just wanted to throw this out since Minecraft was mentioned as a game that needs windows: its totally fine on the Deck, and Linux in general. bedrock version is not playable yes, but java is fully accessible and runs great with something like Prism Launcher.
@@tray84 excellent point! i kinda forgot because the distro im using dosent have the right drivers and such for waydroid (i could probably get it working but dont want to put in the time lol)
@@donotdew the unofficial bedrock launcher is on the Linux app stores (like discover or snap) and it is the Android version so you can't have raytracing even with nvidia
I did this recently with my Beelink SER6 Pro with a 680M that I had lying around. It's great and I can play most games at 1080p 30fps. Completed Lies of P on it. Very playable!
I'm picking up an SER6 as well, since they're currently discounted (for black friday i assume). I plan on adding another drive and loading some steamos fork on it. likely bazzite right now.
Ever since becoming a tinkerer I must say it’s very satisfying. Sure I could just run it all on my main rig but I do really find it fun to get these marvelous games running on lower spec hardware (handhelds etc). We’ve come a loooooong way and I really love what amd has been up to lately. Thanks techie ❤
It's just insane to me how affordable Steam Decks are. They have a touch-screen, battery, controllers... and they're still cheaper than your mid-range minipc selection. A refurbished Steam Deck at $279 is just an insane value. I really wish we could get the Steam Console that's the same thing as a Steam Deck 64... but without the touch-screen, battery, or controllers... and then hopefully a reduced price. That would be bonkers.
@@gmitchell_tc It's stupid, but it's what most consoles have done for a long time now. The main difference is that Steam games don't cost twice the cost of "PC games" :D I wonder how true it is for the Steam Deck, though. Can Valve really recoup the costs through game sales? Especially given that most people probably already have those games on their account anyway, since they run on a normal PC too? :D
@@LuaanTi From all the interviews they've given it seems more like Valve just wanted an affordable, comfortable and versatile PC handheld to exist, because they themselves wanted to play their games on one. Valve is special in that they don't have shareholders and they can do whatever they want even if it's not profitable It also seems to be a long-term strategy of making Linux gaming viable since Valve has been worried about Microsoft potentially locking down Windows
Actually I just had a nice 3 days off in a row because I had friends from Japan stop in on their Canada visit. Felt like it recharged my batteries nicely!
0:53 Minecraft java is fully compatible with the steam deck. And in fact, it runs way better because of its linux kernel. Minecraft bedrock can be enjoyed using an unofficial launcher(using google play store version). Yes, Minecraft is not available through steam. But can be downloaded and installed whilst in desktop mode. And added as a non steam game. I understand if you’re bored of the single player vanilla gameplay. But there are so many mods for Minecraft, notable ones being: Create, Valkrian skyes, realistic physics mod, terralift, shaders. And not to mention multiplayer. Minecraft is not a kids game. It’s a game for people that have creativity. That mostly happens to be children. But there are plenty of older people that still have that.
Wow. I happened to put this video on in the background *while* I was swapping rom around on mini pcs to try and figure out why I can't get this crucial ram to work in another system. Same processor, but the minisforum um790. Incredible luck. I guess I need to order more ram! This same set of sticks was unstable in a Beelink Ser6 Max, but not failing any testing I could find.
Happy to see you try this out. Been a full time Bazzite user since late April, early May. Bazzite is one of the few OS that I can both just play all my games on Linux and have a decent desktop experience. Have it on my large tower of a desktop. Also, love watching the videos. I was anxious an hour ago. Something I heard set me off. Video helped me calm down. Feel like I am hanging out in your room watching your videos which is nice. Hope you have a nice day.
same! been using for the same amount of time and put on my deck, main pc, and made a custom console with a pc using old parts in my living room. I don't even use my main pc because of the other two anymore
@@tray84 How is Bazzite on a Steam Deck? I personally never used or ever touched a Steam Deck until yesterday ironically. My brother's buddy wanted to share some game keys he got from a humble bundle which was nice and I only could give a chromecast to them. Anywho, he had a Steam Deck and wanted me to use it cause my brother told him about how I was fully into the Linux's Gamescope Sessions that is the Steam Deck from Chimera OS I tested last year. Sorry for the long ramble. Just wanna know how Bazzite is on the deck. Not that I wanna switch from using a larger desktop. I am just interested what the difference would be from Steam OS.
@@grizzlyindustries7593I have it installed on my deck. From a functionality standpoint it appears to be identical with some added benefits. I haven't noticed anything missing yet. The big differences are all in the background. Steamos is a custom immutable version of arch, while bazzite is based on an immutable branch of fedora, though the way it's set up bazzite technically takes the win here since with the stock steamos, if you unlock the root file system and make changes or install anything in that manner, it'll just get wiped the next time steamos updates, bazzite has a way to maintain immutability while also not wiping things that you install. Bazzite also gives you the option to quickly install a bunch of the things people tend to run on stock steamos, right on first boot. I didn't like it's stability a year ago and reverted back to steamos at the time, but I reinstalled it on my deck a couple weeks ago and have been liking it a lot.
Thanks for the tutorial. It gave me the push I needed to set up my own. Loads of mini PCs available, with specs that surpass that of the steam deck. For quite a bit less. Now I've basically got a clone of my steam deck, that's permanently set up where I'd previously have to dock my steam deck. I've got both the steam deck and mini pc set up to clover dual boot; windows, steam os/bazzite (sharing 1tb each of a 2tb ssd), and batocera (swapping a loaded out 2tb micro sd, between the two computers). If you're not too concerned about high fps and maxed out settings, on a huge screen. It's a cost effective solution to get the steam deck experience, where you'd usually play console or pc.
Do you have any examples of mini pcs that are less expensive than but have better performance than the steam deck??? I got a Steam Deck but returned it for a PS5 because I wanted to catch up on all of the AAA Sony exclusives from the last couple years. Would love to have a Steam machine to hookup to the tv for indie titles, but couldn't justify the cost of the SD OLED
@gdenn7766 any mini pc with =\>16gb ram, and an apu equivalent to a 4450U. Will match the steam decks performance, as a steam machine using bazzite. If you search for a mini pc with those specs, you'll find a few examples quite a bit cheaper than the steam deck. Which would be more than sufficient for a retro setup on a TV. But if it was me, I would step the specs up a bit. For example, a mini pc with a 7840u (such as the tiny minisforum em780) may cost a bit more than a standard steam deck. But will out perform it, as a bazzite steam machine. You could compromise a little, to get the cost down. But still out perform the steam deck. searching for a mini pc with a 7840HS (the gmktec k6, for example. Costs quite a bit less than a steam deck). Obviously. A super cheap sff pc, with dedicated amd gpu (as old/low as an rx 550), would outperform the steam deck, on bazzite. But looses the extremely small form factor of a mini pc. I'm guessing that you're after a tiny form factor. Or I'd be suggesting a cheap, older gen itx build. Or splashing out on a decent processor board such as the minisforum bd790i, to put in a cheap tiny itx case (as this would allow future upgrade with any amd gpu of your choosing, to become a very capable pc/bazzite steam machine. If you ever so wished). Since making this comment. I have actually come to another solution, that suited my requirements better. Wanting a more seamless transition between handheld and lounge TV gaming. I've made my steam deck dock, similar to a Nintendo switch. With gpu acceleration while docked. So I don't have to have multiple devices set up. The way I did it is quite convoluted, as I wanted to keep the usb port at the top of the deck free. So had to mess around with a m.2 to pcie adapter, into a pcie to dual m.2 adaptor. So that storage can go in one m.2 slot, and an m.2 to oculink port in the other. Which docks into a tiny case, housing a gpu (an rx 6600 I had available) and power supply. But a cheaper and easier option. Would be to simply replace the steam deck storage with a m.2 to oculink port (this requires cutting a small notch in the backplate of the Steam Deck, on the most central air intake vent, to allow the oculink port to be accessible). And use a USB m.2 dongle, with power passthrough, for your storage (such as the qwiizlab). Which sticks to the back of the deck with a magnet, while still allowing charging. Then you can use the steam deck as a normal handheld. Then plug it into any amd gpu and power supply setup, via oculink. Boot into windows steam big picture mode (steam os doesn't current support an external gpu). And play gpu accelerated gaming on a TV. Using clover to boot between the windows and steam os partitions on my 2tb m.2, simply worked, when switching it to the USB dongle (without any reinstall or boot partition shenanigans). And left the sd slot free to keep my batocera setup untouched (which works great docked also). Etaprime have a good video on setting this up. The only difference is using the m.2 to usb for storage, so I could just switch over my existing m.2 drive, and keep my sd free for batocera. It was a fun, and relatively cheap bit of tinkering. That has resulted in a very convenient setup, to have decent handheld and console like gaming, on a single device.
@swordofomens5202 bro. This is incredible. Thanks so much for the write up. Most of it is total gibberish to me, but I love the ideas! I don’t really care too much about form factor and size, I’ll have the device plugged into my tv so I wouldn’t even mind a tower sitting on the floor next to the tv console. But I just don’t have the time, energy, or knowledge to research and source parts, so buying a prebuilt mini pc seemed like the cheapest, easiest solution. If the rumored Steam Console releases with a price/power ratio better than the PS5 slim at $380, I’ll buy it in a heartbeat and sell the PS5. So I’m kind of just looking for something to keep me in the Steam ecosystem until then. The only things I wanted the PS5 for was to play Spider-Man, Helldivers, and Horizon in high quality. I put over 50 hours into Helldivers 2 on the Steam Deck, at the lowest quality, in 30fps before I just couldn’t take it anymore. But man I loved the Deck for older stuff and Steam-only games. Do you think the old itx build you mentioned could be done off Amazon and for cheaper than the OLED Steam Deck at $550? I’d be willing to get a few major parts off eBay if I knew exactly what part to look for and how much to pay for a “good deal”
Because of your videos on Brazzite, I am seriously considering doing this to create myself a console for my TV. For handheld gaming I have my Switch and for the few heavy titles I run I have my (work, ahem) pc. This is awesome!
Steam deck-type specs on a mini PC with more WALL power pumped into the APU/GPU is underrated. Consoles might not make sense anymore at u their price point. I was hoping this wouldn’t catch on while i hoarded all the mini PC units :3 Cat’s out the bag now! Im playing tekken 8 60fps for far less than a ps5. What a time to be alive
I flashed an old Toshiba Satellite laptop with Linux Mint 22 with Cinnamon, and it was able to handle PSX, and PSP so far from testing, and it is my Playstation Satellite. I also can use the DVD drive again (curse you ChromeOS Flex), and might try other retro games, but with only 240GB SSD right now just sticking with those two systems. Eventually, might go the route of external harddrive for the games, but haven't gotten around to that yet or bought an external HDD.
I just installed bazzite on my SER5 MAX nvme, keeping Batocera on the sata ssd. So far so good. Added benefit of having both drives in is that, both being linux, I can access the ROMS from the batocera share partition should I want to run emulation / emu-deck-ish things on the bazzite side. I also made sure to up the VRAM in bios from default (16gb ram set to 4gb vram, 32gb set to 8gb vram). Amazing versatility in a tiny footprint.
I daily drive nixos, and I enabled steam and one day I noticed when I switched to a different desktop environment there was a whole steam DE. I thought it was really cool.
I had no idea this was possible, I thought gaming pc's had to have those massive graphics cards with 20 fans to be able to run anything. Thanks Mr dweeb!
Minecraft (java, which is the valid one anyways) was the 2nd game I got working on Steam deck (I was a pre order recipient). I bought it after Microsoft owned it, so I only have a microsoft login to play it, not a mojang. Search for youtube guides, it's not bad to get going. I did not try modded minecraft, and have no idea if that changes things.
With the rise of steam decks I’m surprised there isn’t any off the shelf options for one of these, what is stopping steam from creating one and entering the console war?
I tried and somewhat failed at doing this. I think I know how I wanna do it next time but I need to convince myself to spend the money... again. Great video
still got "emulation station" on my windows 11 mini pc with an AMD Ryzen 9, 6900HX with a built in AMD Radeon 680M and 32GB RAM running... that thing also emulates everything fine especially with the 8bitdo SN30 Pro Bluetooth Gamepad .....and i still can do my Video editing, Music Making, Photography Editing etc with it or play my games directly in steam or other games with stand-alone launcher.
Ahead of the curve, TechDweeb! I do think this is Valve's long-term vision for SteamOS, and that handhelds are merely the way to get things started. How does Bazzite compare to rival distros like ChimeraOS? It looks pretty solid. If these gaming distros keep maturing, they might actually be better choices for power users because you can presumably make changes to the underlying OS (and install more software) in ways that SteamOS's immutable file system stops you doing.
you could always just stream the games that the minipc cant run, but your main system CAN run - they may have stopped selling the steamlink and the steam machine, but theyre still constantly improving the streaming functionality
2:00 I have one. It's still kicking but it is not great. The recent Nvidia open source fixes make it pretty decent... now. But it was very rough for the last couple years with it on chimera and bazzite. Batocera and Nobara have been good with it. I would love a modern revisit of the steam machine!
The Steam Deck can run minecraft just fine. The java version has a mod that adds controller support and the Google Play Store version has controller support right out of the box! Doesn´t mean you HAVE to play it. Unless?
The steam deck’s greatest strength is also its greatest weakness - closed ecosystem. Eventually, a handheld that supports as many storefronts as you want will take the crown.
But it doesn't have a closed ecosystem? It's just a PC. You can install whatever you want on it. Do other storefronts support Linux? Nope, but that's hardly Steam Deck's fault :D Valve is the one who keeps pushing Linux gaming hard, and helped it become a lot more tenable than it was fifteen years ago.
use sunshine/moonlight i do this to a trigkey rzyen minipc in my living room and it works amazing, even over wifi to my gmk mini in my garage outside .
Would be good if the HTPC image is decoupled from Steam. We need a gamescope that does not always require a Steam account. Then it could serve as both a Steam machine as well as Kodi/ LibreELEC one.
It's a very neat thing to do! Every time I do something like this I always want to actually use it to game, which is me giving myself permission to stop working and actually play some games for a change!
If you look back in time Valve had the steamdeck planned years ago , let's look at the facts (not necessarily in order as my memory fails me lol) 1 big picture mode in steam 2 steam os betas 3 steam controllers 4 steam machines 5 probably more I've missed Steam deck was coming years ago if you follow the breadcrumbs
I freakin just did something similar! Over the last 2 days on an old chromebox asus CN62 with i7 that was retired from some random company. (Mrchrome chromebox helped me flash a new bios uefi)-- i wanted to see how it'd do first and the original 16gb ssd is useless so i have Bazzite booting on an SD card while waiting for the odd 2242 size 256gb ssd to come in. It's operatable for some weak things as is but i can see it being a decent emulation system for the TV so i don't have to share my ROG Ally with the household.
Nope. Raspberry Pi is ARM-based, Bazzite requires x86-64. It simply will not work. Sorry. Even if the architecture WAS supported, only the Pi 5 would actually have enough computing power, being about 10% slower than an N100 in sysbench (a simple Linux benchmark). All of the previous Pi models are way slower than that. For reference, an intel N100 (which is a 12th gen mobile chip, and TechDweeb's "low end" recommendation) has roughly the same performance level as a 4th-7th gen i5. Honestly this is the lowest spec anyone should go for with something like this. You don't necessarily need a fancy new mini-PC like Mr. Dweeb used. There's plenty of cheap ex-office PCs (HP, Dell, Lenovo) flooding the used market that fit the bill for the "low end" if you don't want to "splurge" on an N100 box. Try to get at least an i5, if not an i7. What might hold you back with those would be video performance (intel integrated graphics kinda suck). If you can slot a dedicated GPU (even a small one like an RX 550 or GT 1030), things get better, but an AMD GPU is recommended if you want the "Home Theater" SteamDeck-like experience with Bazzite, as the "HTPC" build's GameScope has problems with the NVIDIA drivers (you can still use the "Desktop" build if you have NVIDIA). And by the time you get a GPU in there, you've probably spent as much or more than what you would have spent on the N100. But you might be able to run with higher settings than on an N100. I have a 4th gen i5 with a GTX 1050 4GB and can run a lot of games at pretty reasonable settings. Not the newest stuff of course, but older/indie games run great. Like Skyrim SE and Saint's Row the Third on 1080p Ultra. RedOut on 720p medium (RedOut 2 is a bit too much). I'm not using Bazzite (yet) but rather the gaming edition (don't make me type its actual name) of Garuda Linux. I might switch, I might not. I'll definitely try it out. That's the beauty of Linux; unlike Windows and MacOS, we're spoiled for choice.
This would be a nice mini PC. Amazon has the GEEKOM A8 AI Mini PC, AMD Ryzen 9 8945HS for less but almost exactly the same performance as the A7 (for a limited time). I wish AMD would come up with a better naming/coding system for their processors and not confuse the heck out of people trying to compare them all. Their numbering system makes no sense! 😁😁
I love SteamOS and Bazzite as an alternative. Even though I'm not 12, I still need windows for anti-cheat games (fortnite and Minecraft aren't even on my radar). Not to mention the amount of extra space Linux-based gaming needs for Windows-based games due to the shaders and proton. Linux written games are perfectly fine, it's just a shame more developers and game companies don't support Linux (hence the need for the extra required space not needed on Windows).
back when valve introduced the whole steambox craze over a decade ago, i already had a bunch of MiniPC's laying around to test that out (alongside the steambox they introduced big picture mode into Steam) the biggest issue with all of those MiniPC's back then was that because they are all designed and built around laptop hardware the performance was always trash. i ended up giving up on this and just turned my custom built steambox into a plex server lol. laptop hardware these days seems very competent, but i think a better hardware solution today would be to build a custom mini-ITX mid range-high end gaming pc for use as a genuine steambox. some of those mini-ITX pc cases try to resemble a look of a horizontal console so they would fit perfectly for this! but that would kind of defeat the purpose since a PS5 can be bought nowadays for around 300-400$US and would most likely perform a lot better than a 800-1000$ gaming pc that's installed inside of a tiny case with restricted airflow and many limitations you would have to forgo to avoid overheating the components inside.
I wanna buy a Mini pc and use it for work office, web browsing and also using it as streaming pc(use it for twitch), i have another for the games, which mini pc do you suggest?
Hey Tech! Is this the smoothest OS for making a steam machine??? I want to make a steam console for the living room, and I don’t know which OS to go with for the project.
Both are great, not much difference between them in the big picture. I went with Bazzite because I just did a Bazzite on the Rog Ally X video and wanted to try it on a Mini PC. I don't think there's many features that aren't in both so I think it mostly comes down to the install experience, the frequency of updates, and the desktop environment they've customized.
Is this more powerfull than a rog Ally? I feel like I could buy an open box Ally for 400's and do the same, just leave it at 30w all the time, but will the perfomance be the same or worst in the Ally? 🤨🤨🤨
It's not going to be leagues better, but it will definitely be faster. These mini pcs can typically draw somewhere around the 65w mark, and if you get one of the 32gb ram options you will obviously also have twice the ram available (so you can dedicate 8gb for vram and not be left with 8gb for system memory). That being said the ally's ram will run at a faster speed... but the 35w extra you can supply to the apu will more than make up for that.
@TechDweeb Actually... I think you may want to postpone the OS project aaaaand do a Gameboy game with Gameboy Studio instead!!!! I've just started doing so myself (while doing other games with Godot, Pixel game maker MV, Rpg Maker XP, and trying Pico 8 game maker aaaaand tipping my toes in tic-80... [and honorable mention to rpg paper maker... {and there are others, but the list would be long}]) Anyways, you might get hooked a little bit. I thought, "Hey, maybe... just maybe you'd make your own Dweeb Corps game, a Zazz Bros or Legend of Dweezil Dazzle or something a like, OR make a video special about game makers..." 👾🟥🟧🟫⬛🟪 var pixilated greetings += true
just wanted to throw this out since Minecraft was mentioned as a game that needs windows: its totally fine on the Deck, and Linux in general. bedrock version is not playable yes, but java is fully accessible and runs great with something like Prism Launcher.
bedrock IS playable, but it's by playing the Android version ported to Linux. works more or less, but starting it is a bit clunky.
@@tray84 excellent point! i kinda forgot because the distro im using dosent have the right drivers and such for waydroid (i could probably get it working but dont want to put in the time lol)
You don't need way droid you can just use the unofficial bedrock launcher for Linux. it's available as an app image so it should work on any distro.
@@donotdew the unofficial bedrock launcher is on the Linux app stores (like discover or snap) and it is the Android version so you can't have raytracing even with nvidia
even the vanilla launcher is fully compatible with linux
I did this recently with my Beelink SER6 Pro with a 680M that I had lying around. It's great and I can play most games at 1080p 30fps. Completed Lies of P on it. Very playable!
What preset? Medium, low, super low?
What preset did you have for lies of P
@@xpmon Pretty sure it was low settings, but still looked great.
I'm picking up an SER6 as well, since they're currently discounted (for black friday i assume). I plan on adding another drive and loading some steamos fork on it. likely bazzite right now.
Ever since becoming a tinkerer I must say it’s very satisfying. Sure I could just run it all on my main rig but I do really find it fun to get these marvelous games running on lower spec hardware (handhelds etc). We’ve come a loooooong way and I really love what amd has been up to lately. Thanks techie ❤
It's just insane to me how affordable Steam Decks are. They have a touch-screen, battery, controllers... and they're still cheaper than your mid-range minipc selection. A refurbished Steam Deck at $279 is just an insane value. I really wish we could get the Steam Console that's the same thing as a Steam Deck 64... but without the touch-screen, battery, or controllers... and then hopefully a reduced price. That would be bonkers.
That's because Valve is selling them below cost, recouping the money through game sales, where other shops can't afford to do that.
You can't buy outside US or Europe/Asia tho
@@gmitchell_tc It's stupid, but it's what most consoles have done for a long time now. The main difference is that Steam games don't cost twice the cost of "PC games" :D
I wonder how true it is for the Steam Deck, though. Can Valve really recoup the costs through game sales? Especially given that most people probably already have those games on their account anyway, since they run on a normal PC too? :D
@@LuaanTi i've heard lots of people say they buy more games now that they have a steam deck and can find the time to play more small games
@@LuaanTi From all the interviews they've given it seems more like Valve just wanted an affordable, comfortable and versatile PC handheld to exist, because they themselves wanted to play their games on one. Valve is special in that they don't have shareholders and they can do whatever they want even if it's not profitable
It also seems to be a long-term strategy of making Linux gaming viable since Valve has been worried about Microsoft potentially locking down Windows
do you even sleep?
I love TechDweeb, but I worry that he's going to kill his health like COOP772.
Actually I just had a nice 3 days off in a row because I had friends from Japan stop in on their Canada visit. Felt like it recharged my batteries nicely!
@@TechDweebIm glad you've had a nice time!! I wouldn't know what to do if you stopped making videos!
@@TechDweeb heck yeah, love to hear that ❤
He probably stimulated with so many games, and like many people he’s just trying to level up in his Life! Good for him!
0:53 Minecraft java is fully compatible with the steam deck. And in fact, it runs way better because of its linux kernel. Minecraft bedrock can be enjoyed using an unofficial launcher(using google play store version).
Yes, Minecraft is not available through steam. But can be downloaded and installed whilst in desktop mode. And added as a non steam game.
I understand if you’re bored of the single player vanilla gameplay. But there are so many mods for Minecraft, notable ones being: Create, Valkrian skyes, realistic physics mod, terralift, shaders. And not to mention multiplayer.
Minecraft is not a kids game. It’s a game for people that have creativity. That mostly happens to be children. But there are plenty of older people that still have that.
Minecraft is a kids game.
@@nunyabidnes6010 minecraft jenny mod
@@nunyabidnes6010 wow you're so big and grown up and mature because you don't have fun with those silly blocky kids games and only play big boy games
@@nunyabidnes6010 call of duty is a kids game. minecraft (like pokemon) is for autistic 20-30yo
You are going to have to build an upstairs to your basement to hold all your mini PCs and handhelds. Poor guy.
Or a basement to my basement!
@@TechDweeb a dungeon?
@@DstinctDweebDungeon has a nice ring to it too...
Dude ram compatibility is a CRAZY rabbit hole. It takes a TON of work to keep this kind of stuff from happening. I am sorry you ran into trouble.
Luckily I had a good smart dweeb to help me figure it out!
Wow. I happened to put this video on in the background *while* I was swapping rom around on mini pcs to try and figure out why I can't get this crucial ram to work in another system. Same processor, but the minisforum um790. Incredible luck. I guess I need to order more ram! This same set of sticks was unstable in a Beelink Ser6 Max, but not failing any testing I could find.
Happy to see you try this out. Been a full time Bazzite user since late April, early May. Bazzite is one of the few OS that I can both just play all my games on Linux and have a decent desktop experience. Have it on my large tower of a desktop.
Also, love watching the videos. I was anxious an hour ago. Something I heard set me off. Video helped me calm down. Feel like I am hanging out in your room watching your videos which is nice. Hope you have a nice day.
same! been using for the same amount of time and put on my deck, main pc, and made a custom console with a pc using old parts in my living room. I don't even use my main pc because of the other two anymore
@@tray84 How is Bazzite on a Steam Deck? I personally never used or ever touched a Steam Deck until yesterday ironically.
My brother's buddy wanted to share some game keys he got from a humble bundle which was nice and I only could give a chromecast to them.
Anywho, he had a Steam Deck and wanted me to use it cause my brother told him about how I was fully into the Linux's Gamescope Sessions that is the Steam Deck from Chimera OS I tested last year.
Sorry for the long ramble. Just wanna know how Bazzite is on the deck. Not that I wanna switch from using a larger desktop. I am just interested what the difference would be from Steam OS.
@@grizzlyindustries7593I have it installed on my deck. From a functionality standpoint it appears to be identical with some added benefits. I haven't noticed anything missing yet. The big differences are all in the background. Steamos is a custom immutable version of arch, while bazzite is based on an immutable branch of fedora, though the way it's set up bazzite technically takes the win here since with the stock steamos, if you unlock the root file system and make changes or install anything in that manner, it'll just get wiped the next time steamos updates, bazzite has a way to maintain immutability while also not wiping things that you install. Bazzite also gives you the option to quickly install a bunch of the things people tend to run on stock steamos, right on first boot. I didn't like it's stability a year ago and reverted back to steamos at the time, but I reinstalled it on my deck a couple weeks ago and have been liking it a lot.
love your setup bro
I ordered a mini PC today pacifically to turn it into a Steam OS console. Great minds amirite
Good you didn't order it angerily
1:14 fun fact: SteamOS is Arch. You can access a desktop and install MC from there and then add it to Steam
Thanks for the tutorial. It gave me the push I needed to set up my own.
Loads of mini PCs available, with specs that surpass that of the steam deck. For quite a bit less.
Now I've basically got a clone of my steam deck, that's permanently set up where I'd previously have to dock my steam deck.
I've got both the steam deck and mini pc set up to clover dual boot; windows, steam os/bazzite (sharing 1tb each of a 2tb ssd), and batocera (swapping a loaded out 2tb micro sd, between the two computers).
If you're not too concerned about high fps and maxed out settings, on a huge screen. It's a cost effective solution to get the steam deck experience, where you'd usually play console or pc.
Do you have any examples of mini pcs that are less expensive than but have better performance than the steam deck??? I got a Steam Deck but returned it for a PS5 because I wanted to catch up on all of the AAA Sony exclusives from the last couple years. Would love to have a Steam machine to hookup to the tv for indie titles, but couldn't justify the cost of the SD OLED
@gdenn7766 any mini pc with =\>16gb ram, and an apu equivalent to a 4450U. Will match the steam decks performance, as a steam machine using bazzite.
If you search for a mini pc with those specs, you'll find a few examples quite a bit cheaper than the steam deck. Which would be more than sufficient for a retro setup on a TV.
But if it was me, I would step the specs up a bit. For example, a mini pc with a 7840u (such as the tiny minisforum em780) may cost a bit more than a standard steam deck. But will out perform it, as a bazzite steam machine.
You could compromise a little, to get the cost down. But still out perform the steam deck. searching for a mini pc with a 7840HS (the gmktec k6, for example. Costs quite a bit less than a steam deck).
Obviously. A super cheap sff pc, with dedicated amd gpu (as old/low as an rx 550), would outperform the steam deck, on bazzite. But looses the extremely small form factor of a mini pc.
I'm guessing that you're after a tiny form factor. Or I'd be suggesting a cheap, older gen itx build. Or splashing out on a decent processor board such as the minisforum bd790i, to put in a cheap tiny itx case (as this would allow future upgrade with any amd gpu of your choosing, to become a very capable pc/bazzite steam machine. If you ever so wished).
Since making this comment. I have actually come to another solution, that suited my requirements better.
Wanting a more seamless transition between handheld and lounge TV gaming. I've made my steam deck dock, similar to a Nintendo switch. With gpu acceleration while docked. So I don't have to have multiple devices set up.
The way I did it is quite convoluted, as I wanted to keep the usb port at the top of the deck free. So had to mess around with a m.2 to pcie adapter, into a pcie to dual m.2 adaptor. So that storage can go in one m.2 slot, and an m.2 to oculink port in the other. Which docks into a tiny case, housing a gpu (an rx 6600 I had available) and power supply.
But a cheaper and easier option. Would be to simply replace the steam deck storage with a m.2 to oculink port (this requires cutting a small notch in the backplate of the Steam Deck, on the most central air intake vent, to allow the oculink port to be accessible). And use a USB m.2 dongle, with power passthrough, for your storage (such as the qwiizlab). Which sticks to the back of the deck with a magnet, while still allowing charging.
Then you can use the steam deck as a normal handheld. Then plug it into any amd gpu and power supply setup, via oculink. Boot into windows steam big picture mode (steam os doesn't current support an external gpu). And play gpu accelerated gaming on a TV.
Using clover to boot between the windows and steam os partitions on my 2tb m.2, simply worked, when switching it to the USB dongle (without any reinstall or boot partition shenanigans). And left the sd slot free to keep my batocera setup untouched (which works great docked also).
Etaprime have a good video on setting this up. The only difference is using the m.2 to usb for storage, so I could just switch over my existing m.2 drive, and keep my sd free for batocera.
It was a fun, and relatively cheap bit of tinkering. That has resulted in a very convenient setup, to have decent handheld and console like gaming, on a single device.
@swordofomens5202 bro. This is incredible. Thanks so much for the write up. Most of it is total gibberish to me, but I love the ideas!
I don’t really care too much about form factor and size, I’ll have the device plugged into my tv so I wouldn’t even mind a tower sitting on the floor next to the tv console. But I just don’t have the time, energy, or knowledge to research and source parts, so buying a prebuilt mini pc seemed like the cheapest, easiest solution. If the rumored Steam Console releases with a price/power ratio better than the PS5 slim at $380, I’ll buy it in a heartbeat and sell the PS5. So I’m kind of just looking for something to keep me in the Steam ecosystem until then.
The only things I wanted the PS5 for was to play Spider-Man, Helldivers, and Horizon in high quality. I put over 50 hours into Helldivers 2 on the Steam Deck, at the lowest quality, in 30fps before I just couldn’t take it anymore. But man I loved the Deck for older stuff and Steam-only games.
Do you think the old itx build you mentioned could be done off Amazon and for cheaper than the OLED Steam Deck at $550? I’d be willing to get a few major parts off eBay if I knew exactly what part to look for and how much to pay for a “good deal”
@@gdenn7766sorry pal. I sent a detailed reply. But it was removed twice (no idea why, or what content could have caused it).
Because of your videos on Brazzite, I am seriously considering doing this to create myself a console for my TV. For handheld gaming I have my Switch and for the few heavy titles I run I have my (work, ahem) pc. This is awesome!
Minecraft runs actually very well on the Steam Deck.
The dad puns on this video is on a whole new level, just like your mom... baking me cookies, of course!
Steam deck-type specs on a mini PC with more WALL power pumped into the APU/GPU is underrated. Consoles might not make sense anymore at u their price point. I was hoping this wouldn’t catch on while i hoarded all the mini PC units :3
Cat’s out the bag now!
Im playing tekken 8 60fps for far less than a ps5. What a time to be alive
With how powerful the integrated graphics are getting, mini PCs are probably the future of desktop PCs for majority of people
Omg its Pokey!!!
Thanks for reminding me of him!
Bud, I can handle you dissing Fortnite & Taylor Swift but don't come for Minecraft... especially since you CAN play it on steam OS
I flashed an old Toshiba Satellite laptop with Linux Mint 22 with Cinnamon, and it was able to handle PSX, and PSP so far from testing, and it is my Playstation Satellite. I also can use the DVD drive again (curse you ChromeOS Flex), and might try other retro games, but with only 240GB SSD right now just sticking with those two systems. Eventually, might go the route of external harddrive for the games, but haven't gotten around to that yet or bought an external HDD.
Great video! Fun project that I'm starting this weekend.
Keep these badass videos coming Mr. TechDweeb!!
Will do!
Thanks for the demo and info, This is awesome. Have a great day
I uh, like this a lot. Thank you Mr Dweeb.
Some love for mini PC's yey
You shouted out Iceberg Tech, man is VERY underrated
Love this viedeo, made me realize I'm a cool person
👏
Thank. I agree that I’m cool.
I just installed bazzite on my SER5 MAX nvme, keeping Batocera on the sata ssd. So far so good. Added benefit of having both drives in is that, both being linux, I can access the ROMS from the batocera share partition should I want to run emulation / emu-deck-ish things on the bazzite side. I also made sure to up the VRAM in bios from default (16gb ram set to 4gb vram, 32gb set to 8gb vram). Amazing versatility in a tiny footprint.
Nice, man!
i literally just put bazzite on my desktop like right now
So freaking cool!!!!
It's possible to play Minecraft Java on it though, which is the definitive version.
I've been pausing videos to read the messages since the days when I recorded The Simpsons on VHS
"cats can't eat cereal" the most important mental note!
More for me!
I dunno man, the Retro Game Core theft plan was preeeeeeetty great
homey put the "mental" in mental notes
@@TechDweebwait.What kind of cereal are we talking about ?
When why do people feed their cats, cat branded cereal? Even supposed to put water in their dry food 🤔🤔🤔
I just did that on a UM690S, and I installed a recalbox OS on another drive. One boot for retro, one for modern arcade, with two arcade sticks.
I love the Nintendo Pro controller, but I was getting half-presses on my sticks for some reason
I run Bazzite on my mini PC which has the weakest Ryzen processor you get and I still have a great time with it. It's a great low spec machine.
I daily drive nixos, and I enabled steam and one day I noticed when I switched to a different desktop environment there was a whole steam DE. I thought it was really cool.
I just have to say that the perfect screen for this little machines steamed is a portable monitor of 17" with a 1600*900 resolution.
gigglebytes
Sigma Dweeb needs to be a recurring guest now
I see you have humble choice too bro! xD
Doesn't everyone?
@@TechDweeb smart guys have it....
i not long installed Bazzite on my Minusforum em780 mini PC. its been a pretty good way to consolise the mini pc
A good dweeb doesn’t forget his mom’s birthday!
Cool video, as always 😃
Okay your mom joke made me fall off my exercise ball at the gym. 😂
I had no idea this was possible, I thought gaming pc's had to have those massive graphics cards with 20 fans to be able to run anything. Thanks Mr dweeb!
Minecraft (java, which is the valid one anyways) was the 2nd game I got working on Steam deck (I was a pre order recipient). I bought it after Microsoft owned it, so I only have a microsoft login to play it, not a mojang. Search for youtube guides, it's not bad to get going. I did not try modded minecraft, and have no idea if that changes things.
but moooom, I'm already subscribed!
ima join the channel as soon as i get some moola!!
With the rise of steam decks I’m surprised there isn’t any off the shelf options for one of these, what is stopping steam from creating one and entering the console war?
I tried and somewhat failed at doing this. I think I know how I wanna do it next time but I need to convince myself to spend the money... again. Great video
Techdweeb is my smart homie what up my brotha
Did you try Lutris or Heroic Games Launcher for the non steam games?
still got "emulation station" on my windows 11 mini pc with an AMD Ryzen 9, 6900HX with a built in AMD Radeon 680M and 32GB RAM running... that thing also emulates everything fine especially with the 8bitdo SN30 Pro Bluetooth Gamepad .....and i still can do my Video editing, Music Making, Photography Editing etc with it or play my games directly in steam or other games with stand-alone launcher.
Sounds like a good setup! Which Mini PC is that?
@@TechDweeb AceMagican AM08 Pro .. The highest model which got further diy upgrades like faster and bigger storage etc.
Ahead of the curve, TechDweeb! I do think this is Valve's long-term vision for SteamOS, and that handhelds are merely the way to get things started.
How does Bazzite compare to rival distros like ChimeraOS? It looks pretty solid. If these gaming distros keep maturing, they might actually be better choices for power users because you can presumably make changes to the underlying OS (and install more software) in ways that SteamOS's immutable file system stops you doing.
you could always just stream the games that the minipc cant run, but your main system CAN run - they may have stopped selling the steamlink and the steam machine, but theyre still constantly improving the streaming functionality
2:00 I have one. It's still kicking but it is not great. The recent Nvidia open source fixes make it pretty decent... now. But it was very rough for the last couple years with it on chimera and bazzite. Batocera and Nobara have been good with it.
I would love a modern revisit of the steam machine!
"Giggle" bytes made me giggle
i love steamos i just use big picture mode on steam with my tv and its great
>Bot vice
a real chad gamer here.
i bet your channel is a fun project
The Steam Deck can run minecraft just fine. The java version has a mod that adds controller support and the Google Play Store version has controller support right out of the box! Doesn´t mean you HAVE to play it.
Unless?
1:00 "But if you're not 11 years old and you don't care about Fortnite or Taylor Swift or Minecraft" ROASTED 🤣
I have Bazzite on my Morefine S500+ w/ 7940HS. It's great
The steam deck’s greatest strength is also its greatest weakness - closed ecosystem. Eventually, a handheld that supports as many storefronts as you want will take the crown.
Bazzite lets you add lutris and emulators and all that to it so you can play it all
But it doesn't have a closed ecosystem? It's just a PC. You can install whatever you want on it. Do other storefronts support Linux? Nope, but that's hardly Steam Deck's fault :D Valve is the one who keeps pushing Linux gaming hard, and helped it become a lot more tenable than it was fifteen years ago.
What about ChimeraOs?
I would love to see this with the ayaneo mini
Would this work for using steam remote play? Just wanna stream from my gaming pc to my living room tv.
use sunshine/moonlight
i do this to a trigkey rzyen minipc in my living room and it works amazing, even over wifi to my gmk mini in my garage outside .
@jaywarren3505 thanks for your response, I will look into it and give it a try
Would be good if the HTPC image is decoupled from Steam. We need a gamescope that does not always require a Steam account. Then it could serve as both a Steam machine as well as Kodi/ LibreELEC one.
I want to do this nowww. I don't have a spare mini pc, though. XD
It's a very neat thing to do! Every time I do something like this I always want to actually use it to game, which is me giving myself permission to stop working and actually play some games for a change!
Funny that you released this just when Valve added some windows drivers to their support page 😆
Haha yup. I'll be doing a video on that soon too!
If you look back in time Valve had the steamdeck planned years ago , let's look at the facts (not necessarily in order as my memory fails me lol)
1 big picture mode in steam
2 steam os betas
3 steam controllers
4 steam machines
5 probably more I've missed
Steam deck was coming years ago if you follow the breadcrumbs
I freakin just did something similar! Over the last 2 days on an old chromebox asus CN62 with i7 that was retired from some random company. (Mrchrome chromebox helped me flash a new bios uefi)-- i wanted to see how it'd do first and the original 16gb ssd is useless so i have Bazzite booting on an SD card while waiting for the odd 2242 size 256gb ssd to come in. It's operatable for some weak things as is but i can see it being a decent emulation system for the TV so i don't have to share my ROG Ally with the household.
Steam deck with the Tech King
Cant u have both steam and windows? Confused
What is that game at 00:42 seconds??
If I keep touching it anyway will I go blind?
It would be interesting to see if Bazzite would run on a raspberry pi.
Nope. Raspberry Pi is ARM-based, Bazzite requires x86-64. It simply will not work. Sorry.
Even if the architecture WAS supported, only the Pi 5 would actually have enough computing power, being about 10% slower than an N100 in sysbench (a simple Linux benchmark). All of the previous Pi models are way slower than that.
For reference, an intel N100 (which is a 12th gen mobile chip, and TechDweeb's "low end" recommendation) has roughly the same performance level as a 4th-7th gen i5. Honestly this is the lowest spec anyone should go for with something like this.
You don't necessarily need a fancy new mini-PC like Mr. Dweeb used. There's plenty of cheap ex-office PCs (HP, Dell, Lenovo) flooding the used market that fit the bill for the "low end" if you don't want to "splurge" on an N100 box. Try to get at least an i5, if not an i7. What might hold you back with those would be video performance (intel integrated graphics kinda suck). If you can slot a dedicated GPU (even a small one like an RX 550 or GT 1030), things get better, but an AMD GPU is recommended if you want the "Home Theater" SteamDeck-like experience with Bazzite, as the "HTPC" build's GameScope has problems with the NVIDIA drivers (you can still use the "Desktop" build if you have NVIDIA). And by the time you get a GPU in there, you've probably spent as much or more than what you would have spent on the N100. But you might be able to run with higher settings than on an N100. I have a 4th gen i5 with a GTX 1050 4GB and can run a lot of games at pretty reasonable settings. Not the newest stuff of course, but older/indie games run great. Like Skyrim SE and Saint's Row the Third on 1080p Ultra. RedOut on 720p medium (RedOut 2 is a bit too much). I'm not using Bazzite (yet) but rather the gaming edition (don't make me type its actual name) of Garuda Linux. I might switch, I might not. I'll definitely try it out. That's the beauty of Linux; unlike Windows and MacOS, we're spoiled for choice.
I'm not sure if I miss it, but why not SteamOS?
This would be a nice mini PC. Amazon has the GEEKOM A8 AI Mini PC, AMD Ryzen 9 8945HS for less but almost exactly the same performance as the A7 (for a limited time). I wish AMD would come up with a better naming/coding system for their processors and not confuse the heck out of people trying to compare them all. Their numbering system makes no sense! 😁😁
What game is it in 0:43?
Came here to find this
Delver! :)
@@maxx00smit oh thanks
Hey Tech, can you do a Review on Blackhawk X16?. I to know I should buy one or not.
Is an "emulation drive" possible with bazzite? Like the emulation drive you posted last week I think.
Nope. Those are made to run on Windows. You'd want a dual-boot setup if you wanted Steam OS and a pre-made emulation drive.
I installed ChimeraOS on my mini PC, are there any benefits to Bazzite over ChimeraOS?
Probably not. Stick with Chimera.
I love SteamOS and Bazzite as an alternative. Even though I'm not 12, I still need windows for anti-cheat games (fortnite and Minecraft aren't even on my radar). Not to mention the amount of extra space Linux-based gaming needs for Windows-based games due to the shaders and proton. Linux written games are perfectly fine, it's just a shame more developers and game companies don't support Linux (hence the need for the extra required space not needed on Windows).
i ditched windows on my main pc for linux ages ago and i must say no regrets
0:54 yes you can play minecraft on steam deck using a app called prism launcher
Good video. Value needs to hurry up and officially release the steam os.
back when valve introduced the whole steambox craze over a decade ago, i already had a bunch of MiniPC's laying around to test that out (alongside the steambox they introduced big picture mode into Steam)
the biggest issue with all of those MiniPC's back then was that because they are all designed and built around laptop hardware the performance was always trash.
i ended up giving up on this and just turned my custom built steambox into a plex server lol.
laptop hardware these days seems very competent, but i think a better hardware solution today would be to build a custom mini-ITX mid range-high end gaming pc for use as a genuine steambox.
some of those mini-ITX pc cases try to resemble a look of a horizontal console so they would fit perfectly for this!
but that would kind of defeat the purpose since a PS5 can be bought nowadays for around 300-400$US and would most likely perform a lot better than a 800-1000$ gaming pc that's installed inside of a tiny case with restricted airflow and many limitations you would have to forgo to avoid overheating the components inside.
now for a custom loop! :D
I wanna buy a Mini pc and use it for work office, web browsing and also using it as streaming pc(use it for twitch), i have another for the games, which mini pc do you suggest?
I'd personally probably go with something cheap with an N100 and 16gb of ram. Something like this amzn.to/4cxtltM
Hey Tech! Is this the smoothest OS for making a steam machine??? I want to make a steam console for the living room, and I don’t know which OS to go with for the project.
Yup. This is the one.
What game is this @00:43, looks like minecraft but it's not?
Delver
Why Bazzite over ChimeraOS?
Both are great, not much difference between them in the big picture. I went with Bazzite because I just did a Bazzite on the Rog Ally X video and wanted to try it on a Mini PC. I don't think there's many features that aren't in both so I think it mostly comes down to the install experience, the frequency of updates, and the desktop environment they've customized.
ohhh nice, where can i get one of those stickers ???
Is this more powerfull than a rog Ally? I feel like I could buy an open box Ally for 400's and do the same, just leave it at 30w all the time, but will the perfomance be the same or worst in the Ally? 🤨🤨🤨
It's not going to be leagues better, but it will definitely be faster. These mini pcs can typically draw somewhere around the 65w mark, and if you get one of the 32gb ram options you will obviously also have twice the ram available (so you can dedicate 8gb for vram and not be left with 8gb for system memory). That being said the ally's ram will run at a faster speed... but the 35w extra you can supply to the apu will more than make up for that.
maybe a random question but can u send a link in the reply for the shirt?
When are you going to make your own OS called the Zazzite?
Amazing idea! Now I just need to learn how to program and distribute a linux distro. How hard could it be?
@@TechDweeb All I know is type sudo in the Linux terminal... sudo zapp updazzle... ⌨️📺🤖
@TechDweeb Actually... I think you may want to postpone the OS project aaaaand do a Gameboy game with Gameboy Studio instead!!!! I've just started doing so myself (while doing other games with Godot, Pixel game maker MV, Rpg Maker XP, and trying Pico 8 game maker aaaaand tipping my toes in tic-80... [and honorable mention to rpg paper maker... {and there are others, but the list would be long}])
Anyways, you might get hooked a little bit. I thought, "Hey, maybe... just maybe you'd make your own Dweeb Corps game, a Zazz Bros or Legend of Dweezil Dazzle or something a like, OR make a video special about game makers..."
👾🟥🟧🟫⬛🟪 var pixilated greetings += true
@TechDweeb Hey, how about postponing the OS project, and do a Gameboy game with Gameboy studio instead? 👾🟪🟧🟥🟫
Would i be able to play oblivion with mods on the midrange option you put in the description?