (Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Road & Track etc.). I’ve noticed Motorweek tends to post acceleration numbers on the more conservative side for all vehicles in general, but they take it to another level when testing Camaros. They also tend to favor the Ford on subjective matters. Example: Look at the Camaro SS vs Mustang Cobra test (It was somewhere between 98’ and 02’, cant remember exactly, but it’s on TH-cam). They had the Stang’ actually outrunning the Camaro to 60 and in the quarter! Every other magazine posted numbers with the Cobra being beaten not only by SS’s, but even by the regular Z/28’s (LS1 Z/28’s 0-60: 4.8-5.5 depending on source and year; average was ~5.0 flat • 1/4 in the low 13’s). The 99’-01’ Cobra usually posted 0-60 times of 5.2-5.9, with 1/4 mile times from 13.5-14.2 (average 13.9 seconds). IIRC The 99’-01’ Cobra had 305-320 horsepower, but its new high-tech DOHC 4v 4.6l V-8 sacrificed low end power/torque for top end gain. Physical engine size, weight, and complexity increases as well. The LS-1’s large pushrod 5.7L V-8 is well known for its stump pulling torque from basically idle. It also gets amazing gas mileage, is incredibly reliable, with a robust aftermarket making large power gains cheap and easy. The drivetrain is robust as well, capable of handling 600+ horsepower with no changes. There are many reasons the LS is likely the most swapped motor in history for a reason. In 99’, so many dynos showed exaggerated horsepower figures for the Cobra that owners sued Ford and there was a recall. (My friends mom who had ordered a black on black on black like a year in advance bought hers and took us to watch Star Wars in it right after she got it). The LS-1 Camaros tended to be underrated if anything at a claimed 305-335 horsepower and 320-345 lb/ft iirc; 30+ more ft/lb torque than the Mustang Cobra. Dynos often had them putting down anywhere from 5-35 more HP than factory claims (with performance figures confirming). Keep in mind that the Camaro Z/28 was meant to compete with the Mustang GT, not the special SVT Mustang Cobra (which was a direct competitor to the Camaro SS and Pontiac Trams Am WS6 Ram-Air. The Ford was destroyed there as well unfortunately). A few years back, I had a 99’ Corvette hardtop and a close buddy with a 99’ Cobra convertible. Both had exhausts and his had one or two more bolt-ons. Both 6-speed and both competent drivers (we switched back and forth anyway). Whether from a dig, roll from any speed, or top speed attempt, we both agreed that there was absolutely no comparison. The Corvette simply outmatched the heavier and weaker Mustang. Now if it were an 03’ Cobra, it would have been a different story. I love all American muscle, and don’t get involved in the Ford/Chevy/Mopar battle (at this point all Americans should work together in fighting for our nations economic sovereignty). I’ve never owned a Camaro nor Mustang, but have owned Fords and Chevys, both of which I loved and they all lasted well. I just don’t like folks being misinformed, so I try to correct it when possible. I know what it must look like. I’m not knocking the Mustang or praising the Camaro; they both have their strengths, weaknesses, and unique driving experience. To each their own.
that 0-60 time is sad... when the Camaro's and Trans-am's of 19 years ago was only half a second slower at 5.5. and only had 230 hp and waighed 4,000 pounds. cars now adays are getting to soft for my liking. Horsepower doesn mean anything these days... exept for braging rights.
+john cooper: 5.5-6 seconds 0-60 sounds about right for those early 90's Z28's. Yours must have been worn out because motor trend tested an 85 IROC-Z with a 305 TPI making 215hp/275lbs tq and ran 0-60 in 6.87. 1/4mi was 15.3@89.1 with an automatic.
Nope sorry. More like 6.5-7 secs for those cars. 1985 iroc was 7.3 0-60. You need to realize that 2 secs faster 0-60 is HUGE. Look at the 1/4 mile time and speed. A 1992 z28 5.7 was 14.9 compared to a 12.9-13.3 for this 2010. That much difference is several car lengths. If you ever raced or knew much about cars you would realize how much of a drastic difference this is. And I owned a 1987 GTA 5.7 that had 30k miles when I sold it so no it was far from worn out. It wasn't until the 98-99 Camaro SS came out that the Camaro dipped into the 5.8 sec 0-60 range. Those late 80 early 90 cars were not even close to 5 anything lol. they were in the mid 7 sec range back then.
Man your comment didn't age well. I miss those days. Gas $4.50+ now. Camaro getting discontinued 2023, probably will be back as a crappy electric platform. Talk of state banning gas car sales. Hybrids and electric cars being forced down our throats. Sad time we live in. I wanna go back.
Old comment but The STI is more expensive base price than the SS, its designed to run on premium gasoline stock, not regular gasoline like the camaro, the STI is about 500lbs lighter in most cases with a sharper steering ratio which makes it better than the camaro at tighter low speed turns obviously, but the durability of the STI when abused is trash compared to the camaro, both are good cars but this whole "i like this car so im gonna lie about it being way better because i own it" thing is stupid and misleading.
Correct me if I'm wrong doesn't the new camaro have the same performance stats as the one from 2002 and the new one has a little over 110hp on the old one I think it needs a diet.
Are you kidding me? people stopped buying their cars because of how poor they were made, and how they needed to repair them. If gm wasn't so deep into the rental car game, they woulda been done for sure. I still won't buy a gm EVER!
I miss the Trans Am and Camaro SS from 1993 to 2002.......this new Camaro is so booring in styling!! :-( And the base Camaro 2010 has only 3,6L with 300 HP..............come on, I want to see CUBIC!! I love the 5,7L V8 with 305 HP!! Back to the roots!!
InsideLineVideo got 5.1 on the Mustang so why you telling me to be real? Motortrend gets BS times. Every video they do is different times. Even if it got 4.8 that is slow for a fucking 6.2L engine. Ford is beasting with their 4.6L. Their 5.0 will be pushing 400+HP just goes to show you who makes the better engines. 85 HP increase from .4 litters? Imagine how much power they would get from a 6.2L like Chevy.
in 2010 i would take the comero ovr the mustang. but the 2011 modle is better then comero. i generaly dont like how gm is useing a 16valv engin ovr the 32 ford. 4cylinders use 16v not big v8s.
the 2010 camaro ss, the reason why ford brought the 5.0 back and dodge started putting 392s in their cars again.. never forget that lol
A year late but Ford was working on that 5.0 since 2004.
Am a mustang owner but yes competition is gooood!! I hope camaro sticks around so the mustang doesnt stay stale pike mid to late 2000’s and that stupid mofo live axle that kept me from buying obe.
@@gigi9467 I had a live axle 2011 and it kept up with the best of them. My 2015 is a much better car overall.
Spiritcr1jsher bro anything can be made to “work” but its the principal of it, love axle dont belong on a sporty car. Love my 17gt for sure but i also like the caMaros
@@gigi9467 yeah, I get you. It more than worked when a boss 302 was putting 2 seconds on an M4 in 2011.... Like I said , the new chassis is much better to drive around . My 2005gt was almost a death trap on a curved bumpy road...lol
I daily drove a 2012 SS for over 4 years. The 6-speed manual version. I loved that car. The only reason I don't still have it is because I upgraded to a newer Camaro ZL1. The 5th Gen SS is a great car.
Im enjoying my ls3 5th gen
5th gen will go down as the best generation
@@lucyloo2228 It's my favorite. Especially the 2010-2013 taillights.
@@Shane-Singleton Wanted a 5th gen SS for many years, finally got a 2SS/RS the year and couldn't be happier with it.
I freaking love my 2010 all black, muffler deletes, tune, 63K miles M6. Live it!
I remember when this teased in Transformers I thoguht chevy made a an exotic car.
I think they had the traction control on during the 0-60 run. The wheels were losing grip and stopping.
Just bought myself the 2013 SS 2. Amazingly fast and love the styling as well. yes, its not supersonic fast but its fast.
When you have a car that everyone stops and stares at it, then you have a nice car. lol
oh yes..very good cars to drive these..i'm on my second one after owning a pos s550 for a while
2SS
I went from a 2009 Mustang GT with a few mods to my 2013 Camaro SS. I really did like the Mustang but man, I LOVE my Camaro. The performance and handling are light years beyond the Mustang. It's like night and day.
Got a 2011, 2SS/RS. It has 12500 miles on it now. Great car
My baby!! I have a 2010 Camaro 2SS manual transmission 426 horse and 420 torque. I frikin love her!!!! Black on Black leather heated seats moonroof Brembo brakes and traction control with race mode. Double sways and just a beautiful ride!!
I love my 2010 Camaro! It puts a smile on my face literally every time I get into it.
I'm 68 and I always liked fast cars. My first car was a 1969 302 Ford Fairlane. As I grew older I graduated from them and moved towards 4WD Trucks or SUV's. I have been without a car for a year since my 2004 Tahoe gave out. Since then I have rented many different cars but then the last time I rented Enterprise didn't have any economy cars. The guy says " I got a nice orange 2019 Charger I can let you have at the economy rate. I said I don't want a muscle car. He says it's the V6 and has 300 Hp. It was take the Charger or do without a car. The rental was for 1 day. I kept it for a week and just drove around with no place to go. The V6 was very quick and the driving brought back my times in my Fairlane. The interior was very spacious and the leather seats were super comfortable. Driving the V6 I could only imagine the power of the 5.7 Hemi or the SRT8.
I started looking at Mustangs, Camaro's, Corvette's, Chargers and Challengers. Reading the comments on this thread only heightened my yearning for a muscle car.
Another reason I'm looking for a muscle car is so I can give the double bird to the Federal Government. I will never buy a hybrid or an electric car. I don't like being told what I can do by this Commie government. It's strictly Gas for me. The more noise the car makes the better. I'm also looking for one of these cars from the 60's or early 70's but they are too expensive but I look anyway. No computer and no tracking devices.
One thing I don't like on the newer muscle cars is the valve shutoff to save gas. Come on man give me all 8 blasters or nothing. I'll gladly pay for the gas. Besides there is a problem because the valves that are shut off are always the same so you have valves getting used more that the others and that's not good.
For some reason Camaros always underperform on Motorweek. It’s crazy. Watch the mustang camaro head-to-head videos on here. 0-60 and 1/4 times for the Chevy are usually around 0.5 sec slower than other magazines (Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Road & Track etc.).
I’ve noticed Motorweek tends to post acceleration numbers on the more conservative side for all vehicles in general, but they take it to another level when testing Camaros. They also tend to favor the Ford on subjective matters.
Example: Look at the Camaro SS vs Mustang Cobra test (It was somewhere between 98’ and 02’, cant remember exactly, but it’s on TH-cam). They had the Stang’ actually outrunning the Camaro to 60 and in the quarter! Every other magazine posted numbers with the Cobra being beaten not only by SS’s, but even by the regular Z/28’s (LS1 Z/28’s 0-60: 4.8-5.5 depending on source and year; average was ~5.0 flat • 1/4 in the low 13’s). The 99’-01’ Cobra usually posted 0-60 times of 5.2-5.9, with 1/4 mile times from 13.5-14.2 (average 13.9 seconds). IIRC
The 99’-01’ Cobra had 305-320 horsepower, but its new high-tech DOHC 4v 4.6l V-8 sacrificed low end power/torque for top end gain. Physical engine size, weight, and complexity increases as well. The LS-1’s large pushrod 5.7L V-8 is well known for its stump pulling torque from basically idle. It also gets amazing gas mileage, is incredibly reliable, with a robust aftermarket making large power gains cheap and easy. The drivetrain is robust as well, capable of handling 600+ horsepower with no changes. There are many reasons the LS is likely the most swapped motor in history for a reason.
In 99’, so many dynos showed exaggerated horsepower figures for the Cobra that owners sued Ford and there was a recall. (My friends mom who had ordered a black on black on black like a year in advance bought hers and took us to watch Star Wars in it right after she got it).
The LS-1 Camaros tended to be underrated if anything at a claimed 305-335 horsepower and 320-345 lb/ft iirc; 30+ more ft/lb torque than the Mustang Cobra. Dynos often had them putting down anywhere from 5-35 more HP than factory claims (with performance figures confirming).
Keep in mind that the Camaro Z/28 was meant to compete with the Mustang GT, not the special SVT Mustang Cobra (which was a direct competitor to the Camaro SS and Pontiac Trams Am WS6 Ram-Air. The Ford was destroyed there as well unfortunately).
A few years back, I had a 99’ Corvette hardtop and a close buddy with a 99’ Cobra convertible. Both had exhausts and his had one or two more bolt-ons. Both 6-speed and both competent drivers (we switched back and forth anyway). Whether from a dig, roll from any speed, or top speed attempt, we both agreed that there was absolutely no comparison. The Corvette simply outmatched the heavier and weaker Mustang. Now if it were an 03’ Cobra, it would have been a different story.
I love all American muscle, and don’t get involved in the Ford/Chevy/Mopar battle (at this point all Americans should work together in fighting for our nations economic sovereignty). I’ve never owned a Camaro nor Mustang, but have owned Fords and Chevys, both of which I loved and they all lasted well.
I just don’t like folks being misinformed, so I try to correct it when possible. I know what it must look like. I’m not knocking the Mustang or praising the Camaro; they both have their strengths, weaknesses, and unique driving experience. To each their own
Did anyone actually read this novel?
@@kosquo4328 so i dropped out in kindergarten yet i have a charger and a kl. Damn, i made it bigtime for my age. Didnt know kindergarten drop outs could afford 1k dollar phones or 2k dollar cameras
@@jeepjoseph9036 yep well written
Maybe somebody paid them idk. I remember some old video of them testing the 4th gen Camaro against the SN95 Mustang, absolutely blew the tires on the launch and used it to make the numbers look about even between the cars.
@@markjmarkjack Yeah they have notoriously bad track results... I ran 13.1 @ 108mph in a bone stock 4th Gen Z28 manual... very poor showing here for the 5th gen.
havent seen a Camaro i havent liked yet , nice car
the 2010-present Chevrolet Camaro is assembled in
Oshawa, Ontario, Canada
good
They made one hell of a car
Miss my 2010 SS. It was a great car.
@baureihe151
I had an '00 SLP Firehawk before my vette and I think the new camaro ss is much better looking than my old hawk.
I hear almost everyone saying the new camaro styling is the absolute opposite of boring. It's a pretty wild looking machine if you ask me. I know you wrote this a year ago... Maybe it grew on you?
These are the slowest track times I've seen out of all the tester's i.e. MotorTrend, Road and Track etc. etc.
RIP . John Davis. When I saw this on MotorWeek, I decided to go out and buy a 2010 Camaro RS,SS6 speed manual transmission. I think I just turned 34,000 miles on it last month. Long live the internal combustion engine. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
He still alive
I own one I love it
I have a 2013 SS US-Model and why the Tachometer goes only to 180 km/h???
My 2002 Z28 ran 13.12 @107mph 1/4 mile .... I paid $7000 for it ..
How'd you find it at that price? I see '02 Z/28s going for close to what my 2015 SS costs.
@@markjmarkjack , I bought mine back in 2007, glad I still have it, 2 blocks away from me an older Asian woman has a 2001 SS and I said to her when you are looking to sell let me know.
Everytime I compare Chevy to Ford or Dodge or whatever... I'm always on the Camaro's side. I mean come on!!! you can't beat that MEAN look! Better drive, look, sound, better everything.
Why you have a Mustang 9 years later
@@urieltrejo9379 things change man, it might have been what was better fo him
l had one of these rev at me in my 94 M6 Z28. We did two pulls from a roll. l started behind him at a light and when traffic cleared l jumped out to the next lane to get next to him but he opened it up. At the top of 2nd and on into 3rd l was reeling him in and got my bumper to middle of his door before he quit. The first run l was behind him in traffic and l heard his car, opened mine up and seemed to pull around 3rd. Thought it was a fluke until that other better run where l was about to pass him. ldk if he was short shifting or what because my car only went 13.8 with hypertech prog and hurst shifter, flowmaster muffler only oh and k&n filter..
It was probably a V6.
Your gen 2 lt1 isn't pulling a 5th generation SS
Maybe because they don't want to increase the horsepower a lot? If they wanted to have more power they would build a bigger engine. They didn't have any competition. Now that the Camaro came out they will improve their engine to an all aluminum 5.0L. Chevy just stuffs a big engine into a big car and makes it fast. Ford can do that with a smaller engine.
I want this car. What a beauty. I would want to paint the faux wood trim.
The same mileage and well over twice the power of those from 35 years ago, from a much heavier and better equipped car.
good luck finding a SS at 32 grand. Dealers mark these to 40ish and people are buying. But this isn't a volume car so GM won't make big money to pay us taxpayers back. Still a sweet car though.
igotwhips You can now lol
They did pay all of it back though
I love Muscle cars
I bought the same model year in the Challenger SRT, and am really glad that I did because it is everything that a muscle car should be and more. Although the Dodge is heavy it clocks the same numbers as the SS, and handles excellent for its wt. What is amazing is that the SS has an all aluminum block and heads and is a larger displacement, but lacks behind the 6.1 Hemi. Another thing that I like about the Mopar is that you can take a nice road trip in comfort and style, but the SS is stiff cramped and uncomfortable. I just think that the Camaro looks like a plastic transformer toy, not a muscle car.
Too bad the manual doesn't have the cylinder deactivation feature like the automatic does. It helps save just a little gas when cruising on the freeway. Other than that, awesome car. I wish I had the money to buy one.
Hey..umm..2 different drivers get 2 different times, and some people drive better than others. If you want to talk power then do a rolling start from 50mph-140mph. If the 4.6 is so good why does it have about the same HP rating as a 1998-02 Z28/TA in the year 2009?
For some reason Camaros always underperform on Motorweek. It’s crazy. Watch the mustang camaro head-to-head videos on here. 0-60 and 1/4 times for the Chevy are usually around 0.5 sec slower than other magazines (Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Road & Track etc.).
I’ve noticed Motorweek tends to post acceleration numbers on the more conservative side for all vehicles in general, but they take it to another level when testing Camaros. They also tend to favor the Ford on subjective matters.
Example: Look at the Camaro SS vs Mustang Cobra test (It was somewhere between 98’ and 02’, cant remember exactly, but it’s on TH-cam). They had the Stang’ actually outrunning the Camaro to 60 and in the quarter! Every other magazine posted numbers with the Cobra being beaten not only by SS’s, but even by the regular Z/28’s (LS1 Z/28’s 0-60: 4.8-5.5 depending on source and year; average was ~5.0 flat • 1/4 in the low 13’s). The 99’-01’ Cobra usually posted 0-60 times of 5.2-5.9, with 1/4 mile times from 13.5-14.2 (average 13.9 seconds). IIRC
The 99’-01’ Cobra had 305-320 horsepower, but its new high-tech DOHC 4v 4.6l V-8 sacrificed low end power/torque for top end gain. Physical engine size, weight, and complexity increases as well. The LS-1’s large pushrod 5.7L V-8 is well known for its stump pulling torque from basically idle. It also gets amazing gas mileage, is incredibly reliable, with a robust aftermarket making large power gains cheap and easy. The drivetrain is robust as well, capable of handling 600+ horsepower with no changes. There are many reasons the LS is likely the most swapped motor in history for a reason.
In 99’, so many dynos showed exaggerated horsepower figures for the Cobra that owners sued Ford and there was a recall. (My friends mom who had ordered a black on black on black like a year in advance bought hers and took us to watch Star Wars in it right after she got it).
The LS-1 Camaros tended to be underrated if anything at a claimed 305-335 horsepower and 320-345 lb/ft iirc; 30+ more ft/lb torque than the Mustang Cobra. Dynos often had them putting down anywhere from 5-35 more HP than factory claims (with performance figures confirming).
Keep in mind that the Camaro Z/28 was meant to compete with the Mustang GT, not the special SVT Mustang Cobra (which was a direct competitor to the Camaro SS and Pontiac Trams Am WS6 Ram-Air. The Ford was destroyed there as well unfortunately).
A few years back, I had a 99’ Corvette hardtop and a close buddy with a 99’ Cobra convertible. Both had exhausts and his had one or two more bolt-ons. Both 6-speed and both competent drivers (we switched back and forth anyway). Whether from a dig, roll from any speed, or top speed attempt, we both agreed that there was absolutely no comparison. The Corvette simply outmatched the heavier and weaker Mustang. Now if it were an 03’ Cobra, it would have been a different story.
I love all American muscle, and don’t get involved in the Ford/Chevy/Mopar battle (at this point all Americans should work together in fighting for our nations economic sovereignty). I’ve never owned a Camaro nor Mustang, but have owned Fords and Chevys, both of which I loved and they all lasted well.
I just don’t like folks being misinformed, so I try to correct it when possible. I know what it must look like. I’m not knocking the Mustang or praising the Camaro; they both have their strengths, weaknesses, and unique driving experience. To each their own.
Lol Most of the guess commenting on the car's specs had no idea what they were talking about
that 0-60 time is sad... when the Camaro's and Trans-am's of 19 years ago was only half a second slower at 5.5. and only had 230 hp and waighed 4,000 pounds. cars now adays are getting to soft for my liking. Horsepower doesn mean anything these days... exept for braging rights.
Youre crazy if you thought a 1992 f body was that fast. They were a full 2 plus secs slower to 60 then the new Camaro. ive owned them.
+john cooper: 5.5-6 seconds 0-60 sounds about right for those early 90's Z28's. Yours must have been worn out because motor trend tested an 85 IROC-Z with a 305 TPI making 215hp/275lbs tq and ran 0-60 in 6.87. 1/4mi was 15.3@89.1 with an automatic.
Nope sorry. More like 6.5-7 secs for those cars. 1985 iroc was 7.3 0-60. You need to realize that 2 secs faster 0-60 is HUGE. Look at the 1/4 mile time and speed. A 1992 z28 5.7 was 14.9 compared to a 12.9-13.3 for this 2010. That much difference is several car lengths. If you ever raced or knew much about cars you would realize how much of a drastic difference this is. And I owned a 1987 GTA 5.7 that had 30k miles when I sold it so no it was far from worn out. It wasn't until the 98-99 Camaro SS came out that the Camaro dipped into the 5.8 sec 0-60 range. Those late 80 early 90 cars were not even close to 5 anything lol. they were in the mid 7 sec range back then.
This was a concept car back in 2006
good point its sooo true...anyone who buys a gm after they took OUR money to stay alive due to their shitty car they chose to make, is an idoit!!
5.0L DOHC 32v all aluminum v8 producing 412hp and 390lb.fl
Exactly it's weak😝
tiger1945 You just responded to someone from 9 years ago...Moron
tiger1945 that makes the ls3 look like garbage. It’s more than a liter bigger and makes about the same power. Poor Chevy.
shite motor with no low down power..sound shite aswell
@@isaachunt5799 2011 5.0s dusted the SS. Keep hating
Gas a $1.20 these cars gonna make a comeback
Man your comment didn't age well. I miss those days. Gas $4.50+ now. Camaro getting discontinued 2023, probably will be back as a crappy electric platform. Talk of state banning gas car sales. Hybrids and electric cars being forced down our throats. Sad time we live in. I wanna go back.
These cars are rated in “smiles per gallon” folks… not miles per gallon 😜😜🤣🤣
Nice package; my 2008 STI beats it's 0-60 and 1/4 mi times, of course the slalom and braking too.
But by 80k miles the sti engine has been apart at least once and a the clutches
Old comment but The STI is more expensive base price than the SS, its designed to run on premium gasoline stock, not regular gasoline like the camaro, the STI is about 500lbs lighter in most cases with a sharper steering ratio which makes it better than the camaro at tighter low speed turns obviously, but the durability of the STI when abused is trash compared to the camaro, both are good cars but this whole "i like this car so im gonna lie about it being way better because i own it" thing is stupid and misleading.
Correct me if I'm wrong doesn't the new camaro have the same performance stats as the one from 2002 and the new one has a little over 110hp on the old one I think it needs a diet.
Yup youre wrong. The 2010 is faster than the 2002. The 2002 Camaro SS was 325hp so no the new one is not over 110hp more either.
the 2002 z28 does 0-60 in 5.2 seconds
just a bagel I have a '98. They are in no way even remotely faster. You'll get smoked by a v6 RS 2010+ Camaro. I'll attest to this.
My 99 z28 ran 13.15 108 with 278 gear and auto w 189.000 miles
@@billfarrell5544 not in stock form it did😝
can you upload the '03-'09 Camaro review?
they weren’t made then
Are you kidding me? people stopped buying their cars because of how poor they were made, and how they needed to repair them. If gm wasn't so deep into the rental car game, they woulda been done for sure. I still won't buy a gm EVER!
they say where did you find that. I said...I have these instincts.
Camaro 6.2L V8 - 0-60 5.0 Seconds
Mustang 4.6L V8 - 0-60 5.1 Seconds
What happened here?
And once again you tool your numbers are off kind of like you are 😝
Ya it’s Camaro 6.2L V8 0-60 in 4.7 seconds. Not 5.0 seconds.
y’all do know this comment was made 10 years ago
but those s197 pos things use 1960's suspension lol..dangerous junk cars
@@lancsroddl3131 you do know you responded to a 12 year old comment
That interior though?
Chevy has always had sub-par interiors. Personally, I can't stand the 5th generation Camaro interiors!
ha i was 5 back when this car came out
Soooo this is basically a holden commodore then? Lol
Well, they're built on the same platform I believe, but let's just say they're sisters lmao. Albeit one is American
No that'd be the Chevy SS sedan, quite literally in fact.
That car has the biggest engine i ever seen that has to be the fastest car in the whole world
hahahaha lmao
I miss the Trans Am and Camaro SS from 1993 to 2002.......this new Camaro is so booring in styling!! :-(
And the base Camaro 2010 has only 3,6L with 300 HP..............come on, I want to see CUBIC!! I love the 5,7L V8 with 305 HP!! Back to the roots!!
InsideLineVideo got 5.1 on the Mustang so why you telling me to be real? Motortrend gets BS times. Every video they do is different times. Even if it got 4.8 that is slow for a fucking 6.2L engine. Ford is beasting with their 4.6L. Their 5.0 will be pushing 400+HP just goes to show you who makes the better engines. 85 HP increase from .4 litters? Imagine how much power they would get from a 6.2L like Chevy.
Yeah chevy makes the better engine you tool
in 2010 i would take the comero ovr the mustang.
but the 2011 modle is better then comero.
i generaly dont like how gm is useing a 16valv engin ovr the 32 ford.
4cylinders use 16v
not big v8s.
93Adamv23 it has always been that way that's why they are cheaper and better to build.
not DI
The 6th generation from 2016 and newer were faster and lighter
6th aren't muscle cars
@@HONDACR919USA313
Yes it is. Still uses a push rod engine and V8.
@@stevemt3422 no 6th gen are built for European sport car fanatics who smell their own farts
... tan x'D ,
L99 got gyped
idk its not appealing to me.
Cc
This car is ugly. It looks like Chevy took a 4-door sedan like a new Impala design and said hey, let’s put 2 doors on this and call it a Camaro.
You need to get a vision test.
@@forgednotcast612 it is ugly and has aged terribly. The 05-09 Mustang looks way better.
this car is junk!!
So are you you troll 😝
This car sucks...
The 6th gen Camaro does not.